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King forever? West about the events of January 15 in Russia

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Project "ZZ". The largest changes in government that Vladimir Putin went to became the number one topic in the world media. “Suddenly”, “no one expected” - approximately such characteristics and definitions are given to the political decisions of the head of the Russian state by foreign politicians, experts and observers. Against the background of these decisions, foreign analysts and commentators are actively discussing the topic of Putin’s alleged lifelong “reign”.


Leaving, stay


Moscow correspondent «The Guardian» Andrew Roth believes that President Putin, having embarked on "a massive reshuffle in the government, made two things clear." First, Russia will probably say goodbye to Putin as president in 2024. And then secondly: when Putin resigns as president, he really "will not resign."

Putin’s presidential term will expire in 2024, recalls the author of the material. And he will not be able to “run for re-election” again, the correspondent ironically. However, "pride and a desire for self-preservation" told Putin to "hold the levers of power in his hands."

“He is the founder of this system, and he wants to maintain control,” says Alexei Makarkin of the Center for Political Technologies on this subject.

According to E. Roth, the rapid pace that events gained on January 15, when Putin announced plans to amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation in order to “weaken the next president of Russia,” and when only an hour later his prime minister and government announced plans to step down, shows that "the foundations for the transition are laid years before Putin must leave the Kremlin."

Apparently, Putin will become the prime minister or head of the Council of State. At least that’s what observers say. It is also possible that Putin will play a different role that will exist "regardless of the power of his potential successor."

Most likely, the author further notes, the successor will be Mikhail Mishustin, a tax official whom Putin called the candidate for the post of prime minister.

As for the “group of loyal proxies, including old colleagues, assistants, heads of regions and former bodyguards,” who were formerly considered “potential heirs,” then, choosing Mishustin, Putin “left his options open”, trying to “minimize conflicts among political the elite. "

Putin has good reason to plan a power transition - probably the most difficult and significant of his career. Putin has already become a long-lived Kremlin, second only to Joseph Stalin. Opposition leaders in Russia, for example, A. Navalny, believe that V. Putin is interested in being a lifelong leader. M. Kasyanov, a former prime minister and well-known critic of Putin, said that Putin wants to maintain power "forever."

Andrew Roth sums up: the most pressing issue in Russia is "not whether Putin will remain in power after 2024, but simply how he plans to do this."

Because of the yachts and the vineyard?


Luke Harding in «The Guardian» also mentions Navalny and suggests that D. Medvedev could lose his chair due to the corruption component.


According to the author, Medvedev’s position was shaken by “allegations of corruption”, as well as “awkward moments” that were ridiculed in society. Luke Harding recalls how Medvedev "nodded during President Putin’s speeches - and not once, but several times." Harding, however, suggests that these kinds of “mistakes” could be “forgiven”.

"Fatally" weakened the position of Medvedev, probably, "accusations of personal corruption." This is what made Putin replace his prime minister with tax official Mikhail Mishustin. Harding recalls the 2017 video that thirty-three million people watched on YouTube. In this video, Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny “accused Medvedev of secretly owning palaces, yachts and an Italian vineyard,” the author writes.

The decision of Vladimir Putin to accept the resignation of Dmitry Medvedev "was not a surprise," the author comments.

However, corruption “is not unusual among senior Kremlin officials,” says Harding. Medvedev himself calls the claims against him "nonsense." Nevertheless, the allegations were “extremely destructive,” because it was precisely during that same period that “the standard of living of ordinary Russians decreased as a result of Western sanctions imposed after the annexation of Crimea by Putin in 2014,” the journalist writes. “Medvedev’s own speeches condemning the theft did not help,” the author notes. And the personnel reshuffle undertaken by Putin seems to “signal the end of Medvedev’s career” at the forefront of politics.

Medvedev now has a new job: deputy head of the Security Council. This is a “humiliating end” for Medvedev, the third president of Russia after Boris Yeltsin and Putin.


State Department at a loss


The United States is still trying to comprehend what is happening in the Kremlin. Morgan Dinn Ortagus, head of the Department of State’s press service, merely referred to media reports and said that the State Department had “just begun” to monitor these reports.

Ms. Ortagus has not yet made any definite statement to the American press, confining herself to a message in the spirit of "we are watching what is happening."

However, Ortagus recalled, notes "Deutsche Welle"that President Trump has repeatedly announced his desire to improve relations with Moscow.

She hinted at some US hopes - hopes for change. According to her, it all depends on the leaders of Russia: whether they want to "change the hostile behavior that we observed, in particular, as an example of interference in the American election." Concluding her speech, she expressed the hope that the people in Russian power would “take into account our demands for change” in foreign policy.

Ortagus told the TV channel Rtvithat "we [USA] are on the side of the citizens of Russia."

There is another political opinion from the United States.

Medvedev and his cabinet resigned after Putin issued an annual statement on the situation in the country. During his speech, Putin talked about amending the constitution and the desire to give more authority to prime ministers and cabinet members, recalls "Washington Examiner".

The 67-year-old Putin, the newspaper notes, told Medvedev that he was grateful for his service, but also noted that Medvedev and his cabinet did not fully meet expectations.

Z. Halashek, the author of the article, calls the change in power “sudden.”


Senator Ben Sass, the author further notes, responded to this newspointing to Putin’s power over the government.

«History this one is old as time itself: the Russian puppeteer is looking for new puppets, ”said this Republican, a senator from Nebraska.

Prime Minister of 2024


British journalists Chris Pleasant and Tim Stykings in "Daily Mail" went further than the American senator and expressed the following opinion: Putin "appoints himself" and intends to remain in power "forever." To this end, he announces radical "constitutional changes." The government is leaving to "clear the way." Journalists call this action “a dark seizure of power” and claim that V. Putin “has today set himself to rule for life”. It is not for nothing that Medvedev said that his resignation is necessary for Putin to “make all decisions,” and immediately transfer to “the mysterious post of deputy head of the Security Council under the president.”


"Gloomy reforms of Putin," the authors of the article believe, are expected to turn the role of the president "into a ceremonial." So analysts say. This is so that Putin "could become the new plenipotentiary prime minister." And after 2024, this step will allow Putin to "rule for life."

At the same time, Putin said that any constitutional amendments should be put to the popular vote. Russia "will hold the referendum for the first time since 1993," the authors write.

As for Mikhail Mishustin, who is likely to become the next prime minister of Russia, the publication calls him a constant hockey fan and indicates that this person has been the head of the Russian tax department for ten years (since 2010). His candidacy for this post was proposed by the then Minister of Finance Alexei Kudrin, the co-authors of the material indicate.


In 2015, Mishustin was named the 54th highest paid civil servant according to Forbes magazine with an income of 183,31 million rubles (2,6 million pounds).

He is a member of the supervisory board of the CSKA hockey club along with the head of Rosneft Igor Sechin and other influential individuals.

In 2010, the business newspaper RBC reported that Mishustin has "good contacts in law enforcement agencies." He was "often seen at hockey matches with senior officials from the FSB and the Ministry of the Interior."

It is believed that this man was chosen by Putin in order to create a “more competent leadership.” He is also regarded as a "neutral figure."

The Russian political world, the authors conclude, is full of speculation on how Putin can remain in power, although he himself "said almost nothing on this issue."


* * *


Without a doubt, for Russian politicians, commentators and experts, Russian political decisions of January 15 came as a complete surprise. Even the vaunted American State Department, along with American intelligence, all blinked. As British journalists joke, Putin "pulled his rabbits out of his hat."

Western analysts observing political changes in Russia agree on one thing: Putin wants to remain in power "forever" and "reign" undividedly.

Who will become president in the year 2024 cannot be predicted in the West.
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  1. Boris55
    Boris55 16 January 2020 08: 08
    -19
    The United States is still trying to comprehend what is happening in the Kremlin.

    Everything is simple. Clintonoids are being cleansed and nationalization of not very stupid elites is taking place. Russia is getting out of control of the West.

    Putin wants to remain in power "forever" and "reign" undividedly.

    The West can still pray for Putin because the one who comes after the 24th will definitely not suit them.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 16 January 2020 08: 16
      +26
      I still think that the team is one. And there is a game of good / bad cops. But you need to understand that the fools are not there, and they understand that they have gone too far. The change of part of the characters is nothing more than a thoughtful, but populist move to relieve tension in society. hi
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 16 January 2020 08: 17
        +2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I still think that the team is one. And there is a game of good / bad cops

        "State policy and governance in a crowd- "elite" society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings to use the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals ".

        You can imagine how many broad-minded people were tied to Medvedev, and here the bang was the second shift and all at once, we again had to trample on the new path, and this time is the time to make drastic changes.

        In the World, the evolutionary process of the transition of civilization to a new stage of its development, the so-called digital, from capitalism to digital, is ongoing. Putin is constantly talking about this, but with that corporate clan that Medvedev represents, this is impossible to do.

        Our task is to avoid a similar situation in the past, when the whole West passed to capitalism, and the Romanovs kept us in feudalism until the very end. The role of today's brake is played by the Medvedev clan.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 16 January 2020 08: 22
          +15
          Quote: Boris55
          The role of today's brake is played by the Medvedev clan.

          And who do you think is in the Putin clan? well besides Shoigu? And how do Vekselberg, Aven, Abramovich, Timchenko and St. Petersburg friends of GDP fit into your coordinate system? Where are they in your ranking card?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 16 January 2020 08: 28
            -9
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And who do you think is in the Putin clan? well besides Shoigu?

            Remember how the liberals pounced on Zolotov when he decided who he is (with Putin)? About SVR and the FSB, and so everything is clear. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the prosecutor’s office are changing.

            About holders of wallets whose contents do not belong to them, and their use for the benefit of Russia - why not?
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 16 January 2020 08: 36
              +20
              Quote: Boris55
              Remember how liberals pounced on Zolotov

              Is it that he bought cabbage for Rosguard five times more expensive? So there Medvedev’s signature was on the contracts. The crooks are both.
              Quote: Boris55
              And why not?

              Why not? Do you think that these "wallets" that rule the governments all over the world are just "piggy banks"? belay
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 16 January 2020 08: 41
                0
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                The crooks are both.

                Do you think that in the power that swindlers and thieves seized in the 90s, they will let white and fluffy so that he would take them to their faces on their faces? laughing

                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Do you think that these "wallets" that rule the governments all over the world are just "piggy banks"?

                Money has always been and will be only a tool for conducting management.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 16 January 2020 08: 43
                  +12
                  Quote: Boris55
                  the power that the crooks and thieves seized in the 90s will be let through by the white and fluffy so that he would take them on the face of their past?

                  Well, here our thoughts converge! good
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Money has always been and will be only a tool for conducting management.

                  And the tool holders always control it.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 16 January 2020 08: 55
                    -4
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    And the tool holders always control it.

                    Neither bankers, nor Leyba with the Roschelds and the Rockefelins, etc., rule the World. They rule them. I hope you remember when the Soviet Union was torn, how were the future bourgeois appointed to us? Do you think they have no obligations to those who appointed them?
              2. KCA
                KCA 16 January 2020 09: 36
                -8
                Excuse me, did the general run around the market and buy cabbage? I thought VV has a rear service
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 16 January 2020 09: 39
                  +10
                  Is it not customary to read contracts before signing? In addition, there in this "mutka" his friends and comrades are smeared. Review the video "How much is cabbage for the National Guard" - there the documents are presented.
                  1. KCA
                    KCA 16 January 2020 09: 43
                    -3
                    Are you sure that all the papers are read by managers at this level before they are signed? What does the president read every piece of paper? No, it’s done by special people, the president’s administration, I don’t know what the service is called in Rosguard.
                    To study, and thorough, to find out the real value of cabbage or carrots, in each piece of paper is not enough and 25 hours a day
                    1. 2 Level Advisor
                      2 Level Advisor 16 January 2020 09: 56
                      +11
                      okay, let's say he didn’t know .. why, the manager is not responsible for the subordinates he chose? Why then such a leader? well, let him be "deceived", and who is fired and punished? why nobody?
                      1. KCA
                        KCA 16 January 2020 10: 00
                        -9
                        Do you have sources in the personnel department of the Russian Guard and the secretariat that give you copies of all orders for the collection and dismissal? If some captain, or even a civil servant who brought a piece of paper for signature, was blown up and dried up, should the whole world know about this?
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 16 January 2020 10: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: KCA
                        If some captain, or even a civil servant who brought a piece of paper for signature, was blown up and dried up, should the whole world know about this?

                        Once again - review the video. There are no captains. And Medvedev personally signed the exclusive contract.
                      3. cradle
                        cradle 17 January 2020 02: 55
                        +1
                        Did you verify the authenticity of the document and signature? Are you an expert on Medvedev signatures? Medvedev is stealing cabbage? Himself not funny? I have a beginning. I won’t be engaged in such garbage ...
                      4. Roman070280
                        Roman070280 17 January 2020 15: 57
                        +1
                        Did you verify the authenticity of the document and signature?

                        Have you checked the authenticity ??
                        In general, did anyone check ??

                        Medvedev is stealing cabbage?

                        Medvedev is engaged in theft of money ..
                        Himself is not funny?
                        There is nothing funny about it ..
                      5. cradle
                        cradle 18 January 2020 09: 34
                        0
                        I note that I do not claim that M is engaged in theft of MONEY from cabbage. But we still have the presumption of innocence. And so you can blame anyone for any ... nonsense. I wildly doubt M's involvement in THIS .... well, not his level. Therefore, I insist, funny!
                      6. Roman070280
                        Roman070280 20 January 2020 12: 53
                        +1
                        And this is not rubbish ..
                        Such "nonsense" the whole country and take away ..

                        And while we have the presumption of innocence

                        well, not his level


                        That is, you still think that he is stealing levels higher ??
                        And so it is .. He generally, I’m sure, has no idea where the cabbage is, and where is the brick or concrete .. But he signs the paper, and he certainly has the money .. But it doesn’t write on the money why it was stolen. There is such a saying on this score ..

                        And so you can blame anyone

                        Yes, you can ..)) Try it ..
                      7. Kazbek
                        Kazbek 17 January 2020 19: 33
                        0
                        Watching clips of Heavenly is admitting to your own stupidity and the absence of logical and critical thinking. By the way, they say, addictive. This is akin to network marketing and destructive sects. Suggestible, insecure people sit up, as a rule, poorly educated.
                        The basement is lying in every line, and it has already been caught on this more than once. Shariy, two years ago, had a snack on him and devoted several issues to this "detective" ( laughing ).
                      8. KCA
                        KCA 18 January 2020 10: 38
                        -1
                        If I rely solely on videos from the Internet, I will begin to believe that any young white girl likes to be studded by five healthy blacks, I’m used to relying on logic and analysis, a long time ago
                      9. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 18 January 2020 10: 54
                        +2
                        Quote: KCA
                        I used to rely on logic and analysis, a long time ago

                        Then logically analyze Putin’s campaign promises from the year 2000. And compare with the present.
                      10. KCA
                        KCA 18 January 2020 11: 00
                        -1
                        I’ll analyze, carefully, how Yeltsin will be lifted from the rail, did he lie on them? Everyone promises, but there is a reality, if you make a list of all the promises of all candidates somewhere, all countries, there isn’t enough paper to print
                      11. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 18 January 2020 11: 07
                        +1
                        Well, with Yelchin, it’s clear that everyone is positioning him as an enemy (except for GDP), and Putin, even you have a successful leader.
                      12. KCA
                        KCA 18 January 2020 11: 19
                        -1
                        I have a shop right under the window, I go there often, the price tags change, if not discounts, well, about three times a month, for a part of the goods and a year they don’t change, but I remember when the price tags were changed for everything 3-4 times a day, yes, as for me, Putin is a successful leader, and I remember how I watched the doller rate every 10 minutes, because I traded computers and it’s straight, every 10 minutes it grew
                      13. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 18 January 2020 11: 21
                        +1
                        Quote: KCA
                        Putin is a successful leader

                        Compared to Yeltsin, yes. But why compare with the complete homo, let's compare with Stalin, with Lee Kuan Yu.
                    2. cradle
                      cradle 17 January 2020 02: 52
                      +1
                      one hundred pounds ... for there is no time for such dregs.
                    3. Roman070280
                      Roman070280 17 January 2020 15: 55
                      +1
                      No, special people do it,

                      People who specifically deceived Zolotov ??)

                      To study, and thorough, to find out the real value of cabbage or carrots, in each piece of paper is not enough and 25 hours a day


                      Hence the conclusion - you can not study anything, but simply blindly sign (and steal) .. and always talk about "25 hours" as an excuse ..
                  2. Cottodraton
                    Cottodraton 16 January 2020 13: 05
                    -1
                    I don’t know how much cabbage costs.
                    Yes, and the general, I think, too. This is not his direct duty ... They stuck him, he signed. This stupidity about cabbage touches. Let’s put you as a leader, give 100 papers and correct the necessary numbers in one. Prove later that you are not a camel
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 16 January 2020 13: 22
                      +5
                      Quote: Cottodraton
                      They stuck him, he signed.

                      For the gifted, and those who like to blame everything on negligent subordinates - watch the movie to the end. There the whole chain is revealed.
                    2. cradle
                      cradle 18 January 2020 09: 36
                      0
                      Well, like a cherry on a cake, just then WE WILL PLANT .... so it was funny.
                2. dirk182
                  dirk182 16 January 2020 19: 36
                  +1
                  One question ran or did not run. Another question is why he has not yet appeared before the court for this. As a suspect, a witness. Why is the whole country on the ears of their theft from the budget, and Putin only modestly "khe-khe"? And this President allegedly now decided to arrange a purge?))))) Do not tell
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 16 January 2020 15: 40
          0
          Quote: Boris55
          Our task is to avoid a similar situation in the past, when the whole West passed to capitalism, and the Romanovs kept us in feudalism until the very end.

          Are you sure that Russia, according to the official history, written by Miller and their ilk for you, really lived in feudalism and almost sat on trees, chewing bananas, while all enlightened light took leaps and bounds to a new stage in the development of civilization?
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 16 January 2020 09: 28
        +9
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I still think that the team is one. And there is a game of good / bad cops. But you need to understand that the fools are not there, and they understand that they have gone too far. The change of part of the characters is nothing more than a thoughtful, but populist move to relieve tension in society.

        This is all true, just repeat, remember the power structure in the after the Stalin Soviet Union, there were Soviets and there was a party, and who led the country, the secretary general, and who chose the secretary general, the right political bureau, state council + Security Council and there will be a political bureau!))) Nothing new, Komsomolets-banker Kinder can be calculated))))
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 16 January 2020 18: 23
          +4
          There King Kashchei wilts over gold;
          There is a Russian spirit ... there it smells of Rus!
          "Ruslan and Lyudmila", a poem, A.S. Pushkin

          Apparently, they decided to "revive" this particular control system.
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 16 January 2020 08: 18
      -7
      Quote: Boris55
      Clintonoid Stripping

      Yes, everything is correct, the time of lawyers and specialists in Roman law has passed.
      1. Altona
        Altona 16 January 2020 15: 38
        +5
        Quote: bober1982
        Yes, everything is correct, the time of lawyers and specialists in Roman law has passed.

        -------------------
        In Roman law, by the way, there are no installations to take taxes from natural resources, which all-water, air, mushrooms and berries have the right to use. So another question is what law they studied.
    3. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 16 January 2020 08: 24
      +21
      Boris55 (Boris)
      Everything is simple. Clintonoids are being cleansed and nationalization of not very stupid elites is taking place. Russia is getting out of control of the West.
      Boris hi , nothing personal, but there is such a Russian proverb: blessed is he who believes. Honestly, after the 2018 elections and feints with pension reform and VAT, the population’s confidence in the leader has greatly diminished.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 16 January 2020 08: 28
        +13
        "Hockey player" .... "Kudrin's henchman" - that says it all. yes
        1. Alexander Suvorov
          Alexander Suvorov 16 January 2020 08: 32
          +5
          Snail N9 (Snail)
          "Hockey player" .... "Kudrin's henchman" - that says it all. yes
          Who did you expect to see there? "Tenisista" ... "State Department henchman" ...? However, horseradish radish is not sweeter. Let's wait and see what comes of it all.
          In any case, radical changes, and even for the better, I’m somehow not waiting for a long time!
          1. 30143
            30143 16 January 2020 09: 25
            +2
            All the same, sweeter. I when I saw and. about., the appearance made me think. Look not at 53, but to match the Most Serene, at 65. I can not argue what kind of machine tool builder he is, but he was very nice to him.
        2. sergo1914
          sergo1914 16 January 2020 09: 07
          +6
          Quote: Snail N9
          "Hockey player" .... "Kudrin's henchman" - that says it all. yes


          Well, actually the most famous and popular hockey player in Russia is not him. Other. The greatest scorer of the night hockey league. Club and skate virtuoso.
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 16 January 2020 11: 42
          +3
          Quote: Snail N9
          "Hockey player" .... "Kudrin's henchman" - that says it all. yes

          Not all.
          Everything is said by a representative of the State Department - "
          "We [USA] are on the side of the citizens of Russia."
          ... It is especially touching that these Russian citizens, the United States, has been spilling over with sanctions for a number of years. The State Department is perplexed and very concerned, which means that the move made is correct and timely. Mattresses will not be able to influence further events in the near future, or they will be able to limitedly, since a number of "comrades" through whom it was possible to influence the domestic policy of Russia dropped out of the front line of politics and since 15.01.2020 have greatly lost their capabilities. In the near future, there will be screams from the State Department about the birth of a "dictatorship dictatorship" in Russia and about the "cynical demoralization of democracy", as well as threats to use more sanctions, since amendments to the Russian Constitution are being made without their knowledge. We will soon find out how much this "hockey player" will be better or worse than Medvedev, but the fact that the system of "ours and ours" tied to the prime minister has collapsed is no longer a bad thing.
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 16 January 2020 08: 31
        -9
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        after the 2018 elections and feints with pension reform and VAT, the population’s confidence in the leader has greatly diminished.

        What to do if people have not read the Basic Law of the country and are not aware that we all live according to the Laws.
        1. Alexander Suvorov
          Alexander Suvorov 16 January 2020 08: 39
          +22
          Boris55 (Boris)
          What to do if people have not read the Basic Law of the country and are not aware that we all live according to the Laws.
          You are a great optimist Boris. The strictness of Russian laws is offset by the non-binding nature of their implementation. The truth is not for everyone. For example, they can put me in prison if I steal something from the supermarket, but let’s say the same Chubais will most likely never be put in prison, although there’s not enough to shoot him.
          And then, where does the basic law of the country for the aspirations of the people for a change for the better? What, is it really written in the Constitution that the people should live only worse and worse?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 16 January 2020 08: 44
            -13
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            And then, where does the basic law of the country to the aspirations of the people

            Despite the fact that the laws are adopted by the elected Duma. Let’s take tomorrow, for example, the party of the Bolsheviks (which does not exist yet) and the Constitution will return on the 36th, for example, all laws will be rewritten in the interests of the people and we will have a 6-hour working day and prices will decrease annually and retirement will be the same, and even below ..
            1. Alexander Suvorov
              Alexander Suvorov 16 January 2020 08: 52
              +16
              The fact of the matter is that we have elections, but we have no choice. There is no one to choose from. Therefore, we choose not the one we want, but the one who is less disgusting from the proposed ones.
              I will say sedition, I am generally against elections and against this so-called "democracy". For me, only the presidential elections should be left, and the rest should be canceled, and at all levels. Disperse the State Duma as a parasite and a breeding ground for anti-national laws. Governors are appointed by the President, who then asks them. And then they settled down beautifully, when they were appointed, they were at least afraid of something, and then they were allegedly re-elected by the people and now they are practically inviolable.
              In Russia, any election is nonsense, so historically, maybe unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, I don’t know ...
              1. Karen
                Karen 16 January 2020 08: 57
                +7
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                For me, only presidential elections should be left,

                We went through such a mistake in Armenia ... We chose the most handsome-speaking man in the 91st, but it turned out that other forces were behind him, including the Mossad.
                1. Alexander Suvorov
                  Alexander Suvorov 16 January 2020 09: 05
                  +9
                  Well, we also chose a drunk at the time, and that was only because the humpbacked man with his reforms was so sick that everyone was already across his throat. Hoping for the best, but it turned out how.
                  1. Qwertyarion
                    Qwertyarion 16 January 2020 10: 43
                    0
                    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                    Well, so we once chose a drunk

                    He did not sit on a glass at the very beginning.
              2. Snail N9
                Snail N9 16 January 2020 12: 49
                +3
                An electronic vote counting system implies obtaining the desired result according to a given algorithm. The abolition of manual vote counting only confirms this. The Chinese system of "social loyalty", that is, a system in which a citizen is a citizen of the country only to the extent that he meets the requirements of the regime, the political system established in the country, completely excludes any opposing voting and protest mood of citizens. It is the Chinese system of "social loyalty that is taken as the basis for building relations between the state and the citizen in Russia."
          2. Kazbek
            Kazbek 17 January 2020 19: 49
            0
            The aspirations of our people are "The Tale of the Fisherman and the Fish" and the tale about Emelya and the pike. These aspirations will endlessly! Here some have already said that mate. capital of $ 10.000 is a pitiful handout for cattle! In general, the ability of some, in any positive shift, to immediately find the negative and screw up any good idea is surprising! For 10 years we dreamed of leaving the bear, so he left - again, not so !!! Stop whining already !!!
      3. dirk182
        dirk182 16 January 2020 19: 37
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        faith in a leader among the population greatly diminished.
        Reply

        It if soft and literary language
    4. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 16 January 2020 08: 32
      +16
      Boris, why is Mishustin not from the team? He didn’t come from somewhere, he’s just a new captain of the team from the same players that were on the field ..
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 16 January 2020 08: 47
        +20
        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
        Mishustin is not from the team? he didn’t come from somewhere

        Here yesterday, some colleagues on the site fell into euphoria from the resignation of Medvedev and the government and began to sing praises to Mishustin, supposedly a professional, he adjusted the work of the tax, oh now we’ll live, but I don’t expect anything good from the new prime minister, well, we replaced one mast on the gallery with another , maybe there will be more sails and the galley will float a little faster, but does the galley change course, the helmsman and steering wheel in good hands, we will wait 2024, but now it’s not worth guessing. hi
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 16 January 2020 09: 13
          +3
          But Mishustin already learned to squeeze taxes out of the people. In a new post, he will be able to consolidate this result. what It is sad for taxpayers.
          1. vadson
            vadson 16 January 2020 09: 54
            +3
            everyone should pay taxes, Mishustin brings illegal immigrants to the clean water. and doing well. it’s good for the state, not very good for business. BUT when, in the early 2000s, Putin forced the oil oligarchs to pay taxes to the budget for some reason, no one was against it. The population is not quite that part of the income from mining goes into the hands of a private trader (shareholders, business owners of the extraction of these same minerals), but they must pay taxes on their profits. IMHO contracts with the budget should receive firms that are registered in the Russian Federation, and pay taxes here. foreign contractors should receive contracts in exceptional cases when domestic business cannot cope with the task. it is also necessary to solve the problem when contracts are received by companies belonging to the relatives of officials, here, as they say, is not a tillage field.
          2. Qwertyarion
            Qwertyarion 16 January 2020 10: 46
            +1
            He had only sought them before, and now he will also introduce new ones, knowingly.
            1. bessmertniy
              bessmertniy 16 January 2020 11: 32
              0
              On the other hand, it can be expected that it will also squeeze those who evade taxes altogether, and one should also look at the tax benefits - the business takes its assets under them, and the tax press is shifted to the population.
              1. Qwertyarion
                Qwertyarion 16 January 2020 11: 50
                0
                It is possible, but in addition to tight tax control, stimulation of business development is also necessary.
                That is, if there are no new jobs, then there is no movement of the economy.
    5. max702
      max702 16 January 2020 09: 18
      +1
      It would not be bad if there would be a referendum to bring to it the question of GOVERNMENT domestic law over international.. This is a very important question .. Yes, and some other articles imposed in the "holy 90s" would not hurt to correct ..
      1. vadson
        vadson 16 January 2020 09: 56
        +3
        such as landing with confiscation for officials, the result of 90 percent in the referendum will receive a positive
    6. New Year day
      New Year day 16 January 2020 10: 55
      +9
      Quote: Boris55
      The United States is still trying to comprehend what is happening in the Kremlin.

      Everything is simple. Clintonoids are being cleansed and nationalization of not very stupid elites is taking place. Russia is getting out of control of the West.

      Putin wants to remain in power "forever" and "reign" undividedly.

      The West can still pray for Putin because the one who comes after the 24th will definitely not suit them.

      No one will come because no one is leaving. Putin remains
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 16 January 2020 12: 52
        +5
        The Night League hockey team remains .... wink
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 16 January 2020 08: 15
    +15
    to remain in power "forever" and "reign" undividedly.
    But I really do not like it!
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 16 January 2020 08: 28
      +3
      And I liked this pearl:
      Ortagus told RTVI that "we [the US] are on the side of Russian citizens."
      Oh how, she is on my side! Truly, beware of Danians bringing gifts.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 16 January 2020 09: 14
        +1
        Once on the side, then let him collect manat and go to live in Russia. There is nothing for him to slander pears there. lol
      2. cradle
        cradle 18 January 2020 12: 45
        0
        noble pearl laughing
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 16 January 2020 14: 29
      +5
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      But I really do not like it!

      and for that-

      suddenly like it?
  3. knn54
    knn54 16 January 2020 08: 22
    +4
    The ruble fell by 21 kopecks, the price of the Government.
    And the fact that MEDVEDEV was dozing-winter, however. In Russia, "bear" from time immemorial in this period was taken.
    Everything else is too early to discuss.
  4. _Sergei_
    _Sergei_ 16 January 2020 08: 24
    -1
    Who will become president in the year 2024 cannot be predicted in the West.

    Even in Russia, only "experts" who could not guess who will be the prime minister can predict.
  5. Nitochkin
    Nitochkin 16 January 2020 08: 25
    +1
    Something in Dimon’s last photo of his mug has some kind of sour face, here are the tears that will roll. Apparently they said that enough was enough, Dimulechka, played the premiere, it’s time and honor to know. On the potty and sleep.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 16 January 2020 09: 59
      +1
      Well, in general - so he sent the government to resign) besides, do you really think that such issues are not discussed in advance? despite the fact that GDP and DAM are at least good comrades, I think even friends?
  6. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 16 January 2020 08: 29
    -8
    Better Vladimir the Wise than False Dmitry.
  7. Ravik
    Ravik 16 January 2020 08: 31
    +8
    As one movie hero said: The Mafia is immortal.
    From myself I’ll add: Only the names change.
  8. Amateur
    Amateur 16 January 2020 08: 31
    -3
    Who will become president in the year 2024 cannot be predicted in the West.

    Now, instead of "Putin's billions" who are looking for and looking but cannot find, they have to look for a tree with a nest, a duck, an egg, and so on. (read the tale about Kashchei the immortal) fellow
  9. 3vs
    3vs 16 January 2020 08: 32
    +10
    Who will become president in the year 2024 cannot be predicted in the West.

    The next president will be hairy!
    In our country, from the beginning of the last century, Nicholas II was hairy, Lenin bald, Stalin hairy, Khrushchev bald, Brezhnev hairy, Andropov bald, Chernenko hairy, Gorbachev bald, Yeltsin hairy, Putin bald, Medvedev hairy, Putin bald, so the next president will be hairy ! yes
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 16 January 2020 08: 39
      +1
      Nicholas just had if not bald, then considerable bald patches. But Kerensky was hairy.
  10. Far B
    Far B 16 January 2020 08: 37
    +5
    with an income of 183,31 million rubles (2,6 million pounds).
    Not bad. The kid came to success.
    For Western politicians, commentators and experts, Russian political decisions of January 15 came as a complete surprise.
    For ours too.

    Who will become president in the year 2024 cannot be predicted in the West.
    Oops. And we are taken, adit ?!
    1. Loess
      Loess 16 January 2020 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: Dalny V
      with an income of 183,31 million rubles (2,6 million pounds).
      Not bad. The kid came to success.
      Some contradiction doesn’t seem strange to you: a bourgeois publication writes 183 million in 2015, yesterday one of the commentators cited an income of 18 million for, it seems, 2018. Moreover, the bourgeois publication simply calls the number, and the commentator referred to the income statement.
      1. Far B
        Far B 16 January 2020 09: 18
        +4
        But doesn't it seem strange to you that you are referring to the OBS (one of the commentators)? His high incomes do not seem strange to me, if only because among our top officials it is quite customary to introduce each other to the board of directors of various companies. With getting from this appropriate plush. So it all fits together.
        1. Loess
          Loess 16 January 2020 09: 35
          -1
          Quote: Dalny V
          But doesn't it seem strange to you that you are referring to the OBS (one of the commentators)?

          I find a lot of things strange about "this best of worlds". Searching for Old is frankly lazy. I just presented you with an alternative point of view on the question that interests you. At the same time I was puzzled by another question 0 how much can you trust such a publication as Forbes) If I don't forget, I will try to clarify it for myself ...
      2. Alexander I
        Alexander I 16 January 2020 12: 22
        0
        he came from business, now his wife manages the assets. The indicated 183 lemas are close to the total family income
        1. Loess
          Loess 16 January 2020 12: 43
          0
          Quote: AlexanderI
          The indicated 183 lemas are close to the total family income

          Here about the family in Forbes is not mentioned. In addition, the wife’s income in the comment I mentioned is estimated at 48 million over the same period. I repeat once again - I personally did not look for information, this is not particularly interesting to me, I just see how different the numbers are indicated in different sources. Which of them to take on faith is a matter for each individual.
          1. Alexander I
            Alexander I 17 January 2020 08: 20
            0
            The man came from business and before tax gave the company management to his wife. This seems to be the total family income.
      3. dirk182
        dirk182 16 January 2020 19: 45
        0
        why wonder?))) who is he? after all, the head of the Federal Tax Service) and then voila, 183 smoothly turn into 18.
  11. Esaul
    Esaul 16 January 2020 08: 54
    +3
    As soon as the term of the leader began to come to an end, they immediately decided to quickly adjust the constitution (concepts) for themselves, so as not to miss the power in any case. I am sure that they will never tell us about some of the amendments, they will only talk about the "publicized list of positive changes" in the zombie box. It is necessary by any means to block the constitutional change and completely change the government in the next elections, and the current organized criminal group must be tried.
    1. Fibrizio
      Fibrizio 16 January 2020 09: 50
      +3
      Most likely I will make an exception to the rule and this time I will go to vote, of course against.
      But it will not solve anything. Yesterday everyone decided for us.
    2. dirk182
      dirk182 16 January 2020 19: 49
      0
      I absolutely agree with you, but it was not for nothing that a nightingale propaganda trill poured from the blue screen for so long, it was not for nothing that Medvedev publicly outplayed all the games on his iPhone) The stake is placed on the emotional part of our society, which is already ready to vote "for"
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 16 January 2020 09: 00
    +1
    The largest changes in government that Vladimir Putin went to became the number one topic in the world media.

    Permutations within the SYSTEM.
    If the news is the "deck shuffle" event itself, then OUCH, this event ... and so ???
    We will see, they will see, not all at once, gradually.
  13. sergo1914
    sergo1914 16 January 2020 09: 09
    +3
    I don’t understand why everyone was so attached to the vineyard. The same bed with potatoes. Only in Italy. Everyone has it. At my neighbor's house, too, grapes grow. I planted this year. What's wrong? 300 rub seedling.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 16 January 2020 09: 11
      0
      What's wrong? 300 rub seedling.


      And in which region did they plant and what is the collection from the bush? hi
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 16 January 2020 09: 13
        0
        Moscow region. Still not collecting. Is growing. A neighbor bucket takes five.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 16 January 2020 09: 15
          0
          Not bad ... very good.
        2. Loess
          Loess 16 January 2020 09: 37
          0
          Quote: sergo1914
          Moscow region. Still not collecting. Is growing. A neighbor bucket takes five.

          A grade you will not prompt? Maybe I'll get one too.
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 16 January 2020 09: 42
            0
            Quote: Less
            Quote: sergo1914
            Moscow region. Still not collecting. Is growing. A neighbor bucket takes five.

            A grade you will not prompt? Maybe I'll get one too.


            I do not remember. In Leroy they sell in season.
            1. Loess
              Loess 16 January 2020 09: 47
              +1
              Quote: sergo1914
              In Leroy, they sell in season

              In our wilderness, Leroy only began to build. And from scratch. Although, I must admit, the construction rates are impressive - it seems like they want to open in the fall.
              We'll have to read about grapes on the net.
  14. populist
    populist 16 January 2020 09: 24
    0
    Boris55 (Boris)
    What to do if people have not read the Basic Law of the country and are not aware that we all live according to the Laws.

    We live below, according to the laws, and they live purely specifically above. wink
    Then do not go to the grandmother. Sorry ... I wanted to say that there is no point in reading the basic law. negative
  15. Olgovich
    Olgovich 16 January 2020 09: 39
    -10
    Let the hypocritical deceitful West barks what wants

    The President in the Message provides improving the welfare of the population, improving the deiographic situation, conducting a democratization of society, and this is important for Russia.

    For this, another Premier is needed.

    I hope that they will succeed. hi
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 16 January 2020 10: 06
      +3
      Well .. Olgovich has already begun, and you won’t say that you’re wrong))) but about the State Council, who will be its chairman, how will you comment, Andrey? And why is it needed at all? but something about no less important you said nothing ..
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 16 January 2020 10: 38
        -6
        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
        and about the state council who will be its chairman, how do you comment, Andrei? And why is he needed at all?

        I don’t know yet, there’s nothing to talk about.

        And I liked the Message itself — it’s wonderful, for example, that after three years they will pay a good allowance for children — not even in all EU countries there is such a thing (in size).
        Good support!
        1. dirk182
          dirk182 16 January 2020 19: 53
          +1
          enough for walls with a ceiling in a concrete box) and then the eternal questions: how to dress, feed, pay for kindergarten and school, communal apartment. And then there are grandparents working. We'll have to hire a nanny, who refuses to sit for five and three. And off we go. And at work, another cut. And here it’s not even about the benefits. And in the absence of normal work. Young families from all over the country are drawn to the capital, St. Petersburg, cities where they can earn money. This is where the "unwillingness" to have children arises. Salaries and housing costs are disproportionate. Moscow's salaries, and the number of jobs in the regions, then one could still speculate.

          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 17 January 2020 10: 38
            -3
            gg
            Quote: dirk182
            This is where the "unwillingness" to have children arises. Salaries and housing costs are disproportionate. Moscow's salaries, and the number of jobs in the regions, then one could still speculate

            In cities there are no large families.
            And the village was destroyed by the 1980s.

            In Moscow, by the way, the situation is not much better, despite the salary.
  16. Fibrizio
    Fibrizio 16 January 2020 09: 55
    +3
    Quote: bober1982
    the time of lawyers and specialists in Roman law has passed.

    And when did it come? As security officials were in power in our country, they still sit there. The main motto is that we don’t give our own. I have come across these in life. They don’t give up their own, even the guilty and idiots. The main thing is fidelity.
    So there is no smell of civilists there. If they are allowed into the State Duma or into another authority, this does not mean that they have the right to decide.

    Then whose time has come? FSBshnikov and MCHSnikov?
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 16 January 2020 10: 17
      0
      Quote: Fibrizio
      If they are allowed into the State Duma or into another authority

      As one famous film director managed to wittyly say - when I say about the inadmissibility of having dual citizenship, I will not reveal the meaning of which category of citizens we are talking about so as not to bother - a third of the audience shuddered.
    2. vka
      vka 16 January 2020 12: 17
      -3
      it’s better to let there be FSBshnikov and MChSnikov than liberals who are ready to sell for seven "silver"
      1. Fibrizio
        Fibrizio 16 January 2020 13: 42
        0
        They may not sell anything, but will distribute it according to their own, which makes ordinary people generally not cold or hot. They do not like strangers.
        Just need to add that in the economy they know no more than a security guard or an office accountant.
        You do not doubt that rockets should be built by an engineer and professional workers, and not FSO employees for example. But their rocket is unlikely to fly far, even sanctify it, at least not.
        1. vka
          vka 17 January 2020 13: 01
          0
          I didn’t see anything thinking liberals in the economy, but the FSB officer put the country from its knees or argued
          1. Fibrizio
            Fibrizio 17 January 2020 13: 03
            0
            So where do they come from? There qualification. Faithful, his own, served. The guys with degrees in economics did not serve in the army, they had other interests. And given the fact that this same economy appeared in its current form in the Russian Federation 30 years ago, they probably didn’t get an education here either.
            And who will let them in, they are almost enemies of the people in the eyes of our FSB officers, FSO officers and others.
            1. vka
              vka 19 January 2020 13: 31
              0
              Exactly the guys with degrees from us, the last cowards tore off so that they wouldn’t fill their pockets and do not serve in the army, and they wouldn’t protect this country, they don’t give a damn about this country, it’s effective and civilized to sell everything only in the same way they were taught over the hill.
  17. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 16 January 2020 10: 30
    +2
    . Who will become president in the year 2024 cannot be predicted in the West.

    Yes, this is not interesting.
    Who cares who will play the role of a decisive president ...
  18. Jarserge
    Jarserge 16 January 2020 11: 36
    -2
    I could never understand the perverted logic and twisted brain of American and generally Western experts. Conclusions are made by unexpected, unconnected logically, just those that are beneficial to them and allow at least somehow to offend Russia
    1. Fibrizio
      Fibrizio 16 January 2020 14: 20
      +3
      But do not we also? What to go far. When Iran brought down a Boeing. Our propagandists changed 180 degrees in the air. They also lie by order. This work.
  19. vka
    vka 16 January 2020 12: 11
    -3
    we’ll look at the re-turbulence of officials, but the way they were stumbled across the ocean together with our liberals, this alone is a pleasure, it makes sense angry
  20. iouris
    iouris 16 January 2020 13: 17
    -1
    What can I say? 1) The next premiere will be "hairy". 2) The West has to live with Russia for a long time, then you will live to see everything.
  21. frizzy
    frizzy 16 January 2020 13: 26
    -1
    And what kind of gadget is in Mishustin’s pocket, if iPhone is everything will be the same as with DAM, or even worse
    1. Fibrizio
      Fibrizio 16 January 2020 17: 30
      0
      And what is fundamentally Samsung or Huawei better or worse?
  22. gulliver
    gulliver 16 January 2020 17: 35
    +1
    Quote: Boris55
    The United States is still trying to comprehend what is happening in the Kremlin.

    Everything is simple. Clintonoids are being cleansed and nationalization of not very stupid elites is taking place. Russia is getting out of control of the West.

    Putin wants to remain in power "forever" and "reign" undividedly.

    The West can still pray for Putin because the one who comes after the 24th will definitely not suit them.

    Amen!
  23. cniza
    cniza 16 January 2020 18: 07
    +2
    This is so that Putin "could become the new plenipotentiary prime minister." And after 2024, this step will allow Putin to "rule for life."


    You will never guess how it will be and what will happen, because you don’t know Russia ...
  24. Crystal of Truth
    Crystal of Truth 17 January 2020 15: 00
    -1
    It seems that the next president will be Medvedev .. Only not in the 24th year, but earlier .. There is no time for buildup