Will the provisions on state ideology be included in the Constitution of Russia


In the light of the discussion that has arisen on introducing amendments to the Constitution of Russia, clarifications of various articles are considered, and only an article on state ideology is avoided. This issue has been raised by various political and social forces more than once, however, the authorities are trying to get away from it.


National ideology as part of the constitutional rights of the people


The fact is that there is an article in the Constitution that directly prohibits the establishment of state ideology. This rudiment of the 90s, due to the fear of the then leadership of the country of the restoration of socialism, remained in the text of the Constitution. The current leadership has different priorities, but the issue of ideology has not yet been considered.

According to part 1 of article 13 of the Constitution, the Russian Federation "recognizes ideological diversity," and part 2 of this article says: "No ideology can be established as state or mandatory." That is, today in Russia, state ideology is officially banned. Why is that?

Ideology is understood as a system of political, legal, religious and philosophical views and ideas, in which people’s attitude to reality is recognized and evaluated, and national ideology involves a system of views that serve as the ideological and spiritual basis of national identification and national self-identification and indicate ways and means of achieving them.

Therefore, abandoning national ideology, Russian society and the state do not set the task of preserving their national identity and defending their national interests, which are not even formulated.

If you look at the Constitution of the USSR, then in its preamble it was determined that the supreme goal of the state is "building a classless communist society ... raising the material and cultural standard of living of workers, ensuring the country's security, promoting peace and international cooperation."

The preamble to the US Constitution also states that the goal of the state is to form an alliance that "promotes universal prosperity and the consolidation of the good of freedom for the people." Pragmatic Americans understood very well that without ideology there can be no systematic government. They emphasized the Western values ​​of the absolute of freedom and individual success, the so-called American dream: "Do it yourself."

Why ideology is prohibited in the Constitution of Russia


The current Russian Constitution does not stipulate the goals of society and the state, does not define national interests, as well as the directions and ways of their implementation, it is only stated that Russia is a social state. The ruling class of Russia did not introduce this into the Constitution, which was adopted in 1993 immediately after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The post-Soviet elite, headed by Yeltsin, who came to power, focused on plundering the state and integrating with the West, indirectly staked out in the Constitution only a ban on the revenge of communist ideology.

Naturally, she could not legitimize the desire to become a part of the West and the ideology of robbery and looting of the Soviet heritage in the Basic Law. The question of the state ideology of post-Soviet Russia remained open, society no longer accepted the communist ideology, and they decided to quietly implement without building a wild stratum of capitalism with a class stratification that was actually being built.

The ruling elite, in order to satisfy their personal selfish interests, integrate into the Western political system and preserve their stolen capital, laid the foundation for a class society undergoing the ideology of liberal monetarism and led the country to the loss of national sovereignty, the surrender of Russia's national interests and the loss of national identity of the people.

The interests of the majority of the elite did not coincide with the national interests of the country and society, and state mechanisms were built not in the interests of the whole society, but in the interests of the minority that seized power.

When Putin’s team came to power, the ruling elite split, halting Russia's trend toward integration with the West and trying to defend Russia's national interests. All these actions were half-hearted and were an attempt to compromise between the different branches of the ruling elite. The period of “freezing” of the political system is ending, it is necessary to translate it into a new quality, preferably without any special shocks. In this connection, the question arises of formulating, without regard to the West, national ideology, national interests, the idea of ​​the existence of the Russian people and their spiritual mission.

The need for national ideology of Russia


A society without a goal is not viable. Without formulating and not spelling out the goals to which it should strive, there is nothing to ask the ruling elite for, it will continue to pursue not its public, but its corporate interests. Russia was at a crossroads, it was no longer possible to return the communist ideology, it was too discredited by the late Soviet elite, and capitalism under construction with its class stratification also did not suit society, everyone was convinced of what this leads to.

In this regard, it is necessary for the elites and society to reevaluate the fundamental values, society should be fermented with its illusions and vices. It is necessary to determine our place in the world order, where our roots come from, where we are going and what we are striving for. What system of traditional values ​​in the form of ideas and ideas characterizes the Russian people and what spiritual principles, nurtured by previous generations on the basis of civilizational culture, are characteristic of it.

Who are we: the Russian subethnos that created the powerful Russian civilization, part of Western civilization, or the miserable limitrophy between Europe and Asia? The way of life and lifestyle of the Russian people has always been communal in nature with its own peculiar culture that promotes the unification of individuals into communities to ensure their existence. Moreover, the priority was to protect not the personal, but the public interests of the community, which defended the interests of the individual. In Russian society, unlike the western one with an individualistic civilizational code, a collectivist civilizational code was laid down, evaluating each of its members in terms of usefulness to society as a whole. In this regard, Russian people are historically particularly sensitive to issues of social justice.

Society needs to present the image of the future, determine its goal-setting and clearly articulate fundamental values, for which they must fight and where to strive. Everyone can be united by the idea and ideology of social justice, the purpose of which is to build a just state that ensures the realization of Russia's national interests and the achievement of spiritual and material well-being for the majority of the people.

Russian society demands the construction of a social state and the cessation of the flagrant class stratification and the formation of the nouveau riche class, profitable from everyone else. The greatness and power of Russia are inseparable from the well-being of its people. It is necessary to transform Russia into a strong and wealthy state, capable of ensuring a decent standard of living for its people.

The formation of the Russian counter-elite


Society can only be transformed by the counter-elite, which should be born in the bowels of the current elite. Society needs to fight for the formation of such a core and put it in conditions in which it can only fulfill the will of society.

Any ideology leads to a confrontation between different parts of society and the elite; it cannot suit absolutely everyone. In the emerging Russian class society, where the process of social stratification has begun, each class seeks to realize its interests, and these interests often conflict. Without support in the highest echelons of Russian power, the necessary transformations in society are impossible.

The emerging sound core of the Russian elite, as if deciding to radically transform society in the interests of the majority, will have to seriously reformat and nationalize the Russian elite, which today is largely comprador. It is also necessary to force Russian business to work to ensure Russia's national interests.

So far, this core of the Russian elite is in no hurry to talk about national ideology and write it in the Constitution, this will inevitably lead to aggravation of relations among the elite and business and the inevitable opposition to the policy of reformatting the state and society. With the formation of the new government, the question will still arise which course and what ideology it will implement and on whom to rely on the posteltsin elite rejected by society or the emerging counter-elite. The time comes when it is necessary to determine the national ideology of Russian society and raise the question of introducing appropriate amendments to the Constitution.
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  1. Aerodrome 24 January 2020 05: 42 New
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    Will the provisions on state ideology be included in the Constitution of Russia
    Do they need it?
    1. GKS 2111 24 January 2020 05: 54 New
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      Obviously, no state can exist without ideology. A state without goals? Government officials acting outside the generally accepted system of ideals, values, attitudes and beliefs? That is, one can, for example, consider the homeland a value, and the other not necessary? Here is what a prominent lawyer A.I. writes on this subject Alexandrov: “In reality, the prohibition of state ideology is nothing more than the prohibition of any propaganda by the state, the prohibition of targeted propaganda of humanistic, universal values ​​through structures of state authorities, through educational and educational institutions, which causes negative consequences: legal nihilism, increased crime, crowding out public justice public criminal consciousness. " In general, the interesting thing in our country was the constitutional consolidation of the role of ideology. Deeply original. There is no such anywhere else and no one.
      1. Obi-Wan Kenobi 24 January 2020 06: 29 New
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        Kin-dza-dza remember?
        When society has no color differentiation of pants, then there is no purpose! And when there is no goal ...

        So we have neither a goal nor an ideology. That's how we live.
        1. mikh-korsakov 24 January 2020 11: 27 New
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          My proposal is the motto of Russia. Strengthen your family, give birth to children, work honestly, do not steal.
          1. Obi-Wan Kenobi 24 January 2020 11: 44 New
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            You can, of course, and so.
            But actually our ancestors have already come up with everything - 10 commandments.
            1. Avior 24 January 2020 16: 44 New
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              I'm afraid it's the ancestors of the Israelis came up with
      2. Svarog 24 January 2020 07: 29 New
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        Will the provisions on state ideology be included in the Constitution of Russia

        Is this what they want to consolidate the arbitrariness of officials and permissiveness of the oligarchs in the Constitution? Rave. There is no ideology; there is an uncontrolled thirst for profit ..
        And then, for starters, it can comply with the Constitution ... it says that Russia is a social state .. but we see that there are only one flaws left from the social state.
        Return the Constitution of the USSR.
        1. Altona 24 January 2020 17: 02 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Is this what they want to consolidate the arbitrariness of officials and permissiveness of the oligarchs in the Constitution? Rave. There is no ideology; there is an uncontrolled thirst for profit ..

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          I also think that they have long had an ideology, and in a nutshell it is "save the loot." It is proposed to formulate some regular simulacrum, under which there will be no economic basis. Serfs will be inspired by one thing, they themselves will do the opposite. This is about nothing.
          1. Lexus 24 January 2020 17: 26 New
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            I also think that they have long had an ideology and in a nutshell it is "save money"

            The parasites have one ideology - exhausted and gobbled up one "carrier", get on the other. Which, in fact, we are observing with increasing regularity.
            And they also tend to produce anesthetics and toxins in order to freely subjugate the body and prevent the rejection of pests that feast on it and on it.
            What other ideology will they have? hi
            1. opus 24 January 2020 20: 12 New
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              Quote: lexus
              What other ideology will they have?



              I was saddened by hearing Volodin ...
              1. Lexus 24 January 2020 20: 47 New
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                Volodina ...

                The cutoff of the character who was going to do disgusting with accomplices and got caught. That’s why such an absurdity. Like the "power" as a whole.
          2. Reptiloid 24 January 2020 19: 00 New
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            Quote: Altona
            ...... I also think that they have long had an ideology, and in a nutshell it is "save the loot." It is proposed to formulate some regular simulacrum, under which there will be no economic basis. Serfs will be inspired by one thing, they themselves will do the opposite. This is about nothing.
            ..... probably so ---- squeeze everything out of the population, "save money", dump the family with your family and grandmothers.
      3. Victor N 24 January 2020 10: 47 New
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        So again, officials from ideology will be needed to decide what is fair, who is more valuable to society ..... Passed by, remember! Public morality must be observed and strengthened.
    2. lucul 24 January 2020 06: 15 New
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      Do they need it?

      It is not necessary to formulate any ideology - it will be enough to remove the wording from the Constitution - to ban any ideology. To start, and that's enough ....
      1. cloud catcher 24 January 2020 08: 12 New
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        First, ideology is a combination of systematic ordered views that expresses the interests of various social classes and other social groups, on the basis of which the relationships of people and their communities to social reality in general and to each other are recognized and evaluated. Classes are “large groups of people, differing in their place in the historically defined system of social production, in their relation (mostly fixed and formalized in laws) to the means of production, in their role in the social organization of labor, and therefore in the methods of production and size the share of social wealth that they have. Classes are such groups of people from which one can appropriate the labor of another, due to the difference in their place in a certain structure of the social economy ”

        The ideology prevailing in a particular state, country or society is called dominant. This, perhaps, needs to be thought about.
        There are various interpretations of the teachings of Marx associated with various political parties and movements in social thought and political practice. Political Marxism is one of the options for socialism.
        Marxism did not recognize any of the models of democracy that existed at that time, including parliamentary. This was explained by the fact that democracy is a product of statehood, of bourgeois capitalist society, and therefore, by definition, it cannot bring freedom to citizens. Marx believed that only freedom can lead to the development of each individual person, and it, in turn, is achievable only in a classless communist society, but in the absence of private property, which strikes class inequality.

        "Any ideology leads to the confrontation of different parts of society and the elite, it cannot suit absolutely everyone."
        Even in an absolutely fair society (albeit a communist one), someone must lead, and someone should work as a cesspool worker, this is the second.
        The truth is somewhere nearby ... The question of ideology is very delicate.
        1. Konstantin Shevchenko 24 January 2020 09: 24 New
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          The truth is that any Western ideology is rot in a beautiful wrapper.
          1. malyvalv 24 January 2020 17: 04 New
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            communist ideology is also western if cho. Marx and Engels did not live in Russia.
            1. Victor N 25 January 2020 09: 56 New
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              And they hated Russia fiercely.
            2. Konstantin Shevchenko 25 January 2020 14: 32 New
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              Therefore, I write "any western."
              communist ideology is also western if cho.
              unfortunately there are no authors who would write about the recognition of Western minds about the inconsistency of communism, before the revolution of 1917. Unfortunately, we have people who believe that it is possible to bend the world for themselves. Especially in laughing
        2. Krasnoyarsk 24 January 2020 09: 52 New
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          Quote: Cloud Catcher

          "Any ideology leads to the confrontation of different parts of society and the elite, it cannot suit absolutely everyone."

          You want to say that by excluding the provision on ideology from the constitution, we exclude the "opposition of different parts of society"? It resembles an ostrich with its head in the sand.
          1. cloud catcher 24 January 2020 14: 24 New
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            This is a quote from an article. Anything can be prescribed in the basic law, but this is half the battle ... The main thing is a set of systemic measures to reduce the degree of contradictions in society and minimize the total differentiation of the population
            1. Krasnoyarsk 24 January 2020 18: 32 New
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              Quote: Cloud Catcher
              This is a quote from the article.
              "Any ideology leads to the confrontation of different parts of society and the elite, it cannot suit absolutely everyone."

              And there is no need for an ideology that suits absolutely everyone. Enough for her to suit the majority. And the majority will be satisfied only with the communist ideology - "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." But .., society is not ready for this yet - there are too few altruists in society. Therefore, the socialist ideology will be in demand - "From each in ability, to each according to work."
              And the whole trick is to evaluate the work applied. In Soviet times, there was such a book - ETKS (unified tariff and qualification reference book), it was the basis for evaluating labor up to and including the minister. When he acted, my director’s salary was 360 rubles, and my piecework earnings revolved around 300 rubles. I suppose it was fair. Despite the fact that during the marriage in the director's work, the plant will not fulfill the plan and I will not receive my 300, and during my marriage people may die.
              If at that time the current conditions were transferred, then I would receive 30 thousand from the force, and my "director" from 500 to 700 thousand. As they say - feel the difference. And what has changed in the ratio of his work and mine? Nothing at all. I’m lying, the ideology has changed !!!
              And they say that she is not! She is, only she is not advertised. This is the ideology of the bourgeois.
              1. solzh 24 January 2020 23: 57 New
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                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                She is, only she is not advertised. This is the ideology of the bourgeois.

                The bourgeoisie is a social-class category, which corresponds to the ruling class of capitalist society, possessing property (in the form of money, means of production, land, patents or other property) and existing at the expense of income from this property.

                Bourgeois ideology - reflects the interests of the capitalist class.

                Marx and Engels explained that the slogans advanced by the bourgeoisie are, on the one hand, certain historically justified claims of the rising class, on the other - political fictions

                In other words, you're right!
        3. cloud catcher 24 January 2020 13: 58 New
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          In matters of democracy, the will of the absolute majority of a capable population, capable of choosing the best development program offered by different parties, is important!
          The powers that be are rarely interested in social justice so as not to lose their privileged position as the ruling class in society, because classes determine primarily privileges, and then the division of labor into managers and direct producers.
          In a socially just society, there should be no increase in the welfare of members of a government unless it is accompanied by an increase in the welfare of the poorest sections of such a society!
          “Do not do to others what you do not like, live righteously yourself and demand this from others!”
          Throughout the history of its development, mankind has been constantly looking for mechanisms to resolve the contradictions between unjustly financially “gifted” people on the one hand and the desire of poor people to live no worse than others on the other. Solution: progressive taxation and an extensive system of state social support for the poor (which we observe).
          Marx: "a person should be free in his choice - to participate in socially necessary work according to his abilities and aspirations, in order to have from society everything necessary for a life FREE from hired labor ..."
          1. Reptiloid 24 January 2020 19: 07 New
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            cloud catcher! You say that the will of a capable majority is important? ..... Unfortunately, in practice, the will of a richer class, class, has prevailed from ancient times to the present. Both in ideology and in everything else
            1. aybolyt678 24 January 2020 21: 03 New
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              Quote: Reptiloid
              You say that the will of a capable majority is important? ..... Unfortunately, in practice, the will of a richer class prevailed,

              Majority or minority, I believe that the term is not quite correct. There is the concept of social consciousness, which in essence is the consciousness of an average person. Where the basic concepts - like good and evil, family war, homeland, culture are about the same from the level of a housewife to a candidate of science. Any policy is a war for the minds and hearts of people, and socialism so far loses points. But socialism is the only possible way in conditions of limited resources or a hostile environment. Public opinion is now turning towards socialism, they remember Stalin with a kind word .... The main thing now is the development of concepts and terms, the enlightenment of that very average person so as not to become a victim of political fraud. When a specific request is formed in society, no will of the ruling class is a decree. There are many examples of this.
              1. Reptiloid 24 January 2020 21: 31 New
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                aybolit678! You see, what I wanted to say is that the term majority and minority is not that it is incorrect, but it is not only quantitative, but also qualitative, or something. It's about being able to influence events. 3% of the population, if they own 75% of the national wealth, has such orders of magnitude more than the quantitative majority.
                About the only possible way of life, Academician Gundarov wrote much better than me in the article LIBERAL REPRESSIONS. hi
          2. Krasnoyarsk 25 January 2020 01: 04 New
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            Quote: Cloud Catcher
            In matters of democracy, the will of the absolute majority of the competent is important

            Get the word democracy out of your head. In nature, it never was, never is and never will be. This term is coined to deceive and fool the masses of people.
            In short: democracy is the power of the people.
            Who has the power? The one to whom they voluntarily or under duress obey.
            If the people have power, then who obeys him, the people? The president? Parliament? Government?
            Therefore, there is no democracy in nature. There is a dictatorship of the ruling class!
            Today it is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
      2. Edik 24 January 2020 09: 50 New
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        Quote: lucul
        It is not necessary to formulate any ideology - it will be enough to remove the wording from the Constitution - to ban any ideology. To start, and that's enough ....

        Article 13. In the Russian Federation, the ideological ...
        1. The Russian Federation recognizes ideological diversity.
        2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.
        3. The Russian Federation recognizes political diversity, multi-party system.
        4. Public associations are equal before the law.
        5. It is forbidden to create and operate public associations whose goals or actions are aimed at forcibly changing the foundations of the constitutional system and violating the integrity of the Russian Federation, undermining the security of the state, creating armed groups, inciting social, racial, national and religious hatred.

        Well, you did not bother, where did you see the ban?
        1. aybolyt678 24 January 2020 21: 04 New
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          Quote: Edik
          2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.

          and paragraph 2 does not contradict the statement of the guarantor that patriotism should be the state ideology?
    3. Private89 24 January 2020 08: 57 New
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      What brought people together in the USSR and gave rise to partnership and fraternity? Ideology? Including her. But I will look at this question from a philistine point of view. In my, maybe subjective opinion, people were united by a common cause. Let's take a look at our life today. Why does each of us go to work in order not to starve to death, live the next day, make a profit at the enterprise? A person in our capitalist country, working at work and producing some kind of product, whether it is a part machined on a machine tool or some kind of intellectual product, is completely alienated from the fruits of his labor, since the bourgeois takes all the profit (in fact, the oligarchs appear), and he receives a handout in the form of a salary, and after all, the profit from the fruits of his labor could go towards creating public goods, for example, so that the employees of this enterprise go to send their children in the summer to a children's health camp or pay for a kindergarten or build a kindergarten, or increase their pay or to pay for the improvement of their qualifications, to give their employees apartments, there are plenty of options. And you know, when a person understands that his friend at a nearby machine tool works for the common, including his welfare and his children, this gives rise to partnership and fraternity. How to ensure this? This is possible only under one condition if such an enterprise is not in private, but in PUBLIC PROPERTY. Scientifically, this is a social form of ownership of the means of production. By the way, this situation eliminates the main contradictions that exist under capitalism: the exploitation of man by man and the contradiction between the social nature of production and the private nature of appropriation, in my opinion, these are real mines laid down in our country in the year 91. As for changes to the constitution and the new cabinet.
      1. Victor N 24 January 2020 11: 00 New
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        Private is obliged to execute, but not command. And in society (any) there are leaders and performers. Production is not complete without leadership, otherwise it is impossible. The better the leader from the company leader from the private owner? Is it more difficult for society to ask than a private person?
      2. AU Ivanov. 24 January 2020 21: 27 New
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        We never had public property. It was state property. And these are two big differences.
    4. Boris55 24 January 2020 09: 41 New
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      Quote: Aerodrome
      Do they need it?

      They - who is it?

      Neither the President nor the Duma have the right to amend Ch. 1 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which precisely contains Art. 13, which speaks of ideology.

      Only the Constitutional Assembly can do this..


      The Duma has already four times tried to adopt the law on the "Constitutional Assembly", which just has the right to amend Chapter. 1, 2 and 9 - to no avail. And when it had a majority from the Communist Party and from the EP ...

      Constitution of the Russian Federation. 135 Article

      1. The provisions of chapters 1, 2, and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation cannot be revised by the Federal Assembly.

      2. If the proposal to revise the provisions of chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation is supported by three fifths of the total number of members of the Council of the Federation and deputies of the State Duma, then in accordance with the federal constitutional law, the Constitutional Assembly is convened.

      3. The Constitutional Assembly either confirms the immutability of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, or develops a draft new Constitution of the Russian Federation, which is adopted by the Constitutional Assembly by two-thirds of the votes of the total number of its members or is put to the popular vote. When conducting a popular vote, the Constitution of the Russian Federation is considered adopted if more than half of the voters who participated in the vote voted for it, provided that more than half of the voters participated in it.
  2. Far B 24 January 2020 05: 50 New
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    Today’s leadership has different priorities
    Yah??? But as for me - the same ones - pump more out of the country, put more on yourself, my beloved, and friends of my oligarchs. Ideology? No, not heard.
    1. GKS 2111 24 January 2020 05: 56 New
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      What is ideology now? Could there be one ideology among the oligarchs of the Privatisers of the national treasures, and among the common people?
      For example, the bourgeoisie is very pleased that on the day of victory in Red Square, with the plywood shields, they close the Lenin Mausoleum and do not utter a word about Generalissimo Stalin, who, incidentally, did not have six leadership posts during the Second World War.
      The bourgeois ideology is their privatized enterprises which are inherited by their children. To common people, cookies and promises of a better life. Bourgeois is happy with that. What about the people?
      1. Victor N 24 January 2020 11: 05 New
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        What an elegant transition from finger to ......! You won’t drink skill!
    2. Vladimir_2U 24 January 2020 07: 13 New
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      Quote: Far In
      put more on your own, beloved, and friends of your oligarchs

      A witty though not funny joke about the Chukchi and the slogan “Everything for the good of man” is now much more relevant than in Soviet times. So what ideology for the masses can come up with in the Kremlin and not slip into this joke is a big mystery.
      Actually Anek himself. : The Chukchi came from Moscow and when asked what interesting it says: - A lot of things, but do you know the slogan "Everything for the good of man"?
      -Yeah.
      - So, I even saw this man!
    3. aybolyt678 24 January 2020 08: 24 New
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      Quote: Far In
      Yah??? But as for me - the same ones - pump more from the country, more to myself

      In fact, the IDEOLOGY OF CONSUMPTION is developed and continues to be cultivated in the country. It is formed by advertising. Have you noticed that not a single advertisement advertises a product as such? she screams BUY and BE HAPPY! which implies a substitution of the concept of HAPPINESS, forms the GOAL - Money for purchase, and splits society into individuals who are closest to personal consumption of goods.
      1. Victor N 24 January 2020 11: 11 New
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        And what: the classification of society not in relation to the means of production, but in relation to commodities. It’s just that all classifications are very arbitrary, this should not be forgotten. And you can’t fetish.
        1. aybolyt678 24 January 2020 14: 09 New
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          Quote: Victor N
          It's just that all classifications are very arbitrary.

          a consumer, he is a consumer in Africa. They made a sacred cow out of shopping. When for example there is a conversation about self-esteem of one’s own needs in favor of the Russian consumer, the normal argument is the following - From the point of view of the consumer, I make a choice for import. -And it rolls! sad
    4. cloud catcher 24 January 2020 08: 45 New
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      It is known that in fantastic works models of the future are rolled in, as it will be. But the social order itself is usually represented in the form of already known formations - imperialism, communism, or even a primitive communal or feudal system.

      The democratic regime that existed in Athens suggested that every full-fledged citizen had the right to take a jury, vote in the public assembly and be elected to any public office.

      Market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, market factors, and, in some cases, a profit motive in relation to the activities of publicly owned enterprises and the distribution of means of production between them. Profits earned by these firms will be directly controlled by the labor force of each firm or accumulated for society as a whole in the form of a social dividend.
      In the USSR, it would seem, there was a high level of social equality. The imbalance between the poorest and richest groups in the USSR was enormous. It just was not expressed exclusively in the form of wages. That is, there was no social equality in this indicator in the USSR. On the contrary, there was a sophisticated differentiation and inequality.
      All ideas are very good, as long as they are not distorted to disgrace.
      That society is considered a society with a high degree of social equality in which any person, regardless of what family he was born in, has the opportunity, without breaking the law, thanks only to his abilities, to achieve that position in the society for which he claims. That is, the only limitation is human ability.
      This is what you must strive for !!
      1. cloud catcher 24 January 2020 11: 31 New
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        Very often, it is striking that the career successes of the children and wives of high-ranking officials who become managers are only due to a kinship, and have not shown themselves in any areas. And if an official or deputy also sends relatives abroad, then he actually demonstrates that he does not believe in domestic education, healthcare, for which the state and he himself are responsible, which means that he signs his own inability to benefit.
        At the same time, I have nothing against the truly talented sons of leaders who learn the basics of technology and science from the bottom.
        “Remember, gentlemen: corruption will destroy this country” and nepotism. (c / f Man from Capuchin Boulevard)
  3. Uncle lee 24 January 2020 06: 03 New
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    "Strength, Kindness, Justice"
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      Then my triad, which I wrote when I registered here on the site. "Order, Justice, Traditions."
      Order is compliance with laws.
      Justice is all equal before the law.
      Traditions are ... remove article 282 or they will "bany" for several years, even if I say that I am Russian.
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        Our slogans do not roll .... Alas! hi
  4. Far B 24 January 2020 06: 04 New
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    it will no longer be possible to return communist ideology; it is too discredited by the late Soviet elite
    A moot point. If you convey to the majority that the "late Soviet elite" has nothing to do with the communist ideology, in fact, it does not, if you convey that Gorbachev and Co. not at all equal the idea of ​​communismthen who knows, who knows ... Time, as they say, will show.
    1. carstorm 11 24 January 2020 06: 19 New
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      how funny) everyone was a communist but damn it turns out they had nothing to do with communist ideology) what kind of damn ideology is it that raises those who want to destroy it? because this late elite was not born in 80. She dominated and developed in the country for decades. rose and grew and made careers. and this is in a country that has not even lived for hundreds of years.
      1. Far B 24 January 2020 06: 25 New
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        all were communists but damn it turns out they had nothing to do with communist ideology
        Vlasov was also a communist for the time being - and cho? Putin, too, was a communist (and even a KGB officer who took the oath of the USSR) for the time being - and cho? Have a membership card and be a communist - a few different things, do not you?
        not in 80 born
        Not in the 80s, that's right. She was the fruit of Khrushchev’s labors.
        in a country that has not lived for hundreds of years
        A little to substantiate? Or, following your logic, Russia is 29 years old today?
        1. Andrey Chistyakov 24 January 2020 06: 30 New
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          "Vlasov was also a communist for the time being - and cho?"
          Vlasov was hanged !!!!!!! Even if he were an anarchist.
          Or do they act differently with a traitor ?!
          1. Far B 24 January 2020 06: 33 New
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            Vlasov was hanged !!!!!!!
            Did I write somewhere that they drowned him? Why this cry of the soul with a bunch of exclamation marks?
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              Quote: Far In
              Vlasov was hanged !!!!!!!
              Did I write somewhere that they drowned him? Why this cry of the soul with a bunch of exclamation marks?

              To the fact that Vlasov was for the time being a communist and cho? I answered you. And that.
              1. Far B 24 January 2020 06: 40 New
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                And from the very beginning to read a branch - not fate? It is desirable, carefully delving into what is written. Phrase
                Vlasov was for the time being a communist - and cho?
                was written in response to
                all were communists but damn it turns out they had nothing to do with communist ideology
                previous speaker. For him (and, as it turned out, for you), he made a subscript from below:
                Have a membership card and be a communist - a few different things, do not you?
                1. Andrey Chistyakov 24 January 2020 06: 45 New
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                  How do you all communists with Vlasov one-step? Do not find? There is no question mark at all. I apologize ahead of time ..
                  1. Far B 24 January 2020 06: 55 New
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                    How do you all communists with Vlasov one-step?
                    And where did you read this, feel free to ask? belay
        2. carstorm 11 24 January 2020 06: 36 New
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          was. and my father was and forgot about it quickly. you do not hear me. this ideology destroys itself you don’t understand it? those who grew the country on it and destroyed. fast and easy. and everyone did not care. and again, someone wants to revive that which will kill itself. it's stupid ... as for substantiating, the history of the USSR is concrete. and the history of Russia is centuries old. and the Union is just a moment in its existence. not the most important. RI died Union died. it's an experience. why come back and corpses to revive and not move forward creating something new and more viable?
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            you do not hear me
            I heard you very well. Therefore, he wrote in a previous post (preceding, please note):
            Have a membership card and be a communist - a few different things, do not you?
            Okay, I’ll be concretizing for you: “to be ideological communist. "
            as to justify, the history of the USSR is concrete. and the history of Russia is centuries old. and the Union is just a moment in its existence. not the most important. RI died Union died.
            That is, you acknowledge that the USSR is part of the history of the Russian State? Then why did they write
            in a country that has not lived for hundreds of years?
            The country is living, just reformatted.
            why come back and revive the corpses
            Who is talking about return and necromancy? The question of the revival of ideology, as it seems to me, was conducted. If a certain USSR 2.0 is formed, then it will be version 2.0, in which the previous errors will be taken into account. Something like this.
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            rather than moving forward creating something new and more viable?

            For example?
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            why come back and corpses to revive and not move forward creating something new and more viable?

            socialism is not a corpse. Socialism is a series of goodies that ensure social equality. Remember and analyze this is necessary to develop the right strategies for survival and development.
            1. AU Ivanov. 24 January 2020 21: 34 New
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              Equality should be only one thing - before the law. An alcoholic and a loafer to a working person cannot be equal. Including socially.
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                An alcoholic and a loafer to a working person cannot be equal.

                a working person from the outback of Siberia cannot be equal to a Moscow alcoholic and a loafer lol we are equal before the law ... Only financial opportunities are unequal, I have nothing against it.
                By social equality I mean the possibility of development, education, the corresponding demand for labor, the possibility of a social elevator.
      2. aybolyt678 24 January 2020 08: 37 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        all were communists but damn it turns out they had nothing to do with communist ideology

        the fact is that starting from Khrushchev, communist ideology was turned into a religious cult, with all its attributes. The stagnation of late socialism is not the collapse of ideology but the inability to use mathematics in a planned economy. The inability was due to the fact that Khrushchev freed members of the Politburo from supervision and responsibility. He repeated the mistake of Nicholas 2 who released members of the imperial family from any responsibility. As a result, we saw the collapse of Tsarist Russia, the collapse of the USSR, and it can easily happen that Russia collapses if Putin does not start to plant former US ministers and citizens in key sectors of the economy.
        1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 09: 42 New
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          For the last paragraph plus. Putin just needs to narrow his circle. Ulyukaev was imprisoned, and how many are such uninjured. For example, Medina ...
          1. aybolyt678 24 January 2020 10: 59 New
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            Putin just needs to narrow his circle.

            for what??? Power is a burden and must be adequately borne. Can expand the circle of his friends to the size of the country wassat laughing ???? not to confuse state and personal, responsibility should be understood as a system of rewards and punishments. And you - narrow down !!! In addition, the problem of social elevators is very acute. Today it is impossible to break into the power of a person not from a system that does not accept its jackal laws.
            1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 11: 40 New
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              Extend the circle to the size of the country. That would be perfect.
              I want to be my Putin. Only he will have additional obligations to me.
              Stop speaking transparent, implicit, be proud of the Russians, return the word volunteer, crossing out the volunteers. So that people do not hepbiezdy each other, and led round dance. This all fits into the ideology of patriotism proclaimed by him. Only now I'm afraid the cat will hinder him again.
              1. aybolyt678 24 January 2020 14: 24 New
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                Quote: Gardamir
                ideology of patriotism

                I would suggest you debate on the subjectivity and subjectivity of patriotism. How deep in your soul is it necessary to be a patriot? how to be a patriot without affecting the personal space of the people around you ?, To what degree of self-conceit do you go in favor of Russian goods? ....
                1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 14: 33 New
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                  In the 19th century there were heated debates on this topic. Westerners, as always, bowed to the West. The Slavophiles fell into the other extreme, remember the wet-stoops instead of galoshes. The truth, as always in the middle.
                  1. aybolyt678 24 January 2020 20: 42 New
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                    Quote: Gardamir
                    The truth, as always in the middle.

                    Patriotism is proposed as an ideology, state, official. Hence this concept with a certain legal force and responsibility. That is, it should be clearly defined how many deep, inner experiences are there, and how many external manifestations
  5. Pessimist22 24 January 2020 06: 20 New
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    In the morning I smear a sandwich -
    Immediately thought: what about the people?
    And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
    And compote does not pour into your mouth!
    I will stand at the window at night.
    And stand all night without sleep
    All worried about Rasee,
    How is it, poor, is she?
    L. Filatov.
    1. parusnik 24 January 2020 07: 19 New
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      hi ... Igor, what is this for you? ... For the poetry of L. Filatov ...? .. They will write down what kind of ideology and poetry of L. Filatov for ideological reasons will be banned ... Judging by the minuses exposed to you, many consider them harmful ... smile hi
      1. Pessimist22 24 January 2020 07: 46 New
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        Greetings, Alex! I like poetry, but only with deep meaning, so I decided to post it here, I think Putin wakes up and thinks about us the same way. And the reaction is negative, it is from ignorance and lack of a sense of belonging to one’s people.smile hi
        1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 09: 49 New
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          Not even from education, but rather from uncertainty.
          Remember the passions around the film "Matilda" I then defined as a supporter of supposedly Orthodoxy. So some moderator even wrote me a ban. And after three days everyone already used this word combination.
          So you have not decided whether your quote offends the highest person.
          1. Pessimist22 24 January 2020 10: 35 New
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            Yes, I remember the battle of Matilda, the monarchists were furious, Alexander Romanov was a moderator then.
      2. Reptiloid 24 January 2020 19: 21 New
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        Quote: parusnik
        hi ..... They will write down what kind of ideology and poetry of L. Filatov for ideological reasons will be banned. smile hi
        Good evening, Alex! And right on these verses, or the consequence of them, the plot on TNT was yes --- Deputy ---- We think, worry .... and in the sauna I think ...... and in the Canary Islands I think ..... and in billiards ..... and massage ..... wassat tongue
  6. samarin1969 24 January 2020 06: 23 New
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    Well, why does pluralism in the Constitution haunt everyone? The official main value has already been declared a certain “humanism”. They are clogged with all declarations and training programs. In the real harsh world - “humanism” it is easy to cover up the apathy of domestic and foreign policy.
    Why, suddenly, the author decided that if they write “social justice” in the Constitution, will this change anything? There is already a fantastic style about the "source of power" and "the main value -" the man, his rights and freedoms. "
    Once upon a time, “constitutions” were invented to break down national states and the power of hereditary elites. Now “exceptions to the rules” have left only “slogans” from the “Constitution”.
  7. Ross xnumx 24 January 2020 06: 35 New
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    Will the provisions on state ideology be included in the Constitution of Russia

    After Putin’s promises not to raise the retirement age while he is in the presidency, I consider all the talk about any constitutional amendments to be groundless. It is said at a meeting in Zavidovo (from 1:10):

    Who is the guarantor of the constitution in the country? The guarantor said - the guarantor did ...
  8. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 24 January 2020 06: 38 New
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    Oddly enough, perhaps I am even against the return of state ideology. It will be like the May decrees of the president ...
    That is, they will form a multi-Talmudic plan for developing an ideology and implementing it locally, once again they will shake money from the people for new ministries and other things, plunder them half, put Tsereteli in the second half a sculptural composition - 200 meter Mannerheim in an embrace with Vlasov, and then break it unfinished at our request. And that’s all over.
    1. Qwertyarion 24 January 2020 08: 08 New
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      hi Andrew!
      Your feature articles about the new structure of society why not sold out?
      In the subject hacked?
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 24 January 2020 08: 59 New
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        No, nobody chopped. It’s just that I’ve been working in the main profession for half a year already, it has become trite once :)
        1. Qwertyarion 24 January 2020 09: 10 New
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          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          It became corny once :)

          Sorry .., the topic is interesting.
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      Oddly enough, perhaps I am even against the return of state ideology.

      Yes, and what will it still be in the framework of the capitalist system.
  9. parusnik 24 January 2020 06: 44 New
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    Society can only be transformed by the counter-elite, which should be born in the bowels of the current elite
    ... Bees, against honey ... laughing Corruptionists, against corruption, oligarchs, against gaining superprofits ...
  10. andj61 24 January 2020 06: 47 New
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    The author is right - ideology is needed, and a ban on it in the Constitution is nonsense, enshrined in 1993 "thanks" and not without the participation of the same American advisers. That's just to formulate exactly the state idea - the task is not simple, and it takes time.
    On the other hand, the author was surprised. To call Russians a sub-ethnic group doesn’t climb into any gates. The subethnos of the Russian ethnos will be Cossacks, Pomors, Chaldons, etc., scientists are seriously talking about the Russian superethnos. And here - "subethnos". The author needs to fix it! hi
    1. Ross xnumx 24 January 2020 09: 35 New
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      The author is right - ideology is needed, and a ban on it in the Constitution is nonsense

      That is, you think that the state needs this:
      Ideology is a combination of systematic ordered views that expresses the interests of various social classes and other social groups, on the basis of which the relationships of people and their communities to social reality as a whole and to each other are recognized and evaluated, or established forms of domination and power are recognized (conservative ideologies), or substantiates the need for their transformation and overcoming (radical and revolutionary ideologies).

      This quality is necessary for political parties, proclaiming certain views and programs, as well as recipes for building some kind of community.
      Without exception, all people living in the country practically cannot be adherents of one ideology. But a single morality in society can dominate. Morality, which allows to exclude the exploitation of man by man for the sake of satisfying lust, profit, and other bestial instincts.
      But in fact, the country should have statehood, which determines not only the very system of power (management of society), but also the methods and laws under which some social groups turn out to be "elite", laws for which dictate only the size of the wallet, and others as outcasts rags and without the right to vote.
      Nonsense is when they constantly say:




      and when they begin to see that this set of guarantees ceases to work, and the legal election change prepared by this code does not promise any "preferences", they go in a different, familiar to him way ... Without popular demand, without popular opinion ...
  11. polk26l 24 January 2020 07: 07 New
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    A very good article! It makes you think and evaluate those mistakes, and those state crimes that Gorbachev and Co. committed, followed by Yeltsin and Co., who destroyed the most powerful socially oriented state of the world - the USSR !!! There was a popular state ideology, there was the “Moral Code of the Builder of Communism,” which incorporated the best of human society, including the revised 10 commandments of our Lord Jesus Christ! The Russian people - (against the backdrop of the 90s of the breakup years, and subsequent ones, when the comprador oligarchy came to power, for free, having gained "frantic" power and wealth, began to break up and appropriate what was created and protected by blood , previous generations of ancestors), there was persistent nostalgia for a just and socially oriented USSR !!! This nostalgia is confirmed by modern polls of the people of Russia! Therefore, a well-thought-out, verified and calculated, socially oriented ideology enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation is definitely needed !!! This is a goal, a guideline for state development, for the benefit of the people and the state itself, for many years to come !!!
    1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 10: 10 New
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      So you are a plus, but correct. The code of the builder of communism has nothing to do with the Christian commandments.
      Somehow I collected Christian and Muslim commandments, a code of medieval man, criminal concepts. They all speak of one thing: respect the elders, care for the younger ones, worship Christ, Allah, the godfather. And the code is built on different principles. Joint work for the benefit of society.
      1. Victor N 24 January 2020 12: 16 New
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        Any individual who does not work for MYSELF will die out. And to share with one's neighbor, to help as much as possible, to act together - these are the rules for society and for each pack. But to work for YOURSELF is primary and MANDATORY.
        1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 13: 47 New
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          I agree. Healthy selfishness should be. But working together is good.
          I was about 10 years old when all relatives, relatives, cousins, second cousins ​​got together and built a house for us. Is free.
  12. Van 16 24 January 2020 07: 12 New
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    "In the light of the ensuing discussion" ..
    Do we have a discussion? Where? Who is discussing what? One visibility and dust in the eyes. Unless just here, in VO. But by and large, as the president says, they will write.
  13. GRIGORIY76 24 January 2020 07: 12 New
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    What for? The main goal of the "amendments" is the final seizure of power. Whether there are words about ideology or not, it doesn’t matter.
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    Gos. ideology is the direct path to dictatorship. No state. ideology will not change the elite, especially in Russia, where the Constitution is not a defining document. It is not executed.
    Therefore, any parallels with the States are inappropriate.
    For Russia state. ideology is the personal views of the ruling elite, as it always has been, and in Soviet times, so that they would not be written in the Constitution.
  15. Mihail55 24 January 2020 07: 15 New
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    I do not believe in all these delights with AGAIN the new constitution. This is just a piece of paper ... words! A kind of drawbar smile It is all over the world. Power determines life. The king gave his word, the king took his word ... I don’t see the point in this speed referendum. Here matters are needed fast. How long can I fly to the bottom ???
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    Will the provisions on state ideology be included in the Constitution of Russia

    Shaw for nonsense, how can a state ideology be prohibited? Then it’s not the state, so neither fish is meat.
    Although, sho ban, sho proclamation, this is an illusion. It was, is and will be, otherwise no one does.
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    The state needs ideology, who will argue. Only in the first reading the amendments were passed, and nothing will be added.
    The supremacy of international law will remove that bread.
  18. Professor 24 January 2020 08: 13 New
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    Want to go back in formation?
    1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 10: 17 New
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      Is it bad?
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        Quote: Gardamir
        Is it bad?

        To each his own. However, history teaches us that those who do not want to walk in the system ...
        1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 12: 03 New
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          Here is the story. If a lot of those who go in formation, then they drive the thinkers. Conversely, the "free" destroy those who love the system.
          1. 3danimal 24 January 2020 13: 04 New
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            Can you give examples where the "free" staged the killing of the "marching" in the concentration camps ??
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            Quote: Gardamir
            Conversely, the "free" destroy those who love the system.

            Free people never drive anyone.
            1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 14: 05 New
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              Now I watched one video. But truly free does not exist in principle. Democracy, only as long as democracy, as long as you live by its rules.
              I understand what you mean, so I'll play. Suppose in the Union everyone lived in a cage, now the door in the cage has been opened, but put on a chain.
              My freedom is something else. I agree not to switch to a red light across the road. Do not kill, do not steal, abide by the constitution. But why does the Rotenbergs, Gref have a different freedom?
              1. Professor 24 January 2020 16: 21 New
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                Democracy is a bad system, but they didn’t come up with anything better.
                1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 16: 35 New
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                  This Churchill said comparing Western democracy with the Soviet Union. By that time, cards were canceled in the Union, and in England for a long time people still could not buy products freely.
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                    Quote: Gardamir
                    This Churchill said comparing Western democracy with the Soviet Union. By that time, cards were canceled in the Union, and in England for a long time people still could not buy products freely.

                    Cards were canceled, but the counters were filled. And so on until the end of the scoop.
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                      What would you like to see on the shelves? Yes, there were no bananas.
                      There was food, clothes, a tape recorder, motorcycles, televisions.
                      1. Professor 24 January 2020 17: 12 New
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                        Yes, besides rotten potatoes, there was nothing. What kind of bananas are there? The food was. Sprat in assortment of tomato sauce. No clothes. Tape recorders, motorcycles and televisions are only in line at enterprises. There were no stores. Spirituality prevented people from shod and clothed.
                        But ideology was and system went.
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                        You don’t argue with me now, I remember how it was, you are hoping that young people will read and believe
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                        You don’t argue with me now, I remember how it was, you are hoping that young people will read and believe

                        So.
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                        But it was so. Empty counters, and those goods that were on the free market were of dubious quality and technologically backward. Due to my age, I remember it very well.
  • rudolff 24 January 2020 08: 27 New
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    The main goals and objectives of the state’s existence should be indicated, but ideology ... Putin recently called patriotism the only possible state ideology. If it is written in the Constitution, this will be the first step towards a civil war.
    In general, if our state is considered legal, then the ideology should be legality.
  • Boris55 24 January 2020 08: 46 New
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    Will the provisions on state ideology be included in the Constitution of Russia

    No, it won’t be right. Why - read below.

    Constitution Art. thirteen
    Clause 1. In the Russian Federation, ideological diversity is recognized.

    Ideology - This is a management concept set forth in a way that is understandable to the masses of the people so that it does not cause them to be rejected, let alone actively targeted against it.

    Goal of ideology - to clothe a conceptually beneficial concept in such ideological forms in which it would appear in the opinion of people to be handsome and therefore acceptable, in which the concept would not cause rejection, and even more so - targeted active opposition

    Ideological power - conceptually powerless, because it only adapts the concept to specific historical circumstances.

    Constitution Art. thirteen
    Clause 2. No ideology can be established as state or mandatory.
    Clause 3. In the Russian Federation, political diversity and multi-party system are recognized.


    There are no parties without ideologies:
    EP - bourgeois;
    Communist Party - Marxist;
    LDPR - liberal-democratic:
    SR - social - democratic, etc ..

    The party, which gained the majority of votes in the Duma elections, through the adoption of relevant laws, implements the ideas of its ideology. Today, such a party is the bourgeois party - United Russia. Its ideology, in fact, should be considered state.

    All those who propose establishing a state ideology, in fact, suggest returning Art. 6 to the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

    The Constitution of the USSR (1977). Article 6. The Communist Party of the Soviet Union is the guiding and guiding force of Soviet society, the core of its political system, state and public organizations. The CPSU exists for the people and serves the people.

    Armed with Marxist-Leninist teachings, the Communist Party determines the general outlook for the development of society, the line of internal and foreign policy of the USSR, directs the great creative activity of the Soviet people, and gives a systematic, scientifically substantiated character to its struggle for the victory of communism.


    As soon as some kind of ideology, some kind of party, and which ideology and which party appoints itself state, it’s not difficult to guess - United Russia, all state mechanisms for protecting it, suppressing dissent - other ideologies, other parties will immediately turn on.

    It is in this that the requirements to rewrite Art. 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

    I do not agree with this. No need to take away from me the right to change one ideology, one party, another ideology, another party. I do not like EP and its ideology of human-human exploitation. I want to have the right to replace her. I ask everyone not to deprive me of this right.

    ps
    Ideology is an instrument of conceptual power. All registered parties, carriers of ideologies, do not go beyond the prevailing concept. In order to fundamentally change something, it is necessary to change not the parties (ideologies), but the concept - to determine what we are building and what we want to leave to the children.
    1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 10: 21 New
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      And the sense of these supposedly right. Many would like to change and ban EP. Only in a year will I again “unanimously vote” for the party of officials and athletes.
      1. Boris55 24 January 2020 10: 50 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        Only in a year will I again “unanimously vote” for the party of officials and athletes.

        “No matter how they vote, it’s important how they count” in order to change something at the top, for a start you need to choose at the bottom of those who will consider it "right" ie as we need, and this is the most difficult.

        We are used to choosing from those who are offered to us, but we don’t want (we don’t know how) to offer our own, risk our money and put forward our candidate - the toad is strangling, but what if he with our money is bye-bye ...

        Until we all overcome our political infantilism, they will impose on us the power for which we will vote together, and then weep that we have chosen the wrong people again ...
        1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 11: 30 New
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          What does it mean to choose below, you mean members of election commissions?
          1. Boris55 24 January 2020 11: 53 New
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            Quote: Gardamir
            What does it mean to choose below

            I mean the local elected government, which appoints an election commission.

            Like it or not, but about local officials and candidates for these officials, we ourselves, through friends, through friends of friends, but more or less know who is breathing. That is what they need to be replaced first of all with a “neighbor” whom we trust, and there, as the hunchback said: “The main thing is to start, and the process will go” and it will go to the very top.
      2. Victor N 24 January 2020 12: 27 New
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        You walk that the "many" are not the "majority", but only the "few." There is no other way to establish who is more than the election. Hence.......
  • Esaul 24 January 2020 09: 15 New
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    Why does the state need ideology? This is a private matter for everyone. The state should serve the people, and not talk about what you can think about and what you can't. Here the state should have a goal, even several goals. For example, improving the quality and life expectancy, constant modernization of infrastructure, reducing inequality, eliminating poverty, etc.
    1. Gardamir 24 January 2020 10: 22 New
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      The goals you have listed are ideology.
      1. Victor N 24 January 2020 12: 31 New
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        That's it! But it already exists, is declared and is being implemented, although not as fast as one wants. To contribute to the decision - to increase own incomes, to decisively stop being poor.
  • Ros 56 24 January 2020 09: 21 New
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    No ideology, no state.
  • nikvic46 24 January 2020 09: 33 New
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    There is only one question, what ideology do we need. Most converge to patriotism. But love for the Motherland comes from many factors. First of all, what surrounds a person. This is nature, life and family. But even with the most desperate life, a Russian person He remains a patriot. It’s just that you don’t have to break a person. Our elite looks at vulgarity with emotion. Only because it was previously forbidden. Or maybe it was all rejected by man himself and the people? There is an American ideology, Iranian. What do we need?
  • Million 24 January 2020 09: 39 New
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    Judah can't have an ideology
  • Sotskiy 24 January 2020 09: 48 New
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    Will the provisions on state ideology be included in the Constitution of Russia

    Under the conditions of the ruling bourgeois system, the dominant ideology can only be bourgeois and no other. Does this not happen over the past 30 years? So what does the people want for the ideology of the ruling class to be enshrined in the RF RF as officially dominant or from the “miraculous”: that the bees rebel against honey? belay
  • AleBors 24 January 2020 09: 57 New
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    It is written well, only all this is intellectually divorced from life, except that a state without ideology is not a state but a crowd of peoples .. About the formation of counter-elites, it’s generally fantastic. IMHO, but without radical, even if painful changes, nothing itself will be formed.
  • My_log_in 24 January 2020 10: 02 New
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    To begin with - a small selection of statements about Russia and the Russian people.
    «The Russian man degraded and turned into an uninteresting scum of civilization - into a narcissistic, touchy, cowardly scum. I can say firmly, based on my own observations: a Russian man is the most vile, most disgusting and most worthless type of man on Earth ...» Alfred Koch, former head of the State Property Committee.
    «It would be easier for everyone in the world if the Russian nation ceased». Valery Panyushkin, journalist. "Rain".
    «It is time to stop the hypocritical lamentations about the feelings of veterans who are offended by attacks on Soviet power. Evil must be punishable». Alexander Podrabinek, politician.
    «If Russia were divided into parts, a normal number of parts would begin normal life». Julia Latynina, writer.
    «It would be better if Nazi Germany defeated the USSR in the 45th year». Alexander Minkin, publicist.
    «Exterminate! All without exception, fewer people - more oxygen! The Russian people are bothering you, they need to be eliminated! I do not call for a change of power! I call for a change of people!». Lyudmila Narusova, politician, wife of Anatoly Sobchak.

    Still not sick? Then continue
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    «For the most part, I consider Russian men to be animals, creatures of not even the second, but the third grade». Artemy Troitsky.
    «Russia is an ill-mannered, dirty beggar, evil and stupid, because such behavior does not cause an influx of benefactors. Russia must understand that its history is a history of illness and crime». Valeria Novodvorskaya, politician - God rest her soul.
    «Russian people are genetic trash». Ksenia Sobchak, TV presenter, recently - a former presidential candidate.
    «Russia as a Russian state has no historical perspective». Egor Gaidar, politician - repose Gd to his soul.

    So: the president does NOT have the right: to amend the Constitution (Articles 134-135), adopt laws (Articles 105, 107, 108), interpret them (Articles 125 paragraph 5), hold a referendum (Articles 84), ratify and denounce international treaties (Article 106 para. d), do not sign the law or amend it (Article 107 para. 3), form and appoint a government without the consent of other authorities (Art. 83 para. Art. 103 p. A), single-handedly appoint judges of the Supreme Court and the Prosecutor General (Art. 83, 102)
    Of course, the Constitution, which so limits the president’s capabilities, is not a divine tablet, and it can be changed.
    But for amendments to chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution, a Constitutional Assembly is required, which requires a federal constitutional law on the Constitutional Assembly, which requires at least three-fourths of the total number of members of the Federation Council and at least two-thirds of the total number of deputies of the Duma . Adopt this law has already tried, and several times, but so did not pass. And without the Constitutional Assembly, it is impossible to hold a nationwide referendum on changing the Constitution.
    1. Victor N 24 January 2020 12: 42 New
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      In a decent society, it is customary to demand satisfaction for insult. But who will accept such insults as decent authors in a decent society? They are outcasts and dirty because of high fences surrounded by their own kind.
      1. My_log_in 24 January 2020 12: 53 New
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        ...those. Federation Council (Narusova), Government of the Russian Federation (Gaidar, Kokh), Central Election Commission (Sobchak) - are they recruited by announcements? (rhetorical question)
  • Puzoter 24 January 2020 10: 02 New
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    Before making amendments to the constitution about ideology, this ideology must first be invented, and then unanimously accepted by the whole society. Well, in any case, ideology should not be repressive, but only advisory, otherwise it will violate all the main points of the constitution and give the authorities an arbitrary instrument of coercion.
    1. Puzoter 24 January 2020 10: 05 New
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      And on the other hand, ideology without coercion is a concussion. Conclusion - at the state level, ideology is not needed.
      1. Victor N 24 January 2020 12: 47 New
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        But what about those who like to teach, stigmatize and force? The adoption of any ideology makes it necessary to create an apparatus of ideological officials (previously called partocrats). Many more of these lovers left, did not accept, did not calm down .....
  • mag nit 24 January 2020 10: 13 New
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    And what about Putin’s May tales, than ideology?
  • My_log_in 24 January 2020 10: 22 New
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    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Our slogans do not roll .... Alas! hi

    ...because the "Justice is a relative concept, due to state necessity. Therefore, it is of various degrees and allows not only a twofold, but also a threefold interpretation."(c) one writer, author of books on alternative history.
    I’ll add from myself that I wouldn’t count the number of possible interpretations of justice, but would write in a simple way "... allows for multiple interpretations."
    That is how we live... hi
  • smaug78 24 January 2020 11: 18 New
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    The author read the Constitution ... Then you will not write nonsense about ideology ..
  • Radikal 24 January 2020 12: 20 New
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    Quote: Far In
    all were communists but damn it turns out they had nothing to do with communist ideology
    Vlasov was also a communist for the time being - and cho? Putin, too, was a communist (and even a KGB officer who took the oath of the USSR) for the time being - and cho? Have a membership card and be a communist - a few different things, do not you?
    not in 80 born
    Not in the 80s, that's right. She was the fruit of Khrushchev’s labors.
    in a country that has not lived for hundreds of years
    A little to substantiate? Or, following your logic, Russia is 29 years old today?

    good good good Respect! hi
  • sergant036 24 January 2020 12: 49 New
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    Absolutely agree. But in addition to the article on ideology, it is necessary to change the following articles, which impede Russia's acquisition of full sovereignty:
    Article 29, paragraph 5 Freedom of the media is guaranteed. Censorship is prohibited. You need to understand that censorship is a means of government and protection against malicious propaganda. But article 29, paragraph 5 deprives Russia of information security.
    Article 79 The Russian Federation may participate in interstate associations and transfer to them part of its powers in accordance with international treaties, if this does not entail a restriction of the rights and freedoms of man and citizen and does not contradict the foundations of the constitutional system of the Russian Federation. In article 79, we see that the Russian Federation can transfer part of its powers (for example, police or military) to international bodies, and whether this is violated by anyone’s rights or not will be decided by international bodies (see Article 15 para. 4 - on the priority of international treaties over Russian laws).
    Article 75, paragraphs 1, 2 1. The monetary unit in the Russian Federation is the ruble. Money emission is carried out exclusively by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. The introduction and issue of other money in the Russian Federation is not allowed. 2. Protection and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it carries out independently of other public authorities. Article 75 (paragraphs 1 and 2) states that “the monetary unit in the Russian Federation is the ruble”, and “the monetary issue is carried out exclusively by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation”, “which it carries out independently of other public authorities”. It turns out that the Russian state cannot control the issue of money. This function was taken by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which operates independently of the state. Who does the central bank report to? As you know, Russia is a member of the International Monetary Fund, and therefore the IMF is the only structure whose instructions should be followed by the Central Bank.
    1. Victor N 24 January 2020 16: 14 New
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      The Central Bank is free to carry out its functions, the IMF is completely sideways. Illogical conclusion. I am also a member of the philatelic society, but I do not receive any instructions. And I observe the rules voluntarily.
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  • iouris 24 January 2020 13: 55 New
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    Marx wrote that "ideology is a false consciousness." Ideology is a system of views of the social class regarding property relations (primarily on the means of production) and the distribution of products (social) production. The state is a consequence of the fact that society is divided into classes, between which there are antagonistic contradictions. For those born after historical materialism, I will explain that these contradictions are irreconcilable. Thus, state ideology is the ideology of the ruling class. The ruling class is not objectively interested in publishing theoretical propositions that reinforce actual inequality. Thus, state ideology objectively exists as a system of provisions that reinforce antagonism and prohibit the class struggle.
  • depressant 24 January 2020 17: 06 New
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    No country can exist without three basic potentials: territory, population and public authority.

    IDEOLOGY:
    1. In relation to the territory, it gives a justification for the territorial unity and integrity of the country.
    2. In relation to the people acts as an ideological, spiritual, activity motivator.
    3. In relation to the authorities provides strategic goal setting.

    There are few countries that prohibit state ideology.

    It was found that in Eastern Europe the lowest rate of population reproduction is in Bulgaria, it is an absolute outsider in this region, and state ideology is constitutionally prohibited.
    The only country in Western Europe with a constitutional ban on state ideology is Portugal, also an absolute outsider in the region in terms of population reproduction.

    Thus, the lack of state ideology is one of the reasons for the population decline.
    1. iouris 24 January 2020 20: 11 New
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      Dear Depressant, stop generating sociological concepts - this is not required, it is better to start reading. Science has gone quite far from you. Catch up with.
      Here, for example, a link to the most affordable option allows you to give this definition:
      Ideology (Greek ιδεολογία from ιδέα “prototype, idea” + λογος “word, mind, doctrine”) is a set of systematic ordered views that expresses the interests of various social classes and other social groups, on the basis of which the relations of people and their communities are recognized and evaluated social reality as a whole and to each other and either established forms of domination and power (conservative ideologies) are recognized, or the need for their transformation and overcoming (radical and revolutionary ideologies) is justified.
      Ideology is not a science, although it can be based on scientific knowledge. In contrast to science, ideology, as an expression of private interests in the form of universality, represents knowledge of socio-political life in relation to the interests of its constituent forces, setting on this basis an assessment of the desirability or undesirability of a particular social being. The ideology prevailing in a particular state, country or society is called dominant.
      1. depressant 24 January 2020 22: 04 New
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        Dear colleague, I'm not a professional sociologist))
        My area of ​​interest lies only in serious areas of mathematics. Imagine, an article, perhaps for the first time in my life, made me think about what ideology is. Although, of course, the word accompanied me all my life, and the concept itself was painfully trampled on it. But I understood this only now and decided to find out if states exist without ideology. And now, as soon as I type in the search engine "do they exist ...", the search engine immediately gives the prompts "do zombies exist", "do dragons exist" ...
        Laughing, I printed the request in the way I needed, and not the search engine, and received a response
        rusrand.ru/docconf/ideolog
        The site bribed me with the simplicity of the concept and graphic data. Having been imbued with the importance of the acquired knowledge, which makes it possible to evaluate colleagues' comments in a systematic way, and in the future, the ideological part of the Constitution after amendments to it, I arrogantly decided that the material would be useful for the rest of my colleagues. But if I offended you with this, forgive me generously love
        1. iouris 25 January 2020 13: 24 New
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          You have not offended me at all. I'm not a sociologist either. As a mathematician, you must understand that the development of science is to a large extent the development of concepts. Any concept is some result of the development of science. I am for everyone to make a feasible contribution to the development of science, and in order to develop concepts, you first need to master the accumulated knowledge and concepts. Otherwise, the discussion does not make sense. In addition, generations born "after historical materialism" are activated. In principle, they do not know the most important concepts and they have problems with the Russian (state, scientific) language.
          On the Internet, 97,5% are bullshit and 95% are bullshit. But this does not mean that the Internet is not a useful tool (under certain conditions) - 2,5% of useful information is quite a lot. I was taught that you need to know a little, you just need to know what to know, and to know what to know, you need to know quite a lot.
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            Quote: iouris
            you need to know a little, you just need to know what to know, and to know what to know, you need to know quite a lot

            Famously good Purely theoretically - it would be interesting to look at your dialogue with the so-called Gridasov.
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    there is no life, but you hold on ...
  • Tank jacket 27 January 2020 15: 07 New
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    Ideology is needed, otherwise officials cannot be sabotaged.
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    About two years ago, when we collected questions that our president was supposed to answer, the author of these lines also wrote a question. The question is what kind of state is V.V. Putin building, what are our goals, what are we striving for? There was no answer, although it was announced that all questions would be answered. The president also sided with this issue in his message. One of the main questions of philosophy is the question of what is primary, being or consciousness. If being is primary, then it would seem that rich people who stole enormous fortunes should have woken up to the fact that there are poor people and they definitely need to share banknotes in order to correct social inequality. However, this does not happen. Primary consciousness. As a person thinks, so he lives. Consciousness is a cumulative knowledge based on knowledge about the world order, about eternal life, that a person will be responsible for his actions before the Creator. Then, each of us will live according to the laws of the Cosmos, and not according to the laws of a man invented. This is the idea of ​​the development of society, its ideology. This is what should be prescribed in the main law.
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    The Jewish drug addict, the Jewish carrier, has pardoned, and the fellow citizens of Russia covering the activities of the police, which, according to the law of Vowel, are persecuted, fabricate them for a day, burn cars, intimidate children.