Palestinian state without army and air defense: details of “deal of the century” published

In the photo - soldiers of the Israeli army

Details of the so-called "deal of the century" appeared in the Israeli press. This is an American proposal to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli crisis.

The publication "Ediot Ahronot" writes that the preliminary period before the introduction of the "deal of the century" will be about 4 years. During this time, representatives of the Palestinian leadership “must agree”, and Israel “will be able to continue building housing in existing Jewish settlements, but without beginning the implementation of new settlement projects.”

Based on the "deal of the century", up to 40 percent of the territory of the regions of Judea and Samaria will go to Israel, 40% - to Palestine. However, there is no exact data on what will happen to the rest of the territories of these regions. The author in the Israeli media notes that ultimately, "they can move to a future Palestinian state."

After the transition period, the Palestinian authorities will be able to declare the creation of the state. At the same time, the Palestinian state will be deprived of the right to have its own army, the right to control its airspace - that is, with a complete ban on its own air defense. Border points, based on the transaction, the Arabs also will not be able to control. The United States believes that Palestine will have to transfer this right to Israel.

This already has its own oddity: what does it mean to transfer border points under complete control to a neighboring state (and even with which at the moment there is actually a long-standing war)?

Additionally, the “deal of the century” prescribes a ban for Palestine to enter into military alliances with anyone.

It is also noted that a tunnel will be dug between Gaza and another part of the future Palestinian state.

A few more points:
The complete disarmament of Hamas and other armed groups in Gaza; dismantling of 60 outposts, which are currently home to about 3000 Israeli settlers; Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel, but the management of holy places in this city should be joint.

Palestine, if approved, will receive $ 50 billion in direct investment.

Ediot Aharonot writes that only if Israel accepts the deal will Trump “allow Israel to annex the Jordan Valley.”

Recall that one of the main ideologists of the "deal of the century" is the son-in-law of the American president Jared Kushner.

Comments

[501 Legion]

funny to read the Palestinians will not go for it, they were cut down everywhere and the Jews are luxurious.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: 501Legion

funny to read

The title of the publication is speaking

Idiot

All said

[Krasnodar]

Hebrew idiot - Izvestia

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Krasnodar

Hebrew idiot - Izvestia

I do not know how in Hebrew - I read in Russian. Maybe in the language of some Papuans from Oceania - and "Russia" sounds somehow indecent. I fully admit it.

[Shurik70]

Quote: 501Legion

funny to read the Palestinians will not go for it, they were cut down everywhere and the Jews are luxurious.

For $ 50 billion, given that 99% will settle in private accounts?
Run skipping.
Only Israel will not do this. Because he understands perfectly well that money is being stolen.
And surely there is (most likely from the Palestinians, but maybe a Jew) that will commit a terrorist attack, the victims will strike back, they will be answered for that ...
And everything will return as it was.
Israel will not dismantle the wall and posts. Maximum - agree to the tunnel to Gaza.

[Amin_vivec]

A 35-40 km tunnel is not cheap at all. $ 50 billion will go to him. They also will not finish building, and should remain.

[Shurik70]

He will not be made using Metrostroy technology. The main thing for Jews is not to get out of this tunnel in Israel. Where it will pass is almost entirely farmland. So they dig a moat, concrete the walls, make a ceiling, and cover it with earth. Inside the hidden cameras, they will set up ventilation with lighting.
Cheap, fast, reliable.

[Krasnodar]

I grew up where it is customary to know two, preferably three languages. Although - there were jokes. The writing in Hebrew is the top (of a triangle, for example), the expired (check) - fuck in Hebrew. The Arab Fog - up, consonant with the British pronunciation of the familiar English curse, etc. )))

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Krasnodar

past due (check) - come on in Hebrew.

I liked your comment very much! Indeed, in the Russian language there are already a lot of borrowings! Now you can always say on legal grounds like this: "Listen, this check is already expired! Fuck with it!" ... (Attention! Attention! Everyone, everyone! I speak harmless concepts in Hebrew ... no "lewdness"! )

[Magog]

Yesterday, passing by the town of Lukhovitsy, I saw a road sign with the name of the river: "Vobdya"! This is obviously a Russian name.

[Magog]

Sorry, "ochepatka": the river VOBLYA! (You cannot delete a comment.)

[Krasnodar]

In the Krasnodar Territory, a bunch of free names - you go, signs - Dry Slit, Bzhid, Agoy

[zoland]

Not overdue, but delayed

[Krasnodar]

Delayed, absolutely true. Better write, as in Arabic my brother))

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Krasnodar

Hebrew idiot - Izvestia

And the "deal of the century" offered to the Palestinians, translated from Hebrew, means "Reservation"
PS- What is it? - The Indians are in the know! Once several ships from Europe moored to their shores and now they have no army, no air defense, no border crossings, no country.

[novel66]

but the good Indians also fed them a turkey

[Ramzaj99]

It's funny all this ....
When the Jews wrest territory from their neighbors, and with the help of tanks, this is a "transition of territories". The whole world is applauding.
When Russia returns its, moreover peacefully, it is annexation ... The most severe sanctions are from almost everyone.
In my opinion this world has gone crazy ........

[Spektr]

No, they consider everyone to be crazy, who can be moved as they like. It's just that these people completely lack conscience and the concept of responsibility, in the hope that they will have nothing for it. It will not be for the time being, but no one knows how the card will lie there. It's just that the "select" oversee the "exceptional" and seem to even manage, that's all their resourcefulness lies in this.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: 501Legion

funny to read the Palestinians will not go for it, they were cut down everywhere and the Jews are luxurious.

Not only did the Jews, when creating the state, cut, with the help of the United Nations, their fellow countrymen more and better, they also now want to grab some kind of share. And then they wonder why they are not loved anywhere.

[Krasnodar]

Oh
They received their land back, thanks to the UN, and got it thanks to the successful repulsion of the aggression of neighboring countries that could not cut them.
My former companion also does not like me - I had to return the stolen money in a larger amount than I hid

[MMX]

Quote: Krasnodar

Oh
They received their land back, thanks to the UN, and got it thanks to the successful repulsion of the aggression of neighboring countries that could not cut them.
My former companion also does not like me - I had to return the stolen money in a larger amount than I hid

Their land was not there.

P.S. "Deal of the Century" is sheer nonsense and steam. There is already a ready-made solution and it is old. You just have to do it.

[Krasnodar]

Well, yes, Judea and Samaria have nothing to do with the Jews. Pure Arabic name.

[MMX]

Quote: Krasnodar

Well, yes, Judea and Samaria have nothing to do with the Jews. Pure Arabic name.

Are there any names around the world. Jews lost statehood (read territory) millennia ago, after which this land belonged to others.

[Krasnodar]

Now belongs to them again

[MMX]

Quote: Krasnodar

Now belongs to them again

This is what we are talking about - it becomes "her" when this land is taken over. Until that moment, the land is foreign.

[Krasnodar]

If someone squeezed out your house, and you bought it, it becomes yours again)). And if they tried to squeeze it again after that, and you fought back, then all the more

[MMX]

Quote: Krasnodar

If someone squeezed out your house, and you bought it, it becomes yours again)). And if they tried to squeeze it again after that, and you fought back, then all the more

Yes there all this land was squeezed out to whom not laziness at each other. Therefore, the owners are many

[Krasnodar]

Now it’s not laziness to the Arabs - but it’s not the owners

[MMX]

Quote: Krasnodar

Now it’s not laziness to the Arabs - but it’s not the owners

The length of time is negligible (to put it mildly) to draw any conclusions.

In addition, when they already owned, therefore, they also have the right, it turns out. Well I say, from your logic there are applicants to this land as dirt ...

[Krasnodar]

Wait and see

[MMX]

Quote: Krasnodar

Wait and see

Yes, I agree.

[mikstepanenko]

They got their land back

Is it mine? Even from the Bible, this is the land of the Philistines, which the Jews took away with weapons. And the Philistines were a Slavic people.

[Krasnodar]

Based on the Bible, this is the land of the Canaanite peoples, to whom the Philistines, a native of Crete, who are closer to the Greeks and have no side to the Slavs, have nothing to do. The Philistines - the Greek transcription of the Hebrew name plishtim - from the word plish - invasion, i.e. colonial occupiers. They were aliens there, like the Jews. And it was 3100-3300 about years ago)).

[Bukhalov]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: 501Legion

funny

And then they wonder why they are not loved anywhere.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: 501Legion

funny to read the Palestinians will not go for it, they were cut down everywhere and the Jews are luxurious.

Not only did the Jews, when creating the state, cut, with the help of the United Nations, their fellow countrymen more and better, they also now want to grab some kind of share. And then they wonder why they are not loved anywhere.

Your trills from tropical Krasnoyarsk generate only one wish: "Maestro, cut your march!" You are pouring in too much. Where did the UN come from at the end of the 19th century, when the Jews did not cut the land, but bought it. Officially, the owners have Turkish effendis. And they never heard of the Palestinian Arabs. Due to their absence. They were at that time in Sudan and Yemen. About the "fertility" of these lands, who only spoke with horror. Mark Twain for example. Literally: "Scorched, dead, lifeless desert. You can travel tens of miles and not meet a single living soul.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Bukhalov

Maestro, cut back the march! "You are pouring too much. Where did the UN come from at the end of the 19th century, when the Jews did not cut the land, but bought it. Officially.

= In January 1915, Cabinet member Herbert Samuel presented to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs a memorandum on “The Future of Palestine,” in which he proposed annexing this territory and settling “3 or 4 million European Jews” =
This is how you bought "officially" the land of Palestine.
= "Balfour Declaration." In response to UK support for the creation of a “Jewish home” in Palestine, Jewish Zionist volunteers formed the Jewish Legion, which helped British troops conquer Palestine. =
And so, too, you "officially" bought the land of Palestine.
= The growth of Jewish immigration to Palestine has led to an increase in Arab nationalism and a deterioration in relations between Arabs and Jews. =
= At the same time, with the same document, Britain refused the promises regarding Arabs set forth in the correspondence of McMahon-Hussein (English) of 1915, which provided for an independent Arab state within its "natural borders", including, in the opinion of the Arabs, including all of Palestine [45]. =
= During the Mandate, Jews never made up the majority of the population of Palestine, but their numbers increased significantly, for example, in 1920 the Arabs accounted for an absolute majority (90%), and by 1947, Jews made up 31% of the population [57].
For 1943, 49% of urban and rural buildings and 12% of cultivable land (arable land and perennial plantations) belonged to Jews in the territory of the British Mandate in Palestine [58]. About half of the land was state-owned, about 47% of the land was owned by Arab and other non-Jewish landowners, and about 6% was owned by Jews. =
During World War 2, the Germans exterminated the Jews (Holocaust), of course, having previously robbed them. Undetermined were driven to camps and ghettos. After the war, the surviving Jews moved to Palestine and bought land from the Arabs. Where did the robbed fascists and their accomplices of the Jews get the currency to buy land?
= The United Nations at the Second Session of its General Assembly on November 29, 1947 adopted a partition plan for Palestine (UN General Assembly Resolution No. 181).
According to this plan, Jerusalem was to become an international city (corpus separatum) under the leadership of the United Nations in order to prevent a conflict over its status. It was also intended to introduce such neighboring settlements as Jerusalem, Shufat, Ein Karem and Bethlehem into Jerusalem. =
And what happens after? Where a silent glanders, where with the help of weapons the Jews more and more seize the Arab lands.

Quote: Bukhalov

It’s too awesome you fill.

So which of us "floods"?

[borberd]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

So which of us "floods"?

You contradict yourself. In the same post you declare that the Jews did not buy land, and then provide evidence that Jews bought 49% of the urban land and 12% of arable land. Do not copy-paste from this source anymore. After all, they write nonsense, but you retype it without reading.
The Jews who survived and were robbed after the Holocaust did not buy land in Palestine, they were bought by Jewish and Christian foundations from America, philanthropists like Baron Rothschild.

[Krasnodar]

Why, in Scheme there was an Arab majority - the Natasha family - such a surname))
Arab merchants and fishermen lived in Jaffa, also in Gaza

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Not only did the Jews, when creating the state, cut, with the help of the UN, more and better zemstvos,

And let's see

Look at the left map,
From Ber Sheva down was a bare desert
The isthmuses that can be cut and there is no Israel, the coastal strip is sands,
But the Jewish people for centuries dreamed of returning to their land, and all this did not stop him from turning this land into a blooming garden.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Look at the left map,

And why only to the left? I looked at the left and the right and compared how much is on the left red and how much on the right is red. This only confirms my words - where a quiet glanders, where by force of arms the Jews occupy Arab lands. Will you argue?
How many Palestinians were killed by the Israelis

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

turn this land into a blooming garden.

?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

And why only to the left? I looked at the left and the right and compared,

I answered only about bad land
About the central and right I wrote earlier
But for you personally
1948 The war for non-dependence was lost, LOST (you will find historical examples yourself)
1967 asked for war, got lost, LOST (you will find historical examples yourself)
1973 attacked, lost, LOST (you will find historical examples yourself)
Who concluded a peace treaty received back. And the rest do not want peace.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

And the rest do not want peace.

Okay. I will take your house from you, and then I will say - let's make peace. At the same time, there is no question of returning home.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

. I will take your house from you, and then I will say - let's make peace

Provided that я I will come to pick up YOUR HOME

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Provided that I come to pick up YOUR HOUSE

You will not come, you have already come and taken away. Where by cunning, where by bribery, where by force. And then you are still surprised that nobody wants to put up with you.
Not only that, you also point a finger - he doesn’t want to put up, what have I got to do with it?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You will not come, you have already come and taken away

You either do not really own the information or is it your main business to distort reality.
And I decided to write, for some reason you don’t want UNDERSTAND
As everyone knows in 1948, the UN plan for the partition of Palestine provided for the termination of the British Mandate in Palestine and the creation on its territory two unnamed states: Jewish and Arab.
14 May 1948 gode, on the day of the end of the Mandate, the independence of the State of Israel was proclaimed, and 15 May regular army units seven LAS countries Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Transjordan attacked Israel, invaded Palestine in order to destroy the new Jewish state and create in Palestine "A single Arab state entity"
Azzam Pasha, Secretary General of the League of Arab States: “It will be a war of extermination followed by a massacre, which will be said to resemble the Mongolian massacre and the Crusades.”
I hope you will not argue with this fact?
As a result, the Wars of Independence and West Jerusalem were occupied by Jews and annexed to the State of Israel.
Judea and Samaria were occupied and unilaterally annexed by Transjordan (Jordan after their annexation in 1950, which gave them the name "West Bank" to distinguish it from the east bank - its territory before the war.
Jordanian unilateral annexation has been condemned by many countries, including most members of the League of Arab States. USSR recognized the legality of annexation
From the point of view of international law, the West Bank was under Jordanian occupation. From this territory were expelled ALL Jews and all synagogues are destroyed. The UN has not even considered this.
Egyptian President Nasser did not turn to Israel at the UN and the USSR to begin negotiations, but turned for military help, and when he was armed before the TEETH, he made the following statement:"When we enter Palestine, its land will not be covered with sand, it will be saturated with blood. Our national task is to destroy Israel."
But this was not enough for him and added:
“Our main goal will be the destruction of Israel. Arab peoples WANT TO FIGHT We will not agree to any coexistence with Israel.
In 1967, during the Six Day War, the area of ​​Judea and Samaria was occupied by Israel.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?
For centuries, a loser, always losing something.
In 1618, a truce was signed between the Russians and the Poles, according to which Russia lost Smolensk.
1654 - 1667 - The Russian-Polish war. Russians and Cossacks won a victory over the Poles. The result of the war - Smolensk and all the lands lost in troubled times, Left-Bank Ukraine and Kiev went to Russia.
1722 - 1723 - Russian-Persian war. He won the confrontation between Persia and Russia. . Thanks to this, the state received the Caspian lands with the cities of Derbent, Baku, and Rasht.
Well, about a closer time, I will not write.
Today, no one will negotiate with the Palestinian leaders until this paragraph is removed from the Palestinian Charter
"Paragraph 9. Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine and is therefore a strategy, not a tactic. The people of Palestine reaffirm their commitment to resolutely and unswervingly continue the armed struggle for the liberation of their homeland."
Please, no slogans.
If there are FACTS, I am ready to read them.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

independence of the State of Israel, and on May 15, regular units of the armies of seven LAS countries Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Transjordan attacked Israel, invaded Palestine in order to destroy the new Jewish state and create a “single Arab state formation” in Palestine

You offer me to provide some facts. From my point of view, this is pointless. Anyway until then. until you understand the meaning of the expression - a causal relationship.
The "invasion" of the troops of the countries you listed in Palestine is a consequence. And try to figure out the reasons for yourself, without deceiving yourself.
And it will be easy for you to do this if you introduce yourself as a Palestinian for a while.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You yourself, for a while, imagine a Palestinian.

Until 1948, all who lived in Palestine were Jews and ARABS !!!!!! were called Palestinians. Golda Meir declared "I am a Palestinian" in 1970,
YOU did not carefully read what happened in HISTORY.
And YOUR Wishlist came from the USSR. And as you know, they will disappear with him.
The policy of CONTEMPORARY RUSSIA is very different, and this YOU could see at a speech by Vladimir Putin in Jerusalem.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

The "invasion" of the troops of the countries you listed in Palestine is a consequence. And try to figure out the reasons for yourself, without deceiving yourself.

May 14, 1948, the day the Mandate ended proclaimed the independence of the State of Israel, and on May 15, regular units of the armies of seven LAS countries Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Transjordan attacked Israel, invaded Palestine to destroy a new Jewish state and creation in Palestine
without deceiving yourself
And others!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

were called Palestinians. Golda Meir declared "I am a Palestinian" in 1970,

And what follows from this?

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

And YOUR Wishlist came from the USSR.

What are you talking about?

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

The policy of CONTEMPORARY RUSSIA is very different, and this YOU could see at a speech by Vladimir Putin in Jerusalem.

Does this somehow explain the reason for the attack of 7 countries on Israel in 1948?

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

without deceiving yourself
And others!

First of all, you are fooling yourself by pretending with purely Jewish spontaneity that you did not understand my question - for what reasons did the 7 countries come together to destroy Israel?
Israel has just been created, or rather, only announced its creation, i.e. he did not have time, like a state, to do nasty things to neighbors, and yet his neighbors attacked him. Why? If you say - oh, so simple - I won’t believe it. And no one will believe.
So why did they attack? Well? How is the spirit, or is the gut thin?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

yet the neighbors attacked him. Why?

Azzam Pasha, Secretary General of the League of Arab States 1948: “It will be a war of extermination followed by a massacre, which will be said to resemble the Mongolian massacre and the Crusades.”
Egyptian President Nasser “When we enter Palestine, its land will not be covered with sand, it will be saturated with blood. Our national task is to destroy Israel.” “Our main goal will be the destruction of Israel. Arab peoples WANT TO FIGHT We will not agree to any coexistence with Israel.

"Paragraph 9. Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine and, therefore, strategy, not tactics. The people of Palestine reaffirm their firm intention to resolutely and unswervingly continue the armed struggle for the liberation of their homeland. "
Please give ת such statements by the leaders of Israel.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

What are you talking about?

I assume that you were born after the collapse of the USSR
HERE ABOUT THIS

LEARN HISTORY!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Please give ת such statements by the leaders of Israel.

Sorry, are you dumb? I asked a simple question three times already and all three times you answer in the style of BLA-BLA-BLA.
Therefore, allow me to take my leave.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You answer in the style of BLA-BLA-BLA.

HERE THIS APPLIES TO YOU
I have facts!
And YOU BLA-BLA-BLA

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

How many Palestinians were killed by the Israelis,

http://ru.danielpipes.org/5778/lyudskie-poteri-v-arabo-izrailskih-konfliktah

[Sgan]

And the Palestinians will not agree to any agreement, he will not agree to recognize Israel within any borders and they also do not need their own state. The only possibility of a peace agreement is to negotiate with the Arab countries, and the Palestinian territories will become part of Jordan (this was until 1967)

[DRM]

Quote: 501Legion

funny to read the Palestinians will not go for it, they were cut down everywhere and the Jews are luxurious.

Palestinians would have long agreed, Iran would not.

[Sergey Medvedev]

Under such conditions, this is never a state, rather autonomy. In fact, it may be a reservation.

[Pereira]

How will this differ from the existing state system, except for the surrender of the Palestinians in exchange for a promise of money?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Pereira

the surrender of the Palestinians in exchange for a promise of money

Bite on the loot-there is no Palestine.

It’s normal American practice to print green papers.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It’s normal American practice to print green papers.

Everything was invented a long time ago:

There is no fortress that a donkey loaded with gold could not take.

©

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vasyan1971

There is no fortress that a donkey loaded with gold could not take.

As I myself did not think of this quote! Basil, bravo and my applause!

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Bite on the loot-there is no Palestine.

They would have accepted Judaism long ago, and in general there would have been no problems.
After all, their ancestors were Jews from the 6th century. BC. 1 in. AD, then were Christians in the 6th century. BC, then became Muslims. And the difference is only in the prophets-agitators. Moses, Isa, and Magomed. The rest is the nuances ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi

Quote: Zoldat_A

Bite on the loot-there is no Palestine.

They would have accepted Judaism long ago, and in general there would have been no problems.
After all, their ancestors were Jews from the 6th century. BC. 1 in. AD, then were Christians in the 6th century. BC, then became Muslims. And the difference is only in the prophets-agitators. Moses, Isa, and Magomed. The rest is the nuances ...

Genetically - one people. And all their life they fight like J. Swift's - "pointed with blunt points"

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Genetically - one people. And all their life they fight like J. Swift's - "pointed with blunt points"

Who stupidly put the "minus"? Justify what I am wrong?

Or you don't give a fuck - what would not say - "Russian soldier" means "minus".
I will disappoint you - I do not care about the "cons" for a long time, but it is stupid to "minus", expressing my disapproval of the comment - stupid.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Zoldat_A

you don't give a fuck - cho would not say - "Russian soldier" means "minus".

As required to prove -

I even like it - as a child, I so infuriated the neighbor's shepherd with a piece of sugar.

If Russia does something right, the whole world does not like Russia.
If there is at least one that quietly hates me, encrypted, maybe I said something right?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Who stupidly put the "minus"? Justify what I am wrong?

Don’t pay attention. Jewish Nationalism - Hitler Resting ...

[bobba94]

My friend, he is a Jew by father and mother, a big joker and says so - there were many tribes in the Middle East in those days, they were called differently, but they were all Semites. One small tribe was lucky, Jesus was born in their tribe, and from that it all started ...... and they isolated themselves, and became proud and all that jazz

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: bobba94

My friend, he is a Jew by father and mother, a big joker and says so - there were many tribes in the Middle East in those days, they were called differently, but they were all Semites. One small tribe was lucky, Jesus was born in their tribe, and from that it all started ...... and they isolated themselves, and became proud and all that jazz

The whole history of the Middle East conflicts in three sentences.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

One small tribe was lucky, Jesus was born in their tribe, and that was how it all began.

If you read the Bible carefully, Isa was a Jewish ultranationalist. What did he say to a non-Jewish woman when she asked her child to be cured? Helping non-Jews is to take the child’s bread and throw it to the dog.

[Spektr]

So far, striped humpbacks have been able to buy other countries or their elites, with the exception of a couple of countries around the globe.

[antivirus]

and here they come - three thieves and a camel, fourth week
70 years agree ... last time

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: antivirus

and here they come - three thieves and a camel, fourth week
70 years agree ... last time

Are the camels being raped on schedule or is America the first one?

[novel66]

according to the ditty
"there is a camel on the mountain
his four ... "
enough for everyone

[knn54]

I remembered the CLASSIC: "Maybe I can give you another key to the apartment where the money is"?

[Nikolay87]

Briefly: they are trying to buy state for $ 50 billion. Great plan

[Pereira]

Even if this happens, I’m ready to argue, the Jews will squeeze out the money. At least for the arrangement of the border and digging the tunnel.

[KVU-NSVD]

The essence of the deal - surrender and become a "full" reservation for 50 lard ... then ... for sure ... But progress, before the islands were bought for beads, but here at least they pay money .. well, how do they pay ... they promise .. a good deal, profitable ... for Israel ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

"full" reservation for 50 lard

The amount is not small. It is unlikely that there are more than 5 million Palestinians. This is 10 kilobaks per nose !!!! Their families are large. Decent money in any country in the world ...

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: KVU-NSVD

"full" reservation for 50 lard

The amount is not small. It is unlikely that there are more than 5 million Palestinians. This is 10 kilobaks per nose !!!! Their families are large. Decent money in any country in the world ...

Well, the Palestinians "with big families" do not shine. Even if the "authors of the deals of the century" go out of their way, everything will be absorbed by bank transfer over the cream of the local political bomber with a smooth flow to offshore companies.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It is unlikely that there are more than 5 million Palestinians. This is 10 kilobaks per nose !!!!

Well, to Palestine the EU rolls off annually 500 million. Turkey a hundred. CA is almost a billion. So officials and wrestlers even have enough for the gilded Roll Royces. And the people on strawberries knock down their 10 thousand bucks. No herbicides. Very much appreciated in Europe.

[maden.usmanow]

Are there any other options?
Why does Palestine need an army, and especially air defense?

[Professor]

Quote: maden.usmanow

Are there any other options?
Why does Palestine need an army, and especially air defense?

There is. For example, send the Fylystyns to the Arab state already formed on the territory of Mandate Palestine. To Jordan. Moreover, 80% of the population there are already Fylistians.
States without air defense today are full. As well as the states of entry to which other states control. For example, Lesotho.

However, the Philistines will not make any deals and under no conditions. For them, the PROCESS of creating a state is a business. Very profitable business. As soon as they have their own country, interest in them will be the same as in Lesotho.

[Avior]

For example, send the Fylystyns to the Arab state already formed on the territory of Mandate Palestine.

actually they were already there. I remember when the locals escorted them, the tanks put on guard of honor

[Professor]

Quote: Avior

For example, send the Fylystyns to the Arab state already formed on the territory of Mandate Palestine.

actually they were already there. I remember when the locals escorted them, the tanks put on guard of honor

For half a century, the Fylystyns have not been able to forget those wires. Mentally, everything was so.

[Krasnodar]

Black september

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: maden.usmanow

Are there any other options?
Why does Palestine need an army, and especially air defense?

Indeed, and why should they even live on earth?

[sabakina]

Professor, aka Oleg, will you find 10 differences?

[Orkraider]

You reproach Russia for responding to the "independent state" by killing its military. And you yourself understand that this is an adequate answer.

Dixon
Understands, but really wants to bite these Russians. Most emigrants have such a funny behavior: they like to teach down and teach life to former fellow citizens. They sit on forums and websites of the former Motherland and teach, teach and teach life, talk about how poorly their country behaves and that "in a democratic world, it’s not accepted to behave like that ..."

Professor,
You normally commented earlier, why did you begin to change your communication style?

[Orkraider]

You are scared and do not spray with saliva.
Under item 3. Russian troops were on foreign territory. They were not any peacekeepers since they did not have a corresponding mandate.

How cool are you lying!
Brazenly and shamelessly ...
The mandate of the Russian peacekeepers was:

The resolution, co-sponsored by Russia, was adopted unanimously on Monday at a meeting of the UN Security Council. Together with Russian diplomats, their colleagues from France, Germany, Slovakia, the UK and the USA worked on the document. The main outcome of yesterday's meeting was the extension of the mandate of the UN observation mission in Georgia for another six months - until April 15, 2008.
The Security Council thus gave a negative answer to Georgia’s request for the replacement of Russian forces with international forces.

Georgia is recommended to ensure the freedom of movement of Russian peacekeepers, their "stabilizing role" is noted.

Resolution from the UN Security Council October 13, 2006
On this, regarding the presence of the Russian peacekeepers legally - please do not write an explicit lie.

Who first started shooting is also well known.

Yes, this is well known. To discuss with you about this is simply stupid.

Let’s suppose that your patrol will be destroyed completely, and it will be known that this was done by the Iranian unit, which was then relocated and located in the territory of another country, legally and by invitation. You want to say that Israel will not strike a retaliation, right?
Or do you think that only you have the right to give an answer for the lives of your citizens and soldiers?

[Professor]

Quote: Orkraider

How cool are you lying!
Brazenly and shamelessly ...
The mandate of the Russian peacekeepers was:
The resolution, co-sponsored by Russia, was adopted unanimously on Monday at a meeting of the UN Security Council. Together with Russian diplomats, their colleagues from France, Germany, Slovakia, the UK and the USA worked on the document. The main result of yesterday’s meeting was the extension of the mandate of the UN observation mission in Georgia for another six months - until 15 April 2008.
The Security Council thus gave a negative answer to Georgia’s request for the replacement of Russian forces with international forces.

There was a mandate but floated. You yourself wrote when it happened. On 8.8.8 there was no mandate, respectively, no "peacekeepers" either. Learn materiel.

Quote: Orkraider

Resolution from the UN Security Council October 13, 2006
On this, regarding the presence of the Russian peacekeepers legally - please do not write an explicit lie.

At 8.8.8 there was no mandate. Moreover, George demanded that Russian troops leave the sovereign territory of Georgia.

Quote: Orkraider

Yes, this is well known. To discuss with you about this is simply stupid.

Of course it's stupid. Indeed, for this you need to have knowledge. For example, that on the eve of 8.8.8 Tbilisi officially complained about the shelling of their villages. Do you get it? They didn’t complain about them, but they complained.

Quote: Orkraider

Let’s suppose that your patrol will be destroyed completely, and it will be known that this was done by the Iranian unit, which was then relocated and located in the territory of another country, legally and by invitation. You want to say that Israel will not strike a retaliation, right?

Our patrol in the territory of a neighboring state with which we are not at war? We then just apologize and will not send patrols there anymore.

Quote: Orkraider

Or do you think that only you have the right to give an answer for the lives of your citizens and soldiers?

Only those countries with whom we are at war. We do not strike at Egypt and Jordan no matter what.

[Orkraider]

There was a mandate and floated away.

Already better, admit that he was.
And what about UN Security Council Resolution 1808?

The United Nations Security Council adopted resolution 1808 late Tuesday, extending for another six months - until October 2008 - the mandate of UN peacekeepers in the Georgian-Abkhaz conflict zone (UNMIH).

You are wrong, and strong.

Our patrol in the territory of a neighboring state with which we are not at war? We then just apologize and will not send patrols there anymore.

Very thick. That is, if your soldiers are destroyed over foreign territory - you just apologize? Haha
Funny.

Only those countries with whom we are at war. We do not strike at Egypt and Jordan no matter what.

Operation Entebbe.
You have not violated even state borders and received permission to cross them with your armed forces? Do not violate the sovereignty of Uganda? Not?
Sure?!

About the essence of the operation is not necessary, I approve of the action of your government, but what you blame us above, you trampled much more seriously.

[Professor]

Quote: Orkraider

Already better, admit that he was.

There was no mandate 8.8.8.

Quote: Orkraider

And what about UN Security Council Resolution 1808?
The United Nations Security Council adopted resolution 1808 late Tuesday, extending for another six months - until October 2008 - the mandate of UN peacekeepers in the GeorgianAbkhazian Conflict (UNOMIG).

I will say that Abkhazia and Ossetia are not the same thing. Did you not know?

Quote: Orkraider

Very thick. That is, if your soldiers are destroyed over foreign territory - you just apologize? Haha

Our soldiers returned to their territory. Let yours do the same.

Quote: Orkraider

Operation Entebbe.
You have not violated even state borders and received permission to cross them with your armed forces? Do not violate the sovereignty of Uganda? Not?
Sure?!

Operation Entebbe? No, I have not. Heard about Operation Yoni. Are you talking about the release of hostages from an aircraft hijacked by terrorists? And what hostages did your soldiers release in Georgia and whom are they still releasing there?

Quote: Orkraider

About the essence of the operation is not necessary, I approve of the action of your government, but what you blame us above, you trampled much more seriously.

Did we squeeze out part of the territory of Uganda or were we already at home within XNUMX hours? Do the same. Come back home.

[Orkraider]

Georgia introduced its forces into the JPKF responsibility zone closed to them by the Dagomys Agreements and attacked Russian peacekeepers. See article 3, paragraph d, of the Definition of Aggression of the UN General Assembly-1974 (resolution 3314): “Attack by the armed forces of a state on land, sea or air forces, or sea and air fleets of another state”.
Point.

Did we squeeze out part of the territory of Uganda or were we already at home within XNUMX hours? Do the same. Come back home.

Have we squeezed out that part of Georgia where our soldiers were when the Georgians were forced to peace? And we were near Tbilisi .. No, we came back.
Do the same!
Come back home.
When will you return the captured Golan?

[Moskovit]

Yes, it is useless. You tell him about Thomas, he tells you about Yerema. Suffering from Russophobia, the Nazi never has a meal. Moreover, immigrants always want to be more correct than local ones. And Israel will have to always poke around in this Palestinian hemorrhoids. Whatever plans anyone suggests. They do not want and cannot integrate to themselves. Give full independence too. And the Arabs on the terms of ultimatums do not want to talk. If the Israeli Arabs are forever against their state, so talk about strangers.

[3danimal]

Stop stop. And where is Nazism? Is there criticism of the actions of state structures (the army in particular), if it is inconvenient - then, by definition, Russophobic? Convenient demagogic position.

[Moskovit]

Criticism is useful if it is objective. And when she slides to the fact that the Russian soldier is good for nothing but to work on a column-free column, and the Israeli, on the contrary, study at universities, what is it? It’s a pity they erased the opus in which he finally uncovered. Yes, actually it did not surprise anyone.

[Azis]

Quote: Dikson (Eugene)

guy with a machine gun

He is alive. https://kaspyinfo.ru/s-kazahskogo-kamennyj-mech-pulemjotchik-iz-astrahani-ostanovil-voennuju-kolonnu-i-stal-legendoj/

[Orkraider]

This is good, thanks for the link.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: professor

1. Some on their territory, others on someone else's.

Yes, only one is against cannibals, and three are cannibals.

[Krasnodar]

Why cannibals?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Well, how would they be with the United States in one bundle. But since links to pictures from Abu Ghraib are removed, I will say in words: “The third president is the executioner in the USA: Bush was a secret executioner, Obama is a shy executioner, Trump is a proud executioner. Since torture and extrajudicial executions - they have a constant practice.

[Krasnodar]

So it is from the late 60s. The Soviet Union sent troops for Egypt, Amers began to support Israel, which until the mid-50s was pro-Soviet, right down to culture.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Well yes. Until 1953, at May Day demonstrations in Tel Aviv, they walked with portraits of Stalin. For he broke through, in defiance of Churchill, the creation of Israel, and even allowed to deliver there "mules" - Czech Me-109.
But this does not change the present. Those people are extinct. And now Israel is the master of killing all over the world. It does not allow the Palestinian elite to form, which would corrupt Hamas and other parties with its corruption.

[Krasnodar]

Not therefore - just the majority of the population were socialists, the USSR was the flagship of ideology, Stalin was the leader of the country.
All the masters in the killings - and the Palestinian elite is more intriguing against each other, has long been formed and is very corrupt, which makes it very attractive to get into its ranks. )))

[nm76]

And after all, none of the commentators saw the most important thing in this news!
This is a blow, one might even say in the groin of Russia. The ban on Palestinian air defense is a potential impossibility to sell our S400 and Shell shells.
With the ban on creating an army - the same situation, we can not sell them Armata and Boomerangs.
I’m glad that at least not a word about the Palestinian fleet means we’ll sell Varshavyanka, let them swim across the Jordan)))

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: nm76

This is a blow, one might even say in the groin of Russia. The ban on Palestinian air defense is a potential impossibility to sell our S400 and Shell shells.

Are you seriously? Who is there to sell? Gaza Strip look at the map ...

[nm76]

They will have $ 50.000.000.000 and for that kind of money they can even sell an aircraft carrier)))

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: nm76

They will have $ 50.000.000.000 and for that kind of money they can even sell an aircraft carrier

They had SEVERAL lards a year from Saudi Arabia "to fight the Jewish state", and where are they? Except for penny Kalash and RPGs? And the shelling of Israel is carried out by self-made "Qassams" ...

[kiril1246]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And the shelling of Israel is carried out by self-made "Qassams" ...

Outdated information. Palestinians long ago have Grads and Iranian Fajers and Zalzili.

[Pereira]

Good news. Thanks.

[kiril1246]

Quote: nm76

And after all, none of the commentators saw the most important thing in this news!
This is a blow, one might even say in the groin of Russia. The ban on Palestinian air defense is a potential impossibility to sell our S400 and Shell shells.
With the ban on creating an army - the same situation, we can not sell them Armata and Boomerangs.
I’m glad that at least not a word about the Palestinian fleet means we’ll sell Varshavyanka, let them swim across the Jordan)))

You have never sold anything to Palestinians, Syrians, or Egyptians, but only to give.

[3danimal]

We will not sell, but give in a bad loan. Which is as simple as usual. In between, sending SMS money for the operation to another child, for whom no money was found in the budget.

[Operator]

The decision of the UN General Assembly of 1947, repeatedly confirmed by the resolutions of the UN Security Council, including on the part of the United States, established the following borders of the Jewish and Arab states in Palestine, UN mandated territory

Unified and indivisible Jerusalem was defined as an international zone under the control of the UN.

Of course, the Palestinians have every right to sell part of their state for $ 50 billion, but only in this case the decisions of the General Assembly and the UN Security Council will lose their legal force.

[Professor]

Again in a puddle? This resolution was advisory in nature and rejected not by Jews, but by Arabs. We are still waiting for them to recognize this resolution.

[Dimly]

Quote: professor

Again in a puddle? This resolution was advisory in nature and rejected not by Jews, but by Arabs. We are still waiting for them to recognize this resolution.

And bomb them constantly so that you can feel this UN resolution, etc.

[Professor]

Quote: Mutno

Quote: professor

Again in a puddle? This resolution was advisory in nature and rejected not by Jews, but by Arabs. We are still waiting for them to recognize this resolution.

And bomb them constantly so that you can feel this UN resolution, etc.

"constantly" only in response to an attack on us. We never attacked anyone first.

[kiril1246]

Quote: Operator

repeatedly confirmed by UN Security Council resolutions,

Only the Palestinians did not confirm this plan.

[paul3390]

The lands of Palestine should be transferred to Israel, and all Palestinians should be granted American citizenship and transported to America .. I think everyone will agree, except of course America .. But - they wanted the type of peace, here's an option ..

[rocket757]

A good deal from the Yankees, who else believes it to be?

[Dimly]

Quote: rocket757

A good deal from the Yankees, who else believes it to be?

Jews, if only neoliberals ..

[rocket757]

Quote: Mutno

Jews, if only neoliberals ..

This is not even discussed, they are simply an integral part of these plans.

[Magog]

But these are not the same?

[businessv]

Recall that one of the main ideologists of the "deal of the century" is the son-in-law of the American president Jared Kushner.

Oh, well done, you see, a sick soul for Palestine! If minke whales care about foreign territories, then they expect to get good preferences for this! Bismarck also said: if you don’t understand what’s the matter, then it means money!

[Reserve buildbat]

I'd like to ask our respected members of the forum from Israel: And what kind of publication is this with such oh ... what a telling name? For an hour not an analogue of some "national interest"? Painfully delusional fabrications give birth.

[Operator]

Quote: professor

This resolution was advisory in nature.

"... ...", - S. Lavrov (C)

[Dimly]

Do not believe the USA and Israel! Otherwise, you will completely drown in blood and lose everything, nationality too ..

[Nikolaevich I]

I didn’t fully understand: is the rate of Judas' silver coin rising so high or the US dollar “fell in price” a lot? 30 pieces of silver = $ 50 "yards" ... this will be more than the bitcoin rate!

[Operator]

Trump is likely to refuse his proposal for a Israeli deal with Palestine, as he was largely framed by Jewish informers as part of the impeachment process: US Presidential Administration official Alexander Windman and Ukrainian businessmen Lev Lampas and Igor Fruman.

[Krasnodar]

Yes, Edelson, who also sponsored his election, is Kushnir's son-in-law and Jewish grandchildren. Also framed

[Operator]

Windman, Lampas, and Fruman lowered Kushnir's chores into the toilet.

This is already becoming a tradition in the Jewish environment - Zelensky is friends with Bandera in a hickey, then the chief rabbi of Poland excuses Polish anti-Semites.

[kiril1246]

Quote: Operator

the rabbi of Poland otmazyvaet Polish anti-Semites.

In Soviet times, there was such an anti-Zionist committee that periodically scolded Israel, and it was obvious to everyone that the Jews who were in it were doing so in order to externally demonstrate the loyalty of the anti-Semitic CPSU and not to aggravate the situation of Jews in the USSR even worse. So the rabbi of Poland made some statements there so as not to worsen the situation of the few Jews in Poland. It can be understood.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

At the same time, the Palestinian state will be deprived of the right to have its own army, the right to control its airspace - that is, with a complete ban on its own air defense. Border points, based on the transaction, the Arabs also will not be able to control. The United States believes that Palestine will have to transfer this right to Israel.

The USA has mixed up, they want to create for the Palestinians not a state, but a RESERVATION.

I suppose that the Palestinians will refuse and do it right.

[falx]

the "deal" smells very bad, it all reminds me of exchanging land for beads and other junk. vryatli the Palestinians will agree.

[Vitaly gusin]

Yes, relax and do not strain!
The value of this agreement depends on how you can use the paper on which it will all be stated.

[Pereira]

professor (Oleg Sokolov) Let them banyat, but you asked for it yourself.
1. Some on their territory, others on someone else's. /
Russia on its territory - Georgia since 1801 belongs to Russia, Israel to a stranger.
2. Some are fighting Islamic terrorism, others are fighting an independent state.
Israel fights with the defenders of its land, Russia with Islamic and Jewish terrorism.
3. Some are defending, others have attacked an independent state.
Israel attacked an independent state, Russia repels aggression against South Ossetia.
4. Some are armed with non-lethal weapons, while others are lethal.
Is non-lethal weapon AIDS?
5. Some are presented completely in the frame, while others are pre-cut from the overall picture in the name of creating fake coolness.
Yes, it was not worth cutting Palestinians out of the frame.
6. Some have insignia, others are hiding.
Palestinians are not hiding. The Israelis cut them out of the frame.
7. Some do not aim at anyone, others do not know at whom it is aimed.
Israelis aim at those who were cut out of the frame.
8. Some Motherland will never forget, others will never remember.
Yes, we will not forget our heroes. And yours never knew.
9. For some they will give 1024 enemy prisoners for each, others will be redeemed from captivity by their parents.
For one prisoner they gave 1024 hostages. And it is right. We must take more prisoner
10. Some having served will go to study at the university; others, at best, shine the position of a gas station fueler.
Why, of course, to the gas station? Now Israel produces gas on the shelf. Go to the gas water heater.

[Leonid Anatolevich]

Quote: Nyrobsky

And the "deal of the century" offered to the Palestinians in Hebrew means - "Reservation

Reservation is created for indigenous people. They are the indigenous inhabitants of the earth from the Atlantic to Pakistan, never in the history of Palestine existed for Muslims - this is the European word

[Magog]

Indeed, European. In Italy is "Palestine". This name probably appeared in Italy after the XIV century, when the legends about Jesus Christ were brought here under the name of "Pope Hildebrand". It is believed that the Evangelical Christ acts in PALESTINE (in translation it can mean "White Camp" or "Babylonian Camp").

[Magog]

Indeed, European. In Italy is "Palestine". This name probably appeared in Italy after the XIV century, when the legends about Jesus Christ were brought here under the name of “Pope Hildebrand” (“Burning with Gold!” “Son of the Sun”?). It is believed that the Gospel Christ acts in PALESTINE (in translation it can mean "White Camp" or "Babylonian Camp"). Reference: Gregorovius F. “History of the City of Rome in the Middle Ages. From the 1902th to the 1912th century ”. SPb, XNUMX-XNUMX.

[Magog]

"never in history has Palestine existed for Muslims." That's right, because Muslims separated from Christianity when this name was already in circulation (biblical). It is about the times of the beginning of the Great Troubles (end of the 16th century). Modern "Palestine" and "Palestinians" were invented by Europeans on the eve of the so-called. "Napoleon's Egyptian campaign". How did the Muslims end up there - ask Napoleon?

[Leonid Anatolevich]

Quote: Pereira

Georgia belongs to Russia since 1801

No longer belongs to a long time

[Leonid Anatolevich]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

How many Palestinians were killed by the Israelis
turn this land into a blooming garden.

Less than the conquest of Crimea. The assault on Bakhchisarai by the Russian general Lassi cost more peaceful lives than all the commotion with Muslims of B. Vostok

[Magog]

More specifically: at the beginning of the Crimean campaign of Catherine 2 in the Crimean Khanate, there were about 500 thousand inhabitants, at the end - less than 60 thousand

[Magog]

The concept of "Potemkin villages" has taken root in our language, that is, "camouflage", not real housing buildings, etc. In fact, these are the deserted towns and villages of the southern Black Sea region by the time (1787) of the visit of the empress there.

[Shahno]

Quote: MMX

Quote: Krasnodar

Well, yes, Judea and Samaria have nothing to do with the Jews. Pure Arabic name.

Are there any names around the world. Jews lost statehood (read territory) millennia ago, after which this land belonged to others.

Well, fine, now the Jews (Jews) regained their statehood, read the territory, in a much more peaceful way than before some peoples on this earth ...

[Magog]

The fake state, like the history of the "chosen people", declares its rights not only to existence, but also to the territories inhabited by other indigenous peoples. The "Palestinians" were not lucky, unlike the "Mongols." Both those and others were so called in the 19th century.

[Shahno]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

independence of the State of Israel, and on May 15, regular units of the armies of seven LAS countries Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Transjordan attacked Israel, invaded Palestine in order to destroy the new Jewish state and create a “single Arab state formation” in Palestine

You offer me to provide some facts. From my point of view, this is pointless. Anyway until then. until you understand the meaning of the expression - a causal relationship.
The "invasion" of the troops of the countries you listed in Palestine is a consequence. And try to figure out the reasons for yourself, without deceiving yourself.
And it will be easy for you to do this if you introduce yourself as a Palestinian for a while.

Assimilation from your point of view can only be Arabic? And so the Jewish one came. Naturally, the Arab (possibly Muslim) administration is against ... This is money. And people are ordinary, ay, people ...
Yes, it’s not good, for the money to propose an end to the intifad.
It’s good to send them to support the Palestinian prime minister.