In Roskosmos spoke about the new deadlines for the creation of a space tug with a nuclear power plant

The system for tracking dangerous objects in near-Earth space will now be called the Milky Way. This was announced by the first deputy head of the state corporation "Roskosmos" Yuri Urlichich during the conference "Royal Readings", held in Moscow.

He presented to the audience a presentation telling about the improvement of the warning system about dangerous situations in near-Earth space. Now she is tracking space debris. In the future, the system will be replenished with four new satellites, two of which will monitor near-Earth space, and two others - deep space.

Later, two more spacecraft will be added to them to change the trajectory of objects that may be dangerous to the Earth.

Subsequently, the system will be able to monitor potentially dangerous comets and asteroids.

In addition, Urlichich spoke about the work on the creation of a space tug with a nuclear engine, the commissioning of which is planned for 2030. The Keldysh Center makes a suitable nuclear power plant for him. They were going to complete the work in 2015, and the first tugboat flight to be carried out in 2018, but the timing, like many other projects, had to be shifted several times.

This is a unique spacecraft that will be able to change the trajectory of near-Earth space objects using not traditional (at the moment) fuel for this, but the energy of a kind of "nuclear battery". Such an apparatus causes both interest and fears in the West.

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[Vasily Ponomarev]

damn, I thought they’ll do the moon lift, otherwise it’s some kind of half measures

[Sergey39]

It is quite a realistic project that must be completed. Unlike all fiction like elevators.

[Starover_Z]

This is a unique spacecraft that will be able to change the trajectory of near-Earth space objects,

Such an apparatus causes both interest and fear in the West.

Well, yes, that's right - the enemy military spacecraft is also a GARBAGE for us!

[Shurik70]

And in which case it is possible and "suddenly out of order" with a fall into a specific area ... There will be enough radiation for a large city if you spray better

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Shurik70

And in which case it is possible and "suddenly out of order" with a fall into a specific area ... There will be enough radiation for a large city if you spray better

And in this case, we can recall how many nuclear bombs the Americans lost and how much they found!

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

And in which case it is possible and "suddenly out of order" with a fall into a specific area ... There will be enough radiation for a large city if you spray better

Yes, what are you? Original !!!
And it didn’t occur to you that judging by the number of emergency launches this satellite could well fall onto your house or neighboring garden.
What will you do then? Where to run and to whom to complain?

[ccsr]

Quote: Sergey39

It is quite a realistic project that must be completed.

Could you explain what will be used as a working fluid for organizing maneuvering with this apparatus? The fact that there will be a nuclear power plant is wonderful. But how energy will be converted into motion is of course an interesting question, especially if they plan to use the system for many years.

[Sergey39]

Usually the use of hydrogen is contemplated. In this case, there is no information. The network is full of information about this.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

how the received energy will be converted into motion

Maybe they will put PROPELLER !!!

[Blackmokona]

Not weak county for 15 years.

[Lontus]

for 2030?
why is everything in the space plans of the Russian Federation according to the scheme of hodge donkey emir?

[kit88]

Yes, because who will remember in 2035 about what was said and promised in the distant 2020? And most importantly, who will ask for this?
Do you remember what we were promised in 2005? Well, at least in 2013?
You are welcome. The same “Royal Readings” only in 2013:

Russia's space exploration program until 2020 was published by Roscosmos on January 14, 2013. In it, the study of the moon is called a priority area of ​​work. The program, however, involves the launch of not manned, but autonomous vehicles, such as the surface Luna-Glob-1 and the orbital Luna-Resource. The first of them should be laid down in 2015. Recently it became known that this device will lose half of the scientific equipment due to reliability considerations and production difficulties.

Also, the head of Roscosmos spoke about the nuclear missile-propulsion system being developed by the Keldysh Research Center. Her tests, according to Popovkin, should pass in 2018. ...

[ccsr]

Quote: kit88

Do you remember what we were promised in 2005? Well, at least in 2013?
You are welcome. The same “Royal Readings” only in 2013:

I think that this is not so sad compared to what other developers promised us:

"Epilogue
... The US refusal from a well-developed, reliable Saturn 5 carrier seemed incomprehensible. I think this was a mistake. The American astronautics historians I met with could not clearly explain why, contrary to previous plans, they had “buried” the excellent carrier Saturn-5.
In 1965, the United States organized work on forecasting the development of astronautics for the period up to 2001. The results of this forecast were summed up at a very representative symposium in March 1966 in Washington. In 1967, we got the opportunity to familiarize ourselves with the American plans for forecasting documents classified as “secret” or “for official use”, despite the fact that in the USA the reports at the symposium were published in an open publication. Most of our experts rated American forecasts as over-optimistic, but no one dared to call them absurd. The debate was mainly about the reality of timelines. We believed that even if we combine our forces with the US, a significant part of the forecasts can be made, but about five years later. And if without us, then we need to add another five years.
...In 1999 - 30 years after the first moon expedition landed - the Americans not only could not make any manned expedition to another planet out of the dozens predicted in 1966, but they were not even able to continue manned flights to the moon. At the end of the Cold War, during the decade of 1989-1999, the United States achieved its main strategic goal - the collapse of the Soviet Union and the neutralization or use of Russia's scientific and technological potential. Remaining for the time being the only superpower, the USA is in a hurry to first turn our planet and near-Earth space into a zone of American interests.
Instead of reanimating interplanetary flight programs, NASA jumped at the idea of ​​creating a large near-earth orbital station. The reason for this was the indisputable achievements of the Russians in this field. How and why we have overtaken the Americans in the creation of long-term orbital stations, I wrote above. "

Academician Chertok B.E.

[knn54]

Rogozin continues to "take revenge" for the removal from the post of Deputy Prime Minister.

[slipped]

Quote: Lontus

for 2030?

Everything as a whole is banal - for the launch of the tugboat, in its current reincarnation, an extra-heavy carrier is required, the launch of which is scheduled for the year 2027, after the construction of the third stage of the spaceport is completed. Now only the second stage is being built, under the carrier, the elements of which will be used in super-gravity.

And by 2030 at the Vostochny cosmodrome they will build an infrastructure for its (tug) maintenance. It requires a specialized MIC.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Quote: slipped

Everything as a whole is trite - for the launch of the tugboat, in its current reincarnation, an extra heavy carrier is required

And when did you set the initial dates, didn’t you know about it? And when the time comes for a new deadline, will it not turn out again that the one who appointed them also did not take into account something?

[slipped]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

And when did you set the initial dates, didn’t you know about it?

No, they did not know - the technology is at the peak of atomic science and is constantly changing. No one on Earth has done anything like this before. Scientists and designers from Arsenal and the Kurchatov Institute are constantly looking for new ways to implement this or that idea on the subject. From the nearest space experiments - the continuation of "Drops-2" - studies of hydrodynamics and heat transfer of monodisperse droplet flows in microgravity.

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

Clear. That is, in the 2030s, the same can be clarified. that again, something was not taken into account, and the implementation should be postponed for another XX years (or canceled due to discovered insurmountable difficulties).

There is nothing wrong with development without a guarantee of a positive result, but it would be more honest to speak about it in plain text, and not "our tug will fly in 2030".

[slipped]

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

Clear. That is, in the 2030s, the same can be clarified. that again, something was not taken into account, and the implementation should be postponed for another XX years (or canceled due to discovered insurmountable difficulties).

No "insurmountable difficulties" can be traced in this technology, and even more so nobody is going to "cancel" anything. Russia is a world leader in the creation of nuclear technologies, including in the space sector. The funding is stable, the elements are tested regularly, and the production process is scheduled step by step before the tug is launched, which guarantees a positive result in the end.

Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich

but it would be more honest to talk about this in plain text, and not "our tug will fly in 2030".

By 2030, an infrastructure for servicing a nuclear tug will be built at the Vostochny cosmodrome, which will allow it to be launched into space, is that more understandable? This is what was said at the "readings".

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

And a nuclear tugboat, and an elevator to the moon, but for some reason the doubt worm gnaws.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay

And a nuclear tugboat, and an elevator to the moon, but for some reason the doubt worm gnaws.

The ready name of the tug creation program: "Worm of doubt".

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

Sorry. The United States will fall apart by this time, and probably will not be able to appreciate the triumph of, so to speak, Russian space.

[Amateur]

will now be called the Milky Way

According to the results of the public vote held from December 4 to 23, 2015, in which 35 105 people took part, three finalists were determined: “Gagarin” - 10 389 votes, “Vector” - 4866 votes, “Federation” - 3604 votes, “Astra” - 1665 votes, “Galaxy” - 1489 votes, “Homeland” - 1315 votes, “World” - 1261 votes, “Zodiac” - 1199 votes, “Star” - 911 votes, “Leader” - 793 votes

It seems that the main work in Roscosmos is to come up with new names and rename everything that they cannot do. With a journalist at the head, this can only be achieved.

[anzar]

work on the creation of a space tug with a nuclear engine, the commissioning of which is scheduled for 2030ы. Keldysh Center ... Initially, they were going to complete the work in 2015 .... Such an apparatus is of both interest and concerns in the West.

Fears of what? What does Roskosmos not last for so long?

[rocket757]

Someone of course will wait ... that's just us, not young, the elixir of youth is not given. So pi pi pi ......

[Andrey.AN]

Who knows, if they decide to quickly clean up the market for putting into geostationary orbit, the tractor may be launched earlier. Nobody among the initiates will spread about the real possibilities, they will not be allowed to the "Royal Readings".

[rocket757]

Quote: Andrey.AN

How to know

I'm certainly not a fortuneteller professional and always say when I criticize something - I would be glad to make a mistake, but ..... the facts do not often refute my words, Sorry !!!

[Andrey.AN]

the point is, a great demand for a geostationary orbit may not be born in the Russian Federation, therefore, the Russian Chuyka may make mistakes more often, in this case.

[Andrey.AN]

Good, it would be necessary to provoke this demand, for example, to project its borders into this orbit.

[Oleg83]

First complete the spaceport, otherwise one talking room. One promised a lunar base, which had already been operational for several years.
And then Rogozin himself said that some objects were built with violations and cracks were found, now we need extra. defect financing

[Old Orc]

everything is correct and then ask for more money to eliminate defects on the eliminated defects

[KCA]

Judging by the "energy of a kind of" nuclear battery ", this is just an ion or plasma engine with RITEG, RITEGs have been flying for 60 years, engines on the ground have been tested, and in space, too, an ionic engine

[Kail.kail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDFi86cqLjs&t=1239s
Here in more detail ....

[astepanov]

RITEG as a power source for a powerful ion engine does not make sense: the efficiency is too low. In this case, we are talking about an ionic power with a capacity of one megawatt, the efficiency of thermocouple converters does not exceed 10%. So, we need an RTG with a thermal capacity of 10 MW. Where and how to remove 9 MW of heat?
The installation in question has a nuclear reactor with a thermal power in the region of 3–4 MW, a generator capacity of 1 MW, and 2–3 MW of heat must be utilized. Even in this case, the most difficult problem is not the engine or the reactor, but the radiator-emitter.

[KCA]

And show me, blindly, WHERE are we talking about the ionic in general and about the power of 1 MW? I am writing on the basis of an article where the power source is called a "nuclear battery", and the engine type is not indicated at all, perhaps you have your own data on this topic, I do not have them, I made an assumption.

[slipped]

Quote: KCA

and engine type is not specified at all

In 2022, an experimental plasma engine will be installed on the Progress MS for carrying out the Ostrovsky experiment on the TGK, in its autonomous flight. Iodine is assumed as the working medium of this engine.

The expected effect of the experiment is the possibility of putting into operation a new type of propulsion systems, which within 3-5 years may become the most widespread type of space propulsion systems.

[KCA]

Why should I google? I read everything, where in the ARTICLE is the type and power of the engine indicated?

[astepanov]

So I say that the article is disgusting. It is written unknown for what.

[Roman070280]

talked about new dates

How good it is when there is something to talk about ..

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Not that word! Otherwise, where then would the local contingent compete in wit?

[L-39NG]

I said, "tomorrow", so tomorrow I will do it. Etta what did I say? aha, tomorrow, you see, I said that yesterday? You see, I don't change my braces, I promise today, I will do "tomorrow"

[Victor March 47]

Quote: BlackMokona

Not weak county for 15 years.

Progressive and wealthy have not been built by armadillos for 90 years. So what? Are you in a hurry to be buried at Alpha Centauri?

[Mityay65]

[quote] They were going to complete the work initially in 2015, and the first tugboat flight to be carried out in 2018, but the timing, like many other projects, had to be shifted several times. [not / quote]
Where does this information come from about 15? There was no such thing. Or, again, the version of Deputy Prime Minister Borisov, waging a difficult struggle with Roscosmos?

[astepanov]

Urlichich spoke about the work on the creation of a space tug with a nuclear engine,

There is no nuclear engine there. There is a nuclear power plant, and the engine is ionic, megawatt.

using for this not traditional (at the moment) fuel, but the energy of a kind of "nuclear battery".

What "nuclear battery"? It is planned to use a full-fledged nuclear reactor feeding the generator through a turbine unit. Either Urlichich is not aware of what his office is doing, or the journalists, as usual, misinterpreted everything, or the author of the article freely interprets what was said, believing all readers to be suckers ...
I remember that the president, regarding the tug of the megawatt class, also said that he was about to fly. It was the hope of a breakthrough in space exploration - and now she died. Soon we will stop believing in everything and everything: lies have become a lifestyle.

[astepanov]

Something strange. Isn't that what the authors of the name of the tracking system were tempted to do: "Milk is twice as tasty if it's Milky Way!"

[Last centurion]

I do not believe in fairy tales about the future in 10-20 years. since they built communism somehow ... I remember ...

[slipped]

The appearance of a spacecraft with a nuclear power plant, demonstrated at MAKS-2019:

[Knell wardenheart]

"planned to be completed in 2015 and launch in 2018" and now the launch is "scheduled" in 2030.
Nothing like a shift in terms, eh?) During this time, the children born have already finished school))
I involuntarily remember Khoja Nasreddin with his "talking donkey", for those who are in the subject ..

[gig334]

They like to talk a lot with us, but they do not like to do it. I already do not pay attention to these plans and stories. With current leadership and a corrupt economic system, this is simply not possible. But someone still believes in this, as he believes in a decent life with them.

[VladVlad]

The timing of the launch of the nuclear space tug is "very encouraging"! Very funny spotters from RK. Where are the test reports for a small working model in a vacuum chamber? What the hell is throwing a huge nuclear monster into space if a small model doesn't work? The TR-3B and its many modifications and drones made by the United States have long been sailing the space ocean. Everything is classified, but sometimes it ends up on video. There are dozens of testimonials on YouTube. These vehicles control the force of gravity, control the force of inertia, control the flow, etc. These technologies were developed in the USSR in the late 80s. The US stole it and did it. Our government officials and the military believe that this UFO is flying.

[Chigi]

Quote: VladVlad

TR-3B and its many modifications and drones, manufactured in the USA, have long plowed the space ocean.

Quote: VladVlad

These devices control the force of gravity, control the force of inertia, control the flow around, etc.

So that's why in Moscow there is no snow in winter. Well now everything is clear

[Vladimir Bogatyrev]

At least once the timeline was shifted not forward, but backward. The favorite anecdote of Roscosmos about Nasreddin and his ass is constantly repeated.