Gazprom wants to withdraw its gas pipelines from the EU gas directive

The Russian company Gazprom wants to remove the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines from the scope of the new European gas directive. The corresponding applications were submitted to the German Federal Network Agency (BNetzA) by Gazprom subsidiaries - Nord Stream AG and Nord Stream 2 AG, Vedomosti writes.

Gazprom subsidiaries want to bring the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines they manage out of the scope of the updated Gas Directive. Nord Stream AG handed over the necessary package of documents on December 23, Nord Stream 2 AG on January 10, follows from BNetzA materials. The Nord Stream application will be reviewed by May 23, with consultations with EU member states. According to the Nord Stream-2 application, the terms of consideration are not yet called.

The gas directive was adopted by the European Parliament on April 4, 2019. Although it did not mention Russian gas pipelines in direct text, it did not hide the fact that the main objective of this directive is to limit Gazprom to the possibility of using Nord Stream-2. According to it, new and existing offshore gas pipelines from countries outside the EU (including Nord Stream 2) must comply with the rules that now apply to domestic pipelines, that is, it is impossible for the same gas to be transported a company that produces and sells it.

Germany, for which Nord Stream-2 is being built, has adopted a directive with restrictions stating that the directive will not apply to the first Nord Stream, but will affect Nord Stream-2. The bill also indicates the conditions for exclusion from the new regulation, which can be used by Gazprom. However, European experts are confident that Gazprom will not be able to withdraw from the Nord Stream-2 directive, as Article 49a of the directive clearly states that “EU member states, when connecting to gas pipelines from third countries, may make exceptions for gas pipeline operators if they were commissioned before May 23, 2019,” and “SP-2” is not only not introduced into operation, but not yet completed.

Recall that the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline was suspended at 93% readiness due to US sanctions. In December last year, it was stated that the gas pipeline would be completed and put into operation during 2020.

Comments

[Vasyan1971]

... the main task of this directive is to restrict Gazprom's ability to use Nord Stream 2.

Therefore, the prospects are foggy ...

[maxim947]

Here it’s clear to the hedgehog that this will not be easy. But you have to try.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: maxim947

But you have to try.

It's hard to argue with that. Just to do everything right ...

[Machito]

Germany needs Russian gas to compete with China and the USA.

[Thrall]

construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline suspended at 93% readiness due to US sanctions

Counter-sanctions to the United States on rocket engines and passenger seats on the ISS

[Omskgasmyas]

And titanium products for Boeing. Oh yes, this will prevent Russian business from making a profit. So the iPhone thought. We’ll see what the new prime minister says about the sanctions.

[Starover_Z]

it is impossible for the same company to produce gas to be transporting and selling it.

Gosha !!! First, we will buy gas from you, we need it. Then - well, where is your gas, pull the gas pipelines, we can help you. And in the end - your task is to pump it into the pipe, then it’s not your business, rejoice that we agreed to take your gas, so it turns out ?!
In the end, again the question rests on the legal part of the contract and again Russia is losing hundreds of millions of profits ... Who is to blame and what to do ?! How much will this last?

[Omskgasmyas]

This is called the "buyer's dictate" on the gas market. The EU has been striving for this for 20 years. T have achieved their goal.

[Maz]

"Gazprom" wants to withdraw its gas pipelines from the scope of the EU gas directive ..... DO I NEED TO FIRST OR WHAT?

[rocket757]

And what, the experts gave out a whole list of measures / moves that will allow using the BUILDED gas pipeline in full. There will be no such obstacles, milestones, laws that can be passed, circumvented, overcome, in one way or another!
There will be some costs, losses, delays, but, as they say, the game is worth the candle!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: rocket757

And what, the experts gave out a whole list of measures / moves that will allow using the BUILDED gas pipeline in full.

An intelligent person will always find a way out of this situation, and a wise person will never get into this situation.

©

Quote: rocket757

but, as they say, the game is worth the candle!

Yes. The main thing is to have a "knight's move on the head" © and not be afraid to use it.

[knn54]

In mid-December, the Bundestag passed the bill. into national legislation extenuating amendments to the Directive. If Poland or someone else does not appeal, then there are no questions

[rocket757]

Correction -

Quote: rocket757

There will be no such obstacles, boundaries, laws that NOT ALLOWED pass by

[Lelek]

Quote: rocket757

There are no such obstacles, boundaries, laws that can be bypassed, circumvented, overcome, in one way or another!

Victor.
Well, firstly, the initiative to remove restrictions on pumping came not from Russia, but from Germany with a guarantee from Russia that the SP-2 would be completed. And these are the sorrows of the USA and their mongrel - Warsaw and Kiev in the first place (the Balts are not even considered in this process).

[rocket757]

a lion
We have to wait until the construction is completed, and then see how all interested parties will circumvent all the restrictive bans that have been imposed in the EU. about the transit of gas to the geyropu. Still to come.

[Lelek]

Quote: rocket757

We have to wait until the construction is completed, and then see ...

I agree. And especially to reconsider your attitude to the so-called. "partners" in production, who at the most crucial moment can betray and shriek.

[rocket757]

Partners, fellow travelers ... to keep their ITERES in the first place, and the rest, the accompanying, we will look and evaluate as it should.

[Maalkavianin]

As soon as the cock pecked - immediately combed. And before all these multi-way moves could not have been invented for any different? Nonsense. After all this saga with SP-2, there is a firm conviction that in Gazprom they are not ruled by harsh, cunning, and scorched by everyone and everything managers, but some Vaska from the village who saw gas only at home when they cooked borsch.

[Kronos]

Why only in Gazprom then? In any industry in Russia, so

[Maalkavianin]

So Yes. It's just that Gazprom is a very significant indicator. And the article is about him. And if in such a company they live according to the saying "Until the thunder breaks out, the man does not cross himself", then what to say about others.

[Sergey1987]

Quote: Kronos

Why only in Gazprom then? In any industry in Russia, so

Well, of course. All around are not effective managers in all sectors. Here is just an indicator of the activity of any corporation - this is net profit, and for some reason, net profit everywhere is not just there, but high.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Malkavianin

After all this epic with the SP-2, strong confidence is created ...

Here it is more likely that there is a place to play on both sides, because the kids, money, houses and other yachts are not here, but THERE ...

[Maalkavianin]

Maybe so. Although, as for me, this is unlikely. Most likely a simple gouging.

[Vasyan1971]

Maybe so. Although, as for me, one does not interfere with the other ...

[rotmistr60]

In the Soviet period, they found a way out of a difficult situation (the Druzhba oil pipeline, and gas pipelines in the 80s), I think that even today something can work out. And the new gas directive was naturally adopted in opposition to the "SP-2" under construction, so the struggle will be difficult and with a difficult to predict result.

[rocket757]

Quote: rotmistr60

And the new gas directive was naturally adopted in opposition to the "SP-2" under construction, so the struggle will be difficult and with a difficult to predict result.

Everything that has already been heaped up by the gayrope singing of minke whales can be overcome! But the whales will not calm down and will wind up, all sorts of different things, more and more!
Let's see how it goes.

[Avior]

I think it's not so simple.
The directive, as I understand it, extends to land extensions of the Nord Stream,

[NKT]

The fact is that the third energy package applies to transit pipelines only within the EU, i.e. and offshore pipelines, but only within 12 miles.
This directive, extending its effect to all pipelines outside the EU, which have connections to EU pipelines, it closes many loopholes for us.

[Muvka]

during 2020.

Horror. The education of journalists at the bottom. Sad

[g1washntwn]

Let you be comforted by the fact that about 10% of the world's population is confident that our planet is 2020 years old ... and some are generally sure that it is flat.

[Operator]

EU directives are just recommendations for EU member states for which national legislation remains a priority. For example, Hungary, other East European countries, Scandinavia and Finland spat in the face of the EU and refused to comply with its directives on quotas for the placement of refugees from Africa and the Middle East.

So in terms of SP-2, it all depends on Germany itself.

[Snail N9]

"Want is not harmful". But nothing will come of "Gazprom" - Poland and the Baltic "tigers" vigilantly stand guard so that "Gazprom", in any way, could not bypass all these "energy packages". They just declare: "We will not allow!" And something tells me that it will be so. The last visit of Merkel showed that it is not worth counting on Germany's help in this matter now, as Merkel said - Germany will fulfill its obligations under the contract, and there will be no such "lobbying" of Gazprom's interests in the EU now. So Gazprom was left "one on one" with Poland and the Baltic mongrels, who simply revel in "victory over the Russians."

[stalki]

with Poland and the Baltic mongrels, who simply revel in "victory over the Russians."

Yeah, "noticeably", although you yourself understand all roads lead to Rome. It's unavoidable. It’s always like that, poking around, puffing, and then sighing quietly and agreeing.

[Ros 56]

Are you really waking up from a long hibernation. There was no hell at the request of the West to increase the volume of pumping without any conditions. Well, the puzzles that these Gazprom stupid menagers can be taken, in addition to analysis, and then under anesthesia

[Victor March 47]

And who is stopping Gazprom from selling the pipe to the Russian gas transportation campaign? Or should the surname of the head of the pipe and the head of gas necessarily coincide?

[g1washntwn]

To find a company that can buy SP-2 (SP-1 is not yet in packages, but it’s a good start), you need to shuffle the privatization deck again. Renting and leasing will not work, we need exactly different owners.

[Brturin]

Quote: Victor March 47

And who is stopping Gazprom from selling the Russian campaign pipe

Yes there is already a similar option

Gazprom has set up a company that could be given control over a 12-mile section of Nord Stream 2, which will remove the project from the updated EU Gas Directive. This statement was made by the German newspaper Handelsblatt, citing its own sources in the industry. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/7088970

Bundestag, 12 mile stretch, plus court with EU

"In July 2019, Nord Stream AG filed a lawsuit with the EU Court of Justice to partially repeal the amendments to the Gas Directive, as they set unreasonably short time frames for EU member states to grant exceptions to the Gas Directive, which significantly reduces the likelihood of obtaining such exceptions", - " Gazprom "

we will see ....

[75 Sergey]

Or can Gazprom recruit new lawyers to read the contracts?
This campaign is just feeding, so that ... ichthyander would not be sitting idle.

[g1washntwn]

It is enough to simply add the clause in long-term contracts:

xvii. In case of any changes in the pan-European or national legislation in force at the time of the conclusion of this Agreement and directly affecting the implementation of the clauses of this Agreement, the parties will stop fulfilling the clauses of this Agreement until amendments to the clauses of the Agreement that are affected by these changes.

Otherwise, the West will infinitely customize its energy packages under the political situation. And so, for each of their sneezes in our direction, we just stop serving for a month or two for a good reason, since this force majeure is registered.

[Snail N9]

From my own experience, I know that Russian companies did not pay (until recently, now it is better, but not radically) due attention to the legal support of contracts - often they did not even attach any importance at all to a thorough study of all points of the contract - they looked at the costs and final profit specified in the contracts and that's it. If there were "inconvenient clauses" in the contract, then the Russian side usually did not react to them in any way, like, and so it will do, we'll figure it out along the way. For example, in the last two companies where I worked, all contracts were written not by the Russian side, but by the "western" side and was motivated by the fact that they say "they know better what and how." It may be different in large companies with their own staff of lawyers, but judging by the success of Russian business in the international arena, one can doubt this. The only place where it happened to be faced with a "strong" legal sector was Lukoil.

[g1washntwn]

I completely admit. The modern version of management implies that the top manager does not need to understand everything, and when he decides he cannot critically evaluate the information received as an expert. So is the assessment of subordinates. How can he evaluate the sector if there is no belmez in this business? Only by failures and achievements is it somehow unprofitable to evaluate.

[Cat Kuzya]

And this comes from the fundamental difference between Russian and Western business. Russian business is built on a family-clan basis, which implies the placement of relatives and friends-acquaintances in all managerial positions, who perceive high positions as an opportunity to receive high income combined with a "sinecure" - that is, "doing nothing." In the west, it is the professional staff who have passed well-known educational institutions or who have worked in different places and who have a positive recommendation that are hired to the management-managerial links, and they try to take people from the street who are ambitious and want to advance the career ladder and are not bound by kinship-clan restrictions ... Children to whom they are going to transfer a business must necessarily undergo appropriate training in specialized educational institutions, prove their efficiency and literacy by working in other companies (namely in others), and then a decision is made whether they will be able to pull a "family business" or it is better to hire a "Varangian for this. "and leave the children to live only on the rent. In Russia, if you are the son-daughter of the owner of a company or an imperious official, then you have already been born a "master" - an "effective manager".

[mongolian9999]

So Lukoil is not a Russian company. What is the board of directors, what is the territory of taxation.

[Vladimir61]

That's right, you need to lobby your interests using all the tools of possible pressure! A rolling stone gathers no moss.

[archiroll]

I twist and twist, I want to put on the beads for talents ...

[mark1]

At one time, when planning the bypass Nezalezhnaya had a dilemma - to build the Nord Stream gas pipeline or a gas liquefaction plant, they chose a gas pipeline. They built it with a lot of noise and got a lot of problems. it seems that one can draw conclusions and not step on the same rake ... build a plant, gentlemen! But Gazprom is not afraid of difficulties and decided to start the second stage, and got what it should have received.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: mark1

They built it with a lot of noise and got a lot of problems. it seems that one can draw conclusions and not step on the same rake ... build a plant, gentlemen! But Gazprom is not afraid of difficulties and decided to start the second stage, and got what it should have received.

But the contractors drank well at the construction of the gas pipeline ... there was a sensational article about the fact that the payback of such gas pipelines goes to infinity, and it is beneficial only for companies building these gas pipelines. In the end, they simply fired this foreign analyst who wrote such sedition

[Strashila]

The EU has shown that its laws are retroactive.
Design and approval of documents for the construction of SP-2 was carried out on the basis of EU laws in force at that time.
All permits were received and agreed upon, construction of the SP-2 began.
What the EU is doing is adopting a law, "it is impossible for the same company that produces and sells it to handle gas transportation."
This is their series, the cake man cannot serve the cakes to the buyer himself, as he makes them and sells them.
What to do, legislative nonsense, how to cheat on a neighbor

[axiles100682]

In general, all these directives and restrictions are purely political aimed at reducing supposedly dependence on Russia, but they do not understand that the dependence is mutual and does not pose any threats to them, and all these directives only lead to higher gas prices and the appearance of a bunch of gasket companies and an increase in the state of parasites .Gazprom produces gas itself, builds gas pipelines itself, can transport and sell gas itself. Why is it asked to produce a bunch of molds where some will produce others, build pipelines, transport others, sell the fourth ones?

[orionvitt]

Strange people, these Europeans. Why build something, then use it by 50%. And I won't eat it myself, and I won't give it to others. I'd rather walk around hungry and cold. The owner ordered. Why is it necessary to buy goods from an overseas uncle at a higher price, if from a neighbor it is much cheaper? So fairy tales about the "market" that "will settle everything" can be left for young children. Everything is decided by politics.

[g1washntwn]

Quote: Kuzya the Cat

And this comes from the fundamental difference between Russian business and Western. Russian business is built on a family-clan basis

Only the Rothschilds and others do not talk about it. OK?

[u-345]

What excites Russian peasants most of all?
It turns out
withdrawal of the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines from the new European gas directive
And everyone is so "smart". Everyone knows exactly how to do it. Everyone knows how to steer Gazprom, they know what mistakes they made and how to fix them.
And what are the "bad managers" who do not know how to do anything.
Managers may be bad, but at the same time they earn millions of dollars and spit on the opinion of the plebs.
The fact that black bread in stores has risen in price and cellular tariffs rushed up is a side note. We will discuss and "solve" the problems of global world companies.

[Kronos]

If you are paid by millions it doesn’t mean that you are smart it means that you’re just paid so much

[NordUral]

He wants to want something, but who will let him do it. Certainly not the West.
The country needs changes that will make the "national heritage" truly national.