Taxes in Russian: whoever didn’t hide is to blame


Russia is a country of contrasts



One of the oligarchs (now deceased) once said about domestic business: "Taxes in this country are paid only by fools." By all indications, it is precisely this principle that continues to adhere to today absolutely all the sharks of Russian business that are still alive.

Back in the 90s, they tried to instill the psychology of deviators to everyone who had to deal with entrepreneurial activity in one way or another. Retirement and commission, kickbacks and lateral, finally, salaries in envelopes - all this, as you know, is not at all a thing of the past. Much has only acquired a slightly more civilian form.

The general public has developed a persistent tax nihilism, which becomes stronger the more often someone has to visit the tax authorities. The situation at the reception offices of the Federal Tax Service (Federal Tax Service) has not changed for the better since the introduction of automation and the notorious “single window”.

Customers in the updated offices of local branches of the Federal Tax Service are often ready to almost shoot themselves in front of everyone. Although those wishing to “help” with taxes even in the most remote corner of the vast country are always abundant. “Help,” of course, for a modest reward. So modest that you can give half of the business, and even more.

At the same time, various kinds of "protection" from the side of the "sympathetic" representatives of one or another power agency only leads to an even greater increase in the amount that you have to give for the right itself and continue to do its own thing.

But taxpayers are cunning people - practically everything has learned to count quite well. And almost all of them are embarrassed by federal statistics, which tells them only that they are the ones who overpay the state, while all the others are underpayments.


It is unlikely to be very inspiring for honest calculations with the treasury and another interesting, but very unfamiliar figure from the series “What Rosstat Does Not Know”. This is a statistical report of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation entitled “International Investment Position of the Russian Federation”. It carefully analyzes the ratio of assets and international obligations of our country.

From this by no means a secret document, one can learn at least what the sum of Russian foreign assets is, which someone did not quite correctly call the "open position" of our big business, by analogy with the exchange term.

This deliberate terminological error can be completely forgiven, since it allows us to understand that there are also “closed positions”. So, the “open position” of capital exporters who are Russian residents in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation was estimated at 1,3 trillion dollars. How big are the “closed positions”, and it’s scary to imagine.

Taxes in Russian: whoever didn’t hide is to blame

“And now, and now hid ...”


Already a little forgotten line from the BG cycle (Boris Grebenshchikov) about the old man Kozlodoev, first widely sounded in the cult "Ass", we decided to remind for a reason. It is she who, like little else, clearly characterizes the very “open position” of the Russian oligarchs, who for some three decades have plucked 90 percent of the national wealth under themselves.

We have to admit that this is a kind of "inner circle", from among those ranked and close to the current power elite. Well, those same “windows of individual apartments” from the BG song are offshore, where our and you, dear readers, are hidden, billions and trillions. They brought, bring and, it seems, will bring their current holders a stable profit for a long time to come.

Not the biggest, but not less than 5 percent per annum - that's for sure. But it is not the interest that matters, the amount with which they run is important. These amounts can be imagined even in terms of the scale of capital outflows from Russia, although this is only the tip of the iceberg. There, the bill goes to tens of billions of dollars and trillions of rubles. Think trillions!


Is it worth explaining that even 13 percent of this profit does not want to pay anyone from the "inner circle". Yes, no one pays, because they do not seriously ask anyone. The expropriation that the power structures did with Colonel Zakharchenko or Senator Arashukov cannot be considered a really serious debriefing. There are billions of them and the name “the tip of the iceberg” will not turn around.


Not so long ago, the newly appointed, or rather, nominated to the secretary of the Public Chamber Valery Fadeev, one of the founding fathers of the business magazine "Expert", made a reservation about how much the rich households underpaid taxes to the federal treasury. It seems not so much - 500 billion rubles.

How much they should pay, Fadeev, an experienced journalist and part-time authoritative United Russia, did not bother to say. Or no one counted for him. Nevertheless, Fadeev needs to say “thank you” for the fact that he managed to notice the “huge potential” in collecting taxes from those very wealthy households.

Yes, collecting 500 billion from the rich is not an easy task. And is that not why Fadeev’s colleagues in the ruling party, over and over again, are letting go of the idea of ​​a progressive taxation scale. In parallel with this, taking care to tear off the sticky self-employed - nurses and hairdressers, tutors and private computer masters.

No "progress"


Plans to tax the "fat cats" have arisen more than once. The idea that the rich should pay more is very popular in society. Of the latest ideas, a generally modest proposal seemed to be quite acceptable to tax a salary of over 18 million rubles (2%).

However, a sound idea does not find understanding among our legislators. Although among them, it seems, no one earns more than 2 million. Many deputies and senators have better incomes, but judging by tax returns, they pay for all this, as they say, in full.

Many economists rightly consider the progressive taxation scale a powerful reserve for replenishing the budget. It is used in most countries that have recorded themselves on the list of civilized ones. In Germany, many have to pay more than 40 percent of any type of income. A flat scale is considered the norm for states with offshore jurisdiction. In this sense, Russia is an absolutely indisputable offshore.


A fair question arises: why is capital so actively withdrawn from it? And because in other offshore companies it is quite possible to pay even less, or even not pay anything. In addition, in Russia, even for holders of “free billions,” there still remains a serious risk of falling under the grindstone of a showdown of power agencies. Which, incidentally, happened with the same Zakharchenko and Arashukov. Yes, and with the former Minister of the open government Abyzov, too.

But even with a flat taxation scale, our fiscal authorities could and, in fact, should collect much more into the treasury than now. A number of economists believe that fees should simply be many times more. Although not with such meager salaries as there are in Russia now, especially in the public sector.

And if it was only an unbelievably low salary. After all, those same 13 percent are not paid at all by ordinary office plankton representatives and civil servants, but by the owners of the largest capital and the recipients of the largest salaries and other types of remuneration. For example, from among the top managers of all the largest Russian companies, starting with Gazprom, Sberbank and Rosneft.


All this audience, by the way, also prefers settlements through offshore companies, with minimal taxation. And no laws on deoffshorization are a decree for them. However, even if there is a decree, then there’s practically no use from them. These laws were adopted five years ago in the form of amendments to the tax code, and were widely advertised.

Not to say that they do not work at all. They work, but by no means at the address - those who really should have been pushed out of the offshore are not pushed by tax amendments. One can judge this by this example: in 2019, Russia for the first time demanded a report on the so-called controlled foreign companies. But no more than 4 percent of them reported.

The rest didn’t even think about reporting - the business elite actually didn’t give a damn about the beautiful amendments to the Tax Code. Do you still have doubts that the best representatives will be able to circumvent the law on a progressive taxation scale in Russia?
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  1. GKS 2111 29 December 2019 04: 24 New
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    "Do you still have doubts that the first representatives in Russia will be able to circumvent the law on a progressive taxation scale just by him, the business elite, by the best representatives?"
    The government rejects a progressive income tax scale, citing the fact that it will not be able to control taxpayers. Tax paradox! They will be able to control millions of unemployed and self-employed, while several thousand oligarchs will not.
    The Russian government is discussing a draft tax on parasitism. The next step is the tax on illness, tax on injury and tax on death. Well, and tax tax.
    1. kepmor 29 December 2019 04: 51 New
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      everything is true ... only now the "government" would definitely replace it with the "president" ...
      neither Dimon nor his whipping boys in this country are anyone and there is no way to call them ...
      they all rule 2 organized crime groups ... Ozerkovsky and family ... with one watching the "zone" ...
      1. kjhg 29 December 2019 05: 23 New
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        Quote: kepmor
        only now the "government" would definitely replace the "president" ...

        Everything is correct. I will add too.
        If only it was taxes! The point is in illegal incomes, and in corruption, and in elections without a choice, and in mocking laws, and in courts, and in the prosecutor's office, etc., etc.
        All of the above comes from the power itself. Therefore, none of these problems can be solved for so many years. And will not succeed! The existing power itself, while it is at the helm, will not allow this. It is, in fact, hard to admit for yourself. But it needs to be done.
        1. kepmor 29 December 2019 05: 38 New
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          all of the above is organized crime ...
          although there are organized crime groups in every country ... but there are countries that actually “belong to” organized crime groups ...
          Unfortunately, Russia is in this shameful list of leading positions ...
          1. Svarog 29 December 2019 08: 29 New
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            Quote: kepmor
            although there are organized crime groups in every country ... but there are countries that actually “belong to” organized crime groups ...

            The organized crime group is running the show now .. I wonder .. they have everything, they have already provided great-grandchildren .. until? Have you really lost the feeling of self-preservation completely? in my staircase again, paper of debtors for housing and communal services was hung out .. I'm in shock .. 10 apartments, debts above 200 tons .. on average 40 tons .. for housing and communal services .. People simply will soon have nothing to pay ...
            1. AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 17: 17 New
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              We also have such paper hanging with debts for utilities. All as one wealthy people. And vice versa - pensioners pay carefully.
            2. TokarevT 30 December 2019 15: 09 New
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              What can you do with them? What are you ready for? And are you ready?
            3. TokarevT 30 December 2019 15: 37 New
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              Regarding the sense of self-preservation.
              No, it is not lost in them, it is actively knocking in their minds.
              It is from this incessant knock so methodically and consistently:
              1. Laws similar to the law on insulting power are passed.
              2. Migrants are brought in to the country in batches, so as to throw them against you and your children on occasion.
              3. Russians are ousted from key areas related to national security, being replaced by the same migrants. "Topilin's List" is a good example of this.
              4. Russians are marginalized in the media.
              5 First of all, for the Russians, a full-fledged system of health care and education is being rolled up under various pretexts, against which the Russians are purposefully and consistently plunged by those who are in power into a situation of increasingly acute social ill-being.
              No, the "elites" remember and do everything to destroy by any means those who can claim the right .....
              And what can you do about them in this situation?
              What are you ready for?
              And are you ready?
              The trouble is that it will only get worse, because appetite comes with eating, and impunity, as you know, breeds permissiveness!
            4. TokarevT 30 December 2019 15: 53 New
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              Add here another CHURCH, working for power already on the spiritual front and calling on this background to even deeper humility and humility: the judaicus god there will especially take care of those who die quietly here and doom their children to it, giving to the sons of Israel and their shabesham unquestioningly everything that has or may have.
              1. point3d 4 January 2020 05: 25 New
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                Cool, the Romans and Greeks are authors, but still, the Jews are to blame again)))
                1. TokarevT 5 January 2020 12: 52 New
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                  Do you not know that we always do such things with the wrong hands.
          2. Victor N 29 December 2019 09: 01 New
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            The author teased readers - counted. That's just essentially nothing said: HOW TO collect taxes? And the problem was always and everywhere, but never was completely solved by anyone.
            1. Stas157 29 December 2019 09: 49 New
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              Quote: Victor N
              The author teased readers - counted. That's just essentially nothing said: HOW TO collect taxes? AND the problem was always and everywhere, but never by anyone has not been completely resolved.

              Oh, these generalizations! Well, where without them! The standard reception of haters is never out of date. As soon as the author raises a painful topic for Russia. There is also a “patriot” who is indignantly yelling that it is “always and everywhere like that”, well, such as an absolutely normal situation and generally and there is no problem. And then comes the demagogic - well, what would you suggest?
              1. Vadim237 29 December 2019 14: 45 New
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                Unfortunately this article is for one day - the topic was raised and safely forgotten. The efficiency is 0.
              2. Varyag71 30 December 2019 09: 12 New
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                Now patriots will come out on a salary. will prove with foam at the mouth that everything is wrong.
            2. Blacksmith 55 29 December 2019 10: 55 New
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              Good morning to everyone and Happy New Year.
              We all love the Motherland and not so much the State, because it taxes us.
              In the USA, for example, non-payment or tax evasion is punished very strictly.
              In Germany, the tax depends on the tax class. The largest taxes are paid by the first (unmarried) and fourth (married) classes. A family in total tax class should always be 8, 4 + 4, 3 + 5, 5 + 3.
              Spouses themselves choose one of three options. At the same time, the third class is the most preferential, and even making very big money, you can pay a small tax.
              But everyone is obliged to submit a tax return, and God forbid the Ministry of Finance finds something, doesn’t seem enough, they don’t joke with him. Already many millionaires have been in jail.
              It is necessary to control declarations more strictly, and naturally respond.
              1. Victor N 29 December 2019 16: 33 New
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                There are too many defaulters in Russia - there aren’t enough places for imprisonment. There are no states without taxes, and never have been. And we can’t do without the state, therefore we must pay. And this should become the norm of public morality - non-payment - it is obscene how to crap at the entrance to the entrance. And the legislation will be toughened up gradually, as the possibilities of control over execution increase.
                1. Icarus 29 December 2019 23: 22 New
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                  As a result of the benefits provided by the government to Rosneft in 2019, the real (effective) mineral extraction tax is reduced in relation to 2018.

                  Gazprom has a similar situation. But the rest - the LAW.
                  1. Old Michael 30 December 2019 00: 54 New
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                    Even millionaires are offended completely
                    1. Mordvin 3 30 December 2019 02: 07 New
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                      Quote: OldMichael
                      Even millionaires are offended completely

                      Riot on the ship? Igor Arkadevich put a little more in his little bottle.
            3. Vadim237 29 December 2019 14: 43 New
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              As in the USA - by draconian methods, just try not to pay the tax there, you will get a huge fine, and also sit down for another year and don’t care who you are a millionaire or an ordinary worker.
              1. AnderS 30 December 2019 11: 08 New
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                Honestly, your USA is tired of as an example ... In them, if you do not know, there is a very small group of super-rich gentlemen who control the Fed's printing press, who carefully monitor that someone does not pick up the size of wealth to them. Therefore, tax laws are followed there in such draconian ways to thin out competitors, on the one hand, and on the other hand, money will not be redundant to the budget either, because those who control the printing press control budget flows.
                1. Vadim237 30 December 2019 13: 26 New
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                  The richest people in the world live in the USA - and they have nothing to do with the printing press.
                  1. AnderS 31 December 2019 00: 05 New
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                    The richest people in the world live in the USA - and they have nothing to do with the printing press.
                    Are you seriously? Do not tell me, then why are they so rich?
                    1. Greenwood 2 January 2020 17: 06 New
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                      What do geniuses of the IT industry have Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak. Which of them is engaged in printing dough?
                    2. point3d 4 January 2020 05: 30 New
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                      To understand why they are rich, you first need to understand how it is possible to create and implement something without the order of the boss.
          3. 30143 29 December 2019 10: 44 New
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            Not organized crime groups, but the Mafia!
          4. Den717 29 December 2019 10: 46 New
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            Announce the entire list, please. At least a couple of ratings from serious agencies ...
          5. Vadim237 29 December 2019 14: 39 New
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            If we were in the leading positions, we would not have fought corruption at all and wouldn’t have planted anyone, had the Ulyukaevs gone free, all the stealing governors, publicans, and security officials Zakharchenko would not have sat the same way and would not have confiscated property.
        2. aybolyt678 29 December 2019 12: 41 New
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          It is, in fact, hard to admit for yourself. But it needs to be done.

          what you are talking about is called a revolution! Many consider social ownership of the means of production the main sign of socialism. This is not true. Public ownership is not a sign, it is a way of distributing material goods. The progressive tax scale is exactly the same way. That is, the progressive tax scale is a step towards socialism, and this is another social system that encroaches on the sacred cow of the current government - Private ownership of wells, pipes and banks! .....
        3. Mikheich 29 December 2019 18: 36 New
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          So what awaits us in the end ??
      2. Van 16 29 December 2019 07: 50 New
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        There was such an anecdote, quite old already - "In every country there is a mafia, and only in Russia does the mafia have a country."
        1. depressant 29 December 2019 10: 38 New
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          Victor N, from the fact that the problem of tax collection has never been completely resolved anywhere, it does not follow that it should not be resolved in Russia.
          You ask HOW to collect taxes. I believe that the answer is known to professionals. But the population understands how and with whom they do not need to be collected, or collected moderately. Opinions of legislators and the population differ.

          I used to have an understanding that lobbying by the oligarchy for tax legislation is explained by the desire to crush small and medium-sized businesses as a competitor that can grow to large and claim to redistribute the national wealth of our country to their advantage. The “small fry”, trained by the harsh conditions of real competition, would succeed!
          Now there is an understanding that the oligarchs
          the "small fry" have already been pushed back and strangled to an almost complete stop of entrepreneurial breath, and the legislation has been made so that these trillions of dollars hijacked into offshore cannot be returned by our laws, and we can only bitterly look after them: goodbye to what could work for the country! Mr. Putin, congratulations, you did it!
          I have no doubt that next year you will successfully fill the shortage of money to support your friends and enemies (enemies are just another form of your friends) by milking dry not only small and medium-sized businesses, but already the entire population of the country - judging by upcoming tax scissors. For practice has shown that any improvement in the laws of our country makes the life of an ordinary people even more unbearable.
          1. aybolyt678 29 December 2019 12: 44 New
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            +++ what to do like borozza ???? wassat
          2. Victor N 29 December 2019 16: 50 New
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            Professional tax officials have so far failed to recover taxes from millions of able-bodied Russians who do not officially work or receive part of their salary in envelopes. Such people are known to everyone, this is a mass phenomenon, but it is impossible to convict them of tax evasion. Lukashenko tried, remember how it ended? Moneybags in the USA and Europe did not immediately come to the realization of the need to differentiate tax rates. Digitalization will accelerate the process. But everyone should pay, including ordinary citizens.
            1. Mikheich 29 December 2019 18: 41 New
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              Good wishes ...
            2. 2 Level Advisor 1 January 2020 11: 53 New
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              Isn’t it easier to just remove the payment reasons in envelopes, and not to nod at them all the time, despite the fact that it is only 13 percent?
          3. Aingof 30 December 2019 08: 00 New
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            Look at the story. All this was already 100-150 years ago. There were peasants, only the working class appeared, who paid for the banquet of the nobles and the nascent bourgeoisie (the ruling class). The people lived terribly and demanded, and the elite could not make concessions otherwise it would cease to be an elite (peasants & nobles, land issue). Read the history of the first and second State Duma and their dissolution and what the peasants, workers and even soldiers demanded. Spend prarall now. What will we see oligarchs and officials & people, the crisis + external pressure (100 years ago it was also well, we couldn’t get involved in the WWII) there are not enough resources for everyone, people have questions. The elite cannot make concessions, otherwise it will cease to be an elite (officials stop stealing and start working; the system is built differently; the oligarchs immediately share the issue of privatization), it was not for this that they destroyed the USSR and carried out counter-revolution (an example of the era of Catherine the Great and palace coups). Everyone understands everything from above and below. The birth of a revolutionary situation is not only in Russia but also in the world (Trump is an example of this). The situation will worsen and heat up.
    2. Alien From 29 December 2019 15: 42 New
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      You're right! Our offshores are all ...... with the hard workers put together the last ..... insulting!
    3. LORD-72 30 December 2019 01: 15 New
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      The tax on tax is being considered for a long time ...
    4. Mikheich 2 January 2020 14: 45 New
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      This is apparently social egoism!
  2. kind 29 December 2019 04: 33 New
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    Rejoice that we are writing comments without taxes! fool
    1. Svarog 29 December 2019 08: 31 New
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      Quote: Good
      Rejoice that we are writing comments without taxes! fool

      Ha laughing good Here you are in vain now .. after all, they threw the idea .. there they quickly get such ideas ..
      1. GKS 2111 29 December 2019 09: 43 New
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        It seems that the idea of ​​collecting taxes from the population here draw from here -

        Very similar..
        1. ssergey1978 29 December 2019 10: 16 New
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          didn’t you know?
        2. Blacksmith 55 29 December 2019 13: 48 New
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          For rain in Germany has long been paying taxes (Regensteuer). For smoke the same. Here, some gas stations begin to take over the air, before pumping a wheel was everywhere free.
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    4. Mikheich 2 January 2020 14: 48 New
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      This is for now ...
  3. Same lech 29 December 2019 04: 43 New
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    Taxes are a sore point for our society.
    In addition to taxes for rich and direct taxes on our citizens, the author did not mention indirect taxes, but they are gaining a pretty decent amount.
    In general, we have a strange situation ... the Russian government is categorically against taxation of capital exported .... Medvedev and Putin spoke about this in plain text and I have a question why?
    It seems to be worried about foreign investment in the Russian economy, but this coin has a second side ... investors are very timid and don’t want to invest in long-term projects in Russia ... any crisis in Russia scares them to a heart attack and they quickly reel their fishing rods capitals from our country.
    It is logical to exempt from capital import taxes into Russia but not export ... you can even stretch this process so that there is no damage to our country from a simultaneous mass export of capital.
    Unfortunately, the government’s hopes for the miraculous help of foreign investment are not always justified ... now we have stagnation of the economy and we need other tools to revive it.
    1. Same lech 29 December 2019 04: 48 New
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      In the tax policy of the Russian government, the worst constant change of rules is adversely affecting our society ... you never know which pig Medvedev and the State Duma will put on us and which side to expect a blow.
      1. kepmor 29 December 2019 05: 43 New
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        and not figs to relax the population ... I wanted an easy life ??? ...
        1. Same lech 29 December 2019 05: 49 New
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          and not figs to relax the population ... I wanted an easy life ??? ...

          Not interesting ... it means they can (the State Duma and the government) and we can’t ... they mean the New Year's Eve sausage salami di Felino ... and we have macaroni and soy meat ... that's arrogant.
          1. 30143 29 December 2019 10: 47 New
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            And patriots must be silent and endure! In order not to cast a shadow on the light.
          2. depressant 29 December 2019 11: 49 New
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            The same Lech ...
            But how would the lives of our people change for the better by changing only one norm of tax legislation - to declare small and medium-sized businesses LOCAL! As it was under I.V. Stalin!
            This is when taxes from small and medium enterprises with the exception of a small federal share remain in local budgets. How local managers would stir in search of investments!
            Here, more than once or twice, I whined that there was no democratic beer bar in my village (it was undemocratic - an entrance for my own according to the RECOMMENDATIONS! Whoever they wouldn’t let in!), There are no small bakeries and just dining rooms, there are no house kitchens, there is processing of raw materials. It would seem, why are they not? Give free rein, so our locals would turn around! There are!
            Rummaging through various Internet resources, I found the answer to my question.
            zen.yandex.ru, an article dated December 7, entitled "Why do we have Levsha or Kulibin through one? And still the poor!"
            One of the commentators writes that several years ago he wanted to open a small bakery. He would have spent 100 thousand rubles on equipment, expensive rent, etc. Already a million rubles and six months of ordeals have been submitted for paperwork. And taking into account the substantial part of the documents, he would have to hire a director to keep an eye on everything, a manager to keep his eyes off countless examiners, and also an accountant to keep an eye on the constantly changing tax laws. Such an appendage to production increases the cost of the product by at least 50%, and pay taxes on three employees, and so on. Not to mention the obligatory “give grabbing” to all who require it. It is impossible to compete with the factories producing tasteless and stale bread! So I did not bother.
            But our mayor, instead of kindergarten, almost opened a casino, this is profitable! Yes, our deputies did not.
            Transfer of taxes to local jurisdiction would solve the problems of small and medium-sized businesses, that is, the problems of the entire population of the country. Rapid economic growth would begin. Yes, lobbyists of the oligarchs in the State Duma will not give! They do not need economic growth - the wallets of oligarchs and deputies can already be replenished at the expense of the population, because it has not yet grumble. Till.
            1. aybolyt678 29 December 2019 12: 51 New
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              +++ I agree in almost everything, only here we have many small bakeries, the bakery closed, the trouble is different - all sorts of Low prices, Magnets, CSNs are opened, in short Big shops, with "distant" owners. At the same time, small, local shops go bankrupt and close
            2. Vadim237 29 December 2019 15: 03 New
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              "How local managers would stir in search of investments!" In Russia, the majority of local managers are lazy, they don’t even want to hit finger on finger — projects are hard to draw up, they need to think, justify, and locals don’t care if the light comes and tells and shows what to do or until the journalists they will show on all federal channels, for this more than a trillion rubles for national projects from the total amount allocated from the budget at the beginning of the year are returned to the budget at the end of the year as unspent.
            3. malyvalv 29 December 2019 15: 24 New
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              Our situation is the opposite - small bakeries are ruining the bakery. With small "culinary" is more difficult. Large networkers like Tape and Okey have them. It’s difficult to compete with small ones so far.
            4. Victor N 29 December 2019 16: 56 New
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              And what scope for corruption would open up!
    2. aybolyt678 29 December 2019 12: 48 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      It seems to be worried about foreign investment in the Russian economy, but this coin has a second side ... investors are very timid and don’t want to invest in long-term projects in Russia ...

      from what? they invest in oil and other resources for a rather long time and are not afraid. In general, instead of investments, we need specialists in machine tool construction and sectoral state enterprises with firing squad.
      1. point3d 4 January 2020 05: 37 New
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        With firing squad it will be possible to find those who wish only from slaves at the very bottom, while a professional will never volunteer to work with a muzzle at his temple.
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          a professional, will never volunteer to work with a muzzle at his temple.

          having the honor, will go voluntarily, and the representative of the modern "Elite" is not like a barrel at the temple laughing he just won't work
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            A man of honor will always despise his guard and hate his slave position. Therefore, no, only serfs are suitable and only to pretend to be professional work.
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              That is, specialists must necessarily be dissidents? Necessarily seeks to betray the Homeland, steal more, seeks to work only for himself for personal gain? Can it really be that among specialists there can be people with a civil (not consumer) ideology?
              1. point3d 4 January 2020 18: 47 New
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                Specialists cost a lot of money and demand respect, they deserve it with their mind and knowledge. Work can be liked, work can be sincerely loved, but only slaves work for free. The idea of ​​working exclusively for the welfare of the crowd is an initial failure, since there is nothing meaner, there is nothing more cruel and more ungrateful than the crowd, therefore any good and successful idea that benefits the public is always based solely on selfishness when your personal ambitions (for example, to go down in history as a creator), the welfare of your family and your family. And then, incidentally (of course, if a person remains a person and does not turn into evil spirits), such ideas give society an impetus for climbing the evolutionary ladder with all its attendant benefits.
                These are simple facts from history.
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                  (of course, if a person remains a person and does not turn into evil spirits) such ideas give society a boost

                  smile exactly!! soon you will become completely tame .... As Plato said? - for money you can buy medicine but not health, a bed but not a dream, pleasure but not happiness ......
                  Quote: point3d
                  since there is nothing meaner, there is nothing more cruel and more ungrateful than the crowd

                  what makes a crowd a people? in addition to a common language and territory, there is also ideology. The ideology is now common - consumerism, which crushes people. Therefore, any economic transformation is possible in our country only if there is an acceptable ideology, only it will give a Goal, for the sake of this goal, people will develop and realize their abilities for the benefit of the People! not crowds good and money will not play a major role.
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  5. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 05: 38 New
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    A fair question arises: why is capital so actively withdrawn from it?
    Because businesses can wring out
    1. kepmor 29 December 2019 06: 32 New
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      dissemble ... far from the most important argument ...
      psychology with a worldview at the forefront ...
      thieves' principle in action - here and now, "raise" from the sucker, tomorrow there, "put at their own place." ..
      after 22 years of communicating with the “brothers”, a pattern clearly emerges ... as soon as the “extra fat” appears, immediately 70% of the “brothers in the shop” have an unbridled desire to dump “somewhere” from “this rashka” ... and the loot is still "raise" here ...
      1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 06: 53 New
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        laughing
        There is a desire to blame for the reason I indicated - the presence of a family suggests income stability, business security - respectively. Blame “somewhere” for commerce for 40, accustomed to the human way of life without being a specialist in the world in the narrow field, which is in demand in the world only if there are free 1,5 - 2 lard rubles that can be withdrawn to the West. Without children, of course, easier and more modest amounts. )))
        1. kepmor 29 December 2019 07: 30 New
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          only a few of those overgrown with "fat" really leave ... our mentality does not particularly favor their way of life ... it’s hard for them there - there isn’t that big scope ...
          the bulk remains "tormented" at home ... and so as not to squeeze out anything, they simply transform into "notorious" patriots ... into United Russia ... in the gang it is somehow more comfortable and calmer ...
          1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 07: 51 New
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            Hard there for other reasons - the bureaucracy and FIG agree. The scope there is oh-oh-oh-at least - monetary. If the GDP of the Russian Federation for 2018 amounted to EMNIP, 690 billion tanks, then the expected revenue of one Microsoft in 2019 will be 125,8 billion tanks, the GDP 17 times smaller in Israel’s population is only half that of Russia, and so on.
            Here, yes - many are trying to cling to power or enter some other Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party - but this does not give everyone anything.
            1. kjhg 29 December 2019 13: 04 New
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              Quote: Krasnodar
              Russian GDP for 2018 amounted to EMNIP, 690 billion tanks

              Memory is cheating on you. Russia's budget is about $ 250 billion. GDP - just over $ 1,5 trillion
              1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 14: 02 New
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                fincan.ru/articles/56_vvp-rossii-v-2019-godu/
                690 billion
                There are other data 1, 57 trillion tanks
                1,67 trillion tanks
                Well, let’s budget - 137 billion from Israel
                250 in the Russian Federation
                The population of the first is just over 8 million
                The population of Russia is more than 146 million
                The difference in population is 18 times
                The difference in the budget is less than 2 times
                And again - Gates revenue - 128 billion
            2. Vadim237 29 December 2019 15: 08 New
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              For Microsoft and all other companies, the most important indicator of economic activity was, is and will be - net profit is in the black.
              1. Krasnodar 29 December 2019 15: 31 New
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                This is understandable))
                I mean, the money scale in the West is frantic
                Microsoft's net profit is about 15% of revenue (judging by Linked In)
  6. Paul Siebert 29 December 2019 06: 13 New
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    The country is not ruled by United Russia, not a government led by an iPhone, or even Putin.
    The country is ruled by a dozen ghouls with well-known names that determine the size of tariffs, energy prices and retirement age.
    They are officially forbidden to be called oligarchs. For the media, they are socially responsible businessmen, effective managers.
    For example, the social manager Vekselberg, a specialist in Faberge eggs, through his "Russian communal systems" steers from America the lion's share of the housing and communal services of our country.
    It is through the efforts of the grandmothers in Russian towns and villages that a considerable part of the pension is paid for the maintenance of his suburban villas and yachts. And they themselves eat vermicelli and flabby potatoes.
    He recently appeared in an American publication - he criticized US sanctions imposed on him personally and on his family. I, says, always dreamed of becoming a citizen of a great state, I have the same passport as Trump, so for what, dear ones?
    These people will never pay taxes in our country.
    For them we are garbage. Until we take them by the udder ...
    1. The popuas 29 December 2019 07: 43 New
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      Last year, the video went around the network, electricians came to cut off the power supply network for non-payment, and there the mistress savvy got caught, says I’m crying by the barcode, the money goes to Arkansas .... so, these, they washed, they didn’t slurp it ... wonderful things in Russia mother.
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      Laughed, thanks)))
      Surprisingly, it still works.
  7. rocket757 29 December 2019 08: 03 New
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    What would not be discussed on the topic, all come together at one point "whose power is now"! And then we conclude ..... what?
    1. Paul Siebert 29 December 2019 08: 07 New
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      The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...
      1. rocket757 29 December 2019 08: 09 New
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        Quote: Paul Siebert
        The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...

        This dilemma has been in the air for so many years .... it can’t fall on the ground. We draw conclusions .... what?
        1. 30143 29 December 2019 10: 51 New
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          But there are no proletarians!
    2. Victor N 29 December 2019 09: 38 New
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      Old topic: the culprits have long been appointed, why again sharpen the lasses? After all, no one even tries to determine the reasons for this situation and does not propose real measures to correct the situation. And one desire is not enough. We need to understand: WHY taxes even with a flat scale cannot be collected completely? Surely everyone either himself or knows about cases of tax evasion - this is a mass phenomenon in Russia, not only characteristic of the rich. And to discuss the export of capital in the circle of complete ignoramuses who have never transferred money outside the borders is an empty lesson.
      1. rocket757 29 December 2019 10: 03 New
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        Quote: Victor N
        this is a mass phenomenon in Russia, not only characteristic of the rich.

        Typically, the poor in us are not just MUCH, but the majority! Only there is nothing to take from them, but it’s much EASIER what the authorities do .... because this power is RICH, and they cherish their own.
        Quote: Victor N
        And to discuss the export of capital in the circle of complete ignoramuses who have never transferred money outside the borders is an empty lesson.

        That's it, an empty lesson to expect from those who have something to transfer over the hill, something other than REZRESENIE to others who simply have nothing to forward .... therefore, they get HATE in response and sooner or later it will splash out! And then there will be a big OH!
        1. Reptiloid 29 December 2019 13: 15 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          ..... Typically, the poor in us are not just MUCH, but the majority! Only there is nothing to take from them, but it’s much EASIER what the authorities do .... because this power is RICH, and they cherish their own and cherish ...... OH!
          So, Victor, but not really. We thought, thought and figured out how to take a million from every poor person. In general, from each. In the present and future. Pension for 5 years was postponed.
          1. rocket757 29 December 2019 13: 23 New
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            Dmitriy soldier .
            There is nothing to take from the poor, this is certainly relative. There is something to take from any working person. We got to retirement, that's completely mess ...
            This is such a power.
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              Quote: rocket757
              Dmitriy soldier .
              There is nothing to take from the poor, this is certainly relative. There is something to take from any working person. We got to retirement, that's completely mess ...
              This is such a power.

              Even when it seems that there is nothing, you can always find resources, so to speak. Yes, the poor person will find them himself. It is enough to put him in extremely difficult conditions, or on the brink of survival of himself or his children. And you don’t need to develop anything, you don’t need to think and fight theft of state property, press the majority, after all, 90%, after all. The last sentence is sarcasm, Victor
              1. rocket757 29 December 2019 19: 07 New
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                Yes, the poor man will find them himself.

                Poor person on the verge of survival READY for extreme actions and for survival too.
                There is no one to talk about conscience at the top, but there is a sense of self-preservation ... they don’t step over the edge, everything is very thought out, ready to rebound, if that. Bottoms are not ready to go ahead! Looks like there is something to lose, for now.
                1. Reptiloid 29 December 2019 19: 17 New
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                  When I wrote that "" the poor man will find "himself, I meant that I would do what I was used to — to cut costs in different directions, to take loans, maybe to reduce the living space ...... Or something else.
                  I recall the expression ----dead hand right. .This is in France, under absolutism ----- the right to take away everything the seigneur wants from the peasant, even if this leads to the death of the vassal or his family
                  1. rocket757 29 December 2019 19: 23 New
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                    Not the middle ages. Then the sociability has greatly increased and some of the offended, who are lucky, can get a wave of "popular anger".
                    Why the top run into every little thing? They mostly prefer.
                    1. Reptiloid 29 December 2019 19: 32 New
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                      Quote: rocket757
                      ..... Why should the top run into every little thing? They mostly prefer.
                      recharge is needed constantly. Because no matter how much you grab ---- everything is not enough negative negative
        2. Victor N 29 December 2019 17: 10 New
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          There is no fundamental difference between a tourist exporting currency, a simple citizen who wants to keep his savings in a bank in Switzerland, a “wicked citizen”, a businessman buying a tea plantation! They have the right to dispose of OWN funds at their discretion. Do not rush to judge strictly, the reality is more complicated than it seems to us.
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            About all of the above, there is no conversation from the word ABSOLUTELY.
            A certain category of defaulters is discussed, nothing more.
    3. aybolyt678 29 December 2019 12: 54 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      What would not be discussed on the topic, all come together at one point "whose power is now"! And then we conclude ..... what?

      the conclusion is that we will say - be war! sad
      1. rocket757 29 December 2019 13: 06 New
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        To be or not to be? That is the question!
        It is necessary to see according to whose learning events will develop.
        1. cniza 29 December 2019 14: 02 New
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          No, enough wars and revolutions, Russia can’t stand it anymore ...
          1. depressant 29 December 2019 15: 01 New
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            Cniza, in addition to wars and revolutions, there is still a division of the territory. A man, preoccupied with his own poverty, will think: why not? After all, we thought that the division of the USSR would save the Russian Federation from "parasites". Maybe that's why she, this sharing, has turned out. I am afraid that thirsty for their own Khanty, kingdoms, Buddhists and kingdoms lead to this. Poverty, it sweeps out of consciousness the pride of a common, great-sized power, settling in it, as the main idea, a miserable hope for "better, less, better." Controversy between people.
            We are not aware of the true motives of imperious behavior.
            1. cniza 29 December 2019 16: 04 New
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              This happened at all times, and here they also help from outside and very seriously.
              1. rocket757 29 December 2019 19: 11 New
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                The motives are always the same, MONEY and POWER!
                And with external kings / rulers local, they can always agree ....
                1. cniza 29 December 2019 20: 08 New
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                  Yeah, there are a lot of kings, but there are not enough countries ...
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                    Yeah, there are a lot of kings, but there are not enough countries ...

                    Yes, spiders in the bank, if there are not enough flies, they only grunt each other.
  8. parusnik 29 December 2019 08: 06 New
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    The problem is about the pool and two pipes ... It flows through the narrow, through the wide it flows ... laughing
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      Through the narrow flows, through the wide flows ...

      If ... It flows out through oil and gas pipes, through offshore registrations, through corruption ties and banks ... And what does not have time to leak out - spreads out at all so as not to go on strike and mouths not open wide ...
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        And people got hooked on loan apartments, cars, etc. In another way, just do not buy it all. But the patriots are yelling about clogged parking lots. They created the appearance of a sweet carrot, but in fact, people are simply in slavery. He took a mortgage, and became very dependent on the employer.
    2. Reptiloid 29 December 2019 13: 01 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      The problem is about the pool and two pipes ... It flows through the narrow, through the wide it flows ... laughing

      recourse There are also illegal taps. request Water discharge so to speak
  9. GenNick 29 December 2019 08: 32 New
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    Quote: rocket757
    Quote: Paul Siebert
    The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...

    This dilemma has been in the air for so many years .... it can’t fall on the ground. We draw conclusions .... what?

    So the ghost still doesn’t roam Europe ...
    1. pv1005 29 December 2019 09: 41 New
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      Quote: GenNick
      Quote: rocket757
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...

      This dilemma has been in the air for so many years .... it can’t fall on the ground. We draw conclusions .... what?

      So the ghost still doesn’t roam Europe ...

      Not that ghost has gone now, oh not that!
      1. Freeman 29 December 2019 20: 21 New
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        Quote: pv1005
        Quote: GenNick
        Quote: rocket757
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...

        This dilemma has been in the air for so many years .... it can’t fall on the ground. We draw conclusions .... what?

        So the ghost still doesn’t roam Europe ...

        Not that ghost has gone now, oh not that!


        Of course!



        Threat. That's how we live...
        wassat
    2. Victor N 29 December 2019 09: 41 New
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      Already fermented.
  10. Brigadier 29 December 2019 09: 22 New
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    "Do you still have doubts that the first representatives in Russia will be able to circumvent the law on a progressive taxation scale just by him, the business elite, by the best representatives? "

    No longer.
    Vova, Dima and their "colleagues" already know well ... what no angry
  11. Snail N9 29 December 2019 10: 08 New
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    The picture with the top managers is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. I will add this one:

    And now, by the way, a picture from the Crocodile magazine, in my opinion No. 10 for 1956 or 1959 (forgotten). Does it remind you of anything ?:
    1. 75 Sergey 29 December 2019 10: 27 New
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      The crisis, that's why income has increased slightly.
      But didn’t they guys, what did you conclude a gold contract for gas supply to Ukraine?
      Yes, they cost Russia more than Ukraine and Belarus combined.
    2. freddyk 29 December 2019 12: 00 New
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      Quote: Snail N9
      here, by the way, the picture from the magazine "Crocodile", in my opinion No. 10 for 1956 or 1959 (forgotten). Does it remind you of anything ?:

      Very :-) So I in the 90s, 00s was engaged in car repair. And then "managers" came to me
    3. Servisinzhener 30 December 2019 10: 09 New
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      The management apparatus of 1500 people becomes self-sufficient and does not need a control object.
  12. 75 Sergey 29 December 2019 10: 24 New
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    Started for health, and finished for the rest!
    To compare the taxation of different countries, it is necessary that the taxation systems are similar, i.e. comparing Russia and Germany, you can also compare the ass and the finger.
    Why the Union was rich, because it ruled everything and did not have any accounts in the offshore companies, now oligarchs reign in everything and what used to go to the state treasury now goes into the pocket of certain noble people (privatization is a way to legally rob illiterate people).
    Business had to be allowed to develop in light industry, and even then not everywhere.
    1. aybolyt678 29 December 2019 12: 59 New
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      Business needed to be allowed to grow in light industry,

      but no one forbids. Only here is the exchange rate set in such a way that whatever you produce, buying abroad is still cheaper! laughing
    2. Vadim237 29 December 2019 15: 15 New
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      "Why the Union was rich" - Because everyone in it was equally poor.
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        Because everyone in him was equally poor.

        And besides galoshes, they could not afford anything. See Putin V.V. "Complete collection of direct lines and press conferences"
        1. Vadim237 29 December 2019 20: 24 New
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          Alas, in conditions of scarcity, the Soviet citizen could not shout, well, except perhaps: ministers, guards, restaurant directors and many others whose social circle was ordered as an ordinary worker.
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      If the union was rich, why were there problems with even the most primitive things and the ban on going to see how capitalism decays there?
  13. samarin1969 29 December 2019 10: 36 New
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    A good article for those who like to savor, that the Russian Federation “defeated” someone or “accomplished something”. This is not reality, but simply a “smoke break” for trolls. ... Even the “10 famous names” are just errand boys for the “world behind the scenes”. And the "official decor of the authorities" simply "performs representative functions" ...

    ps In more reasonable times, they could bring the Fuggers to poverty, and destroy the Temple. And now? Our whole policy is accounting! bully
    1. depressant 29 December 2019 12: 22 New
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      Right! 64 bankers rule the world. Rockefeller and Rothschild clan. Including rule us, and all of our "rulers" run errands at them. One of Gazprom's top managers is going to marry one of the younger Rockefellers. At the request of the future husband will take his last name. So the secret becomes clear.
      And so that we do not blather, the atomic bomb shock begins. Just a little - “enemy at the gate”! Yes, even so. What does the enemy have to do with the fact that on New Year's I was left without money, and even with a debt of a thousand? Because MOSOBLEYRTS twice took from me in October and November. For gas, electricity, overhaul, locking device, television and gas equipment maintenance. To stop the "enemy" at the gates with my money and not let him go further? It turns out like this.
      I'll go even turn on the TV, or something, since I’ve overpaid so much. I listen to how the enemy climbs through the gate, and the MOSOBLEYRTS shakes my nose in front of his nose, and the enemy stunned and even scared retreats before the formidable greatness of the tax service of Russia.
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        Everyone complains about the lack of money, but about the lack of intelligence - no one))
  14. Ryaruav 29 December 2019 11: 50 New
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    creatures in power that they want to do something
  15. Vovan 29 December 2019 12: 20 New
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    only now the "government" would definitely replace the "president" ...
    Neither Dimon nor his whipping boys in this country are anyone and there is no way to call them ..

    Apparently, studying the materiel is not fate - there are FOUR fundamental errors and TWO fundamental errors for 23 words. And these people now complain that they are turned on whatever they want.
    1. depressant 29 December 2019 12: 47 New
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      Vovan, but I'm still waiting for Vadim273 to appear demanding to sign a petition in defense of the actions of the current government.
      Vadim 237, oooh!
      No answer...
      And it doesn’t exist because from next year the taxation on imputation, patent and trade fee will be increased by 4,9%. If you have no more than 130 workers and income no more than 200 million, then you can stay on the simplified.
      And entrepreneur Vadim has 200 workers! Here and there is no Vadim in this forum - he, the defender of the current state of things, is not up to it. Entrepreneur Vadim is now seriously concerned: he thinks which of his 70 employees to start paying in envelopes, showing those employees laid off, and how to bring inappropriate off-the-shelf surplus income.
      1. Vadim237 29 December 2019 15: 25 New
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        These 4,9% have long been laid down in the cost of products and services for me - I won’t offend anyone, I won’t cut anyone down, and hitting offshore by the local authorities can happen at any time and on property abroad.
  16. Uran53 29 December 2019 12: 38 New
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    I have always been interested in the question: why do oligarchs need so much money, despite the fact that they spend only on themselves? After all, they provided themselves with everything they could, as well as several generations in advance. And after all, they need more and more. But where? In the other world, they still will not come in handy (fortunately, there are other values). And they also do not add happiness, it is enough to recall the history of the Demidovs.
    1. depressant 29 December 2019 13: 27 New
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      Uran53, and this is in order not to lose the position on the Forbes list. After all, this position allows them to position themselves as servants of banking capital that has taken over the planet, that is, necessary to that. Obviously, those who are not on the list are not protected from financial destruction. So they are trying to pull out as much of Russia as possible while it is possible. To guaranteed to survive. And this “bye” lasts and lasts. Suggestors easily manage to keep this “for now” in our country, because the bifurcation point has been passed. The beast gained such power that it is unlikely to succeed in removing them democratically. They will squeeze us, making them unnecessary in the territory of their feeding. Taxes are one way.
    2. AU Ivanov. 29 December 2019 17: 25 New
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      Why do oligarchs need money? This is their tool. To make investments, trading on the exchange, etc.
  17. Vovan 29 December 2019 12: 38 New
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    The article is a custom trashak for warming up lemongues: almost in every paragraph there is enchanting nonsense or logical juggling. Examples:
    In addition, in Russia, even for holders of “free billions,” there still remains a serious risk of falling under the grindstone of a showdown by law enforcement agencies. Which, incidentally, happened with the same Zakharchenko and Arashukov. Yes, and with the former Minister of the open government Abyzov, too.

    Well, it’s necessary to write down explicit thieves to the holders of “free billions,” and the realization of the howl that is here on the forum - corruption to the answer! - lead to a showdown of the power organs! And after that, comments about the fact that no one Abyzov did not call him anymore were surprised, and the president was to blame for demanding that such owners be judged.
    But even with a flat taxation scale, our fiscal authorities could and, in fact, should collect much more into the treasury than now. A number of economists believe that fees should simply be many times more. Although not with such meager salaries as there are in Russia now, especially in the public sector.

    That’s real, the authors “Aleksey Podymov, Anatoly Ivanov, Doctor of Economics, professor“ should decide - either “they should have collected a lot more into the treasury,” or “Although not from the meager salaries that Russia has now , especially in the public sector, "or" Customers in the updated offices of the local branches of the Federal Tax Service are often ready to almost shoot themselves in front of everyone. "
  18. faterdom 29 December 2019 12: 44 New
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    Taxes from the oligarchs can be successfully collected by someone who can, without flinching, and in spite of the "childhood friendship" send them to sew mittens, and refrain from pardoning them for some holiday.
    They are tough and serious people - therefore they will take serious actions seriously. Who will deal with political bullying - that is generally overboard!
  19. NordUral 29 December 2019 13: 24 New
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    As long as THESE are in power and in the country, the system is feudal - all this is empty talk about nothing.
  20. depressant 29 December 2019 13: 56 New
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    Or here is a beneficence in favor of a simplified woman.
    A simplified entrepreneur who uses an online cash register will be spared ALL of reporting. Information from sales will go directly to the tax office, and tax will be calculated there ...
    Is this a new way to strip a small entrepreneur? "In no case do not make calculations in your books! We will calculate everything for you! And we will take such a tax that you will howl!" They will charge the tax they like, and run the entrepreneur, prove that he is not a camel. That he did not have such income. Here's how I got a flat tax on gas, electricity, etc. — twice for October and twice for November. Go, prove that you paid as it should. Entrepreneurs will go crazy, all will be damned!
    Such is the offensive of the ruling class on the people.
  21. Vadim237 29 December 2019 14: 05 New
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    The author mixed up the name of the chart. Capital outflow from Russia
    with the second schedule it will be more less clear what came and what went
  22. Vadim237 29 December 2019 14: 30 New
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    "It is she who, like little else, clearly characterizes the very" open position "of the Russian oligarchs, who for some three decades have plucked 90 percent of the national wealth under themselves." Can you give a clear explanation of what "National wealth" is and how it is measured - is it money, property, some volumes of natural resources, land, architectural monuments? Because the state of all Russian billionaires is $ 450 billion worth of movable and immovable property, the cost of fixed assets in Russia is 160 trillion rubles, not counting the hundreds and thousands of trillions of rubles of property owned and not movable owned by 146 million people living in Russia. Even if we take into account the cost of fixed assets - as national wealth - 90% in the ownership of the oligarchs does not work out well, since 450 billion is 29 trillion rubles - and the cost of fixed assets is 160 trillion rubles.
    1. depressant 29 December 2019 15: 34 New
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      Vadim, dear, here you are!
      Hello! )))
      Now, until people come with numbers that refute yours, I’ll explain something to you. We are all here fighting for you, understand? For you!
      So far we've got taxes to every "little thing", and then we will get to you. And until this happens, we are fighting for you.
      I understand that your business is connected with Atommash and the military commissar, because the situation obliges you to act as a troll that does not agree with us, otherwise "some" will not understand and frown.
      But the old days, in which it was still possible to breathe small and medium-sized businesses and somehow the civilian population (we seem to be at war with the aggressor), are passing away, and the direction of the new is already clear. You will find yourself under the press. What I do not wish you.
      1. Vadim237 29 December 2019 16: 06 New
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        I won’t find myself under the press and don’t have to fight for me, I’m refunded VAT as the exporter for the third year, there is a significant financial anti-crisis pillow, there is profit from the services of the repair base, car services, farmers in the Volgograd and Astrakhan regions, investments in blue chips, sometimes stock market game rates for oil and precious metals. But small and medium-sized businesses in Russia suffer in large part because of large rents, with taxes we have, and so on, 40–60 percent tax fraud can still be shod - but the landlord is gone.
        1. depressant 29 December 2019 17: 52 New
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          Vadim, speaking of you, I, of course, spoke in general. You are just a convenient way to analyze the situation. But how many small and medium-sized entrepreneurs do not have access to export! Here they are crushed by taxes.
          Or is it to take taxes on the earnings of pensioners and disabled people with the obligatory registration of employees for tax accounting? Ah, do you get 8 thousand rubles a month at a kiosk? Get registered and pay! Otherwise, the penalty is 20 and higher ...
          I could understand the state if Putin’s national projects were rapidly translated into reality. I suppose everyone would understand. But, firstly, the national projects themselves, besides the military, raise big questions, and secondly, the oligarchs and other businesses do not rush to implement them - they only withdraw money to offshore. For the reasons that are already indicated on this forum.
          So it turns out that business pays people a little, the state squeezes a little of national projects out of the population, therefore, out of business, and then enterprises created according to nat. projects become the property of the same business, and people will not have a relationship to the created. We all will not have. Because we are all here the creators of "Notes of an outsider."
          1. Vadim237 29 December 2019 20: 35 New
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            We will wait until the completion of national projects by May decrees in the 2024th - then we will see what 13 trillion from the budget and 13 trillion investments from business have been spent on and how much percent this will all be done. In the meantime, some large projects completed, under construction and planned in Russia can be viewed here https://ruxpert.ru
            1. Karabin 29 December 2019 20: 57 New
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              Quote: Vadim237
              We will wait for the completion of national projects according to the May decrees in the 2024th -

              Vadim, in the 24th, you will wait for something in the 35th. About national projects, just as now about the "2020 strategy" prefer to forget.
              1. Vadim237 30 December 2019 13: 30 New
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                I won’t wait for anything - in the 2024th Putin will leave, and there the results of everything will be announced, including national projects.
  23. polar fox 29 December 2019 15: 24 New
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    and I’m interested in the authors, they don’t understand or don’t know that all these FIUs, Federal Tax Service, Federal Social Insurance Service, the police are private offices with assets abroad? not a single “law” adopted by the State Duma is legitimate from the word “completely”? what taxes can be in a “state” that has no money (there are bills with signs of the ruble), there is no legitimate authority (all practically self-appointed), but Is there a bunch of beggars with big names? The country endured, and nothing more.
  24. LORD-72 30 December 2019 01: 16 New
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    When laws are passed by thieves ...
    1. Vadim237 30 December 2019 13: 34 New
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      The law on the confiscation of property of corrupt officials was passed a year ago, it already confiscated property worth 24 billion rubles - something does not fit this with your "When laws take the thief"
      1. LORD-72 10 January 2020 12: 54 New
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        1) Drop the link to this law.
        2) How does one contradict the other ?!
        3) The drawing itself.

        4) One thief cannot steal from another thief ?!
  25. Dedok 30 December 2019 09: 09 New
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    In the fairy tale about Chippolino, the phrase sounded: "... we introduced the air tax - so you stopped breathing normally ...", and the Soviet joke: "... we will soon pay for the air .."
  26. TokarevT 30 December 2019 17: 21 New
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    Nooo, these are not taxes in Russian.
    These are judaicus taxes for Russians, for it is Russians who basically have nowhere to hide.
    Is it in vain that Sholomov heads the Hasidic administration in the country?
  27. Comrade Kim 30 December 2019 19: 51 New
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    Quote: GKS 2111
    The Russian government is discussing a draft tax on parasitism. The next step is the tax on illness, tax on injury and tax on death. Well, and tax tax.

    This is normal. See the story about the new bunch tax!
    For some reason, these dismal attempts by lawmakers are no longer surprising.
    I recalled an attempt to enter stomp tax.

    Redrawed under Yeltsin's Basic Law, get it!
    The owners of life own subsoil, factories, banks.
    Even the Central Bank cannot independently print rubles.
    Money from the NWF (the documents of the Ministry of Finance clearly indicate that the NWF funds are used to provide pensions to Russian citizens) will now be used to buy Sber from the Central Bank.
    Two years ago, the state collapsed 1 trillion. rubles from the NWF to Otkritie Bank.




    Fart Tax!

  28. Ua3qhp 30 December 2019 21: 24 New
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    Here, more than once or twice, I whined about the fact that in my village there is no democratic beer bar

    I don’t know, but in Voronezh private shops selling beer from private breweries are growing like mushrooms.
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    Agalarov added that he is observing good administration by the tax authorities: tax collection is growing, and the load on Russians in this area is quite high. The businessman noted that if earlier the tax burden could be compensated for by incomplete payment, now it becomes impossible. “And next year everyone will understand that the tax burden that is stipulated by the legislation is impossible and something needs to be done with it. And the sooner they pay attention to this - that the tax burden needs to be reduced - the better the results will be, ”Agalarov concluded.

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/society/02/01/2020/5e0df8989a794727840fa831