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Zhirinovsky proposed amending the Constitution regarding the post of president

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The leader of the LDPR faction in the State Duma, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, proposed amending the Russian Constitution in order to “offload” the country's president from the excessive burden of duties. He stated this in his Telegram channel.


Now the Constitution states that the President of the Russian Federation does not have the right to fulfill his duties for more than two consecutive terms. But if there was a break between them, then he can run for the third and fourth time. Vladimir Volfovich suggested removing the word “in a row” from this wording.

In fact, Zhirinovsky in this situation will repeat the same thing that Putin himself said during a press conference. Initially, such an initiative belonged to the current president of the country. At the same time, he noted that such a decision does not need to be rushed, since it needs to be carefully considered.

In addition, Zhirinovsky believes that the president has too many responsibilities. Therefore, in order to “unload” him, he proposes to introduce the post of vice president, on whose shoulders to shift part of the presidential duties. He believes that the power functions performed by the country's leader today should be distributed between him, his deputy and the head of government. IN stories The country already had a period when the position of vice president existed in the power structure.

Earlier, Vladimir Zhirinovsky put forward an initiative to reduce the presidential term in Russia to five years.
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  1. RUSS
    RUSS 29 December 2019 11: 15
    +11
    They are testing the soil
    1. figwam
      figwam 29 December 2019 11: 19
      +19
      He believes that the power functions performed by the country's leader today should be distributed between him, his deputy and the head of government.

      Well, there was a place for Lukashenko.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 29 December 2019 11: 52
        +23
        Zhirinovsky would not get involved in these matters - i.e. in appointing yourself vice president! Old Zhirik is already for the vice-president of Russia. And his son in the United States should sunbathe on "business trips" less.

        And I don't even want to talk about expanding the powers of the same Medvedev in the form of assigning him some of the functions of the President of the Russian Federation! As you look at his "market" financial and economic monetarist bloc in the government of the Russian Federation with the IMF policy - and it becomes sickening!
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 29 December 2019 12: 16
          +19
          In addition, Zhirinovsky believes that the president has too many responsibilities. Therefore, in order to “unload” him, he proposes to introduce the post of vice president, on whose shoulders shift part of the presidential duties. He believes that the power functions performed by the country's leader today should be distributed between him, his deputy and the head of government.

          All this is in fact and is called DUAL AUTHORITY in the country. And for a specific person! For whom exactly? That is the question! And why and to whom does it still need?

          In 1917, this dual power already led to the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia and to a civil war! Only the Bolsheviks then barely managed the country - with territorial losses (!) - to put together!
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 29 December 2019 15: 10
            +3
            On the question of changing the Constitution of the Russian Federation, one thing should be noted. Namely.

            In Soviet times, the study of political history was mainly reduced to the study of the politics of SEPARATE national states and at the state-national level between them. On the existence in the world in the globalist sense of the so-called. There were usually no "supranational structures", except for the creation and liquidation of the proletarian Cominterns. - and nothing more.
            At the same time, at home - i.e. on an unofficial level, there were rumors about the alleged existence in the world of the so-called. "world government".

            In other words, in the very system of political education of students of the USSR in Soviet public education, the study of systems of other globalist supranational structures, except for the Cominterns, was categorically excluded - rejected. And that was wrong.
            Therefore, the uninitiated population of the USSR and the majority of the CPSU members surrendered their country and socialist system to the West and Western globalists almost without a fight.

            In this regard, when the United States - agents of the CIA - wrote their pro-American Constitution of the Russian Federation for Russia and adopted it in our country, the question arises. Whose interests in the West are globally reflected in the Constitution of the Russian Federation? And who exactly in the power of the Russian Federation represents their interests administratively colonial?

            In the struggle between themselves in the form of supranational globalist structures, the Rothschild clan (purely financial clan) and the Rockefeller clan (production and financial clan) were noticed.

            Moreover, while in Ukraine it is clear that the purely Rothschild clan reigns in Ukraine, then in the Russian Federation there is a question - which person in power is exactly what kind of American clan represents? And why the question arises of a split power of the president of the Russian Federation?

            Rothschild counterattack. Andrey Fursov. • Feb 13 2019 year
            1. Win1945
              Win1945 30 December 2019 08: 40
              -3
              Put on the foil hat.
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 29 December 2019 19: 06
            +3
            Quote: Tatiana
            ....... All this is in fact and is called DUAL AUTHORITY in the country. And for a specific person! For whom exactly? That is the question! And why and to whom does it still need?
            In 1917, this dual power already led to the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia and to a civil war! Only the Bolsheviks then barely managed the country - with territorial losses (!) - to put together!

            You already wrote something like this before, Tatyana love Your forecasts of that and look come true. Your assessment of the situation is ---- true in this way. good
        2. vladcub
          vladcub 29 December 2019 17: 01
          +1
          Tatyana, and who told you that Zhirinovsky will be vice president? If you introduce this post, then there will be a lot of people wishing
      2. Vyacheslav Viktorovich
        Vyacheslav Viktorovich 29 December 2019 12: 24
        +14
        Quote: figvam
        Well, there was a place for Lukashenko.

        Rather, with Lukashenko, the solution to the problem of 2024 (unification - a new country - the presidential term counter is reset to zero) did not come out, the old man did not want to. Therefore, they want to make the presidential post nominal and transfer Putin to the prime ministers with full authority, but without any restrictions on the time of stay.
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 29 December 2019 12: 59
          +4
          Does Luka need this? He understands that for the successful leadership of Russia, it is necessary first of all to create a semblance of the Gulag to restore at least some kind of justice in society, and there are already a lot of its candidates to populate.
          1. Robertocalos
            Robertocalos 29 December 2019 14: 51
            +1
            Old Man will cope with this without straining.
        2. figwam
          figwam 29 December 2019 15: 58
          +4
          Quote: Vyacheslav Viktorovich
          Rather, with Lukashenko the solution to the problem of 2024

          Well, what kind of 2024, when a few days ago Zyuganov put forward a proposal for an early presidential election, and they prompted him from above.
        3. vladcub
          vladcub 29 December 2019 17: 14
          +3
          Vyacheslav Viktorovich, I doubt very much that this will happen: in Minsk and Moscow, elites have already formed that are NOT INTERESTED in the association
          1. shtatsov
            shtatsov 30 December 2019 05: 57
            +1
            Elites in Minsk may have no choice! Everything seems to be sad there, and the local elites will be blown away. The people cannot over tighten the nuts!
            1. vladcub
              vladcub 30 December 2019 14: 15
              +1
              Are you saying there will be an explosion? I doubt: we did not have an "explosion", but what makes Belarus different from us.
          2. Vyacheslav Viktorovich
            Vyacheslav Viktorovich 30 December 2019 06: 20
            0
            So I wrote about this exactly - the option with unification did not come out. Therefore, they are looking for other ways to leave Putin in power, in this case, through a change in the constitution. It may not be as solemn as through unification, but it’s okay, and so it will work. But Lukashenko will remain as he was, and Belarus will remain as he was.
            1. vladcub
              vladcub 30 December 2019 14: 18
              0
              We will wait and see.
      3. Ros 56
        Ros 56 29 December 2019 13: 00
        0
        Apparently you are thinking in the right direction. Time will tell, because we do not have comprehensive information.
    2. Finches
      Finches 29 December 2019 11: 23
      +4
      Everyone has long understood that the liberal-bourgeois system of government, which is effective in the West in Russia, does not really work - either an absolute monarch or an absolute general secretary is needed! And all these elections are good for Luxembourg or for the United States! The Empire must have an Emperor! Bad, good - this is for historians in the future, but the Empire must have an Emperor!
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 29 December 2019 11: 54
        +27
        Quote: Finches
        Everyone has long understood that a liberal-bourgeois system of government that is effective in the West in Russia does not really work

        All are adequate citizens .. in the government, I'm afraid they did not understand this .. and they will not understand, there is no goal to make a prosperous state with a social orientation, the goal is to create an "elite" that could enrich itself and control slaves ..
        The Empire must have an Emperor! Bad, good - this is for historians in the future, but the Empire must have an Emperor!

        But before the empire should have a sense of existence, in today's paradigm, the empire cannot take place ..
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 29 December 2019 12: 16
        -2
        Quote: Finches
        Everyone has long understood that the liberal-bourgeois system of government, which is effective in the West in Russia, does not really work - either an absolute monarch or an absolute general secretary is needed! And all these elections are good for Luxembourg or for the United States! The Empire must have an Emperor! Bad, good - this is for historians in the future, but the Empire must have an Emperor!

        You throw these imperial little things, in the courtyard of the 21st century, and even more so, modern Russia does not pull the empire. Although it’s hard for you to get rid of leaderism that has been instilled in us for a hundred years, but it is necessary.
        1. Finches
          Finches 29 December 2019 12: 39
          +14
          Why a hundred? We have been living under liberal bourgeois democracy for only 28 years - do you like it? Not for me! I was better with the leaders! You know more comfortable ...
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 29 December 2019 12: 43
            -11
            Quote: Finches
            Why a hundred

            Right after 1917
          2. RUSS
            RUSS 29 December 2019 12: 44
            -13
            Quote: Finches
            I was better with the leaders! You know more comfortable ...

            You live in the past, it’s normal at your age
            1. Finches
              Finches 29 December 2019 12: 51
              +8
              Are you a young pink-cheeked male - the whole world through the prism of a gadget? laughing
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 29 December 2019 13: 14
                0
                Quote: Finches
                And you are a young, pink-cheeked male -

                I already have children far from rosy cheeks.
                Quote: Finches
                the whole world through the prism of a gadget?

                Thanks to "bourgeois" gadgets and the Internet, we have the opportunity to communicate here.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 29 December 2019 15: 53
                  +18
                  I tell the students about this, starting that Popov invented radio here, and in the West Marconi, we have a theorem for converting an analog signal into a digital one is called the Kotelnikov theorem, but in the West they write it like Nyquist-Shannon ... Kotelnikov came to digital at the beginning 30s, by the way. And we invented the mobile phone 10 years earlier than the Americans ... So you are there too - "bourgeois", "bourgeois" .... - patented and massively launched for sale! No more! But we got a concrete lag with the collapse of the USSR and now we will never do our own in a single economic space of capitalism for one simple reason - it is not economically profitable! It's easier to buy a patent than to invest in science! But Stalin understood this, that is why enormous funds were invested in science ... That is why a statesman-master is needed - because the historical role of Russia is to be an Empire! Red, green ... - not so important! In the meantime, we are an ordinary market for cheap labor and rich hydrocarbon deposits, etc. All our ambitions are a glorious past, and in the modern world we are nobody and can not be called! And this will continue until the people understand the obvious thing - Russia is considered only when it is an Empire!
                  1. RUSS
                    RUSS 29 December 2019 16: 47
                    -5
                    Quote: Finches
                    All our ambitions are a glorious past, and in the modern world we are nobody and there is no way to call us!

                    Exceptionally so!
                  2. vladcub
                    vladcub 29 December 2019 17: 24
                    +2
                    I agree with you: in Russia without the Emperor, and what is his name is not important
                  3. Win1945
                    Win1945 30 December 2019 08: 43
                    +1
                    you need a king and not a "state owner" to do everything for you.
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 30 December 2019 19: 09
                      +2
                      Many kings did something for the people - they already worked hard, poor fellow! laughing

                      The Emperor, Tsar, General Secretary is the sacred core of Russian statehood !!!
          3. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 13: 47
            -12
            The leader needs a herd. Unfortunately, we do not have bourgeois democracy. Our wild capitalism has nothing to do with bourgeois democracy. Although he is better than the era of leaders.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 29
              +10
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              The leader needs a herd.

              don't be afraid that it will turn out so ...
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 16: 34
                +2
                And so it happened in 1991.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 29 December 2019 12: 30
        +18
        Quote: Finches
        Bad, good - this is for historians in the future, but the Empire must have an Emperor!

        Nicholas II is a bad emperor, with him the collapse of the Russian Empire. He paid for it with his life and the life of his family. And how many died in the Grazhdun war?
        We always hope for the best, but often our desires do not coincide with the realities that have arisen. Therefore, we will quickly feel "good or bad" on our own skin.
        That's just nothing can be changed
        1. Finches
          Finches 29 December 2019 12: 39
          -2
          So what is the difference - if there is no difference? laughing
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 21
            +6
            Quote: Finches
            So what is the difference - if there is no difference?

            the difference is exactly in your proposal ...
            Quote: Finches
            The Empire must have an Emperor!

            you offer no alternative hi
            I want to. so that everything is the choice and the real one. And then we will survive, children and grandchildren live, from the death of one leader to the death of his successor, while the country is shaking and it is losing something
    3. Siberia 75
      Siberia 75 29 December 2019 11: 25
      +22
      No need to write about Zhirinovsky in VO. This is a little bit embarrassing. Then what, Buzova’s tweets will begin to discuss.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 29 December 2019 11: 41
        +14
        Quote: Siberia 75
        No need to write about Zhirinovsky in VO.

        I agree, the populist is cheap. He says everything is correct, but in the Duma he votes in a completely different way.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 29 December 2019 12: 31
        +18
        Quote: Siberia 75
        No need to write about Zhirinovsky in VO.

        It's not about Zhirinovsky. but in what he says. In a way, he is the mouthpiece through which the plans and ideas of some gentlemen are proclaimed.
      3. Robertocalos
        Robertocalos 29 December 2019 14: 54
        +2
        What is this "not necessary"? Zhirik has been using a weather vane for 20 years already. Any of his statements on important topics begins in the Presidential Administration. Then the ZYU will say that it's time to change the Constitution, then they will announce to us that a consensus has been reached in society, then the State Duma will quickly approve it. Nobody will ask the people, the people in our country are not subject to resolve such issues.
        1. Siberia 75
          Siberia 75 29 December 2019 15: 38
          +2
          Quote: Robertocalos
          no one will ask the people, the people in our country are not subjective to resolve such issues.

          The people are not "subject" anywhere, as you put it, for sir, is subject to influence and in the mass is insane.
          I would not want people whom I know - neighbors, colleagues, acquaintances, to have an influence on decision-making at the "State" level
          PS Even the overwhelming majority of VO visitors should in no case be allowed to resolve issues above the "yard-micro district" location (including me) yes
          1. Robertocalos
            Robertocalos 29 December 2019 16: 14
            0
            There is a grain of sanity. But decisions need to be made and done with responsibility. Then 4 levels of deputies should be - district - city - region - federation. Each consists of members of previous levels. And the electoral college of the president of the most respected people is proportional to the population of the subjects.
          2. WIKI
            WIKI 29 December 2019 16: 26
            +2
            Quote: Siberia 75
            The people are not "subject" anywhere, as you put it, for sir, is subject to influence and in the mass is insane.
            I would not want people whom I know - neighbors, colleagues, acquaintances, to have an influence on decision-making at the "State" level

            You do not find that "dullness", "not cleverness" and exposure to influence, this is the merit of this particular state.
            1. Siberia 75
              Siberia 75 29 December 2019 16: 38
              0
              Quote: WIKI
              that "dullness", "not cleverness" and susceptibility to influence is the merit of this particular state.

              Do you think that in other countries it is different? In Ukraine, the USA, the Baltic states, etc.
              1. WIKI
                WIKI 29 December 2019 18: 54
                +2
                If we consider "dullness" in the category of people's understanding of political and social processes within the country, then the merit of our state propaganda in this is undoubted. Coverage of only certain topics, with certain experts leads to the appearance of "one-sided" and "gray" people who receive information in this form. In the United States, there is no such one-sided approach to informing citizens about the domestic life of the country.
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      1. Alexy
        Alexy 29 December 2019 12: 18
        +7
        No, I'm the son of a lawyer
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    5. knn54
      knn54 29 December 2019 12: 42
      -1
      Nothing "personal" -proposes to "unload" the President, as now the President of Russia bears "a huge burden of responsibilities."
      Personally, I have a negative opinion of Yeltsin and Rutskoi. There is no need to talk about the countries of Africa and Latin America - the coups were often followed by the second who wanted to be the first.
      Yes, and in the United States. Replacing Roosevelt and Kennedy, dramatically changed their policies.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 29 December 2019 18: 59
        0
        the term is needed ONE, and concrete.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 29 December 2019 21: 07
          +1
          But the impeachment tool needs to be simplified. And not any immunity after the reign. Nakosyachil at the helm - answer.
          1. shtatsov
            shtatsov 30 December 2019 06: 05
            +1
            Hunchback answered! If something, fuck you pull it from abroad! Our elites made alternate airfields abroad.
      2. vladcub
        vladcub 30 December 2019 14: 26
        0
        In principle, it is true: every "vice" wants to drop the prefix and become president. Law of nature
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 29 December 2019 11: 16
    +21
    Zhirinovsky proposed amendments to the Constitution regarding the post of president
    laughing Well done. I worked out my loot. negative
    The artist played his role to the end. He pulled himself to himself at the right time for Yeltsin’s elections.
    1. WIKI
      WIKI 29 December 2019 11: 37
      +13
      Quote: Observer2014
      The artist played his part to the end.

      As long as our electoral system is in a state that allows such artists, and not artists, to be in power indefinitely, the constitution cannot be touched. Because, as they will always change it only in their own interests.
      1. Nikolay87
        Nikolay87 29 December 2019 11: 46
        +3
        Quote: WIKI
        Quote: Observer2014
        The artist played his part to the end.

        As long as our electoral system is in a state that allows such artists, and not artists, to be in power indefinitely, the constitution cannot be touched. Because, as they will always change it only in their own interests.

        Well said.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 29 December 2019 11: 52
          +5
          They are preparing .... Vaughn, and the "family" began to stir - the "main negotiator" Mr. Voloshin got out of the shadows ....
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 13: 49
        -1
        Not the electoral system, but civil society. As long as there is no civil society in the country, there will always be artists in power.
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 29 December 2019 14: 30
          +7
          The creation of civil society involves a longer process. And bringing the electoral system to an adequate state will take a much shorter period of time, and will have a great impact on the formation of civil society. First, introduce a criminal penalty for falsifying election results. Bring to a logical conclusion the use of video of the electoral process, providing the opportunity to present it in the courts. It is so easy to do if there is political will.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 14: 43
            +2
            Who will introduce the penalty for falsification? Good uncle is a fairy-tale character. As long as power, at least locally, is not controlled by society, any law will not be in favor of society.
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 29 December 2019 15: 23
              +4
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Who will introduce the penalty for falsification?

              Courts An example of Golunov showed that power can bend under the influence of protests. It is also possible to influence the courts, which are currently manual. In order to control the government, it is necessary to tidy up the electoral system so that there is the possibility of the emergence of an effective opposition, rather than a pocket one. People do not go to the polls not because they are satisfied with the power, but because they do not believe in the fairness of the elections.
              1. vladcub
                vladcub 30 December 2019 14: 31
                +1
                I have been talking about this for a long time: we NEED A ADEQUATE OPPOSITION LEADER
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 47
              +5
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Who will introduce the penalty for falsification?

              actually there is an article for this, that's just what the police are excited for, and if it doesn't, then ....
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              While power, at least locally, is not controlled by society

              the fact of the matter is that this is a nightmare for power
      3. Robertocalos
        Robertocalos 29 December 2019 14: 56
        +1
        Our election system is excellent. Only it does not work. Like the main state institutions.
        1. DNS-a42
          DNS-a42 29 December 2019 16: 37
          +1
          Everything is working. Bourgeois elections and institutions perfectly defend the interests of the oligarchs. For this they exist.
      4. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 29 December 2019 19: 01
        -1
        Quote: WIKI
        the constitution cannot be touched.

        those. written under the dictation of the State Department, correct.
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 29 December 2019 19: 39
          +1
          I believe that while in a one-party system, the constitution cannot be changed.
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      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 29 December 2019 15: 41
        +1
        Quote: Pied Piper
        Quote: Observer2014
        The artist played his role to the end. He pulled himself to himself at the right time for Yeltsin’s election


        Here I agree with you completely! hi It is convenient for any government in Russia ..

        Forgive me if that. hi Hamlo is still there. With the coming.
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    3. New Year day
      New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 36
      +7
      Quote: Observer2014
      Well done. I worked out my loot.

      not only loot, but also caressed by any power


      I bow my head obediently
      before you, you are our Creator!
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        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 29 December 2019 19: 03
          -1
          Quote: Observer2014
          Meehan. It doesn't look like you at all.

          well ..because it's not a "mikhan" ...
  3. Alexga
    Alexga 29 December 2019 11: 22
    -5
    It’s strange. And if the head of state successfully fulfills his duties, why change him? A new one will come, he needs time in order to learn how to work successfully successfully. In my opinion, this is a simple copy of Western jokes.
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      1. Alexga
        Alexga 29 December 2019 11: 33
        +3
        And here is Putin? It can be Petrov, Ivanov, Sidorov. Question of a principled approach. Do not forget that the power of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR was under authoritative rulers.
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        2. WIKI
          WIKI 29 December 2019 11: 49
          +9
          Quote: AlexGa
          And here is Putin?

          Putin, he is not himself on the set. Around him, and with his support, an "elite" was formed, elevated to the rank of not touched and not controlled by society. Given these facts, she will always try to "clone" the previous leader.
        3. New Year day
          New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 40
          +7
          Quote: AlexGa
          And here is Putin? It can be Petrov, Ivanov, Sidorov.

          under the existing electoral system and the "independence" of the CEC - do not flatter yourself
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 11: 51
        -6
        Yeah. Strange. You need to clone Putin!


        No one needs to be cloned, but to cancel the time limit is NECESSARY. The president is a temporary worker (maximum 2 terms) - this will turn into a disaster, it makes any person dependent on the oligarchs under such conditions, and that is why we were advised and inspired in the Constitution by suggesting to people that otherwise the president will usurp power.

        In Germany, Merkel has 4 terms in power, Roosevelt has been in power in the USA for 4 terms, and these are real leaders of the country who can rely on popular support to pursue their political course like Putin, and in Ukraine every time the new president helps him a lot? !

        And if the president leaves after 2 terms and at the same time greatly annoys the oligarch, then this will turn into a bunch of accusations of corruption for him, etc. after he leaves office, and the new president will be obedient to the oligarchs like a faithful dog.

        Russia does not need such a path. Limitations of 2 terms must be lifted and the faster the better !!!
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 29 December 2019 11: 56
          +7
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Yeah. Strange. You need to clone Putin!


          No one needs to be cloned, but to cancel the time limit is NECESSARY. The president is a temporary worker (maximum 2 terms) - this will turn into a disaster, it makes any person dependent on the oligarchs under such conditions, and that is why we were advised and inspired in the Constitution by suggesting to people that otherwise the president will usurp power.

          In Germany, Merkel has 4 terms in power, Roosevelt has been in power in the USA for 4 terms, and these are real leaders of the country who can rely on popular support to pursue their political course like Putin, and in Ukraine every time the new president helps him a lot? !

          And if the president leaves after 2 terms and at the same time greatly annoys the oligarch, then this will turn into a bunch of accusations of corruption for him, etc. after he leaves office, and the new president will be obedient to the oligarchs like a faithful dog.

          Russia does not need such a path. Limitations of 2 terms must be lifted and the faster the better !!!

          laughing fool Yeah. We’ll introduce a caste system for Russia. laughing World experience zhezh.Vremyashchiki-Ha ha ha! laughing In frames. What are we building? What kind of society? Do we have our own path of development or global? bully
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 29 December 2019 12: 05
            +2
            And here is a question for the Constitution, where there is a ban on ideology. Therefore, no one knows what to build.
          2. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 12: 32
            0
            laughing fool Yeah. We’ll introduce a caste system for Russia. Why should there be little things laughing World experience zhezh. Temporary workers-Ha ha ha! laughing In shots. What are we building? What kind of society? Do we have our own path of development or global? bully


            No need to drag that which is not.

            We are building democracy in Russia, and democracy is the power of the people !!!

            And if so, then the people themselves must decide in the elections to leave the old president or stay !!!

            You do not confuse the abolition of time limits with the abolition of ELECTIONS in the country.
            1. Antidote
              Antidote 29 December 2019 13: 46
              +6
              Did they want open, fair elections? Whoever I communicate with around the country, everyone scolds Putin, but 3/4 "voted". Where are they in reality? And so at all levels of elections - whoever has the power, he "wins".
              1. Robertocalos
                Robertocalos 29 December 2019 15: 00
                +2
                Presidential - no, never. Deputies, governors and mayors - were chosen relatively honestly and very competitively. There were 2-3 strong candidates. Until 2004 He himself worked in headquarters, until the last result they did not know. Now - a complete imitation with pre-approved lists from and to. Sometimes it crashes, but this is rare.
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 44
                  +3
                  Quote: Robertocalos
                  Deputies, governors and mayors - were chosen relatively honestly and very competitively. There were 2-3 strong candidates. Until 2004

                  in those years he was an observer in the elections of the governor of the Nenets Autonomous District. We were brought by plane from Moscow, fed and watered as if for slaughter, but they asked one thing: "Don't let the elections be falsified, everything must be fair." From 7-00 to 2 am we were constantly at the PS, we controlled the whole process. I still don't know who brought us a whole plane of observers from Moscow?
                  1. Robertocalos
                    Robertocalos 29 December 2019 15: 51
                    0
                    One of the candidates is obvious)
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 57
                      +3
                      Quote: Robertocalos
                      One of the candidates is obvious)

                      this is obvious, but I don’t know the name and its result in the elections
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 29 December 2019 12: 20
          -1
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Russia does not need such a path. Limitations of 2 terms must be lifted and the faster the better !!!

          And make a lifetime post?)))
        3. Good_Anonymous
          Good_Anonymous 29 December 2019 14: 42
          +1
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Merkel has 4 terms in power in Germany; Roosevelt has been in power in the USA 4 terms


          After Roosevelt, the American Constitution was amended to limit the number of presidential terms per person. In Germany, parliamentary democracy.
      3. Svarog
        Svarog 29 December 2019 11: 56
        +16
        Quote: Observer2014
        What are we building? What kind of society?

        The problem is that they are not building anything, but they have put a device on society .. If they were building, they could already see the result ..
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 29 December 2019 12: 20
          -8
          Quote: Svarog
          If they were building, then they could already see the result ..

          I lived in the dashing 90s and can compare. There are results.
          1. shura7782
            shura7782 29 December 2019 15: 45
            +2
            Quote: Piramidon
            There are results.

            And you do not think that this result could be not so, but much better. Maybe 19 years is the age of a young man, all the leaps and breakthroughs ahead. )))
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 29 December 2019 17: 24
              -2
              Quote: shura7782
              And you do not think that this result could be not so, but much better

              Could, with a different state structure. But is there any result? Something is being done in a positive sense. Perestroika and the Boriskino reign in general killed everything without any hope for the best ..
              1. shura7782
                shura7782 29 December 2019 18: 30
                0
                Quote: Piramidon
                and Boriskino’s reign killed everything without hope
                We can agree with this. because it is known by comparison.
                Something ...
                Stepan, the main complaint about the GDP, from my point of view, is that this "WHAT'S THAT" is not enough anymore. In beloved China (this is about GDP), any student knows that we have an extremely inefficient economy. So your fair phrase
                in general, everything killed without any hope for the best ..
                Now relevant too.
                Question. How to make the top work so effectively that the feelings of the local URA patriots do not offend?
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 11: 45
      +1
      It’s strange. And if the head of state successfully fulfills his duties, why change him? A new one will come, he needs time in order to learn how to work successfully successfully. In my opinion, this is a simple copy of Western jokes.


      I agree with you on 100%.

      Nobody cancels the election. The people should decide once every 6 years to extend the powers of the president or not, and not automatically refuse good for the sake of someone deciding that the presidents should be changed regularly.

      No one at any enterprise or production dismisses a good leader, engineer or skilled worker just because he has worked in this position for 10 years. Such people are valued, because it is very difficult to find replacements for them.

      And the main person in the country - the president, we want to dismiss in fact only because he has already worked and let another try. The West imposed this norm on us as a time limit and we are still defending it.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 29 December 2019 11: 53
        0
        I absolutely agree with you!
      2. Alexga
        Alexga 29 December 2019 12: 07
        +1
        I’ll add, it’s like in the army when they proclaimed that the officer should grow. And he is capable of more, no one understood. Such things have been done!
  4. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 29 December 2019 11: 22
    +10
    who cares? under capitalism, whoever you choose is a stooge of the oligarchy and only very naive people think that the system can be changed through elections, look at historical examples, only the revolution, as if we wouldn’t want it without a fight, money bags will never give up power
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 11: 40
      -5
      under capitalism, whoever you choose is a protege of the oligarchy


      Putin whose protege? Khodorkovsky or Berezovsky? Where are these oligarchs now?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 29 December 2019 11: 50
        +7
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Where are these oligarchs now?

        Aven, Friedman, Vekselberg, Potanin, Rotenberg.
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 12: 08
          -4
          Aven, Friedman, Vekselberg, Potanin, Rotenberg.


          Are these people oligarchs?

          The oligarch is the one who influences politics in the country, so Khodorkovsky and Berezovsky tried and they are not in the country.

          And those whom you listed are just rich people and they already became rich before Putin. The same Rotenberg has been working with Gazprom subsidiaries since 1992, and Putin did nothing to help him with this, like everyone else.

          But the Rotenbergs rescued Putin with the same Crimean bridge, otherwise it would now stand as North 2 or South Stream unfinished, because the US is threatening sanctions. And so Rotenberg took the project and took a bunch of contractors across the country and did !!! Yes, it’s not kosher without a tender for a direct one, either with the Zenith stadium and the Vostochny cosmodrome, where a lot of money has already been stolen on these long-term construction projects and a lot of people have been planted, but then THE BRIDGE IS READY !!!

          Or what, someone else was eager to build a bridge to the Crimea? Sberbank, headed by the pseudo-liberal and "smart guy" Gref, is even afraid to open a bank branch there.

          Do you need people like Gref in power? Who will lick the boots and boots of the Western masters ?! I don’t, I need someone like Putin.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 29 December 2019 12: 13
            +4
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            I don’t, I need someone like Putin.

            I need people like Grudinin, Platoshkin, Kvachkov, Sirelkov, etc. People who see and understand that a strong economy determines the greatness of a country, not gas and oil pipelines in all directions.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 29 December 2019 12: 25
              -8
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              I need people like Grudinin,

              Businessman and marketer.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Platoshkin

              Two-faced balabol, on TV for Putin, he is tearing his shirt on himself, but on the Internet he’s hateful.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Kvachkov,

              Fucker, convict.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Sirelkov

              Khokhlov sold, surrendered Slavyansk, now rolled down to the marginal
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 29 December 2019 12: 27
                +6
                Is Putin our everything? belay For the rest, I would like to have evidence.
              2. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 12: 30
                +2
                In general, I agree, only in vain are you talking about Strelkov.

                He would not have kept Slovyansk, and this is a fact, the forces are not very equal, but if he died there, it would become a demoralizing factor for the entire militia and would have encouraged the punitive forces from the Armed Forces, which would lead to the complete defeat of the militia.

                As they say, everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side.

                Strelkov is a good commander, but he has no political experience, and now he has completely retired.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 29 December 2019 21: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  Strelkov is a good commander, but he has no political experience, and now he has completely retired.

                  Watch it on YouTube.
            2. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 12: 26
              -2
              I need people like Grudinin, Platoshkin, Kvachkov, Sirelkov, etc. People,


              Grudinin?

              This is the one who deceived the collective farmers with shares during the privatization and appropriated more than 40% of the collective farm from 2000 hectares in Moscow and now receives the lion's share of the income from leasing this land to such shopping centers as Vegas and another 10 similar, but smaller. At the same time, he pretends to be the leader of a successful collective farm, saying that he made a fortune on strawberries and teaches the rest how agriculture should be developed.
              And Gruzinin has so much money that he forgets how much and what accounts he has in foreign banks and brazenly lies to his voters? How can you forget that you have not 1, but 11 accounts in currency and gold and this is only in one bank.

              Platoshkin?

              The populist often speaks beautifully, only he lacks competence and professionalism, and maybe he just lies intentionally.

              Beluga roared that Russia sells electricity to China cheaper than to the public. If he was a competent person, he would understand that firstly they sell to China at a wholesale price and in large volumes, and this is the price at the border, when electricity reaches Chinese consumers, part of it due to physical reasons (due to distance) will be lost, in addition so that electricity reaches the consumer, a lot of substations with a staff of people work on this, and for this reason, the retail price is always higher than the wholesale price.

              Kvachkov?

              Kvachkov and his associates planned to seize weapons in several military units, and then arrange a campaign against Moscow, the aim of which was to seize power.

              Do you want to see how tanks shoot at the parliament in the country again ?!


              Shooters?

              Good colonel. Only now the leader of the country does not pull.
              1. Astra wild
                Astra wild 29 December 2019 15: 00
                +3
                Ratmir, are you all bad, but is there anyone good?
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 13: 54
          +2
          Quite the opposite. If not for Putin, then neither Rotenberg, nor Timchenko, nor Vekselberg would ever have become oligarchs. But the destruction of seven-bankers is Putin’s merit.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 48
            +6
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            But the destruction of seven-bankers is Putin’s merit.

            to...
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Rotenbergs, Timchenko, Vekselberg became oligarchs.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 16: 29
              -1
              And who else can you rely on? Only to the one who owes you everything that you yourself have done.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 29 December 2019 16: 38
                +4
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                And who else can you rely on? Only to the one who owes you everything that you yourself have done.

                a new king will come and this cycle will be repeated.
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 16: 45
                  0
                  By itself. That was the case under any authority: the leader surrounded himself with his people.
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 29 December 2019 16: 51
                    +3
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    By itself. That was the case under any authority: the leader surrounded himself with his people.

                    so what then
                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    ... Putin’s merit.

                    at...
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    ... the destruction of seven-bankers
                    ?
                    After all, I tried for myself and for friends
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 December 2019 11: 29
    +9
    Vladimir Volfovich proposed to remove the word “in a row” from this wording
    The practice of Vladimir Volfovich, worked out over the years, is a harsh criticism of everyone and everything on TV, in fact, with two hands for what the president has expressed. And, characteristically, this works great for Zhirinovsky.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 29 December 2019 11: 32
    +10
    If Zhirik proposes, therefore, the reform will be ... He usually type from the opposition voices the desire for power ...
  7. vmo
    vmo 29 December 2019 11: 36
    +7
    at the same time send to retire Zhirinovsky, as a country's burden.
  8. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 11: 39
    -1
    Nonsense and stupidity !!!

    It is necessary to remove the word - "limitation of presidential powers to 2 terms" !!!

    I explain why:

    1. The president, who can be elected for 2 terms, understands that he will quit anyway, that is, he is a temporary worker, and when he is deprived of power and its protection, financial tycoons can punish him simply by provoking a bunch of false accusations and therefore it makes him dependent from oligarchs (as in the USA). There, by the way, precisely after Roosevelt (the people's president), these restrictions were introduced.

    And the dependent president from the oligarchs, especially in Russia, will lead us to a new collapse and a new civil war.

    Based on the support of the people (like Roosevelt), the president can safely pursue his policy, implement projects not for the sake of rating and popularity, but for the sake of a positive effect in 10 or even 20 years, even if this is not immediately obvious.

    2. The choice of the people should not be limited either by the Constitution of the Russian Federation or by anything or by anyone else, no one will usurp the power (Merkel has 4 terms in power, Putin has 4 terms in power for 200 years) the elections remain and the people decide to extend the powers of the country's leader or not - this is a full-fledged democracy.

    Well, no one in their right mind expels a talented leader or just an engineer or a skilled worker from the enterprise only because he has worked on it for 8 years. So why should we take another president on whom not the fate of the plant but the whole country depends, if the old suits us ?!
    1. skif8013
      skif8013 29 December 2019 11: 50
      -4
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Nonsense and stupidity !!!

      It is necessary to remove the word - "limitation of presidential powers to 2 terms" !!!

      I explain why:

      1. The president, who can be elected for 2 terms, understands that he will quit anyway, that is, he is a temporary worker, and when he is deprived of power and its protection, financial tycoons can punish him simply by provoking a bunch of false accusations and therefore it makes him dependent from oligarchs (as in the USA). There, by the way, precisely after Roosevelt (the people's president), these restrictions were introduced.

      And the dependent president from the oligarchs, especially in Russia, will lead us to a new collapse and a new civil war.

      Based on the support of the people (like Roosevelt), the president can safely pursue his policy, implement projects not for the sake of rating and popularity, but for the sake of a positive effect in 10 or even 20 years, even if this is not immediately obvious.

      2. The choice of the people should not be limited either by the Constitution of the Russian Federation or by anything or by anyone else, no one will usurp the power (Merkel has 4 terms in power, Putin has 4 terms in power for 200 years) the elections remain and the people decide to extend the powers of the country's leader or not - this is a full-fledged democracy.

      Well, no one in their right mind expels a talented leader or just an engineer or a skilled worker from the enterprise only because he has worked on it for 8 years. So why should we take another president on whom not the fate of the plant but the whole country depends, if the old suits us ?!

      I totally agree with you. I do not know a single leader, ruler or monarch who in a short time could achieve significant things for the country. If something was done, then at least it is not fast. Any president needs time to carry out his reforms. And if every 6 years we change the sovereign, we will get porridge in all sectors.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 29 December 2019 12: 24
        +6
        Quote: skif8013
        then we get porridge in all sectors.

        And now what? belay It’s not even porridge, it’s a vanity fair and absurdity! It was under Putin that the head of Roscosmos receives a salary many times higher than the head of NASA. It was under Putin that Serdyukov exchanges one chair for another, and does not sit in prison. He must be dismissed with disgrace, and not be transferred to another department with a raise. It’s better to keep silent about Chubais; for 10 years now he must rot at the landfill for state criminals. And that's all under Putin.
        Further, lovers of singing praises to Putin, they say thousands of factories and factories are open - make up two columns on a piece of paper, write down the number of factories with jobs, in the number of closed ones, also with jobs. For without comparison, all your praises are nothing more than vile manipulation.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 29 December 2019 12: 28
        +2
        Quote: skif8013
        . Any president needs time to carry out his reforms. And if every 6 years we change the sovereign, we will get porridge in all sectors.

        Putin has been in power for 20 years, so what?
        He carried out the reforms — pension, trash, tax, etc. How much reform does he need to still skin the population?
        1. skif8013
          skif8013 29 December 2019 14: 34
          -7
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: skif8013
          . Any president needs time to carry out his reforms. And if every 6 years we change the sovereign, we will get porridge in all sectors.

          Putin has been in power for 20 years, so what?
          He carried out the reforms — pension, trash, tax, etc. How much reform does he need to still skin the population?

          90s remember and compare. The whining and murmuring of the people in all ages will be. But not everyone dares to take a sober look from the side. Again, I do not praise Putin, but he saved our country and at least deserves respect for it! Personally, I am not particularly pleased with life as it is now, but I am afraid to imagine in a nightmare that it would be if Boriska had not left then! And for those who are not satisfied, I can say, compare the army to 2000 and today's, compare what Russia can now. Forgot how Yugoslavia was ironed, and we were silent in a rag? !!! Now this number will not work !!!
      3. Antidote
        Antidote 29 December 2019 13: 54
        +7
        Why are you trying to personify power? First of all, there should be a working system, regardless of the name of the leader, and when everything is based on personal agreements, then there is nothing good in this. Fell down the stairs and everything crumbled.
      4. New Year day
        New Year day 29 December 2019 15: 55
        +5
        Quote: skif8013
        I do not know a single leader, ruler or monarch who in a short time could achieve significant things for the country. If something was done, then at least it is not fast. Any president needs time to carry out his reforms.

        name at least one US president, prime minister of Japan, South Korea, who would rule for so many years? They are changing in terms of time and countries are developing.
        In China, the President of the PRC cannot be in power for more than 2 terms of 5 years. And what, China in the swamp?
        1. Win1945
          Win1945 30 December 2019 08: 54
          +1
          Well, I want the serfs of the king. There is nothing to be done with such ...
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 30 December 2019 12: 24
          +1
          In the PRC, if you are not in the know, restrictions on occupation of terms by the Secretary General of the CPC Central Committee and the Chairman of the PRC are lifted at the initiative of Xi. In recent decades, they have had the practice of combining the posts of the Secretary General of the CPC Central Committee and the Chairman of the PRC. But by themselves, the powers of the President of the PRC are very modest. He has real power precisely because he is also the Secretary General of the CPC Central Committee. At the level of provinces, autonomous regions and large cities there is no such combination, there is another scheme most often (not always): city measures, the provincial governor is the deputy secretary of the CPC committee of the city or province.
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 29 December 2019 14: 50
      0
      Ratmir, actually F. Roosevelt was the glorification of big capital, as they told us at school, but the people and the oligarchs are not the same
    3. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 29 December 2019 14: 57
      +1
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      And the dependent president from the oligarchs, especially in Russia, will lead us to a new collapse and a new civil war.


      Who will fight with whom in this civil war?

      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Well, no one in their right mind expels a talented leader or just an engineer or a skilled worker from the enterprise only because he has worked on it for 8 years.


      No one in their right mind would equate a "talented leader" with a president.
    4. Robertocalos
      Robertocalos 29 December 2019 16: 00
      +7
      Take a look at the big car companies. Even for 10 years, CEOs are rarely delayed. But the concern is almost a state. With hundreds of thousands of employees around the world. A good person is not a profession. The director announced plans for a five-year plan with numbers. Executed - the contract was extended. No goodbye. In such a scenario, Putin would have been calculated long ago. Carlos Ghosn, who created the largest Renault Nissan and brought billions in profits, is now in prison, because he spent some miserable couple of million on his comfort and gave a crooked account of them. This is called the word "responsibility"
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty 29 December 2019 11: 40
    -3
    In general, the post of president needs to be removed — the king should be chosen for life! To legitimize de jure, what is happening in the country de facto! !!
    1. Igor Pa
      Igor Pa 29 December 2019 11: 49
      -1
      Yes! Zhirik already proposed this several years ago! )
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 29 December 2019 12: 11
      0
      In general, the post of president needs to be removed — the king should be chosen for life! To legitimize de jure, what is happening in the country de facto! !!


      Do not be stupid !!! There is no talk that the president works in advance until death, as ELECTIONS every 6 years !!! It will be better new - we choose a new one, the old one is satisfied - we leave it.

      In Germany there is no time limit for the Chancellor, well, something no one there introduces the king’s position and does not shout that Merkel has built a new Reich and usurped power.
      1. Good_Anonymous
        Good_Anonymous 29 December 2019 15: 05
        +2
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        In Germany, there is no time limit for the Chancellor


        In Germany, the proclamation republic and parliament may dismiss the chancellor. It is impossible to dismiss the president.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 30 December 2019 12: 31
          0
          According to lawyers, Germany is not a typical parliamentary republic. It is sometimes called a semi-parliamentary republic. Unlike, for example, Italy, they do not have a government as a collegial body. The chancellor bears sole responsibility to the Bundestag. The Chancellor’s Bundestag to resign is much harder than to elect (with subsequent formal appointment as President of the Federal Republic of Germany). It is all about having an institution of a constructive vote of no confidence. Over the 70 years of its existence, the Federal Republic of Germany managed to announce a vote of no confidence in just one chancellor, Helmut Schmidt. And all because the junior coalition partners from the FDP went over to the CDU / CSU side. The chancellor’s power is most often limited by the need to create a coalition of party representatives who hold different positions on many issues.
      2. Robertocalos
        Robertocalos 29 December 2019 16: 03
        +5
        In which elections did Putin have a real competitor to at least theoretically admit equal chances? There have been no elections in the country for a long time. There is a "kind of approval" according to a pre-mediated scenario, including figures, so that the authorities in the Russian Federation are not perceived as a dictatorship over the hill.
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 29 December 2019 12: 25
      +6
      Quote: Thrifty
      In general, the post of president needs to be removed — the king should be chosen for life! To legitimize de jure, what is happening in the country de facto! !!

      how will your proposal sound when Medvedev is moved to the post of tsar?

      But such an option is very possible!
    4. RUSS
      RUSS 29 December 2019 12: 31
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      In general, the post of president needs to be removed — the king should be chosen for life! To legitimize de jure, what is happening in the country de facto! !!

      Can you go to the DPRK?
    5. Robertocalos
      Robertocalos 29 December 2019 15: 02
      0
      Constitutional monarchy is a very real scheme. Many developed countries live in it. But the power of kings is minimal there.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 29 December 2019 16: 56
        -3
        Quote: Robertocalos
        Constitutional monarchy is a very real scheme. Many developed countries live in it. But the power of kings is minimal there.

        Local jingoistic patriots offer the option with the "absolute monarchy"
  10. New Year day
    New Year day 29 December 2019 12: 23
    +5
    It's strange. that Putin was the first to speak about the word "in a row". Usually Zhirinovsky is the first to "put forward" ideas that for some reason are being implemented
    1. Harry.km
      Harry.km 29 December 2019 14: 40
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      It's strange. that Putin was the first to speak about the word "in a row".

      Apparently because after such a change in the constitution, the counter will reset to zero ... and there will be an opportunity to add another 2 by this time.
  11. Metlik
    Metlik 29 December 2019 13: 12
    +9
    Whatever changes to the constitution are proposed, they must be submitted to a national referendum, otherwise each king, having appointed a pocket parliament, will mock her as she wants.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 29 December 2019 14: 42
      +5
      I agree that no one would have questions about the legitimacy of power, all changes and the Constitution should be carried out through a referendum
      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: Thrifty
      In general, the post of president needs to be removed — the king should be chosen for life! To legitimize de jure, what is happening in the country de facto! !!

      how will your proposal sound when Medvedev is moved to the post of tsar?

      But such an option is very possible!

      And Dimasik already rubs his hands in advance and smiles?
  12. sergant036
    sergant036 29 December 2019 13: 29
    +2
    Zhirik continues his secret subversive activities. His work for the US country elites is beyond doubt. Old @ idor and a villain.
  13. Astra wild
    Astra wild 29 December 2019 14: 33
    +2
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    The leader needs a herd. Unfortunately, we do not have bourgeois democracy. Our wild capitalism has nothing to do with bourgeois democracy. Although he is better than the era of leaders.

    I apologize, but I did not understand how wild capitalism could be better than the era of leaders.
    1. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 29 December 2019 14: 55
      +1
      Quote: Astra wild
      how wild capitalism can be better than the era of leaders.


      Leaders do not rule out wild capitalism. Otherwise, the history of Latin America is very curious from this point of view. Have you heard about Somos, Peron, Trujillo? And about Pinochet, Chavez?
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 29 December 2019 16: 43
        +1
        I would not put Chavez on a par with Pinochet
        1. Good_Anonymous
          Good_Anonymous 29 December 2019 16: 50
          0
          Quote: Astra wild
          I would not put Chavez on a par with Pinochet


          Bet or not, but he is a good example of what happens if a politician does not limit his term in office (or if a politician cancels these restrictions).
          1. Astra wild
            Astra wild 31 December 2019 20: 05
            0
            In fact, Chavez did not cheat on the election. If he did, then the Americans would raise such a high: violation of democracy, etc.
            It’s just that Chávez won without any options thanks to Nationwide support
            1. Good_Anonymous
              Good_Anonymous 1 January 2020 02: 50
              0
              Chavez amended the Constitution to exceed the time limit.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 29 December 2019 16: 58
          -4
          Quote: Astra wild
          I would not put Chavez on a par with Pinochet

          True, under Pinochet, there was economic growth in Chile, and Chavez drove Venezuela into even greater poverty.
          1. Good_Anonymous
            Good_Anonymous 1 January 2020 02: 51
            0
            Not certainly in that way. Under Chavez, there was also an increase, then a decline (as well as under Pinochet, by the way). "Has driven Venezuela" already Maduro.
  14. Robertocalos
    Robertocalos 29 December 2019 14: 49
    -1
    It seems that the Old Man was squeezed. He will be vice president of the union state. And Putin will steer another 2 terms. And there you can and once again change the constitution, if it survives. Old Man no one to the highest post will not allow, no matter how he dreamed. Although he could have won the fair elections. He has no 100 families in his country who use half a budget
  15. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 29 December 2019 15: 03
    +4
    They will do everything as they need, and if we are completely shocked by changes in the constitution, then they will ask to be treated with understanding.
    Once already rolled ....
  16. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 16: 08
    +2
    Quote: RUSS
    You live in the past, it’s normal at your age

    Why not remember the past. Everything is relative. If "then" was better for someone, then there are reasons for that. Sometimes it is necessary to look back in order to understand what we have really lost.
  17. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 16: 18
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    Quote: AS Ivanov.
    The herd needs a herd

    The leader is necessary, otherwise nothing will work. Any team under the guidance of a competent and strong-willed leader is able to complete any task. The reason is simple. The leader will be able to lead everyone, captivate with the idea, "burn the hearts of people with a verb." And people will. You don't have to go far for an example. Take, for example, Sergei Pavlovich Korolev. What his team did before our eyes. We still fly into space on HIS rockets. Still.
    And if the leader is a ram, then even the "coolest" team will only be able to bleat.
  18. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 16: 23
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    Quote: Finches
    But Stalin understood this, so huge means went into science

    He understood this because he was a statesman, and set his personal interests far behind. For this alone it is worthy of respect.
    1. DNS-a42
      DNS-a42 29 December 2019 16: 44
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      GDP is also a statesman. That's just that the GDP and Stalin have different states, with different goals and interests.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 30 December 2019 14: 46
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        DNS, Stalin and Lenin are born every 2 years so that no comparisons
  19. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 16: 49
    +2
    Quote: AlexGa
    It’s strange. And if the head of state successfully fulfills his duties, why change him? A new one will come, he needs time in order to learn how to work successfully successfully. In my opinion, this is a simple copy of Western jokes.

    The fact of the matter is that the state should not care who the president is at the moment. Everything should work without it. The president-guarantor of the constitution determines the direction of foreign and domestic policy. And the state is moving at this time, developing, and not convulsively jerking from side to side.
  20. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 16: 58
    +4
    Quote: AlexGa
    It’s strange. And if the head of state successfully fulfills his duties, why change him? A new one will come, he needs time in order to learn how to work successfully successfully. In my opinion, this is a simple copy of Western jokes.

    Because "the brain freezes and thoughts dry up." A person "turns bronze" and becomes not a generator of new ideas, but a brake on development. Everything is overgrown with family ties, clans, turns into a swamp. And don't rock the boat, you won't get out of the swamp, only it will suck deeper.
  21. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 17: 08
    +3
    Quote: Svarog
    The problem is that they are not building anything, but they have put a device on society .. If they were building, they could already see the result ..

    Here, some said, they say you live in the past. Take a look back. Compare:
    -The Great Patriotic War ended in 1945. The country's gender is in ruins, millions of dead, even more crippled. After 16 years, Gagarin flies into space. Satellites even earlier. The space rocket industry was created from scratch in an open field.
    -The GDP has been in power for almost 20 years. We are still flying the "Gagarin" rocket.
  22. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 17: 15
    0
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    No one at any enterprise or production dismisses a good leader, engineer or skilled worker just because he has worked in this position for 10 years.

    You confuse the leader and the performer. Performers embody ideas in metal. No ideas, no output. If a leader-generator of ideas sits in one place for a long time and does not move up the career ladder, then he is not capable of more, burns out as a specialist and is not able to benefit the common cause.
  23. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 17: 25
    +2
    Quote: Piramidon
    I lived in the dashing 90s and can compare. There are results.

    Everyone was there. There is something to compare. Let's start comparing with 2000. As of January 2000, 92nd gasoline cost 6-50 (in some places 6-70). How many now ? Well, let's take at the very minimum, 42 rubles. Although next to me is more expensive everywhere. Remembering arithmetic. We receive 27% per year. That is, the average rate of price growth for the 92nd is at least a quarter every year for all 20 years. Every year ALL twenty years. Who's salary or pension has grown by a quarter every year for the past twenty years? I do not have. And in response from TV: "I will not allow a sharp rise in the price of gasoline." The question is: if every year it is “not sharp” by a quarter, then how much “sharp” when?
  24. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 17: 34
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    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    And the main person in the country - the president, we want to dismiss in fact only because he has already worked and let another try. The West imposed this norm on us as a time limit and we are still defending it.

    To find out how he worked, you need to compare other similar presidents. The closest neighbors, whom we want to look up to. Germany, Poland, China, Japan, Finland and so on. Has anyone seen a heated discussion on the central channels of the growth in the prosperity of these countries and their citizens in terms of "purchasing power parity" in comparison with Russia, for example? Maybe Solovyov is in the program? In 60 minutes? No, I don't remember that. If we won all, then we (and HE) are great. And if we are at the very end?
  25. vladcub
    vladcub 29 December 2019 17: 39
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    Quote: Robertocalos
    There is a grain of sanity. But decisions need to be made and done with responsibility. Then 4 levels of deputies should be - district - city - region - federation. Each consists of members of previous levels. And the electoral college of the president of the most respected people is proportional to the population of the subjects.

    You like the American system, but I don't like it. In my opinion, the electoral system is worse than. general election
  26. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 29 December 2019 17: 44
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    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    Platoshkin?

    The populist often speaks beautifully, only he lacks competence and professionalism, and maybe he just lies intentionally.

    And did "the very" have competence in 2000? Professionalism? What political party was he the leader of? How long have you been involved in politics? Remind the political program? Command him? Who knew about his existence besides relatives and colleagues? Nobody. And that's why everyone remembers the famous question "Hu of Mr. Putin?" Did you manage? I did it. History and country will appreciate. And Platoshkin is worse? Professional diplomat. He has written many books on the topic of international relations. Why can't he do it? Yes, no worse than "himself". And we will estimate over time.
  27. Igor -2019-7-36
    Igor -2019-7-36 29 December 2019 21: 29
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    To the position of vice president
    the staff of employees will be added,
    Press Secretary, etc.
    This is called minimization.
    bureaucratic structures!
  28. Serg 122
    Serg 122 30 December 2019 10: 20
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    There was already one (from Wiki):
    Vice-President of the Russian Federation (until December 25, 1991 - Vice-President of the RSFSR) - one of the highest officials in the Russian Federation from April 24, 1991 to December 25, 1993. He was elected as a single candidate with the president for a 5-year term [1]. A citizen of Russia no younger than 35 and no older than 65 years old, who had the right to vote, could be elected vice-president. He could not be a people's deputy and hold other positions in state and public bodies, entrepreneurial structures.
    The vice-president of Russia, on behalf of the president, exercised his individual powers. In the case of removal of the president from office or his death, resignation or inability to exercise the powers and duties of the president, those passed to the vice president. If it is impossible to fulfill the powers of the President of the Russian Federation by the vice-president of the Russian Federation, they successively passed to the chairman of the Council of Ministers - the Government of the Russian Federation, to the chairman of the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation.
    The post was abolished on December 25, 1993 due to the entry into force of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which does not provide for the position of vice-president of the Russian Federation.

    Alexander Vladimir Rutsky - if anyone does not remember ...
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 30 December 2019 11: 48
      +1
      Quote: Serg 122
      Alexander Vladimir Rutsky - if anyone does not remember ...

      From Rutskoi, as from the vice president, it turned out to be like a goat of milk. It’s good that in 1993 he was still not personally killed inside the White House itself.

      Rutskoi in 1991 (by the way, like General A. Lebed) was a "pawn" in someone else's game for power between Yeltsin and Gorbachev. in the game of the same West, namely the United States.
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    2. Tatyana
      Tatyana 30 December 2019 12: 23
      +1
      I remember how Rutskoi, from the walls of the White House into a microphone, called on the unarmed population of the country to come to defend the White House. People have come - and many! And all of them were shot by Russian troops!
      Well, how can an unarmed people withstand an army ?!
      It seems that the position of vice president was created in order to shoot and destroy all popular opposition to the anti-people liberal regime of Gorbachev and Yeltsin in the country.

      So the example of the vice-presidency of Rutsky is not entirely successful in socio-historical terms!
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 30 December 2019 14: 39
        +1
        I remember well how Rukoi said: "there will be no more mayors, no peers, no dicks"
  29. Tektor
    Tektor 30 December 2019 11: 54
    0
    I don’t understand why this topic has become so relevant? This is some kind of distraction for an unsuitable goal ... I think that the word "in a row" will remain or be excluded - it will not have any meaning. This is zilch, a mental virus. As if they want to cover up something else with this discussion. Namely, the Jesuit law "on the prevention of domestic violence." Which should completely destroy the family we know today. In fact, organizing a family after the adoption of such a law will mean walking through a minefield: you will never know what awaits you tomorrow. Those. this law will result in no one getting married. Bo at any moment you can lose everything: all your property and end up in prison.
  30. vladcub
    vladcub 30 December 2019 14: 34
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    Quote: WIKI
    I believe that while in a one-party system, the constitution cannot be changed.

    With a single system, the constitution is an extra attribute
  31. georggy
    georggy 30 December 2019 16: 27
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    My opinion: send everyone along with the respondent to Kolyma to clean the snow for 15 years.
  32. st2st
    st2st 31 December 2019 06: 19
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    The man whose faction voted to increase the retirement age is a lackey of the Kremlin, and there can be no question of any opposition. Vaginal gasket Vladimir Volfovich