"Jews in Madagascar!" How Poland got rid of Jews

Hitler and Ambassador Lipsky

Poland - only for Poles

As you know, in 1918 a new revived state of Poland appeared on the map of Europe, in which the national interests of the indigenous Polish population were put at the forefront. At the same time, the others were a priori in a secondary position, which, in particular, resulted in a series of Jewish pogroms, the bloodiest of which occurred in Pinsk and Lviv. These were large-scale stocks. In 1919, the American Jewish Congress at the Paris Peace Conference tried to call on the world community to influence the Polish leadership in connection with outbreaks of ardent anti-Semitism. This did not produce any effect, but only strengthened the Poles' faith in the world Zionist conspiracy. In fairness, it is worth noting that the discontent of the Polish population was caused, among other things, by the excessive demands of the Jews. They tried to obtain special rights in Poland: exemption from military service, payment of taxes, creation of special Jewish courts and schools. As a result, the spontaneous wave of anti-Semitism of 1919-1920 was able to curb the Polish leadership, while at the same time receiving an excellent tool to influence the creation of Poles. It turned out that intolerance towards Jews and nationalism resonated in the hearts of the radical population of Poland.

Jozef Lipsky

There have always been many Jews in Poland. From 1921 to 1931, the number of Jews from 2,85 million increased to 3,31 million. On average, the share of this people in the country's population was 10%, which was one of the largest indicators in the world. Until 1930, it was relatively safe for Polish Jews to be in the country, despite the fact that representatives of the nation were not allowed to enter the civil service, as well as to the positions of teachers and university professors. In all Jewish schools that receive state funding, teaching was exclusively in Polish. In the 20s and 30s, Polish officials gradually instigated public hysteria regarding the significance of the Jews. It is important to understand one thing: since that time, the Polish leadership has begun the systematic accusation of Jews in almost all the troubles of the country and people. They were charged with corruption, clogging of the Polish native culture and education, as well as subversive activities against the country and the people, cooperation with enemy Germany and the USSR. The Poles began to reach the highest temperatures of anti-Semitic hysteria since 1935, when the country was covered by an economic crisis. It was very convenient for the Jews to declare the culprits of all troubles. In 1936, Prime Minister Felitsian Slava-Skladkovsky very clearly formulated the goals of the government regarding the Jewish population:

"The economic war against the Jews by all means, but without the use of force."

Obviously, he was afraid of the reaction of the United States to possible pogroms.

Felician Slava-Skladkovsky

Besides his anti-Semitism, Felician entered history countries as an ardent advocate of sanitary control. The latrines during his reign were painted white, which is why they were called "glories". The official government line regarding Jews was held by the Catholic Church, as well as the vast majority of political associations with the exception of the Polish Socialist Party. And when Hitler came to power in Germany, the Polish Germans, obsessed with the idea of ​​revenge and revenge for defeat in the world war, added fuel to the fire of anti-Semitism.

"Black Bloody Palm Sunday"

Yesterday, Palm Sunday, local Jewry organized an orgy against Germany and all German. After the gathering in the cinema, about 500 Poles, bribed by Jews, armed with sticks and poles and rushed to smash the editors of the Lodzer Zeitung ... They were stopped by the police. Then the Jew who led them ordered to move to the editorial office of Freie Presse ...

So the foreign policy department of the National Socialist German Workers' Party evaluated the causes of the German-Jewish confrontation that took place in Lodz on April 9, 1933. Allegedly, the Polish-Jewish Committee called on:

“The Prussian hydra ... is ready for new crimes ... for its own German gangster culture! We call on the entire Polish population to boycott the enemy! Not a single Polish zloty should go to Germany! Finish with German publications that provoke our national feelings! We will turn Lodz into a city of Polish interests and Polish statehood. ”

This was an example of one of the first and last anti-fascist actions of the Jewish population of Poland against the Germans, sympathizing with the Third Reich. On April 9, 1933, anti-German actions took place in Lodz and several cities in Central Poland, which resulted in inciting even greater hatred of the Jewish population of the country. The most important on that day were a demonstrative abuse of Nazi symbols right at the German Consulate in Lodz, the assault on a German gymnasium, a publishing house and several newspaper editorial offices. It is still unknown about losses on both sides, but the epithet "bloody" that Palm Sunday was not accidental. The leader of the Lodz German People’s Party, August Utts, blamed this on the head of the Rosenblatt Zionist organization, although representatives of the Polish radical organization of the Western Frontier Defense (Związek Obrony Kresów Zachodnich) were among the main instigators. The result of this confrontation was one: the Germans even more hated the Jews living in the neighborhood in Poland and subsequently found more and more support in this among the radical Poles. So, a German from Lodz Bernard, reporting on a trip to his hometown in January 1934, emphasized:

“Jews have far more rights in Poland than Germans. On the train, I heard stories that Pilsudski is married to a Jewess, so the Jews call him "our father-in-law." I retold this to my old friend in Lodz, and he confirmed that such rumors have been circulating here for a long time. ”

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The German consulate in Lodz writes in one of the reports after Bloody Sunday:

"Jews form a 17-18 million hydra cancerous tumor on the body of Christianity."

And in November 1938, the Nazi ambassador in Warsaw reflects on the Jewish pogroms in his homeland:

"The German retaliation against Jewry was perceived by the Polish press and Polish society absolutely calmly."

Madagascar Plan

The first plans to oust Jews from Poland date back to 1926, when the country's leadership seriously thought about moving all the objectionable to Madagascar. Then it was a French colony, and the Polish ambassador in Paris, Count Khlopovsky, even asked the political leaders of France to transport a thousand peasants to an African island. In the conversation, the French made it clear that the living conditions in Madagascar are very difficult and, in order to avoid the genocide of the Jews, the Poles will have to spend money on keeping such a mass of people away from home. At that moment, the solution of the "Jewish question" in Poland was postponed - the French actually refused their Eastern European friends.

Mechislav Lepetskiy (in uniform) with a commission before sending to Madagascar

The rebirth idea of ​​the resettlement of more than three million Jewish population in Africa found in 1937. Warsaw then received permission from Paris to work on the island of a special commission whose goal was to prepare the territory for emigration. It is noteworthy that the Jews in Poland were already so bad and so afraid of Nazism that was gaining strength that the commission included representatives of Zionist organizations - lawyer Leon Alter and agricultural engineer Solomon Duc. From the Polish government, the commission included Mieczysław Lepiecki, former adjutant of Jozef Pilsudski. Then the slogan “Jews to Madagascar!” (“Żydzi na Madagaskar”) was popular in a nationalist country - anti-Semitic Poles were eager to send the first 50-60 thousand Jews to a semi-wild African island as soon as possible.

Madagascar, according to the idea of ​​the Poles, was to become the new Palestine for the Jews

Naturally, according to the results of the expedition, Lepetskiy was most positively inclined - he even suggested moving the first Jews (about 25-35 thousand) to Ankaizan region in the north of the island. Against the Ankaizan region was Solomon Duc, whom he proposed to transport to the central part of Madagascar no more than 100 people. Lawyer Leon Alter did not like the island either - he allowed no more than 2 thousand Jews to emigrate to it. However, by and large, this whole operation seems to be nothing more than a demonstration farce, since the Polish government, in principle, did not have the financial ability to carry out such a massive relocation. Perhaps one of the adherents of the Madagascar Plan, Polish Foreign Minister Jozef, hoped to “chip in” all anti-Semitic Europe to emigrate Jews?

Be that as it may, the Nazis enjoyed watching this theater with pleasure. Hitler told Ambassador Jozef Lipsky that together they would be able to resettle the Jews in Madagascar or some other remote colony. It remains only to persuade England and France. Actually, for the implementation of the "Madagascar Plan" by the hands of the Nazis, Lipsky promised to erect a monument to Hitler during his life in Warsaw.

The very idea of ​​the resettlement of the Jewish population of Europe in Madagascar came to the Germans for the first time at the end of the 1940th century, but the results of the First World War, which were disappointing for Germany, prevented it from being realized. Already during World War II in 1942, the Germans planned to resettle one million Jews to the island annually. Here they were already prevented by the employment of the Navy in the confrontation with Britain, and in XNUMX the Allies occupied Madagascar. Many historians, incidentally, suggest that the failure of the German “Madagascar Plan” pushed the Nazis to the Holocaust.

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

As for the cooperation of Zionists and German Nazis:

There was even a medal about this.

[Same lech]

Baron von Mildenstein, accompanied by one of the leaders of the Berlin Zionists, Kurt Tuchler and his wife, visited several Jewish settlements during his six-month journey through the Holy Land, which he wrote in a very friendly tone in a series of articles in Angrif under the general title "The journey of the National Socialist in Palestine." He praised the achievements of the Zionists and saw in their activities a possible solution to the "Jewish question" for Germany. The Baron wrote: "A Jew who cultivates his soil himself becomes a completely new Jew." Goebbels praised the Baron’s writings so highly that he even ordered a commemorative medal depicting the star of David on one side and the swastika on the other

https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/1223849/post84756870/
Marriage of convenience was even temporary.

[Krasnodar]

This medal was released in 1934. A year earlier, even before Hitler came to power, the Nazi Middlestein and the German Zionist Tohler arrived in Palestine. Middlestein liked the Jews involved in agricultural production, Goebbels saw in sending Jews from Germany a chance to get rid of them quickly - having pocketed their money, real estate and business, to Tokhler, who until 1933 was a judge, didn’t like the idea anymore - he was first dismissed from his post , like tens of thousands of other tribesmen. The Nazis, meanwhile, with Jewish money, organized a school for agricultural work for Jewish youth, which was closed in 1939, with the introduction of restrictions by the British on Jewish emigration. In addition, in 1933, after the Reichstag elections, Jews in Western Europe and the United States called for a boycott of German goods and services. No country in the world supported the boycott. That’s the whole story of “Zionist cooperation with the Nazis.”

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Krasnodar

The Nazis, meanwhile, with Jewish money, organized an agricultural work school for Jewish youth, which was closed in 1939, with the introduction of restrictions by the British on Jewish emigration

Well, even from the commentary it is clear that cooperation continued after the 34th. Moreover, a Jew does not yet mean a Zionist.

[Krasnodar]

Yes, it ended before the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact.

[Operator]

The medal was issued by the Ministry of Propaganda of the Third Reich in honor of the cooperation of the Zionist organizations of Germany and the SS troops in training Jewish terrorists with a total of more than 50 thousand people and sending them to British Mandate Palestine under the guise of immigrants.

The collaboration of Zionists and Nazis ended in September (and not in August) 1939 after the start of WWII and the ban on Britain leaving the Jews from the Third Reich. France, Belgium and the Netherlands also acted, fearing an influx of Jewish terrorists into their colonies - Madagascar, etc.

[Krasnodar]

50 thousand terrorists from?
The Jewish population of Germany at that time was 600 thousand people, including women, children and the elderly. Among them, theoretically, it was possible to recruit 50 thousand people of draft age, only saboteurs from them it was possible to prepare well, 10 thousand individuals of both sexes, with a large percentage of marriage
This is the answer to pearl number one
More precisely, Pearl Harbor
Second - Britain controlled the Third Reich migration policy ?? M-dya, it happens ... It forbade directly another country to release its citizens.
Next - The White Paper prohibiting the admission of Jews to Palestine was released in May 1939.
The Molotov Ribentrop Pact - at the end of August of the same year.
You., This ... learn the story)).
But. The leader of the national movement of Palestinian Arabs, Hajj Amin El Husseini, indeed created both the Muslim SS battalion and the mountain division from Yugoslav co-religionists who terrorized Serbs and Montenegrins during the war. So you do not need to invent fairy tales and change everything from head to foot - the Syrian, Palestinian and Iraqi Arabs, along with the Persians, were pronations. Zionists-naturally against.

[Operator]

50 thousand migrants, saboteurs - from among German Jews of both sexes aged 18 to 30 years, of course.

The anti-Hitler coalition states completely stopped accepting Jewish emigrants from the Third Reich immediately after the WWII - in connection with the closure of land borders with neighboring countries, Germany tried for some time to arrange the departure of Jewish terrorists by sea, but because of the refusal to accept such ships by all countries, including neutral Turkey , was forced to stop exporting terrorism.

Why drag on the issue under discussion also the Arab allies of the Third Reich, who had territorial graters with the Jewish allies of the Third Reich (such as the territorial graters of German and Polish Nazis until September 1939?

To understand the situation, read the enthusiastic comments and greetings of the Jewish press in Germany after Hitler was appointed Chancellor in January 1933.

[Krasnodar]

50 thousand migrants of saboteurs? Do you understand the meaning of the word saboteur?
Even if you cook it for six months according to an enhanced program, without dropping out on people who are a priori incapable of normally shooting and thinking at the same time, not to mention intelligence work - i.e. the chance that 2 out of 10 caught will reveal the entire network - out of 600 thousand. With the most underestimated requirements, you will not gain 10 - this is the first.
Secondly, what kind of keeping in Germany 50 thousand Jews - enemies of the Reich, by definition - able to engage in sabotage activities? ))) There are 50 of them already a lot.
Closing land borders - Turkey - huh ... you cheer me up in the morning - Italy, which has a land border with Anschlussen Austria, could not put them on steamboats - and ... that? The Mediterranean Sea, no Turkey on the way to Palestine;) Who is this babble designed for, please tell me?
Yeah - the Jewish allies of the Third Reich - found the Jewish Liberation Army with Vlaserbaum at the head
The Arabs had graters with three groups - Franco-British colonialists, Zionist Jews and communist atheists. Hence the pro-Nazi orientation.
The reaction of the Jewish press - the NSDAP program clearly stated that no Jew can be part of the NATION. Therefore, his rise to power was received with tremendous enthusiasm.

[Operator]

50 thousand Jewish terrorists - this is just cannon fodder to seize the territory of British Mandate Palestine and the departure of all other German and then European Jews.

Hitler’s actions towards Jews until 1940 were based on the comprehensive support of German Nazis from Jewish bankers in the USA and Europe, who pumped up the Third Reich with loans and technology to channel German aggression towards the USSR, which had previously withdrawn from them after the defeat of the Trotskyist opposition in the ranks of the CPSU ( b) in the late 1920s.

Only after the Third Reich violated agreements with Jewish U.S. bankers and dealt the first blow to France and Britain (fearing a situation of 1914-18 - a war on two fronts), did these bankers support the anti-Nazi and anti-Zionist policies of the Churchill and Roosevelt governments. The genocide of European Jews, starting in 1941 from the Third Reich, was caused precisely by revenge for the cessation of support from transnational Jewish capital.

It was the support of Zionists on the part of Jewish capital, as well as the cooperation of German Zionists with German Nazis that caused the USSR to refuse to accept European Jews (primarily represented by SS terrorists) on its territory.

Once again, the Zionists enthusiastically welcomed Hitler's rise to power, since only he could ensure the mass emigration of European Jews to Palestine (the idea of ​​fixing the Zionists).

[Krasnodar]

1) That is, did the Jewish liberation army exist to capture Palestine with 50 snouts of both sexes? That is, the combined-arms exercises, the type of troops, tudemo-sydemo were carried out? )))
And as in modern historiography nothing is known about such an army and its training ...
2) Jewish bankers - all sorts of Rothschilds and Co. there supported Hitler right up to the 40th year? I generally adore this fairy tale - by the way, at least one American Jewish banker of the United States of those years, name? ;)
So far, Jews in the board of commercial American banks are about 20 percent - their niche is investment banks, because they are now reluctantly allowed into this niche, and even more so then)). And Trotsky, with his idea of ​​a world revolution, was ... an agent of Jewish capital?
3) How much porridge in your head And for the sake of what five or so large European bankers were to finance Hitler, popular among sludge? For the sake of ruining your own business in Austria already in the 38th? Not to mention Germany on the 33rd))
4) Yes, you are a merry fellow - simply the USSR did not want to accept a bunch of bourgeois elements on its territory, of which there were an absolute majority among European Jews. )))
5) Zionists? Yeah - especially Ben Gurion and Jabotigsky That is, the leader of the left and the leader of the right, respectively. You would read them for the sake of interest - there is a lot of literature in the language available to you (I think the only language available to you)

[Han Tengri]

Quote: Operator

Hitler’s actions towards Jews until 1940 were based on the comprehensive support of German Nazis from the Jewish bankers of the USA and Europe, who pumped up the Third Reich with loans and technology to channel German aggression towards the USSR,

"Kristallnacht", apparently, was arranged so that the "Jewish bankers of the USA" would not even have a shadow of doubt that the main enemy of the Third Reich is the USSR and only the USSR! Yes?

[Operator]

"Kristallnacht" was spent with the aim of forming among German Jews, under the strict guidance of Zionist organizations, a burning desire to move to Palestine "even as a stuffed animal, at least as a carcass" (a Jewish anecdote from the late USSR).

[gsev]

Quote: Operator

50 thousand migrants, saboteurs - from among German Jews of both sexes aged 18 to 30 years, of course.

I was surprised at the inability of people to use simple arithmetic to check quantitative indicators.
Let us take the number of Jews in Germany 565 for 000. Assume an average life expectancy of 1933 years, suppose that men and women among the Jewish population of Germany have an equal number of people aged 60 to 18 years. Then, with the help of Excel, it turns out that the number of Jewish men in Germany was about 30. That is, in your opinion, 56% of the men in the age category of Jews you indicated under Hitler deserved to serve in foreign special forces, were suitable for such a health service, capable of learning foreign languages? Good. This is true. But where is the historical information about the actions of these saboteurs? L. Farago wrote most fully about the work of the Abwehr in Western Europe. As far as I remember, in his opinion, the most successful sabotage activity by Abwehr agents was carried out by the Ukrainian Radzievsky group. Moreover, the FBI did not notice the activities of this group.

[Operator]

The figure of the trained young German Jews I took from a profile article on the Internet. The training was not conducted by Abwehr (a division of the Wehrmacht), but by the SD (a division of the SS),

Training in diversionary work was carried out in parallel with training in agricultural specialties. Therefore, the move of German Jews to Palestine took place under the legend of the agrarian development of unused lands. The goal was the transition to active action against the British at the time of the withdrawal of German troops to Suez. Since the latter did not happen, the former also did not.

Immigrants made up the backbone of Jewish paramilitary groups fighting against the British in Palestine after WWII.

[gsev]

Quote: Operator

The figure of the trained young German Jews I took from a profile article on the Internet.

It would be interesting to see what kind of article? 90% of men in blooming age are SS agents! Probably purebred Aryans had a lower percentage of those trained and just a chance to get into the SS. Among Jewish physicists who fell into the US nuclear project, 90% of saboteurs too? In all the SS troops there were 400 thousand Germans and 550 thousand unterman! But Germans in Germany were 150 times more than Jews. And then the Jews-the elite of the SS! Well well!

[Operator]

I don’t remember the link to the article.

The program of militarized and agrarian training of returnees to Palestine involved German Jews of both sexes (women - small arms, medicine, radio communications, rear services). Most likely, one of the goals of the Zionist organizations in Germany was to remove as many Jewish youth from the age of 18 to 30 as possible.

[Octopus]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

cooperation continued after the 34th

What do you call "cooperation"?

The idea of ​​creating a Jewish state anywhere, even in Birobidzhan the hell on the cakes, was in those years very popular, both among anti-Semites and among Jews. Knowing the real state of affairs, this was a very good idea.

Unfortunately, the anti-Semites were for this idea only in theory. The French blocked the Madagascar version, the British - the Zionist.

[Rostislav Bely]

in addition to the Madagascar plan (the German plan that Poland fit into) there was also the Ugandan plan ...
a program proposed in 1903 by the British government to the Zionist movement and involving the creation of a Jewish state on the territory of modern Kenya with the name Uganda (but not on the territory of the modern state with that name).
Now it’s clear why the British and Poles were sympathetic to the Nazis ...
Great Britain team at the Olympics in Germany

And this is the sponsor of that Olympics

[Krasnodar]

In 1903, the Zionists themselves asked the British about this after the Chisinau pogrom. At the Zionist Congress, the issue was put to the vote - but everything was decided by the opinion of the Chisinau delegation - they were for the settlement of Palestine and rejected the Ugandan plan.

[Hunter 2]

Hi Albert! In addition to the Nazis, you also decided to blame the Tsarist regime ??? Scha Olgovich wakes up - and you will be happy!

Quote: Krasnodar

In 1903, the Zionists themselves asked the British about this after the Chisinau pogrom. At the Zionist Congress, the issue was put to the vote - but everything was decided by the opinion of the Chisinau delegation - they were for the settlement of Palestine and rejected the Ugandan plan.

[Krasnodar]

Good morning!
That is not, royal power was a paradise on earth, the people freed two years before the American blacks

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Krasnodar

Good morning!
That is not, royal power was a paradise on earth, the people freed two years before the American blacks

Moreover, the Negro helped to liberate the Tsarist Government R And ... remember this!

[Krasnodar]

Here! Without the Romanovs, Morgan Freeman would work on a plantation!

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Krasnodar

Here! Without the Romanovs, Morgan Freeman would work on a plantation!

And here he is - The very place ... after his Russophobic statements!

[Krasnodar]

I didn’t hear ... what did he blurt out?

[Hunter 2]

It’s difficult to search and expose from the phone ... try to hammer in the search engine! In short: Russians - Byak, GDP - Tyrant and Villain!

[Krasnodar]

To the plantation - to work and sing a sad Negro song: Mama, When Masta would sell us?

[Octopus]

Quote: Krasnodar

two years earlier than American blacks

American blacks in the North were free initially.

But the idea that Russians in Russia is about like blacks in the southern states is certainly interesting.

[Krasnodar]

I'm talking about serfdom, actually ...

[Octopus]

Quote: Krasnodar

I'm talking about serfdom

Does this somehow contradict my post? Are serfs not Russian people in Russia?

[Krasnodar]

Soooo ...
I will answer in your style. Not all Russians were slaves. Only serfs.
Serf Russian people became freer than US citizens of African American descent for two whole years EMNIP earlier, And the blacks were released as much as 2 years later.
But Russian people in Russia were in the position of people of African descent in the southern United States.
Continue? )))

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Octopus

American blacks in the North were free initially.

in the north there were few blacks incomparable with the south.
since the cotton did not grow and they were afraid of taking blacks home to themselves and disdained which was not in the south.
read the same Uncle Tom’s cabin on the painted Gariet Beecher, born in faraway northern Connecticut, where the Negroes did not smell.
interesting reaction of the heroes of the northerners visiting relatives in the south when they saw Negro's domestic servants.
they are not indignant at the presence of slaves, but see them as a danger to the whites.

lastly, the northerners even traded in slaves simply did not keep them at their place for the above reasons

[Octopus]

You see. If a person does not own slaves out of disgust - this is not such a bad reason to abandon slavery. Beecher Stowe, by the way, is white.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Octopus

You see. If a person does not own slaves out of disgust - this is not such a bad reason to abandon slavery

nobly refuse slavery but trade slaves. worthily.

Quote: Octopus

Beecher Stowe, by the way, is white.

Well, yes, that’s why I exemplified it.

[Octopus]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

nobly refuse slavery but trade slaves. worthily.

I would venture to admit that the 600 thousand people who bought the Hut, as a rule, did not sell slaves. By the way, what were the print runs of Nekrasov? And he himself did not have, for an hour, a shower, three hundred and four? Unlike Beecher Stow?

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Octopus

I would venture to admit that the 600 thousand people who bought the Hut, as a rule, did not sell slaves.

the north controlled trade across the ocean, including the trade in ebony. by the way, this was one of the reasons for the war in America.
the northerners were monopolists of trade with Europe and rode the southerners in full.
yes, not every northerner went to the market to sell slaves, but every slave sold in America went through a northern merchant. something like this.

I don’t know about Nekrasov, you know better.

[gsev]

Quote: Octopus

But he himself didn’t have, for an hour, hundreds of three or four showers?

The father of the poet Nekrasov had 40 serfs. Nekrasov, sympathizing with his mother, was in a bad relationship with his father, who from his serfs made a harem, was deprived of his father's help in school. Nekrasov earned money by playing cards and publishing a magazine. He won hundreds of thousands of rubles in cards.

[gsev]

Quote: Krasnodar

people freed two years earlier than American blacks

It is necessary to clarify. In 1961, peasants moved into the category of temporarily liable. That is, they had to fulfill the duties of serfs until full settlement of redemption payments. The remnants of serfdom were completely eliminated in the 1880s. In addition, landlessness left the peasants powerless. In the Tambov region, even before the First World War, the clerk could have beaten the laborer to death if he tried to carry away several potatoes. The farm laborers worked only for food. Finally, they freed themselves from landlord arbitrariness only in the summer of 1917. To do this, they had to burn the landowner’s estate and drive the owners by force from their homes.

[Rostislav Bely]

there is one such nuance - you read the statistics on the dead, namely, clashes and punishments (they poured acid and pogrom there ... pogrom?), but in general it’s a trend of that time, the bearded uncle from the classics generally wrote with an indignant mind that the Russians are behind all the attacks in europe ...

Friedrich Engels erupted in an article entitled “Imperial Russians Real Secret Dynamite Advisers” in the Der Sozialdemokrat newspaper (No. 5, January 29, 1885). The classic wrote: “I have no reason to doubt that the London bombings on January 24, 1885 are the work of Russia ... Everyone knows that official Russia does not back down to any means, if only they lead to the goal ... About what they can do official Russia to eliminate the people who interfere with it with the help of poison, a dagger, etc., enough examples are given by the history of the Balkan Peninsula over the past hundred years ... "
The reason why Russia committed such terrible crimes in London, Engels saw in the following: "The Russian government uses all means to conclude agreements with the West European states on the extradition of Russian revolutionaries of emigrants."
That is, according to Engels, the attacks are a way of pressure of the Russian Empire on the British government to extradite Russian troublemakers. The article was reprinted by many European newspapers. They demanded to send Russian diplomats and impose sanctions.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Rostislav Bely

The classic wrote: “I have no reason to doubt that the London bombings on January 24, 1885, were the work of Russia ...

Hrenase, the "Skripals case", it turns out, has a long tradition, oh how!

[Andrzej k]

in addition to the Madagascar plan (the German plan that Poland fit into) there was also the Ugandan plan ...

- but there was still a Soviet plan - the Jewish Autonomous Region - Birobidzhan - 1928. I do not see any serious differences - one goal.

[Mcar]

Unpleasant topic. Everything is so messed up with lies in the mass consciousness that any word of truth is immediately obstructed and thrown with rotten tomatoes. For instance:

Many historians, incidentally, suggest that the failure of the German “Madagascar Plan” pushed the Nazis to the Holocaust.

Suppose? Hmm. And what do historians "suggest" about the Holocaust, not in general, but specifically 6 million Jews, and precisely in 1896, 1919? The curious can find newspaper articles of the corresponding years themselves.

The humor is that there are honest people among the Jews too. And many - one listing of the names of Jews exposing the myth of the Holocaust will take a lot of time and space. And again, the curious can easily find both articles and books written by these respected people. For example, Norman Finkelstein, American Jewish scientist, professor at New York University. In his book "The Holocaust Industry", which Raoul Hilberg, the most prominent historiographer of the Holocaust, gave a positive assessment, he proves that Until 1967, no one in the world was interested in the deaths of Jews during the Second World War. The least interested were American Jews who did not even think about Israel. From 1945 to 1967, only two books were published in America about the deaths of Jews, and they went unnoticed by the public.

In 1967, Israel won a brilliant victory over its neighbors. The Americans noticed the success of the young predator and made him an ally. Only after that, American Jews began to promote the propaganda apparatus of the Holocaust. With his help, they defended and justified violations of human rights in the territories occupied by Israel. The more Gaza Palestinians died from Israeli weapons, the more loudly the American Jews shouted about the Nazi gas chambers. Israel and the Holocaust became the pillars of the new Jewish religion in the United States, replacing the dilapidated Old Testament.

Since then, the process has begun: the wealth of American Jews and their influence in the US state apparatus and press have grown. 30% of the richest people in America, 30% of ministers and bankers, 20% of university professors, 50% of leading lawyers are Jews. Jews own about half of Wall Street’s capital.

The legend of an eternally persecuted people and a terrible Holocaust became necessary - not only to protect Israel from condemnation by the world community, but also to protect Jewish rich and oligarchs from criticism. It is worth saying a word against a Jewish crook, as the Jewish press urgently raises the shadow of Auschwitz to a combat post.

“Through the tales of the Holocaust,” writes Finkelstein, “one of the militarily powerful powers in the world with monstrous human rights abuses is portrayed as a potential victim, and the most prosperous ethnic group in the United States is hapless refugees. Victim status is primarily immunity. from well-deserved criticism. "

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: McAr

The humor is that honest people are also found among Jews

What do you mean too? Even as they meet, in the end the Jew is just a nationality, and not a worldview, or even a characteristic.

[Mcar]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

What do you mean too?

That’s what it means. Regardless of nationality, dishonest people are found.

Some, even when quoting, cannot preserve their honor, and behave as a well-known character of Vinokur: we read here, we don’t read here, here we wrap herring.

Quote: McAr

The humor is that among Jews there are also honest people. And a lot - just listing the names of the Jews exposing the Holocaust myth will take a lot of time and place.

PS. Well, and as you can see for yourself, here, in VO, judging by the complaint about an objective commentary, far from all are honest. There are those who exactly match the above:
It is worth saying a word against a Jewish crook, as the Jewish press urgently raises the shadow of Auschwitz to a combat post.

[Krasnodar]

The states became interested in Israel after the Soviet troops entered Egypt in 1969. As for the oppression of Palestinians in the territories - first of all, the occupiers in 1967 made a huge purchase of Palestinian agricultural products from oppressed Arabs for the needs of the army and allowed Jordanian and Iraqi businessmen (Israel was at war with these countries) to come to Judea and Samaria for purchase goods. So that the oppressed Palestinians do not die of hunger.

[Mcar]

Quote: Krasnodar

made a huge purchase of Palestinian agricultural products

Quote: Krasnodar

So that the oppressed Palestinians do not die of hunger.

Are you friends with logic? And if they had not bought food from the Palestinians, they would not have guessed to eat it themselves?

[Krasnodar]

And this question sounds in conjunction with the “friend logic?”
They grew it for sale

[Octopus]

Quote: McAr

again - the curious can easily find articles and books written by these respected people. For example, Norman Finkelstein, American Jewish scholar, professor at New York University

You are absolutely right. Unfortunately, the very fact of Jewry is also not a pass to paradise. David Abramovich Dragunsky, twice Hero of the Soviet Union, and his wonderful company are, alas, far from the only example of Jewish scum. Among the Jewish socialists in general, there are surprisingly many anti-Semites in general and the negative Holocaust in particular, anti-Semitism, suddenly, is an integral part of the left worldview.

[Karen]

Quote: Octopus

David Abramovich Dragunsky, twice Hero of the Soviet Union

I read his book "Wild Wormwood" ... Very informative ...

[Octopus]

This is not his book, but Ts. Solodar, if I do not confuse anything.

[Karen]

Yes, sorry, mixed up ... But also ... the acquaintances of Jews and him (Ts.S.) were considered an anti-Zionist / anti-Semite ...

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Octopus

anti-Semitism, all of a sudden, is an integral part of the left worldview.

Watching whom you think is left.

[Octopus]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Watching who you think is left

A couple of surnames were mentioned above. Both a New York professor and a Soviet tankman.

If a person is a real communist, he ceases to be a Jew (Russian, Polish, anyone).

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Some vague thesis. What do you mean by "ceases to be"? Sideways suddenly disappear or you forget the Russian language? In general, does a person have to be Russian or Jewish? Just can't be human?

[Octopus]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

What do you mean by "ceases to be"?

A person ceases to include people of his nationality in the category "we". More precisely, nationality ceases to be a line of separation between us / not us. A communist means an internationalist.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Do you want to say it bad?

[Octopus]

Depends on what this international communist is doing with his former people. Generally yes, this is very bad. Internationalism in this case does not become a manifestation of tolerance, God forgive me, Christian love, but a liberation from any obligations, whether national, whether patriotic, by the way. The mentioned Mr. Filkenstein is as non-American as a non-Jew.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Octopus

Internationalism in this case does not become a manifestation of tolerance, God forgive me, Christian love, but a liberation from any obligations, whether national, whether patriotic, by the way.

And again, some kind of vague thesis.

Quote: Octopus

Generally yes, this is very bad.

Where can I read about this rule? Why did you decide that?

[Octopus]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

And again, some kind of vague thesis.

Nothing vague, it seems to me. I do not consider Comrade Stalin a Georgian, Comrade Lenin a Russian, Comrade Yagoda a Jew, Comrade Dzerzhinsky a Pole, etc. However, this is my personal view of the national problem, I do not impose it on anyone.

[gsev]

Quote: Octopus

If a person is a real communist, he ceases to be a Jew (Russian, Polish, anyone).

Probably every person changed his attitude to politics several times in his life, but it’s impossible to change a nation. What is a real communist: Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot or Yuri Gagarin, David Dragunsky and George Zhukov? Do you refuse Zhukov to be considered Russian, and Dragoon Jewish?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Octopus

Among Jewish socialists, there are surprisingly many anti-Semites.

Do not confuse anti-Semitism with Zionism.

[Octopus]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Do not confuse anti-Semitism with Zionism.

Zionism - the idea that the Jewish people should gather at Mount Zion, that is, in Israel - is just perfectly combined with anti-Semitism. The same Hitler was more or less satisfied with this option.

But the so-called fighters against Zionism are trying to get Jews even there. In this regard, the progressive public on the Jewish question left Hitlor far behind the flag.

[gsev]

Quote: Octopus

David Abramovich Dragunsky, twice Hero of the Soviet Union,

The anti-Zionist committee in its actions prevented the resettlement of Jews in Israel. Propaganda on emigration to Israel was not always honest. Remember the tales voiced by Gerber and Soloukhin about the impending Jewish pogrom. Dragunsky was a Soviet patriot. Unlike the Israeli patriots, he did not participate in the expulsion of Palestinians from Palestine.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: McAr

Since then, the process has begun: the wealth of American Jews and their influence in the US state apparatus and press have grown. 30% of the richest people in America, 30% of ministers and bankers, 20% of university professors, 50% of leading lawyers are Jews. Jews own about half of Wall Street’s capital.

not a call to action, but a pure conclusion: Jewish pogroms have been known all over the world since ancient times, I personally have not heard of other mass ethno pogroms. Well, such a mass of people cannot be mistaken.

[Octopus]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I haven’t heard about other mass ethnic pogroms

Very interesting. It turns out that in Chechnya in the 90s only Jews had problems. The most widely recognized ethnic genocide - Rwanda 1994 - was also the genocide of the Jews. I didn’t know about it.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Octopus

Very interesting. It turns out that in Chechnya in the 90s only Jews had problems.

You see, the issue of genocide of the non-Chechen population concerns all the peoples of the Checheno-Soviet Socialist Republic at that time, just the Russians, for various reasons, left later than other nationalities and came under distribution. And I meant the persecution of Jews in multinational states where only Jews were subjected to genocide, so I don’t understand your sarcasm.

[Octopus]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

where only Jews were subjected to genocide, so I don’t understand your sarcasm.

And where did you get the idea that in Germany or the same Russia that we lost, only Jews had problems with concentration camps / pogroms?

Quiet Don went to school? There is a little bit about the friendship of peoples under the old regime.

[Maki Avellevich]

About 30 thousand Jewish Huguenots on Bartholomew’s night forgotten

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Octopus

The most widely recognized ethnic genocide - Rwanda 1994 - was also the genocide of the Jews.

Genocide in Rwanda officially called genocide against Tutsi - massacre of Rwandan Tutsis by local Hutus

so the question is, where else is the genocide of the Rwandan Tutsis ?? Now, if you carefully read my post, which you comment on, squeezing sarcasm out of yourself, then you would understand that we are talking about massive (one might say world) persecution of Jews.

[Olgovich]

Quote: McAr

among the Jews also meet honest people.

And this is written .... by the Bolshevik "tyrnatsinalist"! What is being done ....


And yes, insert in place the words "Jews" YOUR nationality ... maybe it will come ...

[Mcar]

Quote: Olgovich

And this is written .... by the Bolshevik "tyrnatsinalist"!

Pot calls the kettle black!

Among your supporters - Russophobia, Natsik and other shusharas, whose moral character is below the cesspool, full of those who generally do not see honest Jews.

[Far B]

I will not touch on the topic of relations between Poles and Jews in the interwar period - both sides are not white and fluffy there. But the fact that the rock-growing of that Poland blew the roof in different directions is a fact. They even in all seriousness demanded from the League of Nations that Poland be allocated colonies. At whose expense and on what basis, however, it was not specified.
However, the current leadership of Poland blows the roof no less. Apparently hereditary.

[Deck]

Is Cupid better than Madagascar? :

On March 28, 1928, the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR adopted a resolution “On securing for KomZET (Committee on the Land Organization of Jewish Workers) for the needs of continuous settlement of free lands by working Jews and in the Amur strip of the Far Eastern Territory” - in Birobidzhan.
On August 20, 1930, the Central Executive Committee of the RSFSR adopted a resolution “On the Formation of the Biro-Bijan National District as Part of the Far Eastern Region”.

By the decree of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee of May 7, 1934, the indicated national region received the status of an Autonomous Jewish National Region.

In April 1931, the Amuro-Tunguska region was annexed to the original area of ​​35 thousand square kilometers of the then Birobidzhan region (thereby increasing the area to 72 thousand square kilometers), but in 1934 the EAO returned the Amuro-Tunguska region to the Khabarovsk Territory and in exchange received it in the west Obluchye village with its surroundings [13].

[Far B]

I don’t know, I wasn’t in Madagascar. In the Jewess, he planted a couple of seasons of bees))) It's very good, you know. Have you been to EAO?

[Deck]

No, but I was in Madagascar. We went to Tuamasina)
Well, how do you like in the Jewish Autonomous Region? Judging by population density - a paradise.

[Octopus]

Quote: Dalny V

I will not touch on the relationship between Poles and Jews in the interwar period - both sides are not white and fluffy there

Anti-Semitism in those years, as now, is the norm. US Secretary of State Hull, later a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, turned Jewish refugees back to Germany, the British were categorically against Aliyah. Hitler was a little more radical than Churchill, for example. Indeed, they began to see something strange in the Holocaust 20 years after the war, and that was far from all.

Another thing is that Vladimir Vladimirovich somehow without thinking twice connected to this issue. He would have to deal with crimes against the Jews of his native Soviet power and doubly native Soviet state security. He apparently forgot such trifles, but there is someone to remind.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Octopus

Another thing is that Vladimir Vladimirovich somehow without thinking twice connected to this issue. He would have to figure it out with crimes against Jews native Soviet power and doubly native Soviet state security. He apparently forgot such trifles, but there is someone to remind.

List the same:
1
2
3
4 ....

[Octopus]

You see, I’m not collecting the crimes of the Soviet regime specifically against the Jews. I think there are more interested people. Literally here in the replays.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Octopus

You see, I’m not collecting the crimes of the Soviet regime specifically against the Jews.

If you don’t collect it, then don’t waste it:

Quote: Octopus
He would deal with crimes against the Jews of his native Soviet power

[Octopus]

)))
What are you leading to? That the native Soviet power did not commit crimes against precisely the Jews? Let's start by discussing the JAC.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Octopus

What are you leading to? That the native Soviet power did not commit crimes against precisely the Jews?

to that. that having said "A", they ran away from "B"

[Octopus]

Quote: Olgovich

saying "A", ran away from "B"

Again. Want to talk about violations and observance of socialist legality?

[Olgovich]

Quote: Octopus

Again.

FIRST time, where?

[Octopus]

Quote: Octopus

That the native Soviet power did not commit crimes against precisely the Jews? Let's start by discussing the JAC.

Let's start, no?

[Olgovich]

Quote: Octopus

Quote: Octopus
That the native Soviet power did not commit crimes against precisely the Jews? Let's start by discussing the JAC.

Let's start, no?

1. There is no "socialist law" about Jews.
2. YOU were going to discuss them, for which you were asked to START a listing of anti-Jewish crimes.

What's not clear?

[Undecim]

In the Russian Empire, the approach was simpler; Madagascars did not bother.

[Rostislav Bely]

You can drip even deeper that you pester Catherine 1, she’s a laundress from ordinary people (humor) ...
In the XV century. a Jew appeared in Novgorod, Sakharia, with accomplices and began to plant the "heresy of the Judaizers", which spread to Moscow and hit the daughter-in-law of Grand Duke Elena. Heretics were condemned in Moscow in 1504, some of them were executed, some fled to Lithuania (Poland). Princess Elena is imprisoned in a monastery. Later, Brest Jews were expelled from Moscow, and their goods were burned.
In 1550, Vel. Prince Lithuanian and King of Poland through the ambassador addressed to Moscow Vel. Prince with a request not to obstruct the "Jews with goods and enter your state." What led. Prince Moscow John replied: “We wrote to you more than once about dashing deeds from the Jews. As they took our people away from Christianity, they brought a poisonous potion to us and did dirty tricks on many of our people. So you, our brother, would not have suited you and write a lot about them, hearing them such evil deeds. ”
In 1563, during the Livonian war, the city of Polotsk was taken by Russian troops. Polovtsians complained to the Tsar about the oppression and dashing affairs of the Jews, former attorneys and tenants of the Polish authorities and tycoons. John the Terrible ordered all Jews of Polotsk to be drowned in the river. Since then, for more than two centuries, until the end of the XNUMXth century, Jews were not allowed at all, even temporarily, into the territory of not only the Moscow kingdom, but also the entire Russian Empire.

[32363]

Here is such a number of 193000 survivors for 2016 and this is only in Israel

[Professor]

What did you mean by that? What of the total 4 Holocaust survivors in Israel today is 000? Is it a lot or a little?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-population-of-europe-in-1933-population-data-by-country

[32363]

Quote: professor

What did you mean by that? What of the total 4 Holocaust survivors in Israel today is 000? Is it a lot or a little?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-population-of-europe-in-1933-population-data-by-country

this is a lot for me, they were not in a rest camp and after 70 years of them survived, only 193 thousand remained in Israel.
The numbers were taken from one Jewish monthly calendar produced in Europe.

[Professor]

Quote: 32363

Quote: professor

What did you mean by that? What of the total 4 Holocaust survivors in Israel today is 000? Is it a lot or a little?

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-population-of-europe-in-1933-population-data-by-country

this is a lot for me, they were not in a rest camp and after 70 years of them survived, only 193 thousand remained in Israel.
The numbers were taken from one Jewish monthly calendar produced in Europe.

Do you think all the Holocaust survivors were in the camps? You're wrong. My grandmother with 3 sons was evacuated. In Israel, she and her eldest (the only survivor of 3) are considered Holocaust survivors.

[Fibrizio]

It is difficult to name a country in a world where Jews are loved. Except for Israel, of course.
Now the old generations are slowly becoming obsolete and quietly leaving, but I heard a lot of stereotypes and hostility towards Jews from people born in 1915-1950. Jews in the USSR did not like.
Although, on the basis of motivation, I understood that they were no longer loved because "they gave each other a good job and, in general, they were very smart ..."
Such haircuts.
And if you recall princely Russia, then the second after the unwanted prince (in the event of a conflict between local businessmen and the government) went to beat the Jewish money-lenders. So the example of Poland is not unique.
In medieval France, power also regularly robbed either Lombards or Jews (they were also called enemies, we are now more tolerant, we are told that the West, NATO and America are our enemies).

And on the issue of tolerance in the Russian Federation now, I’m sure that with an honest nationwide referendum of gays without remorse, they would have sent the moon in the cargo compartment.

[Professor]

Quote: Fibrizio

And on the issue of tolerance in the Russian Federation now, I’m sure that with an honest nationwide referendum of gays without remorse, they would have sent the moon in the cargo compartment.

Gays in Nazi Germany were among the first to be sent to concentration camps. The people also approved.

Anti-Semitism in modern Russia also rolls over. Look at the comments for at least this article.

It is difficult to name a country in a world where Russians are loved. Including Russia of course. And who generally loves whom?

[Uncle Izya]

the earth is round ... the mouse will pour out tears of a mouse .. fucking damn
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Just cause
The Putin regime, with Middle Eastern terrorists, Islamists, Iranian ayatollahs, and all international political marginals as close friends, colleagues, partners, and allies, is twisting himself, while helping and supporting scumbags.
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Michael veksler
The Russian pahanat supports all face-to-face regimes on the planet, since like attracts like. Even the representative of the Republic of Poland in the UN was chosen to hold the face with the chase of Nebenzya.
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Mikhail Gotsular
Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are. Muscovites have friends of terrorists around the planet. That’s the whole story. I wish them in this year of complete collapse !!!!.
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Mikhail Shevyakov
Are you guys playing the foolish little fool here ... oh, how clean and fluffy you are - bgygygs ... Russia - pursues a balanced policy and pursues its interests here, and why should the Israeli leadership always support it? Is Israel Russia? - :)) Normal pragmatism.
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Leonid Ladies
Mr. Shevyakov. Imagine (purely speculative, I don't want this to be) that any scum will harm (beat, maim, and so on, at your discretion) to you or your loved ones. And one of your acquaintances will condemn you and support or praise these scum. And then you, too, will consider that this someone "conducts a balanced policy" and will communicate or be friends with him?
And in Israel, Hamas and other scum kill people for real, not speculative.
LMD
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Leonid Ladies
"... and with what fear should she always support the leadership of Israel?"
Mr. Shevyakov, let's not lie (although maybe you just don’t know). When Russia supported Israel (verbal chatter is not considered, matters are important, do you agree with this?)?
Always, in everything, Russia has supported and is supporting Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as Iran, which is constantly threatening to destroy Israel. At the UN, Russia always blocks any attempt to condemn Hamas, even for rocket attacks on Israel, for the killing of its citizens. Russia always supports all anti-Israeli resolutions, even so odious that EVERYTHING is remembered ... More
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Leonid Ladies
"... and pursues its own interests here." This is, in fact, the rule to pursue your interests. Although up to certain limits. So, Hitler also pursued his own interests and his Germany, but that this resulted.
And now, Mr. Shevyakov, let's turn our brains on and think together what Russia's interests are? Why does she struggle to support the Arab regimes, Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran (we will talk about China and North Korea here) and oppose Israel?
I want to remind (Maybe you are young and just do not know) - the main reason for the fall of Soviet power and the collapse of the USSR is ... More
Professor Russophobia in Israel is off-scale this koment Israel. Every day on Israeli sites on Russian-speaking Hebrew-speaking Israel, the most Russophobian country.

[Professor]

The very idea of ​​resettling the Jewish population of Europe to Madagascar first came to minds of the Germans at the end of the XNUMXth century, but the results of the First World War, which were disappointing for Germany, prevented it from being realized.

The project for the resettlement of Jews in Madagascar was formulated in 1935 year Marius Mute, French Minister of Overseas Territories, who proposed transferring to Poland the island of Madagascar, which was then a French colony. The idea was supported by the Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jozef Beck, who created in 1935 a working group to resolve the Jewish question in Poland. This working group consisted of Victor Tomir Drimmer, head of the V department of the consular department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland, manager of the emigration policy department Janusz Zarychta and the latter’s deputy Jan Wagner. On December 23, 1936, this group introduced a memorandum entitled “Jewish Emigration and Colonial Issues” for government discussion.

Many historians, incidentally, suggest that the failure of the German “Madagascar Plan” pushed the Nazis to the Holocaust.

Vh. 3440
the USSR
Migration Administration under the USSR
9 February 1940 city
No. 01471c
Moscow, Red Square, 3
Telegraph - Moscow Resettlement
Phone K 0 95-03
Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars
T. Molotov V.M.
The Migration Department under the SNK of the USSR received two letters from the Berlin and Vienna Migration Bureau on the organization of the resettlement of the Jewish population from Germany to the USSR - specifically to Birobidzhan and Western Ukraine.
By agreement of the Government of the USSR with Germany on the evacuation of the population to the territory of the USSR, only Ukrainians, Belarusians, Rusyns and Russians are evacuated.
We believe that the proposals of these resettlement bureaus cannot be accepted.
I ask for directions.
Appendix: on 6 sheets.
Head of the Migration Directorate under the SNK of the USSR Chekmenev

The USSR refused to accept Jews in Germany. Jews were disposed of in gas chambers.

Everyone had a snout in fluff.

[Olgovich]

Quote: professor

By agreement of the Government of the USSR with Germany About evacuation of the population, on the territory of the USSR, only Ukrainians, Belarusians, Rusyns and Russians are evacuated.
We believe that the proposals of these resettlement bureaus cannot be accepted.
I ask for directions.
Appendix: on 6 sheets.
Head of the Migration Directorate under the SNK of the USSR Chekmenev

the USSR refused Germany in receiving Jews

Because in the "Agreement on the evacuation of the population" November 16, 1939 Mr. Jews Were NOT indicated:

Agreement between the Government of the USSR and the Government of Germany on the evacuation Ukrainian., Belarusian., Rus. and Ruthenian population from the territories of the former. Poland, departed to the state zone. interests of Germany, and him. population from the territories of the former. Poland, departed to the state zone. interests of the USSR.

There was no reason.

1. I also recall that the mass executions in the 1940 you mentioned not yet been.
the USSR did not know in 1940. that Jews must be saved from mass extermination, for it only began in 1941 city

2. Not the USSR commanded the world after the WWII but your West. But he refused to accept Jews ..

[Professor]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: professor

that nobody cared about the Jews and the USSR was any better than Poland.

And only Jews are white and fluffy. Did I understand you correctly?

... and only the Jews were satisfied with the "final decision". About this article.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: professor

... and only the Jews were satisfied with the "final decision". About this article.

Anytime and anywhere? And how does this final decision differ from the genocide plans of the same Russians or Gypsies?

[Professor]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: professor

... and only the Jews were satisfied with the "final decision". About this article.

Anytime and anywhere? And how does this final decision differ from the genocide plans of the same Russians or Gypsies?

The fact that there was no plan for the genocide of the Russians, and the cyan and Jews were destroyed not in the plans, but in practice.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

That is, the Ost plan brought the Russians only good? And didn’t they destroy the Russians?

[Professor]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

That is, the Ost plan brought the Russians only good? And didn’t they destroy the Russians?

There was no talk of genocide. On the side of Hitler, the Russian Liberation Army fought.

[Mcar]

Quote: professor

On the side of Hitler, the Russian Liberation Army fought.

On the side of Hitler, the invading Jewish army fought.

I doubt that you are not aware of the fact that 150 Jews served in the Wehrmacht.

[Professor]

Quote: McAr

On the side of Hitler, the invading Jewish army fought.

In your fantasies.

Quote: McAr

I doubt that you are not aware of the fact that 150 Jews served in the Wehrmacht.

Fact? That is, with the Jewish population of Germany, 600 served in the Wehrmacht 000? Israel with 150 calling for both men and women collects 000, and German Jews were able to collect 6 Jewish divisions? Go, go, I do not serve on Saturdays.
This topic has been discussed 10500 times and has been ridiculed as many times.

[Mcar]

Quote: professor

That is, with the Jewish population of Germany, 600 served in the Wehrmacht 000?

Germany? And the fact that almost all of Europe was Germany is not taken into account?

Quote: professor

This topic has been discussed 10500 times and has been ridiculed as many times.

I do not see anything funny.

So, to ridicule the Holocaust, which the Zionists have dreamed of since the 19th century, is bad, and to ridicule the fact of Jewish service in Nazi Germany is normal. So do you think?

[Professor]

Quote: McAr

Germany? And the fact that almost all of Europe was Germany is not taken into account?

Yeah. Jews of Poland serve in the Wehrmacht. Do you sometimes include what is in your skull box.

Quote: McAr

I do not see anything funny.

There are 2 options: either you are not at all in the subject, or I am wasting my time talking with you. There were no 150 Jews in the Wehrmacht from the word "absolutely". Not a single fact, not a single document was cited in this book. Financed the "research" of the so-called. the "historian" of the land unions and regional partnerships of the HIAG organization (German: Hilfsgemeinschaft auf Gegenseitigkeit der Angehörigen der ehemaligen Waffen-SS (HIAG) Society for the Mutual Aid of Former Members of the Waffen SS), as well as from the "War Graves Fund" founded in 000 when all brothers are silent "" (German "Kriegsgräberstiftung Wenn alle Brüder schweigen").

Quote: McAr

So, to ridicule the Holocaust, which the Zionists have dreamed of since the 19th century, is bad, and to ridicule the fact of Jewish service in Nazi Germany is normal. So do you think?

1. You are lying claiming that the Zionists dreamed of the Holocaust. I will require evidence and you will sit in a puddle.
2. There are no "facts" of Jewish service in the Wehrmacht. Here you will sit in a puddle even louder.

Learn materiel and do not disgrace.

[Mcar]

Quote: professor

Yeah. Jews of Poland serve in the Wehrmacht.

In Europe, in addition to Poland, there are several more countries. Give a world map?

Word to the Cavalier of the Iron Cross, company commander of the 64th Infantry Regiment, Solomon Klaus: "Colonel Pilgrim thanked us for our actions. I invited him to sit down, treated him to coffee and army black bread. We began to talk and then he asked if I was not from the Baltic states. My German pronunciation reminded him of the accent there. I replied that I was born in Finland, German learned at school. But my parents emigrated to Finland from Latvia, district of Latgale. And unable to resist added that we Jews spoke Yiddish at homewhich resembles German. Everyone stared at me. The colonel got up, shook my hand and said: "I personally have nothing against the fact that you are a Jew." Then he gave us a Nazi salute and left the tent. "

Quote: professor

You are lying claiming that the Zionists dreamed of the Holocaust. I will require evidence and you will sit in a puddle.

Sit in a puddle yourself:

Quote: professor

There are no "facts" of Jewish service in the Wehrmacht. Here you will sit in a puddle even louder.

The national composition of prisoners of war in the USSR, taken in the period from 22.06.1941/2.09.1945/9 to 1991/46/XNUMX, Military History Journal-№ XNUMX.-M., XNUMX.-С. XNUMX. ​​Quote: "In our POW camps are officially registered 10 thousand 173 Jews who fought against the Soviet Union on the side of the Nazis in the troops of the Hitlerite Wehrmacht ".

[Professor]

Quote: McAr

In Europe, in addition to Poland, there are several more countries. Give a world map?

Keep it to yourself. Finns served in Finnish army fought against the USSR. Where are 150 Jews of the Wehrmacht?

Quote: McAr

Sit in a puddle yourself:

This picture cannot be read. give something readable.

Quote: McAr

The ethnic composition of prisoners of war in the USSR, taken in the period from 22.06.1941 to 2.09.1945, Voenno-istoricheskiy zhurnal-№ 9.-M., 1991.-P. 46. ​​Quote: "In our prisoner of war camps, 10 Jews are officially registered who fought against the Soviet Union on the side of the Nazis in the troops of the Hitlerite Wehrmacht."

I warned you not to mess. So you sat in a puddle. You're lying. Thousands of Hungarian Jews who were not in the Wehrmacht and did not fight against the Soviet Union on the side of the Nazis were in Soviet captivity. They did not fight at all and did not hold weapons in their hands, but were forced laborers in the munkaszolgálat labor camps.

they were used at gunpoint on mine clearing, demolition of rubble and mines in mines. In the same way, Soviet prisoners of war worked for the Germans building the V-3 launchers.

Learn the part and do not disgrace.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: professor

There was no talk of genocide. On the side of Hitler, the Russian Liberation Army fought.

I was waiting for this comment. And the fact that they were ordinary supplies did not occur to you? And yes, it was also said about the Slavs of subhuman people. So what is genocide, and he is genocide in Africa. And nehru pull the owl on the globe.

[Professor]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: professor

There was no talk of genocide. On the side of Hitler, the Russian Liberation Army fought.

I was waiting for this comment. And the fact that they were ordinary supplies did not occur to you? And yes, it was also said about the Slavs of subhuman people. So what is genocide, and he is genocide in Africa. And nehru pull the owl on the globe.

Genocide has an exact definition.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: professor

Genocide has an exact definition.

Tell this to the relatives of those Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians who were burned alive, hung, shot and poisoned. The pedant is the demagogue of your horseradish division.

[Professor]

These are war crimes, but not genocide.

[32363]

Quote: professor

Quote: AK1972

And if the USSR agreed, then you would write about Stalin’s conspiracy with Hitler and the genocide of the Jews in the unbearable conditions of Birobidzhan and Western Ukraine. And again, the snout of Stalin would be down.

If he agreed, then maybe the Holocaust would not exist and it would be possible to write about the climate or the weather, and so we write that nobody cared about the Jews and the USSR is any better than Poland.

and what is this magic figure of 6 million Jews even before 1MB?

[Professor]

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Quote: professor

Quote: AK1972

And if the USSR agreed, then you would write about Stalin’s conspiracy with Hitler and the genocide of the Jews in the unbearable conditions of Birobidzhan and Western Ukraine. And again, the snout of Stalin would be down.

If he agreed, then maybe the Holocaust would not exist and it would be possible to write about the climate or the weather, and so we write that nobody cared about the Jews and the USSR is any better than Poland.

and what is this magic figure of 6 million Jews even before 1MB?

With 193 Holocaust survivors and now living in Israel sorted out?

[Karen]

Many years ago I watched an American film (about a hunt that the chief and his employee went out to shoot), the meaning of which can be conveyed with only one sentence from there: "You got me even more than taxes and Jews!"
... Although, I would not be surprised if I learn that today's filmmakers have removed such words from there for the audience ... They removed a much less expressive sentence from another Hollywood film, about the creation of their special services - the hero of Roberto De Niro announced earlier in the film the principle recruiting into the structure: "... a minimum of Catholics, and then - for my sake."

[alebor]

Still, the Poles are very inconsistent. Either the Polish prince Konrad Mazowiecki calls on the Teutonic Order to his land, after which the Poles are at war with him for a long time, then the other Polish ruler, Casimir III, invites Jews from all over Europe to his country, after which the Poles do not know how to get rid of them ...
In my opinion, there is only one conclusion from this: if the ruler is reasonable and thinks about the future of his people, then for the sake of momentary profit he will never populate his country with alien migrants (who, in historical perspective, turn out to be a kind of "time bombs").

[Olgovich]

I agree with the President of Russia in his assessment of Polish anti-Semitism between the WWII and WWII: this is real disgusting.

[bandabas]

And let's raise the genealogy of the chapters of the Third Reich. There you can dig up. Barbarossa will not be delighted.

[32363]

Quote: bandabas

And let's raise the genealogy of the chapters of the Third Reich. There you can dig up. Barbarossa will not be delighted.

so you can dig out 150 thousand Jews who served in the Wehrmacht, as well as thousands of Jewish prisoners of war captured by the Red Army.

[Professor]

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Quote: bandabas

And let's raise the genealogy of the chapters of the Third Reich. There you can dig up. Barbarossa will not be delighted.

so you can dig out 150 thousand Jews who served in the Wehrmacht, as well as thousands of Jewish prisoners of war captured by the Red Army.

... you can't dig up something that wasn't there. These are the fantasies of one author who was paid for by "research" by the Union of SS Veterans. There is not a single document in his book, he has not visited a single archive. He met with 480 Wehrmacht veterans and they "remembered" 1700 colleagues who allegedly had Jewish roots. Further, the "genius" extrapolated 1700 to 150000 by the only known method.

The Fau-3 installation was built by 5000 bonded workers, most of whom were Soviet citizens. Will we consider them to have served in the Wehrmacht? Then why were the forced Hungarian Jews whom the Germans sent under heavy guns for heavy work and for mine clearance suddenly became prisoners of war Jews who allegedly served in the Wehrmacht? Why are thousands of Soviet citizens working in mines not considered to be serving in the Wehrmacht, and thousands of Hungarian Jews in the same situation are counted as serving in the Wehrmacht? Where is the logic, Carl? Why after the liberation of the Jews counted as prisoners of service in the Wehrmacht, but not Russian?

[32363]

Quote: professor

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Quote: bandabas

And let's raise the genealogy of the chapters of the Third Reich. There you can dig up. Barbarossa will not be delighted.

so you can dig out 150 thousand Jews who served in the Wehrmacht, as well as thousands of Jewish prisoners of war captured by the Red Army.

... you can't dig up something that wasn't there. These are the fantasies of one author who was paid for by "research" by the Union of SS Veterans. There is not a single document in his book, he has not visited a single archive. He met with 480 Wehrmacht veterans and they "remembered" 1700 colleagues who allegedly had Jewish roots. Further, the "genius" extrapolated 1700 to 150000 by the only known method.

The Fau-3 installation was built by 5000 bonded workers, most of whom were Soviet citizens. Will we consider them to have served in the Wehrmacht? Then why were the forced Hungarian Jews whom the Germans sent under heavy guns for heavy work and for mine clearance suddenly became prisoners of war Jews who allegedly served in the Wehrmacht? Why are thousands of Soviet citizens working in mines not considered to be serving in the Wehrmacht, and thousands of Hungarian Jews in the same situation are counted as serving in the Wehrmacht? Where is the logic, Carl? Why after the liberation of the Jews counted as prisoners of service in the Wehrmacht, but not Russian?

There is a German film dock where the Jews themselves, former soldiers of the Wehrmacht, talk about this.

[Professor]

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Quote: professor

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Quote: bandabas

And let's raise the genealogy of the chapters of the Third Reich. There you can dig up. Barbarossa will not be delighted.

so you can dig out 150 thousand Jews who served in the Wehrmacht, as well as thousands of Jewish prisoners of war captured by the Red Army.

... you can't dig up something that wasn't there. These are the fantasies of one author who was paid for by "research" by the Union of SS Veterans. There is not a single document in his book, he has not visited a single archive. He met with 480 Wehrmacht veterans and they "remembered" 1700 colleagues who allegedly had Jewish roots. Further, the "genius" extrapolated 1700 to 150000 by the only known method.

The Fau-3 installation was built by 5000 bonded workers, most of whom were Soviet citizens. Will we consider them to have served in the Wehrmacht? Then why were the forced Hungarian Jews whom the Germans sent under heavy guns for heavy work and for mine clearance suddenly became prisoners of war Jews who allegedly served in the Wehrmacht? Why are thousands of Soviet citizens working in mines not considered to be serving in the Wehrmacht, and thousands of Hungarian Jews in the same situation are counted as serving in the Wehrmacht? Where is the logic, Carl? Why after the liberation of the Jews counted as prisoners of service in the Wehrmacht, but not Russian?

There is a German film dock where the Jews themselves, former soldiers of the Wehrmacht, talk about this.

Let's get a link, take a look.

PS
My questions remained unanswered.

[Octopus]

Quote: professor

Further, the "genius" extrapolated

If I understand correctly what this is about, the comrade simply maximally approached the issue of racial purity. If Eichmann recorded in misleading for one grandmother, then 1/8 is enough for young historians. The current anti-Semites - they are still of principle importance.

[Professor]

Quote: Octopus

Quote: professor

Further, the "genius" extrapolated

If I understand correctly what this is about, the comrade simply maximally approached the issue of racial purity. If Eichmann recorded in misleading for one grandmother, then 1/8 is enough for young historians. The current anti-Semites - they are still of principle importance.

Unfortunately, the "genius" does not reveal his secret formulas. By the way, he was kicked out of the academy and he worked as a consultant in a bank. Now on free bread.

[Octopus]

Quote: professor

Why are thousands of Soviet citizens working in mines not considered to be serving in the Wehrmacht, and thousands of Hungarian Jews in the same situation are counted as serving in the Wehrmacht? Where is the logic, Carl? Why after the liberation of the Jews counted as prisoners of service in the Wehrmacht

If the Germans pay a pension for service in the Wehrmacht, then there is nothing shameful for a real Jew to be a Wehrmacht veteran)))
Sorry for the stereotypes))

[Professor]

Quote: Octopus

Quote: professor

Why are thousands of Soviet citizens working in mines not considered to be serving in the Wehrmacht, and thousands of Hungarian Jews in the same situation are counted as serving in the Wehrmacht? Where is the logic, Carl? Why after the liberation of the Jews counted as prisoners of service in the Wehrmacht

If the Germans pay a pension for service in the Wehrmacht, then there is nothing shameful for a real Jew to be a Wehrmacht veteran)))
Sorry for the stereotypes))

Do not judge others by yourself. We will not count how many people of YOUR nationality have worked for Hitler, we are talking about something else. I did not receive an answer to the questions asked, but only a spit in the direction of the dead. There will be no answers, as I understand it.

[Octopus]

Quote: professor

We will not count how many people of your nationality have worked for Hitler

The situation is different with me. I am absolutely not going to show people of OUR nationality who worked there 80 years ago for Hitler or, I do not know, Stalin.

It's not for me to judge them. Especially not for me to present something to their grandchildren. I am not Putin.

[Operator]

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did the Jewish liberation army exist to capture Palestine with 50 snouts of both sexes?
Trotsky, with his idea of ​​a world revolution, was ... an agent of Jewish capital?

You confuse God's gift (army) with fried eggs (saboteurs)

Trotsky was an agent of American Jewish capital (Jacob Schiff and others who initially financed the Bund, the RSDLP and the Socialist Revolutionary Party). The same applies to Ulyanov, Hitler and Mussolini, who in emigration had the same controller from Jewish sponsors - Angelica Isaakovna Balabanova.

Dzhugashvili was lucky - he was not bound by obligations to Jewish capital.

[32363]

By the way, this was also such.
Quran with a swastika.

[Doctor]

Quran with swastika

Interesting. What is the topic?

[NF68]

Better Madagascar than German concentration camps.

[kiril1246]

Quote: Operator

enthusiastic comments and greetings from the Jewish press of Germany after the appointment of Hitler to the post of Reich Chancellor in January 1933

Can you give a link?

[Professor]

Quote: kiril1246

Quote: Operator

enthusiastic comments and greetings from the Jewish press of Germany after the appointment of Hitler to the post of Reich Chancellor in January 1933

Can you give a link?

Can not. This is a famous fat troll. Do not feed it.

[Fishery]

eventually to Madagascar) that is, the Nazis left for Argentina and Panama, well, who managed.

[kiril1246]

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eventually to Madagascar) that is, the Nazis left for Argentina and Panama, well, who managed.

As well as millions of Germans who left the eastern lands after the war. When a neighbor’s house is set on fire, it’s no wonder that he himself remains in the ashes.

[Dym71]

I don’t like our president’s phrase about Lipsky, for this is history, but I look at the second photo of Jozef in the article and find myself thinking that our Darkest is not so wrong

[Octopus]

Quote: Dym71

however, I look at the second photo of Jozef in the article and catch myself thinking

Do you know that Lipsky personally fought with the Germans in France and Italy?

[Dym71]

Quote: Octopus

Do you know that Lipsky personally fought with the Germans in France and Italy?

And what does this fact fundamentally change? Among the conspirators on July 20 there were also anti-Semites.

[Uncle Izya]

Here, in a previous article, the professor stood up for Poland, so before the Germans arrived, the Poles managed to kill half a million Jews and helped the Nazis exterminate, and after the war there were Jewish pogroms. Why shouldn’t I write to the professor on sites like channel 9?

[kiril1246]

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By the way, this was also such.
Quran with a swastika.

Question of what year is this Quran? Before Hitler came to power, the swastika was a completely legitimate symbol and was widely used in the east.

[Andrzej k]

"Jews to Birobidzhan!" How the USSR got rid of the Jews ", or hypocrisy, your name.

[voyaka uh]

The article and comments lead to a clear postulate:
wonderful that the Jewish state of Israel exists
with a strong army, the latest technology in all areas and nuclear weapons.

[Maki Avellevich]

inspired:
Successful running succeeds, not brave - victory, not wise - bread, and not rational - wealth, and not skillful - favor, but time and chance for all of them.
Ecclesiastes (Ch. 9, Art. 11)

[Octopus]

Quote: voyaka uh

wonderful that the Jewish state of Israel exists
with a strong army, the latest technology in all areas and nuclear weapons.

Of course. This is the only solution to the problem of friendship between the Jewish and all other peoples.

[unknown]

In ancient languages, the words "Jew" and "Aryan" not only sound similar, but also have the same meaning "man".
"Jew" and "European" are just short and long pronunciations. "Europe" is a country, from the word "side", "Jews", that is, "Europeans", that is, people.
The generally accepted, in the minds of most people, the phenotype of Jews is in fact an "Armenian" phenotype. After WWII, a study was conducted in West Germany, as a result of which it turned out that blue-eyed blondes among those who consider themselves Jewish are an order of magnitude more than among those who consider themselves German.
So, there is no common phenotype. There is no common genotype either. There is no language. Hebrew is an artificial language created at the end of the nineteenth century. There is no historical territory. It is enough to recall that in the second half of the 40s of the last century the idea of ​​creating a Jewish republic in Crimea arose.
What is there? Only religion. Judaism. Morozov translated its meaning as "praising God". There is a simpler translation: Jewish-ideological.
In fact, a people created from a religious sect, with certain elements of the estate.
And dislike is explained by usury, a deed not at all pleasing. Not all representatives of this sect-estate engaged in usury, but propaganda requires simple decisions based on primary, base instincts.

[Tests]

Field Marshal pilot Edward Milch, apparently, was from the Eskimos. The colonel, cavalier of the Knight's Cross, the Golden German Cross, and the Iron Cross of two degrees, the artilleryman and anti-tanker Walter Hollander, most likely, was from Pimei by his mother. Wehrmacht captain Werner Goldberg, it seems, was from the native inhabitants of Australia.
On June 30, 1944, it turned out that a special train, provided by the Nazis for 1700 relatives and acquaintances of a thoroughbred, it seems, Chinese, Rudolph (Rare) Israel Katzner (Kastner) did not leave Hungary.
And on board the steamer "Patria" "traitors" - Czechoslovak young Jews who planned to fight the Nazis with weapons in their hands in the army of General Freedom, and not build a bright future in Palestine, was arranged by Robert Mandler, who was born in marriage, apparently from a Kirghiz woman and a Uighur ...
Peacocks, you say, hmm!