Poroshenko's forces accused Zelensky of secret negotiations with Surkov in Oman and the death of the Boeing

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One of the founders of the “Ukrainian Institute of the Future” Anatoly Amelin put forward the version that Zelensky’s visit to Oman was not connected with rest, but with secret negotiations with Moscow regarding the introduction of a special status in the Donbass.

Moreover, he is not the only one who proposed a similar version. On the same day, a public figure Vadim Labas spoke with her on the Ukrainian television channel Direct, owned by the media group of Petro Poroshenko.



According to this version, Zelensky’s trip to Oman and the Ukrainian Boeing shot down in Iran have a “direct connection”, because both events occur simultaneously.

Further more interesting. Zelensky and the Russian delegation, led by Vladislav Surkov, for secret negotiations on the Donbass arrive in Oman on the night before the disaster. In the process, the parties do not come to a common opinion, and take a break.

From the Ukrainian version, more like notes from the "chamber number 6":

Then the Russian special services contact the IRGC and ask to shoot down the Ukrainian plane in order to demonstrate their power to Ukraine and put pressure on it. After the disaster, negotiations resume, and Zelensky makes concessions to Moscow.

This is how the "horse-people" mixed up in a bunch of Ukrainian "science fiction writers."

It seems that this will not end there. Most likely, one should expect further either new Western sanctions against Russia for the Ukrainian plane shot down by the Iranians, or demands of the impeachment of Zelensky for a "criminal conspiracy" with Moscow.

As practice shows, the Ukrainian panopticon continues to make attempts to gain its own political points on the deaths of its fellow citizens, as in the case of UIA's Boeing.
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  1. +8
    13 January 2020 13: 29
    "Ukrainian Institute of the Future" ... It already sounds kind of vague ...
    1. +9
      13 January 2020 13: 35
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      "Ukrainian Institute of the Future" ... It already sounds kind of vague ...


      also rezanul ... but judging by the activities - there is no future
      1. +5
        13 January 2020 13: 41
        Their future is all in the past, they are already rolling, or rather they are flying into the abyss.
        1. +5
          13 January 2020 13: 46
          Or maybe there really was a meeting with Surkov? In an attempt to prevent flying into the abyss?
          1. +6
            13 January 2020 14: 20
            I admit that there are only pluses in this, we do not need problems at hand.
            1. +3
              13 January 2020 22: 56
              Nevertheless, in Kiev itself there are those who troll the current government.
              This is how they wrote the word "Kyiv"
              1. +1
                14 January 2020 08: 52
                I would call it a bad sense of humor.
          2. +2
            13 January 2020 16: 48
            Or maybe there really was a meeting with Surkov? In an attempt to prevent flying into the abyss?

            Surely there are contacts that are not advertised.
            Another thing is who and how presents them.
      2. +5
        13 January 2020 13: 45
        There is no future, they have abandoned the past.
      3. +1
        13 January 2020 18: 43
        Quote: vorobey
        also rezanul ... but judging by the activities - there is no future

        hi
        Judging by the current heralded concept of this newly invented slaughterhouse, the future is shit. As for the meeting between Surkov and Zelensky, this "agreement" is unlikely, although the devil is not joking ... Well, the connection between the Boeing crash and the participation of the Russian Federation in this is a complete whistle of degraded brains.
    2. +1
      13 January 2020 13: 54
      With the "maidan of the brain", any fantasies can become a reality for a sick person.
    3. -2
      13 January 2020 14: 25
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      "Ukrainian Institute of the Future" ... It already sounds kind of vague ...

      Ukrainian Institute of the Future is an independent think tank (like Levada)
      1. -1
        13 January 2020 18: 30
        Quote: Σελήνη
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        "Ukrainian Institute of the Future" ... It already sounds kind of vague ...

        Ukrainian Institute of the Future is an independent think tank (like Levada)

        Independent???? What did you mean? And, I understood, - a SHUT such.
        1. +3
          13 January 2020 18: 56
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Independent???? What did you mean? And, I understood, - a SHUT such.

          hi
          But interestingly, these jokers-storytellers in their forecasts took into account the attitude towards them in "Europe" and "America"?
    4. 0
      13 January 2020 17: 54
      Yes, in any country there are enough people with oddities. Is it worth paying attention to them?
      1. +6
        13 January 2020 23: 26
        Of course enough. But in normal countries, society is trying to protect itself from them. They are kept in special institutions in a society of their own kind under vigilant guard.
        1. -1
          14 January 2020 07: 42
          Concentration camps? Some have already passed. That kind of government policy smells bad.
  2. +10
    13 January 2020 13: 37
    Then the Russian special services contact the IRGC and ask to shoot down the Ukrainian plane in order to demonstrate their power to Ukraine and put pressure on it. After the disaster, negotiations resume, and Zelensky makes concessions to Moscow.


    Keep the addict! laughing
    1. +7
      13 January 2020 14: 14
      accused Zelensky of secret negotiations with Surkov in Oman

      Petro Alekseich did not notice the most important thing. After their visit there, a new sultan was appointed in Oman today. Coincidence? Or have Zelensky and Surkov demonstrated their power? What does the Ukrainian Institute of the Future think about this? feel
      1. 0
        13 January 2020 16: 13
        Or have Zelensky and Surkov demonstrated their power? What does the Ukrainian Institute of the Future think about this? good good good
  3. +1
    13 January 2020 13: 38
    if you are not attached to any guidelines, and even more so in the absence of principles and conscience, you can invent anything you like, without restrictions and looking back on sanity and motives
  4. 0
    13 January 2020 13: 38
    For some reason, I remembered a movie with a robot Werther.
    1. 0
      13 January 2020 14: 25
      Quote: olhon
      For some reason, I remembered a movie with a robot Werther.

      What is wrong with Werther?
      1. -1
        13 January 2020 14: 43
        Competitions robotic guitarists.
  5. +3
    13 January 2020 13: 39
    This is how the "horse-people" mixed up in a bunch of Ukrainian "science fiction writers."


    For a long time in their heads a continuous vinaigrette ...
  6. +3
    13 January 2020 13: 42
    Just not out of hard drinking.
  7. +2
    13 January 2020 14: 01
    Russian special services contact the IRGC and ask to bring down a Ukrainian plane in order to demonstrate their power to Ukraine in this way


    I sobbed ..))
    Although, Petya didn’t push this in power .. so it looks like him ..
    1. +2
      13 January 2020 14: 06
      Quote: Roman070280
      Although, Petya didn’t push this in power ..

      At exactly bully
      The genius of Ukrainians everywhere, step by step, has changed and continues to change the planet - in dozens of countries, on all continents, from the microworld of genetics to the astronautics
    2. -1
      13 January 2020 18: 50
      Quote: Roman070280
      Petya didn’t push this when he was in power.

      hi
      Do not multiply my sorrows. Is he still breathing? I sob and refuse dinner. bully
  8. 0
    13 January 2020 14: 17
    "secret diplomacy"? yes, it's kind of normal, nothing unusual .... the creepers don't know who else to hit?
  9. 0
    13 January 2020 14: 17
    "Poroshenko's forces" ... A grammatical construction, however. So I imagined Peter giving instructions to Zelensky. "You wield mighty power. You will become a great Sith!" "Only one of many managed to deceive the European Union, but together, I am sure, we will be able to solve this mystery." "I still have scars from the New Year holidays, I am disfigured. But I assure you that my determination to improve my health is stronger than ever!"
    1. 0
      13 January 2020 14: 31
      Quote: Arthur 85
      So he imagined Peter giving instructions to Zelensky.

      Some "agents of Putin" accuse other "agents of Putin" that they are "agents of Putin"!
  10. -1
    13 January 2020 14: 24
    A downed plane could be a deterrent (as racketeers shot a victim’s leg in the 90s ...), ”Amelin wrote on Facebook.

    Apparently "war with tourists" (Qatar flooded a Russian airliner in Egypt for example and killed the ambassador)
    as an example, the Zelensky’s opposition is worried. But I don’t care what to put forward. The main thing is against.
  11. 0
    13 January 2020 14: 47
    According to this version, Zelensky’s trip to Oman and the Ukrainian Boeing shot down in Iran have a “direct connection”, because both events occur simultaneously.
    So what? Now no one is demanding "proof", there is enough video on the Internet, so I'm still surprised that they didn't say that Putin himself flew to Oman ...
  12. 0
    13 January 2020 15: 48
    Already probably the 7th or 8th article about Iran, Ukraine and Boeing.
    Now, if someone at least didn’t think with Zelensky-Maidan cliches -Terrorism -Ukrainians, etc ...
    And just to think that in our time the media are trying to cheat on us:

    Details:
    http://911tm.9bb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=1923&p=15
  13. +1
    13 January 2020 16: 53
    On the death of people, now the gutters' ratings will begin to earn .. My very elbows are covered in blood ..!
  14. 0
    13 January 2020 17: 24
    Where did the chocolate pig get its strength from? After all, their camarilla is built on the lies and licking of the owner’s shoes.
  15. +6
    13 January 2020 18: 23
    From the Ukrainian version, which looks more like a note from "ward No. 6"

    For normal people they are delusional, but for Poroshenko and "K" - the more such versions, the further from criminal prosecution, or prison.
  16. 0
    14 January 2020 07: 39
    For the introduction of additional sanctions and the promotion of another round of Russophobia, such an interpretation can also roll. The more monstrous a lie, the more likely it is to be believed
  17. 0
    14 January 2020 19: 32
    Everyone believes in what he wants to believe.