The President of Poland will not go to Israel to the forum for the memory of the Holocaust "because of Putin"

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From Poland, there are reports of a decision by the President of the country regarding an invitation to Holocaust Remembrance Day in Israel. Recall that January 27 marks the 75th anniversary of the liberation by Soviet soldiers of prisoners of the Auschwitz death camp (Auschwitz-Birkenau), which was located in Poland. This day is the International Holocaust Remembrance Day. On January 22 and 23, Israel will host a world forum dedicated to this event.

According to Polish media, Andrzej Duda refused to travel to Israel to the forum. Polish reporters argue that the decision of Duda is due to the fact that Russian President Vladimir Putin will attend the World Forum, who will raise the issue of complicity of the Polish authorities in 1938-1939 with Hitler, including in terms of the idea of ​​expelling Jews to Africa.



In addition, Polish media report that Duda refused to visit Israel both “because of Putin”, as well as due to the fact that the official organizer of the forum is the Israeli Foreign Ministry, whose head (Israel Katz) recently called the Poles a nation, “ absorbed anti-Semitism with mother’s milk. ”

The Polish authorities intend to arrange their own version of the forum dedicated to the release of prisoners of Auschwitz. According to modern Polish tradition, this forum will most likely be used as another platform for broadcasting Russophobia to the masses.

Against this background, a scandal is being discussed with the production of a play in one of the Polish schools, where scenes were played with how the Nazis (dressed in Nazi uniforms) tortured and killed prisoners of Auschwitz.
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    1. +10
      January 3 2020
      Poles do not recognize their participation in the Holocaust, except in isolated individual cases
      1. +35
        January 3 2020
        The president of Poland did not go to Israel.
        Who is to blame? Of course the one who is to blame everywhere ... laughing
        1. -8
          January 3 2020
          No, the situation is more complicated there than just with Putin
          In addition, the liberation of Auschwitz is more logical, indeed, to celebrate in Auschwitz itself
          1. +55
            January 3 2020
            Quote: Avior

            the liberation of Auschwitz is more logical, indeed, to celebrate in Auschwitz itself

            That's right!
            And the May 9th parade will be held in Berlin!
            soldier
            1. +4
              January 3 2020
              So what's the problem?
              I am for.
              1. +12
                January 3 2020
                The President of Poland will not go to Israel to the forum for the memory of the Holocaust "because of Putin"
                Indeed, well, how will Duda look into Putin’s eyes? If the Poles have Jewish hands in blood against the Jews, like the Germans! After all, there are still people alive - victims of the Poles - and documents about the participation of Poles in the Holocaust of Jews in Poland have been preserved! You can’t argue against the historical truth! And in Israel, Jews know their history better than Jewish Poles.

                1. It was the Poles in 1938, in alliance with Hitler Germany, simultaneously invaded the sovereign lands of the European Czechoslovak Republic, a member of the League of Nations.
                2. Its own set of anti-Jewish laws, similar to Nazi, who were convicted by the Nuremberg Tribunal, Poles adopted in the mid-1920s - i.e. a decade earlier than the Nazis!
                3. The first concentration camp on the territory of Poland it was not the Germans who built it, but the Poles themselves even before the start of WWII in Birch-Kartuzskaya, where the horrors were no worse than later in Auschwitz, Birkenau or Dachau.
                4. In the years 1939-1940 The German occupiers were engaged in the “cleansing” of the ghetto, into which Polish Jews were forcibly resettled, and then the inhabitants of the ghetto were sent to death camps. Trying to avoid deportation, many Jews hid in the countryside. They hid in the forests or sought protection from the local population.
                To find the Jews hiding, the German police officers responsible for maintaining the occupation regime tried to persuade the predominantly Catholic and anti-Semitic rural population to assist in the search for Jews. Often these searches turned into a hunt that lasted several days or even a whole week.
                5. In the small town of Edbavne., near Warsaw, July 10, 1941 a crowd of Poles drove the Jewish population to the square. In the presence of the German occupiers, some Jews were killed along the way, while the rest were driven into a barn and burned there alive. A total of 340 people died in the fire - men, women and children.
                6. Even after the war - after the liberation of Poland by the Red Army from the German occupiers - on July 4, 1946, in the city of Kielce near Warsaw, Polish militias and civilians attacked Jews who survived the horrors of National Socialist madness during a pogrom. During the pogrom, 42 people were killed.
                1. +2
                  January 5 2020
                  To this, we can add that the suppression of the Warsaw uprising was led by the racial Pole von dem Bach, nee Zelevsky.
              2. +2
                January 4 2020
                we were prepared well in due time and we are waiting for an invitation to the parade
          2. +21
            January 3 2020
            the liberation of Auschwitz is more logical, indeed, to celebrate in Auschwitz itself

            Something I myself faintly imagine that the organizers of the Poles at this event will glorify the Liberators, namely the Soviet Army, headed by the Supreme Comrade. Stalin I.V.
            Their gut is thin. To look into the eyes of truth.
            And then there you can see this ...
            1. -4
              January 3 2020
              Find some way out
              For example, they will glorify Major Anatoly Shapiro, who, with his fighters, freed the prisoners of Auschwitz.


              As you can see, the attitude to Stalin in Ukraine does not interfere.
              And the Poles will find some way out, you can have no doubt, this or that
              hi
              1. +17
                January 3 2020
                Undoubtedly.
                I remember on the box some doll was performing. fool
                I will not quote it literally, but in a free translation it sounded like this:

                Auschwitz liberated the troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front, so it was the Ukrainians! And in general, look who liberated Europe? First, Second, Third, Fourth Ukrainian Fronts, Belarusian Fronts, Baltic Fronts. Not a single Russian! And where were the Russians? And there, somewhere beyond the Urals in Siberia ....


                And this is said in all seriousness. It listens and remembers the younger generation.
                So of course the organizers will come up with something SUCH!
                That at least stand at least fall. Hand face... belay

                Rewrite a story? Sure, not a problem. wassat
                1. -7
                  January 3 2020
                  About all polls Ukrainians on the Ukrainian fronts, this crap, of course, complete. Not a big mind man froze it.

                  But in the case of Shapiro, there is just no rewriting of history.
                  Auschwitz liberated the battalion of which he was a battalion commander, and he took an active part.
                  1. +16
                    January 3 2020
                    Auschwitz liberated the battalion of which he was a battalion commander, and he took an active part.

                    And Berlin was taken by the Red Army, whose commander was Georgians. What `s next? I don’t understand what you are driving at.
                    In the Soviet Army, fronts were not formed at all on a national basis. And to think like this is a complete "crap". hi
              2. -1
                January 4 2020
                For example, they will glorify Major Anatoly Shapiro, who, with his fighters, freed the prisoners of Auschwitz.

                And why not the commander of a regiment, division or company. I think Auschwitz freed a platoon or company. And the Germans were probably no longer there, they fled.
                1. -1
                  January 4 2020
                  Your thoughts of facts do not replace
                  On January 27, 1945, as the commander of the assault detachment of the 106th Rifle Corps, Major Anatoly Shapiro was one of the first to enter Auschwitz. His detachment broke into the camp with battles, cleared the approaches and commander Anatoly Shapiro opened the gates of the Auschwitz I camp [1], freeing about five hundred prisoners of the camp [2].

                  hi
                  1. 0
                    January 4 2020
                    a detachment with battles broke through to the camp

                    How many people are in the assault squad?
                    1. 0
                      January 4 2020
                      Read for yourself
                      You, I see, minus what you don’t know about, much, I think, and master the story
                      But it's without me
                      hi
          3. +3
            January 3 2020
            No, the situation is more complicated there than just with Putin
            In addition, the liberation of Auschwitz is more logical, indeed, to celebrate in Auschwitz itself
            Nowhere is simpler, the Polish government has always mimicked, this is a tradition. And history always comes through centuries. How not to bury.
            1. +7
              January 3 2020
              The Poles themselves took an active part in the Holocaust: they handed over Polish Jews in batches to the caring hands of the Gestapo, and seized the property of their surrendered neighbors. So, the Poles have contributed quite a bit to the genocide of the Jewish people. And what was the fate of the captured Red Army soldiers of Tukhachevsky? How much survived in Polish captivity? And what about the centuries-old genocide of the Belarusian, Little Russian, Russian and other peoples? Poland has historically pursued a policy of genocide against all of its neighbors.
              So, everything is right: there is nothing for the descendants of Hitler's accomplices to do at this mourning event !!!
              But is it time to raise the question of the official condemnation of Poland for genocide against the RUSSIANs? It’s time to call the arrogant villains to account. IMHO
              1. +6
                January 3 2020
                Yes, and with the annual anti-Soviet-anti-Russian Polish Sabbath in Katyn, it is necessary to correct it correctly, not according to the Hitler-Polish lies, otherwise the "ambitious" gentlemen are sitting on our heads! winked
                Poland never repented for the mordant captives of the Red Army! negative
              2. 0
                January 4 2020
                [quote] So, everything is correct: there is nothing for the descendants of Hitler's accomplices to do at this mourning event !!! [quote]
                How is it nothing, KAYA!
        2. 0
          January 5 2020
          Quote: Shurik70
          Of course the one who is to blame everywhere ...

          belay ... the "culprit" is crying at the news!
      2. +11
        January 3 2020
        Quote: Avior
        Poles do not recognize their participation in the Holocaust, except in isolated individual cases

        They do not recognize their participation at all. There we are talking about restitution, but because courts are in the States, the situation smacks of defeat. A precedent with the banks of Switzerland was already.
        1. -5
          January 3 2020
          They fully recognize certain facts, as far as I understand, they had their own commissions and other things in these cases.
          And I'm not sure that the term restitution is applicable to this situation, there is not quite such a situation.
          As well as the fact that the situation with Switzerland is applicable to this case, taking into account the decisions of the Potsdam Conference.
          1. +15
            January 3 2020
            Yes, the Poles have hands to the elbow in blood, they starved our captives in the 20s in a concentration camp, Jews were cut with the Germans and rushed into the war, now ours, then yours, like whores who know about this, he will make unambiguous conclusions.
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              1. +13
                January 3 2020
                Muscovites 350 years under the Mongols were, stood on all fours in front of the Asian rulers - in Russian it is called to beat the brow - petition, to see that the head was so threshed that all the brains were raised to themselves ... forever and forever .... . Yes !
                Have you forgotten to peel the tail of the peacocks, or did you have it peeling off from heart-rending cries?
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                    1. 0
                      January 4 2020
                      Quote: point3d
                      What was that?

                      He had a Putin nightmare today. Therefore, another exacerbation
                  2. +1
                    January 4 2020
                    Obviously, who is really stupid.
                    In order to create, train and provide with arms, food and other necessary army of many thousands, you need a state with a strong economy and developed industry, including metallurgy.
                    Quiz question:
                    Which of these nomads "Mongols" had a state with a strong economy and developed industry?
                    Just do not say that the "Mongolian" army of many thousands was supplied exclusively by robbing neighbors.
              2. +5
                January 3 2020
                In how penetrated! To the very gimor ... And what terrible words ...
              3. +8
                January 3 2020
                Quote: trump
                that the head was so threshed that all the brains were raised to themselves ...... permanently and forever ..... yes!

                My friend, you were shocked, well, these Muscovites were given to you, you are worried about your health, they say the tincture from the mouse droppings helps, eat regularly and Muscovites with the Mongols will not get you.
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                  1. +4
                    January 3 2020
                    Do not ail, my friend, heal the malice ....
                  2. +3
                    January 4 2020
                    Quote: trump
                    In other cultures, people boast of wit

                    Judging by you, you do not belong to any representative of culture.
              4. +8
                January 3 2020
                This version does not agree with the testimonies of contemporaries. Who claimed that the Russians in the "Mongol" army were the main part, including in the command. And modern genetic examinations have shown the TOTAL absence of the "Mongolian" trace among the "conquered" peoples. And during this "yoke" a huge number of cities and monasteries were built, which was not at any other time. The "Tatar-Mongol yoke" is an invention of the 18th century and has nothing to do with real history. There was a huge state that occupied a significant part of Eurasia, an empire, and Russia was in it with the same rights as other peoples. And all the "yoke" was reduced to tithes, a tax of 10% of all revenues for the maintenance of the state apparatus and the army, modern taxes in all countries are higher. And in the approval of the central government in the positions of local rulers, princes and khans, and in the modern governors.
              5. +4
                January 3 2020
                Trumpampam, where did you learn that in Russian, impeachment in your drawbar? laughing
              6. 0
                January 3 2020
                Quote: trump
                Muscovites 350 years under the Mongols were

                For Ukrainians
        2. -26
          January 3 2020
          Oh, the representative of an all-conquering nation speaks proudly, only there in the States the lafa has ended for you, dodge there better from knives and machine gun bursts, as it was last year in Pennsylvania
      3. +9
        January 3 2020
        Quote: Avior
        Poles do not recognize their participation in the Holocaust, except in isolated individual cases

        As I already said before, the GDP has just begun to rake this all up. While these are flowers, about the history and who is hu, it is and was in WWII, and there will be berries.
        1. -4
          January 3 2020
          I do not think that this had a big effect in the world, even from Israel I did not see it.
          1. +1
            January 4 2020
            Quote: Avior
            I do not think that this had a big effect in the world, even from Israel I didn’t

            Even for the sake of the truth about its people, Israel is not ready to openly agree with Putin on Poland’s participation in the Holocaust. Since Poland is Uncle Sam's beloved wife and he can make atat-ta Jews.
        2. +7
          January 3 2020
          Quote: NEXUS
          .... As I already said before, the GDP has just begun to rake it all. While these are flowers, about the history and who is hu, it is and was in WWII, and there will be berries.
          Poles pretend to be unfairly accused. Ah, they won’t go, they’ve taken offense at the GDP. Only pah at their grievances! am
          1. +4
            January 3 2020
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Poles pretend to be unfairly accused.

            Not offended, but omitted.
            1. +4
              January 3 2020
              Quote: NEXUS
              ..... Not offended, but omitted.

              there are many more am Expects ahead. Still will hide under the baseboard! Yes, it will not help
      4. +4
        January 3 2020
        Polish President not going to Israel to Holocaust Memory Forum

        Conscience tortured?
      5. 0
        January 4 2020
        Do the presidents of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Ukraine go to Israel? In their territories, Jews were exterminated at the ethnic level.
        1. +1
          January 4 2020
          Hmm, I was once in St. Petersburg at advanced training courses back in Soviet times, so one of the students who taught me told them that under Hitler’s power they were much better than when the Soviet troops arrived. Then I realized that we were completely different. I didn’t fight, but the splinter remained with the thought: maybe they really steal too much from us and someone really needs it, like summer and winter, like day and night.
      6. 0
        January 4 2020
        The Polish state (not Poland) is the heir to the anti-Semitic, Russophobic, Ukrainian-Phobian traditions. The Craiova army fought against the USSR and the anti-Hitler coalition, i.e. on the side of Hitler. The same story with the states of the Russian Baltic states (at least with two). But nobody cares: we trade.
    2. +5
      January 3 2020
      And what position can they have? Hyenas are they ..
      1. +6
        January 3 2020
        Quote: 210ox
        Hyenas are they ..

        It also stinks of them. Scavenger. A lot of Jewish blood on their hands. Including from the Holocaust. It's time to remind them of this. And finally deal with Katyn. Everything is muddy there ...
  2. -7
    January 3 2020
    There was a birch in the field ....
    Liu Li stood ...
    1. +5
      January 3 2020
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      There was a birch in the field ....
      Liu Li stood ...

      As I understand it, these are memories of a plane crash with drunken Polish guests? A birch tree was planted specially for them.
      am For a long, long time to abandon all false Polish accusations.
      1. +11
        January 3 2020
        By the way, for a dead tree from drunk Poles, a fine must be demanded.
        1. +1
          January 3 2020
          Quote: Rustic i ......
          By the way, for a dead tree from drunk Poles, a fine must be demanded.

          Well, I think that not only the tree was damaged by the plane, but also other Russian nature. Including insects, maybe birds .....
          Fine ----- this is a very minor punishment.
        2. +1
          January 4 2020
          Quote: Rustic i ......
          By the way, for a dead tree from drunk Poles, a fine must be demanded.

          The forester can count the fine for all trees destroyed when the plane crashes with a drunken company
  3. +3
    January 3 2020
    Against this background, a scandal is being discussed with the production of a play in one of the Polish schools, where scenes were played with how the Nazis (dressed in Nazi uniforms) tortured and killed prisoners of Auschwitz.

    called the Poles a nation that “absorbed anti-Semitism with mother’s milk”.

    And most importantly - continuing to absorb ...
  4. +6
    January 3 2020
    Against this background, a scandal is being discussed with the production of a play in one of the Polish schools, where scenes were played with how the Nazis (dressed in Nazi uniforms) tortured and killed prisoners of Auschwitz.
    Well, who is right here, Putin or the Chairman of the Jewish Communities of Poland, Klara Kolodzeisk-Poltyn, and the country's chief rabbi, Mikhail Shudrikh. At the time, Nazism was also defended by the famous liberalist Ludwig Mises, the grandson of the head of the Jewish community in Lemberg.
    It cannot be denied that fascism and the movements close to it, striving to establish a dictatorship, are full of the best intentions that their intervention at the moment saved European civilization. This merit of fascism will remain in history forever. 1927 year.
    I understand that time, other views, a man fought in the Austrian army against Russia, but now this is nonsense.
    1. +8
      January 3 2020
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Against this background, a scandal is being discussed with the production of a play in one of the Polish schools, where scenes were played with how the Nazis (dressed in Nazi uniforms) tortured and killed prisoners of Auschwitz.
      Well, who is right here, Putin or the Chairman of the Jewish Communities of Poland, Klara Kolodzeisk-Poltyn, and the country's chief rabbi, Mikhail Shudrikh. At the time, Nazism was also defended by the famous liberalist Ludwig Mises, the grandson of the head of the Jewish community in Lemberg.
      It cannot be denied that fascism and the movements close to it, striving to establish a dictatorship, are full of the best intentions that their intervention at the moment saved European civilization. This merit of fascism will remain in history forever. 1927 year.
      I understand that time, other views, a man fought in the Austrian army against Russia, but now this is nonsense.

      I agree, it’s necessary to bend to the sources (analys) of the history of the Psheks, they have already begun to pull the Jews, they have few Russians. Yes
      1. +11
        January 3 2020
        Quote: Not bad
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Against this background, a scandal is being discussed with the production of a play in one of the Polish schools, where scenes were played with how the Nazis (dressed in Nazi uniforms) tortured and killed prisoners of Auschwitz.
        Well, who is right here, Putin or the Chairman of the Jewish Communities of Poland, Klara Kolodzeisk-Poltyn, and the country's chief rabbi, Mikhail Shudrikh. At the time, Nazism was also defended by the famous liberalist Ludwig Mises, the grandson of the head of the Jewish community in Lemberg.
        It cannot be denied that fascism and the movements close to it, striving to establish a dictatorship, are full of the best intentions that their intervention at the moment saved European civilization. This merit of fascism will remain in history forever. 1927 year.
        I understand that time, other views, a man fought in the Austrian army against Russia, but now this is nonsense.

        I agree, it’s necessary to bend to the sources (analys) of the history of the Psheks, they have already begun to pull the Jews, they have few Russians. Yes

        V. hi
        So I think, either someone in our Ministry of Foreign Affairs appeared adequately and convinced the country's leadership of the need for mirror responses to the West, or really "spattered Putin's spiteful saliva" on these "Polish-Baltic-Ukrainian and K" demons ...
      2. +3
        January 3 2020
        Not bad (Viktorovich): it’s necessary to bend to the sources (analys) of the history of Psheks, Jews have already begun to fiddle, they have few Russians Yes

        You have strange humor, Not bad. In your opinion, Russian Poles can be pulled, but Jews can not? What is it like? Twenty million dead of my compatriots - the land rest in peace, and 6 million Jews killed - this is a completely different matter. This is the Holocaust !!! So what?
        and if not, then let the Jews with the pshek themselves bend each other to the sources (anal) of history on this issue. Our business is, first of all, taking care of our people and protecting the memory of our victims
        1. -2
          January 3 2020
          Quote: Rich
          In your opinion, Russian Poles can be pulled, but Jews can not?

          Where are you taking us?
          You can’t see it!
          Follow me!
          Do not twist brains! laughing
        2. 0
          January 4 2020
          Quote: Rich
          then let the Jews with the psheks themselves bend each other to the sources (anal) of history on this issue. Our business is, first of all, taking care of our people and protecting the memory of our victims

          That's right, let them figure out their own mess.
    2. +5
      January 3 2020
      This is all right, but on May 9 Victory Day officially I celebrate only three states: Russia, Belarus and Israel. Only!
      1. +10
        January 3 2020
        Quote: AlexGa
        This is all right, but on May 9 Victory Day officially I celebrate only three states: Russia, Belarus and Israel. Only!

        The rest do not consider themselves victorious, what is the problem? They have sorrow day on May 8th. One way or another is celebrated everywhere.
        1. 0
          January 3 2020
          In Ukraine, Victory Day May 9 holiday, day off
          May 8 is not a day off
        2. +2
          January 4 2020
          Quote: user1212
          The rest do not consider themselves victorious, what is the problem? They have sorrow day on May 8th. One way or another is celebrated everywhere.

          Everything is logical: the winners celebrate, the vanquished mourn. Each country has made its choice regarding victory.
        3. 0
          January 4 2020
          Quote: user1212
          The rest do not consider themselves victorious, what is the problem? They have sorrow day on May 8th.

          The winners have Victory Day, the vanquished have a day of sorrow. To each his own.
    3. 0
      January 3 2020
      Judging by the date and context, this Moses still had in mind Italian fascism.
      1. 0
        January 4 2020
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Judging by the date and context, this Moses still had in mind Italian fascism.

        No German, and I will give you the following quote, but post-war
        It may happen that fascism will soon rise again - with a new name, under different
        slogans and symbols. But if this happens, the consequences will be unenviable. For fascism is not a “new way of life”, as the fascists proclaimed; it is rather the old path to death and destruction
        Ludwig von Mises, 1949

        Ludwig met the fascist coup of General Dolphus with great enthusiasm, and fascism at that moment aroused purely positive feelings in him - it was only after Russian tanks in Berlin that European and American intellectuals became disappointed in fascism. But in 1934, he became an economic adviser to the "little corporal of Austria, Dolphus."
        1. +1
          January 4 2020
          Dolphus is an Austrian Italian fascist. He was a supporter of the preservation of the independence of Austria. In Austria, the Nazis and the Nazis were on their knives. The Nazis were for an independent Austria in alliance with Italy, and the Nazis considered themselves part of German Nazism and advocated joining Germany. Nevertheless, German National Socialism (Nazism) and (Italian) Fascism have a lot of differences from each other. On the racial issue, the differences are very strong. Mussolini considered the racial theory of the Nazis delusional.
  5. +11
    January 3 2020
    Well, whoever doubted, was scared face to face with Putin, it’s better to yap from far away.
  6. +14
    January 3 2020
    Greatly, the Polish authorities drove the Polish authorities into tsuzwang. And how time is successfully chosen. Get for the monuments and sign the bastards!
    1. -4
      January 3 2020
      Yes, nothing to do with the monuments. With the monuments in Poland in order.
  7. +4
    January 3 2020
    Oh damn it. And Mr. BBC, the Polish government is still waiting. Nada to take a penalty
  8. +4
    January 3 2020
    Afraid to go sho there "pissing rags on the tinsel" ???
    So it’s in vain, they’re still giving it)))
  9. +3
    January 3 2020
    He was offended that the media called Putin "the main guest of the forum."
  10. +9
    January 3 2020
    Yes, January 27 is also the day of breaking or lifting the blockade from Leningrad (in secret, my birthday recourse !). And the absence of the Polyakhsky’s lead-out there shows the tip of this country, as it were, in a negative light! I agree, some force majeure did not allow me to go, but there is banal human cowardice! And also the inability to still admit his guilt, the guilt of an entire people for the genocide of the Jews! Still remind some of the genocide of the Soviet people during the war! !!
    1. -9
      January 3 2020
      Let's not forget this too.


      1. +1
        January 3 2020
        We studied the enemy and nothing more.
        Military trick!
      2. +6
        January 4 2020
        Quote: Romka
        Let's not forget this too.

        And let's not forget this too:


      3. 0
        January 4 2020
        What's the problem? First, as you know, the USSR had no allies - only a hostile environment. Secondly, the Soviet troops came into direct contact with the future enemy on the border of the Russian Empire, when the Polish state, hostile to the USSR, ceased to exist. Thirdly, the military of the two armies clarify specific issues in the absence of other means of communication, and not the partition of Poland. The military of the USSR and the Russian Federation also contacted the military of the United States and other "potentially friendly states". Finally, both regimes are not yet ready to go to war with each other. And in the end, it was Stalin who revived the Polish state within its present-day borders.
  11. +4
    January 3 2020
    The President of Poland will not go to Israel to the forum for the memory of the Holocaust "because of Putin"
    Well, yes, it’s one thing to sit and carry all nonsense from your personal account and give completely different answers to uncomfortable questions, and even face to face, people who have plenty of evidence in their hands ...
    So the pan was "blown away" ... but it was ambition, ambition ...
    But will Putin go to Israel amid the events following the assassination of an Iranian general?
    1. +2
      January 3 2020
      I think that Putin will postpone the visit, although on the other hand, he should have gone and told all the scammers of history ...
      1. 0
        January 3 2020
        Quote: cniza
        I think that Putin will postpone the visit, although on the other hand, he should have gone and told all the scammers of history ...

        We will see. I think that he can also act as a "peacemaker".
        1. 0
          January 3 2020
          Yeah, tell everyone what he thinks about them. Yes
    2. -6
      January 3 2020
      And what can I answer to these photos?
      1. +1
        January 4 2020
        Quote: Romka
        And what can I answer to these photos?

        Photographs of modern joint military exercises of different countries belonging to different military blocs and associations. In fact, even to potential rivals. Find yourself.
      2. +1
        January 4 2020
        Quote: Romka
        And what can I answer to these photos?

        And what is strange or unique about them? Poland is an enemy state that has taken away part of the Soviet land. We returned this part by entering the Curzon Line, which was the internationally recognized eastern borders of Poland following the WWI results. Before that, without any problems, the same Poland took part in the partition of Czechoslovakia. What is the problem? Not a single country of the "coalition" has declared war on us for this, including the government of Poland, which has lost it. By the way, after WWII, this is exactly how the Soviet-Polish border was defined, with which all the allies (and before that did not particularly protest), including Poland, agreed.
  12. +2
    January 3 2020
    Here's a moody girl ... of easy virtue. Do not go, and do not. There is no need to feed at the buffet ...
  13. +5
    January 3 2020
    Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz calls the Poles a nation that “absorbed anti-Semitism with their mother’s milk” - but what about the so-called Polish righteous (about whom the Israelis buzzed their ears): is it true that they saved only their relatives and relatives, and the rest of the Jews allowed under the knife?
    1. +5
      January 3 2020
      There are more righteous peoples of the world in Poland than in any other country. But there were more Jews there, than anywhere else. Second place, Holland. There were 25 times fewer Jews and about the same number of people saved them. In absolute terms.
      1. +3
        January 3 2020
        I don’t know how the Dutch, and the Poles overwhelmingly saved only their Jewish relatives and relatives.

        Against the background of such actions of the Europeans in WWII, the position of the local "professor", who completely denies the actions of the whole state (USSR) to save Soviet and European Jews from the genocide of the Germans, looks scary.

        One wonders if one should repeat it in case of what?
        1. -4
          January 3 2020
          laughing
          Now the Jews have their own state with a vigorous loaf. You don’t have to repeat
          1. +6
            January 3 2020
            Pakistan also has it, Iran is on its way, but you know better.
            1. 0
              January 3 2020
              Let there be. )))
      2. -1
        January 3 2020
        Wikipedia writes about it like this
        About 120 thousand Jews were saved in Poland [24]. It is estimated that up to 350 thousand Poles took part in the salvation of Jews to one degree or another, at different stages of salvation [25] (Vladislav Bartoshevsky estimates this number to be a million [26]). At least 5000 Poles who saved or helped Jews were executed by the Nazis for this help [27] [28]. In exile, the Polish government created a special underground agency, Zhegota (Polish Żegota, Council for Helping Jews in the Occupied Territory of Poland; 1942-1945) to organize the rescue of Jews. At its head stood Zofia Kozak-Shchutska [29]. Another prominent figure in this organization is Irena Sendler. In 1942, the Polish underground activist Jan Karski reached Britain with a report on the extermination of Jews and tried to draw the attention of British and American politicians to the need to help them.

        As of January 1, 2016, 6620 people for helping Jews were recognized by the Israeli Institute for Catastrophe and Heroism Yad Vashem as the Righteous of the World [30].

        I don’t know what is the exact data here, what is not, but the fact that everything is not so primitive is simple in that situation, this conclusion suggests itself
        hi
        1. +5
          January 3 2020
          Happy holiday!
          It is clear that not everything is so simple - and the Holocaust feature is a serious thing. In the plan - that someone handed over a neighbor to rob, someone saved, risking his own life, and the bulk did not care. It is clear that saving neighbors-friends-acquaintances were heroes who risked their lives for other people. But judging by the fact that the Jews who returned from the evacuation were drenched by the Poles after the war - everything is really very difficult.
          1. +2
            January 3 2020
            Post-war is also not all simple. Although, of course, what you write had a place to be.
            1. +5
              January 3 2020
              Yes, it’s clear that not everything is clear, just the majority of the Poles are really anti-Semites — there were many Jews there, they spoke Yiddish — and this is the southern German dialect that the Poles did not like, professed their religion, giggled over the state religion, did not assimilate, and etc. Read about the perception of Jews Poles at Bashkevis-Singer. Therefore, the Poles, with their mixture of ambitions and complexes, did not like the Jews.
        2. +4
          January 3 2020
          Of the 1939 million Jews living in Poland at the beginning of September 3,3, 2,8 million died during the war. 85%. Survived the Holocaust 500 thousand. 25 thousand miraculously survived in Nazi-occupied Poland. 30 thousand returned from the Soviet camps. The rest are those who were evacuated on the territory of the USSR. A couple of decades after the war, they turned their country into a Judenfrey. Who does not know, I will explain. So the Nazis of the Third Reich called the territories free from the presence of Jews.
          1. +1
            January 3 2020
            In Bulgaria, Jews were not persecuted during the war, the Bulgarians defended, although the Germans pressed On them, demanded.
            Nevertheless, during the post-war years, there were no more Jews in Bulgaria than in Poland, actually units. Almost everyone left here and there.
            Not so simple
            1. +3
              January 3 2020
              Jews left Bulgaria (along with them, by the way, part of the gypsies who in Israel mixed with Jews), for other reasons - they decided that they would be calmer in their own country.
              1. +2
                January 3 2020
                And from Poland, this was one of the main reasons.
                Actually, they were actively leaving the social block if they let out
                1. +6
                  January 3 2020
                  Not this one. I talked enough with older Polish Jews in Israel. They were squeezed out of there. And the trick was not to get out of the socialist camp - Israel was the same impoverished country led by the Workers Party.
                  1. +2
                    January 3 2020
                    Still from Bulgaria Also traveled despite your argument
                    And many wanted to leave the Union, but the Union at that time was by no means a poor country.
                    But on the other hand, a similar reason will be called by many who left in the late Union, regardless of the real reasons for leaving.
                    But I do not argue that the pressure of Polish nationalism was after the war, including on the Jews. They also left because of this, of course. Only Bulgaria’s example shows that they would leave anyway
                    1. +3
                      January 3 2020
                      Much less left from Holland
                      From france too
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                  2. +1
                    January 3 2020
                    By the way, do you know who this is?
                    The son of the leader of "Fighting Solidarity" Cornel Moravecki. It is of Polish and Jewish origin. His aunt Irina was rescued by the Poles during the Holocaust, at the age of 10 years. Another aunt, named Ruma, managed to escape in the territories that had ceded to the USSR, and now lives in Israel. Many of the relatives died during the Holocaust [4] [5].

                    This is the current Prime Minister of Poland - Tadeusz Moravecki
                    Life is a complicated thing.
                    And not everything can be explained with simple theses
                    I see no reason to discuss such complex and serious issues in a forum format
                    I understand your opinion, I think to discuss further. It does not make much sense.
                    And you too, Happy New Year, all the best to you and your loved ones!
                    hi
                    1. +3
                      January 3 2020
                      Thank you, mutually!
                      By the way, I do not generalize - I'm talking about the bulk of the Poles
            2. +1
              January 3 2020
              Quote: Avior
              In Bulgaria, Jews were not persecuted during the war, the Bulgarians defended, although the Germans pressed On them, demanded.
              Nevertheless, during the post-war years, there were no more Jews in Bulgaria than in Poland, actually units. Almost everyone left here and there.
              Not so simple

              Tsarist Bulgaria was an ally of Nazi Germany and signed the Axis Pact. Tsar Boris initiated anti-Semitic laws similar to those of Nuremberg. Germany demanded the export of Bulgarian Jews for extermination to Germany. And here, quite spontaneously, mass demonstrations of Bulgarians throughout the country began in defense of the Jews. The tsar turned on the reverse gear and when he met with Eichmann's deputy who arrived in the country to resolve the issue of taking Jews to the extermination camps, he said that he represented the Bulgarian people, and they were against the extermination of Jews. Nevertheless, Jews from Thrace, annexed to Bulgaria, were even given to the Nazis. And they were all destroyed. Because "not their own Jews." Regarding the mass repatriation of Bulgarian Jews from a country where there was no anti-Semitism. Bulgarian Jews, immigrants from Spain, not Ashkenazi, communicated among themselves not in Yiddish, but in the extinct Ladino. And unlike the German or Soviet Jews who were inclined towards assimilation in the 20th century, for the most part they were very religious. With an aggravated national self-concept. That is why they left. Like the Georgian Jews from Georgia, where there was no anti-Semitism. About the gypsies who went to Israel. These are generally poor fellows. They were destroyed precisely on the basis of ethnicity. But due to the peculiarities of the culture and history of this people, this genocide did not receive much publicity. And when the Gypsies who survived in the extermination camps saw that the Zionists were evacuating Jews to Israel, they joined in, saying that they were not Gypsies, but Jews, and not only in Bulgaria. There weren't many of them. The numbers are of course unknown, but roughly up to 5-7 thousand. They mingled completely with the Jews, like the Russian Subbotniks. But that was already in Israel.
              1. +4
                January 3 2020
                Thanks for the post, but I know all this
                If you are in Berlin, to the right of the Reichstag at a short distance in the park is a memorial to the Roma victims of the Nazis.
                hi
                1. 0
                  January 3 2020
                  Thank you very much. I have been to Berlin many times. Opposite the central entrance to the Reichstag is a huge memorial museum in memory of the victims of the Holocaust. But I did not know about the museum for the victims of the Holocaust. I treat this people with great respect, because "Whoever asked for an overnight stay will always understand another."
    2. +2
      January 3 2020
      There are ki in every nation. Usually active and organized. And there are normal people. These Poles saved the Jews.
      1. 0
        January 3 2020
        At the beginning of World War II, Poland had the largest Jewish community in Europe: 2 million people. The motives for saving the Jews were different. But the most common, oddly enough, is the salvation of young Jewish little children by monks. They were then baptized for the most part. But Irena Sandler, that yes, she was a purebred Polish before the war for the Jews. Protested when the Polish authorities passed a law stating that Jewish students should occupy only the back benches in classrooms. She saved Jews, risking her life, was sentenced to death .... Recently she died in Poland.
  14. +2
    January 3 2020
    Against this background, a scandal is being discussed with the production of a play in one of the Polish schools, where scenes were played with how the Nazis (dressed in Nazi uniforms) tortured and killed prisoners of Auschwitz.


    A "worthy" generation is being brought up and growing up.
  15. +2
    January 3 2020
    Not a great loss.
    1. +3
      January 3 2020
      Rather acquisition
      1. +2
        January 3 2020
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Rather acquisition


        It is truth too.
  16. +1
    January 3 2020
    Duda was just scared. It happens.
    1. +1
      January 3 2020
      Because there is nothing to cover, it is possible to carry nonsense from one’s own country, but it won’t work there.
    2. +1
      January 3 2020
      Quote: bars1
      Duda was just scared. It happens.

      Nah! He needed a reason, and that’s all, dog krev - that’s all that can be said in this case. Yes
      1. +4
        January 3 2020
        In Hebrew, Duda is a kumar on grass or cocaine))
        1. 0
          January 3 2020
          Quote: Krasnodar
          In Hebrew, Duda is a kumar on grass or cocaine))

          Duda - Mandragora (plant) - cool! laughing
  17. -1
    January 3 2020
    Well. The goal of the company has been achieved. We are not invited anywhere and no one comes to us. Here's your answer. "Unity" -gave at least a small crack.
  18. 0
    January 3 2020
    Yes, our president expels demons with only one presence ....
  19. +1
    January 3 2020
    Yeah, he’s afraid that he won’t be able to answer difficult questions.
  20. +1
    January 3 2020
    Now, if Ukraine invited the dudu to Bandera’s birthday, then another thing.
  21. +4
    January 3 2020
    The President of Poland will not go to Israel to the forum for the memory of the Holocaust "because of Putin"

    This, from the Polish authorities, is another stupid and wrong step. winked
    We wait, sir, then accusations that this is the "hand of the Kremlin" crying
  22. 0
    January 3 2020
    Chuvachok honestly admitted that Putin was right and cries quietly in the corner.
  23. 0
    January 3 2020
    I don’t want to run into a scandal .. that’s not going to go, but Putin is to blame for everything. even that they are Poles
  24. -7
    January 3 2020
    And what is there to do in this Israel? Israel - a racist country, their Zionism is recognized by the UN as a FORM of racism, and Jewish experts also rate religion as racist, too, the Polish president is not a Zionist bedding like Putin - who has met Natanyahu for 14 times - he recently set up an idiotic tantrum, just didn't kiss although not sure ....
  25. 0
    January 3 2020
    I've always been interested in why the WWII began in the 39th, and not in the 38th, when Czechoslovakia was killed by the dzheks with deutsche
    1. +1
      January 3 2020
      Quote: Hwostatij
      I've always been interested in why the WWII began in the 39th, and not in the 38th, when Czechoslovakia was killed by the dzheks with deutsche

      hi Such an "official" representation of the Polish "European hyena" is just a "innocent victim of German aggression" and, under this "legend", the adjusted "WWII start date" was "politically expedient" during the Warsaw Pact and CMEA, since socialist Poland and Czechoslovakia were our allies, as well as the "territorially truncated" East Germany-GDR, and the West Germany-FRG, which remained under American occupation, repented for the crimes of Hitler's "thousand-year Reich", and remained "on the hook" of this guilt, therefore "sat quietly and did not shake rights"!
      The treacherous "catastrophe", the surrender of everything and everything by the Gorbachev gang, set in motion all these lurking "werewolves" and encouraged the overseas "hegemon" to neo-colonial expansion in Europe!
      Poland is the very first Washington Euroshawk, with the habits of a Tabaki jackal from Kipling's "The Jungle Book" - yapping only when Sherkhan looms behind!
      Polish "tobacco" is faced with the task of comprehensive demonization and dehumanization of the image of Russia, which the United States has designated as their "enemy number one"!
      Hence the persistent Polish aspiration (including for reasons of "shifting the arrows" from yourself, because "stop the thief loudest of all!" wink !), put on a par with Hitler, instead of our own Pilsudski, our Stalin, and weave the Soviet Union into the criminals of the Second World War, and even designate the USSR as our invaders, in order to thereby further “stake out” the status of a “victim” and dismiss any claims the Israeli authorities for the genocide of the Polish Jewish population and the Jewish pogroms!
  26. 0
    January 3 2020
    It is necessary to make it a rule to publish archives about the participation of European, and not only, countries about ties with the Nazis. To knock off the gloss of "winners". And then they vtyuhivayut all sorts of stories about the heroic French resistance, the underground in Eastern Europe, the uprising and the attempt on Hitler's life. All of Europe willingly helped the fascists, some openly, some hid behind the status of neutrality.
    1. 0
      January 3 2020
      And they are all laid out, documents of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the USSR, the KGB having bought up the trophy documents of the 3rd Reich of the SD, SS, Gestapo. laughing
      1. -2
        January 3 2020
        Translated, or only in Russian?
        1. 0
          January 3 2020
          Trophy in German, you can read it yourself if you know the language.
  27. +3
    January 3 2020
    The Polish "hyenas" themselves "screwed up" - serving in pursuit of the Fashington "cookies" shortsightedly "stirred up the pages of history", "talked" in a relaxed way ... NOT to recall the "Polish-German allied" Pilsudski-Hitler pact of 1934 and our own, joint with Nazi Germany, "no statute of limitations" war crimes in Europe to incite the Second World War!
    Forgotten Polish lords "golden rule":
    "As you treat others, so they will treat you!"

    and they managed, on their own skin, to confirm one more "historical law":
    "If you shoot at the past with a pistol, it will respond with a cannon shot!"

    Now, as the purulent "thinker" Michal Raisovich used to say: "the process has gone" - not at all as the Polish falsifiers of history had imagined in their most "damp dreams" .... and I think this is just the beginning of the upcoming "karmic" reckoning "for all the good"?! winked

    The Israeli authorities, much earlier than Vladimir Putin, raised the issue of active Polish participation in the Hitler-European "Judenfray" and the murderous genocide of 3500 Polish Jews, plunder and appropriation of their property!
    The hypocrite Duda knows perfectly well that one way or another, this "topic" will inevitably emerge at such a "profile (75th anniversary of the liberation of the death camp Auschwitz (Auschwitz-Birkenau) in Poland)" forum in Israel! So, he cowardly avoids not only the Russian President! wink

    For many decades, the "communist myth" defended by the Soviet Union about the alleged "innocent Poland, the poor victim of German aggression" will now be naturally debunked and buried!
    In many ways, this is due to the "efforts" of the ungrateful Polish authorities themselves (in fact, terry Russophobes, anti-Soviet! negative ), who have arrogantly lost their "sense of proportion" in the "demonization" of our common
    "Soviet past" and in their insinuating "games with history" ... let them blame themselves, because
    "For that fought for it and ran!"
    Yes
  28. 0
    January 3 2020
    According to her, one of the main reasons for Duda's refusal to travel is that "the main guest should be Russian President Vladimir Putin."

    The newspaper calls another problem that the event in Jerusalem was organized with the participation of Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz, who last year made a statement that Poles "absorbed anti-Semitism with their mother's milk."

    In addition, it is noted that in Poland, celebrations in Israel are seen as an alternative to the celebration of the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp, which will be held in Auschwitz on January 27, on the International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

    The World Holocaust Forum will be held in Israel for the fifth time. The presidents of France, Germany and Italy have already confirmed their arrival.
    1. -1
      January 3 2020
      In the autobiographical book "After the Execution" of the Soviet Ukrainian writer Vadim Boyko, it is indicated that the team serving the crematorium in Auschwitz consisted entirely of Jews ... I wonder how the Israelis will comment on this fact? What's more interesting is why Jews from western and central Europe agreed to move to eastern Europe, after all, no one knew that one of the final points would be Auschwitz ...
  29. 0
    January 3 2020
    AAA! "Reached out, damned!" laughing
  30. -1
    January 3 2020
    Here is the prankster! Cheap room, quite in the style of polstitutok. I was afraid they might. laughing
  31. 0
    January 3 2020
    The Poles had only two options to choose from and they traditionally chose the worst for themselves!
  32. +1
    January 3 2020
    The clown will look great when the GDP transfers copies of documents revealing the role to Poland to the Holocaust Museum laughing
  33. +1
    January 3 2020
    And who remembers the article from "Ogonyok" "Polish Lessons"? (89g.)
    It told about the cooperative movement in Poland and gave the names of nimble businessmen ... Two Jewish brothers got rich, and decided with a cash of 100 million. evergreens to emigrate to their "historical homeland" ... But in this very territory they knew very well that the Ashkenazi's homeland was not at all on the Promised Land, and when the brothers decided to open their own bank there, they were popularly explained that the rules here were somewhat different ... passports, as if let down :)
    1. +3
      January 3 2020
      Quote: Karen
      And who remembers the article from "Ogonyok" "Polish Lessons"? (89g.)

      Happy New Year Karen - jan!
      At VO, I had to read comments from eyewitnesses in a more interesting way!
      I won’t write verbatim, but the point is that at the joint exercises of the Warsaw Pact countries only the Poles traded in brassiere trade! The Germans from the GDR (namely, one of them commented here) got their hair on end from such a gesheft! Here you have it "passport column"! bully
      1. +2
        January 3 2020
        Happy New Year with a new happiness!!!
        And those Polish citizens were definitely Poles? :)

        Well, from acquaintances who served in the German Democratic Republic ... fear was weathered very late on one occasion ... They say that it was often that the policemen came to the unit with one German ... whom the German pointed out of order was judged by article rape ...
        1. +2
          January 3 2020
          Quote: Karen
          Happy New Year with a new happiness!!!

          Do you know the sequel? wink
          Happy New Year with a new happiness,
          With constant luck -
          Here is a hello to dog love
          You accept it with participation. (c) F.I. Tyutchev
          What do you think the verse is about?
          Quote: Karen
          And those Polish citizens were definitely Poles? :)

          I’m sure that yes, an eyewitness wrote about the Poles - a German from the German Democratic Republic, our comrade, I don’t remember his nickname in VO, maybe the old-timers will tell me.
          ps cheyut minus you, corrected you karma hi
          1. +2
            January 3 2020
            I didn’t know about the continuation :)

            If a Polish citizen was trading, then this does not mean a Pole :)
            ____
            They always pass me by, or neighbors, or the sons of Israel, as usual ... Thanks for the "+", but this is unnecessary ...
            1. +2
              January 3 2020
              Quote: Karen
              I didn’t know about the continuation :)

              Well, that's okay, I wanted to ask, "dog love" is this about you?
              Quote: Karen
              If a Polish citizen was trading, then this does not mean a Pole :)

              There, not one Polish Army soldier was discussed, but a mass sale in the Polish tent sector.
              Quote: Karen
              Always pass me by, or neighbors, or the sons of Israel

              laughing
              Quote: Karen
              Thanks for the "+", but this is overkill ...

              Catch more from Tula! hi
              1. +1
                January 3 2020
                Dog love - faithfulness, devotion to the end comes to mind ...
                Tula ... My buddy left there in 93 ... A customer representative ... Sorry, passed away ...
                1. +2
                  January 3 2020
                  Quote: Karen
                  Dog love - faithfulness, devotion to the end comes to mind ...

                  Once again I am convinced of the similarity of Armenian and Russian thinking hi
                  Quote: Karen
                  Sorry, passed away ...

                  I'm so sorry.
    2. +3
      January 3 2020
      Quote: Karen
      And who remembers the article from "Ogonyok" "Polish Lessons"? (89g.)
      It told about the cooperative movement in Poland and gave the names of nimble businessmen ... Two Jewish brothers got rich, and decided with a cash of 100 million. evergreens to emigrate to their "historical homeland" ... But in this very territory they knew very well that the Ashkenazi's homeland was not at all on the Promised Land, and when the brothers decided to open their own bank there, they were popularly explained that the rules here were somewhat different ... passports, as if let down :)

      Karen Jan, Happy New Year!
      Where is Ashkenazi's homeland? In Turkey? laughing
      1. +2
        January 3 2020
        Happy New Year, Albert Jan !!!
        Albert, I gave a convincing example where it is shown that Sephardim do not consider their Ashkenazi :)
        And I advise you not to ask me what I know about today's acts of Ashkenazi ... I can tell you about this ahead of time :)
        1. +3
          January 3 2020
          laughing
          Sephardic people, for the most part, are much poorer and less influential. They came to power in Israel for years by the 80s. Karen, your convincing story goes to school for children with special needs - with a hundred million dollars in Israel, you will come up with a grandfather by the name of Dial and will not see that you came from a country that surpassed Swaziland and was catching up with Jordan in terms of GDP per capita hi
          1. +3
            January 3 2020
            Albert Dzhan, if the power of state officials is strong ... money next to them means almost nothing ... And I can give an example ... There is such a story ... There was one Ashkenazi, rich, because he successfully married ... Many Soviet problems He decided the Jews with one call to the Soviet embassy in Budapest ... And he became proud ... What the Sephardim did not like ... Scuba divers drowned him ...
            1. +3
              January 3 2020
              laughing
              So - this is for children with very special needs ....))
              Once again, for your overall development, Sephardim in power appeared by the mid-80s. Sephardic dollar billionaires - 5 people from strength. Scuba divers drowned, paratroopers dropped from the plane, the astronauts launched into zero gravity - this is ... entertaining laughing
          2. +1
            January 3 2020
            Quote: Krasnodar
            You will come up with a grandfather by the name of Dial

            The dial is golden though?
            1. +2
              January 3 2020
              Mordvin 3, well, don’t have to waste time :) The dream of all the strongest watchmakers in the world to make everything visible in watches diamond - was realized by an Armenian, from Switzerland ... :)
            2. +5
              January 3 2020
              Well, grandfather by the name of the barrier
  34. 0
    January 3 2020
    Quote: Avior
    According to [Polish] estimates, up to 350 thousand Poles took part in the rescue of Jews ... 6620 people recognized by the Israeli Institute of Yad Vashem as the righteous of the world

    350000 and 6000 - nothing like (postscript)?

    In any case, the remaining millions of Poles enthusiastically realized "anti-Semitism absorbed with mother's milk."
    1. 0
      January 3 2020
      This is not an indicator at all, as Yad Vashem himself directly says, there are many subtleties in awarding this title
      This is how it is written on Wikipedia
      Yad Vashem notes that according to these statistics one should not draw conclusions about attitudes toward Jews and the extent of salvation in different countries. These statistics do not reflect the full extent of the phenomenon, but only the information that has become available to Yad Vashem. For example, in Eastern Europe, the ability to conduct research and reward the righteous was blocked for many years by communist regimes.

      There are 26500 righteous in the world, of which 650 are from Belarus, 200 from Russia, 900 from Lithuania, 2600 from Ukraine and about 200-300 people from other republics of the USSR.

      https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Праведники_народов_мира

      It is clear that there were much more cases of rescue of Jews
      1. +1
        January 4 2020
        The comments already provided very indicative final data (and not Wikipedia estimates from the ceiling) on ​​the number of Polish Jews: 3,3 million at the beginning of the war, 0,5 million at the end of the war (in the vast majority of survivors in the territories included in the the composition of the USSR in 1939).

        Given that, according to the Israeli account, the number of Polish "righteous" is 2 times higher than the number of Soviet "righteous".

        Your works are wonderful, Lord laughing
  35. 0
    January 3 2020
    Quote: Reptiloid
    A birch tree was planted specially for them.

    Yeah. even under Ivan Susanin they buried a seedling.
  36. 0
    January 3 2020
    It is incomprehensible their obstinacy in recognizing this issue, well, they would say that they were pro-fascist forces and New Poland has nothing to do with it, but no, they rested, as if they had anti-simitism, is a national idea and they cannot recognize its miraculous nature, moreover the behavior of the Jews is strange, and the Poles are also otmazyvayut, like do not care what happened, and now we are together oophophobic and against Russia ... though looking at those who steers in Russia, the whole of Russia is also against those who steers.
    In general, the West must decide whether it is against the current government of Russia or Russia as a state and its people.
  37. -1
    January 3 2020
    But really, what is Nazi litter to do at such an event? Putin knew what and when to say, it would be necessary, he would finish it off at the event itself .... Let him go to Ukraine, collect his sabbath, Lukashenko will be pulled up, and the lines of joint statements, notes and so on. This is the fate of unfinished victims.
  38. -1
    January 3 2020
    waited. finally, the Polish elite, not hiding behind verbiage and their hypocrisy, openly showed who they really are. But really, what should they do there?
  39. -2
    January 3 2020
    Nudges Duda on a strong master's hand.
  40. -2
    January 3 2020
    Who would doubt it? After the dumplings were dipped in their shit with the statement of their ambassador in THOSE days, and due to the fact that they didn’t have enough brains to keep silent, letting the incident go on the brakes, pretending that they hadn’t noticed a mistake, they climbed onto the rampart, defending THEN your bastard policy, appearing in Israel is to show your lingerie from head to toe. Publicly.
  41. gcn
    0
    January 3 2020
    There are a lot of letters on top. It’s enough for me on YouTube to see how the Eichmann was caught.
  42. 0
    January 3 2020
    Reports are coming from Poland about the decision of the president of the country regarding an invitation to Holocaust Remembrance Day in Israel.
    Or maybe this is the right decision for the Psheks, because during the WWII, for the most part, they helped the Germans to genocide the Jews.
    On these Poles, as well as on Ukrainian Bandera, sin is indelible for the Holocaust.
  43. +1
    January 3 2020
    Quote: Zliy_mod
    In the autobiographical book "After the Execution" of the Soviet Ukrainian writer Vadim Boyko, it is indicated that the team serving the crematorium in Auschwitz consisted entirely of Jews ... I wonder how the Israelis will comment on this fact? What's more interesting is why Jews from western and central Europe agreed to move to eastern Europe, after all, no one knew that one of the final points would be Auschwitz ...

    American Brian Rigg wrote the book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers". He served as a volunteer in the Israel Defense Forces, the United States Marine Corps. And he did some serious research on the topic.

    150 thousand Jewish soldiers in the Wehrmacht. Officers, generals, privates. Colonel Walter Holland, the owner of the rare military "Golden Cross" and other knightly iron crosses, Adolf himself signed a document commanding to consider Holland a pure Aryan.

    The soldiers earned 20 knight's crosses, not counting hundreds of soldiers' Iron Crosses. There was a case when the owner of the Iron Cross came to Sachsenhausen to see his mother. The camp commandant said to the brave man - "Say thank you for such an award, otherwise you would sit next to your mother ..." laughing
    1. +2
      January 3 2020
      In general, up to 1933 thousand Jews lived in Germany until 600. That is, Hitler called on every fourth of them? lol
      Someone complexes))))
      But about ten Jews probably really served in the Wehrmacht. A couple more dozen halves. Precisely served laughing
  44. +1
    January 3 2020
    Putin fit in vain for them. He, like a true reconnaissance saboteur, crept into the rear of the enemy and poured a pack of yeast into the hole of their restroom ...) laughing
  45. +1
    January 3 2020
    Chief Rabbi of Ukraine Yakov Dov Bleich, together with the Ambassador of Canada and the head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church Svyatoslav, as well as the head of the Ukrainian schismatics Epiphany Dumenko, opened and consecrated a monument to the "heroes" of the OUN-UPA (an organization whose activities are prohibited in the Russian Federation) at the Sambor Jewish cemetery. The director of the Ukrainian Jewish Committee, Eduard Dolinsky, announced this on his Facebook page.

    laughing
    1. +3
      January 3 2020
      And ... this ... since when have Jews consecrated monuments? lol
      1. 0
        January 3 2020
        They even shake hands and go on a visit laughing
        1. +3
          January 3 2020
          Of course, in the church? laughing
      2. 0
        January 3 2020
        The consecration ceremony was also attended by Chief Rabbi Jacob Dov Bleich, local authorities and the Canadian Ambassador to Ukraine, Roman Vashchuk.
        Outrage at this event was expressed by the director of the Ukrainian Jewish Committee, Eduard Dolinsky.

        It is noted that the construction of the OUN-UPA monument was financed by the Canadian philanthropist, the head of the Ukrainian-Jewish Meeting, James Temerty

        It seems strange to the Jews that some of them serve the local authorities strenuously, others condemn it, others finance it, I want to ask the Jews who are you for, you have no pride and memory? Or just the right Jews live in Israel?
        1. -1
          January 3 2020
          And this is from the book Kruglov A.I. N N I T T I E N I E E V R E Y S K O G O N A S E L E N I
          UNDERSTANDING
          B 19 4 1 - 1 9 4 4 g H R O N I K A S O B Y T I Y.
          On the 18th, a meeting of the leadership of UPA “Poles-
          Sich’s Sich ”, in which the centurion K. Sygolenko (aka Chaim Sigal,
          a Jew from Lviv) reported that Hauptsturmfyu, who had arrived to them,
          SSR Gitchke from Zhitomir asks for assistance in the distribution of
          le Jews of Olevsk; such assistance was decided at the meeting
          render.
          On the 19th in Olevsk (Zhytomyr region) were
          535 Jews; two elders participated in the execution (including
          including the “centurion Sygolenko”) and 60 “Cossacks” from the UPA “Polesskaya”
          slash. "
          34
          1. -1
            January 3 2020
            As a result, grandmother told how Jews were killed in the village of Kalnik, in the above book 20 and 80 Jews were shot in two days, but in reality they were forced to dig a hole by themselves and drove everyone there, and then they fell asleep alive, she saw it with her own eyes, was a little girl who was also thrown into the pit, but local aunts shouted sho she is ours and this saved her, pulled her out and gave a kick in the ass ...
            Thus, at least 1400 were destroyed in Ukraine
            thousand Jews, and with the addition of unaccounted for victims - about 1,5 million
            Jews.
            Jews should be added to the indicated number of victims.
            killed on the fronts and in captivity, as well as Jews who were destroyed
            also in Russia (mainly in the North Caucasus -
            ze), where they were evacuated in 1941 and where the Germans found them
            in 1942. With this in mind, the total number of dead Jews can
            but estimated at 1,6 million
  46. +1
    January 3 2020
    yes and to hell with him
  47. +1
    January 3 2020
    It’s not even interesting what the chief Polish rabbi will say.
  48. 0
    January 3 2020
    75 years since the liberation by Soviet soldiers of prisoners of the Auschwitz death camp (Auschwitz-Birkenau), which was located in Poland.

    Now many poloamo (defenders of Poland) are excited and shift the blame to Germany, that is, they did not organize Auschwitz.
    Only there are already quite a few documents, including testimonies, how the Poles handed over our people to the Gestapo
  49. -1
    January 3 2020
    Reports are coming from Poland about the decision of the president of the country regarding an invitation to Holocaust Remembrance Day in Israel.

    Not the Holocaust but genocide, the Jews are no different from the victims of Nazi Nazism.
  50. +1
    January 3 2020
    Well, that Jews will cry for psheks in whose concentration camps the Jews and destroyed!
    In the camp, by the way, the service was from local gentlemen ...
  51. 0
    January 3 2020
    Russian President Vladimir Putin will be present at the World Forum, who will raise the issue of the complicity of the Polish authorities in 1938-1939 with Hitler, including in terms of the idea of ​​deporting Jews to Africa.

    Duda is very afraid that details that are inconvenient for Poland will come to light about Auschwitz, Majdanek and other inconvenient places. In addition, there is a lot of evidence about how the Poles handed over Jews to the Gestapo.
    In this situation, simply repenting will not work. But the budget doesn’t allow me to pay.
    HOTELS
    Wielka Polska od morza do morza

    But they caved in to Germany, to Russia... But they still didn’t decide who was better... One word - a country with a lower...
  52. 0
    January 3 2020
    Andrzej Duda (Polish President) showed that the Poles “have nothing to cover”... They could say that after celebrating the New Year, A. Duda has a “headache”...
  53. 0
    January 3 2020
    Then everyone will be upset. Forum guests simply won’t be able to sleep...
    how is it, then, the Polish guarantor will not arrive, the clear sun will not shine on the Basurman countryman
  54. 0
    January 3 2020
    Quote: Avior
    Find some way out
    For example, they will glorify Major Anatoly Shapiro, who, with his fighters, freed the prisoners of Auschwitz.


    As you can see, the attitude to Stalin in Ukraine does not interfere.
    And the Poles will find some way out, you can have no doubt, this or that
    hi

    If you remain silent and don’t slap us in the face, virtually, of course, in the press, on the Internet, then, of course, it will happen. Torchlight processions will smoothly flow from Ukrofascism to Poland-fascism. Nationalism is contagious. If one considers himself superior to everyone, then why can’t the other think the same? And nationalism THERE is flowers. Inevitably, this may come to Russia. And we have a lot of nuclear hammers..... It won’t be fun for everyone.
  55. +2
    January 3 2020
    The President of Poland will not go to Israel to the forum for the memory of the Holocaust "because of Putin"
    Really, well, how will Duda look Putin in the eyes? If the Poles, like the Germans, have blood up to their shoulders when it comes to Jews! After all, people are still alive - victims of the Poles - and documents have been preserved about the participation of Poles in the Holocaust of Jews in Poland! You can’t argue against historical truth!

    1. It was the Poles in 1938, in alliance with Hitler’s Germany, who simultaneously invaded the sovereign lands of the European Czechoslovak Republic, a member country of the League of Nations.
    2. The Poles adopted their own set of anti-Jewish laws, similar to the Nazi ones, which were condemned by the Nuremberg Tribunal, in the mid-1920s - i.e. a decade before the Nazis!
    3. The first concentration camp on Polish territory was built not by the Germans, but by the Poles themselves even before the start of WWII in Bereza-Kartuzskaya, where horrors happened no worse than later in Auschwitz, Birkenau or Dachau.
    4. In 1939-1940, the German occupiers were engaged in “cleaning up” the ghettos, into which Polish Jews were forcibly resettled, and then the ghetto residents were sent to death camps. Trying to avoid deportation, many Jews hid in the countryside. They hid in the forests or sought protection from the local population.
    To find the Jews hiding, the German police officers responsible for maintaining the occupation regime tried to persuade the predominantly Catholic and anti-Semitic rural population to assist in the search for Jews. Often these searches turned into a hunt that lasted several days or even a whole week.
    5. In the small town of Jedbawna, near Warsaw, on July 10, 1941, a crowd of Poles drove the Jewish population into the square. In the presence of the German occupiers, some Jews were killed along the way, and the rest were driven into a barn and burned alive there. A total of 340 people - men, women and children - died in the fire.
    6. Even after the war - after the liberation of Poland by the Red Army from the German occupiers - on July 4, 1946, in the city of Kielce near Warsaw, Polish militias and civilians during a pogrom attacked Jews who had survived the horrors of National Socialist madness. During the pogrom, 42 people were killed.
  56. 0
    January 4 2020
    [quote=svp67][quote]But will Putin go to Israel against the background of the events after the assassination of the Iranian general?[/quote]
    In Israel, a fly won't fly near Putin.....
  57. 0
    January 4 2020
    It’s still beautiful that Putin started such things in one phrase...
    That’s the same psheki, it’s not for you to demolish monuments to Soviet soldiers and choke on rabid Russophobia.. We will also provide archives as confirmation!!!
  58. 0
    January 4 2020
    Quote: Zliy_mod
    In the autobiographical book “After the Execution” by the Soviet Ukrainian writer Vadim Boyko, it is stated that the team serving the crematorium in Auschwitz consisted entirely of Jews... I wonder how the Israelis will comment on this fact? ..

    How do you comment on the fact that doomed people, regardless of nationality, dug their own graves?
    Usually, such crazy questions are asked by the descendants of those policemen who destroyed the civilian population.....
  59. -1
    January 8 2020
    Quote: Krasnodar
    In general, up to 1933 thousand Jews lived in Germany until 600. That is, Hitler called on every fourth of them? lol
    Someone complexes))))
    But about ten Jews probably really served in the Wehrmacht. A couple more dozen halves. Precisely served laughing

    The ethnic composition of prisoners of war who surrendered to the Soviet army during the Great Patriotic War (excluding the Japanese, but those who fought with weapons in their hands and were captured).



    So, Germans - 2, Hungarians - 389, Romanians - 560, Austrians - 513, Czechs and Slovaks - 767, Poles - 187, Italians - 370, French - 156, Croats - 682, Moldovans - 69, Jews - 977, Dutch - 60, Finns - 280, Belgians - 48, Luxembourgers - 957, Danes - 23, Spaniards - 136, Gypsies - 21, Norwegians - 822, Swedes - 14. laughing

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