Chinese coronavirus: truth and myths


Disturbing news comes from China these days. The infectious outbreak that occurred in December in the central province of China - Hubei, turned out to be a new kind of coronavirus, more precisely, its variant that was not previously transmitted to people. And, therefore, there are no ways to treat this infection. The outbreak gradually grew into a full-fledged epidemic, frightening with its dynamics.


Doctors can't stop a new virus


On Wednesday, the Hubei Provincial Health Committee, where the outbreak was registered, issued a statement to the press: on January 22, from midnight to 20:00, sixty-nine new infections were detected in the province, eight people died in that time.


On the morning of Friday, the mournful list expanded to 26 people, to 876 the number of people infected with pneumonia caused by the new type of coronavirus 2019-nCoV increased. According to doctors, 177 of them are in serious condition.

The Chinese authorities are taking unprecedented measures in connection with the epidemic. On Wednesday, they decided to quarantine the capital of Hubei - Wuhan, and then another ten cities of this province (Huangang, Ezhou, Xiantao, Chibi and others). However, coronavirus has already gone around the country and around the world. Myths and rumors crawled with him: "the secret development of the Chinese military that went beyond the laboratory," "the secret development of the US military," sprayed "in China," the blow of US intelligence to China as part of a trade war - to buy less in the world Chinese goods, "etc.

On Wednesday, an 80-year-old patient died in a hospital in the northern (border with Russia) Hebei province in Suihua City. The old man was staying with relatives in Wuhan. Upon returning home, he turned to doctors for help. They were powerless before the 2019-nCoV virus diagnosed in the patient.

It has been discovered in twenty-five provinces of China. A new type of coronavirus has been detected in Shanghai, Tianjin, Chongqing, Jiangxi, Guangdong, Zhejiang, and other million-plus cities. 2019-nCoV was also noted on the world map - in Thailand, Vietnam, the Republic of Korea, Singapore, the USA and Japan.

Doctors cannot stop the spread of coronavirus yet. However, the World Health Organization has refrained from declaring an international emergency due to an outbreak of pneumonia in China. WHO, based on truthful facts, not myths, makes a prediction: the peak of the disease caused by 2019-nCoV will occur in mid-February. Then the epidemic will decline.

How to cancel the New Year


A similar opinion is shared by the State Duma deputy, the former chief sanitary doctor of the Russian Federation Gennady Onishchenko. On the NTV television channel, he urged viewers not to panic. Hundreds of people in the multi-million-dollar city of Wuhan are hundreds, and even the flu epidemic "sweeps away everything." In addition, the vaccine will help defeat the coronavirus, however, "today it is difficult to understand whom to vaccinate."

However, Onishchenko acknowledged the seriousness of the situation. Especially in connection with the upcoming celebration of China's new year. It was supposed to go from January 25 to February 1. By tradition, the Chinese celebrate the New Year with their families. Multimillion-strong human flows could spread the infection further not only across the country, but also around the world. Realizing this, the Chinese authorities canceled the celebration of the New Year. How effective their measure will be will be seen in the coming days.

Without mysticism and conspiracy theories


In the new century, the world has repeatedly faced the threat of a pandemic. Atypical viral pneumonia, Ebola, swine and bird flu pop up. Now the coronavirus 2019-nCoV. Persons prone to mysticism and conspiracy theories have already given their assessment of the situation in the Networks: these are viruses that developed in military laboratories got out of control.

Scientists look at the problem easier. The truth is that in the new century, the mobility of people has increased dramatically. While traveling around the world, they began to spread the natural viruses familiar to their habitat. The viruses themselves in this new turnover for them mutate, change their qualities and begin to infect people, including Aboriginal places of natural origin of this infection. The situation is aggravated by a low hygienic culture.

So it was with Ebola, when viruses spread among bats got to people through the poorly fried meat of these animals. Similar история occurred in China. The source of the 2019-nCoV coronavirus outbreak, according to Chinese authorities, was a market in Wuhan.

As you know, the Chinese have very wide gastronomic preferences. So in the market in Wuhan, bats were also sold. Authorities now say that wildlife trade was illegal.

Now it has been banned, suspecting that the virus came into circulation through this trade, and then passed on to the person. Now people are advised to “not touch animals, avoid undercooked or undercooked meat and eggs, and avoid contact with people with symptoms of the common cold or flu.”

Measures seem to have been taken, but the world is worried. The head of the WMA World Medical Doctors Union Leonid Eidelman predicts a global epidemic for us. “We know that in the next few years, a large epidemic threatens the world. It will be some new virus. We do not yet know which, perhaps, it will be one of the coronaviruses. They pass like a common cold with a runny nose and cough. But viruses change, mutate. One of the changes in 2003 triggered a severe epidemic called SARS. The virus caused pneumonia, there were deaths. The virus then also came from China. Another manifestation of this virus was in the Middle East - it was called MERS from the word Middle East.", - quotes the doctor RIA News.

Adelman’s concerns are shared by many virologists. Today, laboratories in the world are proactively developing new types of vaccines. With their help, scientists want to protect people from a possible epidemic. As for today, optimism inspires the position of WHO. The World Organization does not yet see big problems for the world due to the new coronavirus 2019-nCoV.
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  1. rocket757 24 January 2020 15: 01 New
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    the peak of the disease caused by 2019-nCoV will occur in mid-February. Then the epidemic will decline.

    You always hope that the scale of the "Spanish epidemic, in the 20th century, will not reach !!!
    1. Svarog 24 January 2020 15: 04 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      You always hope that the scale of the "Spanish epidemic, in the 20th century, will not reach !!!

      Yes, sometimes it becomes scary .. in our city of Chelny, this autumn a lot of people died of pneumonia, young people .. I personally know about two cases, in the first one a young mother, my daughter goes to her kindergarten and the second husband I know .. It all starts like an ordinary cold .. and progresses very quickly ..
      I am sure that most viruses are removed in laboratories .. Russia is surrounded by these bases around the perimeter ..
      1. rocket757 24 January 2020 15: 11 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        I am sure that most viruses are removed in laboratories .. Russia is surrounded by these bases around the perimeter ..

        Any infection is also a weapon. Sophisticated, merciless .... you just have to wonder how often Hollywood and the like make films about IT !!! Why, why? just like study guides, for later, when it happens! STRANGE THIS!
      2. carstorm 11 24 January 2020 15: 19 New
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        pneumonia is a terrible thing. 4th place among all diseases by mortality. he was ill on his feet barely pumped out. everyone thought the most common cold until it was cut off. Well, who nowadays runs to the doctors with a cold ...
        1. bk316 24 January 2020 15: 57 New
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          pneumonia is a terrible thing.

          Scary horror ash laughing
          I was sick four times belay
          1. carstorm 11 24 January 2020 16: 20 New
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            Well, for example, in the year 14, almost forty thousand people died from her in Russia. so consider you a lucky person
            1. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 16: 30 New
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              Quote: carstorm 11
              Well, for example, in the year 14, almost forty thousand people died from her in Russia

              if you don’t treat it, you can also get rid of an ordinary splinter
              1. carstorm 11 24 January 2020 16: 32 New
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                so the trouble is that you must identify it first. I ran to pulmonary edema. Well, I think it got cold and okay. not the first time. and woke up in intensive care.
                1. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 16: 44 New
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                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  so the trouble is that you must identify it first

                  Well, who is to blame for you ?!
                  it is revealed quite simply
                  1. carstorm 11 24 January 2020 17: 02 New
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                    yes who argues. only I, with a cold, like doctors, I’m not used to walking like that. but for example, infant mortality from it is generally terrible. annually about a million children under 5 die. now read even ofigel.
                    1. bk316 24 January 2020 17: 09 New
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                      yes who argues. I’m not used to walking with a cold as a doctor

                      IN! You yourself understand everything, but for those who do not understand, I wrote

                      If you do not get vaccinated, eat medication for each case, self-medicate and be overweight, the probability of dying even from the usual flu is quite considerable ....


                      By the way, the first time I was sick at 3 months of age and the fourth was in the army.
                      Understandably, the business in the army was launched and was harder than in infancy.
                      And such mortality in babies, because
                      - everything is developing much faster
                      - can't really say anything
                2. PSih2097 25 January 2020 19: 18 New
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                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  so the trouble is that you must identify it first. I ran to pulmonary edema.

                  Well, now, in a couple of days, acute respiratory infections can degenerate into pneumonia / pleurisy, and even into pneumonia ...
                  in our city the virus periodically runs - during the course of 40 days Celsius and a very strong general weakness - treatment for two weeks with tablets of about 10 000 rub (if you inject yourself, then somewhere around 7 000 - 8 000).
        2. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 16: 29 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          pneumonia is a terrible thing. 4th place among all diseases by mortality. he was ill on his feet barely pumped out.

          and as a child I was sick 6 times, still live from grade 4 I have never been sick
          1. Private-K 25 January 2020 01: 05 New
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            Not. You were ill. But due to the characteristics of your body, the disease went in a latent form without pronounced symptoms.
            1. Barmaleyka 25 January 2020 07: 35 New
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              you treated me to talk about symptoms and about the hidden form
              1. Private-K 25 January 2020 09: 35 New
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                I have a lot of life experience. And I know the three of you - including my closest comrade, who also never had a cold. And then he ended up with pneumonia in intensive care. There they explained to him ...
                1. Barmaleyka 25 January 2020 09: 47 New
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                  you have experience and others went out to drink tea, once again I did not get sick believe me
                  1. Private-K 25 January 2020 10: 51 New
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                    I wish you health.
        3. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 16: 36 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          pneumonia is a terrible thing. 4th place among all diseases by mortality. he was ill on his feet barely pumped out.

          the first pneumonia, pneumonia, strife, pneumonia is a complication in certain diseases, including the heart, followed by swelling and death, it seems like he died from pneumonia, but in reality it’s not so
        4. Catfish 24 January 2020 16: 42 New
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          I don’t know, I was ill in the first year of my military service at Bikinsky school, the consequences of going to the "girls" on New Year's Eve. In the hospital they stabbed his whole ass, but the attitude to this, anyway, was not serious, either in his youth, or now something has changed dramatically with this "sore."
      3. depressant 24 January 2020 15: 20 New
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        For a long time, back in Soviet times, in the town where I lived then, a mumps epidemic broke out. Mass disease! Everyone was sick - children and adults, but adults suffered harder. The children all recovered, and several adults died. An ambulance rushed from house to house. Moved the pig and I. I’ll tell you so, colleagues, there is nothing more disgusting than this disease. Faces, no neck, continuous swelling, terrible pain. And so far I can’t understand what it was. There was nothing in neighboring villages, nothing in the Union, but we had an epidemic, and such institutions did not work.
        1. rocket757 24 January 2020 17: 31 New
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          Quote: depressant
          A long time ago, in Soviet times, in the town where I lived then, a mumps epidemic broke out

          "floated" we know ... since then, the smell of camphor cannot stand the spirit! The association of the worshiper turned out to be painful.
        2. Ge⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣o 25 January 2020 00: 09 New
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          Quote: depressant
          There was nothing in the neighboring villages, nothing in the Union, but we had an epidemic,

          Well, that means the sanitary services worked, stopping the epidemic on time within your community. In alliance with these matters, it was generally serious - dignity. epidemic. the case was delivered extremely efficiently. Even now, by inheritance, our sanitary services can work well.
      4. bk316 24 January 2020 16: 03 New
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        us in N. Chelny, this fall a lot of people died from pneumonia, young people ..

        If you do not get vaccinated, eat medication for each case, self-medicate and be overweight, the probability of dying even from the usual flu is quite considerable ....
        1. Svarog 24 January 2020 16: 14 New
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          Quote: bk316
          us in N. Chelny, this fall a lot of people died from pneumonia, young people ..

          If you do not get vaccinated, eat medication for each case, self-medicate and be overweight, the probability of dying even from the usual flu is quite considerable ....

          Looking from what to be vaccinated. Is there a vaccine for pneumonia? And about drugs and vaccinations, I have my own story. He lived in Moscow, we were regularly vaccinated against the flu at work, and it’s amazing how they will get the vaccine. This year I’m seriously ill. After all, they often don’t guess with the strain .. they predict one, but in reality the other. I quit giving me flu shots and is still carrying it .. I don’t know where the truth is, on the one hand, can a farm company make money this way? On the other hand, you understand that vaccination is necessary .. well, at least earlier. And this year, before the new year, I became seriously ill, so I prescribed the procedures and the course of antibiotics to inject, the nurse who injected herself from BSMP and says that a little bit, all the doctors have antibiotics for themselves at once .. and they tell us , you don’t need to do this, they say, until it gets really bad .. So it's not clear ..
          1. Altona 24 January 2020 16: 45 New
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            they have all the doctors immediately inject antibiotics themselves ..

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            Come on? Antibiotics are not a harmless thing at all, along with harmful sweeps and beneficial microflora. And in the human body, not all microorganisms are harmful, there are a lot of useful ones. This is then three months later you need to drink kefir in liters, no alcohol and other measures to save health.
            1. Svarog 24 January 2020 16: 50 New
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              Quote: Altona
              This is then three months later you need to drink kefir in liters, no alcohol and other measures to save health.

              Yes, I did laughing
              And on the account is not safe, of course you are right. But when there is a suspicion of the possibility of serious complications, you need to prick .. at least, as the nurse told me, they do everything like that .. It is clear that you need to understand the reason, if the disease is of a viral nature, then antibiotics are useless, but just before the moment the virus does not cause complications and the “bad” microbes begin to multiply and then an antibiotic is needed. I started bronchitis and if it weren’t for injections, it is possible that pneumonia could have happened.
              1. Altona 24 January 2020 16: 56 New
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                Quote: Svarog
                I started bronchitis and if it weren’t for injections, it is possible that pneumonia could have happened.

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                It is clear that the total carpet bombardment of the body with killer drugs in order to burn out even the suspicion of infection.
                PS Antibiotics spoil the intestines and stomach badly if you drink the pills. Therefore, kefir, kefir and kefir again. hi
                1. Svarog 24 January 2020 17: 00 New
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                  Quote: Altona
                  It is clear that the total carpet bombardment of the body with killer drugs in order to burn out even the suspicion of infection.

                  And it should be noted that at least one year later, nothing serious does not support. I used to listen to doctors who said that antibiotics were evil and tried to do without them, as a result, I was sick 4 times a year .. I don’t know, these are personal observations, everyone can have different ways .. The main thing is to sleep at least 7 hours and eat nuts .. well, on weekends, not a big disinfection in the form of 150 gr. viskar)) laughing hi
                  1. Tank hard 24 January 2020 23: 11 New
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                    Quote: Svarog
                    I used to listen to doctors who said that antibiotics were evil and tried to do without them, as a result, I was sick 4 times a year ..

                    So antibiotics do not seem to be from the virus, they are from bacteria, if I made a mistake let the doctors correct ... request repeat
                    1. Svarog 24 January 2020 23: 12 New
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                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      Quote: Svarog
                      I used to listen to doctors who said that antibiotics were evil and tried to do without them, as a result, I was sick 4 times a year ..

                      So antibiotics do not seem to be from the virus, they are from bacteria, if I made a mistake let the doctors correct ... request repeat

                      They are from complications that happen after a virus .. and here the main time ..
                      1. Tank hard 24 January 2020 23: 21 New
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                        Quote: Svarog
                        They are from complications that happen after a virus .. and here is the main time.

                        I will not argue, because I do not own the issue sufficiently ... hi
            2. New Year day 24 January 2020 17: 27 New
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              Antibiotics are not a harmless thing.

              as well as vaccinations. An example of today: in the kindergarten, children were vaccinated against the flu, someone vaccinated, someone not. The whole kindergarten fell ill, they all get the same.
              1. solzh 24 January 2020 17: 41 New
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                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: Altona
                Antibiotics are not a harmless thing.

                as well as vaccinations.

                Well I do not know. I have already forgotten, to be honest, when I was vaccinated the last time. But nothing seriously ill with nothing without them.
                For me, it's all useless. and vaccinations and antibiotics.
                1. New Year day 24 January 2020 17: 44 New
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                  Quote: solzh
                  For me, it's all useless. and vaccinations and antibiotics.

                  in everything rationality is required. Companionship and not professionalism is our scourge
                  1. Lexus 25 January 2020 03: 52 New
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                    in everything rationality is required. Companionship and not professionalism is our scourge

                    Regular contrast showers (hardening), good nutrition, and increased doses of onions / garlic + vitamin C during the "threatened period" are saved from colds and infections of natural origin. “Laboratory” bacilli are designed to overcome such prophylaxis. The fact that the "fresh" bacteria and viruses are of artificial origin, I have no doubt. hi
            3. Sergej1972 25 January 2020 19: 28 New
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              And I drink kefir with liters one joy.) Well, not liters, of course. But to drink half a liter of kefir during the course of the day is not only not a burden to me, but it’s even very pleasant.)
            4. Pavel57 28 January 2020 16: 37 New
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              Alcohol and antibiotics are compatible.
          2. bk316 24 January 2020 17: 13 New
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            Is there a vaccine for pneumonia?

            Pneumonia is actually not a disease, but the symptom complex or other pneumonia are of a different nature. From some there are from some not.

            With antibiotics, it’s all difficult to drink them, it’s best to quickly do a resistance test first, be sure to follow the schedule, be sure to drink until the end or cancel, and then yogurt.
            Unfortunately, a lot of people are eating antibiotics just like that, and even half of the doctors in the clinics do not understand anything about this, but preliminary tests are already in the highest class.
            1. Mihail2019 24 January 2020 20: 35 New
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              Pneumonia is pneumonia, if anything! And this is a disease!
              But the cause of pneumonia can be a lot of things!
              And from here a bunch of different "pneumonia" grows.
              You are our Dohtur!
              1. bk316 27 January 2020 11: 27 New
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                Pneumonia is pneumonia, if anything! And this is a disease!

                Well, you can assume that this is a disease of various etiologies.
                If you can briefly explaining how this differs from the symptom complex is a big plus for you. laughing
          3. depressant 24 January 2020 18: 52 New
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            About antibiotics.
            There are some kind of doomsday antibiotics. Doctors use them as a last resort, when a person gives their ends completely, the remaining antibiotics no longer help. So, these ignorant Indian and Chinese farmers, the "Doomsday", are injecting cows. Some of them consume only milk, and some use meat. Particularly dangerous microbes and viruses, only partially surviving in the bodies of animals, mutate, acquire resistance to any drugs, and then successfully multiply, they get to the consumer of their deadly services, along with food, a man whom nothing can save. Because epidemics are now in China, then in India.
          4. AK1972 25 January 2020 10: 52 New
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            SylvesterIf it’s not difficult for you, explain as a doctor. As far as I know, an antibacterial vaccine is weakened or killed bacteria in a nutrient medium. But the virus is not a bacterium, nature is completely different. Is it possible to weaken the virus in principle? My son at the age of 9 was given a flu shot at school. That day he fell ill. Vomiting, temperature 40, spoke up. Since then, vaccinations have been refused. I will not say that I was not ill at all, but there was no longer such a heavy current. In this regard, I highly doubt the effectiveness of antiviral vaccines. And the fact that for pharmaceutical companies vaccination is a bonanza is beyond doubt. Thanks in advance.
        2. Ge⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣o 25 January 2020 00: 21 New
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          self-medicate

          The reason for self-medication, in part, is the low quality of our medicine. We have a lot of health workers in the country who, when examining a patient, think not about his symptoms, but about how they are tired of them and how they are shining, they don’t appreciate this stupid society, one of whose representatives is undoubtedly this one, examined in present moment, patient - let him go through the woods, I’ll still treat him, they don’t pay me so much so that I can treat him / her!
      5. Mihail2019 24 January 2020 20: 29 New
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        Even the figurative effectiveness of the “weapon” - millions of “green” are “driven into it”, and at the output - two girls .. And not the fact that it’s not one of those “anti-vaccines” ..
        1. Ge⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣o 25 January 2020 00: 46 New
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          Quote: Michael2019
          not the fact that not one of those "anti-vaccination"

          Well, as it were, there is no vaccine from this ailment for now. Or do you think that the vaccine is one and from all at once?)))
      6. Observer2014 24 January 2020 23: 45 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: rocket757
        You always hope that the scale of the "Spanish epidemic, in the 20th century, will not reach !!!

        Yes, sometimes it becomes scary .. in our city of Chelny, this autumn a lot of people died of pneumonia, young people .. I personally know about two cases, in the first one a young mother, my daughter goes to her kindergarten and the second husband I know .. It all starts like an ordinary cold .. and progresses very quickly ..
        I am sure that most viruses are removed in laboratories .. Russia is surrounded by these bases around the perimeter ..

        Actually, an interesting thing, if I may say so, turns out .. We have a “surprise” in Sochi almost every year. If you can say that about almost every year. Each. yes
    2. GKS 2111 24 January 2020 15: 20 New
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      This has never happened before, and here again ... The Chinese coronavirus .... Before the birds infected with the flu and dangerous pigs flew away, a new "plague" was in a hurry to deal with the endangered humanity. At that time, pharmaceutical and research companies were counting income. Unimaginable amounts are allocated for the development of new drugs for hitherto unseen ailments. pharmaceutical companies to such methods earn fabulous profits from their sale. Especially if you heat up demand with loud headlines about terrible threats in the media. For example, bird flu was not a new strain, it just mutated a little. There was no sensation for specialists in this either. However, like the threat of extinction of all mankind.
      “Persuading” a person to buy medicine is very simple- “if you don’t buy it, you will all die!” The entire pharmaceutical business in developed countries is private property. The task of private capital is to earn money. It’s very convenient and profitable to make money on our fears. I suppose that all these misfortunes were invented. Or, at least, greatly exaggerated. One way or another, SARS, bird and swine flu, which always appeared on time and formed a panic mood in society, made it possible to earn whole vaccines and drugs with conditions for manufacturers and those who helped them establish stable sales.
      1. dauria 24 January 2020 15: 48 New
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        allowed to make fortunes on vaccines and medicines to manufacturers


        Precisely, “vaccinations are harmful, people die from them” ... This is all the machinations of pharmacists. We’ll save, you think - the plague. In the Middle Ages, only a third of those infected died. Not all in a row, but humanity will survive.
        There was such a bitch in the 90s, I remember. Even a "candidate of medicine." Tell the mothers of children who have died of diphtheria about the "machinations of pharmacists."
        1. bk316 24 January 2020 15: 59 New
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          In the Middle Ages, only a third of those infected died.

          TWO thirds, but if not pulmonary otherwise 96% request
          1. dauria 24 January 2020 16: 05 New
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            Two-thirds,


            Not a doctor, sorry. I’m just for the fact that such issues should be commanded only doctors. They say- "lie and crawl" and the government should duplicate "lie and crawl, otherwise shoot"
            1. bk316 24 January 2020 16: 06 New
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              It’s just that only doctors should command such matters.

              Definitely!
        2. fif21 24 January 2020 16: 17 New
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          Quote: dauria
          There was such a bitch in the 90s, I remember. Even a "candidate of medicine." Tell the mothers of children who have died of diphtheria about the "machinations of pharmacists."

          Diphtheria - a disease of dirty hands! A vaccination against a tick does not save from the disease, but only protects against death. hi
          1. bk316 24 January 2020 17: 23 New
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            A vaccination against a tick does not save from the disease, but only protects against death.

            Damn, another connoisseur, and he knows everything. am
            "Vaccination against a tick" - of course, what does it kill ticks?
            So by the way, strictly speaking, not a single vaccine can save you from the disease, simply because the vaccine does not work until you get sick. Vaccination creates immunity from a certain type of pathogenic microorganism. As a result, the disease is easier. It’s easier in a very wide range from “didn’t even notice” to “thank God I didn’t die”
            If you had tick-borne encephalitis, then you will not only die, but you won’t become a paralytic and a vegetable .... And if you have been bitten by a tick, you can get a dozen diseases and, optionally, encephalitis, and by the way there are no vaccinations from many of these diseases. belay
            1. fif21 24 January 2020 18: 00 New
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              Damn, another connoisseur, and he knows everything.

              It’s impossible to know everything! I am almost 60 years old. I was not on sick leave, I take off my ticks 2-3 during the summer. I was not in kindergarten (grandmother, the kingdom of heaven, drove out nurses who came to be vaccinated!). But how to strengthen the immune system taught. And she taught her to wash her hands before eating, and to brush her teeth, and there’s nothing that you don’t know about or doubt in edibility (for example, mushrooms)
              God saves man, who save himself! Or am I wrong? hi
              1. bk316 27 January 2020 11: 22 New
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                God saves man, who save himself! Or am I wrong?

                This is right.
                And what this has to do with vaccines is unclear ....
        3. GKS 2111 24 January 2020 17: 02 New
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          This is all the machinations of pharmacists

          Alexei, according to experts, last year's global pharmaceutical market exceeded the milestone of a trillion dollars. This is more than the proceeds of the oil and arms trade. We are ready to take medicine for any reason, even if there is no serious need for it.
          The World Health Organization has officially announced: to combat all treatable diseases, only two hundred drugs are enough. Today there are over ten thousand registered. Ten thousand, Karl !!! Is this not the machinations of pharmacists, Alex?
      2. bk316 24 January 2020 16: 11 New
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        if you don’t buy it, you will all die! "

        Not a single epidemiologist or pharmacist said such a thing about the flu, these are all journalists ....
        However, the flu itself die, although without humanity, it is somehow insulting to come here.
      3. Altona 24 January 2020 16: 47 New
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        This has never happened before, and here again ...

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        Nobody canceled the alarmism of the media. In any case, the body is a very complex mechanism and it is not known what helps it and what is not.
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          Nobody canceled the alarmism of the media.

          especially if they get paid for it
      4. mikstepanenko 24 January 2020 21: 08 New
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        There has never been such a thing, and here again ..
        Very correctly said. The pharmaceutical business is now in second place in terms of profitability, second only to the drug trade and ahead of the arms trade. I will not argue that everything, but at least most of the "pandemic threats" have the goal and result of one thing - the income of pharmacology. And WHO has long turned into a pharmaceutical campaign advertising department. The most famous "pandemic" of this AIDS series. According to reports from the beginning of the century, up to 20% of people infected with HIV were in South Africa and now there should not be a single living person. What is at odds with reality. The second example of excess profits on human lives is oncology. In scientific and medical terms, the problem was solved as early as the middle of the last century, as proved by clinics working according to the methods based on those discoveries.
      5. Private-K 25 January 2020 11: 14 New
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        The opinion of a smart Kharkov Jewish pediator
    3. Deniska999 24 January 2020 15: 36 New
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      Given the size and population of China, the scale of the virus does not look intimidating.
  2. Nyrobsky 24 January 2020 15: 17 New
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    The bad thing is that the incubation period from infection to the first manifestation is 14 days. During this time, one virus carrier, the darkness of the people can be infected. As the doctors say, this “Chinese” is not being treated in the usual ways and with drugs and all that remains is to rely on strong immunity. There was a Union, doctors strangled a couple of strains of influenza A and B and that’s it, but now it started, it’s avian, then pig, then mouse, then elephant and there is no end and edge. sad
    1. depressant 24 January 2020 15: 50 New
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      The Chinese eat everything!
  3. vargo 24 January 2020 15: 18 New
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    I am not a supporter of conspiracy theories here, but strangely enough today the news "WHO Executive Director Peter Salama Died." No cause of death reported. Coincidence of course, but still)
    1. solzh 24 January 2020 15: 57 New
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      Quote: vargo
      but strangely enough today the news "WHO Executive Director Peter Salama has died"

      And then he died suddenly! So do not believe in conspiracy theories, although I, too, am not a supporter of any conspiracies.
      As for the coronavirus, maybe I'm wrong, but here I think the military could not have done ...
  4. Horon 24 January 2020 15: 25 New
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    Life is a bad thing - it always ends in death.
    1. depressant 24 January 2020 15: 53 New
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      But sometimes unreasonably early. Due to the fact that some Chinese ate an unfinished mouse and sneezed at the next.
      1. Horon 24 January 2020 16: 32 New
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        Alas, yes! But this is not the most common case. But the excitement of certain circles in anticipation of profit has already gone. Doctors themselves have not yet determined the degree of danger of this virus, but amid hysteria, you can now well knock out money for research.
  5. anjey 24 January 2020 15: 28 New
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    As you know, the Chinese have very wide gastronomic preferences. So in the market in Wuhan, bats were also sold.
    You distort less in food - you live longer laughing
  6. knn54 24 January 2020 15: 34 New
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    Some sources claim that the virus is characteristic of snakes, in particular cobra. Whose meat is also loved by the Chinese. Although the viruses are very similar.
    I’m not a biologist, but cold-blooded snakes, and humans and even bat-warm-blooded ones. Somehow, the virus is amazingly FAST mutating.
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      Correlated to a climate mutation?
    2. tihonmarine 24 January 2020 16: 02 New
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      Some sources claim that the virus is characteristic of snakes, in particular cobras.

      Well, the sources are now divorced that they do more harm than from the virus. But there is truth. 5 years ago I was in Pointe Noire (Congo), where Ebola was hosting. Everything was real there, after this desire to visit this country there is no.
    3. Free wind 24 January 2020 16: 02 New
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      Interestingly, how was it determined that the cobra has the flu, the temperature is high? coughing, sneezing or watery eyes and snot flowing? And of course, the quick-eyed eat everything in a row, and a lot of it is raw, for example, the monkey’s brains are eaten from the skull of a living monkey, at that time they enjoy its cries. Therefore, it is not surprising that by dragging everything in the mouth, you can breed a menagerie in the yellow-faced body, and how these viruses are at war with each other or are friends and who knows.
      1. sergo1914 24 January 2020 17: 33 New
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        for example, the brains of monkeys they eat from the skull of a living monkey, at this time they enjoy her cries.


        She does not yell. Here you need to eat the last bite and at the same time it should die. After the negotiations in Shenzhen, the Chinese wanted to treat me. As he heard the translator, he paled off his face and explained. We wildly apologized and rushed to the airport. Like, the last plane.
        1. New Year day 24 January 2020 17: 47 New
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          As I heard the translator, I faded from my face

          my friend was on the delegation in China in the 90s. There was a good table, but when he found out what they fed him, he looked for the toilet.
          1. mikstepanenko 24 January 2020 21: 15 New
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            my friend was on the delegation in China in the 90s. There was a good table, but when he found out what they fed him, he looked for the toilet.
            And this is mutual. I read, a group of Indian scientists took on our research vessel. So they poor for a month lost 20 pounds, despite the fact that they were not fat. They just couldn’t eat a common kitchen, they looked with longing, but they turned back from the dishes. I had to organize a separate kitchen for them, which everyone else did not have a chance to get into.
  7. fif21 24 January 2020 16: 10 New
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    We are what we eat! Swine virus, bird virus ... The new virus can be called snake! The Chinese like to eat snakes, and the characteristic cold-blooded virus has mutated. Good luck to everyone! Take care of yourself. hi
    1. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 16: 40 New
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      Quote: fif21
      Swine virus, bird virus ...

      suggest you have a silo ?!
      1. fif21 24 January 2020 17: 43 New
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        suggest you have a silo ?!

        I think Barmaley have their own list of safe products! wassat Do you like silo !? Eat, just do not forget about the heat treatment and spices! hi
        1. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 17: 52 New
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          barmalei prefer meat
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            barmalei prefer meat

            Very well! In ancient Rome there was a sophisticated execution, sentenced to death fed fat meat and watered wine. So, a man was dying in terrible agony! But the Barmalei are not like that! They drink fatty meat Coca-Cola! wassat
            1. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 19: 26 New
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              Well, of course you can go to extremes, but what's the point?
              By the way, whole people already refused meat.
  8. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 16: 27 New
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    Ebola, swine and bird flu.

    well this is a specific washing of a dope by who was, especially ebola
    1. nerd.su 24 January 2020 20: 59 New
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      well this is a specific washing of a dope by who was, especially ebola

      Especially when the nerves of the tongue are exposed during tissue exfoliation, and you understand that there are no drugs ...
      1. Barmaleyka 24 January 2020 22: 06 New
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        do not specify HOW MUCH died of Ebola and how is it transmitted? !!!! repeat
        ps do not grab the poop with your hands and you will be happy
        1. nerd.su 28 January 2020 14: 23 New
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          do not specify HOW MUCH died of Ebola and how is it transmitted? !!!!

          I think that we can even trust Wikipedia on the issue of statistics. 15070 people died from ebola in the world. Of these, during the 2014–15 epidemic, 11 people died worldwide and 279 in the DRC in 2227–2018. Mortality in cases when there are more than 19 dozens of cases from 3 to 36%.
          It can be infected by eating raw or insufficiently thermally processed meat of pigs, antelopes, monkeys, bats, rodents, as well as through contact from person to person or from monkey to person.
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          do not grab the poop with your hands and you will be happy

          You will be surprised, but there are more than a dozen people in the team who are trying to say hello while leaving the toilet and not washing their hands, and if an individual leaving the toilet and not washing his hands around the corner meets a group of comrades who have not seen where he came from, then with a probability of almost one hundred percent he would shake their hands without worrying.
          Well, regarding Russia, we have two cases of infection in the most advanced institutions dealing with this topic and one hundred percent mortality. Yes, there is Ebola, people die of malaria in us, and the employer who did not supply them with a drug for the prevention of malaria is guilty. And such an excuse rolls.
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            who are trying to greet their hand when leaving the toilet and not washing their hands

            even this makes it impossible to catch the Ebola virus
            1. nerd.su 28 January 2020 14: 53 New
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              even this makes it impossible to catch the Ebola virus

              Well, for starters, who should eat unroasted pork skewers, and then everything will work.
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                don't eat non-fried pork skewers in africa
          2. Barmaleyka 28 January 2020 14: 33 New
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            Quote: bot.su
            of them during the 2014–15 epidemic, 11 people died worldwide
            500 thousand people a year die from the flu.
            1. nerd.su 28 January 2020 15: 02 New
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              500 thousand people a year die from the flu.

              The scale is not comparable, I agree. But, as far as I know, they die from complications of the flu. That is, in most cases they start the disease. And in the case of Ebola, they die directly from a disease caused by a virus. Plus, a very high mortality rate, along with low mobility of the population, impede the development of a pandemic. Stupidly, Africans die the whole village before they are far apart. But to break out of the Ebola or bring it, for example, to Russia in the summer, the situation may develop differently.
              1. Barmaleyka 28 January 2020 18: 58 New
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                Quote: bot.su
                And in the case of Ebola, they die directly from the disease.

                According to the WHO, annually about 55 thousand people die from rabies, pay attention several times than from an ebola and no screaming, that hysteria with an ebola is nothing but a dough cut, then suddenly a flash of will, screams and suddenly silence
                1. nerd.su 29 January 2020 22: 41 New
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                  that hysteria with ebola is nothing but a dough cut

                  Tantrum is for sure. That's just a cut not in the case of Ebola. The disease is dangerous, the people there are poor, and the states are greedy, there is no one to pay for the vaccine.
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                    no one to pay for the vaccine.

                    always pay to whom
  9. 1001 24 January 2020 16: 56 New
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    World pharmaceutical concerns again want to hit the jackpot ..
    In the news ten times they say the same thing, creating panic and hype in the world .. Soon, all over the world in pharmacies, the queues will begin for “oops”, etc.
    Most of the leading physicians have already listed grants so that they also support this panic and prescribe medication correctly.
    Here the world mafia, he himself was convinced of this more than once ..
  10. Was mammoth 24 January 2020 17: 26 New
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    So in the market in Wuhan, bats were also sold. Authorities now say that wild trade was illegal.
    Now she was banned, suspectingthat the virus got into circulation through this trade, and then passed to the person.
    Late to drink Borzh ....
    For me there is another version. "Games" in genetic engineering. Tomatoes with snakes were wound. "For harvest." I'm not talking about China, about "striving for the best."
    Two granddaughters are sick. In different cities. The temperature is below 40. Doctors say 3-5 days will subside. What is it? Aw, Russian science? Ah, you, China.
    1. New Year day 24 January 2020 17: 48 New
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      What is this?

      flu! My granddaughter's entire kindergarten went down, and pediatricians are not allowed to be diagnosed with the flu. Therefore, all ARVI.
      In fact, it is impossible to differentiate ARVI from influenza without serological tests
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        VLR 24 January 2020 18: 09 New
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        Because it is impossible to distinguish between influenza and SARS - the virus is the virus. And these viruses are full, no one can count. But the flu is a "brand", like an iPhone against the backdrop of Chinese smartphones. Here are just a diagnosis can only be made laboratory. And so - no fundamental differences, as between iPhone and Chinese smartphones. But they will not give much to the fight against SARS. Therefore, pharmaceutical companies have to invent horror stories
        1. New Year day 24 January 2020 18: 14 New
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          But flu is a "brand"

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            VLR 24 January 2020 18: 22 New
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            This is a scheme that does not reflect the real situation. Maybe it was relevant about 50 years ago. Now the symptoms of all diseases are blurred and do not correspond to the descriptions of textbooks. And therefore, in the West, patients' complaints are not trusted too much - they take tests, do CT, and so on, and only on the basis of them make diagnoses. And to "listen" with a phonendoscope and "knead" with his hands, his stomach was almost forgotten.
            1. New Year day 24 January 2020 18: 33 New
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              This is a scheme that does not reflect the real situation. Maybe it was relevant about 50 years ago.

              don't tell ...
          2. would 29 January 2020 23: 41 New
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            The picture was drawn by a clearly illiterate person.

            1. Influenza is included in the group of diseases such as colds, acute respiratory infections, acute respiratory viral infections. Therefore, it is incorrect to contrast them. This is the same as opposing the AK74 and the Kalashnikov assault rifle family.
            2. Influenza, like other acute respiratory infections, has different courses. From asymptomatic to very severe.
            3. Influenza does not officially have specific symptoms and, for example, the WHO describes cases in which some people with a seemingly identical picture showed influenza, while others did not. Therefore, the flu can be confidently diagnosed only with the help of a special test for the virus itself which is not routinely done.
      2. Was mammoth 24 January 2020 18: 25 New
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        flu! My granddaughter's entire kindergarten went down, and pediatricians are not allowed to be diagnosed with the flu.

        You know better. Like a doctor. It is forbidden to have last names? Is this a crime? Aw, law enforcement, do you have children? What thoughts suggest 100% of the disease?
        Quote: VlR
        Relate the number of sick and dead to the population of not even China, but this province, and you will understand that we are talking about isolated cases of the disease and there is no epidemic at all.

        Of course, 100 million Chinese, this is the error of "measurement".
        1. New Year day 24 January 2020 18: 33 New
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          It is forbidden to have last names?

          Of course there is, starting with the heads of the ministries. When the USSR did not die of diabetes, for example, now, from the flu, again an example. When we were dying from the Nord-Ost, they put everyone in acute heart failure, even a 20-year-old. Everyone is fighting for their place, then what now
          1. Was mammoth 24 January 2020 19: 15 New
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            of course have... .

            AND? What is the difference between repairing a water tap from a flu treatment. Are such a noble profession — to heal people, or like undertakers, “chop the dough”? What do you think?
            Sorry, angry. I believe that medicine is based on people. On ordinary people.
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              Medicine and the pharmaceutical industry are two different things. For pharmaceutical companies, patients are consumers of products, and the more of them, the better. And patients should be forced to buy pills and injections. It doesn’t matter whether they need these pills or not, whether they help or not, the main thing is to buy. And not the old cheap pills (which, by the way, quite helped) - God forbid, but the new and expensive ones. And a very large percentage of new drugs is produced not because they are very necessary, and you cannot do without them, but because they are more expensive than old ones, it is much more profitable to produce them.
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          Throughout China - 876 cases of viral pneumonia, 26 - deaths. Will you consider the percentage of the population? Aren't you funny yourself?
          1. Was mammoth 24 January 2020 19: 07 New
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            You yourself are not funny?

            No, not funny. Can they treat this in the world? So, well done the Chinese authorities and doctors that sounded the alarm.
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    VLR 24 January 2020 17: 53 New
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    Relate the number of sick and dead to the population of not even China, but this province, and you will understand that we are talking about isolated cases of the disease and there is no epidemic at all. Pharmaceutical companies are launching yet another scam such as bird and swine flu, which they have gigantic money to “fight” (drug lords bite their elbows, feeling like the latest suckers). And where are these terrible twigs now? Why don't we hear anything about them, and where did they go? Where are they? In the same place where this new "terrible and deadly" flu will appear in a year. And then they come up with a new one - some kind of "sheep" or "ant".
  12. District Committee Bureau 24 January 2020 19: 07 New
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    Chinese coronavirus: truth and myths

    The Chinese kush decided to disrupt .blocking the city and spreading panic in the world media ..
    Soon, in pharmacies, Chinese aspirin tablets will line up .. heh heh
  13. Usher 24 January 2020 20: 23 New
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    Measures seem to have been taken, but the world is worried
    laughing cool phrase. But a little creepy.
  14. CommanderDIVA 24 January 2020 21: 24 New
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    In the summer of 2019, after recovering from SARS, I talked with a virologist in Moscow, said that after the 2018 World Cup in Russia, many different viruses were imported that doctors can’t determine, the diagnosis is standard SARS, the doctor advised me to be vaccinated that I and I’ve been doing it constantly for many years, it used to go on, but no more than two or three days, by the way, at the first signs of acute respiratory viral infections in the work team, I ordered employees to finely chop the garlic on a plate and pour it a little water and leave it in office during working hours, it smelled of tin, but no one Never interrupt ill during epidemics, taught a Siberian
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      I did not know about this method of prevention, Thank you for saying. In fact, I constantly drink herbs for prevention ... Over the past year - I have never sneezed, despite the fact that everyone was sick around.
  15. Tank hard 24 January 2020 23: 03 New
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    The creators of biological weapons do not sleep ... repeat
  16. slavaseven 25 January 2020 06: 46 New
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    And here is an interesting article of 2017 about a laboratory in Wuhan
    https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487
  17. riwas 25 January 2020 07: 07 New
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    On TV, the news was. Ours proposed to use the domestic antiviral drug triazavirin for the control of coronavirus. It seems to have been used successfully against tick-borne encephalitis virus in Krasnoyarsk. But it is expensive - more than 1000 rubles for 20 capsules. There are pharmacies.
  18. tank64rus 28 January 2020 11: 38 New
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    At our place, Serdyukov “optimized” the VAChZ academy in Moscow and the RKhBZ school in Kostroma, the Institute of BIOLOGICAL and Chemical Protection in Saratov. The "optimized" medicine was completed just before the epidemic in China. Now we listen to the peppy statements of officials that everything will be fine.
  19. would 30 January 2020 01: 33 New
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    What do we end up with? We have another coronavirus whose mortality is less than that of others like SARS with 10% mortality and MERS with 35% mortality. Moreover, at the moment all the deaths of the new coronavirus concern exclusively risk groups, here I will quote the South China Morning Post of February 23

    According to the report, coronavirus victims are people aged from 48 to 89 years.

    According to the agency, at least nine out of 17 deaths in Wuhan had chronic diseases: diabetes, coronary heart disease or Parkinson's disease. Eight of them were over 80 years old, two - for 70. The youngest victim of the virus was a 48-year-old woman with chronic diabetes who had previously suffered a stroke..


    No deaths of young and healthy people were recorded, and the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention said that young people are not affected by the virus.

    With infectiousness, too, everything is not so hot, it definitely will not reach the level of seasonal flu. More than 11 million people live in Wuhan in conditions that are excellent for the spread of the virus, and in the province at the moment only 3.5 thousand cases of the disease are confirmed. You can calculate the percentage yourself.

    In general, we have another coronavirus that does not carry a threat to the population, primarily dangerous for precisely risk groups. Nothing special except that this time quarantine measures are unprecedented. And if someone really believes that this is a biological weapon that escaped from the laboratories, then I want to say that they think too badly about the developers of biological weapons. If something had flowed out of the laboratory, the picture would have been completely different.

    So we don’t watch TV with its hysteria, we don’t read various sites with a hysteria, we just sit in Russia and live as before, in no case worry. This tactic was successful in the SARS epidemic.
  20. steysi 19 February 2020 21: 58 New
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    Sensational !!! National Institute of infectious diseases of Japan.
    A group of researchers from Hong Kong.
    The American national Institute of Allergy and infectious diseases has developed a coronavirus vaccine-nCoV2019 currently, the vaccine can only be purchased online and only here https://vaccinencov2019.selz.com
    if you want to protect yourself, your children and your loved ones, then buy a vaccine, its quantity is limited.
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    Yes, it seems to me that they panic more so that they can later sell antiviral drugs .. here’s just an article I found also interesting on this topic https://coronavirus-24.ru/stati/koronavirus-mify-i-realnost