Lukashenko: Russia wants to sell oil to Belarus at prices higher than world prices

President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko spoke about why he could not agree on the purchase of Russian oil and what he now plans to do.

Recall that from January 1, 2020, Russian oil companies stopped supplying “black gold” to Belarus. The reason is simple - they did not agree on the price. Each side has its own “truth”: the authorities of the Republic of Belarus believe that they have the right to receive oil at low prices, and this situation is not beneficial for Russian oil companies.

Lukashenko offended by Russia

"Old Man" opened up at the ceremony of awarding the prize "For Spiritual Revival". According to Lukashenko, Russia offers Belarus oil at prices that are “above world prices,” and this situation does not suit him.

In a nutshell, why the president of Russia did not agree on oil. Because the Russian Federation wants us to buy oil from it at prices higher than world prices. Where is this seen ?! Therefore, I refused such oil. And he bluntly stated that if there would be no oil deliveries at the world price from Russia, we will find this oil elsewhere. What we do. And found

- said the Belarusian president.

The president of a neighboring state is convinced that his republic should receive oil at the same price at which Smolensk Oblast receives it. True, why is it not very clear: Smolensk region is a part of Russia, its region, and Belarus is a sovereign state.

Lukashenko also criticized the situation with the purchase of gas from Russia. He claims that our country sells gas to Minsk at prices "three times higher than those" at which blue fuel is supplied to Germany. Of course, this situation also does not suit him.

The Belarusian president does not get tired of emphasizing that even if his country refuses to buy gas and oil from Russia completely, no disaster will happen for Minsk. Actually, it’s not the first time that Lukashenko has made it clear to Moscow that he will easily reorient himself towards cooperation with the West if it is beneficial to him.

Where is Minsk going to buy oil?

So far, Alexander Lukashenko has instructed Belarusian officials to analyze the possibility of alternative ways of obtaining oil. One of the options under consideration is oil supplies by rail from the ports of the Baltic states. There oil will be supplied from the CIS countries and the Middle East. Do not mind the president of Belarus to give work and terminals in the ports of neighboring Ukraine.

Lukashenko claims that deliveries through Latvian ports will be beneficial for the Baltic countries as well, since they will be able to receive cheap oil products in return, which will be processed from the oil received at enterprises of the petrochemical industry in Belarus.

However, not everything is so bad with Russian companies. As early as January 4, RussNeft and Neftis, owned by well-known businessman Mikhail Gutseriev, agreed to supply oil to Belarus without raising the price. It is possible that some other Russian suppliers may follow this example.

In fact, the meaning of the statements of Alexander Lukashenko is clear. Belarus wants, while maintaining political independence and maneuvering between Russia and the West, to take advantage of the economic advantages of the Russian regions. But such a policy, apparently, is coming to an end: now Moscow has nothing to thank Minsk for: Belarus has not sided with Russia in a conflict with Ukraine, moreover, it has begun to play the role of a link in the supply chain of contraband sanctioned goods to Russia.

At the same time, Lukashenko is an amateur who publicly removes dirty linen from the cottage, constantly accusing Russia of unwillingness to share oil and gas with Belarus, pouring funds into the Belarusian economy, and providing Belarusian goods with a green light on the Russian market.

Comments

[knn54]

Insanity or provocation?

[Vend]

why did not agree with the president of Russia on oil

Because Russia is tired that the Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

[bessmertniy]

While Russia and Belarus are different states, there cannot be the same prices. And Old Man, it seems in an argument over oil goes too far. If the Republic of Belarus would offer oil cheaper, it would have long passed over to other suppliers.

[Shurik70]

Well, nonsense.
After all the claims of the Old Man, if someone REALLY offers him oil cheaper than Russian, the Old Man will sign the contract on the same day.
So the words that Russia offers a price higher than the world’s are nonsense.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Shurik70

So the words that Russia offers a price higher than the world’s are nonsense.

I will not argue, but for objectivity I would like to know the details of the negotiations. Including prices at which Russia supplies oil to Europe, and offers Belarus. And then there’s a lot of fog, and on our side the same.

[Astoria]

Do not confuse, Russia does not sell oil to Europe, oil traders sell oil. Russia receives part of the fee, part of the mineral extraction tax (mineral extraction tax, the ratio changes every year in favor of the mineral extraction tax).

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Astoria

Do not confuse, Russia does not sell oil to Europe, oil traders sell oil.

What difference does it make how oil trading works, I'm interested in prices, not the structure of the chain of intermediaries.

[Astoria]

the difference is big, because if there is no policy - and at the moment it is not there, take the price for brent, subtract the discount for Urals, get the result.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Astoria

big difference

Your position now is similar to the position of the UK Housing and Public Utilities, which broke the structure of the price for hot water in a receipt. Now they write not the price of water per cube, but the price of water separately, on a gigacalorie separately. It turns out such a dregs - you can’t figure it out with a calculator. And all in order to extort more, because it is not in vain that it is better to fish in muddy water.
The same thing now - there is a price including transport costs for Poland, for Bulgaria and Germany. And there is for Belarus. Weakly write them all in a column?

[Astoria]

According to Belstat, in January-October 2019, Belarus imported oil from Russia at an average price of $ 364 per ton. (At the same time, the average export price of own oil is $ 438 per ton.)

For example, Poland in the second quarter imported oil from Russia at 67 dollars per barrel (490 dollars per ton), in the first quarter it was 14% less (422)


364 and 490 (422) weak to compare? or the eyes really cuts?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Astoria

364 and 490 (422) weakly compare? or the eyes really cuts?

The Kommersant indicates slightly different figures - the difference is 50-60 dollars. per ton. This is the size of the export duty, no more. All EAC countries have signed a memorandum on duty-free trade, and in accordance with the agreement, Belarus has the RIGHT to purchase oil without export duty. Legally has. "Our" government wants to bypass the EAC treaty to whip up duties. Is it fair? No. If you do not want to trade without duties, exit the EAC agreement. And our managers want to eat the fish and sit on the count.
This is objective, without an emotional assessment of Old Man’s eccentricities.

[Astoria]

Since when did Igor become an adherent of Kommersant, or we read here, and here we wrap the fish.

I have given you Belstat’s information whether or not to believe it

Belarus HAS THE RIGHT to purchase oil without export duty.

only in your fantasies and in the fantasies of the collective farmer Lukashenko - for until 2025 Russia does not yet have a common oil and gas market in its tariff policy with regard to energy carriers.

Legally has.

- nonsense, if such a document existed, one could appeal to it, but it does not exist. One can appeal to the spirit of agreement, but not to the letter. And Lukashenko knows about this, hence all the howls.

Is it fair? No. Do not want to trade without duties - exit the EAC agreement

Medvedev pointed to Luka's exit back in 18

Look at things realistically, nobody signed up for life

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Astoria

I have given you Belstat’s information whether or not to believe it

I want a link directly to the Belstat website, and the exact location of the data on it.

Quote: Astoria

only in your fantasies and in the fantasies of the collective farmer Lukashenko

Read the EAC agreement.

Quote: Astoria

Medvedev pointed to Luka's exit back in 18

Medvedev can perform a gymnastic number, repeating the actions of cats and dogs to maintain hygiene.
Lukashenko, though a cunning bug, but follows the rules of the EAC.

Quote: Astoria

Look at things realistically, nobody signed up for life

Once again, read the EAC agreement. The rights and obligations of all EAC participants are registered there. Do not want to contain - with things to exit.

[Astoria]

I want a link directly to the Belstat website, and the exact location of the data on it.

- in this tone only to the spouse (if any) The socio-economic situation of the Republic of Belarus in January - November 2019 - foreign economic data, if your hands are not growing from a 5-point, you’ll figure it out

Read the EAC agreement.

- you can read to the holes


Customs Union Treaty
and the Common Economic Space
from 26 February 1999 of the year

Article 7

A single economic space is being formed step by step.

The duration of the stages, the totality of activities in each of the stages and their implementation will be determined by the Interstate Council.

The transition from stage to stage will be determined by the actual achievement of the specific goals of this Agreement and the fulfillment by the Parties of the obligations assumed under it.

The first stage aims to complete the formation of the Customs Union and a single customs territory.

The second stage involves the creation of a single economic space, including the formation of a common (internal) market for goods, services, capital and labor, the pursuit of a common economic policy and the creation of a unified infrastructure, the completion of harmonization of the legislation of the parties that ensures the functioning of the single economic space.

At the subsequent stages of economic cooperation, the Parties will seek to agree on the parameters of the main macroeconomic indicators.

HIGHER EURASIAN ECONOMIC COUNCIL - DECISION
dated December 6, 2018 N 23 ON THE FORMATION OF THE GENERAL MARKETS OF OIL AND OIL PRODUCTS OF THE EURASIAN ECONOMIC UNION -

1) stage I (2018 - 2021) - creation of an organizational and methodological basis for the formation of common markets for oil and oil products of the Union, harmonization of the legislation of the Member States in accordance with the action plan ("road map") to harmonize the legislation of the Member States in the oil sector;
2) stage II (2021 - 2024) - preparation and approval by the authorized bodies of member states of a draft international treaty on the formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union;
3) stage III (until January 1, 2025) - entry into force of an international treaty on the formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union.

Lukashenko, though a cunning bug, but follows the rules of the EAC. - lie

Various forms of subsidies (assistance) provided by the state party in the form of subsidies or from public resources that violate or threaten to violate competition by creating more favorable conditions for certain enterprises or producing certain types of goods are considered incompatible with the principles of the Common Economic Space to the extent in which they affect trade between the Parties - the agricultural export of the Republic of Belarus is subsidized by the state.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Astoria

The socio-economic situation of the Republic of Belarus in January - November 2019 - foreign economic data, if your hands are not growing from a 5-point, you’ll figure it out

There will be no shorter links. The excuse “seek for yourself” is truly eternal.

Quote: Astoria

3) stage III (until January 1, 2025) - the entry into force of an international treaty on the formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union.

Why did I post an article from the agreement on the Customs Union? I told you about the EAC treaty. Article 28, paragraph 3. And this contract is ALREADY ACTING!

Quote: Astoria

lie

More specifically, please. What clause of which article of the EAC treaty did Lukashenko violate?

[Astoria]

Quote: Astoria
The socio-economic situation of the Republic of Belarus in January - November 2019 - foreign economic data, if your hands are not growing from a 5-point, you’ll figure it out

In short, the link will not be. good The excuse "search for yourself" is truly eternal.

- on a tray used to receive, and at the very hand from the 5th point - as required

Quote: Astoria
3) stage III (until January 1, 2025) - the entry into force of an international treaty on the formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union.

Why did I post an article from the agreement on the Customs Union? belay I told you about the EAC agreement. fool Article 28, paragraph 3. AND THIS CONTRACT IS ALREADY ACTING!

Punch your forehead - up to 84 articles, there wasn’t enough strength to read, the collective farmer didn’t read too

Article 84

The formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union
and providing access to natural entities
monopolies in the field of transportation of oil and oil products

1. Member States are phasing the formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union in accordance with the annex N 23 to this Agreement subject to the transitional provisions provided for in paragraphs 6 and 7 of Article 104 of this Agreement.
2. Member States shall develop a concept and program for the formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union, approved by the Supreme Council.
3. Member States conclude an international agreement within the Union on the formation of common markets for oil and oil products, based on the provisions of the approved concept and program for the formation of common markets for oil and oil products of the Union.
4. Member States, within the limits of available technical capabilities, taking into account the agreed indicative (forecast) balance of Union oil, the agreed indicative (forecast) balance of oil products of the Union and based on civil law agreements of economic entities, ensure unhindered access of economic entities of other Member States to transportation systems petroleum and petroleum products located in the territories of the Member States, on the basis of common principles, conditions and rules provided for by the application N 23 to this Agreement. - [b] 3) stage III (until January 1, 2025) - the entry into force of the international treaty on the formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union. [/ b

] - the circle is closed, uncle

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Astoria

Punch your forehead - until 84 articles, there wasn’t enough strength to read, the collective farmer didn’t finish

As I understand it, you have already broken through yourself - article 84 talks about the formation of a ONE price market. Those. about a single price for the domestic market and the EAC market.
And now nobody is talking about this speech. Aunt.

[Astoria]

Do not pretend to be an uncle boots, you do not suit

Appendix 23
3. When forming common oil and oil product markets Member States proceed from the following basic principles:

1) non-application of quantitative restrictions and export customs duties in mutual trade (other duties, taxes and charges of equivalent value). The procedure for the payment of export customs duties on oil and petroleum products when exporting them outside the customs territory of the Union is determined by separate, including bilateral agreements of the Member States;

3) stage III (until January 1, 2025) - the entry into force of an international treaty on the formation of common markets for oil and petroleum products of the Union.


Is it available or should I spell it out?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Astoria

Is it available or should I spell it out?

You are again in the wrong steppe, aunt. I'm not talking about the principles of the future formation of a common market, I'm talking about the current principles of the EAC domestic market.

Article 28, paragraph 3. In the framework of the functioning of the domestic market in the mutual trade in goods, Member States do not apply import and export customs duties (other duties, taxes and charges having equivalent effect), non-tariff regulation measures, special protective, antidumping and countervailing measures, with the exception of cases provided for by this Agreement.

This is the current article of the agreement, and it does not side with the thesis on the formation of a common price market in the future.
I consider the further dialogue pointless, because you confuse the theses, and I can’t explain this to you.

[Astoria]

Chop yourself on the nose, there is Article 28 and eat. 84. Energy has been removed from the brackets of the domestic market. Neither you, nor the Belarusian collective farm want to understand the signed document, only snot and howls about betrayal.

[Astoria]

More specifically, please. What clause of which article of the EAC treaty did Lukashenko violate?

12. Measures that do not have a distorting effect on trade, implemented in the interests of producers of agricultural goods (hereinafter - producers), must meet the following basic criteria:
...
2) the result of support should not be the maintenance of producer prices.

simple sugar example -

31/12/2019 FINANCE.TUT.BY

Since October 1, 2019, due to the appearance of Russian sugar on sale, which was often cheaper than Belarusian sugar, in our country for 90 days a marginal minimum retail price for this product was introduced - 1,5 rubles. The price limit is valid until December 31, inclusive - both for imported and produced sugar in our country. The authorities decided in 2020 to continue to regulate its value.

Before the introduction of state regulation on October 1 of this year, Belarusian sugar cost between 1,43-1,49 rubles per kilogram, and Russian sugar - from 1,29 rubles. At the same time, some retailers organized shares during which sugar from the Russian Federation could be bought even cheaper. After the introduction of state regulation, Belarusian sugar was sold from 1,5 to 1,55 rubles, and Russian sugar was sold mainly at a minimum price of 1,5 rubles. But then Russian sugar began to disappear from the market. Now, as before, it is almost not on store shelves.
Read more: https://finance.tut.by/news667180.html

[Ingvar 72]

Even if we take into account the indicators of Belstat oil prices (364 for Belarus, and 434 for the rest of Europe), the size of the "discount" is just the export duty, the size of which was published by the Ministry of Finance -

The export duty on oil in Russia will decrease from January 1, 2020, according to the Ministry of Finance, by $ 13,3 and will amount to $ 77,2 per ton, the ministry said. Currently, the export duty on oil is $ 90,5 per ton.

[Astoria]

Even if we take into account the indicators of Belstat oil prices (364 for Belarus, and 434 for the rest of Europe), the size of the "discount" is just the export duty, the size of which was published by the Ministry of Finance -
The export duty on oil in Russia will drop from January 1, 2020, according to the Ministry of Finance, by $ 13,3 and will amount to $ 77,2 per ton, the ministry said. Currently, the export duty on oil is $ 90,5 per ton.

You wanted to see the difference between prices - they showed you it. The collective farm bike that the Russian Federation sells RB oil at prices higher than world prices does not channel.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Astoria

The collective farm bike that the Russian Federation sells RB oil at prices higher than world prices does not channel.

Looking from which side to look. Market price 434 dollars \ t. - $ 90 export duty = 344 dollars \ t. It is at this price that Belarus should receive oil under an EAC agreement.

Quote: Astoria

simple sugar example

Here you are partially right. Partially why - entering the minimum retail price is a two-edged sword - it is more profitable for Belarusian retailers to buy Russian sugar, because when it is sold, they make big profits.

[Astoria]

Looking from which side to look. Market price 434 dollars \ t. - $ 90 export duty = 344 dollars \ t. It is at this price that Belarus should receive oil under an EAC agreement.

Yes it should not, until 25 years.

[brat07]

Quote: Astoria

Do not confuse, Russia does not sell oil to Europe, oil traders sell oil. Russia receives part of the fee, part of the mineral extraction tax (mineral extraction tax, the ratio changes every year in favor of the mineral extraction tax).

I completely agree with you.
But someone does not agree with you.
This happens in.

[polar fox]

Quote: Shurik70

So the words that Russia offers a price higher than the world’s are nonsense.

og ... nonsense. inside the country, gas is more expensive than China supplies ... like electricity ... like timber and rolled metal ... what's wrong?

[anykin]

Quote: polar fox

what's wrong?

Where did Belarus find cheaper than Russian?

[Victor N]

Do you know the differences between wholesale and retail? Teach! Compare the selling price of gas to Belarus and the price of gas for small consumers. And the difference is because the creation and maintenance of distribution networks from gas pipelines to end consumers is very expensive.

[Evdokim]

Quote: Victor N

Do you know the differences between wholesale and retail? Teach! Compare the selling price of gas to Belarus and the price of gas for small consumers. And the difference is because the creation and maintenance of distribution networks from gas pipelines to end consumers is very expensive.

Moreover, if he will pay taxes and excise taxes and other to the budget of the Russian Federation, then let it be cheaper for him.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Shurik70

Well, nonsense.
After all the claims of the Old Man, if someone REALLY offers him oil cheaper than Russian, the Old Man will sign the contract on the same day.
So the words that Russia offers a price higher than the world’s are nonsense.

No, not nonsense, pure truth, but not truth, here dad manipulates information not obvious to the layman, for example, "world prices" he indicates on "world exchanges", and there the cost does not include the cost of delivery to Belarus, similar garbage with gas there he does not take into account the cost of infrastructure, that is, first Gazprom and / or its satellites build / update the GTS, and then they put that money into the local small wholesale price of gas, and he looks at the price of large wholesale supplies to the EU through Germany.

[Olezhek]

No, not nonsense, pure truth, but not truth, then the Old Man manipulates information that is not obvious to the average man,

He does it all the time.
In the sense of manipulates
It's time to understand that Lukashenko is not a friend

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bessmertniy

While Russia and Belarus are different states, there cannot be the same prices.

Thus, we can say that the EAEU is a fiction. Since Belarus is the only member of the EAEU that has not joined the WTO, we can directly say that the Old Man is not washed, so they are pushing him into this trash.

[Victor N]

By selling natural resources within the country, the supplier, with the consent of the owner, can refuse to levy natural rent, and if it is outside the country, then this will already be a crime. Marx wrote about natural rent in sufficient detail. Learn economic theory.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Victor N

, and if outside the country, then this will be a crime

I write that the EAEU is a fiction, so tell all this to their organizers.

[My doctor]

Quote: bessmertniy

If RB would offer oil cheaper,

That's right, but it seems to me there are two BUT. The first oil in terms of severity and composition of impurities varies, and the Belarusian oil refineries are specialized in the processing of raw materials from Russia. Modernization of the refinery for deeper processing of raw materials has led to even more narrow specialization. The second is the pipeline going from Russia through Belarus, transportation through which is more profitable than on tankers with subsequent transfer to railway transport.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Wend

that Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

and on one brotherly neck

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Wend

why did not agree with the president of Russia on oil

Because Russia is tired that the Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

don't confuse Russia with Gazprom ... these are two pockets ....

[Vend]

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Wend

why did not agree with the president of Russia on oil

Because Russia is tired that the Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

don't confuse Russia with Gazprom ... these are two pockets ....

Gazprom pays taxes to the treasury of Russia. The more you earn, the more you pay.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Wend

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Wend

why did not agree with the president of Russia on oil

Because Russia is tired that the Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

don't confuse Russia with Gazprom ... these are two pockets ....

Gazprom pays taxes to the treasury of Russia. The more you earn, the more you pay.

Quote: Wend

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Wend

why did not agree with the president of Russia on oil

Because Russia is tired that the Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

don't confuse Russia with Gazprom ... these are two pockets ....

Gazprom pays taxes to the treasury of Russia. The more you earn, the more you pay.

you are a holy man ... naive, .. and ... or a provocateur.

[St Petrov]

wassat you are a holy man ... yes naive, .. and ... or a provocateur.

Refute the claim that Gazprom (Rosneft, Lukoil and others) is filling the budget. Just do not pour water. In fact. And without smiles please and without snot and without water. though maybe this time I’ll read something sensible from you. but I think vryatli.

You are an oppositionist) but there are no other oppositionists (of a different quality). Therefore, you will not refute these lines, you will only be able to fade something slurred

And I can wash you with the figure that Gazprom pays in the form of taxes. But I won’t. It's like throwing beads

[bar]

Refute the claim that Gazprom (Rosneft, Lukoil and others) is filling the budget.

Why deny. Any PPI-shnik and "self-employed" fills the budget. So what?

[anykin]

Quote: bar

Why refute. Any PPI-shnik and "self-employed" fills the budget.

Quote: Aerodrome

wassat you are a holy man ... yes naive, .. and ... or a provocateur.

So now refute each other))

[Victor N]

If EVERYONE who is supposed to pay taxes and fees carefully, Russia could build aircraft carriers in batches.

[Den717]

Tell me, dear comrade, how many people and self-employed are needed to pay about 3 trillion rubles a year, salaries of 27000 workers?

[Aerodrome]

[quote = c-t Petrov] You're an oppositionist [/ quote]
[quote = c-t Petrov] And I can wash you with a digit [/ quote]
[quote = с-t Petrov]. It's like throwing beads [/ quote yeah ... I'm not going to throw beads either ... especially since I've known your account for a long time, and I know what you are like ... - a terry kremlebot. adyes swords in the Kremlin his caviar ....

[St Petrov]

adyes swords in the Kremlin his caviar ....

join a coalition with Georgians, Ukrainians and the Baltic states. so it will be easier for you to stagger the Kremlin - and with them - make your eggs in the ecstasy of fighting the Kremlin.

True, your wrestling in the cam has been for 20 years, but nothing. The Kremlin was not so worried about "enemies". Although this is too proud a title for you)

[Snarkxnumx]

"I can wash you off with the figure that Gazprom pays in taxes. But I won't. It's like throwing beads."
Mind us a figure. Do you audit oil and gas companies? Do you know how much they owe, but how much they pay? Me and he and you pay taxes. Fair rent for subsoil use ??? Compare with Norway, how much gas the population of Qatar receives, Saudis, etc. Balabol Kremlin Kremlin.

[St Petrov]

Compare with Norway, how much gas the population of Qatar receives, Saudis, etc.

this is the level of VO 2020 with a new audience. I probably won’t disturb your limited and absent consciousness. I will not compare with Norway and Saudi Arabia, okay? and with Qatar too. And then this is a complete degradation

Suddenly you will ever grow wiser and then hit yourself on the head with your hand. And then I’ll try to compare now, and you’ll be offended - from my conclusions and arguments

Balabol Kremlin Kremlin.

would you read about yourself now, but with my admins everything isn’t very good here. But I think according to the level of your logic - it’s not easy for you anyway.

And hi to you, limited, hello too

[Snarkxnumx]

"What if you ever get smarter and then hit yourself on the head with your hand"
He promised to wash with a number. Yes, Balobol for sure .. Friday))) Does the hand even help?

[St Petrov]

He promised to wash with a number.

are you disabled Can’t you earn how much in 2018 Gazprom paid taxes in a search engine?

Learned to compare Russia with Qatar and Saudi Arabia, but could not use the search engine?

Well, nothing, you will become a marshal when - I think you will master science

[Snarkxnumx]

Apparently the beads have gone. Close, you about the fact that there (Qatar and Sudan Arabia) and even in Norway, the population receives a huge income from subsoil use.

[Andrey VOV]

You that a naive person really thinks that the entire population of Qatar, the emirates, Arabia receives income from the sale of oil and gas ????? after the crises in Norway, everything has been wrong for a long time with the distribution of income from oil and gas .. so no need here carry all kinds of nonsense

[Snarkxnumx]

The naive man
Deductions from the oil profits earned are received on the personal account of every Norwegian. To date, these contributions amount to more than 100 000 dollars for every Norwegian. For each child, at birth, a bank account is opened, which receives at least 3 thousand dollars of income from income tax.

[Loess]

Quote: Snark1876

Today, these contributions amount to more than $ 100 for every Norwegian.

What is characteristic ... The network shows these lines over and over again. But exclusively in someone's accusatory comments. And only verbatim. Shoveled two dozen links - the same word for word and exclusively within the commentary. Not that I didn’t find such a document, but even no article with these figures. But the oldest such comment is dated 2011. I went the other way. I began to read reviews of young mothers living in Norway about all kinds of payments and benefits for a child. You probably already guess the result? Eight stories from 2012 to 2016 - and not a single mention of 100 dollars. Maybe I was not looking correctly?

[Olezhek]

I went the other way. I began to read reviews of young mothers living in Norway about all kinds of payments and benefits for a child. You probably already guess the result? Eight stories from 2012 to 2016 - and not a single mention of 100 dollars. Maybe I was not looking correctly?

Wicked you, destroyed such a dream

[sleeve]

Excuse me, who are you? You are from Russia?

[Vend]

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Wend

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Wend

why did not agree with the president of Russia on oil

Because Russia is tired that the Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

don't confuse Russia with Gazprom ... these are two pockets ....

Gazprom pays taxes to the treasury of Russia. The more you earn, the more you pay.

Quote: Wend

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Wend

why did not agree with the president of Russia on oil

Because Russia is tired that the Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

don't confuse Russia with Gazprom ... these are two pockets ....

Gazprom pays taxes to the treasury of Russia. The more you earn, the more you pay.

you are a holy man ... naive, .. and ... or a provocateur.

Everything is much simpler. I'm realist. Do you want to know how much taxes Gazprom paid google at least

[St Petrov]

Do you want to know how much taxes Gazprom paid google at least

he does not want. infa 100%. o - an oppositionist. For him, Gazprom is the same enemy as for the Poles)

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Wend

Everything is much simpler. I'm realist. Do you want to know how much taxes Gazprom paid google at least

happy for you ... you are just a decent, law-abiding citizen.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Wend

Gazprom pays taxes to the treasury of Russia. The more you earn, the more you pay.

And what's the difference, where does the money go to the budget, from taxes, or from duties?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Wend

why did not agree with the president of Russia on oil

Because Russia is tired that the Old Man is trying to sit on six chairs

don't confuse Russia with Gazprom ... these are two pockets ....

so many "Gazprom's on the branch" ... honestly did not expect ....

[St Petrov]

so many "Gazprom's on the branch" ... honestly did not expect ....

what a funny character you are. Tell me what does this statement mean?
Are the shareholders here? Kremleboty? Who's stopping you from rinsing Gazprom?)

PS how to stop, so that all this is carried to the masses?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: s-t Petrov

what a funny character you are.

not "petrov" ... a funny character "it's you ... you are akin to" Mikhan, only a little, a couple of classes smarter.

[St Petrov]

so will you answer the question? Who are Gazprom's?

[Uncle Izya]

Well, Russia feeds the Old Man and not with the population works and works with the population of Poland

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Uncle Izya

Well, Russia feeds the Old Man and not with the population works and works with the population of Poland

it’s unpleasant to admit ... but there is one.

[Uncle Izya]

The softness of Russia and the Old Man is already looking west

[antivirus]

if there is no oil supply at world prices from Russia, we will find this oil elsewhere. What we do. And found


- Luka is doing everything right - all the money in his house.
and in 20 years, 6 (?) billion dollars of preferences is 20 thousand km of roads (1 ton km per year) - like in China.

[Uncle Izya]

Yeah I built ice clubs and Belarusian hockey is getting worse every year

[antivirus]

I'm talking about roads in the Russian Federation

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Uncle Izya

Yeah I built ice clubs and Belarusian hockey is getting worse every year

Remember about our mega-super-duper stadiums, and about the success of our football.

[Victor N]

Thieves, bandits, bribe takers - are also pulling money into their home: does this justify them?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Wend

Because Russia

In Russia, the elites do not care at all ..... so the last allies profukayem

[Victor N]

Who is this ally - Lukashenko ?! Would you take such a company? After all, he will constantly accept and complain about poverty forever

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Victor N

Who is this ally - Lukashenko ?!

Belarusians!

[Astoria]

Belarusians!

Well, then say to the end - our allies are Belarusian pensioners the youth parted, some in the Russian Federation, some in the Baltic states, some in Poland

[GenNick]

And yours, yours, all of Russia are sitting ...

[GenNick]

And yours, yours, all of Russia are sitting ...

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: knn54

Insanity or provocation?

Not really. Rygorych, as always, did not tell the truth to the end.
The price of Russian oil has now turned out to be higher than exchange prices in London for supplies to Belarus due to a tax maneuver.
But if Belarus buys oil on the London stock exchange, then transportation could double the final price. According to Belneftekhim, the price of oil for the country's refineries has been rising in price in recent years: in 2015-2018. Belarusian refineries operated under the conditions of the previous stage of the tax maneuver. So, if in 2014 oil for Belarusian producers cost about 50% of the world price, today it already exceeds 100%.
More details: https://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/130977

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Anatol Klim

More details: https://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/130977

yes ... "true" - only for foreigners .... no, I did not make a reservation.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Anatol Klim

More details: https://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/130977

yes ... "true" - only for foreigners .... no, I did not make a reservation.

My quote is taken from the Internet project of the Russia 24 TV channel http://www.vestifinance.ru, and here are foreigners, moreover, it is true that now the price of oil on the London exchange is indeed less than the price of Russian oil for Belarus, but Lukashenko is not said how much the delivery of non-Russian oil would cost Belarus, he did not say that it was also true. So less emotion, read carefully and strain your head.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Anatol Klim

My quote is taken from the Internet project of the TV channel "Russia 24"

and therefore: no doubt is put .... the mouthpiece of truth ....

[St Petrov]

and therefore: no doubt is put .... the mouthpiece of truth ..

not RBC and not even Rain (

[Aerodrome]

Quote: c-Petrov

and therefore: no doubt is put .... the mouthpiece of truth ..

not RBC and not even Rain (

of course "24-lie no less!

[Astoria]

Keep finances smacking bullshit -

The price of Russian oil has now turned out to be higher than exchange prices in London for supplies to Belarus due to a tax maneuver.
But if Belarus buys oil on the London stock exchange, then transportation could double the final price. According to Belneftekhim, the price of oil for the country's refineries has been rising in price in recent years: in 2015-2018. Belarusian refineries operated under the conditions of the previous stage of the tax maneuver. So, if in 2014 oil for Belarusian producers cost about 50% of the world price, today it already exceeds 100%.
More details: https://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/130977

Belneftekhim website, news section, 03/01/2020

About oil supplies.
We continue the negotiation process with Russian partners regarding the conclusion of contracts for the supply of oil to domestic refineries. However, no contracts are currently signed.

The current situation is not the best stage in economic cooperation with Russian partners. So, taking into account the implementation of the next stage of the tax maneuver in the Russian Federation, the price of “cheap duty-free Russian oil” Today it makes up 83 percent of the world. Of course, given the compensation that the Russian Federation provides its refineries, this negatively affects the disparity in prices on the domestic markets of Russia and Belarus.

It should be noted that at present, domestic refineries are operating normally. The measures taken to optimize the loading of production capacities allowed to increase the accumulation of oil resources for its subsequent processing. The available fuel reserves, as well as the operating mode of domestic refineries, can fully satisfy the needs of the domestic market for all types of motor fuel and other petroleum products.

[Alexander Suvorov]

knn54 (Nikolai)
Insanity or provocation?

Rather, another exacerbation. The whole "Belarusian miracle" is a soap bubble that exists only due to low prices for oil and gas to keep Lukashenka's pants on.
Apparently the Kremlin is really tired of feeding the Belarusian regime, with its unpredictable father’s. What will happen next we will see. It is a pity that as a result of these skirmishes ordinary residents of Belarus will suffer. As we say, the pans are fighting, and at the lackeys forelocks crack.
On the other hand, how much can you endure Lukashenko’s antics, I’ll give ... I won’t give ... I will, but not for you ... Have you already decided on Russia or not. If not, then Lukashenko will not last long, only the question is, where will he run the sick? Rostov tea is not rubber.

[Professor]

Quote: knn54

Insanity or provocation?

But in fact, at what prices does Moscow sell gas and oil to Minsk?

[Aerodrome]

Dad ... this is not for us ... but for "Rosneft-Gazprom" ... they are pulling the thread to China at their own expense, (silusibiri). (I don't even want to talk about the rest) ... (China did not insist too much) because China said you need to, you just pull ... and babosiks are needed ... that's why they "scratch on the bottom of the barrel", that's why the prices are the same for fuel inside. there, at our own expense, ... and we pay with you. just ask what the "profit" of "Gazprom" goes to - "pipes" ...

[Doctor]

But in fact, at what prices does Moscow sell gas and oil to Minsk?

127 dollars per 1000 cubic meters.
To Germany - 172.
World average - 210.

[Pushkar]

Quote: Arzt

But in fact, at what prices does Moscow sell gas and oil to Minsk?

127 dollars per 1000 cubic meters.
To Germany - 172.
World average - 210.

Gazprom is going to raise the price of Minsk to 141,1 dollars per 1000 cubic meters. The average price of gas exports in 2019 is $ 240-250 per 1000 cubic meters. So what does Rygoritch want?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Pushkar

the price of gas exports in 2019 is $ 240-250 per 1000 cubic meters

Commentary on Gazprom's IFRS Report.

In the third quarter, the average price per thousand cubic meters, taking into account excise tax and customs duties, amounted to $ 169,8. A year ago, during the same period, it exceeded $ 250, that is, a drop in annual terms amounted to 32 percent.

Those. according to Gazprom, the price was 250 in 2018. As I said to one "specialist", Germany always has a gas price lower than the average European one. I don't know why, but it is.
Accordingly, the gas discount for Belarus is less than 20%.
In addition, the price of gas supplies to Ukraine remains a mystery, and according to the fog that Gazprom lets the gas price for Ukraine, it can be assumed that the price is not higher than for Belarus.
Against the background of all this, claims against Belarus look the same as statements by Gazprom top-managers about the need to raise the price in the domestic market. That is ridiculous.

[Olezhek]

In addition, the price of gas supplies to Ukraine remains a mystery, and according to the fog that Gazprom lets the gas price for Ukraine, it can be assumed that the price is not higher than for Belarus.

Dear Belarusian friend
Russia or Gazprom are not required to report to you
RB - a separate, unfriendly state of Russia
Good luck making money

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Olezhek

Dear Belarusian friend

Wake up Olezhok, the New Year holidays are over, and it's time to get out of the binge. As I wrote to you, I was born and live in Russia, and have never been to Belarus.

[Fan-fan]

.

But in fact, at what prices does Moscow sell gas and oil to Minsk?

I think this is a terrible secret of the Kremlin. This time.

Because the Russian Federation wants us to buy oil from it at prices higher than world prices.

- this is a quote from the father

The president of a neighboring state is convinced that his republic should receive oil at the same price at which it receives the Smolensk region

These are quotes from the article. Well, the question is, where did the author see that the Old Man was asking for the price of Smolensk? Old Man asks for a price not higher than the world - it is clearly written, why invent Smolensk. I don’t understand something, doesn’t anyone see this in the article?

[Flooding]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Well, the question is, where did the author see that the Old Man was asking for the price of Smolensk? Old Man asks for a price not higher than the world - it is clearly written, why invent Smolensk.

About Smolensk is by no means an invention.
The author simply used his words spoken a month or two earlier.
Old Man says a lot. First for Smolensk, then for peace.
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2019/12/07/lukashenko-hochet-pokupat-rossiyskie-neft-i-gaz-po-vnutrirossiyskim-cenam

[Astoria]

The collective farmer asks for a price at the border - this is the price of the Smolensk region.

[Astoria]

I think this is a terrible secret of the Kremlin. This time.

- this is not a secret
According to Belstat, in January-October 2019, Belarus imported oil from Russia at an average price of $ 364 per ton. (At the same time, the average export price of own oil is $ 438 per ton.)

[Astoria]

As of 2018, the Republic of Belarus had four beneficial oil agreements and schemes in relations with Russia.

1. Duty-free deliveries of 18 million tons of Russian oil. Thanks to them, Belarus saved more than $ 2 billion in 2018 and about $ 1,7 billion in the past.

2. The scheme of customs clearance of another 6 million tons of oil. The benefit for Belarus in 2018 was about $ 850 million, in 2019 - about $ 500 million.

3. Export customs duties on crude oil and petroleum products. They were bargained by Minsk in 2014 in exchange for the signing and ratification of a treaty on the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU). Their amounts in 2018-2019 amounted to about $ 1 billion annually.

4. Re-export of preferential deliveries of Russian fuel (diesel, etc.). He allowed Belarus to save about $ 2018 million in 200.

The latter scheme was covered by a bilateral protocol concluded in October 2018. In fact, this happened in exchange for a loan from Minsk from the Eurasian Fund for Stabilization and Development (EFSD). The sixth tranche of the EFSD in the amount of $ 200 million was transferred to Belarus just two days after the signing of the corresponding agreement with Russia. The seventh tranche of the EFSD in the same amount was never provided to Belarus.

The customs clearance scheme for 6 million tons of Russian oil (export duties from this amount were also credited to the Belarusian budget) was valid in 2017–2019, but was not extended for the current year. These volumes of oil potentially go into the first category of our list in the form of an increase in duty-free supplies of Russian oil to Belarusian refineries up to 24 million tons instead of 18 million tons, as was the case in 2016–2019.

That is, this year instead of enriching it without exporting a finger with export duties of 6 million tons of oil, which simply went through Belarus, these volumes will have to be delivered to refineries, refined and further sold in the foreign markets.

At the same time, closing the customs clearance scheme does not mean that all 500 million dollars from it will be lost, but due to the described changes, part of the amount may be lost.

Finally, the main thing: since 2019, the benefit associated with the procurement of Russian oil has been declining, since its price is increasing annually due to a decrease in the Minsk export duty that is not paid.

In 2018, the average annual export duty amounted to $ 128 per ton (that is, the Minsk bonus for each ton of Russian oil purchased minus a premium to suppliers was approximately the same), in 2019 - less than $ 100, and since January 2020 it has been set at 77,2 , XNUMX dollars.

Russian oil taxation reform involves reducing the export duty on oil to zero by 2025. Minsk expects to receive compensation from Russia precisely for these falling bonuses, although Moscow in return demands to sacrifice tax sovereignty.

Thus, from 2018 to the present day, one of the four profitable oil cooperation schemes has been completely closed, and the other two have become less profitable for Belarus.

By inf. naviny.by

[Andrey VOV]

At what price does Israel buy gas from Egypt and oil .. oil from anyone, from Egypt it’s like gas

[Professor]

Quote: Andrey VOV

At what price does Israel buy gas from Egypt and oil .. oil from anyone, from Egypt it’s like gas

Israel does not buy gas from Egypt, but sells to Egypt.

[Olezhek]

Israel does not buy gas from Egypt, but sells to Egypt.

Egyptian gas
joke!

[siberalt]

Last year, for the kisses of the Belarusian dad, Russia gave the "allies" who did not want to recognize the Crimea as a Russian one, gave oil discounts in the amount of 49 billion American rubles. And its pensioners in some regions have added to their pensions as much as 1 ruble 10 kopecks from January 1 this year.

[Berkut752]

Overdone ...................................

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: siberalt

not wanting to recognize Crimea as Russian, gave oil discounts in the amount of 49 billion US dollars.

China did not recognize Crimea, but the price of gas in the Power of Siberia is VERY carefully concealed. And I do not think that it is higher than for Belarus.

[Olezhek]

China did not recognize Crimea, but the price of gas in the Power of Siberia is VERY carefully concealed.

Once again - Russia is not obliged to report on its contracts to Minsk
Good luck

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Olezhek

Once again - Russia is not obliged to report on its contracts to Minsk
Good luck

And who is asking for a report?

[Bar2]

if Putin sells oil to Belarus above the world’s, then this is already an open feud with his only ally. This government has led Russia into a dead end.
Whose will the Putin government does? Obviously not Russian people.

[anykin]

Quote: Bar2

if

Yes "WOULD" interfere.

[Cheerock]

For starters, let Old Man get a market offer from Vitol, for example, the Belarusian railway is guarded for the supply of oil on DAP terms. transition, will add on its import duty and then we will compare prices - they are higher than world prices or lower. If higher - let them be lucky from the Baltic, who is stopping him. That's just so far all his statements on this issue ended in nothing, because - pure populism.

[kapitan92]

Quote: knn54

Insanity or provocation?

Freebie love. Russia itself showed "weakness" a dozen years ago, actually dating the economy of the "union state" and is now reaping the fruits of its "spineless policy" towards Belarus.
What ended flirting with the outskirts there!
In this case, I can only express my opinion and attitude to what is happening. I generally do not understand the meaning of the "union state" when Lukashenka is pursuing a policy of "prostitution". At the expense of the budgets, a huge apparatus of officials is maintained, the "ally" needs only economic preferences and cheap loans, the situation is the same in foreign policy. Why all these games, who do we want to cheat? Lukashenka will never get off the "throne" and the younger son is growing up.
It is necessary to stop these "games", to switch to world prices for hydrocarbons and energy resources, to more rigidly, on the part of the Russian Federation, tie preferences to the foreign policy course pursued by Lukashenko.
We have two brigades of Belarusians in our "office", I have never heard from them positive comments about my president, perhaps this is a private opinion, but it exists.
I’m not going to identify Lukashenko with all the people of the Republic of Belarus, in any case I have excellent and adequate relations with my friends and colleagues from the Republic of Belarus.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: kapitan92

It is necessary to stop these "games", to switch to world prices for hydrocarbons and energy resources, more strictly,

Og. We have not yet passed the world prices to the end, and in some places the bourgeoisie does not include heating in the shops, expensive. Do we have California?

[kapitan92]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: kapitan92

It is necessary to stop these "games", to switch to world prices for hydrocarbons and energy resources, more strictly,

Og. We have not yet passed the world prices to the end, and in some places the bourgeoisie does not include heating in the shops, expensive. Do we have California?

You took the quote out of context.

It is necessary to stop these "games", to switch to world prices for hydrocarbons and energy resources, to more rigidly, on the part of the Russian Federation, tie preferences to the foreign policy course pursued by Lukashenko.

Where are you? Where, we have not yet switched to world prices to the end? In some places, the bourgeoisie does not include heating in the shops. I repeat. Where is this happening?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: kapitan92

Where are you? Where, we have not yet switched to world prices to the end?

In Russia, where else.

Quote: kapitan92

Where is this happening?

Yes, everything is there, with us. 5 years in this workshop behind the machines stood.
Let’s see what will happen when the tax maneuver ends, and our prices jump to world prices. And Belarusians, by itself.

[Berkut752]

Far from it, let the creatures bite unprincipled. While there will be no free apartments in Russia and Belarus (as in the USSR), all energy resources and water are cheaper. The price of 1 liter in the USSR is 1 kopeck, now 40.

[ioan-e]

Quote: knn54

Insanity or provocation?

Neither one nor the other, just the jack between the ass and the throne has already been charged, but to control it still oh how you want!

[Nastia makarova]

let him buy

[To be or not to be]

"The collective farm is voluntary"
So in the store - no dough - eat eyes.
I recall right away Yushchenko - this also demanded a formula for the price of Russian gas

[bessmertniy]

Russia was called into the market. Russia went to the market. And now she is offered to trade not at market prices, but at those that consumers like. This is some kind of economic insanity.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: bessmertniy

Russia was called into the market. Russia went to the market. And now she is offered to trade not at market prices, but at those that consumers like. This is some kind of economic insanity.

close to the "market" does not smell. it has its own "accounting".

[Snail N9]

Excuse me, but where can you read in the original what Lukashenka pointed to the price of Russian oil for Belarus exactly "as for the Smolensk region"? As far as I know, Lukashenka was offered "the weighted average planned price for mix oil for 2020" which was $ 7-10 higher than it was in reality at the time of the negotiations.

[SNEAKY]

Also did not "taste" about the price of Smolensk. She touched gas. The author, like me, chtol on a spree
Oil is a separate grater. The author should dig through the open spaces about a soluble business, there are definitely a lot of people in the subject

[Aerodrome]

Quote: SNEAKY

The author is like me, in the middle of chtol

The nursery cho ...

[iaaf73]

I completely agree with you. Separate negotiations are underway on oil and gas contracts. Unfortunately, there is no consensus on gas, and so far only a two-month preliminary supply agreement has been reached ... Belarus also does not quite like the price of gas, and I want to comment partly on why. How the gas transmission system Beltransgaz is known, at one time, at the insistent request of Russia, it was sold to it, in my opinion, for the equivalent of 5,5 billion dollars. Belarus was not eager to sell its pipe, but that it didn’t work out as it went with Ukraine this deal, while there were agreements, they say, do not worry the Belarusians, from now on the gas price will be the most favorable for you)). For oil, too, there used to be a fairly stable and understandable formula between us, until Russia came up with a tax maneuver. Well, when to maneuver Belarus wanted it to be kindly told, guys to stand, where are you in bast shoes and the Moscow train (this is such a joke) .... In general, trouble, brothers, Russia does not understand Bel’s problems Russia, and Belarus cannot, for geopolitical reasons, do everything that Russia wants ((. I myself was born in the USSR and would personally like the unification to happen ... and with Ukraine in particular, I have a brother there in Chernigov .... but not so much as it all happens, and what is suspicious is the closer 2024 the rougher and more insistent ...

[Astoria]

1) the USSR is over, nothing is necessary from the former fraternal republics of the Russian Federation except neutrality — unable to provide it — there will be dismemberment.
2)

As is known, the gas transmission system, Beltransgaz, at one time, at the insistent request of Russia, was sold to it, in my opinion, for the equivalent of 5,5 billion dollars. Belarus was not eager to sell its pipe

- the fact that your collective farmer spent $ 5 billion on ghouls received from the sale of pipes + at least 10-15 billion from savings (in only 12 years the gas sale discount amounted to $ 3 billion), it’s sad to say what else
3)

at the same time there were agreements, they say do not worry the Belarusians, from now on the price of gas will be the most favorable for you)).

- 127 dollars is not enough, you want to slurp straight from the well. We can dictate the purchase address of liposuction machines.
4)

For oil, there used to be a fairly stable and understandable formula between us, until Russia came up with a tax maneuver

- the tax maneuver is an internal Russian business and a global practice aimed at processing raw materials on its own territory, since the duty mechanism does not provide opportunities for full implementation.
5)

In general, brothers, Russia does not understand the problems of Belarus

- Do not dissemble, the problem is clear - you do not have money to live within our means, but simply speaking - the wizards.
6)

For geopolitical reasons, Belarus cannot do everything that Russia wants ((.

- Well, tell me why you didn’t recognize at least ... South Ossetia, who squeezed the collective farmer’s testicles so hard really offshore bankers

[Whisper]

Losing Belarus, and on the other hand, where is loyalty and real steps towards integration? It used to be all brothers, and that was enough. Now kinship needs to be proved by actions, and Old Man wants to be a brother only in one direction.

[Pavel57]

How much is loyalty? And was it at low prices? This is mentioned in the article ..

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Sheptun

Losing Belarus, and on the other hand, where is loyalty and real steps towards integration? It used to be all brothers, and that was enough. Now kinship needs to be proved by actions, and Old Man wants to be a brother only in one direction.

to pay for "brotherhood" - have already passed ... threw everything! now another ... more vile and selfish.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Sheptun

Losing Belarus, and on the other hand, where is loyalty and real steps towards integration? It used to be all brothers, and that was enough. Now kinship needs to be proved by actions, and Old Man wants to be a brother only in one direction.

25th again ... don't you understand yourself? we do not have "statehood" in Russia, there is already privatized, and there is not yet privatized. where should Belarus go? so that she would go hand in hand? are they crazy "? they don't need Chubais.

[SNEAKY]

You’ll smile, but read where Chubais comes from. Maybe he’s in his small homeland?)

[martin-159]

Such people have their homeland where the loot is.

[Fitter65]

The president of a neighboring state is convinced that his republic should receive oil at the same price at which Smolensk Oblast receives it.

Nothing of the kind, he wants Russia to pay extra for what he buys from us ...

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Fitter65

The president of a neighboring state is convinced that his republic should receive oil at the same price at which Smolensk Oblast receives it.

Nothing of the kind, he wants Russia to pay extra for what he buys from us ...

we don’t know what Luke knows.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Aerodrome

we don’t know what Luke knows.

Luka knows that he is flying past the trough, and if he does not agree to the Russian scenario, he will be "thrown out" of the chair. For another week and a half he will wither and fly to Sochi for the next meeting of the President of the union state.

[Reserve buildbat]

He does not want to take at the suggested price - he has to offer more. He became insolent something. Since Belarus is a separate state, it does not have the right to qualify for deliveries at domestic Russian prices. And oil and gas through spratland and skakuasia will cost him many times more.

[SNEAKY]

Old Man had already bought oil from Hugo Chavez by tankers. I should have stayed. I would be responsible for such "offenses" with a waste of the budget.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: stock buildbat

He does not want to take at the suggested price - he has to offer more. He became insolent something. Since Belarus is a separate state, it does not have the right to qualify for deliveries at domestic Russian prices. And oil and gas through spratland and skakuasia will cost him many times more.

Ivan ... you're a sane man, you must understand that there are "pitfalls" about which he is not spoken of. not everything is so simple ... our crooks have gotten used to it and drank their ear ...

[Reserve buildbat]

Do you want to say that Rygoritch is insane? So it is, but for greyhound and ogrest can fully It's just that his behavior is not the behavior of a politician, a leader of a state, etc. This is the behavior of sub-fence punks. Which systematically rakes in the cabbage soup from passers-by, but does not have enough brain volume to understand that he is to blame. And the concrete is glassy to him

[Sayan]

In vain he started this, an example of Yanukovych trying to sit on two chairs apparently not for good, although he’s better at home than he is, a Rostov settler, but still ...

[Fan-fan]

And why is it bad for Yanukovych, he sits calmly in Russia, doesn’t do a damn thing, in the sense doesn’t work, and ask him what incomes he lives on? Probably laid in due time or saved up from the salary of the president?

[Sayan]

I meant how Yanyk lost power and how he was saved, and not how he lives in Rostov. Read carefully before scribbling the answer.

[ochakow703]

So there are no queues ... a flag in hand. Old Man constantly confuses warm and soft, however superstar.

[bar]

we will find this oil elsewhere. What we do. And found

Well, great, I'm happy for them.

“75 years of the Great Victory. We will bawl everyone wherever possible - both in Russia and in Belarus. But Gazprom today makes three times more money in Belarus than in Germany.

It’s strange. He claimed that the Second World War is not his war. Accordingly, the Great Victory is not his either. Why bother about it and squeeze buns under it? Then either remove the cross or put on shorts.

[bar]

I note that I won that war peopleand not a flag over the Kremlin. And if the Belarusian people, following the Old Man, want to distance themselves from this, this is his problem.
And I also note that laughter for no reason is a sign you know what

[Alexga]

I'll clarify, the Soviet people! What do you have to do with the Soviet people after the establishment of the medal "Defender of Free Russia"? You will decide there. And at the expense of laughter, it's just ridiculous when the Supreme Commander sits during the passage of the troops in a ceremonial march next to the draped Mausoleum, to which the banners of the defeated armies were thrown Something like this. If you are offended by this, then forgive me, this does not apply to the People, but to the current taxis.

[bar]

What do you have to do with the Soviet people after the establishment of the medal "Defender of Free Russia"?

Ask this question to those who approved it and who were awarded it. I do not belong to either one or the other. But to to the peopleI hope I am.

[Alexga]

Why "hope"? Personally, I refer myself to the Russian people without any reservations.

[bar]

I'm just more humble.

[Alexga]

Probably easier for me. I live in Belarus, speak the state Russian language and use the remnants of socialism.

[bar]

I can only envy, in white. Unfortunately, no one has prepared the remnants of socialism for Russia

[Alexga]

Unfortunately, local moderators take a very strange position and they will ban me at any time, so I can disappear from the local resource at any time. Strange rules here.

[bar]

Come on, don’t be afraid, no one will be banned. You are quite politically correct. Here, even the terry Zionists no one bans.
And the rules here are really strange ...

[Alexga]

Don’t be scared, we’ll be reborn like a Phoenix bird. At the expense of political correctness, Tamara has a different opinion here, she has already written something incomprehensible three times.

[bar]

In a personal? Probably in love

[Alexga]

Yes, in PM, well, if for the first time for the catch phrase of the Foreign Minister, but today I don’t understand at all. About love, too, it is doubtful, too many years lived in the world.

[Aerodrome]

Is there anyone here for the Belarusians? or am I alone? Why are you judging in one direction, and no one is nodding at the Zhulnichevsky "gazpro"? I, I respect and love Belarusians, hard workers, everything is difficult, I understand ... but they don't have Damn "nominal wells, and" pipes "... but people live, and we have tubes blowing in all directions, and we are "torn up" to a heap ... half of the country is in poverty ... pride! praise er! hurray!

[Alexga]

It looks like there are only two of us.

[Fan-fan]

Guys, I am also with you, as I see that someone really wants to embroil us with the Belarusians. It is not enough for them that Ukraine was torn away from us and turned into an enemy; now they are "working" further in the Belarusian direction.

[Alexga]

So our-your western partners want to apply the methods here as well as in one country, which borders the south of Belarus. Something is already noticeable.

[Victor N]

The negative is not towards the people, but towards Lukashenka and his "elite". It's just that many commentators are inaccurate in their statements, do not remember that "simplicity is worse than theft."

[iaaf73]

Read the comment above, there are already three of us . But this is not the point. Aerodromny is probably right, neither we, for our part, nor the Russians, with our own, know about all the underwater sidelines of these negotiations, that’s insulting.

[bar]

we have tubes blowing in all directions, and they "tear" us to a heap ... half of the country is in poverty ...

It is precisely because of poverty that pipes blow in all directions from U.S

[Victor N]

Within Russia, debts for consumed gas are quite hefty, even for subsidized ones. They will not "blow in all directions - there will be no budget revenues, there is nothing to replace. A strange position on the hydrocarbon trade ... Note: the US really, really does not like Russian gas, the US. Therefore, the question arises ... exact.

[bar]

A strange position about the trade in hydrocarbons ...

The position is really very strange when the Russian leadership does literally everything to sell these hydrocarbons to customers. Even despite the sanctions, humiliations, huge costs for the construction of pipelines, unprofitable contracts and prices. And buyers-beneficiaries at the same time build all sorts of intrigues and pose all sorts of obstacles.

[polar fox]

Quote: Aerodrome

is there anybody here for Belarus?

Yes, there is for the Belarusians ... there is no sense to the Kremlin boatmen to prove anything ... they see only what they want to see. Even in the text they see what is not written.

[Alexga]

So let's just share our opinions.

[Andrey VOV]

And you respected do not live? Do not work? Do not drive a car? The laptop is not for 30 thousand? And what noom ???

[Alexga]

And if the Belarusian people, following the Old Man, want to distance themselves from this, this is his problem.

At the expense of distance. Since the opening of the Museum of the Great Patriotic War in Minsk, the Flag of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics has been developing. And November 7 in Belarus a state holiday.

[bar]

I am glad about this fact. But I’m not glad that the Belarusian people didn’t pull their dad away so that he would not disgrace his people in his stream of consciousness.
And I’m still not happy that the Old Man in his holy war with our taxis for cheap oil and gas is speculating on the friendship of our peoples. And unfortunately, this speculation is beginning to give rise to the people.

[Alexga]

This is not a matter of consciousness, just people in his warehouse need to speak a piece of paper. GDP speaks in writing, so his speech does not allow such opuses. Old Man is the head of the collective farm, and therefore behaves in this way. He has such a job.

[bar]

What does a piece of paper have to do with it. I'm not talking about the style and smoothness of presentation, but about the meaning of what was said. And I do not like this sense a little. Accordingly, the dad himself, too, although he is the dominant head of the collective farm.

[Alexga]

I think the explanation for this is simple. He came to a country from which he wants to receive benefits, here he starts to cry, showing him how poor and unfortunate he is with his state.

[bar]

Arrived in a country from which he wants to receive benefits, here comes a tear

The desire to receive benefits is understandable, the "reduced social responsibility" is not explainable. He's not a girl, but the leader of the nation.

[Olezhek]

This is not a matter of consciousness, just people in his warehouse need to speak a piece of paper. GDP speaks in writing, so his speech does not allow such opuses. Old Man is the head of the collective farm, and therefore behaves in this way. He has such a job.

Well, the fact that a person has not become a normal president in 25 years says a lot

And about the war - yes, a Freudian saying
Moreover, Mr. Lukashenko didn’t fight anywhere, only he dragged a marshal’s cap with shoulder straps

[Alexga]

And the normal president is how?

[Olezhek]

And the normal president is how?

Kemal Ataturk - "Father of the Turks"

So, for an example.

[Alexga]

Funny, why not Hindenburg? Still European.

[Olezhek]

Funny, why not Hindenburg? Still European.

Dear you are my man but
in the first place - I’m not a Zeeuropean and am not obsessed with hidenburgs.
secondarily, Hidenburg was "not a schmog," but Ataturk could!
And how!
And Gidenburg, as a politician, is practically impossible!

[Alexga]

Oleg, do you want to talk about Ataturk, or rather, do you want to shed as much blood in Belarus as you did at Ataturk? Don't you think that your example is not the most successful?

[Olezhek]

Oleg, you want to talk about Ataturk, more precisely, you want

But you must admit - no one has ever called Kemal Ataturk "a girl with low moral standards."

And after his death, monuments were erected to him throughout Turkey.

Something like this ...

[Alexga]

And what does the girl with low social responsibility have to do with it, I asked about completely different things.

[Olezhek]

At the expense of distance. Since the opening of the Museum of the Great Patriotic War in Minsk, the Flag of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics has been developing. And November 7 in Belarus, public holidays

Yeah, they like to hang beautiful flags in Belarus.
And hang out beautifully

[Alexga]

This is better than posting information from tutbaya.

[Olezhek]

It’s better than posting information

Here you are, Alexander, and have come under the hand ... you had to substitute yourself like that ...

At the expense of distance. Since the opening of the Museum of the Great Patriotic War in Minsk, the Flag of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics has been developing. And November 7th

Why "hope"? Personally, I refer myself to the Russian people without any reservations.

Komrad, but it’s weak (if you’re a guy by gender) to register on the same bay with the same avatar,
and start saying the same things?
You know, so to speak, from a tank flying a red flag, start broadcasting your Russian?
about the USSR?

I'll clarify, the Soviet people! What do you have to do with the Soviet people after the establishment of the medal "Defender of Free Russia"? You will decide there.

You express beautiful ideas.
Here, under the red flag.
Poorly to do this on the resource of "brotherly Belarus"?

Best of all on the wonderful resource "Nasha Niva"
Everyone there will love you ... with a run ...

[Alexga]

And why not on a charter with a partisan, but maybe right on Freedom? It's funny, however. Also Belarusian resources to me!

[Alexga]

I will add

You know, so to speak, from a tank flying a red flag, start broadcasting your Russian?
about the USSR?

if you carefully examined the avatar, then this is the Banner of Battle of the 29th Panzer Division, which was deployed in Slutsk, Minsk Region.

[Olezhek]

if you carefully examined the avatar, then this is the Banner of Battle of the 29th Panzer Division, which was deployed in Slutsk, Minsk Region.

And if you see the avatar even more carefully, then in the background will appear Polish winged hussars ....

[ochakow703]

I carefully read it, concluded. I do not agree with my entry above - emotions are ahead of the mind.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: ochakow703

is there anybody here for Belarus? or am I alone?

Quote: AlexGa

It looks like there are only two of us.

Quote: Fan-Fan

Guys, I'm with you too

Quote: polar fox

Yes there is for the Belarusians ...

already five will not shoot ... it's just a small "branch" in the flow of information. THANKS TO YOU, REAL! Belarusians- you, Brothers, remember, don’t jump as far as Ukraine. Politicians will leave, and we will live.

[Loess]

our country sells gas to Minsk at prices "three times higher than those" at which blue fuel is supplied to Germany.

Because the Russian Federation wants us to buy oil from it at prices higher than world prices.

I still do not understand from the article, is this really the case, or is Lukashenka again "wise"?

[user1212]

Quote: Less

I still do not understand from the article, is this really the case, or is Lukashenka again "wise"?

So both sides are cunning. Let the tariffs for Belarus be announced, and we will compare. But nobody gives the real numbers. As for the world oil price, it comes with the postscript "with shipment from ...". The price on the London Stock Exchange is given with shipment from British ports, and Lukashenko compares it with the price at the entrance to Belarus. These are never equal prices. Gas is possible for Belarusians and more expensive, but not three times for sure. The Germans may have a discount for volumes, and for a long-term contract, and for the construction of gas pipelines, for sure, some kind of offset

[polar fox]

Quote: user1212

The price on the London Stock Exchange is given with shipping from English ports,

But what, all the oil tankers with oil are in London? Are they waiting for sale?

[user1212]

Quote: polar fox

and what, oil tankers are all with oil in London

Since when did ocean tankers reach the Thames to London?

[Victor N]

Tankers can stand in the Himalayas, but the market is still London.

[Olezhek]

and what, oil tankers are all with oil at london? are waiting for sales

and?

Since when did ocean tankers reach the Thames to London?

Tankers can stand in the Himalayas

Conclusion: living scary!

[Astoria]

- this is not a secret
According to Belstat, in January-October 2019, Belarus imported oil from Russia at an average price of $ 364 per ton. (At the same time, the average export price of own oil is $ 438 per ton.)

[carstorm 11]

no. he became insolent with this game to the public. really. I can imagine these annual exacerbations of how annoying people are in the Kremlin.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: carstorm 11

no. he became insolent with this game to the public. really. I can imagine these annual exacerbations of how annoying people are in the Kremlin.

oh well threw it on the fan - the boots will pick up the pluses ....!

[carstorm 11]

I do not care deeply about the pluses and what you think about it. this is my point of view and that’s it.

[yuliatreb]

He, as a small child, does everything to the evil of others, the planned exercises with NATO are links of the same chain. Campaign senility plus high self-esteem. When will the era of eternal presidents finally end?

[eagle owl]

Yes, buy wherever you want, we’ll see how you continue to push fuel for the APU.
But father - you really lost the edge.

[Dym71]

Quote: Uhu

We’ll see how you push the fuel for the APU.
But father - you really lost the edge.

And we have the very stigma in the fluff, so that Butskie put a deuce in behavior.
26.04.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX, remember:

The Aviakon plant, part of Ukroboronprom, is acquiring the main rotor blades for Mi-8 helicopters from Russia. All business relations between Aviakon and the plant from Ulan-Ude are carried out through the Vertolservis company

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Uhu

Yes, buy wherever you want, we’ll see how you continue to push fuel for the APU.

Ask how much Russia sold fuel to Ukraine last year. INFA in the public domain. Old Man smokes on the sidelines.

[Olezhek]

Ask how much Russia sold fuel to Ukraine last year. INFA in the public domain. Old Man smokes on the sidelines

You know, it’s in vain that Belarusians laugh so much on this subject
The fact is that the support of the Kiev junta in the destruction of the Russian Donbass
Belarusians will not be forgotten in 30 years or in 50.


And yes - from the funny Belarusian humor it’s funny only to the Belarusians themselves
They joke themselves - they laugh
Can you send Petrosyan as an ambassador?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Olezhek

The fact is that the support of the Kiev junta in the destruction of the Russian Donbass
Belarusians will not be forgotten in 30 years or in 50.

You rave about Olezhek - Belarus did not supply Ukraine with anything that Russia would not supply there.

Quote: Olezhek

Can you send Petrosyan as an ambassador?

He was already with us in Tolyatti, he said that he would not come again. The box office is small.

[Sanches]

If he agrees to remain in the union only on condition of low prices for oil and gas, then why do we need such a corrupt skin in the union?

[Shaman]

A friend is known in price.

[bar]

Russia offers oil to Belarus at prices that are "higher than world", and this situation does not suit him

And what's the problem? Let him buy at world prices if they are more suitable for him.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: bar

Russia offers oil to Belarus at prices that are "higher than world", and this situation does not suit him

And what's the problem? Let him buy at world prices if they are more suitable for him.

will anyone turn on the brains? what's the matter with you ...?

[bar]

What about us? Personally, it’s a little unpleasant for me when the Old Man does business on our cheap oil, selling its refined products to Ukraine. I understand business and all that, but a little unpleasant. In the same way, it’s a little unpleasant for me that Belarus has not recognized Crimea as Russian.

[Alexga]

In the same way, it’s a little unpleasant for me that Belarus did not recognize Crimea as Russian

Dear, how do you imagine the procedure for the recognition of Crimea. Back in 2014, Luka asked the questioning journalists of Ukraine: "If you consider Crimea to be yours, then why did you not fight for it?" There will be no other now, in any case, while negotiations are taking place in Minsk, this is better for the Russian Federation than going to Paris and Berlin. And in the UN, representatives of the Republic of Belarus always hold the hand of the Russian Federation. In 15, they abstained, but the reason for the continuation of the negotiations in Minsk.

[bar]

Dear, how do you imagine the procedure for recognizing the Crimea.

I have no idea whatsoever, I'm not a diplomat. If Old Man doesn’t know either, let him ask those who admitted. Although the same Cuban leadership.

[Fan-fan]

It seems that the brains started problems or they are explicit trolls writing.

[Tank jacket]

I recall a joke about a cross and shorts ...

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Tank jacket

I recall a joke about a cross and shorts ...

sure ... put on ...

[Alexander X]

Well, if he finds oil cheaper, then let him buy. That is his right. But just find it?

[Fan-fan]

And why shouldn’t we sell oil to Belarus at the same price as, for example, to the Poles? After all, this is a conversation, and in the article from Lukashenka there are no words about Smolensk prices, only about world prices.

[CommanderDIVA]

Lukashenko is not a politician or a strategist, but more like a director of a small trading company, losing positions and trust of the people inside his country, trying to gain political points in the world at any confrontation with Russia, hoping for the West there for a long time he has been regarded as a dictator, will continue to flirt end with them as Gaddafi or Milosevic

[Aerodrome]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

Lukashenko is not a politician and not a strategist, but more like a director of a small trading llc,

ok ... now tell me for our "gazpromovskih" .... who do they remind? what to you from the price for brothers-Belarusians? are you going to get rich? Will prices collapse in "magnets"? housing and communal services will fall? Are you really that ... well, you can't do that .. ". grow wiser ..."

[bar]

losing the position and trust of the people within his country, he is trying to gain political points in the world at any confrontation with Russia

And thereby opposes and pits our peoples. He is not eternal, and someday he will leave, but enmity may remain.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

Lukashenko is not a politician or strategist, but more like a director of a small trading company, losing positions and confidence of the people inside his country trying to gain political points in the world in any confrontation

so ... we change the name of the President to another ... what do we have? same ?

[prior]

And I am ashamed of trading Russia.
I gasped with Ukraine on gas ...
And he is trying to tear 3 skins from the Allied Belarusians.
Who will go to such a huckster?

[bar]

And I am ashamed of trading Russia.

And I was ashamed of the generous Soviet Union, which fed free then to anyone who smiled and declared fraternal friendship forever and the ideals of socialism, even if it was a cannibal. Despite the fact that the Soviet people themselves lived far from luxury.

[Bar2]

Quote: bar

And I was ashamed of the generous Soviet Union, which fed free to anyone,

she didn’t lie, the USSR didn’t feed anyone for free, feeding the USSR to Africa did not allow the West to get rich from Africa.
As for the CMEA countries, after the collapse of the USSR, for example, Czechoslovakia should also remain.
By investing in the Warsaw Pact, the USSR achieved full parity of power in the world and contributed to the cause of peace in CASE.
As regards, for example, friendship with Egypt or Syria, it was precisely in the wars with Israel that our weapons were rolled in at these training grounds.
The friendship of the USSR with India always brought not only benefits, but even saved the tank industry later.
The friendship of the USSR with China has led to the fact that with China, as an ally of Russia, they now reckon in everything
world.
You just repeat the propaganda of others.

[bar]

after the collapse of the USSR, it still should have remained

Namesake, do you offer to traditionally pay and repent?

[Bar2]

Quote: bar

after the collapse of the USSR, it still should have remained

Namesake, do you offer to traditionally pay and repent?

First of all, I suggest not lying.
Belarus, our natural ally and all trade relations with our friends, is simply disgusting.
Belarus, as a Russian state, MUST receive oil and gas for FREE, as the first ally to take only for transportation.
Russian people in Russia should also have the lowest gas and gas prices, and then think about Germany and Europe, even let them die.

[Victor N]

Ally?! Friend?! You, apparently, have never had real friends who fought back to back with you. This "friend" is ready to take for free, but not give.

[Bar2]

Quote: Victor N

Ally?! Friend?! You, apparently, have never had real friends who fought back to back with you. This "friend" is ready to take for free, but not give.

Belarus lost every third resident in the war, Belarusians are not traitors, so this is normal.
The economy of Belarus is focused on Russia for 80%. How can it "not give"?
What brings you the wrong way. Do you work for Hitler?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: bar

And I was ashamed of the generous Soviet Union, which fed free then to anyone who smiled and declared fraternal friendship forever and the ideals of socialism, even if it was a cannibal. Despite the fact that the Soviet people themselves lived far from luxury.

I am ashamed when the mind is not visible ... but the fact that there were our bases everywhere, and the Americans were sitting exactly on the pope, was it worth nothing? after the collapse of the Union,
this evil spirits crawled everywhere, because they sensed weakness like a hyena. - this is the current result. The USSR "threw in" into security, and now into pipes.

[Olezhek]

And I am ashamed of trading Russia.
I gasped with Ukraine on gas ...
And he is trying to tear 3 skins from the Allied Belarusians.
Who will go to such a huckster?

You have a bit of humor ...

[mavrus]

I do not justify the dad ...
But "our effective managers" with salaries of several million a month ... in Russia they have already arranged prices higher than world prices. Of course, if the ruble is lowered to 100 per dollar (or even better to two hundred), then it seems to be a bit cheaper. But not a single oil and gas producing country (except Russia) pulls off their "three skins", and the proceeds from the sale "reach" everyone, and are not appropriated by a narrow handful of oligarchs, bureaucrats and deputies (like ours).
So I’m on the side of the Old Man, we still don’t get anything except raising prices, in any case ...

[ochakow703]

I’m applauding you standing upright!

[Tavrik]

Yes, everything will be fine in Belarus. Will find other suppliers. Even more expensive. How many times have the Baltic States and the Ukraine been buried. Like, "without us, you will all die." So what?
We must be courageous and agree with the fact: the Russian Federation is not attractive as a geostrategic partner. Maximum - as a supplier of oil, gas, timber. And that is not always the case. As a result, we lose even the once faithful allies.

[bar]

As a result, we lose even the once faithful allies.

"Loyal allies" always, sooner or later, go over to the side of the strong, the law of the pack. And in the modern world, Russia, unfortunately, is not the strongest

[Olezhek]

Yes, everything will be fine in Belarus. Will find other suppliers. Even more expensive. How many times have the Baltic States and the Ukraine been buried. Like, "without us, you will all die." So what?

Yes, nothing: USSR-91 had 52 million people.
Today they live at non-fallow lands (based on the consumption of bread and electricity)
million 26-28 ... something like that ...

And so yes - the jest is beautiful ...

[Tavrik]

In Russia, the figures are no less depressing ...
I was surprised to learn that over the past year, the car market in Ukraine grew by 8 percent, while ours sank pretty much. Let's calculate how many retail chains closed, left Russia last year?
At the same time, we do not forget that the Baltic States, Ukraine, Belarus are countries that are not burdened with unmeasured mineral reserves.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Tavrik

Yes, everything will be fine in Belarus. Will find other suppliers. Even more expensive. How many times have the Baltic States and the Ukraine been buried. Like, "without us, you will all die." So what?

fact ... everyone will live without us, for the worse .. whether it is poor or not poorer than the bulk of Russians in their country. we have already been rubbed in by the media that the income from the "bowels" to the treasury is "small" ... and the lightning did not kill them ... for that kind of money, they will call black and white. all these "priests and boys". don't watch tv ...

[Olezhek]

Even more expensive. How many times have the Baltic States and Ukraine been buried. Like, "without us, you will all die." So what?

In the sense? Ukraine is like everything ...
Lost the features of the state. And in 1991, it was among the top 10 industrialized countries.

Well, the Baltic states everything is fine there - just territory.

[Tavrik]

I understand that "nothing pleases like the failure of a friend." Get in your car and try to enter this "just territory". Check, so to speak, for yourself. They have all the signs of the state.

[Olezhek]

I understand that "nothing is more pleasing than the failure of a friend"

Bandera mini is not a friend

Get in the car and try to enter this "just territory"

Are there roads left?
Did they seem to be decommunized?

Check, so to speak, on yourself. They have all the signs of the state.

Just look at the honest face of comedian Zelensky
It’s as if Petrosyan entered our Kremlin

[Olezhek]

Yes, everything will be fine in Belarus. Will find other suppliers.

Which ones?

[Gardamir]

To that of the print here will explain why the Kremlin forgives the United States everything? They presented aluminum well, but in each article they make an enemy of Lukashenko.

[vitvit123]

The favorite method of those who are FOR Belarus is to immediately drag other countries. Well, we are talking about Belarus .., to whom Russia forgives debts, sells something, these are other countries, other things and this is the business of Russia. No need to pull up others. And they don’t make the enemy out of Lukashenko, they simply retype his words, he’s talkative himself, and people form an opinion. He is judged by his words, to some extent by deeds .. that’s all.

[Gardamir]

The favorite method of those who ... Make a ring of enemies around, this is your vaunted foreign policy. That is, Lukashenko ruined Russia, so that’s why I can’t retire at my age

[vitvit123]

So in Belarus, too, the retirement age, as in Russia, was raised much earlier than ours! Who ruined it? And this bad Russia refuses to contain ... What are you modestly silent about this?
The ring of enemies forms itself, because on the example of the same Lukashenko, like they milk Russia, or Russia is the enemy. Everything is old as the world, because they themselves are not wealthy and do not represent anything of themselves, and there are many historical nuances. And Belarus has friends along the borders, while Ukraine has friends along the borders?

[Tavrik]

Because someone and family do not live in Minsk and Vitebsk at all.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Gardamir

To that of the print here will explain why the Kremlin forgives the United States everything? They presented aluminum well, but in each article they make an enemy of Lukashenko.

even more than Zelensky ... so ... 3 lardiks were thrown to the Ukrainian fraternal ... why such ...

[Azimuth]

If the integration between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus really happens, then for Putin (the receiver) at least 80% will vote in the elections. And oil is a tool to speed up Father’s decisions in this direction. But this is similar to how the grandson forces the granny to rewrite the apartment on himself. Doubts prevail over the granny.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Azimut

And oil is a tool to speed up Father’s decisions in this direction.

I wonder how this instrument "accelerates", if in Russia by the 25th year it should be at world prices?

Quote: Azimut

for Putin (the receiver) at least 80% will vote in the election.

And where did you get the idea that 80% will vote for the "receiver"?

[vitvit123]

What is so hard to understand how it speeds up? It accelerates that there will be less money in Belarus, and Luka has nowhere to go (no one except the Russian Federation will subsidize him). And what will happen to the instrument in Russia at world prices by the year 25, is it possible for more details? You are welcome ..
If the EBN successor was voted for, then the chances are great for this successor!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vitvit123

we have a tool in Russia at world prices, can it be more detailed? You are welcome ..

Read the laws on tax maneuver, which will end by the year 25. In short, the customs duties will be reset to zero (they already started that year), and money to the budget from oil and gas will come not from duties that were not applied to Belarus under the EAEU, but directly from the amount extracted. Because the Old Man is furious that a piece of the pie is taken away. But this is not easier for ordinary residents, because as a result of the abolition of duties, prices in Russia will simply equalize to world average.

[vitvit123]

Well, I’ve been impressed more than once by knowing the laws of you! I dare to remind you of any specifics, you have never cited ... only general phrases and populism. And now you are mixing world prices for foreign trade and domestic prices, inside Russia and in one pile ... although Luke is furious about this, it’s understandable .. but longer you mix trade between independent, different countries and oil products trade within the Russian country ! ... you already tried to point it out to you above, but you again (apparently) did not understand anything ...
--- As a result of the abolition of duties, prices in Russia will align to world prices ---
What does export duty from a country have to do with the price at which they sell domestically and the price at which they sell to another country? You have mixed at least three points into one and it turned out ..... (no words).

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vitvit123

What does export duty from a country have to do with the price at which they sell domestically and the price at which they sell to another country?

Despite the fact that within the framework of the EAEU, we supplied Belarus a certain amount of oil duty free. At domestic prices. What part of the dad drove for re-export. Now the shop is gradually hiding, since the entire arrival of the dough in the treasury of Russia in the year 25 will be from the severance tax, and not from duties, and the dad will not be able to re-export anything, and then he really does not care who gets oil from us, or the bazaar. Understand yourself, I'm already tired of you chewing simple things.

[vitvit123]

1.) --because as a result of the abolition of duties, prices in Russia will simply align to the world average .-----
and what does Old Man have to do with it?
2) there are no special questions for your logic with Luke. but the question is, what does the domestic market of Russia have to do with it?
3.) ---------- As a result of the abolition of duties, prices in Russia will equalize to world prices ----------
the fact that the income will be from PDI - this is understandable to anyone (you can not write this). What does world oil prices have to do with it, inside Russia?
what are you chewing? I brought you your three points ........, regarding your words, please explain them? How are Luke and domestic prices in Russia related?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vitvit123

and what does Old Man have to do with it?

Despite the fact that the EAEU was adopted as part of a general increase in the well-being of all participating countries, and the increase in energy prices is clearly not the case. This also applies to the second question.

Quote: vitvit123

What does world oil prices have to do with it, inside Russia?

Yes, despite the fact that the mining companies will not care who, where and at what price to sell, if they will have to tear the tax at the initial stage of production. Because exactly how duties restrain price growth within the country. If such a simple thing is not clear to you, then I do not know how to reach you.

[vitvit123]

Thanks here for your work! Well, regarding the first point, it can be discussed for a long time, but on the second point, I’m looking at this law a bit fluently and haven’t found anything there that would have changed by the year 25. this law is in force and now companies are now paying individual taxpayers, and I don’t see what should change by the year 25. If it doesn’t bother you, indicate me the articles of the law and the tax code ...
I just found it, but this is technical information, although it directly relates to the topic of conversation (this is from this law)

When calculating the mineral extraction tax for oil in 2019-2020, such special indicators (associated only with this mineral) are used:

taking into account fluctuations in world prices and determined monthly by the Government of the Russian Federation or by independent calculation (clause 3 of article 342 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation);
characterizing the degree of complexity of production and taking on a certain value depending on the specific characteristics of the deposit and the year the development began (paragraphs 1, 2 of article 342.2 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation);
reflecting the degree of depletion of the field; depending on the value of the previous coefficient, it can either take on a specific value or become settlement (paragraphs 3, 6 of Article 342.2 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation);
characterizing the features of oil production and calculated by a formula that includes several coefficients, both calculated and taking a certain digital value, depending on the year of use (Article 342.5 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation).

those. here, too, not everything is so straightforward, the government has all sorts of mechanisms for both increasing and decreasing the tax, so I don’t see anything unambiguous for the domestic market of Russia.
I’ll read on now .... look for what you say, but I would like a point from you so as not to shovel for a long time ....

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vitvit123

and until I found anything there, how would it specifically change by the year 25

Hold on.

In general, the maneuver provides that the export duty on oil will be reduced from the current 30% to 0% within six years starting in 2019, with a simultaneous increase in mineral extraction tax for oil within three years.

https://ria.ru/20180804/1525953323.html

[vitvit123]

and you didn’t read further what they wrote to me? it is written in black and white

To prevent a rise in domestic prices for oil products or their deficit, the maneuver provides for two mechanisms: a reverse excise tax on oil supplied for refining, and an additional damping excise tax, which takes into account the profitability of exporting oil products.

and further

The maneuver also implies the right of the government in the event of force majeure, namely a sharp increase in fuel prices in the domestic market, to introduce an additional duty on the export of petroleum products.

What is it like ? you are somehow lopsided to submit information! pull out in parts? ....

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vitvit123

The maneuver also implies the right of the government in the event of force majeure, namely a sharp increase in fuel prices in the domestic market, to introduce an additional duty on the export of petroleum products.

I read, you are my bath sheet, I read.

Quote: vitvit123

you are somehow lopsided to submit information! pull out in parts? ....

What am I doing here, copy the whole footcloth?

Quote: vitvit123

The maneuver also implies the right of the government in the event of force majeure, namely a sharp increase in fuel prices in the domestic market, to introduce an additional duty on the export of petroleum products.

Until the duties are completely reset, there is nothing to say about force majeure. In 2025 it will be seen.

[vitvit123]

then you don’t need to write the wrong information at all. because it is a lie! again I caught you on the distortion of information! agree?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vitvit123

then you don’t need to write the wrong information at all. because it is a lie! again I caught you on the distortion of information! agree?

Figures. I gave the link. I will pour balm on your suffering wound:

The federal budget for oil at $ 40 will receive a guaranteed additional income of one trillion rubles over six years by completing the tax maneuver, said Alexei Sazanov, head of the tax and customs policy department of the Ministry of Finance. Deputy Energy Minister Pavel Sorokin emphasized that he does not expect a serious negative effect on the refinery

https://rg.ru/2018/08/05/rg-publikuet-zakon-o-zavershenii-nalogovogo-manevra-v-neftianke.html
And copying footcloths into thousands of words, so the moderators will demolish vividly, and no one is interested.

[vitvit123]

I have no wounds, I am absolutely healthy and my appetite is excellent! it’s just amazing how you feel about what you say! it’s strange how you don’t understand it ... so many deliberate distortions, distortions ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vitvit123

so many deliberate distortions

Yeah. I wrap fat in pancakes and eat tomatoes. I'm not going to dump all the information on the topic, because the whole article will turn out, not comment. But they don’t pay me for it.

[vitvit123]

Well, you are disingenuous again.
firstly, if you wrote a detailed commentary, it would have turned out with a different meaning,
Secondly, the article will not work, at most a few lines, but true, but this is not included in your plans, you deliberately misinterpret everything ..
Thirdly, look above, I inserted a large article, no problems with the moderators!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vitvit123

look above I inserted a large article, no problems with the moderators!

So paste it into the "Add article" column.

[vitvit123]

Bottom line: again tried to throw ...! Until next time ..

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Mordvin 3

I read, you are my bath sheet, I read.

Yes, not only yours, Volodya!

[Alexga]

Tell me if in the subject. Why should the price of oil be brought to world prices for the domestic market? This sharply raises the cost of production of petroleum products, gasoline and more. Voluntarily worsen their competitiveness. I understand that there is compensation. But why the hell is so hard to do? I think that supplies to Belarus are not the main reason. Maybe earlier it was more profitable for oil producers to drive oil abroad, rather than for their refiners?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: AlexGa

Tell me if in the subject. Why should the price of oil be brought to world prices for the domestic market? This sharply raises the cost of production of petroleum products, gasoline and more. Voluntarily worsen their competitiveness.

This is one of the requirements of the WTO, which everyone knew very well when they entered there. They said from every iron that nothing good could come of it.

[Alexga]

[quote = Mordvin 3] [quote = AlexGa] Tell me if in the subject. Why should the price of oil be brought to world prices for the domestic market? This sharply raises the cost of production of petroleum products, gasoline and more. Voluntarily worsen their competitiveness. [/ Quote]
This is one of the requirements of the WTO, which everyone knew very well when they entered there. From each iron they said that nothing good will come of it. [/ Quote
And we still laugh at the Ukrainians with their signing the association with the EU

[Olezhek]

Tell me if in the subject. Why should the price of oil be brought to world prices for the domestic market? This sharply raises the cost of production of petroleum products, gasoline and more.

This is an internal affair of Russia
foreigners it does not concern

[Alexga]

Olezhek, good morning.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Lukashenko is simply an ignoramus and a liar. I do not even want to comment on his nonsense.

Cheaper than oil and gas abroad, and not in Russia - well, so buy there, why arrange a tantrum ?!

[vitvit123]

Quote: professor

Quote: knn54

Insanity or provocation?

But in fact, at what prices does Moscow sell gas and oil to Minsk?

Moreover, the global price of Urals oil, according to Russian statistics, in August amounted to $ 434 / t - $ 100 more than the price of supplies to Belarus. The average Urals global price over the past 12 months is $ 485 / t, which is $ 118 more expensive than for Belarus. Thus, Belarus buys oil from Russia by almost a quarter cheaper. That in millions of tons of oil gives Belarus a very good profit. The difference in favor of Belarus is due to the fact that Russia, under a bilateral agreement, supplies oil to Belarus without levying an export duty. In August, the amount of this duty is more than $ 90 / t (in July - $ 100 / t).

Read in full: https://banki24.by/news/3704-skolko-belarus-importiruet-nefti

Everything is very popularly written in this link ..

[Freeman]

vitvit123 Today, 13:33
Read in full: https://banki24.by/news/3704-skolko-belarus-importiruet-nefti

Everything is very popularly written in this link ..

Read

From 2019 to the 2024th, for 6 years, Russia plans to gradually reduce the price difference to zero through the so-called "Tax maneuver"then Belarus will have to buy oil at a price close to the world’s price (cheaper only due to logistics). This will cause significant damage to the budget of Belarus.

And what is the answer? And in response
- "The Empire Strikes Back" (c) / sarcasm /

President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko signed a decree on the introduction of a new tax on profits of companies engaged in the transit pumping of oil and oil products through pipelines passing through the country. This was reported by BelTA, citing the press service of the president.

According to the agency, the income tax rate for such organizations is set at 50%.

[vitvit123]

from 2019 to 2024 !!! but until 2019 didn’t I buy for 20 years? for 20 years, how much money has grabbed on our oil ... the link indicates 2018, 2019, what a claim! in 2020 Belarus still doesn’t buy anything from us !!!! or do you not know this? ....

[Freeman]

Quote: vitvit123

from 2019 to 2024 !!! but until 2019 didn’t I buy for 20 years? for 20 years, how much money has grabbed on our oil ... the link indicates 2018, 2019, what a claim! in 2020 Belarus still doesn’t buy anything from us !!!! or do you not know this? ....

I actually bought from 1992 and continues to buy in 2020.
So far it has been possible to agree on supplies for January with two Russian companies, which did not demand an additional $ 10 "premium" to the price per barrel. The main supplies are made by the Russneft company.

By the way, it seems that the Russian government is trying to disassociate itself from negotiations on oil supplies to Belarus.

Oil prices for Belarus are set by companies of the two countries, not the Russian government, said Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak.

https://rg.ru/2020/01/10/kozak-pravitelstvo-rossii-ne-reguliruet-ceny-na-neft-dlia-belarusi.html

Now the meaning of the 50% tax on the profits of companies "carrying out transit pumping of oil and oil products" through the pipelines of the Republic of Belarus is clear.

That is, the Russian government de facto recognized the pumped oil as "private", not "state". And "Father" made "his move" in negotiations with "private traders" on the price of oil supplies to the Republic of Belarus.

for 20 years, how much money has grabbed on our oil ...

Not ours, but private. "Public property" in the Russian Federation - liquidated.

[vitvit123]

What claims then? What have I not written correctly or objectively? (about 2 months in the 20th year, it's nothing ...)
It looks like or doesn't it lyrics ...
I wrote not how much Russia has lost, but how much Belarus (Lukashenko’s regime) has raped! Be careful! And it's silly to bring screenshots of any interesting garbage ..

[Freeman]

Quote: vitvit123

What claims then? What have I not written correctly or objectively?

Yes, actually to you, no complaints.
The first comment was to the text of the article you proposed by reference.

about 2 months in the 20th year is nothing ...

"The bargaining continues." Actually this is the second comment.

[vitvit123]

And what is wrong with the text of the article?

[Freeman]

Quote: vitvit123

And what is wrong with the text of the article?

Yes, that's right.
The Russian Federation has arranged a "tax maneuver", as a result the Republic of Belarus loses money, which it already considers "its own".
In response, the Republic of Belarus introduces a 50% tax on profits of companies that pump oil through the territory of the Republic of Belarus.
That's all.

[vitvit123]

I got the impression that you want to correct me in something ...
and, if a dialogue has begun, the question is: does Belarus introduce a tax on the profits of its companies that pump oil products through the Republic of Belarus? how does this relate to us?

[Alexga]

I will add the end of the article to which you made a link

With the rise in price of Russian oil for Belarus to close to world values, Russia may lose its status as the main supplier of oil to Belarus if the authorities of the latter create a supply chain from other regions, for example, from Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan or Arab countries. But in any case, Belarus’s losses due to the tax maneuver in Russia will be huge. This is the price of the one-sided development of Belarus, towards Russia.

Read in full: https://banki24.by/news/3704-skolko-belarus-importiruet-nefti

[vitvit123]

But why do I need the end of the link? I read it! should I regret Lukashenko or what? or believe that he will carry it through the Baltic ports with wagons? then you can rejoice at the tribalt, grab money for transportation, transportation!

[Alexga]

I'm just about objectivity.

[vitvit123]

So what is not objective in my passage? The question was about the price, I gave an excerpt with the prices of 18 g. And 19 g. . How does the end of the article affect objectivity?

[Alexga]

Well, what about? At the end of the article it is said what is happening, why and how to end. The question is not just the price.

[vitvit123]

The professor asked: who knows at what price the Republic of Belarus buys oil from Russia, I replied. The professor’s question was current about the price! you read carefully the above branch ... what is happening everyone sees what will happen I do not know yet. what claims then?

[Olezhek]

With the rise in price of Russian oil for Belarus close to world values, Russia may lose its status as the main supplier of oil to Belarus

And do not give a damn about this status

[Ru_Na]

Recently, Old Man is more and more like a scandalous woman, screaming, trying to get more preferences on the old terms, although Moscow has clearly indicated that there will be no movement towards real integration of the Union Treaty, there will be no benefits for Minsk, the freebie is over!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Ru_Na

Dad recently more and more like a scandalous woman, screaming,

I have heard this for about 20 years.

[Krasnoyarsk]

= According to Lukashenko, Russia offers Belarus oil at prices that are "higher than world", =
= Lukashenko also criticized the situation with the purchase of gas from Russia. He claims that our country sells gas to Minsk at prices "three times higher than those" at which blue fuel is supplied to Germany. Of course, this situation does not suit him either. =
Let a stone be thrown at me who believes that Luke said just that.
Someone really wants to escalate our negative attitude towards Belarus.
I don’t know what is really going on there. I believe that the debate goes around the price. But for Luke to say these very words, I don’t believe it.

[gost2012]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

= According to Lukashenko, Russia offers Belarus oil at prices that are "higher than world", =
= Lukashenko also criticized the situation with the purchase of gas from Russia. He claims that our country sells gas to Minsk at prices "three times higher than those" at which blue fuel is supplied to Germany. Of course, this situation does not suit him either. =
Let a stone be thrown at me who believes that Luke said just that.
Someone really wants to escalate our negative attitude towards Belarus.
I don’t know what is really going on there. I believe that the debate goes around the price. But for Luke to say these very words, I don’t believe it.

https://news.tut.by/economics/668041.html
The stone went straight to the head

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Gost2012

https://news.tut.by/economics/668041.html
The stone went straight to the head

Where is the stone? All the words attributed to Luke are supposedly quotes. What did he really say? What, his speech, where he said these words, was not captured by the camera? Why is there no video link?
Do you believe zhurnalyugam? Me not!

[Alexga]

For direct links to the Belta.by resource, I received two warnings. So the local resource does not allow for exact words; I don’t understand how to discuss it without a source. Although if you create a normal squabble, then everything is OK.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: AlexGa

For direct links to the official resource Belta.by

Yes, I found without links -
= Today, the country buys gas from Russia at a price of $ 129 per thousand cubic meters, and next year its price will be reduced to $ 127, which became possible after Minsk returned to Moscow $ 761 million in debt. =
If you believe the words of the magazine, Germany receives gas from Russia at a price of $ 43 per 1000 cubic meters. And you want me to believe that? I mean that allegedly Luka said that he buys gas three times more expensive than Germany.

[Alexga]

No, the question here is the final price. The cost of transit and more. There is a link to the broadcast, listen, the truth is long and tedious.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Today, the country buys gas from Russia at a price of $ 129 per thousand cubic meters, and next year its price will be reduced to $ 127, which became possible after Minsk returned to Moscow $ 761 million in debt.

It was written in 2018 year.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Today, the country buys gas from Russia at a price of $ 129 per thousand cubic meters, and next year its price will be reduced to $ 127, which became possible after Minsk returned to Moscow $ 761 million in debt.

It was written in 2018 year.

This does not change the essence

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

This does not change the essence

It changes. For 20 year new prices. Personally, I have not found.

[Krasnoyarsk]

= Lukashenko also criticized the situation with the purchase of gas from Russia. He claims that our country sells gas to Minsk at prices "three times higher than those" at which blue fuel is supplied to Germany. =
You do not understand what it is about. Whatever prices are in year 18, Luke allegedly said that they are three times higher than for Germany. And I absolutely do not believe that Luke uttered these very words. That's what it is about.

[gost2012]

Well, do not believe in vain, he said. That is exactly what he said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL56eov-puQ

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Gost2012

Well, do not believe in vain, he said. That is exactly what he said.

What are you listening to? Booty? I quote Luka's words: "Gazprom EARNS three times more in Belarus than in Germany." Where are we talking about the gas price for Belarus three times higher than for Germany?
Luke, of course, is still a bug, - bites and then licks the wound.

[gost2012]

Such an invention in Belarus is impossible, in principle, by any publication, this is RB

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Gost2012

Such an invention in Belarus is impossible, in principle, by any publication, this is RB

It turned out to be quite possible. Listen carefully to Luke’s speech at the link provided by Gost2012

[xomaNN]

There was (he is still alive) such a president of Ukraine - Kravchuk. A big fan of "going through the raindrops and not getting wet". He started as a Ukrainian secretary of the Central Committee (CPSU) on ideology and hajala the Nazis, then from 91 he was already for the Nazis. And maneuvered so long.

And the Belarusian "father" walks the same path

[ochakow703]

But really the Old Man is right. To some extent, most likely the biggest, in the discord with Ukraine, business Thieves on both sides are to blame, they are all few, all are few, there is no way to grab popular good. And now, with Belarus, the same parsley is ripening. Because of a handful of insatiable freaks, the peoples quarrel.

[Idunavs]

Lukashenko is doing everything possible and impossible, so that Belarusians would not want to go to Russia!

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Idunawa

Lukashenko is doing everything possible and impossible, so that Belarusians would not want to go to Russia!

maybe right?

[GenNick]

Believe me, well, not drawn to your bourgeoisie ...

[Idunavs]

Quote: GenNick

Believe me, well, not drawn to your bourgeoisie.

I do not believe that more than half want it. Sometimes I myself know everything.

[Operator]

Rygorych is clearly not good at arithmetic - the market price of Russian oil (including the export duty of the Russian Federation), which has been in effect for fans of the Bandera supporters since 2020, is higher than some kind of "world" price.

[Fan-fan]

The bottom line is this: Putin has decided to take on the mission of reviving Russia's territorial greatness. Belarus is seen as a part of the empire, as its periphery, over which political control and "Russian order" must be restored. And besides, if you manage to do this before 2024, then the number of terms of Putin's presidency will be reset - the state is new, which means new terms, since Putin has no other chance to keep the throne.
For this, and pressured Belarus.

[75 Sergey]

Do you smoke? You get off hard drugs.

[Olezhek]

The bottom line is this: Putin has decided to take on the mission of reviving Russia's territorial greatness. Belarus is seen as part of the empire, as its periphery, over which political control and "Russian order

do not retell Belarusian propaganda and you will be happy

For this, and pressured Belarus.

And why did the "fraternal Belarusians" supply equipment to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Syrian Democrat?

[Sandro1977]

In the article I did not see the main thing, the price that Lukashenko did not suit
...

[75 Sergey]

The beginning of the end of "friendship"?
Well, maybe this is the best.

[Azimuth]

Friendship Old Man and Putin ?? Ha ha ha This is repeated every year. This friendship will be after 2024. Normal bargaining.

[Olezhek]

Friendship Old Man and Putin ?? Ha ha ha This is repeated every year. This friendship will be after 2024. Normal bargaining.

Dear comrade, I specially inform you that Russians are not a people of merchants.
Alas...
Your address was wrong
Good luck

[Azimuth]

Do not bother the people with the ruling elite. Do not pretend like We have democracy. Everything that is traded for both Belarus and the Russian will definitely not reach, everyone will share for you.

[rotkiv04]

That's interesting, he just mows or idiot

[75 Sergey]

And what else is left for him to do, he has no other opportunities, he has not yet become for the Americans his "... son".

[Grandfather-Shchukar]

Lukashenko offended by Russia

I would be offended too .. Who presses on Old Man? Our oligarch with suitcases of dollars ... Doesn’t let these Lukashenka’s crooks into his country, and there’s bullying in all respects ..
I remember four or five years ago there were attempts at raider seizures of Belarusian state-owned enterprises (they tried to bankrupt, I don’t remember the name) .. But Lukashenko sent them out of the country and warned, once again I’ll plant for a long time ..
And after that, the persecution of Belarus, etc., began ...
There are too tidbits of property left in the hands of the state and they work well .. THAT is the point "
Keep the Belarusians brand, you are the most persistent of the entire USSR !!!!

[Olezhek]

I remember four or five years ago there were attempts at raider seizures of Belarusian state-owned enterprises (they tried to bankrupt, I don’t remember the name) .. But Lukashenko sent them out of the country and warned, once again, I’ll plant for a long time.

There long ago, everything died.
There are no super-profitable state enterprises there for a long time.
Most of the "state" tightly sit on subsidies from the budget and debts are regularly written off.

[Grandfather-Shchukar]

Quote: Olezhek

There long ago, everything died.
There are no super-profitable state enterprises there for a long time.
Most of the "state" tightly sit on subsidies from the budget and debts are regularly written off.

offer maidan?

[Olezhek]

offer maidan?

Comrade Solovyov, log in

[Olezhek]

Attempts at raider seizures of Belarusian state enterprises

In agriculture, the majority of former collective and state farms are unprofitable. Without financial support, the vast majority of large and medium-sized farms in Belarus are not viable. At the same time, farmers actually subsidize the Russian consumer.

Read in full: https://banki24.by/news/3903-v-selskom-hozyaystve-ubytochno

Belarusian industry is groaning under the burden of debt and has begun to lose profits. Industrialists of Belarus have accumulated huge volumes of problem liabilities. Who will repay overdue loans and repay lost profits?

Read in full: https://banki24.by/news/3900-belorusskaya-promyshlennost-stonet-pod

Exports collapsed, while imports grew: Belarus' foreign trade in October went negative - the second time in 2019. Infographics October 2019 in foreign trade was marked by a sharp decline in exports, both in the commodity sector and in the sector of foreign economic services.

Read in full: https://banki24.by/news/3863-eksport-ruhnul-a-import

[Alexga]

Oleg, and what, resource of IE Linnik A.A. is a reliable source? Or is it a simple calculation for a sucker? Your method is strange. I decided to ask about your work here. Honestly, I didn't understand. You criticize the events in Belarus, also about Russia. No, of course, if this is your job, then there are no questions. There is work, it is being done, then you need to get banknotes for it. It is legal. But what about your personal position. And I already thought that it was Lipser from Newsland who showed up here in a man's guise. In style, it looks like, well, Irina is a staff member of Novaya Gazeta, and who are you. Judging by your posts about the rallies of dissent in Minsk from Tutbay, I came to the conclusion that you are not a resident of Belarus. Or everything is simpler: "And Baba Yaga is against!"

[Olezhek]

Keep the Belarusians brand, you are the most persistent of the entire USSR !!!!

You probably do not remember because of age, but I will remind you - the USSR lived on its own money.
He did not engage in begging and theft.

[O. Bender]

Something, lately a lot about Belarus, they are preparing a maydown there too? But the father is being played out, there will be prices for him in Alabama and not in Smolensk.

[Grandfather-Shchukar]

Quote: O. Bender

Something, lately a lot about Belarus, are preparing maydown there too?

Guess you .. hehe

Quote: O. Bender

But father will be played, he will have prices in Alabama and not in Smolensk.

Well, don’t know who will come to power .. And then we should be gee gee
Old Man is not opposed to Russia in this matter, but to the oligarchy, whom he had patched pinch for a long time .. Here they are angry and yell to the whole world with the Jews .. hehe
Hang on to Old Man and the people of Belarus and do not let our thieves in hitch with the west .. Otherwise, the end will come to you and us later ..

[Olezhek]

.. And then we should be gee gee
Old Man is not opposed to Russia in this matter, but to the oligarchy, to which he had patched pinchaa for a long time ..

Sing beautifully, great power
But tell me, dear man: Whose Sevastopol is he?
Russian Ali Bandera?
And shaw there the holy and incorruptible father will say about this?
Eh?

[gost2012]

Quote: Grandfather-Shchukar

Quote: O. Bender

Something, lately a lot about Belarus, are preparing maydown there too?

Guess you .. hehe

Quote: O. Bender

But father will be played, he will have prices in Alabama and not in Smolensk.

Well, don’t know who will come to power .. And then we should be gee gee
Old Man is not opposed to Russia in this matter, but to the oligarchy, whom he had patched pinch for a long time .. Here they are angry and yell to the whole world with the Jews .. hehe
Hang on to Old Man and the people of Belarus and do not let our thieves in hitch with the west .. Otherwise, the end will come to you and us later ..

Rare nonsense

[svoit]

The president of a neighboring state is convinced that his republic should receive oil at the same price at which Smolensk Oblast receives it. True, why - it is not very clear:

So why an article if the author does not understand anything? Understand already ... and then write articles.
If you wish, you can always agree, for example, refined products sold at Russian prices for oil are sold only in Russia and Belarus, and the question is removed.

[Olezhek]

If you wish, you can always agree, for example, refined products sold at Russian prices for oil are sold only in Russia and Belarus, and the question is removed.

Google about "solvents" and "Belarusian shrimps"
Learn a lot of new things.

[GenNick]

Quote: Pushkar

Quote: Arzt

But in fact, at what prices does Moscow sell gas and oil to Minsk?

127 dollars per 1000 cubic meters.
To Germany - 172.
World average - 210.

Gazprom is going to raise the price of Minsk to 141,1 dollars per 1000 cubic meters. The average price of gas exports in 2019 is $ 240-250 per 1000 cubic meters. So what does Rygoritch want?

Quote: bar

Come on, don’t be afraid, no one will be banned. You are quite politically correct. Here, even the terry Zionists no one bans.
And the rules here are really strange ...

Oh, they banned me ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: GenNick

Oh, they banned me ...

And for what?

[GenNick]

Are you really interested? or just talk?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: GenNick

Are you really interested?

Since you are scribbling here, then no one has banned you.

[Olezhek]

Since you are scribbling here, then no one has banned you.

He has a hunch that this could happen.

[GenNick]

Olezhek, how naive you are ... Live in what century ?, the second time the problem is to register?
And where did the USSR Veteran go?

[GenNick]

, ... the machine gunner scribbles, for a blue handkerchief ... ''
All, for just talking '' !!!!!

[Olezhek]

Oh, they banned me ...

Oh, oh, and then they killed me ...

I am writing from a burning tank / from a deep ban ...

[GenNick]

Quote: ochakow703

But really the Old Man is right. To some extent, most likely the biggest, in the discord with Ukraine, business Thieves on both sides are to blame, they are all few, all are few, there is no way to grab popular good. And now, with Belarus, the same parsley is ripening. Because of a handful of insatiable freaks, the peoples quarrel.

And you are aware that today the Decree on environmental collection was signed in the amount of 50% of the price for oil transit through Belarus. Nothing personal, everything is like in the world.

[123456789]

Russia has only two allies: its army and navy The words of the Russian emperor Alexander III Peacemaker (1845-1894), in which he expressed his foreign policy credo.

[Alexga]

To say that, he said the truth was that there were no victories of the army and navy after such statements, right up to the collapse of the Empire.

[V1er]

Just leave it here. It's about gas, but I'm sure about the same song about oil. Here they say about the gas price, you can compare how much higher than the world average.

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Old Man Lukashenko wants everything for free. Is he special?

[GenNick]

Quote: VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK

Old Man Lukashenko wants everything for free. Is he special?

No, special on Red Square you distribute pennies to your slaves ...

[GenNick]

Quote: Olezhek

Oh, they banned me ...

Oh, oh, and then they killed me ...

I am writing from a burning tank / from a deep ban ...

My friend, did your mother teach you how to evade ???

[cdrt]

A liar and a parasite ...

[GenNick]

Am I ???

[NF68]

Something is wrong Old Man is on account of prices above world prices ..