A look from America: The world elite has achieved its goals

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We have to admit the fact that the basis of modern society already in Russia is the transfer of everything and everything into money, attempts to measure with money everything that is possible and that is impossible. It is this version of thinking that our country adopted from the Anglo-Saxon world, becoming its reflection.

One of the western trends is the complete regulation of family relations. This is the very juvenile justice that defines the system of values ​​for the child - one that she puts at the forefront.



The world elite has actually created a society, the bulk of the people in which it becomes easy if not controlled, then manipulated. With the help of certain measures of influence, including propaganda of the meaning of life associated with consumption, individuals or their groups are brought under certain goals and objectives. These goals and objectives of the world elites have been formulated for a long time: to consider a person as a source of profit. And it is absolutely clear that representatives of elite clubs pay the least attention to the presence of an individual’s own interests. And if these interests interfere with making money on a person, then he certainly does not promise anything good.

Irina Mukhina, Big Data consultant, is thinking about this issue on the Day TV channel. Material with a look from America is presented in the video:

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  1. +36
    5 January 2020 21: 02
    China has not yet yielded. Yes, there is a semi-capitalist system, but with regard to human, family values, they still have traditional ones. But in Russia, this juvenile system is systematically, step by step, being introduced. This is done for a reason. The family in Russia has always been a stronghold of the sovereignty of the country. They went to the war to protect, first of all, the family, relatives, home, and land.
    1. +19
      5 January 2020 21: 18
      Fans of capitalism is dedicated ....
      1. +7
        5 January 2020 22: 40
        Quote: Finches
        Fans of capitalism is dedicated ....

        I agree that the proletariat has nothing to lose.
        1. +3
          5 January 2020 22: 43
          Except your chains!

          Although I personally, in the classical revolutionary scenario, will be attributed by the proletariat to the gold mine ... and! laughing
          1. +10
            6 January 2020 08: 11
            no need to worry too much. Zolotopogonny did not serve poorly in the Red Army, during the civil defense. So welkam in our proletarian ranks. laughing
            1. +2
              6 January 2020 08: 12
              wildly sorry for the mistake in "GV" -so
              1. +13
                6 January 2020 08: 37
                It is up to the small thing to organize such a party, with such a charismatic leader who can unite the proletariat and who will be followed by the majority of the people! And here is the big problem! I myself am a supporter of leftist ideas, even more - a Bolshevik, but we do not have such a party today!
                1. +5
                  6 January 2020 11: 48
                  she will be, patamusha cannot but be. Expel the filthy broom of Zyu, as having compromised the very left idea in the Russian Federation, first of all. wassat The left idea is far from dead!
                2. -1
                  6 January 2020 22: 27
                  Quote: Finches
                  but we don’t have such a party today!

                  party of the Bolsheviks, was able to rely on theory. The formulations of Marx's theory do not fully correspond to the spirit of today's times, therefore they are incomprehensible to many. 100 years ago everything was clear: here he is an exploiter, he appropriates your labor, beat him, take what is yours !!! Now a huge amount of labor is done by machines, there are whole factories that sew jeans where there is not a single seamstress. Today's man is the distributor and consumer of material "goods" produced by mechanisms. Therefore, there is no conflict! because there is no labor! However, there is a serious struggle for ENERGY. If we take the postulate of Marx that COST IS LABOR INCLUDED IN THE GOODS and replace it with the COST THIS ENERGY INCLUDED IN THE GOODS, then everything falls into place !!! Today's exploiters do not appropriate our defective labor, they have appropriated the right to dispose of energy resources hidden in the depths ... Our share!
                  Quote: Finches
                  The point is small - to organize such a party, with such a charismatic leader,
                  The charisma of such a leader will be that he will simply promise consumers their share of the wells returned to the people, and the people will rise !!!
                  1. +5
                    6 January 2020 23: 33
                    the people will not rise. the consumer does not rise, he waits for another possibility of consumption, if the previous one has disappeared, the revolutionary component arises only in a destitute mass, where there is no substitute (alternative) for existence, because suddenly there is destruction, and there are no opportunities! only the destitute are capable of revolution ......
                  2. +3
                    7 January 2020 00: 28
                    Here with the theory you are right to the point! The last contribution to the theory was made by Iosif Vissarionovich "The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR", he even forbade the publication of a textbook on political economy, because the realities went further and further from Marx, but Lenin also understood this! Then socialism just went with the flow ... Temporary workers came to power! Clowns - like Khrushchev!
                  3. +1
                    7 January 2020 11: 45
                    Yeah. So they gave the wells. And now a new old theory - "the fight against Bolshevism". And stop the sides ala the Communist Party of the Soviet Union 26. Also a snack, but then. Dilemma.
                3. +4
                  7 January 2020 01: 32
                  Then this party will have to work underground, since all kinds of legitimate opportunities to take power are killed by modern legislation and any such attempt is considered to undermine statehood. On the one hand, the unlimited power of the elite and oligarchs, on the other hand, the lack of real rights for the people! Once a year a Russian can try his luck and talk with the president .....)))
                  1. 0
                    7 January 2020 11: 52
                    The last sentence about "... to chat ..." looks very Good !, but (historically) very short in time. Fall asleep, it's already visible. Feedback from the bottom up must be effective. Carrot and stick. Here are two mutual complementary! each other. Already gone ... only Gingerbread. The stick is lost. Whoever offers an Effective Stick (with a carrot, of course), they will go for that. And one whip also has no road and will not be. If not corrected-26KPSS is waiting.
                    1. +2
                      8 January 2020 16: 24
                      The format of communication between the president and the people is not the best format for communicating with the people. This is a performance, and decisions are important for the people by a group who have forgotten where they came from!
                  2. 0
                    7 January 2020 12: 16
                    Quote: Campanella
                    since all kinds of legitimate opportunity to take power are killed by modern legislation

                    why ?, and is not the struggle for a progressive scale of taxation a kind of struggle for social equality?
                    1. +2
                      8 January 2020 16: 22
                      A fight? There is a struggle, there is no result and will not be. Forces must be proportionate. It is clear that there is nothing eternal and this regime will someday run out of steam and end with a bloody and senseless revolution. Alas and ah, man cannot be defeated in his passions, which end in failure ... Although I still believe in the rational in man. If you think about it, the world is controlled only by electrical impulses in the head of a powerful individual.
                      Which it is not clear what forms, a vessel burst in the head .... and there is no whole country! Burst another and went reboot ...
                      1. +1
                        8 January 2020 22: 29
                        Quote: Campanella
                        A fight? There is a struggle, there is no result and will not be. Forces must be proportionate

                        in fact, there is an eternal struggle for the minds of people. Or unite and decide by common forces, or according to the law of the jungle. Christ, even, was somewhere in the beginning. Let me remind you that public consciousness is the level of the average person. that is, it is necessary to fight for him, the only average person, not to let him forget, thanks to which we won the Second World War, that he would understand the differences between socialism and social democracy .... That it is not necessary to fight with the West, it’s a bad tone to personify the enemy nationally, or territorial basis. need to fight with capitalism
                      2. +3
                        9 January 2020 13: 21
                        I agree that capitalism is the enemy. But the problem is hidden in the person himself. The USSR made an attempt to form a "new man", but time has shown that this state is very unstable and works in a limited manner, and in extreme situations instincts take over.
                        Therefore, as the greats said "life-struggle". And our task is to play the situation in favor of good and restore social equality and, if possible, gain a foothold on these frontiers.
                      3. 0
                        9 January 2020 13: 40
                        Quote: Campanella
                        But the problem is hidden in the person himself. The USSR tried to form a "new man", but time has shown that this state is very unstable

                        Man, this means the levels of consciousness of the average person in society.
                        These levels are formed in the family, society and the information field. They are formed precisely !!! After the USSR of Stalin and the USSR, these are different countries. Recently I met a document where Stalin categorically banned socialist competition! that it provokes unnecessary praise .... etc ..
                        Any kind of animal has certain social instincts. Herd for example. From modern man it is carefully etched. Please note that not a single advertisement advertises a product as such; they advertise a lifestyle. Pay attention to how young children react to advertising - like a fairy tale with a happy ending! And not time showed, but broke the deep level of the Soviet man, simply by distributing the AIDS INFO and Solzhenitsyn in every kiosk. For when in a society where it’s shameful to put on a short skirt and gets divorced, they suddenly propagate blue, a crack in the brain is inevitable !!!
                      4. +1
                        9 January 2020 15: 42
                        I don’t know what depth of the level can be discussed if it is broken by elementary reading of the tabloid press.
                        If in two or three sentences you can set your brother against brother? The social instincts tied to survival are real depth. Everything else is adjusted.
                        Knowledge of the world, of man is still very far from the full picture of the reality in which we live.
                      5. 0
                        9 January 2020 19: 25
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Knowledge of the world, of man is still very far from the full picture of the reality in which we live.

                        Man, for a specialist this is both an open book and a blank, he is calculated and predictable. Making a beast out of a man is easy! Goebbels propaganda example. Moreover, this beast will consider itself an overhuman. I think that these technologies are far ahead today. The USSR launched them a little bit in the form of a tabloid press and there is no country, no competitor.
                        Quote: Campanella
                        it is broken by elementary reading of the tabloid press.

                        There is an element of intimacy in the tabloid press, this greatly enhances the perception, especially of young individuals
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          2. -2
            6 January 2020 08: 24
            Whitehunters ........
      2. +24
        6 January 2020 02: 58
        Quote: Finches
        Lovers of capitalism

      3. 0
        7 January 2020 16: 18
        Please tell me, which country was the first in the world to legalize abortion, and from whom?
    2. +31
      5 January 2020 22: 27
      But in Russia, this juvenile system is systematically, step by step, being introduced. This is done for a reason. The family in Russia has always been a stronghold of the sovereignty of the country. They went to the war to protect, first of all, the family, relatives, home, and land.

      The thing is that usually, to change the mentality of the people - it takes more than one century. This can be traced to the assimilation of new conquered territories, assimilation stretches for centuries. The basis of resistance to conquest is family.
      Why is that ? Let me explain by the example of the USSR-how people broke on their knees. The most easily suggested and programmed material is the child. Any manipulator knows that the most difficult thing to manipulate is to gain primary authority in a person. At first, in a child, parents enjoy the greatest authority, then, as he grows, the child tries to begin to compare and analyze. If both parents are well educated and developed, then intercepting the control of their child is very difficult, but possible. Most parents do not possess such qualities and therefore they send their children to schools. At school, if we ignore and take to the maximum - the ideal teacher, there is an initial interception of control (authority). The student unknowingly compares the level of development of the teacher and parents, and if the comparison is in favor of the teacher, the child begins to accept the point of view of the teacher as the ultimate truth, which does not require proof. Ie interception of control (manipulation) has occurred. The knowledge of the child at this age - like a blank sheet of paper - you can write anything on it - the child will still be fanatical in this belief. It is at this stage that all world religions lay their mentality in people.
      But back to the USSR - the communists got down to business too briskly - and began to program a new type of people. Exactly since the first grade. Marxism-Leninism, rejection of private property and so on. So, the child comes home from school, tries to rethink the information received and asks for advice from the parents. And this moment is archival, no not - it is ARCHIVAL for the development of the child's mentality. If we assume that the state is trying to harm the child - the notorious tolerance in Europe at the moment, then the parents can tell the child that everything that was told him at school today is a lie. Thus, creating incredible difficulties for the manipulator. In addition to mom and dad, there are also grandparents who also help resist manipulation. Thus, stretching the process of reformatting mentality for centuries. It has always been that way. In the USSR, manipulation was handled in one generation. At school, the interception of authority went over, and teachers directly dropped the authority of parents in the eyes of children, telling them that only teachers should be obeyed, and the parents are dark and uneducated and understand little. Remember even the films of those years when the pioneers tried to change their parents. As a result, a generation of people has grown up, completely without critical thinking, believing any teacher as God. The parental authority was humiliated and trampled, and there was no one to tell the still green youth how to act at the crossroads. The children did not listen to their "retarded" parents. That is why people believed so easily in Western propaganda - they believed in them as in new teachers and did not listen to their parents at all. This is a very, very powerful level of manipulating - destroying the authority of elders - in fact, a person until old age, mentally makes a child. This is all and modern manipulation is calculated - to change the mentality in one generation - and the family is the main brake on this, therefore, the family will be hit in the first place.
      And now let’s look at Asian countries - the authority of parents is simply indisputable there (remember the Caucasus), and the school does not break it. Or the same rabbis among the Jews. That is why Judaism and Islam are stable for a long time and it is not one generation's business to break traditional fanaticism there.
      At the moment, in fact, we are not protected from Western propaganda, and this is at an in-depth level. Previously, the church dealt with these issues of countering mental propaganda, but its authority was destroyed as early as 1917.
      Therefore, I repeat, we are defenseless, and I do not see the strength in Russia that would do this at a fundamental level - we do not have an ideology, religion used to perform its functions, then the party, and now there is nothing.
      1. +7
        5 January 2020 22: 57
        "People are the new oil" - that's right. A law on the "presumption of posthumous donation" will soon be adopted ...
        1. -2
          5 January 2020 22: 59
          A law on the "presumption of posthumous donation" will soon be adopted ...

          Unfortunately, it will be so - the brain does not need so much to function as soon as they solve the problem of transplantation into a new, young body - some will be able to live for hundreds of years .....
        2. +3
          6 January 2020 06: 15
          You've seen enough of The Matrix, sir ...
        3. -1
          6 January 2020 12: 32
          But in Belarus this issue has long been resolved positively and the Doctor is obliged to call a transplant team in case of ascertaining the patient’s death, therefore there are no transplant lines and 100% of sick Belarus citizens are provided, for example, with donor kidneys, in Russia there is also a presumption of consent, but it doesn’t approved by law, doctors are afraid of problems and people are waiting in line for up to 3 years and not everyone will wait, in Europe, Belgium and Holland the presumption of consent, in Germany, written permission and wait for the line for a young man practical cally impossible 10 years to reach the dialyzer is very difficult, so do not rant on this topic.
          And rich people and without a presumption can solve this problem for a moderate fee
      2. +18
        5 January 2020 23: 42
        Quote: lucul
        we do not have an ideology, before its functions were performed by religion, then by the party, and now there is nothing.

        You are right in many ways ... but why bother with a garden with such, though worthy of thought, but complicated ...
        A simple historical example that we have been formatted for a long time (based on the modern writing of the history of Russia), how did it happen that the Slavs (Rusichs) came from this story in the 6th century and immediately went to beat Byzantium? It’s the same as now the Zimbabweans gathered and went to destroy the USA successfully. But for some reason, about Zimbabwe, we immediately smile and understand that this is bullshit, but about Russians, that they were sitting somewhere, and then decided to go to beat the Byzantines (at that time a strong empire, by the way), we accept the truth . I mean, the Rus were not some kind of wild tribes, but they were a state, at least in power not inferior to the great empire.
        1. +6
          6 January 2020 00: 45
          You have an extremely simplified, and therefore incorrect view of history.
          Firstly, it is not necessary for Russians to put brackets behind the Slavs. There are many different Slavs, and Rusichs are just one of the branches.
          Secondly, they did not appear out of nowhere in the 6th century, but switched to settled in this period.
          Thirdly, successful trips mean absolutely nothing. The Romans for the history of the ancient Roman state grabbed absolutely from all their enemies, without exception.
          If we are talking about Byzantium, it was not the Slavs who destroyed the empire.
          If we are talking about Zimbabwe, then the Zulus asked pepper, if not the United States, but the English.
          And about the fact that the Russians were wild tribes, then this is a Nazi view of things. Not a single academic source adheres to this point of view. Not a single recognized modern historian has ever written about this.
          1. +5
            6 January 2020 07: 48
            forty-eight. I am more and more convinced that history has long ceased to be a science. It has become the property of the authorities.
            1. sss
              +10
              6 January 2020 08: 22
              Was it ever a science? All historians will now attack me, well, let them. I studied for ist. faculty from 1987 to 1993 (graduated). So - during the study, the "historical approach" changed several times, sometimes they did not have time to pass the session, and the interpretation of events is already the opposite. It is worth remembering that Cleo was the muse - the patroness of history. This is one of the companions and heterosexuals
              (count whores) Apollo, by the way, all the other muses are no better. It's amazing how the muse of astronomy got in there? History is written with bayonets or with the help of the "golden calf"
              1. 0
                6 January 2020 20: 16
                Dear Sergey (sss)! History cannot be defeated! Yes, "ordinary people" actively and daringly try to do it. Especially in this 3st century. There is, for example, a new "trick" of the villains - to deprive people of HEROES. "Shit everything and everyone!" Banquet, "hikhanki-khakhanki" ... Headlines from the "yellowish" magazine "about history": "Barbarians-migrants defeated invincible Roman legions", "Theotokos promised to help", "Samurai from a torpedo" (elsewhere - "riding on torpedo ")," Courage and recklessness brought the French king to captivity "... Like:" And now you have no heroes and then there weren't either ... "Moreover, they are filthy all over the world. Recently I watched a Japanese film .... There is SUCH "dregs" about a saint, about self-sacrifice in the name of the Motherland! He should go for the last attack, and he supposedly thinks about playing ... golf. I haven't played enough! Filthy delusional nonsense aimed at corrupting the soul of the Japanese people. Well, let alone swine in Russian history "God himself (their hydrogen sulfide" god ") ordered them. But this is a normal phenomenon - a normal war of Light and Darkness (the word" darkness "was written not out of respect, but for your understanding that" kingdom "it's serious enough.) And to defend their History for PEOPLE! Our enemies are naturally not interested in it. We are consumables for them. To fool - and to a concentration camp. Such is the reality. Look how festive Moscow is" taught "year after year to admire" alien-cosmonauts. "And you do not LEARN! Known for his" winged "phrases, the would-be politician teaches you that the state is not characterized by" paternalistic relations "with the people. And you do not listen to that, but Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin:" Brothers and sisters! My friends ... "(Speech on July 1941, XNUMX). You yourself learn to understand History, you yourself decide which side to take
          2. +2
            6 January 2020 11: 28
            Secondly, they did not appear out of nowhere in the 6th century, but switched to settled in this period.

            What ...
            Well if moved to settledthen it was wandering before?
            The first time I hear a similar interpretation of history.
      3. +2
        6 January 2020 08: 18
        Good analysis.

        Not everything is so bad, I see a woman as such a force - she is the first to sing a lullaby and gives the most powerful settings. In addition, it is closer to nature and can not be reprogrammed, women were suppressed, burned, but could not change their nature.
        1. 0
          6 January 2020 15: 34
          Quote: MrFox
          Good analysis.

          Not everything is so bad, I see a woman as such a force - she is the first to sing a lullaby and gives the most powerful settings. In addition, it is closer to nature and can not be reprogrammed, women were suppressed, burned, but could not change their nature.

          Nevertheless, the main backbone of supporters of juvenile and interference in the family by the state is feminists. Any, but, nevertheless, women. Among the anti-feminists (they are male chauvinists), something is not observed by supporters of the above senility.
          1. +2
            6 January 2020 20: 12
            Feminists are a mutation, a deviation from the rule
            1. +2
              6 January 2020 20: 25
              Nevertheless, they exist, and in the West their numbers are already exceeding the permissible limit necessary for the survival of mankind.
              I mean, belonging to a certain gender does not guarantee the existence of a correct worldview and the desire to pass it on to offspring. Not only one gender affair, but also education, the inner core.
              1. 0
                6 January 2020 22: 00
                Genders are not equal, the role of women in the beginning of a child’s life is much higher.

                As for feminists, this leads to degeneration, which means that it will be so. Nature is wise and over millions of years of evolution has already rejected many unsuccessful options.
                1. +2
                  6 January 2020 22: 06
                  Genders are not equal, the role of women in the beginning of a child’s life is much higher

                  In early childhood, in infants. Further, the man will cope if he has a desire.
                  1. +1
                    6 January 2020 22: 47
                    Exactly
      4. +2
        6 January 2020 12: 06
        Quote: lucul
        and teachers directly dropped the authority of the parents in the eyes of the children, telling them that only teachers should obey, and the parents are dark and uneducated and understand little

        ====
        and where did you get the idea that parents were different from teachers? they, like all others, built a new society and socialism
        1. +2
          6 January 2020 12: 08
          and where did you get the idea that parents were different from teachers? they, like all others, built a new society and socialism

          That is why the kulaks dispossessed?
          People are used to working for themselves, not for the idea ....
          1. +2
            6 January 2020 12: 15
            Quote: lucul
            and where did you get the idea that parents were different from teachers? they, like all others, built a new society and socialism

            That is why the kulaks dispossessed?
            People are used to working for themselves, not for the idea ....

            ====
            In pre-revolutionary Russia, about 80 percent of the population was poor, plus world and civil war, disruption and other added discontent, so most of them accepted / believed / built a new society
            1. +3
              6 January 2020 12: 31
              therefore, the majority also accepted / believed / built a new society

              That is why there was a Civil War - which is not the majority.
              1. 0
                6 January 2020 12: 49
                Quote: lucul
                therefore, the majority also accepted / believed / built a new society

                That is why there was a civil war - which is not the majority.

                ===
                I didn’t want to part with power and property, but there were still ideological, deceived, recruited, here you have the whole minority
                1. +1
                  6 January 2020 12: 57
                  I didn’t want to part with power and property, but there were still ideological, deceived, recruited, here you have the whole minority

                  It was the people who fought against the people, and not the bureaucrats and the aristocracy against the people, as you were told.
                  1. 0
                    6 January 2020 13: 04
                    Quote: lucul
                    I didn’t want to part with power and property, but there were still ideological, deceived, recruited, here you have the whole minority

                    It was the people who fought against the people and not bureaucrats and aristocracy against the people, as you were told.

                    ===
                    inspired, dear, to you. I don’t need to suggest it.
                  2. 0
                    6 January 2020 15: 25
                    It was the people who fought against the people, and not the bureaucrats and the aristocracy against the people, as you were told .....

                    That's right. On both sides were all classes. Many examples of the same nobles who were fighting for the Reds survived the 30s. And safely lived to old age.
                2. 0
                  6 January 2020 19: 07
                  And with what fright should a person part with property? Ask any entrepreneur at what cost he got his business. It is labor, labor, and labor again.
                  1. +4
                    6 January 2020 22: 45
                    And the exploitation of someone else. I can imagine how much work it took to take over, for example, some metallurgical plant.
      5. +1
        6 January 2020 22: 35
        +++ family is probably the deepest level of public consciousness and if it becomes unsteady, nations disappear, crowds of consumers remain ....
      6. 0
        7 January 2020 11: 58
        Hence the absence of schools and not schools. Dark people are easier to manipulate through the media. And in your words about religion (the same school), albeit at a lower level, but still with a capital letter.
    3. +6
      5 January 2020 23: 40
      Quote: kjhg
      China does not give in yet

      China - made itself on a human resource by selling it for investment. Control and manipulation mechanisms - there are no worse (if not better) Anglo-Saxon ones. One of their social rating systems is the murder on the spot of an individual with his individual interests, which is so sad about in this article.
      1. 0
        6 January 2020 12: 28
        Quote: ⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣Geo
        Control and manipulation mechanisms - there are no worse (if not better) Anglo-Saxon ones.


        Totally agree.
    4. +2
      6 January 2020 12: 27
      Quote: kjhg
      China has not yet yielded. Yes, there is a semi-capitalist system, but with regard to human, family values, they still have traditional ones.


      China was the first in the world to introduce a social rating system. This is, in fact, the highest degree of direct management of society. Western "builders of human relations" have never dreamed of this. China is not the opposite of the totalitarian society that is being built in the West. He is his ally in this. Russia is the only country now that can prevent the worldwide triumph of Satanism. We have no allies in this. Unfortunately.
      1. +1
        6 January 2020 22: 41
        Quote: Arkon
        Russia is the only country now that can impede the worldwide triumph of Satanism. We have no allies in this. Unfortunately.

        we have a lot of Satanism .... It’s just that older people still have a memory of the idea of ​​social equality, the memory of the war is still being cultivated, where the Soviet people defeated Satanism and if we do not remove the drapery from the Mausoleum during the Victory Parade we will lose completely!
    5. 0
      7 January 2020 13: 15
      Yes, everything in China is the same. Capitalism under the leadership of the CCP. I have not been to China, but I talked with the Chinese.
  2. +8
    5 January 2020 21: 07
    What an elite is Satanists.
  3. +13
    5 January 2020 21: 22
    I watched this video today. And he watched videos with the Bulgarian politician Plamen Plaskov. From peoples make universal fodder plankton for the purposes of the world elite, the trends are the same everywhere, in Bulgaria, in Russia (Ukraine, Greece, etc.). The so-called national elite has no subjectivity, that is, it is completely controlled from abroad. Therefore, you can declare anything, but in fact we will have the bombing of Voronezh-pension reform, the struggle with the incomes of the lower layers of the population, taxes on snow and air, and so on.
  4. +2
    5 January 2020 21: 32
    The class of capitalists and the bourgeoisie parasitizes and oppresses the classes of workers and peasants, as well as labor intelligentsia.
    A flame will ignite from a spark.
    1. +4
      5 January 2020 22: 51
      Quote: 75Sergey
      The class of capitalists and the bourgeoisie parasitizes and oppresses the classes of workers and peasants, as well as labor intelligentsia.

      You can immediately see the young generation, they did not study the classics, but comrade is moving in the right direction.
    2. +1
      5 January 2020 22: 59
      And after the flame remains the ashes.
      1. 0
        6 January 2020 09: 32
        And on this ashes a society of equal citizens is being built. Highly developed, prosperous, with high spirituality and limiting the predatory instincts of individual individuals, into the flesh before planting in a cage or elimination, if it continues to click with fangs.
        1. +4
          6 January 2020 11: 31
          If it works out. As a rule, lining up is not what they dreamed about. They wanted the best, but got it as always. Where will you find these most highly spiritual?
          1. 0
            9 January 2020 13: 42
            It was in our country until the end of the 80s of the last century. The presence of skins and grabbers, at this time, does not mean the absence of spirituality and human, good neighborly relations in society. The family is not without a freak, but now they prevail.
    3. 0
      6 January 2020 22: 45
      Quote: 75Sergey
      the classes of workers and peasants parasitize and oppress,

      the workers and peasants have become self-employed, while the capitalists and the bourgeoisie have turned into Gazprom shareholders and deputies. There is no connection between them, due to the lack of exploitation. smile
  5. -9
    5 January 2020 22: 02
    Quote: 75Sergey
    A flame will ignite from a spark.

    am in which the working class will burn again. Threat communism and ak47 tore slaves from europe in africa that blyiiv50th in all these dermocrats. Derma this skin in Medeutsinsky drinks
    1. +2
      5 January 2020 22: 28
      Better to fall in the fight than to rot under your heel.
      1. -1
        5 January 2020 23: 01
        In the fight for what? For a society of general poverty?
        1. +11
          5 January 2020 23: 25
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          In the fight for what? For a society of general poverty?

          Dear, you raise your questions so subcutaneously that I simply marvel at your ingenuity.
          And so, what is WELL-BEING. Open the dictionary (not modern) and read is a synonym for happiness. And now the question is, but WEALTH is your happiness?
          The roots of these words are GOOD, GOD have absolutely nothing to do with money. And they are relevant only in the case of, say, the religion of the Golden Calf.
        2. +1
          6 January 2020 00: 40
          A society of equality, everything is in abundance.
          1. -1
            6 January 2020 06: 35
            This is utopia and history has proved it.
            1. +4
              6 January 2020 09: 38
              history hasn’t proved anything like that. If the elites betrayed the USSR, this does not mean that the people do not have a request for an ideology and social structure similar to that in the country of the Soviets. Quite the contrary, either it will come to the same thing, or it will not be either. Worldwide.
              1. -2
                6 January 2020 11: 38
                And what was so good in the country of the Soviets? Where were the Soviets, that is, the people elected, only for decoration, but ruled by party functionaries? I agree, it is necessary to build a new society, but certainly not on communist principles.
                1. 0
                  7 January 2020 12: 02
                  But you have to start with this.! I repeat, start. But do not wait 26KPSS.!
            2. +3
              6 January 2020 12: 37
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              This is utopia and history has proved it.

              The history of the world has been rewritten so many times that it is said that it proved something stupid there.
            3. +1
              6 January 2020 22: 50
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              This is utopia and history has proved it.

              you are wrong dear! The goal of the CPSU under Stalin was: "The all-round development of the personality of every Soviet person and an increase in his well-being." Under Khrushchev, a course was proclaimed for maximum satisfaction of needs Soviet people. And satisfaction of needs is already a course towards capitalism, for needs are of a lower order and of opportunity, and, at the same time, of a higher laughing
              1. -7
                6 January 2020 23: 12
                Quote: aybolyt678
                The goal of the CPSU under Stalin was: "The all-round development of the personality of every Soviet person and an increase in his well-being."

                Only then there were few Soviet people. And while they were deciding at meetings how much it was better for them to build communism, Soviet citizens (and this is already different) for rations and seats on the bunks in the Gulag and on its doorstep half-starved and cold plowed like Papa Carlo.
                Quote: aybolyt678
                Under Khrushchev, a course was proclaimed on the maximum satisfaction of the needs of Soviet people.

                Khrushchev slightly expanded the number of Soviet people. Introduced there some of those who were "defeatists" under Dzhugashvil. Those. was struck in rights. And he was like a half-man.
                Quote: aybolyt678
                And satisfaction of needs is already a course on capitalism,

                Before capitalism, even the Russian Federation is still like cancer before .... And the USSR was just insanely far from there.
                Zombies are afraid of capitalism. Yes, they simply will not survive capitalism in the Russian Federation. This is only crows for 200 years live.
                1. +1
                  7 January 2020 00: 03
                  Quote: e-sam
                  for soldering and a place on the plank beds in the Gulag

                  now there are more alcoholics and drug addicts than prisoners in that Gulag ...
                  Quote: e-sam
                  Khrushchev slightly expanded the number of Soviet people.

                  introduced the hidden bourgeoisie wink
                  Quote: e-sam
                  Introduced there some of those who were "defeatists" under Dzhugashvil.
                  yeah, and withdrew introduced into the Central Committee of the CPSU, many of which were even non-partisan !!!!

                  Quote: e-sam
                  Before capitalism, even the Russian Federation, like cancer before
                  - ?????
                  1. -2
                    7 January 2020 00: 27
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    now there are more alcoholics and drug addicts than prisoners in that Gulag ..

                    So what? What's up with that?
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    introduced the hidden bourgeoisie

                    What bourgeoisie? Even in Russia, the bourgeoisie smells only in places, and very rarely. Where does the bourgeoisie come from in the USSR?
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    - ?????

                    Everything is written there.
                    Learn what "capitalism" is.
                    And what is the "bourgeoisie".
                    1. 0
                      7 January 2020 12: 20
                      Quote: e-sam
                      Where does the bourgeoisie come from in the USSR?

                      the hidden bourgeoisie were: party and trade unionists, trade workers with access to deficit, in the national republics relatives of the party nomenclature ....
                      1. ssm
                        0
                        7 January 2020 12: 26
                        Are you raving?
                        You are completely uneducated. You don’t even know what the bourgeoisie is.
                      2. -1
                        7 January 2020 14: 27
                        Quote: ssm
                        You are completely uneducated.

                        am I uneducated? I have a degree, but do I throw beads here ??? smile
                    2. 0
                      7 January 2020 12: 22
                      Quote: e-sam
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      now there are more alcoholics and drug addicts than prisoners in that Gulag ..

                      So what? What's up with that?

                      a person’s life and work were valued ... than letting people work better for the benefit of society. Some rigidity in the fight against banditry and drug addiction is justified. Figures for socialism smile
                      1. ssm
                        -3
                        7 January 2020 12: 27
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        than letting him die from drug addiction, alcohol, suicide, it would be better if they worked for the good of society.

                        And you are also a scoundrel. Over.
                        However, communicating with the Soviet for some reason, I am not surprised.
              2. -1
                8 January 2020 12: 31
                Quote: aybolyt678
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                This is utopia and history has proved it.

                you are wrong dear! The goal of the CPSU under Stalin was: "The all-round development of the personality of every Soviet person and an increase in his well-being." Under Khrushchev, a course was proclaimed for maximum satisfaction of needs Soviet people. And satisfaction of needs is already a course towards capitalism, for needs are of a lower order and of opportunity, and, at the same time, of a higher laughing

                You are the wrong capitalist! Or, let’s say so - almost like Engels. Yes

                It is pleasant that there are people among the bourgeoisie. hi
        3. +1
          7 January 2020 10: 55
          A society of general poverty - which is now. Here it is necessary to fight against this.
          1. -1
            7 January 2020 12: 38
            Such poverty is good - there’s nowhere to park in the evening.
            1. +1
              7 January 2020 14: 27
              Yes. Auto trash a lot. Bushy Japanese.
              1. 0
                7 January 2020 15: 01
                Where did the Japanese come from in St. Petersburg? We have prul - a curiosity.
                1. +1
                  7 January 2020 15: 07
                  I do not live in St. Petersburg. We also have a lot of cars, but most of them are auto trash. Now measuring the state of having a car is stupid.
            2. 0
              7 January 2020 14: 31
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Such poverty is good - there’s nowhere to park in the evening.

              poverty, in the sense of a development perspective. Tear a man out of the usual circle and he is a beggar, send a Muscovite to Omsk or Magadan and end him !!
              1. -1
                7 January 2020 15: 06
                He worked both in the Far North and abroad and, therefore, the end did not come to me. And he did not become a beggar, most likely - on the contrary. Just some fall into circumstances, while others are looking for opportunities.
      2. -3
        6 January 2020 00: 01
        a very childish answer. starting from rotting under the heel, which is enchanting and ending with a message to a person you don't even know. under yours? Is this how you express hatred of those who have achieved something in life and live better than you?>) I do not mind when people have convictions and a desire to change something. controversies on these topics often go here. but I would isolate people like you from people for the purpose of prophylaxis, because you have already recorded everyone as enemies and the first thing you do is hang your neighbor for having a bigger apartment. envy is what drives you.
        1. +7
          6 January 2020 11: 34
          If he earned this apartment with his labor, knowledge, then no one will envy him.
          Nobody envies Kaspersky, Solovyov, (no matter how he treats), Anna Netrebko, did not envy Hvorostovsky, Galina Volchek, but people will always hate people like Sechin, Chubais, Miller, because they simply stole their billions, finding themselves just in the right place at the right time with the right connections.
          1. +1
            6 January 2020 12: 43
            Who will we take apart? After the October Revolution, not only officials, landowners and entrepreneurs were robbed. They expropriated the property of engineers, scientists, prosperous doctors, and cultural figures. Do you think it will be different now? Oh well.
            1. 0
              6 January 2020 22: 55
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              They expropriated the property of engineers, scientists, prosperous doctors, and cultural figures. Do you think it will be different now? Oh well.

              Many gangs and armed groups acted on behalf of the Bolsheviks. Even the looting of churches by the White Army, first fell on the Revolution and then automatically on the Bolsheviks ....
              1. -1
                6 January 2020 23: 02
                Gangs and illegal groups are robbing. Confiscates and requisition, hiding behind laws, decrees, decrees - the state. Given the fact that the Soviet state preached militant atheism, the destruction and expropriation of church values, it was entirely on his conscience, if any, among the Bolsheviks.
  6. +3
    5 January 2020 22: 12
    We have to admit the fact that the basis of modern society already in Russia is the transfer of everything and everything into money, attempts to measure with money everything that is possible and that is impossible. It is this kind of thinking that our country has adopted from Anglo-Saxon worldbecoming its reflection.

    The transfer of socio-economic relations to the ethno-national plane is an extremely unconstructive attempt to identify the problem. As the saying goes, if there is manure at the entrance, then at the exit it is the same with the same smell.

    This is not a "western tendency" - the complete regulation of family relations, this is a capitalist tendency. We traditionally, especially the older generation, try to distance ourselves from the West without even realizing that we have long been living like this very West. If anything holds up so far, it is the family, and even then to a diminishing degree. In everything else, the same wolfish, pike laws, whatever you touch, as in any capitalist country.

    "Considering a person as a source of profit" is by no means the agenda of meetings of some elite world behind the scenes. This is the essence of the ordinary and everyday reasoning of the simplest homo sapiens. Well, here's a trivial example - if I am the owner of the means of production, and I decide how and to whom to pay, then how will I dispose of the profit? For understanding - every ruble on the employee's salary is a minus from my income (read - pocket), i.e. and my income, and his salary is the carve-up of one pie. And what - there are many options how I will dispose of the common pie? And this, I stress, at the most ordinary level, without the otherworldly and supernatural shnya.
    1. +7
      5 January 2020 22: 32
      There was in Moscow one CJSC that was engaged in building houses, its director, bought houses at cost and resold at market prices, this is parasitism
      1. +7
        5 January 2020 22: 46
        this is parasitism

        This is not so - the first parasite is banks)))
        1. +4
          5 January 2020 23: 50
          Quote: lucul
          This is not so - the first parasite is banks)))

          Banks are just one of the tools for formatting people.
          1. +1
            6 January 2020 09: 40
            banks do not need to be demonized. The whole question is whose control they are.
      2. +2
        5 January 2020 23: 04
        Quote: 75Sergey
        There was in Moscow one CJSC that was engaged in building houses, its director, bought houses at cost and resold at market prices, this is parasitism

        If it were one, and there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.
      3. -1
        5 January 2020 23: 52
        it's called making money. if the law is not violated, then all these are possibilities. market prices and market prices. did he steal these apartments from someone? you yourself write that he was engaged in construction. and saw the opportunity to earn more.
        1. +2
          6 January 2020 07: 55
          Dmitry. Laws are also different. For example. Two companies are engaged in construction. And they offer one price for work. In one country they will be within the law; in another they will go under the article on collusion.
    2. +5
      5 January 2020 22: 53
      The transfer of socio-economic relations to the ethno-national plane is an extremely unconstructive attempt to identify the problem.

      The problem is that for some, money is only a convenient MEANS, and for some it is the GOAL. And between these two concepts there is a whole chasm.
      The Egyptians built a pyramid in a non-monetary economy (barter), and the Soviet Union in a non-monetary economy (the notorious workdays) industrialized the country at a record pace (up to 25% of GDP per year).
      1. +3
        6 January 2020 07: 42
        Quote: lucul
        The problem is that for some, money is only a convenient MEANS, and for some it is the GOAL. And between these two concepts there is a whole chasm.

        Money is a convenient medium of exchange for everyone. Probably, you confused money with profit.

        Money itself cannot be a goal; money can be a value. In a capitalist society, this is precisely so - money is the main value. Even if we take a certain very wealthy capitalist who already has everything, then in this case money for him does not become an end, but remains a means. A means of living in a big way, a means of protection against possible future life troubles, a means of going into power, a means of manipulating others, etc.

        Quote: lucul
        The Soviet Union, with a non-monetary economy (the notorious workdays), has industrialized the country at a record pace (up to 25% of GDP per year).

        Who inspired you with such nonsense about the cashless economy in the USSR?

        "The notorious workdays" at the end of the harvest, turned into money. Or how else could some collective farmers save money in just 10 pre-war years to buy a tank or an airplane?
        1. 0
          6 January 2020 19: 16
          Money for an entrepreneur, first of all, is a financial instrument for carrying out economic activities. And not everyone is trying to live in a big way, although the situation requires. The same billionaire Kamprad, the founder of IKEA, was ascetic in everyday life.
          1. -3
            6 January 2020 19: 42
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Money for an entrepreneur, first of all, is financial instrument, for the implementation of economic activity.

            Isn't a "financial instrument" a means? Well, something will change if in Russian:

            Money for an entrepreneur, first of all, is means, for the implementation of economic activity.

            We love to arrange races for the knowledge of synonyms ...

            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            And not everyone is trying to live in a big way, although the situation requires. The same billionaire Kamprad, the founder of IKEA, was ascetic in everyday life.

            It's not about that.

            Or, for the ascetic rich, money from a means turned into a goal?
      2. +1
        6 January 2020 22: 59
        Quote: lucul
        The problem is that for some, money is only a convenient MEANS, and for some it is the GOAL

        And for the third, this is a tool for manipulating both the first and second wassat
    3. +5
      6 January 2020 00: 05
      Quote: McAr
      "Considering a person as a source of profit" is by no means the agenda of meetings of some elite world behind the scenes

      Of course, since money was created by them not for themselves, but for the people. They do not need money if they have unlimited power over everything and everything. Money was invented for us, sorry for the stupidity of the word slaves.
      1. +4
        6 January 2020 08: 19
        Quote: NEXUS
        Of course, since money was created by them not for themselves, but for the people. They do not need money if they have unlimited power over everything and everything. Money was invented for us, sorry for the stupidity of the word slaves.

        1. Nobody created money for anyone, did not invent it. They arose spontaneously as a convenient means of exchange. At the dawn of their appearance, they had different objects (depending on the region of the planet): pearls, shells, skins of valuable animals, cocoa beans and even just stones with a hole.

        2. THEIR unlimited power, just rests precisely on money. In capitalism, money is the highest value in society, the measure of everything and everything. Money alone, as a medium of exchange, is neither evil nor good. The bad began when, in addition to the initial quality - a medium of exchange, money acquired the function of accumulation.

        Andrey, do you know anything about the so-called "Gesell's free money - Freigeld"?
        This is just an attempt to free money from the function of accumulation and leave behind them only one thing, for which they were created - a medium of exchange. The results, without exception, have always been fantastic. If you don’t know Google, it’s very interesting. Let me quote:

        Following Irving Fisher, Gesell's theory was recognized by other academics, including the British authority John Maynard Keynes. In the mid-30s, Freigeld was successfully introduced in Austria, Switzerland, Germany and - almost everywhere - in the United States of America during the "Great Depression". It seemed that the case of Silvio Gesell was guaranteed a stellar future, however very quickly both his name and his theory were completely erased from public consciousness. Why?

        All attempts to put into practice the theory of free money in the 30s had a common destiny: in the shortest possible time (maximum - one year, and usually - after just two or three months) they showed phenomenal results in overcoming the darkest manifestations of economic depression - eliminated unemployment, radically increased tax collection, revived municipal activity, caused the flowering of local trade and - the main thing! - eliminated the shortage of living moneydriven by deflation into the capsules of bank safes.

        The triumph, however, was quickly followed by a hangover: as soon as the news of miracle money spread around, there was a massive desire of neighboring municipalities and communities to join the experiment. Following this, the national Central Bank intervened, under one pretext or another (as a rule, it was charged with breaking the monopoly on the issue and circulation of funds) that closed the project. In particular, a similar scenario was played in Germany (Wära experiment in Schwanenkirchen) and Austria (free money in the alpine town of Wörgl). As for the United States, then thousands experiments on the introduction of free money from ocean to ocean were successfully strangled by the "New Treaty", signed with the nation unilaterally by the 32nd degree Freemason F. D. Roosevelt, who completed the "financial revolution" of 1913, completely transferring the rights to issue the dollar to a private structure Fed.
    4. 0
      7 January 2020 20: 18
      Quote: McAr
      And this, I emphasize, at the most ordinary level, without the otherworldly and supernatural shnyaga.

      ++ easy! understandably!! But the answer to the question What to do? does not give! smile
      1. -2
        7 January 2020 23: 08
        Quote: aybolyt678
        Quote: McAr
        And this, I emphasize, at the most ordinary level, without the otherworldly and supernatural shnyaga.

        ++ easy! understandably!! But the answer to the question What to do? does not give! smile

        What to do? So after all, nothing can be done fundamentally worthwhile in the superstructure, as long as the basis remains old.

        It is impossible to build socialism, not to mention communism, in a single family, village, enterprise ... even on a separate island this will not work. An example of this is the destruction of the USSR. Oh, and we had enough resources, and the territory, and people - but what people! Despite the fact that the basis was already new, one thing was not enough in the superstructure - to overcome the inertia of bourgeois consciousness, which at the everyday level was manifested in what the classics of Marxist theory wrote about: give society less and worse, and take more and better from society. There were periods when% of those were less, and when and more - especially in the last period of the USSR.

        The consciousness of society should become such that to live like a wolf, like a pig, like a monkey would become unacceptable at the internal level for everyone. And for this to happen, even through generations, another basis is needed - not capitalist, but socialist. I understand everything - we live here and now! And I want everything at once. And as a result - from a little bit and once to nothing and never, for the absolute majority. Although it has long been estimated that if all the existing benefits are distributed equally to each inhabitant of the planet, then the standard of living of each of the eight billion would become what 3/4 do not even dream about - at about the highest point, where the so-called middle class goes into class the rich. And this is already now, when universal robotics and automation are still very far away.

        This is a study in the United States, but something like that in any other cap. country:
  7. +7
    5 January 2020 22: 42
    We have to admit the fact that the basis of modern society already in Russia is the transfer of everything and everything into money, attempts to measure with money everything that is possible and that is impossible. It is this version of thinking that our country adopted from the Anglo-Saxon world, becoming its reflection.

    What I talked about repeatedly. Moreover, it happened not yesterday, and not even 100 years ago ... it happened presumably during the time of Peter’s accession to the throne. And with Peter, after all, everything is also somewhat foggy ... because when he left to see Europe as Peter Mikhailov, he was normal for that time of growth, with curly hair, and a mole at the nose ... and the 2-meter tall man returned without all these distinctive features, although he looked like Peter. And at the same time, before the trip, he respected Slavic-Russian culture, and when he arrived, he began to chop the boyars with beards and force everyone to wear European clothes. But ... the most vile thing that the new Peter did was transfer Russia to the Gregorian calendar, throwing it away from the history of Russia for 5 thousand years with one stroke of a pen. At the same time, the Slavic alphabet was also robbed as his fanatic. Indirect evidence that the impostor sat on the throne after arriving from Europe is the fact that he immediately sends his wife Evdokia Lopukhin away to the monastery, although he wrote fervent letters to her on the trip. The question is, why? Apparently because the wife easily recognizes the substitution.
    And then, with the hands of German figures another history of Russia was written, which destroyed not only the real history of our people, but also culture.
    And now they continue to tailor us in general likeness, driving into the head the teachings of the Golden Calf.
    You can agree or disagree with me, but if you soberly look at how many times our history has been redrawn and by whom, how much has been hushed up, has been destroyed and erased from the memory of our people as an ethnic group, then I think I'm not far from the truth.
    1. +5
      6 January 2020 01: 34
      I agree with you, Nexus.
      I read a lot about Peter's substitution. There are many similar people. They say there are no more than 100 types of human faces. This is often played up on the Internet. They put together photographs of famous actors, one young, the other older, and really similar. The young looks like a reflection of the older in youth. So to find "Peter" somewhere in a remote corner, say, Little Russia and train him in the right way, apparently, was not difficult. It was also not difficult to buy the silence of the servants who accompanied the tsarevich on the voyage. Just the price of the issue.
      As for the juvenile ... She has long penetrated our society. At least in 2009, I had a chance to face. Children from wealthy families already knew their rights to inviolability in the case of hooligan behavior regarding other people's adults. The slap on the head, which I weighed one of these, was a revelation for him. There was a conflict between adolescents and the old man, they brought him to death. Only I fought, but nothing was done. The police did not respond. Surrounding too. And now - in general, complete atomization, pupping in oneself, and this is from poverty. A person humbled by poverty cannot be active. Nobody cares what collegiality, the Russian community is there! The concept of reputation is a thing of the past. Discussing the actions of neighbors, let alone interfering in their affairs, is considered indecent. Everyone knows everything, but to intercede, to condemn out loud, to express in person - but never! In general, where I live, no one intervenes in anything. It can be seen that the lady whose speech I heard was not in Russia for a long time. Everything is heard in Khrushchev, violence takes place, but from the side of the neighbors there is complete silence. What is the Russian community there ...
      Moreover, they inspire us that we, Russians, are not. People went out.
      The Domestic Violence Act will of course be enacted. You will be surprised, but the population will begin to use it. For different purposes. Perhaps under unseemly pretexts.
    2. +1
      6 January 2020 23: 04
      Quote: NEXUS
      You can agree or disagree with me

      Quote: NEXUS
      and returned

      I compare Putin during his Munich speech and retirement babble, the same feeling as with Peter
  8. +2
    5 January 2020 23: 32
    Ugh, you chickpeas .. started for health and ended up sending to YouTube. Make your channel there or something ..
    1. 0
      5 January 2020 23: 54
      you underestimate youtube
  9. +14
    5 January 2020 23: 40
    that's why they killed Soviet upbringing in us .. educated cultured people "they" do not need. They took away everything human from our children. left only animal instincts.
  10. +5
    5 January 2020 23: 51
    . We have to admit the fact that the basis of modern society already in Russia is the transfer of everything and everything into money, attempts to measure with money everything that is possible and that is impossible. It is this version of thinking that our country adopted from the Anglo-Saxon world, becoming its reflection.

    This is the beginning of the article in general, except for a smile does not cause anything ... winked
    A lecture by I. Mukhina, so-so, for the general development of ... students
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    1. +1
      6 January 2020 00: 03
      Novoraseyanskoye are you trying to insult the Russians? Bravo.
      1. 0
        6 January 2020 09: 50
        yes it’s not necessary to write bravely, albeit with sarcasm, but send a complaint to the moderator
  12. +1
    6 January 2020 01: 42
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    And after the flame remains the ashes.

    Someone - naturally! Does this affect you personally, and does it bother you the most? lol
    1. 0
      6 January 2020 11: 57
      Our long-suffering country may not survive another fire. Can crazy experiments already be enough? And I really have something to lose. I did not go with the flow and did not go in the herd. And there is no desire to go to the herd.
  13. -8
    6 January 2020 05: 57
    Quote: 75Sergey
    Better to fall in the fight than to rot under your heel.

    negative neither Lenin nor the peasants of the land have ever seen, but you are 100% eager to kill and then the current slogans about the Swaboda. that Lenin that Stalin are both terrorists on the money of the enemy during the war, aggravated by terrorism in Ingushetia. terrorism against just anyone and terrorism. Moreover, in the USSR, the collective farmers had no property, no passport, no pension, and so for decades .. under Stalin, of course, they did not steal, but for some reason they planted millions. current actually "analogs" can be like you ... toss screams about our heel better than yours.
    1. +2
      6 January 2020 08: 11
      Wicked booth. You ruined everything for the whole Soviet time. Although the collective farmers' passports appeared at the end of '53, you can blame them on the cards. Although they disappeared in 1947. The most painful place is repression. But it has long been known that servants are much more diligent than the lord. This should not be repeated. But you can’t fight the human essence.
      1. 0
        6 January 2020 11: 48
        Cards disappeared in 1947. However, coupons appeared. And a shortage of basic goods. Regarding the repression: well, we can’t do without excesses. Then Peter cuts beards to everyone, without exception, then they drive them into collective farms at gunpoint, then we fight with booze by cutting down elite vineyards.
      2. 0
        8 January 2020 08: 18
        and specify the pensions of collective farmers?
    2. -1
      6 January 2020 09: 54
      A booth, for a start, learn to write in Russian, and before you learn the delirium in your head - the story of the schoolboy. And it looks like you have one crinkle and then between ..... oh.
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    3. +3
      6 January 2020 11: 50
      There was a collective farmer and a passport, and the opportunity to study at universities.
      For some reason, accusing Stalin of the fact that collective farmers were not issued passports in all cases, no one wonders why this was done.
      Or, you think, just like that, because Stalin was so bad?
      And about the repression.
      Stop repeating liberal-schizoid nonsense about millions of repressed.
      They say that in the USSR under Stalin everything was built by convicts, of which there were tens of millions.
      However, the "contribution" of the Gulag to the USSR economy was as much as 13% (some researchers give more
      smaller numbers).
      And they immediately added - they said that "UIN", which existed in the USSR instead of the GULAG after Stalin, when
      Khrushchev-Brezhnev gave the same 14% to the USSR Economy.
      Now explain - how many people were in the Gulag if the percentage of their contribution to the country's economy remained the same 13-14%, that is, remained the same?
      After Stalin's death, there were no "repressions"?
      Maybe the "Repression" continued at the same pace?
      Probably not.
      So maybe then and under Stalin there were no particularly large-scale "repressions" with "dozens
      millions "as some" historians "say?
      Well, if the total share of labor of prisoners in the country's economy has not changed and remained in the same volume, then does the total number of prisoners remain the same?
      Yes, there were, there were, and innocently convicted prisoners, who, unfortunately, are always in any camp, because the judicial system tends to make mistakes sometimes.
      But not everyone sat innocently.
      One of the proofs of this is that not all Bandera and forest brothers were shot and not all rotted in the camps (which is a pity ...)
      1. 0
        8 January 2020 08: 21
        what what is your linear phrase aka stalin = hitler. the owl and the globe have already burst, but you continue to work on the free-standing lala. you never know whether millions have died; you’re interested in savoring this and that’s all the absurdity and the substitution of concepts and the withdrawal from the topic and all that’s all. Well, of course, the proofs in the Pentagon are necessary and they will do what, and the CMS in the world is nowhere more free. Save Belykaski and other inveterate.
  14. +1
    6 January 2020 09: 23
    Nice videos. There are good topics on the "NEW DAY" website (DAY TV) - they should be shown more often on the "MILITARY REVIEW" forums.
    The more we distribute in the "World Wide Web" the better. Fursov's lectures are very interesting - they are there.

    From an excerpt from a statement on the forum:

    "And after a" successful action "in Persia, if they manage to pull off everything - this action, then he himself - the case, ordered to go there, and" bend these "...
    "These will be their thoughts. And this can be fed by the Muslims of Russia, groaning from the oppression of the juvenile, fascist justice, its laws about domestic violence. And, as in a pleasant dream for a terrorist, the Caucasian republics are rebelling. With" contempt for the Slavs " that they allowed such barbarism, it is not worth living with them in the same house. Plus the ubiquitous corruption. Not noticing that the traitors - those non-people who lobby for this fascist action, they have no nationality, unfortunately there are representatives of many ethnic groups, loving “loot.” And it’s hard for those people in the state apparatus who, understanding the problem, find it hard to break through the fascist “citadel.” But in fact, many believers - Orthodox Christians are sounding the alarm. But on liberal TV neither - nor. among "deeply" believing Christians. Muslims should not know, think that there are like-minded people among the Orthodox. And about the "oppression of the Russians." "They have not forgotten oppression against other peoples."
  15. +3
    6 January 2020 11: 48
    Moreover, - juvenile fascism, it is being pushed into the Russian Federation; and the catastrophe also lies in the fact that in the former Ukraine, too, as in a mirror - a reflection with an accelerating process, the era of juvenile fascism is coming, while - while they are shoving the image of the enemy - the Russian Federation, they (a protege of juvenile fascism) are quietly doing their dirty deed ... And with the help of juvenile fascism of the families of SS veterans - punitive battalions (Aydar and other "non-svidykh divisions" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) - their families fall under the yoke of "juvenile women", making them more docile, before world fascism. And the servicemen of the bandit army - the former Ukraine, when microchips, electronic universal cards will affect their ability to exist like a plant.
    They will be forced to carry out the orders of the anti-human coalition with even greater brutality - the overseers of the "SS". These "maydanutye" did not see what they were doing.

    The patriots of Russia have remained in the former Ukraine, but those who push juvenile fascism in the Russian Federation - the secret services of Western ideologists - they do not want to see the UNITED, GREAT RUSSIAN CIVILIZATION.

    And due to the growing anti-Russian policy in the Russian Federation, our allies will silently hang their heads, endure, endure ...
    The electronic concentration camp is gaining momentum in the Russian Federation. In the near future, it should be expected that under the screen - world-wide disturbing news, the sixes of the Western anti-Russian civilization will push through anti-human laws in the Russian Federation. Creating a universal, false picture for the benefit of people.

    Fascists outside and inside. And the worst thing is that juvenile fascism has the properties of promoting the growth of false - "ala-patriotic" organizations, this will discriminate against the true patriots of Russia. So that the peoples of Russia do not think that they live among the representatives of the anti-human doctrine; it will be beneficial for the enemies, they will allow (not interfere) with the parades of Great Victoria - MAY 9, while it is beneficial. But, "little by little" false "symbols of victory" will be shoved into the minds of people: distorted films about the war, propaganda - ridicule of the heroes of the war, - THE CASE WITH TNT CHANNEL - mockery of General Karbyshev DM - this is an example. Society is being watched how it behaves. Observe how society reacts to a performance without an anthem and a national flag. They come to the conclusion that it is time to quickly push the citizens of the Russian Federation into the "electronic monkey house". Juvenile fascism is a prologue to a world dictatorship, a prologue to the destruction of the Great Russian civilization. May the worldwide "bummer-Petrovich" come to them.

    The initial liberation struggle against nonhumans is the distribution of videos on social networks. At the same time, without swearing, etc., so that a criminal case is not brought against you. And remember that people of different structures in society understand this. The bad thing is that there is a danger of false patriots. Be carefull.

    Communicate with people, in Russia there are worthy people among Muslims, Christians and other cultures. Many of us in Russia have something that unites us. May the worldwide "bummer-Petrovich" come to them.
    1. +5
      6 January 2020 12: 15
      And your first step may be that when you come up to a friend, by the way, explain to him the example that is printed above, adding that the army of New Russia is the defenders of our homeland (Russia). New Russia is salvation for us. As well as salvation for all of Ukraine.
      She's like a bone in the throat of an enemy. Therefore, enemies, traitors are trying to destroy the army of New Russia. Therefore, Alexei Mozgovoy and others died.
    2. +1
      7 January 2020 12: 20
      On TNT, there are children without education. That's why they laugh at Karbyshev. And even about the possibility of surrendering Leningrad to the Germans, they also broadcast illiterate. This is garbage.
  16. +1
    6 January 2020 12: 08
    Each adult himself decides what ideal to follow, the easiest way is to turn himself into a kind of chewing animal, you don’t need to strain your head, come home, ate what you have to, watched TV and went to bed and tomorrow too, yesterday. A kind of moral hole, got into it and live until the end of days, beauty!
  17. 0
    6 January 2020 12: 19
    It should be noted that the concept of "the world elite" does not imply the presence of a "Russian" component. However, like any other ethnic or "national". This concept is equivalent to the concept of "world capital", the symbol of which was pierced by a Red Army soldier with a bayonet. And where is "invincible and legendary" now?
  18. 0
    6 January 2020 12: 56
    The fight is not over yet .....
  19. +2
    6 January 2020 14: 01
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Our long-suffering country may not survive another fire. Can crazy experiments already be enough? And I really have something to lose. I did not go with the flow and did not go in the herd. And there is no desire to go to the herd.

    This is where you had to start, this is the key content of your essence - "ego" raised to the absolute, the main thing is that "I (in the sense - you) loved one feel good and comfortable, the rest, and the rest I don't care about"! We heard you .... sad
  20. +3
    6 January 2020 14: 31
    HAPPY HOLIDAY! All participants in the forum: Orthodox Christians, people who gather at home to celebrate Christmas!
    Happy holiday to all of you! All warmth, comfort, Peace and Victoria over evil! You see how many smart, good people, how this woman reveals the essence of the problems. So the one who thinks that everything is bad, he is mistaken! See how many brave people there are in Russia! Even giving such an interview is an act! In our country there are a lot of good, sober-minded people!
    Let those who go to evening service in the temple, let them mentally pray that evil will lose, it will certainly lose! That the Lord would help our compatriots in Syria, New Russia, Serbia, Belarus, Ukraine (there are also enough of ours there - like-minded people) in other parts of the World!
    If someone does not go to the temple, then in the evening, if possible, he will think about the light!
    Happy holiday to all of you members of the forum! Happy Holidays to the whole team of "MILITARY REVIEW"!

    Eternal memory to the fallen heroes of the Russian Spring!

    From the reports of the militia of Novorossia:

    “06.01.19/12.10.1971/06.01.2019 heroically killed the militia Babkin Yevgeny" Shnur ". Years of life: XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX Exactly a year ago, the invader kidnapped the life of a brave soldier who fought for Novorossiya at the forefront.

    ... I play the mean "truce"
    Many were doomed to death.
    You were shot down on the take-off of life
    And they entered the mournful list ...
    Go to heaven
    Heroes of New Russia,
    Go shoulder to shoulder
    In the last battle ...
    And the rain is crying quietly
    The sadness of the Russian autumn ....
    Heroes are coming ...
    Going to the sky ...
    Shielding us ...
    Everlasting memory!".

  21. +1
    6 January 2020 14: 32
    - And here the "world elite" is waiting for a bummer - when building a "consumer society" in Russia, they did not take into account the immense greed and economic illiteracy of the current bourgeoisie!
    - As we were taught, a consumer society is built on the principle of "commodity - money - commodity", "flow of well-being", etc., the circulation of money in nature, in short ...
    - We do not have this - the money rises "up" to the limit, beyond which it floats out of the country's economy ... for good!
    - "Down" only a small part flows down - and look, they will begin to pay with workdays! This is the main reason that a full-fledged "consumer society" will not work for us - the greed of the top of the economic pyramid will not give ... potential consumers have nothing to pay for goods ... You can, of course, still print some money - but this is another nail in coffin lid ...
  22. 0
    6 January 2020 15: 02
    Quote: saygon66
    As we were taught, a consumer society is built on the principle of "commodity - money - commodity", "flow of well-being", etc., the circulation of money in nature, in short ...

    In fact, any economy, except subsistence farming and possibly communist. built on this principle. With the subsistence economy, everything is clear, but with the communist economy it’s not very ...
  23. 0
    6 January 2020 22: 17
    We look carefully and completely. He who has eyes, let him see, he who has ears, let him hear!
  24. +1
    7 January 2020 03: 10
    Irina MUKHINA. “Yes, quite. In the mid-1990s, my husband and I and two daughters (four and twelve years old) moved to Canada. I had my Ph.D. dissertation on artificial intelligence, and my husband had a doctorate in plasma physics. we had no relatives or acquaintances. We had to settle down somehow. "
    Ah, how good it is to open our eyes to the Truth from the decaying West. Teach us orphans and wretched. Crossed the Border - forget for this Country. The dissertation on artificial intelligence and the doctoral on plasma physics needed to be applied HERE, and not THERE. The knowledge gained here brought profit to TAM. By the way, in the Union, people who received higher education in their specialty left a pretty penny for this State. And you, Irina and her husband paid for the knowledge invested in you, or what I mean ... Mid 90s ...
    1. -1
      7 January 2020 18: 12
      Here the state does not need science
  25. 0
    7 January 2020 06: 11
    It is unfortunate that such an intelligent woman does not live with us.
  26. Ham
    0
    7 January 2020 07: 49
    "" We have to state the fact that the basis of modern society already in Russia is the translation of everything and everyone into money ""
    author - generalissimo Evidence! how many years did he need to live to realize common truths?
    since 1991 in Russia capitalism - i.e. everything that is described in the anti-capitalist saga "Dunno on the Moon" is implemented in our society! well, maybe they just don’t sell weapons freely ...
  27. 0
    7 January 2020 16: 58
    Quote: aybolyt678
    Our share!

    What is your share ??? You besides shit on the Internet have made something to claim?