Everywhere digitalization. Is Russia ahead of the rest?


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Do you know that your SNILS is now the main identity identifier for most public services? Not a passport or driver’s license number, namely SNILS. Of course, this is largely due to the fact that the SNILS number is lifelong and does not change from birth. Verification by the eleven-digit “pension” number, in particular, takes place in the public service system known to everyone, which has become almost a symbol of Russia's digitalization.

Indeed, living with this service has become much easier: property taxes, fines control and a bunch of useful little things that make it appear that progress is already on the verge. However, this notorious digitalization is often simply imposed on the population. And I'm not talking now about registering a car in the traffic police, when it is cheaper through State Services, but about many functions that have become available only through this service.

What are you talking about? In a number of regions of Russia, they organized electronic journals in schools as pilot projects, while canceling traditional paper journals. The idea, I must say, is very good: parents now almost in online mode can track the progress of their children from smartphones or desktop computers. Now services are being worked out for paying and choosing food for schoolchildren - money for breakfast / lunch now does not need to be carried to school. This, by the way, at least partially solves a huge number of problems. From overpricing in canteens to theft and extortion. But now access to the electronic journal is now possible only through the State Services, nothing more.

Mom (dad) does not have an account in this service, and it will not be possible to find out grades or pay for food. And if you don’t even have a computer, and the phone is a push-button, then you don’t write at all: you can only hope for a good old diary, which seems to be also canceled soon.

If this system is successful in the pilot regions, then such a school digital future awaits us in the near future.

But this is not the last problem. Such projects, at least for now, are possible only in wealthy regions, which may not save on computers for schools. For example, in Moscow suburbs, even in successful schools, you can still be found on Pentium teacher desks, which have a place in the museum. In such cases, it is difficult to dream about the Internet, not to mention systems such as the “electronic school” - the teacher simply will not be able to set grades and write homework. And here the costs of bringing the material base of schools in a normative state far outweigh the price of any digitalization program. This example scales well to other areas: healthcare, industry, and the housing sector.


The recent digitalization of the economy has not particularly simplified registration and reporting procedures for private businesses. Of course, online banking systems have now made the “physical” branches of banks virtually useless - the installation of ATMs in settlements is now sufficient. But, for example, what needs to be done in our era of informatization to register an autonomous non-profit organization? Submit an application to the justice authority (which is usually one for the entire region), wait for registration (at least two weeks), pick up the documents, make a stamp and go to the tax office with three reports and statements. By the way, the tax is good - they have an electronic line-up, a clear sign of the notorious digitalization. After tax with papers to the pension fund, and then to the statistics service. Oh yes, I forgot, all reports can be filled out on special services online, but you need to carry documents to the mentioned offices in printed form. Such is the digitalization, which implies rather large fines in case of delay in reporting. It is now impossible to do this through Gosuslug services, and it is unlikely that it will ever be possible - a lot of people will simply be left without work.

In many ways, the initially good goal of digitalization of the economy and public life is stalling due to the poor preparedness of the population for such changes. Until now, the level of information literacy of some Russians is at a very low level. Try to make an appointment with a scarce doctor through the State Services, come at the appointed time - you will find a long live queue. Do you come up with arguments like "I am emailing" through unhappy old women? And old women, of course, have already been taught on various computer literacy programs for the elderly. Only in the best case, they mastered surfing on the Internet, Skype and text editors. And at worst, in general, all courses turned out to be fictitious, indicated only in reporting.

Briefly summed up, the national project “Digital Economy” really achieved relatively good results - a lot of households appeared in the country with Internet access and digital television, but without gas and water supply.

Finish the first part stories I want on a positive note. Since 2017, all cars produced in the territory of the Customs Union have already been equipped with the Era-GLONASS system on the assembly line - a typical example of our integration into the digital environment. The unit with the SOS button on the ceiling that has become familiar to many in the event of an emergency will help call for help, and in case of an accident it will do this automatically. Here, Russia, indeed, was almost the first in the world to introduce such a progressive system into the series. In Europe, the United States and Japan, something like this is expected for another couple of years. The good idea, which has already helped save at least 1000 lives, reduced the number of victims per accident by 14%, loaded the GLONASS group with work, and allows you to accurately determine the location of any car.

Affordable Internet


During the current year, a new initiative called “Accessible Internet” should take shape, according to which the World Wide Web (or rather, part of it) should become free for the entire population of the country that can use a computer. This is our new breakthrough when, along with free medicine and education, every Russian is guaranteed to be provided with Internet access for free. Given that hospitals and schools are conditionally free, it is expected that access to the World Wide Web will be on the same conditions. Naturally, unlimited access will only be to government services (the “State Services” mentioned above) and “socially oriented domestic services”. In this connection, the President’s Special Representative for Digital and Technological Development Dmitry Peskov mentioned Odnoklassniki, VKontakte, and Yandex, and the Ministry of Communications has already set approximate dates for introducing the innovation - from March 1 of this year. In addition, the category of free resources includes various medical and educational services, as well as the school journals and diaries mentioned above. Can share in the pool and car sharing services, which are now in Russia at the peak of popularity - Moscow, for example, is almost a world leader in this area. On the resource riafan.ru, an approximate list of resources has appeared that may be available with unpaid Internet on a phone or laptop. True, in this case, the principle of working with search engines is not entirely clear. If the link leads to a shareware resource - does the provider block it? In addition, will it not be so that access to non-free resources is restricted? Nevertheless, protectionist policies in any case have their consequences.

Everywhere digitalization. Is Russia ahead of the rest?

According to the Russian businessman in the field of information technology Igor Ashmanov, we are truly among the world leaders in the development of the information space. So, according to him, Europeans and Americans are very surprised at the low prices for the Internet and its availability. And the widespread use of phones to pay for purchases at the checkout is generally looked up with bulging eyes.


Of course, in the program of informatization and digitalization of Russia there are many more positive aspects - for example, just the other day it became known that the Ministry of Internal Affairs for one and a half billion rubles buys domestic software Astra Linux. Of course, these operating systems cannot be called completely domestic, since they are based on the foreign Linux architecture. But the fact that the Russian security forces purchase programs from Russian programmers is already worth a lot. The first, by the way, was the Ministry of Defense, when in 2018 it began to re-equip Astra Linux computers to replace various variations of Windows. Obviously, far from everywhere in the defense department it was possible to do this - in the periphery, Microsoft still rules the ball. Actually, probably, from this we should have started the system project "Digitalization of the economy" - to stimulate, if sometimes artificially, the demand for domestic programs. Indeed, even according to the most conservative estimates, the volume of the Russian software market may reach more than 30 billion rubles. And now we are creating a kind of “sovereign Internet”, allocating a pool of free resources and instant messengers for the population, despite the fact that the vast majority of users (and there are already almost 100 million in Russia) work on foreign software.
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  1. Lexus 27 January 2020 02: 48 New
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    Everywhere digitalization. Is Russia ahead of the rest?

    Control for the sake of control. Stop the Earth ...
    “God, it would be more like a nuclear war!”, Painting, Vasya Lozhkin (Alexey Vladimirovich Kudelin), A wonderful folk artist
    1. Uncle lee 27 January 2020 03: 36 New
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      "Mom! They counted me!"
      Mf "Kid, who could count to ten"
      1. Lexus 27 January 2020 03: 42 New
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        All is well, but in moderation.
        Watch the movie In Time 2011 at your leisure.
        You will not regret. hi
        1. Uncle lee 27 January 2020 03: 43 New
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          I looked yesterday .... hi
          1. Lexus 27 January 2020 04: 26 New
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            I really would not want to make many of the innermost aspects of my life the property of third parties, especially in terms of management. It is fraught.
            1. Uncle lee 27 January 2020 04: 32 New
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              Quote: lexus
              make public

              Even for officials, let alone informal ones, I don’t want to think about it.
              1. GKS 2111 27 January 2020 05: 26 New
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                The initiator and active lobbyist for the introduction of the digital economy in Russia is the global financial institutions (TNB and TNK), the interests of which are the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, being in fact a branch of the IMF and the Fed. It is a mistake to consider the Central Bank of the Russian Federation a state institution - such was the State Bank in Soviet times. Since the 90s, our country has been turned into a colony, including a financial one, Russia, like most countries in the world, does not have financial sovereignty. The looting of our country and the genocide of the Russian people with a variable result has been going on for three decades.
                In a number of developed Western countries, the creation of a single database for all citizens is prohibited by law. However, this fact is stubbornly ignored by the “digital evangelists” in our country. Thus, the disclosure of the term “digital economy” leads us to a genuine, but not declared, ultimate goal - this is total electronic control over all human life, the development of society and the functioning of the state. This creates a serious a threat to both the private life of the citizen and the national security of the country.
                1. Edik 27 January 2020 07: 34 New
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                  Quote: GKS 2111
                  whose interests the Central Bank of the Russian Federation serves, being in fact a branch of the IMF and the Fed.

                  Well let's get yours data lay down on the table!
                  Quote: GKS 2111
                  The initiator and active lobbyist of the introduction of the digital economy in Russia is the global financial institutions (TNB and TNK)

                  More specific can with links?
                  In general, if you think about switching to digital everywhere, it gives huge competitive advantages and savings! On the other hand, it can be used both for a good cause and vice versa winked
                  I think this can not be avoided in the world, since the first to introduce such technologies will receive a powerful advantage over competitors!
                2. andrew42 27 January 2020 12: 36 New
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                  100% agree. With every word of yours.
                3. aiden 29 January 2020 22: 55 New
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                  Fedorov’s commandments are true. He has a lot more
        2. Uncle lee 30 January 2020 12: 24 New
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          Quote: lexus
          You will not regret.

          The film "Anon" is 18 years old. Good too.
    2. Finches 27 January 2020 05: 45 New
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      We are also a happy generation - we wrote letters to each other on paper and sent telegrams of PTA and PMC! We did not meet each other on Skype and could afford to sit all night at the front of her beloved waiting for her, because there were no mobile phones ... A landline phone in the apartment was considered a sign of natural well-being!
      What is there "State Services" is now fashionable to have sex virtually! laughing
      1. GKS 2111 27 January 2020 06: 20 New
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        Quote: Finches
        we wrote letters to each other on paper

        I remember how lucky it was to receive a letter from home in the army! It's just a holiday, re-read the month later!
        "In the first lines of our letter, we hasten to notify, our dear son, that we all thank God that we also wish you ... serve honestly .." etc .... Eh, youth .... hi
        1. Finches 27 January 2020 06: 53 New
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          Serving as an urgent and then in command posts, I participated in such an event as Soldier's Letter Day! hi
      2. Van 16 27 January 2020 06: 33 New
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        New Year's cards! A whole pack of all-different was bought, and one of the evenings was devoted to writing such cards. Pleasant childhood memories ..
        1. solzh 27 January 2020 11: 10 New
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          Quote: Van 16
          New Year's cards! I bought a whole pack of all sorts of different

          good
          Loved holiday cards! They were so beautiful, kind!
          1. Van 16 27 January 2020 11: 58 New
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            Yes! Now Rech publishes sometimes sets of those same cards, one to one.
      3. AU Ivanov. 28 January 2020 11: 23 New
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        And before that they wrote on parchment and birch bark and dabbled in cuneiform. With torches. Ah, what a time it was.
  2. Vladimir_2U 27 January 2020 03: 21 New
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    Almost like in a joke, "On the one hand it’s bad, but on the other it’s good ...", and this cycle can be repeated for a long time.
    1. bessmertniy 27 January 2020 04: 26 New
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      They just started to understand what computer science itself is, and domestic digitalization is coming. Implement a little - you still need to learn how to work in a new way.
  3. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 03: 38 New
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    Well, a small readiness by the way for a small part of the population for digitalization should not be a reason for panic. because in essence they give us tools to improve our lives. just learn to use. how much earlier, for example, did it take to pay bills? and now everything is done quickly and most importantly anywhere. rather than idle at the box office. By the way, electronic magazines and diaries are not a pilot but a working service from the age of 14 everywhere. it’s another matter that some have long passed on to it. and so, by law, from January 1, 2014, paper journals and diaries are replaced with electronic ones. and so on and so forth. this is a new world and you need to learn to live in it.
    1. polar fox 27 January 2020 04: 58 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      Well, a small readiness by the way for a small part of the population for digitalization should not be a reason for panic. because in essence they give us tools to improve our lives.

      og. Especially trade in personal data for everyone.
      1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 05: 20 New
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        I'm talking about normal people and not criminals) of course there will be thefts. but to the average man like me a lot of pluses.
    2. Galleon 27 January 2020 09: 33 New
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      About how to pay enthusiasm is unnecessary - these services are already debugged in the first place and will only improve. And here is how to receive the allowance - so each time bring the paper certificates and a full certified copy of the labor certificate. And you can several times a year in the same place.
      1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 09: 37 New
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        labor from this year paper clean. as for benefits, I made out to my mother in 19, it seems not very hard. In the MFC, she wrote in the queue, she gave everything there. and then she did something in social protection. I collected her documents quickly too. extracts I remember some sort of housing something else ...
      2. IS-80_RVGK2 27 January 2020 09: 58 New
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        Workers are also going to digitize. Sooner or later, sooner rather late, most of the documents will be digitized.
        1. Galleon 27 January 2020 10: 01 New
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          Do you know what labor is there? How many years ago could form 2NDFL be digitized and protected by encoding? Done? How many of these forms are monthly required in Russia? Hundreds of thousands, perhaps. BUT these are not the problems of the sheriff, these are the problems of the Indians.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2 27 January 2020 10: 25 New
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            So I say that rather late than early. Much could have been done 10 years ago. But the inertia of stupid bureaucracy is such.smile
          2. Golovan Jack 1 February 2020 14: 32 New
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            Quote: Galleon
            these are not the problems of the sheriff, these are the problems of the Indians

            I would add - illiterate Indians. Here, read:


            The electronic signature in the 2-NDFL certificate in .pdf format is embedded directly in the document, and for reference in the .xml format it is a separate .p7s file

            Receive, send to the bank ... everything is possible, and for a long time.

            Strange, is not it? wink
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    for 27 January 2020 03: 44 New
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    And when our officials are digitized in Russian social. networks.
  5. Timeout 27 January 2020 04: 21 New
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    Do you know that your SNILS is now the main identity identifier for most public services? Not a passport or driver’s license number, namely SNILS. Of course, this is largely due to the fact that the SNILS number is lifelong and does not change from birth.

    I remember 1998, where all the organizations filled in the data for issuing SNILS, I personally drove everything into a unit of 380 people ... More than 20 years have passed, and there’s no use except scams with private PFs. A huge data center of the Federal Tax Service was created to store these databases, and all this is used at 10% and it is not clear for what purpose.
    1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 04: 50 New
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      Well, the paper passport is also not very useful, but it is needed) but in fact last year, snls was issued for 15-20 minutes on hand and now it is not issued at all, it is only registered. without it, you won’t get any documents at all. this is the identifier. in fact, in addition to the main functions, it gives the state the ability to track not only pensioners but also employees. their number and trends. this is our goals are not very clear and the state is very much the other way around) social insurance card in the states the same garbage)
      1. Timeout 27 January 2020 04: 58 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        social security card in the states the same garbage)

        And there is. But here's an ambush, since 2012, SNILS has been issued to labor migrants. And why is this incomprehensible.
        1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 05: 08 New
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          I say, control over labor) control over the population. sounds scary but it's a necessity nowadays. The desire to drive all information about a person under the full control of the state used to be only in science fiction, but now it is implemented by similar systems. the next step I think the institute of passports will die out.
          1. Same lech 27 January 2020 05: 24 New
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            and now it is implemented by similar systems

            I look at the work of Yandex, Classmates and various antiviruses, etc. ... typical Trojan horses ... they all track and follow the user ... what sites he visits, what he does, the whole circle of friends, relatives and acquaintances of the user in the palm of the eyes of unauthorized persons ... there is no trace of privacy .
            To operas, investigators, fiscals and prosecutors such a vastness ... the people themselves let in all this fraternity, you can tell yourself in bed.
            1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 05: 32 New
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              such a new world) information is the most important asset. as for the security forces there and others ... and they used to follow how they could; just the tools were easier) it does not bother me personally. and probably to any law-abiding person.
              1. Same lech 27 January 2020 05: 34 New
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                it doesn’t bother me personally. and probably to any law-abiding person.

                And it scares me ... although I am also a law-abiding citizen ... for complete information about a person is power over him ... and when information is concentrated in unreliable and unclean hands, wait for trouble.
                1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 05: 41 New
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                  well, personal perception already decides) our children won’t think it will ever worry and will become commonplace.
                  1. Same lech 27 January 2020 05: 44 New
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                    Our children do not have a full-fledged experience in communicating with the Russian authorities ... I have learned a firm rule in my lifetime that it is impossible to trust people who have power over you under any circumstances ... how many times those in power threw and deceived the people of Russia not to count and this is a regularity.
                    1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 06: 02 New
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                      I don’t agree) it’s not life at all when you wait all the time for a trick) you need to live here and now and use what is fully available. looking around all the time is not life but existence. you can’t influence this collection of information anyway) it already exists and will not disappear) whether we want it or not. but this is of course my personal opinion)
                      1. Same lech 27 January 2020 06: 05 New
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                        you still can’t influence this collection of information

                        I can not... smile it’s like getting in the way of the tsunami ... it’s still washed away by a wave of technological progress ... there is only one way to adapt to it and use all its advantages to your advantage ... and for this we must, as the great Lenin bequeathed ... learn to study and study again in spite of age and laziness ... knowledge in various areas of our society helps to make the right decisions and not be at the bottom.
                        And I am always surprised at some people who give up their hands from hopelessness ... you have to fight while you are alive ... nobody on a silver platter will bring you happiness and prosperity in life.
                      2. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 06: 14 New
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                        exactly! all the more so it’s cool to learn new things) and it’s necessary, because my elder, for example, will soon overtake dad)))) dad we go to the cinema, I already bought tickets on the site. and I'm sitting there studying the repertoire as I used to))))
              2. Ross xnumx 27 January 2020 05: 50 New
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                Quote: The same Lech
                And it scares me ... although I am also a law-abiding citizen ... for complete information about a person is power over him ...and when information is concentrated in unreliable and unscrupulous hands, wait for trouble.

                It is for this reason that the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty for certain types of crimes does not find support.
                I want to note that your remark about unreliable and unclean hands is more than timely; Something recently a bit too much of them divorced in Russia, however, like “Cephalopods” ... “bald-headed” ... “castrolegol”... never found a suitable name for this head shape ...
                1. andrew42 27 January 2020 12: 32 New
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                  In fact, everything is simpler and .. worse. Add all the information about the citizen, all the controls behind him into one array - and there will be "unclean hands" right away.
            2. region58 27 January 2020 22: 48 New
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              Quote: carstorm 11
              it doesn't bother me personally

              Quote: The same Lech
              full information about a person is power over him ...

              Whatever we are law abiding, but we are not perfect. It happens and conceal something, on trifles, for the good, so to speak ... and sometimes the truth is such that it is better to remain silent ... and nobody has canceled curiosity - that's why we are people. And the information can be presented in different ways.

              PS Not so long ago, people dreamed about video telephones - they wrote about them in all the fantastic works. And so it happened. It would seem - use it. However, no. We use video calling very limitedly. Including because you can’t say that you’re stuck in traffic, when in fact you stupidly decided to sleep longer.
          2. The popuas 27 January 2020 07: 06 New
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            Yesterday I talked with my wife that we need to clear the arches in the car from the ice, the wheels are rustling! I went to read the car wash advertisement! The Internet was off on the phone, her phone was in another room request
            1. Edik 27 January 2020 07: 45 New
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              Quote: Popuas
              I went to read the car wash advertisement! The Internet was off on the phone, her phone was in another room

              There is laughter and sin! The materialization of your desires! Do not think, they have already thought for you wink
          3. Edik 27 January 2020 07: 43 New
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            To operas, investigators, fiscals and prosecutors such a vastness ... the people themselves let in all this fraternity, you can tell yourself in bed.

            Well, they don’t need you! Here the country was overwhelmed with false calls about the explosive devices laid in, they can’t cope with this disaster! This is how the country can be milked.
            1. Grandfather Crimea 27 January 2020 09: 28 New
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              I have a godson programmer. While I studied where I was not registered in the networks .... And when I went to work, I began to travel to Europe. I looked at my tail. There are no pictures anywhere, minimum information, everywhere is encrypted. What is it for?
              1. aiden 29 January 2020 23: 05 New
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                If there is access to state secrets (either works at closed or defense enterprises) and leaves without coordination, then he does the right thing that he does not advertise (although the security officers know anyway). If he does something illegal against the United States, then he also does the right thing, then the Americans will get pens anywhere
              2. vindigo 30 January 2020 09: 14 New
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                Just grew out of it. No time for social. network. Me too.
            2. Same lech 27 January 2020 09: 40 New
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              Then the country was overwhelmed with false calls about the explosive devices laid in, not how they can not cope with this disaster!

              This happens every day ... a shaft of false calls is usually organized from abroad ... that’s where the problem is ... for example, our security forces and lawyers cannot reach the Netherlands. hi
              My city is regularly in fever from this outrage.
          4. Grandfather Crimea 27 January 2020 09: 21 New
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            When they simply spy, we don’t feel it (advertising is imposed, it’s as if omitted), but this information, data can be used just in case ...
            But you can also “block” it in case, for example, you haven’t paid it, don’t pay off your debts, and if your views diverge from the “general line.” This is a two-edged sword, how and who will use it. To prevent the electronic concentration camp))))
            1. Varyag71 27 January 2020 11: 29 New
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              They want this. At the touch of a finger there is no person. No surname, no name, no accounts, no real estate, no passport, nothing at all. As if there was no man.
  • rocket757 27 January 2020 05: 14 New
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    Everything has an external and reverse side.
    This cannot be undone now, it can be used, but not carried away by the substitution of everything else.
    In general, everyone will be there, gradually.
    1. cloud catcher 27 January 2020 07: 20 New
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      Efficiency, accessibility and convenience of data for everyday tasks, on the one hand. The lack of a right to privacy, all your actions will be known, this is the second. No, of course, there is a right, but what will it turn into if in the near future they want to combine all the basic documents (SNILS, passport, driver’s license, etc.) into one. It seems to be convenient, practicality and fewer numbers to keep in mind. But, another point, if a bank card is built in there, it will be total control over the person. An example was stopped by a traffic police officer who looked at the law and was fined right away, but it will be more difficult to prove it wrong. Or the money will be automatically, remotely debited when entering certain establishments, etc. If you intentionally or accidentally delete / modify data, you are cut off from the outside world.
  • Ross xnumx 27 January 2020 05: 27 New
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    I don’t know what is meant by the digitalization of the economy in a single Russia, but in the eighties of the last century, 2 people + a cashier worked in accounting, and today 5 + a cashier ...
    Such a reorganization of computational processes is not weak and the transition from counting with knuckles and “Felixes” to computer programs and peripherals ...
    hi
    1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 05: 40 New
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      Well, this is the scourge of modern business in Russia) with a creak, the transition to new technologies) it’s easier for them to leave everything as before than if they themselves can’t even use outsourcing as a temporary measure. thereby stopping in development. Digitalization of information is the same extra investment) it is better to make people work like in the Stone Age)
      1. Svarog 27 January 2020 07: 49 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        Well, this is the scourge of modern business in Russia) with a creak, the transition to new technologies) it’s easier for them to leave everything as before than if they themselves can’t even outsource

        This is the reality of the modern economy in Russia .. and not a scourge .. business is forced to maintain a whole staff of accountants ...
        1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 08: 04 New
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          why?))) outsourcing solves this problem completely. the more so, working on modern technologies, the staff is large and not needed at all.
          1. Svarog 27 January 2020 08: 30 New
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            why?))) outsourcing solves this problem completely.

            Outsourcing does not solve anything .. not everyone entrusts their business to a bookkeeper that they don’t know ... Business in Russia has many secrets.
            1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 08: 43 New
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              I’ll give you the calculation from the presentation now and then think for yourself.
              The Russian market for outsourcing is growing even faster. Who cares - Expert RA publishes annual rankings of accounting companies. But young technology companies such as Buttons, My Business or Finguru forced traditional outsourcers to go online, offer new services and expand the range of tariffs. We also had to bounce and make an online service. In 2019, an accounting company = an IT company. No other way. Service quality growth. Clients are increasingly relying on outsourcers, allowing them to reengineer their accounting processes. This allows you to gain experience in effective change management and improve the quality of services.
              1. solzh 27 January 2020 11: 17 New
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                The Russian market for outsourcing is growing even faster.

                It can grow as much as you like, but no one can replace a professional accountant. I’ve been working in this field for 20 years and believe me, outsourcing will not be able to solve highly specialized problems at the enterprise. And not everyone will pull the cost of outsourcing services.
                1. carstorm 11 27 January 2020 11: 33 New
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                  c'mon) outsourcing for small and medium-sized businesses is profitable) the price is fixed. no premiums or deductions. allowances. no decrees or sick leave. 24 hours a day online. The packages are convenient and varied. no errors and puffs. at a modern pace, it solves. How do I find good? spend months interviewing? or take a cat in a bag and then fire? and with good things now, believe me)
    2. samarin1969 27 January 2020 06: 42 New
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      I don’t know what is meant by the digitalization of the economy in a single Russia, but in the eighties of the last century, 2 people + a cashier worked in accounting, and today 5 + a cashier ...


      So people came to power with a “legal accounting” fetish. Thousands of rules have been invented with thousands of exceptions, an abyss of "reporting forms" and ruled by the "uninitiated". There is no "1C" will not save. Since the time of Kosygin, they tried to fight the "number of indicators". And until now, everyone is ruled by "lords of dusty buttocks."
      1. Ross xnumx 27 January 2020 08: 10 New
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        Quote: samarin1969
        people with a legal accounting fetish. Thousands of rules have been invented with thousands of exceptions, an abyss of "reporting forms" and ruled by the "uninitiated".

        Exceptionally correct thoughts. It seems to me that the laws we are creating are not for people and for people, but for the development of structures from the Bar Association.
    3. Svarog 27 January 2020 07: 48 New
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      at the enterprise in the eighties of the last century 2 people + cashier worked in accounting, and today 5 + cashier ...

      That you just noticed good hi
    4. Boris55 27 January 2020 08: 16 New
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      but at the enterprise in the eighties of the last century

      And in the 60s of the last century, the Central Committee was scared by a punched card, such as what it would replace the Central Committee. As a result of this diversion, our computerization began only with perestroika - maybe they destroyed the USSR thanks to their computers? Thank God that the military did not fall for this stupidity.

      The same thing applies to numbers today. Progress cannot be stopped. It can only be slowed down, resulting in being behind the entire planet, which happened in the last century ...

      Global historical process (a bit about science fiction):
      - primitive communal system - the concentration of the productive forces of one community;
      - feudal system - the concentration of the productive forces of several communities:
      - capitalism - industrialization, to increase the rate of exchange of the product of labor;
      - Digitalization - increasing the rate of exchange of information about a product (where, how much, why);
      - the next stage - anti-gravity machines, houses, enclaves (unlinking the productive forces from the place of residence. People live where there is a need for this;
      - the next stage - increasing the rate of exchange of products (teleportation);
      - the next stage is spacewalk, the development of nearby planets, etc.
    5. Mestny 27 January 2020 09: 14 New
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      And they wrote on paper by hand.
      But...
      The result of the work of enterprises in the eighties is empty store shelves.
      Maybe you should add a couple of accountants?
      I’m absolutely sure that if this digitalization and developed means of communication were in the USSR, he wouldn’t go anywhere, but really would flourish. For a socialist planned economy, this would be a real panacea.
      This is what I am for. It was not worth declaring cybernetics a pseudoscience.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2 27 January 2020 10: 18 New
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        And they wrote on paper by hand.
        But...
        The result of the work of enterprises in the eighties is empty store shelves.
        Maybe you should add a couple of accountants?
        I’m absolutely sure that if this digitalization and developed means of communication were in the USSR, he wouldn’t go anywhere, but really would flourish. For a socialist planned economy, this would be a real panacea.
        This is what I am for. It was not worth declaring cybernetics a pseudoscience.

        Judging by the fact that it became known about the economy of the USSR, everything was somewhat more complicated there. And digitalization (a stupid word) would not really help.
        1. Mestny 27 January 2020 10: 39 New
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          Well, why?
          The basis of the Soviet economy was central planning. How can this process be effectively implemented with the then existing means of communication and information processing?
          That is, the principle itself is excellent, but at a much more advanced technical level. The USSR tried too early.
          That is, digitalization brings us closer to a planned economy.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2 27 January 2020 11: 44 New
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            There were other problems there. Control and stimulation.
  • samarin1969 27 January 2020 06: 00 New
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    Services are definitely convenient: paid taxes, got rights, certificates ...
    But now society is becoming open, and power is tightly closed. And the matter is not in “justice” - it was not and never will be. The problem is in whose hands the "buttons"? As a naive person, these "users of management information" are little understood.
  • parusnik 27 January 2020 06: 26 New
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    And old women, of course, have already been taught on various computer literacy programs for the elderly.
    .... And old women with a pension of 17 thousand. Another iPhone or phone should be 12 thousand and connected to the Internet ..
    1. Mestny 27 January 2020 09: 15 New
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      No, old women shouldn’t.
      All this digitalization is designed for future generations.
      What would it really work in the future - you need to start now.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2 27 January 2020 10: 21 New
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        All this digitalization is designed for future generations.

        And here the hell. It already works here and now. Further, of course, there will be much more interesting, but much is already there and will be soon.
      2. andrew42 27 January 2020 12: 16 New
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        I do not know. As for future generations. Judging by the jumps of our Unknown and famous fathers around the “grail of digitalization”, they absolutely need total fiscal and social control over the citizen. When caring for the standard of living of this citizen, he is modestly silent. So there can be no “future generations” that joyfully use the good fruits of digitalization (in the true sense indicated above), or they will be “not our” generations, but someone else's. Today's direct impact of "universal gadgetization" (as one of the significant factors, but really significant) on demography is obvious.
  • Loess 27 January 2020 08: 23 New
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    As a user of most of these electronic services (a forced user), I can say that the author’s skepticism has practically no foundation. The only electronic service that makes me negative is an electronic appointment with a doctor - I have never managed to make an appointment. Well, in the traffic police the queue for electronic recording is large, but people have found a way out - they are recorded for the time that is offered, but they go on the next day when there is time in the general queue and receive the promised discounts on services. Most of the rest, listed by the author, works without failures and saves a lot of time. even taking into account the fact that sometimes understanding all of this is rather difficult.

    Such projects, at least for now, are possible only in wealthy regions,
    I’m just writing from a region that no one has ever called wealthy anywhere.
    1. Mestny 27 January 2020 09: 20 New
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      I completely agree.
      Quote: Less
      Well, in the traffic police the queue for electronic recording is large, but people have found a way out - they are recorded for the time that is offered, but they go on the next day when there is time in the general queue and receive the promised discounts on services.

      This is still MUCH better than the live queue. Who was there is the one to agree.
      And about accessibility for grandmothers, like that someone complained above.
      For example, we have such a special service center where a person who is absolutely not related to computers comes to, and specialists create an account for him and do all the work with the State Service portal or the Federal Tax Service, for example.
      This is still significantly faster and more convenient than rushing through different institutions.
      1. Boris55 27 January 2020 09: 45 New
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        And about accessibility for grandmothers, like that someone complained above.

        But grandfathers with a computer for you, you can judge about it even by those present at this forum, and grandparents had to worry about grandfathers at the time, and how they raised their grandchildren so did they. laughing
        1. Mestny 27 January 2020 09: 51 New
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          It's about people who are over 70. There are a lot of them, but for the most part they’re too late to master computers. Not everyone, of course. There are some advanced ones.
          All this is designed for future generations. But you need to start now. Which we are observing.
  • bober1982 27 January 2020 09: 44 New
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    Russia cannot be ahead of the rest in matters of digitalization, since there are supranational standards, and Russia only fulfills their requirements.
    All numbered sheep are literally driven into a digital concentration camp.
    1. Mestny 27 January 2020 09: 46 New
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      For you there is a special cartoon "Goat, who knew how to count to ten."
      There, in an accessible form, Soviet children are explained why digitalization is needed, and what will happen if it is not implemented.
      1. bober1982 27 January 2020 09: 52 New
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        For you there is a special cartoon "Goat, who knew how to count to ten"

        I remember him well, were able to do.
        We will not despair, we will not run through caches, forests and catacombs.
        Take cards: you have not yet been asked about your faith and are not forced to deny God.
        1. Mestny 27 January 2020 09: 56 New
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          This is useless.
          It's just that we are witnessing an inevitable process in general in the world of the next intellectual unification of man. What language and writing once became. Now here it is, a new stage.
          A person is so arranged, he straying into groups makes everything much more successful than alone.
          The result of the development of communication tools and interfaces may become a single intellectual space in some areas.
          In the distant future of course.
          Yes, such a person will now seem to many to be terrible zombies under the control of certain intellectual forces, but exactly the same once seemed like typography.
          1. bober1982 27 January 2020 10: 05 New
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            The result of the development of communication tools and interfaces may become a single intellectual space in some areas.

            It will not ... in some areas, but .... a totalitarian digital society, without any national borders.
            1. Boris55 27 January 2020 10: 25 New
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              totalitarian digital society, without any national borders

              Any double-edged sword, any two-sided medal.

              Above, I laid out the course of the global historical process (I forgot to mention the slave system). It is impossible to stop, but to brake - yes.

              When the West moved on to more advanced forms of production and its exchange, Christianity was introduced in Russia, which entailed a civil war, called the "Tatar-Mongol yoke", which slowed down evolutionary development for 300 years, then when the west passed to capitalism we were kept for 300 years in serfdom ...

              Today, for the first time, after the Stalin era, we have a chance to be really ahead of the rest. No need to interfere.

              ps
              About the borders. I am for their cancellation. All people, without any visas, must have the right to travel around the planet. The figure is a step in that direction.
              1. Mestny 27 January 2020 10: 36 New
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                There really is one unpleasant nuance. Humanity for self-development requires competition within the species. It is known that it is realized precisely through the rivalry of states up to and including wars.
                So complete globalization is likely to mean the end of development.
                1. Boris55 27 January 2020 10: 37 New
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                  So complete globalization is likely to mean the end of development.

                  No. The priorities of competition will simply change. Pass from the plane how to destroy each other in the plane, how to live with each other.

                  Globalization (the distribution of labor, as the most effective way of managing) is an objective process and it began with the meeting of Adam with Eve. Adam became a breadwinner, Eve became a keeper of a hearth, etc.
                  1. bober1982 27 January 2020 11: 03 New
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                    Quote: Boris55
                    Globalization

                    Quote: Boris55
                    - the process is objective and it began with the meeting of Adam with Eve. Adam became a breadwinner, Eve became a keeper of the hearth

                    You, Boris, improved your mood, very funny, distracted from gloomy thoughts about universal digitization.
                    1. Boris55 27 January 2020 12: 56 New
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                      You, Boris, have improved your mood, very funny,

                      Do you remember what happened to the Russian economy when in the 90s all production ties (labor distribution) that existed in the USSR were destroyed? Are you still funny?
  • Varyag71 27 January 2020 10: 02 New
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    This is where we have free medicine and education?
    1. andrew42 27 January 2020 12: 24 New
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      As where? - In the reports, in the Kremlin! More precisely, in analytical reports to the president, and possibly in the program documents of the EP assemblies.
  • vka
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    not an article but a whole tragedy, if only I would have understood in this .......
  • andrew42 27 January 2020 12: 04 New
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    The so-called "digitalization of the economy" is a brazen excuse for the impotent socio-economic bloc of the bourgeois government. It has a very mediocre attitude to the real economy, but it is a direct and immediate relation to Digital slavery. Take, for example, the fact that there is no domestic element base and technologies for the production of components of digital technology - this is essentially not the case, but in “Digitalization” it turns out to be! Where are the Russian processors, boards / cards, microcircuits of the modern generation? -Ah! Secondly, the digitalization of management (not the economy, namely management, and not only the economy) is an exclusively auxiliary tool, the algorithms for the functioning of the economic system are much higher. A poor economy, where the production of real goods by cutting-edge technologies is directly crushed - even if it’s digitalized before the clave clicks — the real economy will not grow from this. For the removal of responsibility from functionaries - this is the full program, for example: there are no places in the electronic line to the doctor - beauty! - the answer is negative, - no need to deny a person’s eyes, look for excuses, arguments. Everything is simple! - The digital economy does not allow! Are you against the Digital Economy? - Retrograde! Old school! Loser forever! So it turns out that the term "digital economy" does not mean an economic development tool, but digital slavery, total control over a citizen reduced to a "digitized object", and like a cherry on a cake, control over the last penny and peeled sheep’s wallets.
  • andrew42 27 January 2020 12: 40 New
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    “A kid who knew how to count to 10” is still a kid because he “forgot” to tell one important thing to the entire bestial society - why did he count them! According to the logic of things, after a goat’s labors, the farmyard should not count several goals. From the fact that Kozlyonok worked “blindly” on the owner of the livestock, from this he no less imposted, but more :))
  • 123456789 27 January 2020 12: 54 New
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    Briefly summed up, the national project “Digital Economy” really achieved relatively good results - a lot of households appeared in the country with Internet access and digital television, but without gas and water supply.

    Not finding wire in the caves of Neanderthals, British scientists came to the conclusion that they used wireless Internet
  • Andrey Zhukov 27 January 2020 14: 34 New
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    Very shameful, engaged article. It looks like a lobbying craft.
    An attempt, by hook or by crook, to shove the task of building an aircraft carrier in the Procrustean bed of opportunities for the Baltic plant (and only it!). And for this, even worsening its size and, accordingly, TTX!
    And this despite the fact that there is a Star with an almost ready large dry dock (for rent this year), huge cranes for large-site assembly, the absence of restrictions on the completion and withdrawal of ships (as in St. Petersburg) and, therefore, the need to limit tonnage and performance characteristics. + plans for the construction of a local steel mill. Shipyard personnel are actively replenished, the Chinese are participating in the construction of the shipyard, which speeds up the process. And the Far East needs to be developed, jobs created there. Near Korea and China, you can attract them to help in the construction.
    I’m silent about the docks in Severodvinsk and in Kerch.
  • iouris 29 January 2020 12: 25 New
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    "If your elite keeps their money in our banks, educates and educates their children at our universities, uses our" hard "and our" software ", then this is not your elite, but ours." (***)
  • seacap 2 February 2020 11: 51 New
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    The issue of total control of all aspects of each person’s personal life, without exception, is not even compounded by the so-called control. of our leadership, whose behavior and actions are more similar to the actions of the colonial administration of another power, with the same contemptuous and arrogant attitude towards the people as the overseas metropolis, and most importantly, it is persistently and steadily, with manic efforts, is introduced as directed and for the sake of interests of a hostile power. You will be convinced of this when you see how and by whom these overseas instructions are carried out, the Central Bank, its unit Sberbank with its chief innovator, who jumps out of his pants for the sake of this, HSE, etc. are all tools of external neocolonial management.