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A few days in the tank: Russian tank "Armata" surpasses Western cars in comfort

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Western press admires contemporary Russian a tank, which, as it turns out, has no analogues in the world in terms of comfort.


The new Russian tank, which costs as much as three million pounds, notes the British newspaper "Daily Mail"- This is the first tank in the world equipped with a toilet bowl (you can even flush it). And if so, the Russian soldiers no longer need, as before, to go "in boxes of ammunition."

T-14 “Armata”, writes the publication further, is considered perfection in the world of armored vehicles. After all, "the toilet on board will allow the crew to carry out long-term combat missions." Support systems allow you to spend in the tank "at least a few days."

The Kremlin is promoting the T-14 with a crew of three as the most advanced armored vehicle, the publication continues. Tankers can serve in the tank for several days continuously! Therefore, a modern solution was found that allowed the soldiers to be provided with a toilet, where they could cope with their natural needs.

In addition to the toilet, the tank is equipped, the newspaper continues, with “the most modern equipment”, including a 125-mm smoothbore gun, strong armor, software that allows you to capture targets, and two machine guns. The speed of the Russian tank is more than fifty miles per hour.

In an interview with another British publication, Mirror Online, Ilya Baranov, an employee of a defense company manufacturing tanks, said the new addition would eliminate the difficulty of using the toilet. “That's why there is a so-called life support system or, simply put, a restroom,” he explained.

Neither American nor British tanks have fully functioning “on-board toilets”, the Daily Mail is sad.
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Vitaly V. Kuzmin, vitalykuzmin.net, commons.wikimedia.org
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  1. The popuas
    The popuas 31 December 2019 08: 21
    +32
    Having a restroom in the modern world
    1. Finches
      Finches 31 December 2019 08: 52
      +35
      I remembered imperishable:

      “The general paid so much attention to latrines, as if the victory of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy depended on them. Regarding the situation created in connection with the declaration of war by Italy, the general said that just in latrines is our undoubted advantage in the Italian campaign. flowed out of the latrine. " laughing

      When I was a tankman they said that - the main thing in that wasn’t ... They solved, then, this problem! laughing
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 31 December 2019 08: 58
        +13
        Quote: Finches
        When I was a tankman they said that - the main thing in that wasn’t ... They solved, then, this problem!

        Next comes the burning question - what happens if you throw scrap into a tank point on the go?
        Well, interest is no less interesting than scrap in a traveled toilet, because people calmed down only after a series of experiments!
        1. Finches
          Finches 31 December 2019 09: 01
          +18
          There is no answer to this burning question without serious comprehensive engineering analysis! hi laughing
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 31 December 2019 09: 03
            +2
            Quote: Finches
            There is no answer to this burning question without serious comprehensive engineering analysis!

            Only a series of experiments in the presence of independent experts can calm the public!
            1. Finches
              Finches 31 December 2019 09: 06
              +12
              With compulsory broadcast live on all Russian TV channels in prime time! Instead of Kiselevsky Results of the week laughing
              1. Victor_B
                Victor_B 31 December 2019 09: 07
                +5
                Quote: Finches
                With compulsory broadcast live

                At the same time, the action cameras should be located, including the bottom!
                1. Finches
                  Finches 31 December 2019 09: 09
                  +4
                  This is a very sensible update !!!
                  1. Lexus
                    Lexus 31 December 2019 11: 56
                    +14
                    Uhh. You palekhche here laughing Some may decide that since this is the case, tankers can not be provided with housing! As in that joke about felt boots. lol
            2. sergo1914
              sergo1914 31 December 2019 10: 01
              +2
              Quote: Victor_B
              Quote: Finches
              There is no answer to this burning question without serious comprehensive engineering analysis!

              Only a series of experiments in the presence of independent experts can calm the public!


              Unscientific. At first, a comprehensive theoretical study. Creating a mathematical model of the process.
              1. Finches
                Finches 31 December 2019 10: 12
                +5
                Here you need to create a research institute with a good and modern laboratory base! Rogozin to transfer from Roscosmos to oversee this most important area ...
            3. Berg berg
              Berg berg 1 January 2020 13: 18
              +1
              Only the experimenter himself with the crowbar, let him spend it sitting on this jerk!
        2. KCA
          KCA 31 December 2019 09: 08
          +7
          If you are concerned about the spectacle topic, then you are probably familiar with the results of the research - the crowbar thrown into the train’s point does not interfere with the train’s movement and does not destroy the point itself
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 31 December 2019 09: 10
            -2
            Quote: KCA
            the scrap thrown into the train’s point in no way interferes with the train’s movement and does not destroy the point itself

            Vot!
            And now, please be so kind as to prove that Apmata’s point will not remain ... broken!
          2. Finches
            Finches 31 December 2019 09: 25
            +2
            Do not destroy intrigue laughing
          3. sergo1914
            sergo1914 31 December 2019 10: 02
            0
            Quote: KCA
            If you are concerned about the spectacle topic, then you are probably familiar with the results of the research - the crowbar thrown into the train’s point does not interfere with the train’s movement and does not destroy the point itself


            I’m embarrassed to ask .... Where does such confidence come from?
            1. Skarpzd
              Skarpzd 31 December 2019 10: 11
              +1
              and what should happen at all ??? gathering composition? wagon destruction? so no way.
            2. KCA
              KCA 31 December 2019 10: 15
              +2
              You simply can’t shove the crowbar into the pipe of the train car’s point, the mount, if only, but from the mount only tink on the embankment and the whole effect
          4. seregatara1969
            seregatara1969 31 December 2019 10: 30
            +1
            and the hatch in the bottom of the tank could not have played the role of a small toilet before? and was it really necessary, if there was a hatch, to drop it into a "box"?
          5. IL-64
            IL-64 31 December 2019 11: 38
            -1
            Strictly speaking, it depends on the length of the scrap fellow
        3. I am
          I am 1 January 2020 13: 50
          0
          Regarding the toilet and its vulnerability, the solution in the film "Two Torn Down Towers" from the Goblin is well shown, translated as "God's spark" ........ and yes, in a normal battle, the life of the tank is 40 minutes ..... it seems there not to the toilet will be .... and the rest of course everything is great!
        4. The popuas
          The popuas 2 January 2020 09: 44
          +1
          Hardly there through to the ground laughing .... now bio is in trend
      2. KCA
        KCA 31 December 2019 09: 06
        +15
        I can't read Hasek in Czech, but the translator was clearly a virtuoso in both Czech and Russian, the whole "Schweik" is just like a song read
      3. Evil Booth
        Evil Booth 31 December 2019 10: 09
        -2
        Quote: Nick
        Having a restroom in the modern world

        In any case, it will be more convenient to fight by emptying the toilet than emptying into your own breeches.
        Reply
        Quote
        A complaint
        Nru vbsche grief at this all did not give a shit but in the course of something went wrong.
      4. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 31 December 2019 11: 56
        +5
        The next generation tank will have a shower room and a kitchen, and possibly a separate cabin for the commander.
        1. Finches
          Finches 31 December 2019 11: 59
          +5
          And an inflatable woman (three), and then you can not leave the tank at all ... laughing
          1. tracer
            tracer 1 January 2020 04: 52
            +3
            And the head of the evil inflatable. Then, in general, you can do the whole service without leaving the tank then ..
    2. ABM
      ABM 31 December 2019 09: 33
      +7
      And what if there is Curie radiation outside? Do not have time to get a member, as it falls off. So yes, the right thing
      1. KCA
        KCA 31 December 2019 10: 19
        +1
        Meaning? Well, not this moment, but it’s still necessary to get out of the tank, well, it’s not one and a half, but half or 0,1 curie, it’s not important to live a day or a month, the result is all the same only one
      2. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 31 December 2019 12: 12
        +2
        Before you get something, you need to check the situation.
    3. knn54
      knn54 31 December 2019 09: 44
      0
      The British were used to fighting in comfort. During the Kiev maneuvers of 1935, when ours were with foreign
      guests bathed in the Dnieper, batmen of British officers on the side filtered water into special rubber baths for their commanders.
    4. Nick
      Nick 31 December 2019 09: 45
      +5
      soldier
      Quote: Popuas
      Having a restroom in the modern world

      In any case, it will be more convenient to fight by emptying the toilet than emptying into your own breeches. feel hi
    5. figwam
      figwam 31 December 2019 09: 47
      +4
      Quote: Popuas
      Having a restroom in the modern world

      So in space it is better with us, now it is in the tank. A tank rides in Washington and marks territory on the move)))
    6. den3080
      den3080 31 December 2019 10: 32
      +1
      Quote: Popuas
      Having a restroom in the modern world

      you don’t understand subtle English humor :)
      1. cost
        cost 31 December 2019 13: 44
        +12
        The new Russian tank, which costs as much as three million pounds, the British newspaper Daily Mail notes, is the first tank in the world equipped with a toilet (you can even flush it). And if so, the Russian soldiers no longer need, as before, to go "in boxes of ammunition."

        The Daily Mail shyly kept silent that this was possible thanks to the seizure of Ukrainian ships near Kerch laughing
    7. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 1 January 2020 13: 24
      0
      Having a restroom in the modern world

      Anecdote about this.
      The teacher, gray-haired colonel tanker in the classroom asks the question:
      - Comrade cadets! What is the main thing in a tank during a battle?
      - A gun!
      - No.
      - Communication, walkie-talkie!
      - No.
      - The crew!
      - No.
      What ?! What?
      - Comrade cadets, the most important thing in a tank during a battle is not to get over it.
    8. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 1 January 2020 23: 35
      0
      By the way, in the topic: a question for tankers. What is the main thing in a tank?
  2. Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 December 2019 08: 22
    -13
    for comfort there are no analogues in the world.
    And then I was a naive scoop thought that tanks are for war. And that means girls, kebab.
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 31 December 2019 09: 29
      -20
      Archive! This Soviet army could fight, and the Russian one, only pulling each other in tows in parades.
    2. Nick
      Nick 31 December 2019 09: 51
      +6
      Quote: Gardamir
      for comfort there are no analogues in the world.
      And then I was a naive scoop thought that tanks are for war. And that means girls, kebab.

      War is work, risky, dangerous, but work, so the convenience and well-thought-out ergonomics help fighters to carry out their combat work with greater efficiency. Well, girls? And then the girls ... wink soldier
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 31 December 2019 10: 24
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      And then I was a naive scoop thought that tanks are for war.

      A soviet Kolovrat?
    4. Squelcher
      Squelcher 31 December 2019 11: 14
      +6
      I am always amazed at the attitude of some of the so-called "Soviet" officers, who considered and treated soldiers like cattle - if only they had completed their combat mission.
      Thanks to such "fathers of commanders" the word "scoop" appeared in a negative sense. The soldiers will give their lives, so let them serve in peacetime in Human, not bestial conditions.
    5. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 31 December 2019 12: 56
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      I’m a naive scoop

      It is what it is. yes Moreover, bypassing the Soviet Army. laughing
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 31 December 2019 12: 59
        -1
        Moreover, bypassing the Soviet Army
        I wonder if I post a screen of my military card, will you be removed from the site, or how did any anti-adviser have no conscience and no?
        1. cost
          cost 31 December 2019 14: 08
          +5
          Stop measuring military IDs. It's not about anything. About six months after my retirement, I was summoned to the military registration and enlistment office and entered the rank of "senior sergeant" on my military ID. When I asked why is so weak. I was reasonably answered - by the age of 50, they could go to the training camp at least once laughing Moreover, this same ticket I last saw in 1981, when a sergeant enlisted as a conscript in VPPPKU. Since then, this ticket apparently lived its own military draft laughing
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 31 December 2019 15: 11
            0
            be measured by military tickets
            it’s not a matter of measurements. The man proudly lied and judging by the reaction on the site, a lie is a blessing. This is what we are arguing about here. Some people think that a lot of cars in the yards is a blessing, and I think that consumers have an unnecessary conscience. And they are not shy about it. These are real achievements.
            1. Good_Anonymous
              Good_Anonymous 31 December 2019 16: 58
              +1
              Quote: Gardamir
              and judging by the reaction on the site, a lie is good


              You disrespectfully spoke about the work of the designers and the work of the tankers, you were bombarded. What did you expect ...
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 31 December 2019 17: 33
                -1
                I don’t agree about the work of the designer. If the most powerful gun or the strongest armor, and then the toilet.
                Imagine 1941, near Moscow, the Soviet army in insulated houses, with a refrigerator and, radio.
                With what pride do they discuss the toilet as an achievement of military thought.
                1. Good_Anonymous
                  Good_Anonymous 31 December 2019 17: 38
                  +2
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  I don’t agree about the work of the designer. If the most powerful gun or the strongest armor, and then the toilet.


                  I think that no one has reason to believe that the toilet was done to the detriment of the cannon or armor.

                  Quote: Gardamir
                  With what pride do they discuss the toilet as an achievement of military thought.


                  In general, military equipment has such a criterion as "habitability", and the toilet improves it. And all the participants in the discussion (including the Daily Mail) discuss the toilet with some irony. feel
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 31 December 2019 15: 58
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          or like every anti-adviser had no conscience and no?

          Please at the party committee! Let them bawdy at a party meeting ..
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 31 December 2019 17: 36
            -2
            Now the party committees of United Russia, he was already given a prize for comment.
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 January 2020 14: 12
              +2
              Quote: Gardamir
              Now the party committees of United Russia, he was already given a prize for comment.

              Dear Gardamir, if without emotion at the level - “we could, but you can do it”? That is your position “everything is bad, they laughed at us, it is possible without a restroom in the tank”, as well as your “opponents”, more than far-fetched! The truth in the middle! At a minimum, the ability to be under armor for a longer time, for the crew is not even a blessing, but a vital necessity. With the development of the range of weapons, the chance to lose a fighter who is confident in his invulnerability has gone down the drain is at least stupid and expensive! I think who wears epaulettes can "pee" and make a boot, and "ka-ka" in the box! But it’s better under armor and so that it doesn’t smell !!! There is another, not unimportant factor. Two crew members can do this and find, and therefore on the march !!
              Regards, Kote!
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 1 January 2020 14: 40
                -1
                The truth in the middle!
                Here you are right, but ... First, let it be the most powerful tank, with the strongest armor, and there is also a toilet, but it's great. As I understood from the discussions, the only advantage is the toilet.
                1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 January 2020 14: 54
                  +2
                  Dear Gardamir! As a service person I will say one thing - they do not choose a place and conditions of service. Therefore, it is better with a toilet than without!
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 December 2019 08: 22
    +6
    Are they serious? Is that why "Armata" "made" them all? Well, yes, of course it is important to go to the pot in battle without leaving the tank ... But the tank will not have enough fuel or ammunition for a battle for many hours. request
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 31 December 2019 08: 40
      0
      And he will be ambushed for several days. This is where the toilet comes in handy.
      1. qQQQ
        qQQQ 31 December 2019 09: 29
        +8
        Quote: ltc35
        And he will be ambushed for several days. This is where the toilet comes in handy.

        Laughter, laughter, but I had a real case, on shooting (Shilka) he urged his partner to go, though for little need, you can’t get out - on the position, you don’t have the strength, the army winter mittens lay well, the result is understandable, though he had a little difficulty with throwing through an ajar hatch without knotted mittens, here the result can also be imagined. So the toilet, it’s very important - there are different cases.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 31 December 2019 15: 47
        +1
        Quote: ltc35
        And he will be ambushed for several days. This is where the toilet comes in handy.

        Can you give examples when a tank, like a sniper, stood in ambush for a week? Art. Lieutenant Kolobanov for some reason did not complain about the lack of a push in KV-1 ....
        1. ltc35
          ltc35 1 January 2020 10: 37
          +1
          But I believe that if he had been there, he obviously did not interfere.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 1 January 2020 10: 43
            +2
            You still do not understand my idea ...
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 31 December 2019 08: 43
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Is that why "Armata" "made" them all?

      So if sclerosis does not confuse me, it was the British who invented the toilet. And then we went around them at the bend. laughing
      1. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir 31 December 2019 08: 53
        +8
        does not confuse ... the name stuck on production, the company "Unitas"
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 31 December 2019 08: 56
          0
          Quote: d ^ Amir
          the name stuck on production, the company "Unitas"

          Somehow I never wondered why the toilet is so called. request
      2. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 31 December 2019 09: 56
        0
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        So if sclerosis does not confuse me, it was the British who invented the toilet

        The British love to steal. Roman toilets remember. You sit on the marble and have a philosophical debate ...
        And similar objects were excavated in Mycenae and in Urata.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 31 December 2019 10: 01
          +1
          Quote: Oo sarcasm
          Roman toilets remember.

          They had simple holes in marble. And the British came up with something more modern, flushed, and I hope, with a water seal, although I’m not sure about it.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 31 December 2019 15: 55
            +1
            Volodya. the first sewerage in the world appeared in ancient Rome, and you are talking about some kind of water lock. Despite the fact that in enlightened Europe even in the 19th century they went for themselves ...
            1. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 1 January 2020 00: 17
              +1
              the first sewerage in the world appeared in ancient Rome
              The first sewer appeared in Mohenjo-Daro, that is, in the Harappan civilization almost 2 thousand years before the Roman one.
          2. Avior
            Avior 1 January 2020 23: 21
            +1
            A water seal for the toilet was patented by the Englishman Alexander Cummings In 1775
        2. cost
          cost 31 December 2019 14: 14
          +1
          The first toilets are Crete
    3. Bykov.
      Bykov. 31 December 2019 08: 52
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Are they serious? Is that why "Armata" "made" them all? Well, yes, of course it is important to go to the pot in battle without leaving the tank ... But the tank will not have enough fuel or ammunition for a battle for many hours. request

      This is the way the shave resembles our success with the T-14, which is why he is trying to unsuccessfully scale his teeth. With envy, his jaw clenched, so he put his nose in the toilet first thing and stuck it. Indeed, it’s impossible not to write that the Russian tank is the best that is currently in the world. From this Naglosvk journalism toilet bowls and sniffs.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 31 December 2019 10: 02
        +3
        Quote: Bulls.
        With envy, his jaw clenched, so he put his nose in the toilet first thing and stuck it.

        Well, when our pilots found a push on the A / B-20, they were quite surprised. After all, on the IL-4 it was sometimes necessary to go to ease.
        Tu-95 and Tu-160 also acquired the M index when toilets appeared during modernization. And if the women are in a carriage?
        Upgrade to MF!
        1. Robertocalos
          Robertocalos 1 January 2020 19: 07
          -1
          Which forced? In the pants put all the cases.
    4. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 31 December 2019 09: 16
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Are they serious? Is that why "Armata" "made" them all? Well, yes, of course it is important to go to the pot in battle without leaving the tank ...

      Eugene! hi
      It seems to me that this is exactly the idea that the experts from the Daily Mail were intended to put into the heads of their readers. Type: a £ 3m tank with a flush toilet. And this is all that the Russians are capable of, who are so stupid that they cannot leave the tank to cope with their natural needs, like all normal people. The main performance characteristics are mentioned in passing, but not a word about the power of the gun, about the protection of the crew in an armored capsule, about the latest generation of KAZ, etc. etc. All the superiority of our tank is reduced to the presence of a toilet bowl.
      That’s my personal impression of the article.
      1. Nick
        Nick 31 December 2019 10: 00
        +2
        Quote: Polite Elk
        It seems to me that this is exactly the idea that the experts from the Daily Mail were intended to put into the heads of their readers. Type: a £ 3m tank with a flush toilet. And this is all that the Russians are capable of, who are so stupid that they cannot leave the tank to cope with their natural needs,

        Honestly, sometimes you regret that there is no toilet in the car, especially when the third hour in traffic ... feel
        Quote: Polite Elk

        And this is all that the Russians are capable of, who are so stupid that they can’t leave the tank to cope with their natural needs, like all normal people.

        Normal people do not cope with the need of people soldier
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 31 December 2019 10: 16
          +1
          Quote: Nick
          Honestly, sometimes you regret that there is no toilet in the car, especially when the third hour in traffic ...

          We must not forget "on the track" ... wink
          Quote: Nick
          Normal people do not cope with the need of people

          And where? Is it really only in the tank? wassat
          No, the toilet in the tank is incredible. This is me seriously. But British authors deliberately did not say about other advantages of the car.
          1. Nick
            Nick 31 December 2019 11: 04
            +1
            Quote: Polite Elk
            We must not forget "on the track" ...

            Tracks are sometimes long.
            Quote: Polite Elk
            Normal people do not cope with the need of people

            And where? Is it really only in the tank?

            There are places designed specifically for this. Even in some tanks, as it turned out.
            Quote: Polite Elk
            No, the toilet in the tank is incredible. This is me seriously. But British authors deliberately did not say about other advantages of the car.

            You need to understand that everything else, according to the British themselves, is not worse on their machines. hi
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 31 December 2019 11: 22
              +1
              Quote: Nick
              You need to understand that everything else, according to the British themselves, is not worse on their machines.

              This is precisely the "main idea of ​​the work". In addition to the side toilet, the Russian tank has no particular advantages.
              1. Nick
                Nick 31 December 2019 11: 24
                0
                Quote: Polite Elk
                This is precisely the "main idea of ​​the work". In addition to the side toilet, the Russian tank has no particular advantages.

                Apparently so.
    5. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 31 December 2019 17: 05
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Are they serious?


      Of course. Toilets really are.

      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Is that why "Armata" "made" them all?


      No. Read the article, there is still a lot of things mentioned.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 December 2019 08: 23
    +4
    And as MK previously reported
    A toilet was built into the Armata tank
    07.03.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX The designers of the Armata tank reported that they had solved the problem of the lack of a number of household amenities in the armored vehicle, where the crew, like in other tanks, had to do without a bathroom for a long time.

    As explained in the Ural Design Bureau of Transport Engineering, tanks, as a rule, do not have the ability for the crew to relieve their natural needs, but “the problem was solved only in vehicles on the Armata platform.

    It is indicated that the "Armata" was originally created for the performance of long-term combat missions, in connection with which the tank was equipped with a toilet.

    Sounds unusual.
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 31 December 2019 09: 42
      +1
      in tanks, as a rule, there is no opportunity for the crew to relieve their natural needs, but "the problem was solved only in vehicles on the Armata platform."

      The BMD-4 also had dry closets. I don’t know how on production cars, but there was such an opportunity. So tankers are not the first to have improved comfort.
      1. Elturisto
        Elturisto 31 December 2019 10: 48
        +3
        First appeared on the BMP-3.
  5. Victor_B
    Victor_B 31 December 2019 08: 24
    0
    No, well, walk like a walk!
    I need a shower or bath!
    And this ... to see everyone!
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 31 December 2019 08: 45
      -1
      Quote: Victor_B
      And this ... to see everyone!

      A camera with a red film? belay
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 31 December 2019 09: 40
      +1
      Quote: Victor_B
      No, well, walk like a walk!
      I need a shower or bath!

      Sauna! And with a separate exit, so that you can jump into a snowdrift! Let the adversary die of envy
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 31 December 2019 10: 13
        +4
        Sauna! And with a separate exit, so that you can jump into a snowdrift! ... why the city fence, buy a couple of dozen merkav. they have inside a tavern resembles. and there is a place to oversleep and something else. sometime. and the ramp in the stern, ... in short, the armata of the road comes out .... well, how so .........
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 31 December 2019 10: 20
      +15
      Quote: Victor_B
      No, well, walk like a walk!
      I need a shower or bath!
      And this ... to see everyone!

      In the New Year, in secret, you can see what's inside wink

  6. Kleber
    Kleber 31 December 2019 08: 38
    +2
    The British, as always, in their repertoire. The toilet is everything! Surely and put in a fighter toilet. They generally get fucked up by this. It is remembered that two British sailors complained to the Queen of England that porn films were not well downloaded on the submarine. Cedmi is right, Britain has no military future.
  7. pru-pavel
    pru-pavel 31 December 2019 08: 38
    -2
    If you still install the installation of a complete waste treatment with a completely closed cycle of organics and the regeneration of drinking water. That will be just a bomb. And the greens will be silent. I’m not even talking about the battery life
  8. mark1
    mark1 31 December 2019 08: 42
    +3
    It’s scary to imagine a direct hit in the toilet cubicle ... we need special reflective curtains!
    In order to reduce the reserved volume, I propose to equip the crew jobs with multi-functional seats - so to speak, two in one ...
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 31 December 2019 09: 45
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      In order to reduce the reserved volume, I propose to equip the crew jobs with multi-functional seats - so to speak, two in one ...
      A multifunctional chair is an idea, with automatic trouble! The tanker will save valuable time. He recovered immediately on the spot, and then - to carry out a combat mission.
    2. Nick
      Nick 31 December 2019 10: 03
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      It’s scary to imagine a direct hit in the toilet cubicle ... we need special reflective curtains!
      In order to reduce the reserved volume, I propose to equip the crew jobs with multi-functional seats - so to speak, two in one ...

      I suggest just using diapers of increased power. Anything cheaper winked
  9. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 31 December 2019 08: 44
    +1
    I am simply amazed at the presence of an advanced toilet on board ... I remember in the greenhouses they simply chopped holes in the floor to spoil ... that's all. And here the technology is really awesome and probably cooler than on the ISS and the whole enlightened world is crying directly from powerless delight. Is a bidet provided in the outhouse? Is the author joking or, in all seriousness, dumped this achievement? C'mon, he just laughed before the holiday ...
  10. HAM
    HAM 31 December 2019 08: 46
    +3
    What a grief, but in "Rolls Royce" there is no toilet ... urgently add.
  11. PIXY_117
    PIXY_117 31 December 2019 08: 54
    -4
    The main topic is "toilet" ... News on VO which we deserve.
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 31 December 2019 09: 02
      +2
      Quote: PIXY_117
      The main topic is "toilet" ... News on VO which we deserve.

      And here in the? Become is the product of deep ANALYSIS of the tank from the British printed brehunka "Daily Mail".
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    2. Maks1995
      Maks1995 31 December 2019 09: 03
      +1
      I recall that ours always looked closely at the western toilets.

      When discussing aircraft carriers or the ISS, this is an important topic.
      And here - finally !!!! Distilled !!!
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 31 December 2019 13: 32
        0
        Stole in ukrov with their barges and installed on Armata)))
    3. Kleber
      Kleber 31 December 2019 09: 03
      0
      So the toilet is not in the cafe, but in the tank.
    4. engineer74
      engineer74 31 December 2019 09: 56
      +1
      Quote: PIXY_117
      The main topic is "toilet" ... News on VO which we deserve.

      Happy New Year.... recourse
  12. Bykov.
    Bykov. 31 December 2019 08: 57
    +1
    Envy! Plain little British envy.
    Instead of discussing, describing and comparing the performance characteristics of our tank, and writing about the obvious superiority of the T-14 over the "civilized" tanks, the scribbler tries to clumsily ironic about living conditions. The usual British envious skin.
  13. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 31 December 2019 08: 59
    +4
    The comfort of the crew greatly affects its effectiveness!
    In general, the T-14 is very pleasing in comparison with the old T's. Both the comfort and the survival rate of the crew have risen very much, and this cannot but rejoice, especially the guys who will serve on these machines.
    Finally, we left the old school of tank building. Designers are handsome!
  14. Hermit21
    Hermit21 31 December 2019 10: 05
    0
    The sarcasm and humor of some of the above are not very clear. It’s not a secret that in TTZ some 36-48 hours of no-show relatively comfortable stay of the crew and the landing force in radioactive areas are prescribed for some new lines of armored vehicles
  15. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 31 December 2019 10: 10
    0
    The funniest thing I read on New Year's Eve.
  16. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 31 December 2019 10: 12
    0
    Is there a toilet in the T-14? Maybe a dry closet?
    1. Romka
      Romka 31 December 2019 14: 56
      +1
      Is there a T-14? Or just a project that doesn’t give birth?
  17. Naz
    Naz 31 December 2019 10: 13
    +2
    "there are no analogues in the world" - this phrase strains me every time.
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    1. 8200
      8200 31 December 2019 11: 12
      +2
      In Merkava-4 there is a removable bathroom, which is installed for the duration of long operations
  19. Elturisto
    Elturisto 31 December 2019 10: 51
    0
    Clowns. Now the enemies will be wet in the outhouse, only in the tank ...
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 31 December 2019 10: 57
    0
    Laughter, laughter, but the question is serious, especially on a long march.
  21. vasev
    vasev 31 December 2019 11: 07
    -1
    So that's where the toilets with the crest of armored boats attached!
    1. ASASHOKA
      ASASHOKA 31 December 2019 16: 05
      +1
      Weak with humor?
  22. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 31 December 2019 11: 20
    +5
    Something they forgot to compare with Merkava.
    There is a toilet for many years. And a coffee machine. And even a bed can be put in the aisle if you remove one row of shelving with shells. Merkava was placed in the late 90s - early 00s in ambushes on the Lebanese border. With the engine off. And the crew did not leave the tank for a week.
    At night, they sometimes shot with a single projectile shell a group of Hezbollon or Amal militants approaching the border.
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      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 31 December 2019 12: 54
        +3
        Not so simple ... between the shelves with shells - a narrow passage.
        There may squat 2-3 infantrymen with equipment.
        If you remove part of the shells, more space. A bed breaks in.
        When a tank was being converted into a "combat ambulance" in Lebanon, all the shells were removed from the back, leaving only the "first stage" in the drum in the tower. Then there were two beds and a place for a doctor and a paramedic.
  23. bar
    bar 31 December 2019 11: 28
    +1
    Neither American nor British tanks have fully functioning “on-board toilets”, the Daily Mail is sad.

    Why are there tanks, striped, and go to the ISS in diapers. How they flew to the moon is incomprehensible to the mind. laughing
  24. 113262a
    113262a 31 December 2019 11: 30
    -2
    Did not impress! I would be impressed with a transparent armor, a sight with a good variable magnification and a good DOMESTIC thermal imager to the whole crew! Good stove and condo in the summer. For in winter the armor freezes, and in the summer it glows! Tolchek - on the last place in the rating of hotelok!
  25. Strashila
    Strashila 31 December 2019 11: 50
    0
    The question is how much all these amenities are explosion proof.
  26. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 31 December 2019 12: 35
    +2
    In peacetime, only those who have never seen it rejoice at the presence of a push in technology.

    This is usually a small bucket, the seat of which is located under one of the crew or landing seats. There is no separate room, even meter per meter, inside the tank.

    Separately, it is worth mentioning that the tightness of the lid of this bucket, at best, is present only at the reception. And the remaining 30 years of service ...


    In general, the only case when it is more pleasant to go to this push than to pants is when the radiation situation is overboard incompatible with life.
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 31 December 2019 19: 11
      +1
      Work sniper on the position of the tank can also interfere.
      1. Sancho_SP
        Sancho_SP 31 December 2019 21: 44
        -1
        The tank itself is not in the open field. Nearby there are infantry, equipment, supplies. The presence of a push in the tank will have little effect on the reaction of the unit. In the event of a sniper, either the sniper will be eliminated or the position will be changed.
        1. 3danimal
          3danimal 1 January 2020 02: 43
          +1
          There are conflicts of low intensity.
          1. Sancho_SP
            Sancho_SP 1 January 2020 12: 25
            -1
            Where they sit in silence for weeks, and something happens suddenly. And there certainly no one will use the ersatz parashes.
  27. Incognito777
    Incognito777 31 December 2019 12: 38
    +2
    The Western press admires the modern Russian tank, which, as it turns out, has no analogues in the world in terms of comfort.

    No tank - no analogues ..
    When they enter the armed forces, then it will be possible to talk and something .. but to drive along the Red Square in the parade is unnecessary comfort and is not required ..
  28. Alex_You
    Alex_You 31 December 2019 12: 48
    -4
    So this development is still brought to mind?
  29. Flatter
    Flatter 31 December 2019 12: 51
    +2
    The toilet in it is simply necessary for parades. Not everyone can withstand several hours in the middle of streets and avenues and crowds.
  30. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 31 December 2019 12: 56
    +3
    Ours discuss the tank itself, equipment, ammunition, penetration, body kit.
    The British are discussing the toilet.

    All you need to know))
    Englishwoman crap))
    1. Romka
      Romka 31 December 2019 14: 54
      +1
      Just the same, we are discussing. And what else is there to discuss?
  31. Campanella
    Campanella 31 December 2019 13: 30
    0
    Here the life-giving market brings to what!))) A tank with a jacuzzi, a toilet and girls .. I wonder what estimated time of life the Ministry of Defense assigns him?
  32. Campanella
    Campanella 31 December 2019 13: 34
    0
    A gift for those warriors who did not have time to go to the outhouse at home. As I understand it, it’s difficult to get out of Almaty into freedom))) I had to compose a toilet.
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 31 December 2019 19: 13
      +1
      Sniper so as not to please once again.
  33. Whisper
    Whisper 31 December 2019 13: 36
    0
    Interestingly, the toilet issue was raised only now, although the question is interesting. While in the West they did not react, no one was about the toilet. Maybe a fake?
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  35. fa2998
    fa2998 31 December 2019 15: 21
    0
    Quote: Chaldon48
    The next generation tank will have a shower room and a kitchen, and possibly a separate cabin for the commander.

    It is terrible to think how long its construction will take. If this one has been tormented for a long time, that (with a cabin) will stretch for 25 years. lol hi
  36. kig
    kig 31 December 2019 15: 30
    0
    Well, damn it, they sold another military secret. Moreover, absolutely free of charge, that is, for nothing. Starting from the new year, all of NATO will rush to re-equip ... re-equip ... in short, remodel its tanks. Although no - this is not a sale of military secrets, this is a brilliant move. Here it will be possible to take them without pants.
  37. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 31 December 2019 15: 45
    +1
    Yes !!! The toilet is above all!))) There is nothing more important in the tank!
    There is no doubt that the toilet is important, but we, in Russia, are not able to expose its presence as the most important quality of the tank. laughing
  38. ASASHOKA
    ASASHOKA 31 December 2019 15: 54
    0
    The new Russian tank, which costs as much as three million pounds, the British newspaper Daily Mail notes, is the first tank in the world equipped with a toilet (you can even flush it). And if so, the Russian soldiers no longer need, as before, to go "in boxes of ammunition."

    Well, no words))). Firstly, the price of the first product specially (for our own) is left in the amount of 246 Russian rubles (this is translated at the exchange rate), although we have already greatly reduced it, since they also introduced new technologies and replaced what was too expensive, and an adversary like the Russians are wasting, and you regret the budget for our army ... Secondly, well, they can’t have no toilet and poop ... and rather, rather lower the Russians hated ... Do not know that our soldier will not drag the box into the bushes for emptying into it, goofs ...))). Themselves, probably, ran into the box, and the projection is on us. Therefore, "The Daily Mail is sad." Introduce "new technologies" or, if you don't have brains, buy "fully functioning" onboard toilets "from the Russians.
  39. Pacifist with AK
    Pacifist with AK 31 December 2019 18: 12
    0
    The secret of "Armata" is revealed! Photo of the CIA)))))
  40. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 31 December 2019 18: 37
    +1
    The toilet as in the Russian Railways car is blocked in sanitary zones.
  41. Talgat 148
    Talgat 148 31 December 2019 19: 45
    +1
    In BMP-3, a push has been provided since the days of the USSR!
  42. Talgat 148
    Talgat 148 31 December 2019 19: 51
    +1

    push in Armata
  43. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 31 December 2019 20: 47
    0
    Toilet in the tank "trifle", but nice ... good still do not forget the "cleaning material" yes
  44. Radikal
    Radikal 31 December 2019 21: 38
    +1
    Quote: Rich
    Stop measuring military IDs. It's not about anything. About six months after my retirement, I was summoned to the military registration and enlistment office and entered the rank of "senior sergeant" on my military ID. When I asked why is so weak. I was reasonably answered - by the age of 50, they could go to the training camp at least once laughing Moreover, this same ticket I last saw in 1981, when a sergeant enlisted as a conscript in VPPPKU.
    .... named after K.E. Voroshilov? wink hi
  45. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 1 January 2020 08: 55
    0
    “In addition to the toilet, the tank is equipped, the newspaper continues, with" state-of-the-art equipment, "including a 125mm smoothbore cannon, heavy-duty armor, software to lock onto targets, and two machine guns. The speed of the Russian tank is over fifty miles per hour. "
    :) I almost forgot to tell about the essence ...
  46. gorunov
    gorunov 1 January 2020 08: 57
    0
    So you can tear the whole war)
  47. kenig1
    kenig1 1 January 2020 09: 37
    0
    The main thing in the tank is not to crap one's pants.
  48. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 1 January 2020 12: 01
    0
    Here it is, the key to increasing export supplies. Put wherever possible closets, and revenue will immediately go up.
  49. Robertocalos
    Robertocalos 1 January 2020 16: 07
    0
    What is this nonsense ?! In the Room, the densest layout of the fighting compartment, this is not Merkava. Three tankers are sitting in an armored capsule crying to their shoulders, as in the cockpit of a sports car. The toilet there can only be mounted in a chair.
  50. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 1 January 2020 17: 16
    0
    Quote: Popuas
    Having a restroom in the modern world

    Much. The importance of this device can only be assessed if it is not available. You did not live in apartments where there is one toilet for 20 residents, and you need to take the LIVING queue there in the morning, in particular. Or put on boots and run outside to sit in a drawer in the eagle pose. In winter, at minus 30, it's fun. Especially for women. So, your irony here is from ......