The Minister of Defense of Ukraine opposed the complete separation of forces in the Donbass

The Minister of Defense of Ukraine opposed the complete separation of forces in the Donbass

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is categorically against the separation of forces along the entire line of demarcation, as this contradicts the Minsk agreements. This statement was made by Ukrainian Minister of Defense Andrei Zagorodniuk.


According to the head of the Ukrainian military department, the withdrawal of forces along the line of demarcation can take years and lead to the freezing of the armed conflict, which Kiev does not need.

We are opposed to breeding along the entire line, because such a path is erroneous, and one that contradicts the very essence of the Minsk agreements. Who should they get divorced if they need to disarm? And how can you breed for years? It would turn into a frozen conflict. And we categorically do not fit recognition of the frozen conflict. Some politicians have said and are now saying: let's admit this is a frozen conflict. This is the wrong way, because it actually fixes an agreement with the situation that is now (...)

- he said.

Zagorodniuk emphasized that in order to end the conflict in the Donbass it is necessary that "separatists fulfill the Minsk agreements and leave."

This war can be ended - they just have to fulfill the Minsk agreements and leave. (...) But we had no conflicts in eastern Ukraine until 2014, no persecution on ethnic or linguistic grounds. This is a conflict that was created in 2014 absolutely artificially. As it was created, so it can be completed. If the Minsk agreements are complied with, then in full breeding along the entire line there is no sense

- he added.

At the same time, Zagorodniuk for some reason forgot to add that under the Minsk agreements, Kiev is obliged to grant LDNR a special status, recognize the elections held there and agree to an amnesty. Yes, and the very separation of forces along the entire front line is also a prerequisite for these agreements.
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  1. Thrall 22 January 2020 09: 51 New
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    Which country, such and ministers ...
    1. Andrey Chistyakov 22 January 2020 09: 55 New
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      Quote: Thrall
      Which country, such and ministers ...

      "There are miracles
      The goblin wanders there "(A.S. Pushkin)
      1. Hunter 2 22 January 2020 10: 00 New
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        It is simply amazing how in the ELEVEN clauses of the Minsk Agreement - the Non-Brothers regularly find “Fresh” definitions! belay
        Are they reading diagonally?
        1. Andrey Chistyakov 22 January 2020 10: 02 New
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          Quote: Hunter 2
          It is simply amazing how in the ELEVEN clauses of the Minsk Agreement - the Non-Brothers regularly find “Fresh” definitions! belay

          The breed is like that. Well, not like everyone else. "Exceptional" in one word.
        2. tihonmarine 22 January 2020 10: 47 New
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          Quote: Hunter 2
          It is simply amazing how in the ELEVEN clauses of the Minsk Agreement - the Non-Brothers regularly find “Fresh” definitions!
          Are they reading diagonally?

          Why read when you need to "make money". War is on, money is dripping, there is no war, money is not dripping.
        3. Zoldat_A 22 January 2020 10: 51 New
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          Quote: Hunter 2
          Are they reading diagonally?

          On the back of the sheet. It’s empty - you want to read it ... wink
        4. novel66 22 January 2020 10: 59 New
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          they read them like that!
        5. Karabin 22 January 2020 15: 04 New
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          Quote: Hunter 2
          It is simply amazing how in the ELEVEN clauses of the Minsk Agreement - the Non-Brothers regularly find “Fresh” definitions!

          Why be surprised? The non-brothers regularly find "fresh" definitions; the other side regularly sits at the negotiating table again. And the one that has no “Alternative to the Minsk Agreements” and is not a “Party to the Conflict” regularly gets sanctions.
      2. bessmertniy 22 January 2020 10: 03 New
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        It seems that the Ukrainian minister is simply incompetent and does not know his responsibilities for the implementation of the Minsk agreements. negative
        1. Andrey Chistyakov 22 January 2020 10: 04 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          It seems that the Ukrainian minister is simply incompetent and does not know his responsibilities for the implementation of the Minsk agreements. negative

          Are there any competent ones?
          1. tihonmarine 22 January 2020 10: 48 New
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            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            Are there any competent ones?

            Of course there is, they know how to "cut the loot."
            1. rich 22 January 2020 11: 43 New
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              The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine categorically opposes the separation of forces along the entire demarcation line, since this contradicts the Minsk agreements

              whistles like Trotsky. According to the Minsk agreements, the separation of forces along the entire front line is a prerequisite for these agreements.
    2. Alex Nevs 22 January 2020 12: 11 New
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      A la MinUkrSovBezSovkhoz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKlKx-3FcA
    3. Karabin 22 January 2020 14: 58 New
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      Quote: Thrall
      Which country, such and ministers ...

      Well, why not remember Medvedev, Serdyukov and Mutko wink
    4. venik 22 January 2020 18: 06 New
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      Quote: Thrall
      Which country, such and ministers ...

      =======
      Well, as usual .... The descendants of "ancient ukrov", as usual, try to be cunning .... more likely ALL !!! Type: "They will let them disarm there .... And then we will go and arrange a FULL" CLEARING "for them ......
      Yeah !!! Щ-щ-щ-ас-с !!!!! Only "slippers put on" and run to surrender .... At the mercy of the "winner" .....
      It seems that the WHOLE management there has HUGE problems with the “head” (well, or whatever they have instead of “this”) .......
  2. bober1982 22 January 2020 10: 02 New
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    How can such people, with such a "track record", be generally appointed defense ministers. The riddle.
    1. Thrall 22 January 2020 10: 11 New
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      Quote: bober1982
      How can such people, with such a "track record", be generally appointed defense ministers

      I agree. He didn’t go through the 95th quarter laughing
      1. bober1982 22 January 2020 10: 18 New
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        Quote: Thrall
        I agree. He e went through the 95th quarter

        Here, apparently, we need to look broader - in European countries such appointments of defense ministers (inadequate) are mandatory by the Americans, and the pressure is serious, this is a kind of NATO standard. The most curious thing is that the Americans themselves prefer to appoint professionals to such positions, but for Europe, without fail, such “cadres”.
        1. tihonmarine 22 January 2020 10: 49 New
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          Quote: bober1982
          but for Europe, without fail, such “cadres”.

          These are easier to manage.
    2. Baloo 22 January 2020 10: 32 New
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      Quote: bober1982
      How can such people, with such a "track record", be generally appointed defense ministers. The riddle.

      The answer: in the building of the SBU, one and a half thousand representatives of the FSA special services. There is someone to manage Bandera, there is.
      1. mikstepanenko 22 January 2020 13: 41 New
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        The answer: in the building of the SBU, one and a half thousand representatives of the FSA special services. There is someone to manage Bandera, there is.
        Bend a little, one and a half thousand people in the entire building of the SBU will not fit. There are “only” two hundred of them, occupy one floor, completely control all personnel appointments and some operations.
        1. Baloo 22 January 2020 14: 51 New
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          Quote: mikstepanenko
          The answer: in the building of the SBU, one and a half thousand representatives of the FSA special services. There is someone to manage Bandera, there is.
          Bend a little, one and a half thousand people in the entire building of the SBU will not fit. There are “only” two hundred of them, occupy one floor, completely control all personnel appointments and some operations.

          they don’t have to all sit in one place. But in general, the way it is. America is with us, America will help us, does this not remind you of anything?
  3. askort154 22 January 2020 10: 08 New
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    But in eastern Ukraine we had no conflicts until 2014, no persecution on ethnic or linguistic grounds. This is a conflict that was created in 2014 absolutely artificially.(Zagorodniuk)

    These are the “hand-driving” figures in Zelensky’s team. While people were amused in the “95th quarter”, they did not notice that the conflict began precisely because of the ban on the Russian language in the Russian-speaking region of Ukraine. And what is written in the Minsk agreements,
    they didn’t even read it. They say that the deputies are trembling gladly, who have not seen this agreement in their eyes.
    1. Air force 22 January 2020 10: 52 New
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      Unfortunately, they all perfectly noticed, understood and understood and knew, and when they made people laugh, they also knew everything, they just do not care about this people, it’s not possible during the times of universal access to information not to know the elementary truth, it’s not a conspiracy theological truth about in secret societies, it’s a civil war in a neighboring region, a lot of video evidence and it’s all checked at once, it concerns ordinary people who want to know the truth, it’s possible for grandmothers to flush their brains on the “zomboyaschik” well or who do not have access to the Internet, and the rest is either not x TJT know the truth, or it is beneficial to know the truth. As for all these Ukrainian officials, firstly they say what they were told to say, their initiative is punishable. And secondly, where will they get this breakthrough of the "atoshniks" who will return from the front? All production facilities have collapsed, there is nowhere to employ them, all the more so they are entitled to benefits, land, housing, discounts for communal services and other buns, and how many convicts they released in the atom, all this will return to the streets of Kiev and other cities, and they need it, therefore they don’t even need an end to the conflict, especially since it is a profitable business for hucksters of all stripes from deputies to volunteers.
  4. rocket757 22 January 2020 10: 13 New
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    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is categorically against the separation of forces along the entire line of demarcation, as this contradicts the Minsk agreements. This statement was made by Ukrainian Minister of Defense Andrei Zagorodniuk.

    Every pr ... interprets the arrangement as he wants. Nothing new.
  5. Igor Borisov_2 22 January 2020 10: 16 New
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    This war can be ended - they just have to fulfill the Minsk agreements and leave. (...)

    I wonder where to go if they live there ???
  6. Egoza 22 January 2020 10: 19 New
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    and what? The minister is "right"! withdraw the troops now, and the world will be declared. And who will pay for combat? What about business trips? And what about all kinds of “receipts” from partners? Really the minister yes will live on one salary? Here, in the Minsk agreements, there is no “leave everyone to the border of the region and no longer climb” - that means we will support agreements. And if they write this .... well, maybe by then another minister will already be.
  7. tihonmarine 22 January 2020 10: 29 New
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    Andryusha Zagorodniuk has more than 16 years of experience in senior positions in the mining and manufacturing sectors, and had no relation to the army. Previously, the "neighbors" had lousy defense ministers, but at least they understood what the army was. But the mine and the army, as it is not compatible.
    1. Baloo 22 January 2020 10: 34 New
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      But the mine and the army, as it is not compatible.

      Do you think the underground passage will dig in the Donbass?
      1. tihonmarine 22 January 2020 10: 56 New
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        Quote: Balu
        Do you think the underground passage will dig in the Donbass?

        If they dug up the Black Sea, why not dig an underground passage.
  8. eagle owl 22 January 2020 10: 33 New
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    , this is generally what - "with whom to get divorced. since THEY should disarm"? !!!!
    Tweet. Yes, even the most bitten by a trident in the head a pig does not throw a trunk with such a canoe - you should. do not understand? I owe nothing. Not in the paragraph that the requirement is fake. And in that. that "owe us." And we are not obliged to do anything. "And us for schO"
    Carpathians must be sanitized
  9. askort154 22 January 2020 10: 42 New
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    He looked "vika with one eye." Zagorodniuk - 1977 birth.
    He considers himself - the third generation of his family of oil workers ("golden youth")
    He graduated from Oxford and the Kiev Institute - a mining industrialist. Of course, he did not serve in the army. Engaged in the supply of drilling equipment. In the civil war he participated in the volunteer movement. He delivered to the army "potbelly stoves" and ambulances converted from collectors. He was a representative on the army reform team and was appointed Minister of Defense in August 2019. Here is such a "Bonaparte", now steers the "great army of Ukraine." crying
    1. tihonmarine 22 January 2020 10: 58 New
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      He was a representative in the army reform team.

      I imagine that such reformers from the army created.
    2. tihonmarine 22 January 2020 11: 00 New
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      Quote: askort154
      Here is such a "Bonaparte", now steers the "great army of Ukraine."

      We know one bonoparte, but he was at least a corporal.
  10. Sergey Averchenkov 22 January 2020 12: 59 New
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    “But in eastern Ukraine we had no conflicts until 2014, no ethnic or linguistic persecution. This is a conflict that was created in 2014 absolutely artificially.”
    All Ukraine was created artificially.
    1. mikstepanenko 22 January 2020 13: 35 New
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      “But in eastern Ukraine we had no conflicts until 2014, no ethnic or linguistic persecution. This is a conflict that was created in 2014 absolutely artificially.”
      But he told the truth, the conflict was created artificially. Just forgot to clarify KEM. The government that came to power as a result of a coup drafted, organized, and paid for by foreign special services.
  11. mikstepanenko 22 January 2020 13: 31 New
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    Ukraine is not lucky for the ministers of defense. Navy lieutenant (Tetyukh), who was promoted to admiral mainly in the press service in the United States. Police lieutenant, it is not clear for what merits he hastily became an army general. This one (Geletey) was famous for inventing a new kind of troops - the armored police, and for the freedom to use atomic weapons (our valiant troops left the Lugansk Airport only after the Russian troops dropped two atomic bombs on it). This is not a joke, this is a real statement by the Minister of Defense. The next Minister of Defense made a landmark discovery in geography, the direction of the north-south. Also not a joke, we will advance in the direction of the north-south of the Lugansk region. You are not surprised at anything.
    1. avdkrd 22 January 2020 15: 45 New
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      I didn’t know such details, they really made fun. I sincerely wish the non-brotherly state such a talented governor. This is even more enchanting Klitschko. I really approve.
      1. mikstepanenko 22 January 2020 18: 41 New
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        I didn’t know such details, they really made fun. I sincerely wish the non-brotherly state such a talented governor. This is even more enchanting Klitschko. I really approve.
        And why such a governor? Because there are no others. In 2014, I remember there were reports of mass layoffs. I remembered that at one time several hundred senior officers were fired for refusing to participate in "repelling Russian aggression." Hence the sudden careers of police lieutenants to army generals.
  12. iouris 22 January 2020 13: 35 New
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    Digestive disease (thumped the day before and did not shave)? Violates the uniform (no headgear) and drill charter (hand in pocket). Ugh.
    1. Reserve buildbat 23 January 2020 16: 49 New
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      You think, IT aware of such requirements? laughing
  13. Vasyan1971 22 January 2020 13: 47 New
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    At the same time, Zagorodniuk somehow forgot ...

    No wonder, since the memory is selective ...
  14. Old Michael 22 January 2020 14: 08 New
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    Some politicians have spoken and are now spoken

    "Ukrainian politician" is from a company of British scientists, Canadian intelligence officers and Estonian rapid reaction forces.
  15. Looking for 22 January 2020 14: 59 New
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    Quote: Thrall
    Which country, such and ministers ...

    circus country. ministers-clowns.
  16. avdkrd 22 January 2020 15: 39 New
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    Where does the outskirts find so many mentally defective heroes?
    The second question - why do we all have taxi employees?
  17. Madness 22 January 2020 16: 22 New
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    This war is beneficial for Kiev, they pay well for it, especially when the Slavs kill the Slavs to the joy of the West.
  18. Dzafdet 22 January 2020 16: 43 New
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    I wonder what kind of vodka he drinks? So picky! Ukrainians just need to leave the republics and the conflict will be settled. To go wild for all death and destruction ...
  19. sgr291158 23 January 2020 08: 20 New
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    Yes, when you all have their heads torn off.
  20. Victor March 47 23 January 2020 16: 33 New
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    This boob cannot read. There is no mention of any periods in years. It says that troop deployment MUST be done. Dot.
    If they have a deficit in competent defense ministers, we can offer to extend the power of Comrade Shoigu .... We will help, because the load will increase.
  21. Victor March 47 23 January 2020 16: 35 New
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    Quote: Seeker
    Quote: Thrall
    Which country, such and ministers ...

    circus country. ministers-clowns.

    ... the president is a jerk.
  22. Reserve buildbat 23 January 2020 16: 42 New
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    "This is a conflict that was created in 2014 absolutely artificially." - Here I completely agree with this clown. The conflict was the result of the coming to power in Kiev of a gang of mattress puppets, who began to try to destroy the Russians on the original Russian lands. And while such victims of genetic experiments are sitting in Kiev, the end of the conflict is not even visible on the horizon.