How to complete the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline: Putin and Merkel meeting in the Kremlin

For the first time in several years, German Chancellor Angela Merkel arrived on a visit to the Kremlin. This is a working trip of the Federal Chancellor to Russia, during which, as reported, attention is paid to a wide range of issues. In particular, Vladimir Putin and Angela Merkel are discussing a situation related to rising tensions in the Middle East.

The press service of the President of the Russian Federation noted that the Minsk Agreements, as well as the results of the meeting in the Norman format, which took place in France on December 9 last year, are a separate topic for discussion. Recall that back then, statements were made from the sidelines of the meeting that the next such summit could take place in April 2020, "if all the agreements reached at the meeting in Paris are fulfilled." It was also understood the agreement on the exchange of held persons between Kiev and the republics of Donbass.

Angela Merkel:

Thank you very much for inviting me to come to Moscow. We have a whole list of different topics that we want to talk about with you. These are bilateral topics and topics on the international agenda that are of joint interest for our countries: this is Libya, this is Syria, this is the Minsk process and bilateral topics, as I said.

By bilateral topics, Merkel refers to the problems that arose with the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. Recall that under US pressure, the Swiss company Allseas withdrew its vessels from the water area in which the final stage of pipe laying in the Baltic was carried out. At that time, it remained to lay no more than 150 km of pipes.

The other day, Russian officials made a statement that Russia would complete the construction of the pipeline on its own. Apparently, Vladimir Putin and Angela Merkel are also discussing the topic of how to jointly complete the SP-2, subject to US sanctions and Washington's intimidation of those companies that were involved in the work. What the solution may be will become clear by how the project frozen at the moment will continue to be implemented.

Merkel before the dialogue:

It is always better to talk with each other than about each other.

Comments

[Thrifty]

So what is there with a fine to the Swiss who disrupted the construction, and simply escaped? Should they pay something to Russia, or are we too proud to demand any more money from them? ??

[Spartanez300]

Well, let's hope that the negotiations will be productive for our countries as a result.

[Dmitry Donskoy]

Russia is to blame for all of them, sanctions to us, but as a roasted cock in the ass pecked. I immediately came to the Kremlin to ask.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

But as a roasted cock in the ass pecked. Immediately came to the Kremlin to ask

So, after all, the West: double standards are in the order of things ...
"Neighbor, give me something to devour, otherwise I have nothing to shit under the door."

[cniza]

They finally made sure that if the United States throws them, then we must agree ... Greetings!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: cniza

USA will throw them

These will throw everyone, especially at a profit of 300%.
Hi Victor!

[cniza]

Everything is steeper there and the European market is at stake ... they will drop for 30%.

[bouncyhunter]

Maybe I don’t know the laws of business. Especially American.

[cost]

pasha Do not Cry the blues
You are quoting "Capital" by Marx, and Viktor quoted you in response "On the American" black redistribution "of Marx and Engels

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Dim! I am not strong in the writings of the theorists of communism or something similar.
But I respect those who are familiar with those!

[cost]

So this is not a theory of communism, but political economy. By the way, Karl and Friedrich world dollar dominance predicted long before the WWII

[cniza]

And what then will they also predicted - collapse.

[cost]

Someone's collapse is always the beginning of a new mess. The main thing is to overtake others and be able to take advantage of opportunities

[cniza]

Here I am about the same, there will be no vacuum, someone will come and fill ...

[Alex Nevs]

In the expression "American black fart" - it is necessary to write correctly, the letter is superfluous.

[Terenin]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Maybe I don’t know the laws of business. Especially American.

Welcome
Pasha, he, the basic law of business, is that in the USA, that ... on the moon, as it was, it is - to buy cheaper and sell more expensive (D - T - D)

[bouncyhunter]

Hello, Gene!
I am not a businessman, but a simple hard worker. So all these laws of Marx-Engels are far from me as the Sun is from the Small Magellanic Cloud.

[Terenin]

Quote: bouncyhunter

far from me as the Sun is from the Small Magellanic Cloud.

Pasha who are you talking to now?
There will be laughter, if in this dwarf galaxy, a similar law works like a clock

[bouncyhunter]

To blame, he voiced his thoughts without thinking about the consequences ...

Quote: Terenin

a similar law works like a clock

If scientists don’t lie, then it works. Although, I was not there - I can not say ...

[cost]

Judging by the way we were minded here, the minusers disagree with comrades Marx and Engels

[Chaldon48]

"Buy cheaper and sell more expensive" both goods and people. However, people are also goods.

[Pandiurin]

US main profit under other schemes
D-V-D money is war is money
The old scheme of monetizing military operations at the expense of the losing side, the old "good" scheme.

Dd money money
The product is an extra link in exchange frauds and if present, then as virtual or fake.
And if we just print money (FRS) then the goods are also not needed, market control is required (rating agencies, courts ...)

[orionvitt]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Maybe I don’t know the laws of business. Especially American

There is an old joke on this subject.
Two American businessmen are sitting at lunch. One says:
- There are thousands of ways to make a business for yourself and only one of them is honest.
The second asks:
- Interesting, what is this?
The first answers:
-- How do I know...

This is all you need to know about American business, and business in general.

[Lelek]

Quote: bouncyhunter

These will throw everyone, especially at a profit of 300%

, Paul.
Maybe, in any case, judging by the speech of Merkel, she emphasized that RUSSIA MUST FINISH SP-2, and the FRG (supporters, their mother) will be watched from the side. Fanfarism and indulgence. Putin assured that under all conditions SP-2 will be completed (... the triangle will be drunk, whether it is a box, whether it is a circle, a louse is edged!).

[SSR]

Quote: bouncyhunter

"Neighbor, give me something to devour, otherwise I have nothing to shit under the door."

+ oily. Balts, logs, and all sorts of siblings in which Russia swelled 105 yards each from 2000 to 2014! Everyone was booming that there would be something to spoil.

[Grandfather]

Quote from S.S.R.

Quote: bouncyhunter

"Neighbor, give me something to devour, otherwise I have nothing to shit under the door."

+

oily

. Balts, logs, and all sorts of siblings in which Russia swelled 105 yards from 2000 to 2014! Everyone was booming that there would be something to spoil.

Glory to Miller and Putin ... forward ..

[Machito]

Sausages want gas

[Semurg]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

Russia is to blame for all of them, sanctions to us, but as a roasted cock in the ass pecked. I immediately came to the Kremlin to ask.

Merkel which cock pecked? She leaves politics, she will probably steer 1,2 in the Nord Stream operator. Or maybe in the board of Gazprom it will be worse than Schroeder.

[cost]

Or maybe on the board of Gazprom it will be worse than Schroeder.?

Yes, at least because she doesn’t drink much, she doesn’t like jokes, doesn’t go to the sauna with the girls, doesn’t play the accordion. In general, it will be boring with her on corporate parties

[igor67]

Quote: Rich

does not go to a sauna with girls

why doesn’t it go

[Grandfather]

Quote: igor67

Quote: Rich

does not go to a sauna with girls

why doesn’t it go

for his age, Frau was quite .... maybe he’d overcome two of them ... and there would be less problems ... out of the blue .... get out ... if you know ... so everyone ...

[igor67]

Quote: Dead Day

for his age, frau was quite

the test Komsomol was

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: igor67

the test Komsomol was

A Komsomol member without a neck at all, she would be in boxing, but she rushed to politics.

[Romka]

Well, it’s customary there. I remember in Greece on the beach, even at first they were shy of their topless old women.

[Lexus]

She, like all "partners", comes here exclusively for gesheft. Do not flatter yourself

Only now we do not have such honest and disinterested "Glazkovs" (film "Chief of Chukotka", 1966) at the helm, instead of them there are thieving "Temples" everywhere, therefore the attitude towards Russia is appropriate ...

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

I immediately came to the Kremlin to ask.

Angela Merkel:

Thank you very much for inviting me to come to Moscow.

here, as if she were invited, the matter concerns both states.

[kjhg]

"The fighters recalled the days gone by and the battles that they had spent together."

[Grandfather]

Quote: Spartanez300

How to complete the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline: Putin and Merkel meeting in the Kremlin

and glory to EP and Putin ... what's wrong with you ?

[Vadim237]

It is not known how this office was paid - if 50% is paid in advance, then Gazprom will not pay them the remaining amount of 50%, since the contract has not been fulfilled by the contractor.

[cniza]

Most likely they paid according to the acts of the work performed, but some amount will necessarily hang.

[sergey32]

I read somewhere that referred to the clause in the contract of force majeure. Gazprom paid for what was actually built, and did not have any forfeits. Gazprom lawyers screwed up once allowed the sanctions of a third country to be considered force majeure. For such a salary they need to tear.

[Sergey39]

Both parties were aware of possible sanctions and their proposed introduction was reflected in the contract. There's no one to blame. Well, except for the USA, of course.

[sergey32]

I'm losing weight with such contracts. It's like agreeing with anyone about laying communications into the house, and the performer quits halfway through work and says "my mother-in-law gnaws at me, my wife doesn't give me money for contacting you, but give me money." And the customer is left with a dug trench and without heat and water in the hut and there is no one else to turn to.

[Mityay65]

Quote: sergey32

I am losing weight with such contracts.

This is standard practice when entering into an engineering contract. Disclaimer on application. No company in Europe would agree to work without it.
This was known in advance. But the campaign, the contract with this company was the condition for working with the Germans. Rollback.

[ultra]

Quote: Mityai65

No company in Europe would agree to work without it

Nonsense! This kind of work, and even with such volumes, is not very much. And in this case, the fault is 100%, the so-called lawyers "" gas spending ". This is not the first contract under which they shrank .... lis. But it did not stop the "gas drain" to pay Lard 430 in dividends to the so-called "shareholders".

[Vadim237]

And where are the shareholders - what are they to blame for?

[ultra]

But did I write about the fault of the shareholders? The size of dividends is determined by the board of directors, that is, the state in fact. And as I see it, our state is not up to problems with gas supply in this very state.

[Grandfather]

Quote: sergey32

I am losing weight with such contracts

all ... we are losing weight ...

[Vadim237]

You haven’t seen the contract, so it’s silly to talk about it to refer to “I read somewhere”.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: sergey32

For such a salary they need to tear.

If the gauntlets then yes, but if in Millerovsky, then they don’t get used to, tolerant all, completely.

[Yaro Polk]

It’s just our rams, all sorts of malacholny reparations that always pay, then tribaltam, then ukram, then Poland demands that they be freed from the fascists.
Remind someone, Russia was compensated for the Mistrals, or was it "brotherly" forgiven the frogs?)

[GKS 2111]

Quote: Yaro Polk

Remind someone, Russia was compensated for the Mistrals, or was it "brotherly" forgiven the frogs?)

"The final amount that France paid to Russia for the termination of the contract for the supply of two Mistral-class helicopter carriers was 950 million euros. This was reported on the official website of the French National Assembly."

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https://www.svoboda.org/a/27224008.html

But in general, I agree that our legal analysts all get a lot of money, I won’t know .. Almost all the courts lost, so 3 lard left Ukraine, how do they make the agreement? It used to be called simple and understandable wrecking. And the punishment was tough so you think next time ..

[kjhg]

Quote: GKS 2111

"The final amount that France paid to Russia for the termination of the contract for the supply of two Mistral-class helicopter carriers was 950 million euros

France HAS NOT PAYED ANYTHING! She only returned the amount that Russia paid her.

[GKS 2111]

Quote: kjhg

NOT PAYING ANYTHING!

Vladimir Putin and François Hollande agreed by phone on the final termination of the contract for the supply of two Mistrals to Russia.
After that, more than 1,1 billion euros were transferred to the accounts of one of the Russian banks. Moreover, the amount of compensation included not only the advance paid by Russia earlier, but also all the risks and expenses associated with the dismantling and unloading of Russian equipment from ships.

Quote: kjhg

She only returned the amount that Russia paid her.

Initially, France was ready to return to Russia 785 million euros - the money indicated in the acts of acceptance of work. However, Moscow insisted on a larger amount. It’s not just about the advance payment in the amount of 892,9 million euros, but also about the funds spent on training 400 crew members, the construction of infrastructure for basing helicopter carriers in Vladivostok and the creation of four prototypes of carrier-based Ka-52K helicopters - all together 1,163 billion euros.
"Gazprom" lawyers with effective managers learn and learn.

[kjhg]

I meant that Russia refused to demand a fine and a penalty for non-delivery of ships. Given the amount of the contract, the penalty would be huge.

Quote: GKS 2111

but also all the risks and expenses associated with the dismantling and unloading of Russian equipment from ships.

Quote: GKS 2111

but also about the funds spent on training 400 crew sailors, the construction of infrastructure for basing helicopter carriers in Vladivostok and the creation of four prototypes of deck-based Ka-52K helicopters

And so, yes, I agree, France reimbursed the costs of the production of Russian equipment, the training of sailors and more.
In the situation with the Mistrals, there is one positive point - this is the sale of Ka-52K helicopters to Egypt.

[Mityay65]

Quote: kjhg

I meant that Russia refused to demand a fine and a penalty for non-delivery of ships. Given the amount of the contract, the penalty would be huge.

You are always ahead of everyone with a bitter statement. When supplying military equipment, as a rule, arbitration courts do not award fines for refusal of supply, since it is not possible to calculate the amount of damage, as with civilian production equipment. For example, dump trucks. This also applies to equipment and raw materials for the production of weapons and ammunition.
This is a common practice of the courts, all lawyers know this, and in order not to pay the judiciary large legal expenses and not drag out the toffee for several years, as a rule, the lawyers of the parties solve the issue immediately amicably.
I had this in practice, the Germans refused to deliver compressors to Iran, citing sanctions, and compensated only the amount of the contract, without fines.

[Romka]

Well, where is the money? What did they spend it on? Specifically? And rejoice that Egypt has become the owner of good ships, well ... rejoice.

[kjhg]

Quote: Yaro Polk

Remind someone, Russia was compensated for the Mistrals, or was it "brotherly" forgiven the frogs?)

Russia generously refused all claims to France for the non-delivery of the Mistrals. France returned the money back. That's all.

[Vadim237]

No need to whistle.

[ultra]

Quote: Yaro Polk

These are just our rams.

They are not malacholny. They are on the drum, not out of pocket pay.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Thrifty

So what is there with a fine to the Swiss who disrupted the construction, and simply escaped? Should they pay something to Russia, or are we too proud to demand any more money from them? ??

you just didn’t understand correctly ... listen to the nightingale or the priestly cskabeevs ... they will explain to you what's what ....

[gost2012]

Most likely there will be no fines, this is force majeure, and the most that is genuine. In any case, in European courts of the Russian Federation it is impossible to recover exactly, as the Stockholm process has shown, according to the current trend, only the Russian Federation should always pay. But this is an opinion from the sofa)

[Grandfather]

How to complete the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline: Putin and Merkel meeting in the Kremlin

just do not look at the receipts .. (Putin is doing everything right) go to pay ... there’s nothing to live on? so no one asked you to live ... you have no plans, you are to blame ... went to Khufuji ... die as expected ... what? traditions .. yes ... Japanese ... after all, others have banned us ... we will live like a Japanese mother bequeathed ....

[krillon]

Against Russia, at the expense of Russia, on the ruins of Russia. "The Great Chessboard" Brzezinski.

[Non liberoid Russian]

you would read the contract first, then talked about fines

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Thrifty

So what is there with a fine to the Swiss who disrupted the construction, and simply escaped? Should they pay something to Russia, or are we too proud to demand any more money from them? ??

Well, right off the tongue. Judging by the cost of the project, then the fine should not be frail.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Thrifty

So what is there with a fine to the Swiss who disrupted the construction, and simply escaped? Should they pay something to Russia, or are we too proud to demand any more money from them? ??

With tongue removed. Judging by the cost of the project, the fine should not be frail.

[My_log_in]

It was like a statement by Gazprom about the payment of actually performed work and the absence of claims on both sides. I believe that force majeure was taken into account in the contract ...

[major147]

Quote: Thrifty

So what is there with a fine to the Swiss who disrupted the construction, and simply escaped?

possible US sanctions were provided for in the contract and referred to as force majeure.
In this case, if the contractor decides to interrupt the work, the conciliation commission determines the amount of work already done and its cost, and the customer pays the contractor the cost of this volume at the cost of the work (or the contractor returns part of the overpaid advances and payments for the work already done).
After that, the parties have no complaints against each other.
In our case, the cost of work already done by Saipem (which includes the share of Allseas) is about 2,5 billion euros. Approximately the same amount of Nord Stream-2 has already been paid to Italians as advances and for completed intermediate stages.
So we disagree “by zeros”. Except for reputational losses for contractors.
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5d28b97531878200adeab78f/kakuiu-neustoiku-zaplatiat-allseas-group-i--saipem-za-uhod-s-proekta-severnyi-potok2-tochnye-cifry-5e11c53addfef600b0938ffe

[mlad]

The agreement on the construction of the gas pipeline with the Swiss stipulated sanctions as force majeure, so they fled to zero

[Vadim237]

Give a link to the official representative of Gazprom, where he says that the sanctions were stipulated in the contract as force majeure circumstances - otherwise all of the above OBS.

[smart ass]

I think that in this situation it’s stupid to show something to anyone. It’s necessary to blame only yourself, it’s shameful that the country selling gas around the world does not have its own pipelayer, because what happened was to happen early, go late,

[ultra]

Quote: Clever man

it is shameful that a country selling gas around the world does not have its own pipelayer

There is no bolt or nut of domestic production, but you are talking about pipe layers.

[rotkiv04]

And who and when paid Russia? Mother Russia always paid, it is a pity that she gets such rulers

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Thrifty

So what is there with a fine to the Swiss who disrupted the construction, and simply escaped?

You Comrade Berezlivy are somehow careless about the topic of joint projects. The list of countries participating in the construction of SP-2 is much wider than Switzerland with its pipelayer and Russia, and therefore the terms of the contract were accepted collectively and whoever owes what to whom knows the devil. Although yes, since the contractor fled, he will most likely have to pay forfeit and fines. Question - Who? The resulting force majeure, in the form of US pressure, is not of a spontaneous nature and is quite deliberate, and therefore a claim may be filed for "lost profits" and compensation for penalties and fines, but to the United States. In short, the topic is muddy and not fast, and most likely it will be decided collectively by all the participants who have invested in the implementation of the SP-2 project, including Russia.

Quote: Thrifty

Should they pay something to Russia, or are we too proud to demand any more money from them? ??

Taking into account the collective "popandos", and, accordingly, the common interest, let this collective of investors hire international lawyers - economists, and let them scratch their heads over this issue. One thing pleases - we are not alone in this business and not only our money is involved in this project, and therefore there is a high degree of probability that something will be returned.

[Karaul73]

Ok, what's the fine? See that Russia is not forced to pay it. Well, for example, because the work turned out to be so "dumb". And they will pay. They will shout, shout and agree. They will also take credit for this.
Matching.

[businessv]

Quote: Thrifty

Should they pay something to Russia, or are we too proud to demand any more money from them? ??

I think the Swiss will try to legally formalize their actions, the main motive of which will be indicated force majeure.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Thrifty

So what is there with a fine to the Swiss who disrupted the construction, and simply escaped? Should they pay something to Russia, or are we too proud to demand any more money from them? ??

Dimon, you have to present this to the international arbitration, and not on the medveput website.

[Amin_vivec]

Plus. The French paid for the Mistral, so Russia only takes money from Africa and cubes.

[Muddy Seeing ORACLE]

Where the world is heading, the Swiss once independent neutral country, crap under American oppression ...

[riwas]

Links to force majeure will not help Allseas, because they fled ahead of time and could work quietly for another month.

[Mavrikiy]

I thought Merkel and Merkel turns out to be (Chapaev)

[Grandfather]

Quote: Mavrikiy

I thought Merkel and Merkel turns out to be (Chapaev)

Chapaeva ... (female)

[Saboteur Holuy]

This meeting will not solve anything at all ...

[Nikolay87]

Danegawariare found only to the bespont. You ride, decide everything there ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Saboteur Holuay

This meeting will not solve anything at all ...

They simply will not tell us about these solutions.

[Kuroneko]

How to complete the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline: Putin and Merkel meeting in the Kremlin

Something above.
Here's how to share buns - the question is completely different.
But here it’s easier for us and we have a head start, because The Germans were initially more than satisfied with the position of becoming the main gas hub for Europe, which they brutally needed to consolidate their position as the leader of an increasingly shaky European Union.

[Lelek]

Quote: Kuroneko

Something above.

One way or another, but Russia will complete the SP-2, at other times, but it will complete, despite the US sanctions. And everyone understands this, even the most stubborn enemies of the pipeline - the hyena Poland.

But we need to learn this sad lesson and have our own pipelayers, so as not to depend on frivolous "partners".

[Amateur]

For the first time in several years, German Chancellor Angela Merkel arrived on a visit to the Kremlin.

And in Sochi, she flew to GDP on for a bunch of flowers?

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Amateur

And in Sochi, she flew to the GDP for a bunch of flowers?

Well, there she could still have a break, that, they say, her leg would not set foot on Russian soil until Crimea was given up with rubbish, because the annexation of Crimea did not recognize, i.e. it was for her kakbe and not Russian land. And in Sochi, Ukraine also has interesting presentations, as well as in the Kuban.
And here - there is already nothing to cover. Well, except that the standard "my word chancellor royal, I wanted - I gave, I wanted - I took. "

In general, it’s great to see Germany’s money bags in circulation. For her (and I'm 146% sure of this) this visit is a personal and deep humiliation.

[Terenin]

Quote: Kuroneko

In general, it’s great to see Germany’s money bags in circulation.

Oh, count profits and losses, the Germans - no equal!
Under Hitler, they carried out arrests, imprisonment and even executions at the expense of the relatives of the accused, sending them invoices for payment.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Terenin

Oh, to count the profits and losses, the Germans - no equal!

But what about the Jews?

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Ingvar 72

But what about the Jews?

Well, the Nazis (by the way, not only them, but there was increased attention to them) at least disposed of them with profit - down to soap and skin.
Although it was all babble in comparison with what the Japanese did in their concentration camps. For example, the common and well-known statement that a nine-tenths of a living person is made up of water - perhaps it was precisely Japanese practice that was once ironically confirmed (yes, living people were evaporated. And then, for prisoners this was still far from the worst option) .

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Amateur

she flew to GDP for a bunch of flowers?

I looked in the photo for the article, something Merkel doesn’t look like, it’s like a grandmother, probably health problems, but she is 2 years younger than Putin. Putin against her background is younger and fit, although it will be older. I’ll immediately say about all kinds of plastics, I don’t know, and this is a personal matter for everyone.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Anatol Klim

I looked in the photo for the article, something Merkel doesn’t look like, it’s like a grandmother, probably health problems, but she is 2 years younger than Putin. Putin against her background is younger and fit, although it will be older.

Firstly, all people have their own biological age (I would not like to talk about myself, but I just don’t know any of these genetic freaks from my acquaintances, so ...). I was about to turn 38, but only a maximum of 6 years ago (that is, when I was 31) I still had to constantly carry my passport to shops so that the saleswomen could dispense alcohol to me without fear. I still look like a boy, in fact (maybe thanks to the "peaceful Soviet atom" - I'm really a bit of a mutant). This is the question of biological age.
As for Putin and Merkel, well, compare their lives and hobbies. Putin is essentially an athlete, judoka, hunter, KGB officer - which is also an initial parameter: they didn’t take anyone there, another Komsomol member, and just a beauty (c) Shurik's new adventuresand Merkel is sorry, she’s just a pretty shabby woman (well, I won’t believe that she had a passion for nudism in her youth without a periodic horizontal position ... and maybe the political take-off could not have done without it). Obviously he is not involved in sports, he is not watching himself. And if a person does not follow himself, then a lot of expensive extra-class cosmetologists will help him a little. Not bald - and thank them for that. = 3

[Grandfather]

Quote: Amateur

For the first time in several years, German Chancellor Angela Merkel arrived on a visit to the Kremlin.

And in Sochi, she flew to GDP on for a bunch of flowers?

options ....

[rocket757]

Poltava, polites, well, urgent matters!

[bald]

It has long been said when this wicked witch is her nine creatures, and what do you forget how she served before - a filthy, cunning - trash.

[32363]

Quote: bald

It has long been said when this wicked witch is her nine creatures, and what do you forget how she served before - a filthy, cunning - trash.

if about kazmirchak (merkel) then plus.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: bald

and you forgot how she served before - filthy, cunning - garbage.

I - I remember very well her virtually diplomatic rudeness, when she was still elected for the first term and personally told Putin that, they say, I’m not going to agree with you. And this is still the beginning of the XNUMXs, before the Crimea and South Ossetia.
Google erased those early phrases as best they could, but you can still find them if you wish.
And now - on the carpet to the Kremlin, yeah. And rhetoric has changed dramatically. = 3

[32363]

Quote: Kuroneko

Quote: bald

and you forgot how she served before - filthy, cunning - garbage.

I - I remember very well her virtually diplomatic rudeness, when she was still elected for the first term and personally told Putin that, they say, I’m not going to agree with you. And this is still the beginning of the XNUMXs, before the Crimea and South Ossetia.
Google erased those early phrases as best they could, but you can still find them if you wish.
And now - on the carpet to the Kremlin, yeah. And rhetoric has changed dramatically. = 3

with respect to Trump, this kasholka was also expressed before the election of the president .. then shut up .. one word is Polish.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: 32363

with respect to Trump, this kasholka was also expressed before being elected president.

ALL bedding miscalculated with Trump. They have a slow reaction and the ability of independent thinking, completely etched away by prolonged training. And Trump is a vindictive man (otherwise he would not have become a billionaire), and all those involved in one way or another felt it. Although with regard to Germany and the EU as a whole, he has "nothing personal, just business."

[Ross xnumx]

How to complete the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline: Putin and Merkel meeting in the Kremlin

I can’t believe that this very reason was the catalyst for the meeting. For the Russian Federation, SP-2 has lost its “relevance” with the signing of a gas contract with Ukraine.
For Germany, in her current situation, it is fraught to impede Washington’s will, and she doesn’t really need gas for herself ...
Therefore, the purpose of the meeting was completely different ... But we will not know this ...

[32363]

Quote: ROSS 42

How to complete the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline: Putin and Merkel meeting in the Kremlin

I can’t believe that this very reason was the catalyst for the meeting. For the Russian Federation, SP-2 has lost its “relevance” with the signing of a gas contract with Ukraine.
For Germany, in her current situation, it is fraught to impede Washington’s will, and she doesn’t really need gas for herself ...
Therefore, the purpose of the meeting was completely different ... But we will not know this ...

relevance for Russia has not fallen, according to German media they constantly say that Russia is building a joint venture at its own expense.

[carstorm 11]

this is not true. Five European energy companies - Gazprom's partners in the Nord Stream 2 project - have already invested almost a billion euros in its implementation, that is, almost the entire capital budget for the project in the amount of € 8 billion has already been invested. TASS was informed about this by the official representative of the company - the operator of the Nord Stream 2 AG project.

[carstorm 11]

never lost the word at all. there is a contract for pumping 40 yards of gas per year) for example, I will say that for example, in 2016 82 yards were pumped through them. this contract is only for pants support. for a transit of 82 yards we paid then 1.75 billion American money. consider for yourself how much their income has fallen. you read economic calculations and statements before writing something like that. Ukraine was practically forced by a crowd to sign an agreement under which a pipe that can pump 150 will work at a quarter of its capacity) we therefore apparently paid in court immediately to get rid of this transit with minimal supplies and not to return to this issue.

[Edik]

Quote: ROSS 42

I can’t believe that this very reason was the catalyst for the meeting. For the Russian Federation, SP-2 has lost its “relevance” with the signing of a gas contract with Ukraine.

Yuri Vasilievich, you are again raving! However, as always.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Edik

Yuri Vasilievich, you are again raving! However, as always.

Delirium is your usual state. You didn’t even bother to read the words:

For the Russian Federation, SP-2 has lost "relevance" with the signing of a gas contract with Ukraine.

Topicality - the importance, the significance of something for the present momentmodernity urgency
And do not pour me empty, non-binding phrases. I’m not a doctor of the Bryansk Perinatal Center, but you’re not a guarantor who can do something.
Merkel leaves in 2021. Her leadership in Germany is in its final phase. Most likely, her visit is a tribute to the relations between Russia and Germany and the opportunity to "settle" political problems face to face, having secured (in which case) the support of Russia ...
As for gas and the construction of SP-2, this issue has long been resolved, and there will be no return road. So, to come to Moscow for this purpose is to give an extra reason to eject bile ...

[kjhg]

Quote: ROSS 42

For the Russian Federation, SP-2 has lost its “relevance” with the signing of a gas contract with Ukraine.

But wait, the volume of gas pumped through Ukraine for the next year is 40 billion cubic meters. This is 25 billion less than this year. They were counting on something when they signed the contract. What if not for SP-2?

[Lord of the Sith]

We must say not "Western partners" but "temporary Western partners".

Because relying on them is not self-respecting.
And it was not in vain that Frau, like a chip on a horse, rode straight to the Kremlin.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

We must say not "Western partners" but "temporary Western partners".

The term "partners" on VO (and not only on VO) has long become a meme that means an enemy, not very successfully pretending to be a friend (while he is either afraid to attack, or still gets his own benefit ... mostly afraid). I think that in the Kremlin itself it has long been perceived in the same way.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And it was not in vain that Frau, like a chip on a horse, rode straight to the Kremlin.

But isn't any military agreement being prepared between Germany and Russia, such as a pact on ... Is such an option being considered? When did this NATO country (Turkey) "handle" with Russia? Maybe, looking at this symbiosis, both Macron and Frau Merkel nurtured some thoughts? You can’t be afraid of a dog all our lives (in our understanding of the USA), which has grown old and has started to lose its teeth ...
How much can one endure the overseas leadership style, which can lead not only to the zugunder, but also to the apocalypse ...

[Chingachguk]

It seems to me that the main message for Merkel will be the fact that "You can't cook porridge" with Ukraine, Naftogaz again ran to court, although it signed a peace agreement with Gazprom and canceled all claims. If this continues, then Russia has the right to nullify the treaty and empty the pipe to the Ukrainians. But then they will start stealing from this pipe wherever they can. This state has no more faith.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Scha ho ...... learn about it .... Abuse the old woman.

[bald]

you cons, you have to answer for your opinion? Is not that my opinion which, you, have denied. I said then (there was no northern stream to the spirit) Germany is smart, and the rest will catch up, and you neighing even now - I'm sorry stupid fools.

[Lena Petrova]

Quote: Terenin

buy cheaper and sell more expensive

In Syria, they switched to a new scheme, - without any buy, - take someone else's, and just sell. It’s more profitable.

[Terenin]

Quote: Lena Petrova

Quote: Terenin

buy cheaper and sell more expensive

In Syria, they switched to a new scheme, - without any buy, - take someone else's, and just sell. It’s more profitable.

Well, we're talking about the Law, and not about that du.rak to whom "the law is not written" ...

[petrol cutter]

"It's always better to talk to each other than to talk about each other."
Well, if grandmother thinks so, then this is GUD.
Although grandmother can count today one thing, and tomorrow another. Do not forget about it ....

[Gennady Fomkin]

drunk let you, Russia, take care of its completion somehow. And we, Germany, will wake up one morning, and here we have: both-na - the gas pipeline sticks out of the sea ... and so that we would be like: "Well, wow, a whole gas pipeline. How did it happen? Well, since it's already built, we'll enjoy, do not waste the good. "

[Gennady Fomkin]

show the length of how much is left What problems, Angela, provide the pipelayer, there’s something left there ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

The new season of the saga SP-2 begins briskly.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Ohhhhh, paradox, it turns out to live within our means - it is borrowing, stuffing the pockets of the next idlers, and then again borrowing ... aahhhh

[sergo1914]

That would be to marry them. Look good together.

[Sergej1972]

If you do not know, Frau Merkel is a married woman.)

[sergo1914]

Quote: Sergej1972

If you do not know, Frau Merkel is a married woman.)

This is problem?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: sergo1914

That would be to marry them. Look good together.

Not "Family" will be against

[Gennady Fomkin]

Kiev threatens European Union countries with higher gas and coal prices in the event transit stops through Ukraine. Experts have warned that the Ukrainian state may incur such a disaster on the gas issue that the Kiev leadership has not even dreamed of.

The situation on the gas issue in the Ukrainian state more and more resembles a patient in a psychological hospital. The diagnosis was made, the treatment was written out, but he rushes about and rushes about inside the room with foam at his mouth, not wanting to recover.

[Gennady Fomkin]

When you wake up in Russia, the first thought is: "We need to have breakfast." And in Germany: "We need to finish building SP2."
It's nice to wake up with the thought "Well, we've finished building SP2." The question is, who should wake up.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

It's nice to wake up with the thought "Well, we've finished building SP2." The question is, who should wake up.

Poland, assigned. Although this "hyena of Europe" can not be enlightened with anything, except for the next war on her land, thud-syudym. And the funniest thing is that she again, once again, tries to do everything possible to make it happen.
"Poland is not a country. Poland is a territory where European countries go to war with each other." Not I came up with, but damn true observation.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Both SP2 and later Turkish 3 and 4 threads will be completed. Any doubts?


Donny will be kissing his gums with Iran and LNG from Iran to Europe to drag)))
)
Only here, those who closely followed the entire gas revolution - should understand that a decade with the condition that the consumer sets the price is over! This is followed by a decade with the condition not included in the contracts, gas at the price of the supplier)))))

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: sergo1914

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Quote: sergo1914

That would be to marry them. Look good together.

Not "Family" will be against

That's what is strange. Do not plus or minus. Waiting for the decision of the Politburo. “They are wonderful, peasant children.” Specially launched. The experiment was a success. Sofa link ...

Sofa stsiklo is you about yourself Judging by your avatar, it reflects your sense of self and reflection I know your pluses and minuses to what place

[ultra]

I understand that Putin loves Germany, but why at public expense?

[CommanderDIVA]

Apparently, European pipeline investors pushed for Merkel’s visit to Moscow, as an option - to personally assure the GDP in support of our further work on laying the pipe, by the way, the Chancellor, I think, spoke for the first time at a press conference about the dangers of American sanctions in relation to Nord Stream 2. I didn’t go would Moscow, it is likely that the political party Merkel in the next election would lose financial support for those interested in the pipe of the oligarchs

[iouris]

Nord Stream 2 is seeds. New challenges lie ahead. Trump won't get off of you.

[1skuns1]

Ukrainians would not disdain to sue OLSIS ... and we-suckers

[Nasty]

What will she sing and will sing when she returns home? In Germany, dofigisa Amerov bases. We have none. And does anyone doubt who she will do a stand in front of?

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Switzerland in quotation marks the US National Bank. What claims to Switzerland.

[nikvic46]

The main thing for the German Chancellor was to hear -We will build the Nord Stream -2 ourselves.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Germany is increasingly plunged into crisis. And the grandmother of all Germany came to beg for a haza. In general, we don’t need cm2 right now. We will need it when gas from European storage facilities is sold

[serg v stock]

Our and German leaders save the business of their bourgeoisie, and Trump theirs. This is not the place for any standards, even double or triple. Why drive another pipe to Europe? Recently hato those that are, what has changed? Bullshit about Ukrainian transit, or pseudo competition with mattresses, is just a subspecies of the worst propaganda.

[A hundred]

Come on, old Merkel, at least do something for Germany before leaving .. Russia is not vindictive and seems to be with all my heart, but you started to forget history ..
By the way, Merkel in her youth led the movement of the GDR "Friendship with the USSR"
Remember your youth Merkel !!!!

[1skuns1]

Ukraine will drag us through the courts ... and the European court will always be on its side ... when we begin to snap back ... it’s a shame for the State

[Seld]

Quote: Clever man

I think that in this situation it’s stupid to show something to anyone. It’s necessary to blame only yourself, it’s shameful that the country selling gas around the world does not have its own pipelayer, because what happened was to happen early, go late,

so it is so .... But (from personal experience): such a ship is very expensive. To build / buy such a ship for the implementation of one - (or even !!!) two project for laying an underwater pipeline - is economically unprofitable. Pure water mathematics. Therefore, with all the normal other things being equal, companies in the world (like Gazprom) prefer to hire a contractor with a ship on the side.
That is, for example, Gazprom ordered and bought two ships for two projects, the projects were built by iiiiiii ...... And that’s all ....
By the way, do you know how much is the DAILY stay of a vessel in the port in the "standby" mode (in other words, when the ship is in the port, not doing a damn thing, but ready to go to sea for a feat)? There are a hundred oooooooo many items of expenditure ....