Ukrainian aircraft construction can not do without Russian components

Ukrainian aircraft construction can not do without Russian components

The threat of a complete halt to the production of aircraft and the disruption of contracts was looming over Ukraine. This was caused by the refusal of the Antonov aircraft plant to cooperate with Russian enterprises, the Kiev newspaper Den reports.


According to the publication, all aircraft designed by Antonov were largely dependent on Russian components, and the An-148 was completely assembled in Voronezh. After the 2014 coup, politicians who came to power severed all ties with Russia, thereby cutting off supplies of components, and attempts to negotiate with Western suppliers came to nothing.

For all time, Ukraine managed to assemble only two aircraft without Russian components: An-178 and a demonstration copy of the An-132D. The An-178 won the tender in Peru and the Antonov leadership insists that they are ready to wait until another aircraft is assembled in Ukraine without Russian components, but the aircraft will be delivered in 2021 and there are no replacement parts. The An-132D project was never implemented due to a change in power in Saudi Arabia. The demo can’t even be sold.

On “Antonov” they claim that they did everything they could to abandon the Russian parts, but this requires more than two hundred million dollars, which the state never allocated.

At the same time, Vladimir Semenov, director of corporate rights and investment projects at Motor Sich, called for the lifting of sanctions against a number of Russian enterprises to complete the construction of aircraft in Ukraine.

We have already compiled a list, sent it to the Verkhovna Rada, the government and the National Security and Defense Council - exclude 23 enterprises from the list of sanctions, give Antonov an opportunity to work. Only 23 enterprises. This will give an impetus. Do not want to - stop

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  1. Kleber 19 January 2020 10: 20 New
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    to abandon the Russian parts, but for this we need more than two hundred million dollars, which the state never allocated.


    And do not highlight. Why anger the west with competition.
    1. bessmertniy 19 January 2020 10: 24 New
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      The West does not need aircraft construction in Ukraine. And in general, he does not need it as a country with a developed industry. He needs her in the role of a banana republic. lol
      1. maxim947 19 January 2020 10: 24 New
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        We have already compiled a list, sent it to the Verkhovna Rada, the government, and the National Security and Defense Council - exclude 23 enterprises from the list of sanctions,

        What's the point? Whatever lists you make, there will be no deliveries from Russia. Until Ukraine fulfills its obligations for products advanced by our enterprises in rather large amounts. Or let the advances return, but this is from the realm of fiction.
        1. LiSiCyn 19 January 2020 10: 40 New
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          Quote: maxim947
          Or let the advances return, but this is from the realm of fiction.

          I agree. The enterprises have no money. And the state, FIG. It is possible, of course, by barter, but this is subject to availability in warehouses, which I doubt.
          1. krot 19 January 2020 13: 28 New
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            Sumerians at the factory look like hammers and pliers bending frames for aircraft lol And then they carefully process it with a file .. Therefore, for so long! For the manual work! laughing
          2. orionvitt 19 January 2020 14: 36 New
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            Quote: LiSiCyn
            The enterprises have no money. And the state, FIG will give

            You sound it all. For 200 million green money, it is simply impossible to establish the production of complex units and components, especially since their need for the "Ukrainian aviation industry" is literally calculated piece by piece. And the number of such imported components in the same ANs is under 50%. What they built "on their own", most likely due to the remains from the warehouse.
            1. LiSiCyn 19 January 2020 15: 31 New
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              Quote: orionvitt
              For 200 million green money, it is simply impossible to establish the production of complex units and components, especially since their need for the "Ukrainian aviation industry" is literally calculated piece by piece.

              I meant advances received from Russia. For engines, etc.
              Quote: orionvitt
              What they built "on their own", most likely due to the remnants from the warehouse.

              Let them return what they should (with goods). And then, you can talk about barter.
        2. Fantazer911 19 January 2020 15: 09 New
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          In addition to financial injections, power plants previously paid must be returned!
        3. 210ox 19 January 2020 19: 37 New
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          Why do you think there will be no supplies? Well, we supply them with petroleum products, although we know where it will go. We live in a gaddy world of capital where profit is the main thing. And all the rest is words.
      2. major147 19 January 2020 11: 13 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        He needs her in the role of a banana republic.

        Without your potato .....
        1. rich 19 January 2020 17: 40 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          He needs her in the role of a banana republic.

          modern Ukraine is not predictable and does not remember good. The West is at great risk
    2. Starover_Z 19 January 2020 10: 26 New
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      After the 2014 coup, politicians who came to power severed all ties with Russia, thereby cutting off supplies of components, and attempts to negotiate with Western suppliers failed.

      There is Airbus in Europe, why should they raise and grow a competitor? Although which of the "Antonov" competitor without the old cooperation with factories in Russia and the CIS?
      1. Zoldat_A 19 January 2020 11: 58 New
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        Quote: Starover_Z
        Although which of the "Antonov" competitor without the old cooperation with factories in Russia and the CIS?

        Really, it finally came to the jumpers that Antonov, Motor Sich, DneproGES and EVERYTHING that was there was not the merit of country 404, but the fact that the whole country was building. That the price of Ukraine as an independent production unit without a connection with Russia is minus three kopecks.

        Cut off the man’s left foot and right arm. Can he live? Can. But shitty ...
        1. Incvizitor 19 January 2020 17: 17 New
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          Cut off the man’s left foot and right arm.
          there most likely the head with the brains was cut off.
    3. IL-18 19 January 2020 10: 39 New
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      Quote: Kleber
      anger west

      An-132 for Saudi Arabia, for example? There, assembly is already envisaged in the country of the customer, using a huge range of products from Western production. Those. new production, in any case, will depend on them. That's just, the Ukrainian aviation industry does not exactly bother them, because there is virtually no production there, and the Saudis may reconsider their plans in favor of operating quite successful companies, albeit more expensive, but money is not wasted.
      1. AU Ivanov. 19 January 2020 16: 09 New
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        An-132? Maybe you should stop kicking the corpse of An-26 grandfather with half a century of freshness?
        1. IL-18 21 January 2020 21: 05 New
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          An-32 will be larger and younger than An-26. Although, where does the An-26?
          1. AU Ivanov. 22 January 2020 11: 26 New
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            How? An-32 - modification of the An-26 with engines from the An-12.
    4. Thrifty 19 January 2020 12: 34 New
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      Let them buy from the Chinese! They sold them so much technology, so let them replace it with Chinese components!
  2. aszzz888 19 January 2020 10: 21 New
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    On Antonov they claim that they did everything they could to abandon the Russian parts, but this requires more than two hundred million dollars, which the state never allocated.

    Well, so the flag (ensign) in your hands, go to the bottom bravely and decisively)). laughing
  3. Den717 19 January 2020 10: 27 New
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    At the same time, Vladimir Semenov, director of corporate rights and investment projects at Motor Sich, called for the lifting of sanctions against a number of Russian enterprises to complete the construction of aircraft in Ukraine.

    Are you sure that working with Antonov on your terms is in the interests of Russia? Will the enterprises withdrawn from the sanctions want to work with you? The question is not idle ...
    1. orionvitt 19 January 2020 14: 40 New
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      Quote: Den717
      Will the enterprises withdrawn from the sanctions want to work with you?

      Moreover, the orders are piece. More headache.
  4. Ros 56 19 January 2020 10: 32 New
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    Maybe maybe hell not even talk to these rams.
  5. svp67 19 January 2020 10: 33 New
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    Ukrainian aircraft construction can not do without Russian components
    Like us without the Ukrainian ones ... As it turned out, 90% of the helicopter repair market and part of the aircraft engine repair market still occupy Motor Sich ... That's it.
    1. Eug
      Eug 19 January 2020 10: 47 New
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      There (on helicopters) both special alloys and rubber (not to mention high-tech components) are mainly of Russian production .. There are also a lot of Ross on HP-3. configuration and materials. I don’t remember exactly in Kharkov already - either 4, or 7 fuselages (I don’t remember exactly) of the An-74 family and three An-140s of different degrees of readiness stood back in 2012, Russia is needed for their final assembly. components, re-certifying such an amount does not make sense.
      1. svp67 19 January 2020 10: 51 New
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        Quote: Eug
        There are special alloys, and rubber (not to mention high-tech components), mostly of Russian production .. There are also a lot of Ross on HP-3. configuration and materials.

        So it is true, but they recently conducted an investigation into who is repairing here, and these figures turned out to be. Through "foreign gaskets" Motor Sich works in Russia
        In general, as the owner and head of Motor Sich Vyacheslav Boguslaev says, “Russian orders are 40% of our volumes. Out of 1000 engines, 400 engines are delivered to Russia annually: 200 directly, and 200 through Klimov’s company. ”
        Engines CJSC Vladimir Klimov-Motor Sich (a Ukrainian company owns 20% of it) is used to circumvent Ukrainian sanctions and is engaged in the supply of Ukrainian engines to Russia to fulfill already concluded contracts, despite the current restrictions.
        In addition, the “daughter” of Russian-Ukrainian parents is actively involved in the modernization and repair of Ukrainian engines used in Russia. In particular, last spring, CJSC Dvigateli Vladimir Klimov-Motor Sich received a contract for the repair of aircraft engines from the Aviation Administration of the FSB of Russia worth 11 rubles. CJSC performs similar orders at almost all Russian aircraft repair plants.
        Not only “subsidiary” efforts of CJSC, but also other schemes allow not to notice the smuggling activity of Motor Sich in Ukraine. For example, Motor Sich has created several technical centers in Russia, such as Borisfen-Avia LLC or Aviaremont-MS LLC, which repair up to half of the total volume of engines of Ukrainian origin operating in Russia.
        But the main supply of new engines in the amount of about 400-600 units per year Vyacheslav Boguslaev carries out through Belarus, where Motor Sich has one more daughter on the basis of the Orsha Aircraft Repair Plant. As the site “Russian Wikileaks” notes, it is through Belarus that Motor Sich partners with the MVZ im. M.L. Mile, which is part of the Russian Helicopters holding, and with manufacturers - Kazan Helicopter Plant, Rostvertol, located in Rostov-on-Don. It is noted that the use of a Belarusian enterprise not only allows you to circumvent sanctions, but also to avoid customs duties: through Belarus, Motor Sich sells engines to Russia bypassing the existing 20% ​​import duty.
        According to Russkiy Wikilix, friendship with the adviser to the President of the Russian Federation on regional and economic integration, a native of Zaporozhye Sergei Glazyev, saves Motor Sich from completely displacing Motor Sich from the Russian market as part of import substitution Vyacheslav Boguslaev. In addition, Boguslaev turned out to be a patron of the Valaam Monastery. His company paid for the manufacture and installation of a sculpture of the Mother of God and a monument to Andrew the First-Called. Thanks to this, Boguslaev came to the memorial service conducted by the Patriarch of All Russia Kirill, in memory of the miracle workers Sergius and German, which was attended by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
        The publication believes that this fact testifies to the favor of the Russian leadership in relation to Boguslaev, and explains why it is not too actively crowding out the Zaporizhzhya manufacturer from the Russian market, turning a blind eye to its "gray schemes" of deliveries to Russia.

        In early September 2019, the Security Service of Ukraine launched an investigation into one of the largest engine manufacturers - Motor Sich. Occasion. unfortunately, it is very common to have ties with Russia, which, according to the SBU, is almost a betrayal.
        Of course, all the details are highly classified, but from open sources it was possible to collect information on how Motor Sich helped Russia.
        The president of the company is an experienced engineer Vyacheslav Boguslaev, who in 2000 was awarded the title of Hero. He is also one of the richest people in Ukraine and a former deputy of the Rada. Boguslav never hid his pro-Russian position. For a long time, Russian companies were the main counterparty of Motor Sich.
        According to the Ukrainian investigators, the machine-building plant in Snezhnoye, which is a branch of Motor Sich, has been supplying its products to Russia for more than two years. The plant itself is located on the territory of the DPR and, accordingly, paid taxes to the people's republic. In 2015, this amount amounted to more than 30 million rubles.
        Another “crime” is the supply of the AI-9 auxiliary engine (it is designed to start the main engines of the Kamov and Mil helicopters. This operation also did not go through official accounting, through a front company. AI-9 engines cost Russia $ 3,5 million, and it's worth believing that it was worth it.

        Motor Sich continued to cooperate with Universal Avia Airlines, which is based in Simferopol.

        One of the most popular helicopter engines - TV3-117 - needs components that were produced in Ukraine. Actually, to replace it, the VK-2500 engine was created, as well as engines based on it. Now VK-2500 is actively used on new helicopters, it is certified in India, China (main buyers). So Russia has fulfilled this part of import substitution.
        However, the TVZ-117 engines are still supplied, but bypassing through Bosnia. In 2018, more than 600 engines were delivered, and something tells me that there is no such large production in the Balkans.

        The machine plant in Snezhnoye produces blades for turbine engines, which is a rather complicated technical product. Not every country knows how to produce them, because the blades must be strong enough to withstand the load.

        Cooperation with Russia from Ukraine ceased in 2014 (officially), but the plant continued to work, fulfilling the contract.

        Boguslaev has long claimed that Mashzavod is still subordinate to Motor Sich, but another company is in charge to circumvent Ukrainian prohibition laws. According to some sources, this "other company" is registered in Russia and managed by the Russians.

        Are these all the schemes that Motor Sich uses? Most probably not. Yes, we can say that the company violates the ban and supplies engines that can be put on military helicopters. All sanctions are kind to dual-use products. But the ban itself is based on the idea that Russia is the aggressor and to blame.
        Without deliveries to Russia, one of the largest enterprises in Ukraine will simply cease to exist.
        1. Eug
          Eug 19 January 2020 11: 36 New
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          I don’t argue, I’m just talking about the possibilities of influence through the supply of materials and components and that in order to completely replace Russia, it is necessary to build not all production, but several stages from 0. Also not cheap and not fast, but still it will be easier.
          1. orionvitt 19 January 2020 14: 47 New
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            Quote: Eug
            Also not cheap and not fast, but still it will be easier.

            In the meantime, it’s cheaper on Motor Sich, even through foreign gaskets. Moreover, production has been debugged there for decades. That's true, experts run away, competencies are lost, but something else is breathing. It would be all right, the bald guy Boguslaev would sell his factory to the Chinese. "Motor Sich", this is like that chicken that used to lay golden eggs, but svidomye ukrorevolyucionery, they killed her.
            1. abc_alex 1 February 2020 11: 11 New
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              Quote: orionvitt
              It would be all right, the bald guy Boguslaev would sell his factory to the Chinese.

              Debatable. Boguslaev, EMNIP, even after the first Maidan, said clearly: if they forbid him to work with Russia, he would sell the plant to the Chinese. A man said - a man did.
    2. Kuroneko 19 January 2020 12: 56 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Like us without the Ukrainian ones ... As it turned out, 90% of the helicopter repair market and part of the aircraft engine repair market still occupy Motor Sich ... That's it.

      On the other hand, the phrase "Ukrainian aircraft construction" (more precisely, now "Ukrainian Literary") from the time of the Revolution Gidnostі turned into an oxymoron.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Оксюморон
      And we will overcome the current dependence, albeit later, with blood and time. And they?
  6. HAM
    HAM 19 January 2020 10: 34 New
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    But do Russian enterprises need them now?
    Such "partners" at any time can again throw .... because of them it’s not worth it, in my opinion, to restore the already lost production ... you need to establish only your own.
    Well, there is no longer faith in such "partners"!
    1. svp67 19 January 2020 10: 52 New
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      Quote: HAM
      But do Russian enterprises need them now?

      We need, unfortunately or fortunately, but so far we need
  7. rocket757 19 January 2020 10: 35 New
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    And who got better?
    Russia can overcome any troubles, not the first time, but neighbors ??? Their choice, there’s nothing more to talk about yet.
  8. Paul Siebert 19 January 2020 10: 41 New
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    No sanctions against our enterprises on Nezalezhnaya will not be canceled.
    The political situation there is much more important than common sense.
    Ukraine is steadily moving towards the ideal of Westernist rogul - it becomes an "agrarian superpower."
    True, while importing both lard and potatoes and beets. Set for the Ukrainian dish itself - borsch ...
    1. Tersky 19 January 2020 10: 47 New
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      Quote: Paul Siebert
      The political situation there is much more important than common sense.

      So she is on the verge of drying out. Since about 2017, from time to time, European politicians have been throwing through the media ideas that sanctions should be lifted from Russia. The point is not that the old Europe allegedly "regained her sight", but that the economic profit from Ukrainian concessions no longer exceeds the losses from Russian counter-sanctions. Therefore, at first Italy, then Austria, and then Germany and France, wished the speedy removal of mutual restrictions.
  9. Kerensky 19 January 2020 10: 41 New
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    It’s just that smart people have broken up their connections for decades. Yes, than tore! Independence and independence are not even patriotic feelings, these are just words. And still there is neither one nor the other. And now also the planes. Soon there will be no school and facilities.
    And, I must admit, this "mess" cost the "cooks" mere pennies ...
  10. Monar 19 January 2020 10: 44 New
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    The threat of a complete halt looms over Ukraine
    And is there anything left besides repair?
  11. prior 19 January 2020 10: 45 New
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    “Antonov” will be helped only by a prayer service for the PCU or STSU, but always with the presence of the Patriarch of Constantinople. Prayer for peace ....
  12. 75 Sergey 19 January 2020 10: 49 New
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    No, no, not ... dead, so dead!
    К
  13. Alexander X 19 January 2020 11: 15 New
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    What can I say, the American and the Geyvropets for a penny managed to cut off a huge chunk from the Slavic world and poison it with fascist ideas. They set the Slavs against the Slavs ... They forced each other to exhaust each other to their joy. Destroyed the cooperation created during the USSR. But the industry of Ukraine does not need anyone from the "Western world".
  14. major147 19 January 2020 11: 18 New
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    Motor Sich Director for Corporate Rights and Investment Projects Vladimir Semenov called for the lifting of sanctions against a number of Russian enterprises to complete the construction of aircraft in Ukraine.

    And after the completion of the construction of aircraft, you can enter them again!
  15. askort154 19 January 2020 11: 37 New
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    On Antonov they claim that they did everything they could to abandon the Russian parts, but it takes over two hundred million dollars, which the state never allocated.

    Only 200 lemons to get such an enterprise out of the swamp?
    This is the cost of producing 2-3 aircraft, but not the restoration of mass production, even the finished product. Goals are visible here with the naked eye.
    "asking" - to squeeze 200 lemons from the state in the pocket of a certain circle from the so-called "aviation industry of Ukraine". Unless, on the flowers to the coffin of the "aviation industry" of Ukraine.
    What they didn’t save, but when they lost, weep. fool
  16. Victor March 47 19 January 2020 11: 48 New
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    Quote: LiSiCyn
    Quote: maxim947
    Or let the advances return, but this is from the realm of fiction.

    I agree. The enterprises have no money. And the state, FIG. It is possible, of course, by barter, but this is subject to availability in warehouses, which I doubt.

    But who will allow barter? Actually, what is barter? This is give-give trade. When grandmothers do not work at all, and there is exchange trade like the Stone Age. And, most importantly, the country's budget does not have anything from such transactions. And what to support the army, police, officials? Barter is a plague. Did you get gears from the machine for salary? Or a bucket of bitumen? Although I was getting sausage, which was not possible to sell, hundreds of our workers from the poultry farm stood at the train stations, who received such a salary and tried to foist off on the passengers of trains .... You can’t imagine how tired she was then. Without bread, and other things .... But at least they did not die of hunger.
    1. abc_alex 1 February 2020 11: 20 New
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      Quote: Victor March 47
      When grandmothers do not work at all, and there is exchange trade like the Stone Age.

      :)
      Not certainly in that way. All the same, barter trading takes place through the monetary equivalent. Setoff occurs through the monetary value of the goods. You are a wagon of nuts worth a million, you a truck of brandy worth a million.
      Exchange trading, it is different.
      For enterprises, this may look like an interest-free installment payment plan and even be issued through a “court” bank. Ours "provide a loan", Ukrainians "buy" components for it, assemble a motor, "sell" it to ours, ours put it on a plane. And money is received only from the one who buys the plane. And then, a separate article pays Ukrainians services. They pay taxes.
  17. Bshkaus 19 January 2020 11: 59 New
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    "again 25", already really tired of the constant suction of Ukraine.
    And Russian aircraft construction cannot do without western components.
    What's next?
    1. Dikson 19 January 2020 13: 43 New
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      Not only western components .. "import substitution" added the need for more eastern ones ...))
  18. knn54 19 January 2020 12: 05 New
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    Now there is a reason to close (officially, to make production outside the city). There is already a project of the "entertainment center". Moreover, the Lithuanian and Afghan (the leaders of the UKRAINIAN defense industry, gunboats) have long been talking about this.
  19. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 19 January 2020 12: 14 New
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    Do we want to? GDP - maybe yes. IMHO - no.
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  21. Retvizan 8 19 January 2020 12: 52 New
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    ... And it turned out that the Ukrainian economy cannot do without cheap Russian energy, without a Russian market, without investment from Russia ...
  22. Dikson 19 January 2020 13: 41 New
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    I look here so many fiercely condescending comments .. It so happened historically that the production was tied to each other for many decades .. Yes, asks Motor Sich to lift the sanctions .. What is wrong with this for Russia? Proud commentators here, we don’t need Ukrainian turbines for the fleet and aviation, right? Isn’t it here that our frozen projects hang for 10 years due to the lack of power machines for the Navy, probably? And our country would not benefit from such cooperation, right? But if Gazprom had been kicked in the ass on time, it could have been sold under the condition of gas supply to Ukraine — to unblock the sanctions and resume work with the same Antonov and Motor Sich .. At one time .. But we are proud .. And the people not brotherly at once .. And everything Ukrainian is bad .. And as for me - for the sake of defense and defense of your country, pride can also be held in your pocket .. like a fig folded .. for the time being .. And then because of the pride of Great Russia probably Gazprom pays fines and supplies gas to the "enemy country" ..
    1. Golovan Jack 19 January 2020 13: 44 New
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      Quote: Dikson
      Yes, asks Motor Sich to lift the sanctions .. What is wrong with this for Russia? Proud commentators here, we don’t need Ukrainian turbines for the fleet and aviation, right?

      Man, are you seriously ready to put the product of "fraternal" Ukraine on a warship or even an airplane? belay

      Other your "la-la", by the way - about the same level. And why am I not surprised? what
      1. Dikson 19 January 2020 14: 00 New
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        Jack, but nobody canceled the military acceptance ..? But now, few Ukrainian engines are on board ?! You understand - politics is one thing, but it is unlikely that the management of the same Motor Sich needs SUCH image losses as a deliberate marriage of its products .. After all, helicopters not only fly in Russia .. I understand the fears .. But why no one fears stuffed an incomprehensible, clearly inappropriate product electronics of Chinese products, for example? Imported machine tools and other equipment, with sewn in bookmarks ... Their manufacturers can also make and sell this ... And finally - and you could write another article here .. And call it almost the same - "The American aircraft industry can not do without Russian components ".. Interestingly, the intonation in the comments would be similar? Or they would write together that "these are orders and salaries for our workers!" And what changes the intonation? That Boeing in one case and Motor Sich in another? I’m saying that cooperation, barter there or business .. is good for both parties.
        1. Golovan Jack 19 January 2020 14: 17 New
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          Quote: Dikson
          because no one canceled the military acceptance ..?

          I somehow hardly imagine Russian military representatives on the same Motor Sich, in modern conditions. Apparently, my imagination is not enough.

          Quote: Dikson
          now few Ukrainian engines are on board?

          That's interesting - how many of them were delivered to the Russian Federation after 2014?

          Quote: Dikson
          hardly the leadership of the same Motor Sich needs SUCH image losses

          They will order it, and I’ll try to make it “image losses” ... but all this is from the field of unscientific fiction, they will not order engines in the country "at war with the Russian Federation", IMHO.

          Everything else is past, the idea to order an engine in Ukraine, here and now, amused me yes
          1. Dikson 19 January 2020 14: 24 New
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            Well ok,) order not the entire engine, but those parts and accessories that still cannot be brought to performance on the same Saturn .. No? As for the “warring with the Russian Federation” - yes .. However, according to some signs, Ukraine still defeated Russia .. But are we paying them reparations in the form of fines and discounts, and aren't they paying us? Such a "war" turns out ..
            1. Golovan Jack 19 January 2020 14: 27 New
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              Quote: Dikson
              order not the entire engine, but those parts and accessories that still cannot bring to performance on the same Saturn ..

              Are you sure that it is there in the "components"?

              And anyway - let people who have real information decide this, no? wink

              Quote: Dikson
              according to some indications, Ukraine still defeated Russia .. But are we paying them reparations in the form of fines and discounts, and aren't they for us?

              1. Ugh.
              2. Chickens in the fall count.

              Good luck hi
              1. Dikson 19 January 2020 14: 35 New
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                Definitely .. - we will not decide with you .. And good luck to you, Golovan Jack.
  23. Vasyan1971 19 January 2020 14: 53 New
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    The threat of a complete halt to the production of aircraft and the disruption of contracts was looming over Ukraine. This was caused by the refusal of the Antonov aircraft plant to cooperate with Russian enterprises,

    And in our case in Ivanovo 308, the Aircraft Repair Plant is bent without spare parts for AN-am ... (If you believe friends).
  24. Kaw
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    Oh, how much we lost along with the East Ukrainian airlines. There was the An-140 ready and brought to serial production (instead of it, we started to do it from scratch, through the stump of the deck, IL-112), there is a completely domestic ready-made and certified replacement for Superjets - An-148 (you could write off the superjet) . There remained the production of Ruslanov and Mriy and copyright on them, there remained the production of a wide variety of aircraft engines and missiles.
    Everything remained there, behind the front line. In the same place, by the way, there is also a land passage to the Crimea (it would not have been necessary to pump so much money into the bridge).
  25. Protos 19 January 2020 15: 22 New
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    And the number of such imported components in the same ANs is under 50%. What they built "on their own", most likely due to the remains from the warehouse.

    70% according to the statements of KB Antonov
  26. Vladimir Mashkov 19 January 2020 15: 30 New
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    Absolute idiocy: bad for ordinary Ukrainians, bad for Russians. And who is good? The Americans, who through their "sixes" destroy Ukraine and do dirty tricks to Russia and the Russians ...
  27. Sergey Averchenkov 19 January 2020 15: 31 New
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    Here I am Russian ... I was in the Donbass in the 14th, now my son is there ... How can I give Ukraine something?
  28. TermNachTer 19 January 2020 17: 08 New
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    The author apparently does not know that the aircraft industry in Banderland is not threatened with stopping, but has already stopped. Since 2016, not a single new aircraft has been produced.
  29. lvov_aleksey 19 January 2020 20: 16 New
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    they really petrify that in the Dnieper-Volga can Ruslans also hobble-produce and lift into the air.
    Do not forget about Aviastar in Ulyanovsk
  30. cat Rusich 19 January 2020 22: 30 New
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    Why should Russia sell components for letaks (planes) in Ukraine? - Ukraine is "fighting" with Russia ... I remember a report from the plant named after him. Antonov during the Maidan. The hard workers said that they work for the Maidan to them (the workers) - "to cope with great need." In the Donbass, miners also worked and did not go into “politics”. Now let petition write in the "Russian Lotto" ...
  31. Alexey from Perm 20 January 2020 00: 45 New
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    Better stop right away, they forgot that you have a war with us, shoot yourself in both legs, the West likes it
  32. LeonidL 20 January 2020 05: 53 New
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    "For all time, Ukraine managed to assemble only two aircraft without Russian components: An-178 and a demonstration copy of the An-132D. The An-178 won the tender in Peru and the Antonov leadership insists that they are ready to wait until another aircraft is assembled in Ukraine without Russian components, but the aircraft will be delivered in 2021 and there are no replacement parts."- This is exactly what the Maydaun villages of Azarov warned. And so in everything - a complete stupor and collapse of industry, economy, science. Education and the agricultural sector are next. Yes, it’s kind of completely done away with medicine ... Nah! Parsley in the past a year, one (1) medical assistant opened, built with money and EU forces ... the truth is there is remote medicine ... mustache on the phone (if there is a connection) such as breathe-do not breathe, cardiogram, x-ray, NMR, EMERAI and other computer diagnostics True, the computer was not delivered, and the plasma TV was already stolen. Enemas and mustard plasters were left.
  33. NF68 21 January 2020 15: 28 New
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    Cool. The very phrase "Ukrainian Aircraft" is already causing laughter.
  34. Victor March 47 1 February 2020 12: 56 New
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    Quote: Victor March 47
    When grandmothers do not work at all, and there is exchange trade like the Stone Age.

    :)
    Not certainly in that way. All the same, barter trading takes place through the monetary equivalent. Setoff occurs through the monetary value of the goods. You are a wagon of nuts worth a million, you a truck of brandy worth a million.
    Exchange trading, it is different.
    For enterprises, this may look like an interest-free installment payment plan and even be issued through a “court” bank. Ours "provide a loan", Ukrainians "buy" components for it, assemble a motor, "sell" it to ours, ours put it on a plane. And money is received only from the one who buys the plane. And then, a separate article pays Ukrainians services. They pay taxes.

    Sure. DO NOT parrots be considered Goods? But without money, without paying taxes, salaries, and other things inherent in state relations.