Why Polish politicians aggravated border syndrome

Why Polish politicians aggravated border syndrome

And what did you do in Yalta in the 45th?



Poland historically has fallen between Russia and Germany, and nothing new today, in fact, is happening. However, Germany, remaining the leader of the European Union, which is now very difficult to maintain unity, may well seize the opportunity to “meet” claims against Poland.

Indeed, the deliberate Polish foreign policy activity is by no means limited to excursions to history. It, among other things, actually casts doubt on the legitimacy of all Polish borders, including the post-war Polish-German border defined at the insistence of the USSR during the Yalta Allied Conference in February 1945.


East of it, as you know, there are really Polish territories, which became the reason that Poland was pretty much pushed to the west. And by no means in the East’s favor - the transfer to the USSR of territories with Ukrainian and Belarusian by more than three quarters of the population did not bother anyone, not even Churchill, who was passionately committed to the notorious “Curzon line”“Find the answer to the British ultimatum!”).

In Bonn, and then in Berlin, it was very rarely remembered that in the German Basic Law of 1949, which is still valid today, it is prescribed that the western and northeastern (ex-Prussian) regions of post-war Poland be considered German. But now they can and remember. However, about this - a little later ...

It is characteristic in this connection that the leaders of Eastern European countries, including the GDR, have repeatedly emphasized the geopolitical significance of the Yalta decisions. Firstly, they permanently saved Warsaw from "nostalgia" according to old-time plans for Poland from sea to sea - from the Baltic to the Black.

However, for the Poles themselves, the second was much more important - the return of the originally Polish territories captured even by Prussia long before the creation of a unified German empire under its auspices. Either traditional Russian generosity, or a deceptive faith in a new ally - Poland, led the Soviet leadership to a strategic error. It did not support the demand of its East European allies to demand from Germany the abolition of revenge-seeking articles in its Basic Law.

The leaders of the countries of people's democracy rightly considered it necessary to more clearly legally consolidate the Yalta decisions and specifically the post-war borders in the "triangle" of the USSR - Poland - Germany.

For example, the Secretary General of the Romanian Communist Party and the President of Romania, Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej, in talks with the then head of the German Democratic Republic, Otto Grotewol in January 1956, said:

“Churchill and Roosevelt agreed with the Yalta decisions taken at the insistence of Stalin, since the Soviet Army, and not Western troops, already determined the“ climate ”in Eastern Europe. Particularly lucky was Poland, which received long-standing Polish lands. But at the same time, those territories, Polish only partly were cut off from it, thanks to which it has long since laid claim to "Poland from sea to sea." They take (the head of Poland in the late 40s - mid 50s. - Approx. Aut.) Considers such decisions to be correct. "


In response, Otto Grotewol proposed fixing the significance of those decisions within the framework of a single East European document:

“Yalta is important because geographically and politically, East Germany is spared from Prussian militarism, which has always plunged Germany into aggressive wars. It would be right if we could get the FRG to officially recognize the new borders in Eastern Europe. But in its Basic Law of 1949, claims to the borders of 1937 are indicated, especially to Prussia.

But in negotiations with Adenauer (Chancellor of Germany in 1949-66 - Approx. Aut.) In Moscow in 1955, Khrushchev., Bulganin and Molotov did not touch on this issue at all. In connection with the new course of the USSR, this issue, apparently, will never be discussed with Germany, although we suggested that Moscow discuss it with Adenauer. "

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Where does the claim come from?


Indeed, the post-Stalinist leadership of the USSR never discussed this issue with the FRG, forcing all the pro-Soviet countries of Eastern Europe to hush it up. However, the PRC and Albania officially condemned such a conjuncture course of Moscow in relation to Bonn; similar was the position of Bucharest, East Berlin, Pyongyang (although "non-public", in contrast to Beijing and Tirana).

But these disagreements did not affect Moscow in any way, because already in 1955 they agreed with Adenauer, even if preliminary, on long-term soft loans for the USSR. Finally, from the second half of the 60s, Germany financed state and commercial loans with the creation in the 70s and early 80s of a network of export gas pipelines from the USSR to Germany and other EU countries (mainly through Germany). Why "risk" such projects and even more so obtaining loans with preferential terms?

The conversation between the Czechoslovak leader Clement and Boleslav Bierut in Warsaw on September 19, 1952 is also noteworthy:

"" "They take: We must clearly confirm in the agreements of our countries with the German Democratic Republic and the USSR that the Soviet-Polish treaty of 1941 is invalid. This is especially important in connection with the new borders. I told Stalin several times about this - he agreed, but considers it secondary, as the countries of people's democracy and the USSR will have no questions on the post-war borders. ”


Gottwald offered a broader context to Berut's initiative:

“I think the same, but it is probably better to confirm all this with some document at the corresponding conference of the countries of people's democracy and the USSR. Because this issue concerns, in addition to ours, and other countries of popular democracy.
Take: I agree. We will offer it. ”


But such a forum did not take place. In Moscow, these issues were considered secondary in relations with the new allies, not expecting, of course, the collapse of the USSR, etc. events. Meanwhile, K. Gottwald died suddenly on March 14, 1953, shortly after Stalin's funeral.

But B. Take suddenly died in Moscow in early March 1956. His relatives recalled how the Polish politician was stunned by the "sudden and slanderous" anti-Stalinist report of Khrushchev at the XNUMXth CPSU Congress on the eve of his death.

As for the Soviet-Polish treaty of July 30, 1941 (London) "On the restoration of diplomatic relations and the creation of the Polish army on the territory of the USSR", then its article 1 announces:

"The Government of the USSR recognizes the Soviet-German treaties of 1939 regarding territorial changes in Poland as void."



This means that the inclusion of Polish (as of September 1, 1939) Vilnius, Western Ukraine and Western Belarus into the USSR was actually recognized as illegitimate.

In the first post-war years, treaties and clarifying Soviet-Polish documents on the new East Polish border were signed. However, there was no indication or confirmation in them that the aforementioned article of the 1941 treaty had lost its legal force.


In Western Belarus, the greetings of the Red Army in 1939 were written in three languages

Is this where Warsaw’s current political speculations about the USSR and the Russian Federation come from?

But Russia, obviously, should seriously take care that in solving border issues there should be more active those whom they, in modern conditions, affect not historically, but quite specifically: Belarus and Ukraine.
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  1. Hunter 2 28 January 2020 06: 33 New
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    Too generous a present Stalin made to the Poles! Hyenas of Europe should pray at him, but they also raise their voice ...
    Well, with the monuments to the fallen (for the liberation of Poland from Nazism, more than 600 thousand were lost) to Soviet Soldiers - only Vandals and Shamefighters can fight ...
    1. Same lech 28 January 2020 06: 47 New
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      Too generous a present Stalin made to the Poles!

      This is not enough for Poland ... now they want to impose indemnities on Russia as the heir to the USSR ... the appetite of the Polish leadership is growing by leaps and bounds.
      1. Hunter 2 28 January 2020 06: 59 New
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        From a dead donkey their ears ... and not indemnity! We lost the war to them? Contribution is the payment of the vanquished - to the winners!
        Israel - that is exactly soon begins to milk the Poles for their crimes during the WWII. These guys are not “generous” at all - they will not miss this opportunity. There are about $ 300 billion, only property taken by the Poles from the Jews!
        500 thousand Poles fought in the Wehrmacht and the SS. They served in concentration camps ... so let them answer, even with Money.
        1. novel66 28 January 2020 07: 45 New
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          Lesch hi , so at the end of the war they were the winners! (like the French !!! laughing laughing ), but in the concentration camps - whoever didn’t attend, there are always enough seams
          1. Hunter 2 28 January 2020 09: 01 New
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            Roma hi , no - they were not the winners! Unconditional Surrender Act - Poles did not sign! As always, they just got along ... well, they don’t get used to it negative
            1. novel66 28 January 2020 10: 17 New
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              and who crushed the German panzers, if not these modest guys
              1. Sapsan136 28 January 2020 11: 21 New
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                All the problems of the USSR and the Russian Federation from the fact that they are too flirting with the nationalities, belittling the role of the Russian people ... You watch such films, so you would think that 3 Poles, Georgians and a dog won the Second World War while the Russians drank vodka somewhere ... listen, so all Russian drunks, only on the streets of St. Petersburg why drunk Finns are lying around ...
              2. Essex62 29 January 2020 12: 00 New
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                Cinema is not bad for its time. He watched the boy with pleasure. The Poles bravely fought Nazism both in the Polish Army, together with the Soviet Army, and in the British Army. They are different psheks, then and now.
              3. victor50 29 January 2020 18: 21 New
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                Quote: novel xnumx
                and who crushed the German panzers, if not these modest guys

                Someone who .. Georgian, of course, well, and a dog lol
      2. bessmertniy 28 January 2020 07: 03 New
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        They would have recalled False Dmitry and demanded for themselves those borders. lol Poland must be somehow economically punished so that its leadership does not fantasize, but understands the current realities without any complaints. negative
    2. Vend 28 January 2020 10: 47 New
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      Quote: Hunter 2
      Too generous a present Stalin made to the Poles! Hyenas of Europe should pray at him, but they also raise their voice ...
      Well, with the monuments to the fallen (for the liberation of Poland from Nazism, more than 600 thousand were lost) to Soviet Soldiers - only Vandals and Shamefighters can fight ...

      It was necessary to agree to the proposal of the West and not to restore Poland. then probably the Poles would be happy.
    3. iouris 28 January 2020 12: 37 New
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      Quote: Hunter 2
      Too generous a present Stalin made to the Poles!

      Stalin, however, could not know that we would dissolve the USSR and the police department for the sake of sausage and beer, which supposedly were not there. For such "pranks" have to pay yourself.
  2. Vladimir_2U 28 January 2020 06: 38 New
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    " Hyena the cat scratches on its ridge "
  3. rocket757 28 January 2020 06: 45 New
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    And now the truth is only in FORCE! It is necessary to stand on that ... because otherwise all sorts of different people no longer understand.
  4. rotmistr60 28 January 2020 06: 52 New
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    Could our ancestors after the end of the war imagine for even a second that in 75 years those whom they freed would not only demolish the monuments put to their comrades in arms, distort history, but also demand material compensation from Russia for the "occupation"? Of course not. Insolence, cynicism generated by impunity only increases. Probably enough to call for reason, to try to explain something to all these limitrophs, former accomplices of the Nazis, terry Russophobes, and the time has come to crush not only archival documents, but also economically, more rigidly politically on international platforms. It’s time for our Foreign Ministry to insert a “metal jaw” and begin to nibble these political freaks. Otherwise, it will end very badly for our country.
    1. Walking 28 January 2020 12: 07 New
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      There are practically no politicians in Russia who could clearly and responsibly defend the interests of the country. We are accustomed to expressing concern only with words and cannot confirm with deeds.
    2. Essex62 29 January 2020 12: 06 New
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      Fit into the Masonic system to have a steel jaw is not possible. To do this, there must be a real "front" against the west and not a noodle-like one, for domestic use.
    3. Grits 30 January 2020 01: 34 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      It’s time for our Foreign Ministry to insert a “metal jaw” and begin to nibble these political freaks.

      Unfortunately, there is no one comparable in strength to the jaws with Stalin.
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    1. don-1500 28 January 2020 08: 12 New
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      To do this, you need a normal chancellor (a kind of trump), can help laughing .
      1. jonht 28 January 2020 09: 06 New
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        I support, we choose the Chancellor. drinks
  6. Operator 28 January 2020 07: 43 New
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    The authors of the article should carefully approach the presentation of historical facts.

    The fundamental law (Constitution) of Germany from 1947 has not yet been enacted due to the refusal of the largest subject of the federation - Bavaria - to sign a federal agreement (to preserve the possibility of its secession from the Federal Republic of Germany).

    The London treaty of 1941 between the SNK of the USSR and the Polish government in exile was denounced by the USSR in 1943 due to the loss of legitimacy by the Polish government (violation of the provisions of the Constitution of the Commonwealth on the transfer of power). From that moment on, the “government in exile” became a de facto public organization, incl. and for the USA and Great Britain, which together with the USSR in 1945 at the Yalta Conference resolved the question of the borders of Poland on their own.

    The post-war borders of the USSR, Poland, Czechoslovakia and the Soviet zone of occupation of Germany (future GDR) are based solely on the Yalta agreement of the states participating in the Anti-Hitler coalition, on post-war border agreements between the USSR, Poland, East Germany and Czechoslovakia, the UN Charter, and also on the Helsinki Final Act meetings on security and cooperation in Europe of 1975.

    Therefore, any of the existing states (Germany, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine) does not have the right to unilaterally review existing borders without leaving the UN, established by the states of the Anti-Hitler Coalition with special rights for permanent members of the UN Security Council - Russia, USA, Britain, France and China (Security Council decisions are binding on all UN members).

    PS Legally, the Russian Federation is not a successor, but a successor to the USSR.
    1. Grandfather Crimea 29 January 2020 09: 48 New
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      History loves facts, and facts are documents. You are well supplemented and refined.
      But no matter how we would like (wanting is not harmful, harmful not wanting))))), and our diplomacy will remain that way. That's why she and diplomacy-delay the military conflict to the last.
      The young generation (from 90_x) is already being brought up on the wrong side and is studying the wrong story that under the USSR and in Belarus and Ukraine, not to mention the former social camp. Therefore, such crap pops up periodically as truth and truth (((((
  7. bzbo 28 January 2020 09: 17 New
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    The last partition of Poland will already be without Poles ...
    1. iouris 28 January 2020 14: 06 New
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      What about the last partition of the USSR, is it over?
  8. Ros 56 28 January 2020 09: 31 New
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    Conduct another Yalta and take these lands from the Poles, as they did not justify trust and return to the Germans. And they will vomit, carry out the next partition of Poland, it’s time to reduce the arrogance.
  9. Paul Siebert 28 January 2020 09: 41 New
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    The Polish nation is the most nationalist in Europe.
    There are almost no foreign "inclusions" in it.
    The Polish environment is obsolete. It has always been so.
    After the First World War, Poland gained independence and foreign lands.
    And immediately the genocide of non-Poles began. All (!) Germans were evicted from the former Danzig. Jewish pogroms constantly took place. Western Belarusians and Ukrainians were not issued Polish passports, they were forbidden to study at Polish universities.
    With their infinite ambition, the Poles took over Hitler.
    He could not allow the Germans, the true Aryans, some Slavic country in the east to consider second-class people.
    The Second World War began. From Poland.
    Now this "creation of the Treaty of Versailles" is again yapping at Germany and Russia.
    Demands something, blames someone ...
    They forgot one thing. An incomplete month - that is how much, it turned out, Polish independence cost in 1939.
    If war happens today, everything will be decided in a week. Or even less. And no one will even mention the use of nuclear weapons.
    Nobody wants to die because of the Poles. Let them remember this!
  10. aszzz888 28 January 2020 09: 42 New
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    They want to cut money, that’s BORN at the end! the polar elite. angry negative angry
  11. Kostadinov 28 January 2020 11: 06 New
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    1. In the center of Warsaw should be the monuments of Lenin and Stalin. The first creator, and the second savior and the greatest benefactor of the new Polish state.
    2. It will be very interesting to look at the restoration of Polish borders until September 1, 1939.
  12. asp373 28 January 2020 11: 10 New
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    This means that the inclusion of Polish (as of September 1, 1939) Vilnius, Western Ukraine and Western Belarus into the USSR was actually recognized as illegitimate.

    What ?! What relation can the Soviet-German treaty have to the Soviet-Polish border. It seems like 4 sections of Poland did not exist yet, or did I miss something?
    1. Nikolai Korovin 29 January 2020 17: 08 New
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      Vilensky region was annexed by Poland. Lithuania has never recognized this. In September 1939, at the insistence of Germany, Lithuania mobilized, and the Lithuanian army pulled out two Polish divisions. True, this, of course, had no practical significance. The USSR gave Vilnius and the Vilnius Territory to Lithuania - while the general situation allowed the existence of independent Lithuania. As for Western Ukraine and Western Belarus, neither the British nor the French not only did not declare war on the USSR, but did not even express the slightest protest. On the contrary, Churchill expressed deep satisfaction that a formed, albeit not yet functioning, but real Eastern Front that Germany could not ignore and would have to keep in Poland occupied by it (the Red Army, in fact, did not advance beyond the Curzon line, and thus, The USSR only returned the territories annexed by Poland in 1920) to at least 20-25 divisions, which will affect matters on the Western Front. It did not help, however. But it should be noted that the ratio of losses of French officers to the ranks for the war with Germany was 1: 3, and Polish - 1:30. The French officers could not stop the demoralized privates, and the Polish officers darted ahead. There is some difference.
  13. Kristina 28 January 2020 15: 55 New
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    I am very glad that they paid attention to the formal legitimacy of the 1941 treaty. However, a joint declaration on the cancellation of this treaty in the forties essentially would not have decided anything. Modern Polish authorities will insist on the illegitimacy of the authorities of people's Poland as such.
    However, it is quite problematic for the same Polish authorities to selectively consider some international agreements of people's Poland legitimate, while others do not.
  14. n0001 28 January 2020 21: 01 New
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    After 1945, the USSR estimated the value of the territory lost by Poland in the east, and the territories it acquired in the west. 3 billion US dollars and 9 billion US dollars. The difference was paid by Poland, the USSR with coal.
  15. Pavel57 29 January 2020 01: 03 New
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    Belarusians are silent?
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  17. Eug
    Eug 29 January 2020 13: 19 New
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    EU infusions (subsidies) to Poland are ending, Trump has signed a law under which Poland must pay Israeli citizens compensation for property lost by them in Poland approx. 300 billion dollars (estimated). So they are trying to find new sources of financing, because they perfectly understand that their economy is not at all as strong as is commonly believed ..
  18. bbss 29 January 2020 16: 57 New
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    The other day I was struck by the abundance of banderlogs in ... Kazakhstan. And inveterate Nazis! During the war there were kept captive Spaniards from the Blue Division. Recently opened a monument to them (!). At a ceremony on this occasion, someone from the government of Kazakhstan noted Russophobian speech. Yes, such that the local press did not publish.