The British introduced the new Challenger 2 tank for action in urban environments

Modified British main tank Challenger 2 Streetfighter II

In the UK, the first tests of a modified sample of a modified British main tank Challenger 2, designated as Streetfighter II. This was reported by the magazine "Jane's Defense Weekly".

According to the publication, the first tests of the new “city” tank took place at the beginning of December 2019 at the British center of combat training in urban conditions Copehill Down at a military training ground in Salisbury. On December 5, 2019, at the same training ground, the new Challenger 2 Streetfighter II tank was presented to senior representatives of the British Army and the British Ministry of Defense.

According to the publication, tests of a new model of the Challenger 2 Streetfighter II tank have been going on since 2018, although the further prospects of this modification are still not clear. It is noted that the tank was developed on its own by the Royal Tank Corps with the participation of the British Defense Ministry Research Center

A feature of this model of the modified Challenger 2 Streetfighter II tank is the installed system of "transparent" or "situational armor" IronVision Israeli company Elbit Systems. "Transparent armor" is a system of all-round visibility through a series of cameras on the tank body, transmitting a circular image in real time to the helmet-mounted indicators of crew members.

The IronVision system was first installed on the Challenger 2 Streetfighter II instead of the original Brimstone II long-range anti-tank missile launcher, originally placed on the roof of the tower.

Also, the Challenger 2 Streetfighter II tank is equipped with a new communication system, modified external compartments for property placement and a bulldozer dump. A 12,7 mm M2 machine gun in a remotely controlled combat module (in addition to the standard 7,62 mm machine gun on turrets) and a 60 mm mortar were installed on the tank turret. The camouflage color of the tank was borrowed from the “urban camouflage” of armored vehicles of the British Berlin motorized infantry brigade of the 1970s and 1980s.

Comments

[tihonmarine]

People, when will we stop creating means of killing, is it not time to invent a new tractor instead of tanks?

[fruit_cake]

so you go write to those in power, to all these democrats and other liberals whose military budgets are larger than the budgets of individual countries

[tihonmarine]

Quote: fruit_cake

so you go write to those in power, to all these democrats and other liberals whose military budgets are larger than the budgets of individual countries

Here is the answer.

[old friend]

You are clearly on the wrong site)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: old friend

You are clearly on the wrong site.

Yeah, I know. I’m not against the fight.

[carstorm 11]

the thing is that creating a tractor instead of tanks you simply will be left without tractors, too, because whoever has the tanks will want your tractors too. and since you don’t have tanks, they don’t sweat too much) the world is arranged so that pacifism only brings war closer) the temptation is too great to get everything at once.

[eagle owl]

Well, then how to say. As for us, this is true. As for Europe, I have a firm conviction. that there is a little wrong. "War must feed itself." And what is the point of capturing Germany for example? What will the winner get? Slaves? Earth? Brain? Brains cannot work from under the stick. And there are no resources there - there is nothing to plunder.
True, there is one option - the destruction of a competitor, just destroy - and capture its market share

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Uhu

True, there is one option - the destruction of a competitor, just destroy - and capture its market share

The truth is yours.
A simple example is the former "brothers". Everyone who lived in the Soviet Union remembers the Bulgarian vegetable and fruit preserves - from peas in a salad for the New Year and ending with nectar in glass bottles. You will still laugh, but now in the Bulgarian stores there is sold pepper, which we call "Bulgarian", originally from Turkey ...

[pytar]

True yours. A simple example is the former "brothers". Everyone ... remember the Bulgarian vegetable and fruit canned food .... You will still laugh, but now in the Bulgarian stores you can find pepper, which we call "Bulgarian", originally from Turkey ...

I apologize for interfering in the dialogue, but given you "an example has little to do with reality! I understand that this mantra is constantly replicated in Russian-speaking resources, but the truth is different ... Agriculture in Bulgaria is seasonal. In summer, they are grown and sold mainly Bulgarian vegetables and products. Up to 70% of the products sold in stores are produced in Bulgaria. In winter, exports from warm countries increase. There are also greenhouse ones, but they are more expensive. Fact: Bulgaria exported agricultural products in 2019 for about 5 euros! Mainly cereals, as they are more profitable.

[eagle owl]

Well, God forbid. But your bed, unfortunately, has disappeared tightly with us - this is a fact. The good thing was

[pytar]

Lecho is made and sold with us. Unfortunately from Russia. markets are gone. In recent years, efforts are underway to return.
https://rus.bg/esche/interesno/interesno/29034-mir-bolgarii-v-moskve-vse-chto-bolgarskaya-i-ne-tolko-dusha-pozhelaet

[eagle owl]

Listen, it’s just interesting - what’s so? Was there any sanction with you?

[pytar]

Listen, it’s just interesting - what’s so? Was there any sanction with you?

The reasons are many. This is a long story to tell and this is not the place.

[mikstepanenko]

I apologize for interfering in the dialogue, but you have given "an example that has little to do with reality! I understand that this mantra is constantly being replicated in Russian-language resources, but the truth is different ...
It's just a pity that the Bulgarians themselves do not know about this "other truth".
"Approximately 90% of the vegetables and fruits consumed by Bulgarians are imported, and domestic production has been completely destroyed," said Chavdar Marinov, Executive Director of the Bulgarian Association of Fruit and Vegetable Producers' Organizations. According to statistics for the last 10 months of 2018, the import of fresh vegetables increased by 11,7% over the year, reaching 226,7 thousand tons, and fresh fruit - by 9,4% and amounted to 255,3 thousand tons. "

[pytar]

Dear Mikhail, I do not want to enter into disputes on issues not related to the topic. There is talk about tanks ... I will answer just once: your quote comes from BAOPOF. 5-7% of all manufacturers are members of it. BAOPOF wants to finish off more government subsidies. At the same time, according to the Institute of Market Economics, about 70% of the goods sold in large retail chains in Bulgaria are produced in the country. I buy Bulgarian vegetables and fruits in the summer, the markets are full of them! Nowadays, they are actually produced much less o.f. than before. At the same time, small Bulgaria has become one of the world leaders in the export of grain and oilseeds. For some positions, we have come out on top in the world. Due to the climatic features of the country, vegetables are more expensive and more capricious to grow than grain. And "white gold" is like oil! The ego can be transported anywhere! Production of ov. and fr. growing, but with a bias towards eco- and organic products. Less quantity, but high quality. We don't have much land, 1/2 of the territory of the country is a mountain! For 3 years, the area of ​​sites for bio-farming has increased 7 times. In 6 alone, the production of greenhouse vegetables increased by 2018%! In summary: We export agricultural products for 28 billion euros, we import for 5 billion! The shops are full, the variety is huge! During social events, our counters were empty. It was difficult to find not something imported, but even native.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: carstorm 11

and since you don’t have tanks, they don’t sweat too much) the world is arranged so that pacifism only brings war closer) the temptation is too great to get everything at once.

No, everything is easier "war is profit and extra profit".[B] [/ b]

[Paul Siebert]

Yes, they were all there in Salisbury "Novice" sniffed.
Highley-Likely! "
They already have a large tank - a small hatches ...
An opaque hint of a Russian nesting doll!

[NEXUS]

Quote: tihonmarine

People, when will we stop creating means of killing, is it not time to invent a new tractor instead of tanks?

I once wrote that if all the efforts and money that is invested in war and military development were put into medicine, for example, then humanity has long forgotten about diseases such as cancer, diabetes, AIDS, and so on ...

[mikstepanenko]

I once wrote that if all the efforts and money that is invested in war and military development were put into medicine, for example, then humanity has long forgotten about diseases such as cancer, diabetes, AIDS, and so on ...
I can’t say anything about diabetes, I don’t know. Cancer, according to the situation as of the middle of the last century, has been studied enough so that this problem can be solved completely, to make the concept itself obsolete. And the means for this are needed, compared with those spent now, very modest. And AIDS was a scam from the very beginning.

[NEXUS]

Quote: mikstepanenko

I can’t say anything about diabetes, I don’t know.

50 years ago, diabetes was not a very common disease, and now it has crossed the line of the epidemic.

Quote: mikstepanenko

Cancer, according to the situation as of the middle of the last century, has been studied enough so that this problem can be solved completely, to make the concept itself obsolete.

There are a lot of oncology types, therefore the problem is not so easy.

Quote: mikstepanenko

And AIDS was a scam from the very beginning.

However, this virus is deadly, if not cool.

[mikstepanenko]

This is not the topic of the site, but because if you want to continue then in personal correspondence. What I wrote can confirm with evidence. For a week of reading, to email.

[orionvitt]

Quote: tihonmarine

People, when will we stop creating killing means?

Maybe it's time, but only as long as humanity is alive, this will not happen. There are a lot of scum that have always been and always will be. Not on one side, but on the other. No matter how inside, so outside. I recalled an old joke:
There is a passerby looking, a little girl in the sandbox of a kitten is tormenting. A passerby asks:
- Girl, don’t you like animals?
The girl looked at him with a "kind" look and said:
- Yes, I don’t really like that either.

[Tank jacket]

Do not worry, this tank was created to participate in the civil war against Scotland and Ireland.

[Alexfly]

You’ll get a little tractor out of the tank; it’s already been checked by grandfathers after the Second World War.

[Prisoner]

Which tractor? For "urban action"?

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

"Cool", the fighter in front covers the retreating tank. There would be more such fighters and exercises in NATO.

[Mihail2019]

Yeah, and the type "wounded" lying in the bulldozer dump in front of the tank, but during the retreat, also surprised a lot!
Directly the most "safe" place, you can't find it better !!!

[Thrifty]

The new tank would be Challenger 3, and then a NEW MODIFICATION! The author probably knows the difference, I think so. ..

[Buffet]

What kind of city tank is it if the commander needs to lean out of the tower to shoot from a machine gun? The sniper will say thanks ...

[Alex_You]

The city tank as such does not exist in principle.

[Romario_Argo]

I agree, everything in the tactics of using tanks with interfacing them with the work of the BMP
in Syria, our T-72s in "body kit" have been perfectly ironing city blocks for 5 years

[signifera]

Put the wounded in front of the tank on the dump, and hide behind the stern and go back. These are the warriors. What percentage that they will bring him alive)))

[Mihail2019]

Exactly! My jaw dropped in this shot! Well, hang a mesh "basket" on the stern in such a case - the exhaust is still on the left at the back, and not in the stern, like in the "Abrasha" or our T-80!

[Amateur]

The total mass of the tank of the latest modifications adopted after its first combat use (after 2003) reaches 74,95 tons, taking into account the anti-cumulative gratings, bulwarks and non-reactive DZ plates (NERA type) placed in addition to them

I wonder where he can ride with such weight?

[Mihail2019]

Probably best of all for hardware, on four-axle platforms.

[Klingon]

Quote: SHVEDsky_stol

What kind of city tank is it if the commander needs to lean out of the tower to shoot from a machine gun? The sniper will say thanks ...

in terms of need to stick out for shooting? it is written, a machine gun on a remote turret. Can you beguiled with T-72B3 ??

[knn54]

Nowadays, decisive battles will take place in large cities.
As an example, unique assault groups, which included in their composition and the T-34 during the capture of Koenigsberg.
And the sad "experience" during the storming of Grozny, in the first Chechen war.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: knn54

And the sad "experience" during the storming of Grozny, in the first Chechen war.

If the army does not have such a shame as Pasha-Mercedes, then such a "sad experience" will no longer exist. He promised to take Grozny with one RAP, but introduced tanks. I'm not sure about one RAP, but to fill the city with "targets" ... Great, damn it, a military leader, so that he would get hot THERE ...

[Sanichsan]

this is not an urban tank, this is a village tank! The British Army’s planning horizon is limited to entering the village.

[prodi]

Well, the trunk of a car for urban battles should rise to at least 70 degrees

[Kerensky]

Opensource projects ... A hackneyed approach. For the city you need to fence the car from scratch. That's why he needs a long barrel, for example? And he will plant all the cameras with dust and soot - he will have "transparent armor" ...

[voyaka uh]

The most important thing is not said: did they replace the rifled gun with a shotgun loading with a standard NATO smoothbore?

[Alex_You]

The gun shows that this is a good old L30.

[voyaka uh]

They tested the Rheinmetall 120 on the Challenger. Looks like there is no money to replace.
As a city tank Challenger 2 does not pull. Without KAZ, there’s nothing to talk about. It’s not enough to see 360 ​​degrees from the inside. We must also be able to catch ATGMs in 360.

[Alex_You]

Without KAZ, there’s nothing to talk about. It’s not enough to see 360 ​​degrees from the inside. We must also be able to catch ATGMs in 360.

I agree one hundred percent. Even there is no banal TUSKa, not to mention the trophy, can we let them drive?

[shinobi]

A tank in a city battle against a staffed infantry squad, a big target. It will get from above into an engine compartment from an RPG or a tank and remember what it was called. In police actions, where apart from the rifleman the enemy has nothing, this fool of more than 70 tons is useless. In urban combat, heavy bmp and bmpt are needed.

[starik80]

Therefore, in the city they use art systems of 120 mm and higher, and not BMPs that cannot fold a brick house and a little more than a strong building. A couple of "mediocre" snipers of your "standard infantry squad" will be put with their noses on the asphalt and will not be allowed to develop the offensive. Do not trust? We will not refer to the experience of the Second World War, watch youtube "Battles for Deir ez-Zor" an hour-long film the operator was walking 300 meters from the assault groups. There is nothing to do there without a direct fire tank. The tank as an anti-sniper weapon is unmatched in the suppression of firing points, the destruction of enemy fortifications, etc. Without it, nowhere.

[shinobi]

A tank against a sniper is from complete despair. A counter-sniper group with the appropriate weapons must work against the sniper and enter the infantry squad. In a city battle, where in full civilians, you will be putting art into the house? The enemy’s city, okay, back and forth. Based on your logic, the carpet bombing of residential buildings as the Yankees did in the Second World War, it’s the very thing. Something is trifling. A bomb is half a ton, or a tulip is on a high-rise building, for sure. Something there tank 125mm or 152 at the sau. it’s necessary along the residential block, like Georgians.

[starik80]

youtube "Battles for Deir ez-Zor" tank with direct fire. An anti-sniper group is a "police operation" and a luxury during the war, there is an assault group and a couple of tanks, the enemy sniper usually makes the first shot and unmasks, then the tank works. The difference between a police officer and an officer who graduated from a combined-arms school is precisely in this, a police officer for minimizing civilian losses, and a combined-arms officer for minimizing losses in a unit. Since we are talking about a tank, the police do not have tanks, so we are talking about combined arms combat. Withdraw the tank with direct fire and five high-explosive rounds on the floor to the area where the sniper or the firing point is located (the building may simply fold down) ... the whole task is complete, no losses. The BMP does not have such firepower and therefore it is only a means of strengthening.

[shinobi]

Do you want to fight like this? On a large scale? I hasten to upset you, or can make you glad, such a war is no longer possible with Russia. Glory to Stalin and Beria, with all my nuuu, there is a very ambiguous attitude towards them. Whatever they wove in the West, they will fight with us they can only verbally and financially. The time of global conflicts has passed, and thank God. The war in Syria is a separate conversation and far from an indicator. As a matter of fact, they are fighting, full of stories from our military who was there. To suppress a sniper, it’s quite wise to use the same BMP-3. If without cereals th caliber does.

[sledak]

Now at least it’s clear why the Britons need a dozer blade - to evacuate the wounded.

[Mihail2019]

An economical option, you can't say anything - to give a full-fledged MBT to the assault group for the evacuation of one or two wounded in the attached bulldozer blade. Although, with this approach - more likely already, two bodies .. For to think of such a thing - you have to be real "bites" !!

[Catfish]

Tank in town? And they heard about RPG-7 from the vents of the basement?
And what the hell is that with a thick barrel sticking out at the left along the hatch on the tower?

[Krasnodar]

Watching where to fuck this RPG - 7
If really from the basement - I don’t envy RPGist
In Bethlehem, at the beginning of zero fire, RPG-7s were shot at the undercarriage of M-60 reservists. As he rode, he continued

[Catfish]

The arrows were horseradish, or RPG Chinese.

[Krasnodar]

Arrows - possibly RPG - Soviet))

[JonnyT]

They gather in comfort, while drinking English tea, to shoot Aboriginal people as in a video game.

[Incvizitor]

All the same, it seems to me that the terminator is best for the city, there the armor is good and it’s covered everywhere and 30Ks from the buildings are knocked out and 9M120F rockets, KAZ would be added there ...

[Krasnodar]

For the city, it is best not to introduce armored vehicles there

[Incvizitor]

Without the support of the city’s armored vehicles, take this ...

[Krasnodar]

Why without support? In the outskirts, after stripping quarters, etc.

[Incvizitor]

From the tactics of urban battles were:

To avoid undesirable losses, tanks should advance at the same pace as advancing infantry units, without losing visual communication with them.

As a rule, when attacking ground targets, an assault group has to move through open and well-shot areas; in order to minimize losses at this stage, fire support units (or attached fire weapons) should provide tight suppression fire. Another cover option is a smoke screen. (I think it’s better when both)

The best way to get into the building, taken by a backer, to use the breaks in the wall, done in the course of the fire preparation of the stamp. For these purposes, it is necessary to provide tanks and equipment, driving a direct fire, installing ATGM, etc.

Acting in collaboration with assault groups, armored vehicles should be on both sides of the street, as close to buildings as possible, supporting the assault groups with fire.

BMPT does not have such a limited range of pointing angles in the vertical plane as MBT,

Infantry fighting vehicles, in this case, have advantages. Their 30mm automatic guns can go up to 60 degrees.

the truth is very vulnerable, BMPT has much better protection, the only open speaker module I consider vulnerable, but if you act more carefully then the modules will be more intact.

[Krasnodar]

The issue of saturation with the PT-flank of the enemy.

[bars1]

IMHO, buy a T-14, and another BTT with a DBM without an analogue of Iron Vision - let the money go. Either an inhabited tower, or a DBM with an analogue of Iron Vision. The rest is half measures.

[AB]

I wonder if it will withstand a shot from an IG-7VR "Resume" from an RPG-7, into the bochin or from above? I think no. Burn them all in the city. Only the lazy do not have RPG-7 now.

[Alex_You]

Nda, city tank. If only they asked the Americans for a TUSK kit for familiarization, not to mention the Israeli "trophy". 42 mm with an anti-cumulative shield in the board. If only ARAT was really hung up. Although it has its own:

[Victor March 47]

Quote: tihonmarine

People, when will we stop creating means of killing, is it not time to invent a new tractor instead of tanks?

To fulfill your dream, you just need to move you to a desert island. Without supplying ANY tools for killing the living.

[Mihail2019]

The first stone found - and the arms race will begin!
A man in terms of murder weapons of his own kind is an extremely inventive bastard !!

[Old Michael]

A man in terms of murder weapons of his own kind is an extremely inventive bastard !!

Perhaps the hippies were somewhat right (“Make love, not war!”)

[Reserve buildbat]

A wonderful movie! First, a "soldier" of 150 kilograms of cellulite barely rolls through the window, then the "wounded" is poked with a barrel in the nose, then the "wounded" is taken out on a bulldozer dump. Not to mention the fact that such a "streetfighter" that barely moves is a grenade launcher's dream.

[jekasimf]

I’m interested as an NOT specialist. What will happen to all-round cameras after several Molotov cocktails, dust from destructible buildings and a machine-gun barrage hit the tank, which will take place in street battles. I'm not talking about the use of RPGs. For which city conditions are ideal.