Taxes in Russian: whoever didn’t hide is to blame

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Russia is a country of contrasts


One of the oligarchs (now deceased) once said about domestic business: "Taxes in this country are paid only by fools." By all indications, it is precisely this principle that continues to adhere to today absolutely all the sharks of Russian business that are still alive.

Back in the 90s, they tried to instill the psychology of deviators to everyone who had to deal with entrepreneurial activity in one way or another. Retirement and commission, kickbacks and lateral, finally, salaries in envelopes - all this, as you know, is not at all a thing of the past. Much has only acquired a slightly more civilian form.



The general public has developed a persistent tax nihilism, which becomes stronger the more often someone has to visit the tax authorities. The situation at the reception offices of the Federal Tax Service (Federal Tax Service) has not changed for the better since the introduction of automation and the notorious “single window”.

Customers in the updated offices of local branches of the Federal Tax Service are often ready to almost shoot themselves in front of everyone. Although those wishing to “help” with taxes even in the most remote corner of the vast country are always abundant. “Help,” of course, for a modest reward. So modest that you can give half of the business, and even more.

At the same time, various kinds of "protection" from the side of the "sympathetic" representatives of one or another power agency only leads to an even greater increase in the amount that you have to give for the right itself and continue to do its own thing.

But taxpayers are cunning people - practically everything has learned to count quite well. And almost all of them are embarrassed by federal statistics, which tells them only that they are the ones who overpay the state, while all the others are underpayments.


It is unlikely to be very inspiring for honest calculations with the treasury and another interesting, but very unfamiliar figure from the series “What Rosstat Does Not Know”. This is a statistical report of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation entitled “International Investment Position of the Russian Federation”. It carefully analyzes the ratio of assets and international obligations of our country.

From this by no means a secret document, one can learn at least what the sum of Russian foreign assets is, which someone did not quite correctly call the "open position" of our big business, by analogy with the exchange term.

This deliberate terminological error can be completely forgiven, since it allows us to understand that there are also “closed positions”. So, the “open position” of capital exporters who are Russian residents in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation was estimated at 1,3 trillion dollars. How big are the “closed positions”, and it’s scary to imagine.

Taxes in Russian: whoever didn’t hide is to blame

“And now, and now hid ...”


Already a little forgotten line from the BG cycle (Boris Grebenshchikov) about the old man Kozlodoev, first widely sounded in the cult "Ass", we decided to remind for a reason. It is she who, like little else, clearly characterizes the very “open position” of the Russian oligarchs, who for some three decades have plucked 90 percent of the national wealth under themselves.

We have to admit that this is a kind of "inner circle", from among those ranked and close to the current power elite. Well, those same “windows of individual apartments” from the BG song are offshore, where our and you, dear readers, are hidden, billions and trillions. They brought, bring and, it seems, will bring their current holders a stable profit for a long time to come.

Not the biggest, but not less than 5 percent per annum - that's for sure. But it is not the interest that matters, the amount with which they run is important. These amounts can be imagined even in terms of the scale of capital outflows from Russia, although this is only the tip of the iceberg. There, the bill goes to tens of billions of dollars and trillions of rubles. Think trillions!


Is it worth explaining that even 13 percent of this profit does not want to pay anyone from the "inner circle". Yes, no one pays, because they do not seriously ask anyone. The expropriation that the power structures did with Colonel Zakharchenko or Senator Arashukov cannot be considered a really serious debriefing. There are billions of them and the name “the tip of the iceberg” will not turn around.


Not so long ago, the newly appointed, or rather, nominated to the secretary of the Public Chamber Valery Fadeev, one of the founding fathers of the business magazine "Expert", made a reservation about how much the rich households underpaid taxes to the federal treasury. It seems not so much - 500 billion rubles.

How much they should pay, Fadeev, an experienced journalist and part-time authoritative United Russia, did not bother to say. Or no one counted for him. Nevertheless, Fadeev needs to say “thank you” for the fact that he managed to notice the “huge potential” in collecting taxes from those very wealthy households.

Yes, collecting 500 billion from the rich is not an easy task. And is that not why Fadeev’s colleagues in the ruling party, over and over again, are letting go of the idea of ​​a progressive taxation scale. In parallel with this, taking care to tear off the sticky self-employed - nurses and hairdressers, tutors and private computer masters.

No "progress"


Plans to tax the "fat cats" have arisen more than once. The idea that the rich should pay more is very popular in society. Of the latest ideas, a generally modest proposal seemed to be quite acceptable to tax a salary of over 18 million rubles (2%).

However, a sound idea does not find understanding among our legislators. Although among them, it seems, no one earns more than 2 million. Many deputies and senators have better incomes, but judging by tax returns, they pay for all this, as they say, in full.

Many economists rightly consider the progressive taxation scale a powerful reserve for replenishing the budget. It is used in most countries that have recorded themselves on the list of civilized ones. In Germany, many have to pay more than 40 percent of any type of income. A flat scale is considered the norm for states with offshore jurisdiction. In this sense, Russia is an absolutely indisputable offshore.


A fair question arises: why is capital so actively withdrawn from it? And because in other offshore companies it is quite possible to pay even less, or even not pay anything. In addition, in Russia, even for holders of “free billions,” there still remains a serious risk of falling under the grindstone of a showdown of power agencies. Which, incidentally, happened with the same Zakharchenko and Arashukov. Yes, and with the former Minister of the open government Abyzov, too.

But even with a flat taxation scale, our fiscal authorities could and, in fact, should collect much more into the treasury than now. A number of economists believe that fees should simply be many times more. Although not with such meager salaries as there are in Russia now, especially in the public sector.

And if it was only an unbelievably low salary. After all, those same 13 percent are not paid at all by ordinary office plankton representatives and civil servants, but by the owners of the largest capital and the recipients of the largest salaries and other types of remuneration. For example, from among the top managers of all the largest Russian companies, starting with Gazprom, Sberbank and Rosneft.


All this audience, by the way, also prefers settlements through offshore companies, with minimal taxation. And no laws on deoffshorization are a decree for them. However, even if there is a decree, then there’s practically no use from them. These laws were adopted five years ago in the form of amendments to the tax code, and were widely advertised.

Not to say that they do not work at all. They work, but by no means at the address - those who really should have been pushed out of the offshore are not pushed by tax amendments. One can judge this by this example: in 2019, Russia for the first time demanded a report on the so-called controlled foreign companies. But no more than 4 percent of them reported.

The rest didn’t even think about reporting - the business elite actually didn’t give a damn about the beautiful amendments to the Tax Code. Do you still have doubts that the best representatives will be able to circumvent the law on a progressive taxation scale in Russia?
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  1. +65
    29 December 2019 04: 24
    "Do you still have doubts that the first representatives in Russia will be able to circumvent the law on a progressive taxation scale just by him, the business elite, by the best representatives?"
    The government rejects a progressive income tax scale, citing the fact that it will not be able to control taxpayers. Tax paradox! They will be able to control millions of unemployed and self-employed, while several thousand oligarchs will not.
    The Russian government is discussing a draft tax on parasitism. The next step is the tax on illness, tax on injury and tax on death. Well, and tax tax.
    1. +61
      29 December 2019 04: 51
      that's right ... only now, "government" would definitely be replaced by "president" ...
      neither Dimon nor his whipping boys in this country are anyone and there is no way to call them ...
      everyone is ruled by 2 organized crime groups ... Ozerkovskie and family ... with one looking at the "zone" ...
      1. +54
        29 December 2019 05: 23
        Quote: kepmor
        only now the "government" would definitely be replaced by the "president" ...

        Everything is correct. I will add too.
        If only it was taxes! The point is in illegal incomes, and in corruption, and in elections without a choice, and in mocking laws, and in courts, and in the prosecutor's office, etc., etc.
        All of the above comes from the power itself. Therefore, none of these problems can be solved for so many years. And will not succeed! The existing power itself, while it is at the helm, will not allow this. It is, in fact, hard to admit for yourself. But it needs to be done.
        1. +38
          29 December 2019 05: 38
          all of the above is organized crime ...
          although there is an organized criminal group in every country ... but there are also countries that actually "belong" to the organized criminal group ...
          Unfortunately, Russia is in this shameful list of leading positions ...
          1. +27
            29 December 2019 08: 29
            Quote: kepmor
            although there is an organized criminal group in every country ... but there are also countries that actually "belong" to the organized criminal group ...

            The organized crime group is running the show now .. I wonder .. they have everything, they have already provided great-grandchildren .. until? Have you really lost the feeling of self-preservation completely? in my staircase again, paper of debtors for housing and communal services was hung out .. I'm in shock .. 10 apartments, debts above 200 tons .. on average 40 tons .. for housing and communal services .. People simply will soon have nothing to pay ...
            1. +3
              29 December 2019 17: 17
              We also have such paper hanging with debts for utilities. All as one wealthy people. And vice versa - pensioners pay carefully.
            2. -2
              30 December 2019 15: 09
              What can you do with them? What are you ready for? And are you ready?
            3. +4
              30 December 2019 15: 37
              Regarding the sense of self-preservation.
              No, it is not lost in them, it is actively knocking in their minds.
              It is from this incessant knock so methodically and consistently:
              1. Laws similar to the law on insulting power are passed.
              2. Migrants are brought in to the country in batches, so as to throw them against you and your children on occasion.
              3. Russians are ousted from key areas related to national security, being replaced by the same migrants. "Topilin's list" is a good example.
              4. Russians are marginalized in the media.
              5 First of all, for the Russians, a full-fledged system of health care and education is being rolled up under various pretexts, against which the Russians are purposefully and consistently plunged by those who are in power into a situation of increasingly acute social ill-being.
              No, the "elites" remember and do everything to destroy by any means those who can present the right to demand ...
              And what can you do about them in this situation?
              What are you ready for?
              And are you ready?
              The trouble is that it will only get worse, because appetite comes with eating, and impunity, as you know, breeds permissiveness!
            4. +5
              30 December 2019 15: 53
              Add here another CHURCH, working for power already on the spiritual front and calling on this background to even deeper humility and humility: the judaicus god there will especially take care of those who die quietly here and doom their children to it, giving to the sons of Israel and their shabesham unquestioningly everything that has or may have.
              1. +1
                4 January 2020 05: 25
                Cool, the Romans and Greeks are authors, but still, the Jews are to blame again)))
                1. 0
                  5 January 2020 12: 52
                  Do you not know that we always do such things with the wrong hands.
          2. -24
            29 December 2019 09: 01
            The author teased readers - counted. That's just essentially nothing said: HOW TO collect taxes? And the problem was always and everywhere, but never was completely solved by anyone.
            1. +33
              29 December 2019 09: 49
              Quote: Victor N
              The author teased readers - counted. That's just essentially nothing said: HOW TO collect taxes? AND the problem was always and everywhere, but never by anyone has not been completely resolved.

              Oh, these generalizations! Well, where without them! The standard hater trick is never outdated. As soon as the author raises a painful topic for Russia. There is also a "patriot" who screams indignantly that this is "always and everywhere like this", well, like an absolutely normal situation and generally and there is no problem. And then comes the demagogic - well, what would you suggest?
              1. +5
                29 December 2019 14: 45
                Unfortunately this article is for one day - the topic was raised and safely forgotten. The efficiency is 0.
              2. +5
                30 December 2019 09: 12
                Now patriots will come out on a salary. will prove with foam at the mouth that everything is wrong.
            2. +10
              29 December 2019 10: 55
              Good morning to everyone and Happy New Year.
              We all love the Motherland and not so much the State, because it taxes us.
              In the USA, for example, non-payment or tax evasion is punished very strictly.
              In Germany, the tax depends on the tax class. The largest taxes are paid by the first (unmarried) and fourth (married) classes. A family in total tax class should always be 8, 4 + 4, 3 + 5, 5 + 3.
              Spouses themselves choose one of three options. At the same time, the third class is the most preferential, and even making very big money, you can pay a small tax.
              But everyone is obliged to submit a tax return, and God forbid the Ministry of Finance finds something, doesn’t seem enough, they don’t joke with him. Already many millionaires have been in jail.
              It is necessary to control declarations more strictly, and naturally respond.
              1. -12
                29 December 2019 16: 33
                There are too many defaulters in Russia - there aren’t enough places for imprisonment. There are no states without taxes, and never have been. And we can’t do without the state, therefore we must pay. And this should become the norm of public morality - non-payment - it is obscene how to crap at the entrance to the entrance. And the legislation will be toughened up gradually, as the possibilities of control over execution increase.
                1. +9
                  29 December 2019 23: 22
                  As a result of the benefits provided by the government to Rosneft in 2019, the real (effective) mineral extraction tax is reduced in relation to 2018.

                  Gazprom has a similar situation. But the rest - the LAW.
                  1. +3
                    30 December 2019 00: 54
                    Even millionaires are offended completely
                    1. +4
                      30 December 2019 02: 07
                      Quote: OldMichael
                      Even millionaires are offended completely

                      Riot on the ship? Igor Arkadevich put a little more in his little bottle.
            3. +1
              29 December 2019 14: 43
              As in the USA - by draconian methods, just try not to pay the tax there, you will get a huge fine, and also sit down for another year and don’t care who you are a millionaire or an ordinary worker.
              1. -6
                30 December 2019 11: 08
                Honestly, your USA is tired of as an example ... In them, if you do not know, there is a very small group of super-rich gentlemen who control the Fed's printing press, who carefully monitor that someone does not pick up the size of wealth to them. Therefore, tax laws are followed there in such draconian ways to thin out competitors, on the one hand, and on the other hand, money will not be redundant to the budget either, because those who control the printing press control budget flows.
                1. 0
                  30 December 2019 13: 26
                  The richest people in the world live in the USA - and they have nothing to do with the printing press.
                  1. +2
                    31 December 2019 00: 05
                    The richest people in the world live in the USA - and they have nothing to do with the printing press.
                    Are you seriously? Do not tell me, then why are they so rich?
                    1. +4
                      2 January 2020 17: 06
                      What do geniuses of the IT industry have Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak. Which of them is engaged in printing dough?
                    2. 0
                      4 January 2020 05: 30
                      To understand why they are rich, you first need to understand how it is possible to create and implement something without the order of the boss.
          3. +1
            29 December 2019 10: 44
            Not organized crime groups, but the Mafia!
          4. 0
            29 December 2019 10: 46
            Announce the entire list, please. At least a couple of ratings from serious agencies ...
          5. -13
            29 December 2019 14: 39
            If we were in the leading positions, we would not have fought corruption at all and wouldn’t have planted anyone, had the Ulyukaevs gone free, all the stealing governors, publicans, and security officials Zakharchenko would not have sat the same way and would not have confiscated property.
        2. +9
          29 December 2019 12: 41
          Quote: kjhg
          It is, in fact, hard to admit for yourself. But it needs to be done.

          what you are talking about is called a revolution! Many consider social ownership of the means of production the main sign of socialism. This is not true. Public ownership is not a sign, it is a way of distributing material goods. The progressive tax scale is exactly the same way. That is, the progressive tax scale is a step towards socialism, and this is another social system that encroaches on the sacred cow of the current government - Private ownership of wells, pipes and banks! .....
        3. 0
          29 December 2019 18: 36
          So what awaits us in the end ??
      2. +33
        29 December 2019 07: 50
        There was such an anecdote, already quite old - "In every country there is a mafia, and only in Russia does the mafia have a country."
        1. +18
          29 December 2019 10: 38
          Victor N, from the fact that the problem of tax collection has never been completely resolved anywhere, it does not follow that it should not be resolved in Russia.
          You ask HOW to collect taxes. I believe that the answer is known to professionals. But the population understands how and with whom they do not need to be collected, or collected moderately. Opinions of legislators and the population differ.

          Previously, I had an understanding that the oligarchy's lobbying of tax legislation is explained by the desire to crush small and medium-sized businesses as a competitor capable of growing into a large one and claiming to redistribute the national wealth of our Motherland in their favor. The "small fry" trained in the harsh conditions of real competition would have succeeded!
          Now there is an understanding that the oligarchs
          "small fry" has already been pushed in and strangled to an almost complete stop of entrepreneurial breathing, and the legislation has been adjusted so that these trillions of dollars stolen to offshores cannot be returned by our laws, and we can only look after them with bitterness: goodbye that could work for the country! Mr. Putin, congratulations, you did it!
          I have no doubt that next year you will successfully make up for the lack of money to support your friends and foes (foes are just another form of your friends) by milking dry not only small and medium-sized businesses, but already the entire population of the country - judging by upcoming "tax scissors". For practice has shown that any improvement in the laws in our country makes the life of ordinary people even more unbearable.
          1. +1
            29 December 2019 12: 44
            +++ what to do like borozza ???? wassat
          2. -6
            29 December 2019 16: 50
            Professional tax officials have so far failed to recover taxes from millions of able-bodied Russians who do not officially work or receive part of their salary in envelopes. Such people are known to everyone, this is a mass phenomenon, but it is impossible to convict them of tax evasion. Lukashenko tried, remember how it ended? Moneybags in the USA and Europe did not immediately come to the realization of the need to differentiate tax rates. Digitalization will accelerate the process. But everyone should pay, including ordinary citizens.
            1. 0
              29 December 2019 18: 41
              Good wishes ...
            2. +2
              1 January 2020 11: 53
              Isn’t it easier to just remove the payment reasons in envelopes, and not to nod at them all the time, despite the fact that it is only 13 percent?
          3. +1
            30 December 2019 08: 00
            Look at history. All this already happened 100-150 years ago. There were peasants, only the working class appeared, who paid for the banquet of the nobles and the nascent bourgeoisie (ruling class). The people lived horribly and demanded, and the elite could not make concessions, otherwise it ceased to be the elite (peasants & nobles, the question of land). Read the history of the first and second State Duma and their dissolution and what the peasants, workers and even soldiers demanded. Do the Prarall now. What will we see the oligarchs and officials & the people, the crisis + external pressure (100 years ago it was also well, we could not help but get involved in the PMA) resources are not enough for everyone, the people have questions. The elite cannot make concessions, otherwise it will cease to be the elite (officials stop stealing and start working the system is built differently, the oligarchs immediately share the issue of privatization) not for this they destroyed the USSR and carried out counterrevolution (for example, the era of Catherine the Great and palace coups). Everyone understands everything, both above and below. On the face of the birth of a revolutionary situation not only in Russia but also in the world (Trump is an example of this). The situation will get worse and worse.
    2. +6
      29 December 2019 15: 42
      You're right! Our offshores are all ...... with the hard workers put together the last ..... insulting!
    3. +2
      30 December 2019 01: 15

      The tax on tax is being considered for a long time ...
    4. 0
      2 January 2020 14: 45
      This is apparently social egoism!
  2. +19
    29 December 2019 04: 33

    Rejoice that we are writing comments without taxes! fool
    1. +11
      29 December 2019 08: 31
      Quote: Good
      Rejoice that we are writing comments without taxes! fool

      Ha laughing good Here you are in vain now .. after all, they threw the idea .. there they quickly get such ideas ..
      1. +25
        29 December 2019 09: 43
        It seems that the idea of ​​collecting taxes from the population here draw from here -

        Very similar..
        1. +7
          29 December 2019 10: 16
          didn’t you know?
        2. +7
          29 December 2019 13: 48
          For rain in Germany has long been paying taxes (Regensteuer). For smoke the same. Here, some gas stations begin to take over the air, before pumping a wheel was everywhere free.
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    4. +1
      2 January 2020 14: 48
      This is for now ...
  3. +8
    29 December 2019 04: 43
    Taxes are a sore point for our society.
    In addition to taxes for rich and direct taxes on our citizens, the author did not mention indirect taxes, but they are gaining a pretty decent amount.
    In general, we have a strange situation ... the Russian government is categorically against taxation of capital exported .... Medvedev and Putin spoke about this in plain text and I have a question why?
    It seems to be worried about foreign investment in the Russian economy, but this coin has a second side ... investors are very timid and don’t want to invest in long-term projects in Russia ... any crisis in Russia scares them to a heart attack and they quickly reel their fishing rods capitals from our country.
    It is logical to exempt from capital import taxes into Russia but not export ... you can even stretch this process so that there is no damage to our country from a simultaneous mass export of capital.
    Unfortunately, the government’s hopes for the miraculous help of foreign investment are not always justified ... now we have stagnation of the economy and we need other tools to revive it.
    1. +10
      29 December 2019 04: 48
      In the tax policy of the Russian government, the worst constant change of rules is adversely affecting our society ... you never know which pig Medvedev and the State Duma will put on us and which side to expect a blow.
      1. +5
        29 December 2019 05: 43
        and not figs to relax the population ... I wanted an easy life ??? ...
        1. +6
          29 December 2019 05: 49
          and not figs to relax the population ... I wanted an easy life ??? ...

          Not interesting ... it means they can (the State Duma and the government) and we can’t ... they mean the New Year's Eve sausage salami di Felino ... and we have macaroni and soy meat ... that's arrogant.
          1. +8
            29 December 2019 10: 47
            And patriots must be silent and endure! In order not to cast a shadow on the light.
          2. +9
            29 December 2019 11: 49
            The same Lech ...
            But how would the lives of our people change for the better by changing only one norm of tax legislation - to declare small and medium-sized businesses LOCAL! As it was under I.V. Stalin!
            This is when taxes from small and medium enterprises with the exception of a small federal share remain in local budgets. How local managers would stir in search of investments!
            Here, more than once or twice, I whined that there was no democratic beer bar in my village (it was undemocratic - an entrance for my own according to the RECOMMENDATIONS! Whoever they wouldn’t let in!), There are no small bakeries and just dining rooms, there are no house kitchens, there is processing of raw materials. It would seem, why are they not? Give free rein, so our locals would turn around! There are!
            Rummaging through various Internet resources, I found the answer to my question.
            zen.yandex.ru, an article dated December 7 titled "Why do we have one Lefty or Kulibin? And still poor!"
            One commentator writes that he wanted to open a small bakery several years ago. He would have spent 100 thousand rubles for equipment, expensive rent, etc. For paperwork - already a million rubles and six months of ordeals. And taking into account the content of the documents, he would have to hire a director to keep an eye on everything, a manager to fight off countless inspectors, and also an accountant to keep an eye on the constantly changing tax laws. Such an appendage to production increases the cost of the product by at least 50%, and pay taxes for three employees, and so on. Not to mention the obligatory "give on the paws raking" to everyone who demands. It is impossible to withstand the competition with factories producing tasteless and stale bread! So I didn't bother.
            But our mayor, instead of kindergarten, almost opened a casino, this is profitable! Yes, our deputies did not.
            Transfer of taxes to local jurisdiction would solve the problems of small and medium-sized businesses, that is, the problems of the entire population of the country. Rapid economic growth would begin. Yes, lobbyists of the oligarchs in the State Duma will not give! They do not need economic growth - the wallets of oligarchs and deputies can already be replenished at the expense of the population, because it has not yet grumble. Till.
            1. +10
              29 December 2019 12: 51
              +++ I agree on almost everything, only here we have a lot of small bakeries, the bakery has closed, the trouble is different - all sorts of Low prices, Magnets, CSNs are opening, in short Big shops, with "distant" owners. At the same time, small, local shops go bankrupt and close
            2. +2
              29 December 2019 15: 03
              "How could local managers move in search of investments!" In Russia, most of the local administrators are lazy, they don’t want to put a finger on a finger even for infrastructure development - it’s hard to draft projects, you have to think, justify, and local residents don’t care - they wait for the light to come and tell and show them what to do or until the journalists will be shown on all federal channels, for this more than a trillion rubles for national projects out of the total amount allocated from the budget at the beginning of the year, are returned back to the budget at the end of the year, as unspent.
            3. +3
              29 December 2019 15: 24
              In our case, the situation is the opposite - small bakeries are ruining the bakery. It is more difficult with small "cookery". Big networkers like Lenta and Okey have them. It is still difficult for small ones to compete with them.
            4. 0
              29 December 2019 16: 56
              And what scope for corruption would open up!
    2. +3
      29 December 2019 12: 48
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      It seems to be worried about foreign investment in the Russian economy, but this coin has a second side ... investors are very timid and don’t want to invest in long-term projects in Russia ...

      from what? they invest in oil and other resources for a rather long time and are not afraid. In general, instead of investments, we need specialists in machine tool construction and sectoral state enterprises with firing squad.
      1. -1
        4 January 2020 05: 37
        With firing squad it will be possible to find those who wish only from slaves at the very bottom, while a professional will never volunteer to work with a muzzle at his temple.
        1. 0
          4 January 2020 09: 43
          Quote: point3d
          a professional, will never volunteer to work with a muzzle at his temple.

          having the honor, will go voluntarily, and the representative of the modern "Elite" is not like a muzzle at his temple laughing he just won't work
          1. 0
            4 January 2020 09: 49
            A man of honor will always despise his guard and hate his slave position. Therefore, no, only serfs are suitable and only to pretend to be professional work.
            1. 0
              4 January 2020 10: 34
              That is, specialists must necessarily be dissidents? Necessarily seeks to betray the Homeland, steal more, seeks to work only for himself for personal gain? Can it really be that among specialists there can be people with a civil (not consumer) ideology?
              1. +1
                4 January 2020 18: 47
                Specialists cost a lot of money and demand respect, they deserve it with their mind and knowledge. Work can be liked, work can be sincerely loved, but only slaves work for free. The idea of ​​working exclusively for the welfare of the crowd is an initial failure, since there is nothing meaner, there is nothing more cruel and more ungrateful than the crowd, therefore any good and successful idea that benefits the public is always based solely on selfishness when your personal ambitions (for example, to go down in history as a creator), the welfare of your family and your family. And then, incidentally (of course, if a person remains a person and does not turn into evil spirits), such ideas give society an impetus for climbing the evolutionary ladder with all its attendant benefits.
                These are simple facts from history.
                1. 0
                  4 January 2020 20: 50
                  Quote: point3d
                  (of course, if a person remains a person and does not turn into evil spirits) such ideas give society a boost

                  smile exactly!! soon you will become completely tame .... As Plato said? - for money you can buy medicine but not health, a bed but not a dream, pleasure but not happiness ......
                  Quote: point3d
                  since there is nothing meaner, there is nothing more cruel and more ungrateful than the crowd

                  what makes a crowd a people? in addition to a common language and territory, there is also ideology. The ideology is now common - consumerism, which crushes people. Therefore, any economic transformation is possible in our country only if there is an acceptable ideology, only it will give a Goal, for the sake of this goal, people will develop and realize their abilities for the benefit of the People! not crowds good and money will not play a major role.
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  5. +9
    29 December 2019 05: 38
    A fair question arises: why is capital so actively withdrawn from it?
    Because businesses can wring out
    1. +10
      29 December 2019 06: 32
      dissemble ... far from the most important argument ...
      psychology with a worldview at the forefront ...
      the principle of thieves in action - here and now from the sucker "raise", tomorrow there "at their" put. ..
      after 22 years of communicating with "brothers" a pattern emerges ... as soon as "extra fat" appears, 70% of "brothers in the shop" immediately have an unrestrained desire to dump "somewhere" from "this rash" ... and loot is still "raised" here ...
      1. +7
        29 December 2019 06: 53
        laughing
        There is a desire to blame for the reason I indicated - the presence of a family suggests income stability, business security - respectively. Blame “somewhere” for commerce for 40, accustomed to the human way of life without being a specialist in the world in the narrow field, which is in demand in the world only if there are free 1,5 - 2 lard rubles that can be withdrawn to the West. Without children, of course, easier and more modest amounts. )))
        1. +9
          29 December 2019 07: 30
          from those overgrown with "fat", only a few actually leave ... our mentality is not particularly conducive to their way of life ... it's hard for them there - the scope is not that ...
          the bulk remains "tormented" at home ... and in order not to squeeze anything, they simply transform into "notorious" patriots ... into United Russia ... in a gang it is somehow more convenient and calmer ...
          1. +9
            29 December 2019 07: 51
            Hard there for other reasons - the bureaucracy and FIG agree. The scope there is oh-oh-oh-at least - monetary. If the GDP of the Russian Federation for 2018 amounted to EMNIP, 690 billion tanks, then the expected revenue of one Microsoft in 2019 will be 125,8 billion tanks, the GDP 17 times smaller in Israel’s population is only half that of Russia, and so on.
            Here, yes - many are trying to cling to power or enter some other Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party - but this does not give everyone anything.
            1. +4
              29 December 2019 13: 04
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Russian GDP for 2018 amounted to EMNIP, 690 billion tanks

              Memory is cheating on you. Russia's budget is about $ 250 billion. GDP - just over $ 1,5 trillion
              1. +5
                29 December 2019 14: 02
                fincan.ru/articles/56_vvp-rossii-v-2019-godu/
                690 billion
                There are other data 1, 57 trillion tanks
                1,67 trillion tanks
                Well, let’s budget - 137 billion from Israel
                250 in the Russian Federation
                The population of the first is just over 8 million
                The population of Russia is more than 146 million
                The difference in population is 18 times
                The difference in the budget is less than 2 times
                And again - Gates revenue - 128 billion
            2. 0
              29 December 2019 15: 08
              For Microsoft and all other companies, the most important indicator of economic activity was, is and will be - net profit is in the black.
              1. +6
                29 December 2019 15: 31
                This is understandable))
                I mean, the money scale in the West is frantic
                Microsoft's net profit is about 15% of revenue (judging by Linked In)
  6. +32
    29 December 2019 06: 13
    The country is not ruled by United Russia, not by an iPhone-headed government, and not even by Putin.
    The country is ruled by a dozen ghouls with well-known names that determine the size of tariffs, energy prices and retirement age.
    They are officially forbidden to be called oligarchs. For the media, they are socially responsible businessmen, effective managers.
    For example, social manager Vekselberg, a specialist in Faberge eggs, through his "Russian Communal Systems" rules from America the lion's share of the housing and communal services of our country.
    It is through the efforts of the grandmothers in Russian towns and villages that a considerable part of the pension is paid for the maintenance of his suburban villas and yachts. And they themselves eat vermicelli and flabby potatoes.
    He recently appeared in an American publication - he criticized US sanctions imposed on him personally and on his family. I, says, always dreamed of becoming a citizen of a great state, I have the same passport as Trump, so for what, dear ones?
    These people will never pay taxes in our country.
    For them we are garbage. Until we take them by the udder ...
    1. +11
      29 December 2019 07: 43
      Last year, the video went around the network, electricians came to cut off the power supply network for non-payment, and there the mistress savvy got caught, says I’m crying by the barcode, the money goes to Arkansas .... so, these, they washed, they didn’t slurp it ... wonderful things in Russia mother.
    2. 0
      4 January 2020 05: 42
      Laughed, thanks)))
      Surprisingly, it still works.
  7. +9
    29 December 2019 08: 03
    What would not be discussed on the topic, everything will converge at one point "whose power is now"! And then we conclude ..... what?
    1. +11
      29 December 2019 08: 07
      The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...
      1. +6
        29 December 2019 08: 09
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...

        This dilemma has been in the air for so many years .... it cannot sink onto the "ground". We draw conclusions .... what?
        1. +4
          29 December 2019 10: 51
          But there are no proletarians!
    2. -12
      29 December 2019 09: 38
      Old topic: the culprits have long been appointed, why again sharpen the lasses? After all, no one even tries to determine the reasons for this situation and does not propose real measures to correct the situation. And one desire is not enough. We need to understand: WHY taxes even with a flat scale cannot be collected completely? Surely everyone either himself or knows about cases of tax evasion - this is a mass phenomenon in Russia, not only characteristic of the rich. And to discuss the export of capital in the circle of complete ignoramuses who have never transferred money outside the borders is an empty lesson.
      1. +13
        29 December 2019 10: 03
        Quote: Victor N
        this is a mass phenomenon in Russia, not only characteristic of the rich.

        Typically, the poor in us are not just MUCH, but the majority! Only there is nothing to take from them, but it’s much EASIER what the authorities do .... because this power is RICH, and they cherish their own.
        Quote: Victor N
        And to discuss the export of capital in the circle of complete ignoramuses who have never transferred money outside the borders is an empty lesson.

        That's it, an empty lesson to expect from those who have something to transfer over the hill, something other than REZRESENIE to others who simply have nothing to forward .... therefore, they get HATE in response and sooner or later it will splash out! And then there will be a big OH!
        1. +9
          29 December 2019 13: 15
          Quote: rocket757
          ..... Typically, the poor in us are not just MUCH, but the majority! Only there is nothing to take from them, but it’s much EASIER what the authorities do .... because this power is RICH, and they cherish their own and cherish ...... OH!
          So, Victor, but not really. We thought, thought and figured out how to take a million from every poor person. In general, from each. In the present and future. Pension for 5 years was postponed.
          1. +3
            29 December 2019 13: 23
            Dmitriy soldier .
            There is nothing to take from the poor, this is certainly relative. There is something to take from any working person. We got to retirement, that's completely mess ...
            This is such a power.
            1. +4
              29 December 2019 14: 08
              Quote: rocket757
              Dmitriy soldier .
              There is nothing to take from the poor, this is certainly relative. There is something to take from any working person. We got to retirement, that's completely mess ...
              This is such a power.

              Even when it seems that there is nothing, you can always find resources, so to speak. Yes, the poor person will find them himself. It is enough to put him in extremely difficult conditions, or on the brink of survival of himself or his children. And you don’t need to develop anything, you don’t need to think and fight theft of state property, press the majority, after all, 90%, after all. The last sentence is sarcasm, Victor
              1. +4
                29 December 2019 19: 07
                Quote: Reptiloid
                Yes, the poor man will find them himself.

                Poor person on the verge of survival READY for extreme actions and for survival too.
                There is no one to talk about conscience at the top, but there is a sense of self-preservation ... they don’t step over the edge, everything is very thought out, ready to rebound, if that. Bottoms are not ready to go ahead! Looks like there is something to lose, for now.
                1. +4
                  29 December 2019 19: 17
                  When I wrote that "" a poor man will find himself "", I meant that he would do what he used to - cut costs in different directions, take loans, maybe reduce living space ... Or something else.
                  I recall the expression ----dead hand right. .This is in France, under absolutism ----- the right to take away everything the seigneur wants from the peasant, even if this leads to the death of the vassal or his family
                  1. +1
                    29 December 2019 19: 23
                    Not the middle ages. Then the skill to communicate greatly increased and someone from the offended, who is lucky, may be able to unleash a wave of "popular anger".
                    Why the top run into every little thing? They mostly prefer.
                    1. +2
                      29 December 2019 19: 32
                      Quote: rocket757
                      ..... Why should the top run into every little thing? They mostly prefer.
                      recharge is needed constantly. Because no matter how much you grab ---- everything is not enough negative negative
        2. -1
          29 December 2019 17: 10
          There is NO fundamental difference between a tourist exporting currency, an ordinary citizen who wants to keep his savings in a bank in Switzerland, a "migrant worker", a businessman buying a tea plantation - NO! They have the right to dispose of OWN funds at their own discretion. Do not rush to judge strictly, the reality is more complicated than we think.
          1. 0
            29 December 2019 17: 37
            About all of the above, there is no conversation from the word ABSOLUTELY.
            A certain category of defaulters is discussed, nothing more.
    3. +4
      29 December 2019 12: 54
      Quote: rocket757
      What would not be discussed on the topic, everything will converge at one point "whose power is now"! And then we conclude ..... what?

      the conclusion is that we will say - be war! sad
      1. +3
        29 December 2019 13: 06
        To be or not to be? That is the question!
        It is necessary to see according to whose learning events will develop.
        1. +1
          29 December 2019 14: 02
          No, enough wars and revolutions, Russia can’t stand it anymore ...
          1. +8
            29 December 2019 15: 01
            Cniza, apart from wars and revolutions, there is also a division of territory. A person concerned about his own poverty will think: why not? After all, we thought that the division of the USSR would save the Russian Federation from "freeloaders." Maybe that's also why it, this carve-up, turned out. I am afraid that this is what the thirsty for their own Khanty, Kingdoms, Buddhists and Kingdoms lead to. Poverty, it sweeps out of the consciousness pride in a common, great power, settling in it as the main idea a pitiful hope for "less is better." Introduces discord between people.
            We are not aware of the true motives of imperious behavior.
            1. +1
              29 December 2019 16: 04
              This happened at all times, and here they also help from outside and very seriously.
              1. +2
                29 December 2019 19: 11
                The motives are always the same, MONEY and POWER!
                And with external kings / rulers local, they can always agree ....
                1. +2
                  29 December 2019 20: 08
                  Yeah, there are a lot of kings, but there are not enough countries ...
                  1. +1
                    29 December 2019 20: 48
                    Quote: cniza
                    Yeah, there are a lot of kings, but there are not enough countries ...

                    Yes, spiders in the bank, if there are not enough flies, they only grunt each other.
  8. +11
    29 December 2019 08: 06
    The problem is about the pool and two pipes ... It flows through the narrow, through the wide it flows ... laughing
    1. +7
      29 December 2019 08: 35
      Quote: parusnik
      Through the narrow flows, through the wide flows ...

      If ... It flows out through oil and gas pipes, through offshore registrations, through corruption ties and banks ... And what does not have time to leak out - spreads out at all so as not to go on strike and mouths not open wide ...
      1. +4
        30 December 2019 13: 31
        And people got hooked on loan apartments, cars, etc. In another way, just do not buy it all. But the patriots are yelling about clogged parking lots. They created the appearance of a sweet carrot, but in fact, people are simply in slavery. He took a mortgage, and became very dependent on the employer.
    2. +2
      29 December 2019 13: 01
      Quote: parusnik
      The problem is about the pool and two pipes ... It flows through the narrow, through the wide it flows ... laughing

      recourse There are also illegal taps. request Water discharge so to speak
  9. +4
    29 December 2019 08: 32
    Quote: rocket757
    Quote: Paul Siebert
    The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...

    This dilemma has been in the air for so many years .... it cannot sink onto the "ground". We draw conclusions .... what?

    So the ghost still doesn’t roam Europe ...
    1. +4
      29 December 2019 09: 41
      Quote: GenNick
      Quote: rocket757
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...

      This dilemma has been in the air for so many years .... it cannot sink onto the "ground". We draw conclusions .... what?

      So the ghost still doesn’t roam Europe ...

      Not that ghost has gone now, oh not that!
      1. +3
        29 December 2019 20: 21
        Quote: pv1005
        Quote: GenNick
        Quote: rocket757
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        The conclusion tells Marx that the lower classes will not want, and the upper circles cannot ...

        This dilemma has been in the air for so many years .... it cannot sink onto the "ground". We draw conclusions .... what?

        So the ghost still doesn’t roam Europe ...

        Not that ghost has gone now, oh not that!


        Of course!



        Threat. That's how we live...
        wassat
    2. +1
      29 December 2019 09: 41
      Already fermented.
  10. +9
    29 December 2019 09: 22
    "Do you still have doubts that the first representatives in Russia will be able to circumvent the law on a progressive taxation scale just by him, the business elite, by the best representatives? "

    No longer.
    We already know Vova, Dima and their "colleagues" well ... what No. angry
  11. +14
    29 December 2019 10: 08
    The picture with the top managers is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. I will add this one:

    And here, by the way, a picture from the magazine "Crocodile", in my number 10 for 1956 or 1959 (I forgot it). Does it look like anything ?:
    1. +6
      29 December 2019 10: 27
      The crisis, that's why income has increased slightly.
      But didn’t they guys, what did you conclude a gold contract for gas supply to Ukraine?
      Yes, they cost Russia more than Ukraine and Belarus combined.
    2. +6
      29 December 2019 12: 00
      Quote: Snail N9
      here, by the way, a picture from the magazine "Crocodile", in my number 10 for 1956 or 1959 (I forgot it). Does it look like anything ?:

      Very :-) So in the 90s, 00s I was engaged in the repair of a / m. And then the "managers" came to me
    3. +2
      30 December 2019 10: 09
      The management apparatus of 1500 people becomes self-sufficient and does not need a control object.
  12. +3
    29 December 2019 10: 24
    Started for health, and finished for the rest!
    To compare the taxation of different countries, it is necessary that the taxation systems are similar, i.e. comparing Russia and Germany, you can also compare the ass and the finger.
    Why the Union was rich, because it ruled everything and did not have any accounts in the offshore companies, now oligarchs reign in everything and what used to go to the state treasury now goes into the pocket of certain noble people (privatization is a way to legally rob illiterate people).
    Business had to be allowed to develop in light industry, and even then not everywhere.
    1. +2
      29 December 2019 12: 59
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Business needed to be allowed to grow in light industry,

      but no one forbids. Only here is the exchange rate set in such a way that whatever you produce, buying abroad is still cheaper! laughing
    2. -8
      29 December 2019 15: 15
      "Why the Union was rich" - Because everyone in it was equally poor.
      1. +10
        29 December 2019 16: 40
        Quote: Vadim237
        Because everyone in him was equally poor.

        And apart from galoshes, they could not afford anything. See V.V. Putin. "Complete collection of direct lines and press conferences"
        1. -5
          29 December 2019 20: 24
          Alas, in conditions of scarcity, the Soviet citizen could not shout, well, except perhaps: ministers, guards, restaurant directors and many others whose social circle was ordered as an ordinary worker.
    3. 0
      4 January 2020 05: 49
      If the union was rich, why were there problems with even the most primitive things and the ban on going to see how capitalism decays there?
  13. +5
    29 December 2019 10: 36
    A good article for those who like to savor the fact that the Russian Federation has "defeated" someone or has "accomplished" something. This is not reality, but simply a "smoke break" for the trolls. ... Even "10 Famous Surnames" are just errand boys for the "world behind the scenes". And the "official decor of the authorities" simply "performs representative functions" ...

    ps In more reasonable times, they could have brought the Fuggers to poverty and exterminated the Temple. And now? Our entire policy is accounting! bully
    1. +7
      29 December 2019 12: 22
      Right! 64 bankers rule the world. Rockefeller and Rothschild clan. Including they rule us, and all our "rulers" are running errands for them. One of the top managers of Gazprom is going to marry one of the younger Rockefellers. At the request of the future husband, he will take his surname. This is how the secret becomes apparent.
      And so that we do not blather, the shock of atomic bombs begins. A little bit - "the enemy at the gate"! Yes, even so. What does the enemy have to do with the fact that on New Year's Eve I was left without money, and even with a debt of a thousand? Because MOSOBLEIRTS twice charged me for October and November. For gas, electricity, overhaul, locking device, television and maintenance of gas equipment. To stop the "enemy" at the gate with my money and not let him go further? It turns out like this.
      I'll go even turn on the TV, or something, since I’ve overpaid so much. I listen to how the enemy climbs through the gate, and the MOSOBLEYRTS shakes my nose in front of his nose, and the enemy stunned and even scared retreats before the formidable greatness of the tax service of Russia.
      1. -1
        4 January 2020 05: 54
        Everyone complains about the lack of money, but about the lack of intelligence - no one))
  14. +5
    29 December 2019 11: 50
    creatures in power that they want to do something
  15. -8
    29 December 2019 12: 20
    Quote: kepmor
    only now the "government" would definitely be replaced by the "president" ...
    Neither Dimon nor his whipping boys in this country are anyone and there is no way to call them ..

    Apparently, studying the materiel is not fate - there are FOUR fundamental errors and TWO fundamental errors for 23 words. And these people now complain that they are turned on whatever they want.
    1. +9
      29 December 2019 12: 47
      Vovan, but I'm still waiting for Vadim273 to appear demanding to sign a petition in defense of the actions of the current government.
      Vadim 237, oooh!
      No answer...
      And it doesn’t exist because from next year the taxation on imputation, patent and trade fee will be increased by 4,9%. If you have no more than 130 workers and income no more than 200 million, then you can stay on the simplified.
      And entrepreneur Vadim has 200 workers! Here and there is no Vadim in this forum - he, the defender of the current state of things, is not up to it. Entrepreneur Vadim is now seriously concerned: he thinks which of his 70 employees to start paying in envelopes, showing those employees laid off, and how to bring inappropriate off-the-shelf surplus income.
      1. -4
        29 December 2019 15: 25
        These 4,9% have long been laid down in the cost of products and services for me - I won’t offend anyone, I won’t cut anyone down, and hitting offshore by the local authorities can happen at any time and on property abroad.
  16. +8
    29 December 2019 12: 38
    I have always been interested in the question: why do oligarchs need so much money, despite the fact that they spend only on themselves? After all, they provided themselves with everything they could, as well as several generations in advance. And after all, they need more and more. But where? In the other world, they still will not come in handy (fortunately, there are other values). And they also do not add happiness, it is enough to recall the history of the Demidovs.
    1. +4
      29 December 2019 13: 27
      Uran53, and this is in order not to lose position in the Forbes list. After all, this position allows them to position themselves as servants of the banking capital that has taken over the planet, that is, necessary for that. Obviously, those not on the list are not immune to financial destruction. So they are trying to get as much out of Russia as possible, as long as possible. To be guaranteed to survive. And this "while" lasts and lasts. Suggestors easily manage to keep this "for now" in our country, because the bifurcation point has been passed. The beasts have gained such power that it is hardly possible to remove them by democratic means. They will squeeze us, making us unnecessary in the territory of their feeding. Taxes are one way.
    2. -2
      29 December 2019 17: 25
      Why do oligarchs need money? This is their tool. To make investments, trading on the exchange, etc.
  17. -6
    29 December 2019 12: 38
    The article is a custom trashak for warming up lemongues: almost in every paragraph there is enchanting nonsense or logical juggling. Examples:
    In addition, in Russia, even for holders of “free billions,” there still remains a serious risk of falling under the grindstone of a showdown by law enforcement agencies. Which, incidentally, happened with the same Zakharchenko and Arashukov. Yes, and with the former Minister of the open government Abyzov, too.

    Well, it’s necessary to write down explicit thieves to the holders of “free billions,” and the realization of the howl that is here on the forum - corruption to the answer! - lead to a showdown of the power organs! And after that, comments about the fact that no one Abyzov did not call him anymore were surprised, and the president was to blame for demanding that such owners be judged.
    But even with a flat taxation scale, our fiscal authorities could and, in fact, should collect much more into the treasury than now. A number of economists believe that fees should simply be many times more. Although not with such meager salaries as there are in Russia now, especially in the public sector.

    But really, the authors "Alexey Podymov, Anatoly Ivanov, Doctor of Economics, Professor" should decide - either "they should have collected a lot more to the treasury", or "Although not from such meager salaries, which are in Russia now , especially in the public sector ", or" Clients in the updated offices of local branches of the Federal Tax Service are often ready to almost shoot themselves in front of everyone. "
  18. +5
    29 December 2019 12: 44
    Taxes from the oligarchs can be successfully collected by those who can, without flinching, and in spite of the "childhood friendship" send them to sewing mittens, and refrain from pardoning them for some holiday.
    They are tough and serious people - therefore they will take serious actions seriously. Who will deal with political bullying - that is generally overboard!
  19. +6
    29 December 2019 13: 24
    As long as THESE are in power and in the country, the system is feudal - all this is empty talk about nothing.
  20. +5
    29 December 2019 13: 56
    Or here - a boon in favor of the simplified version.
    A simplified entrepreneur who uses an online cash register will be spared ALL of reporting. Information from sales will go directly to the tax office, and tax will be calculated there ...
    Is this a new way to rip off the small entrepreneur? "In no case do not make calculations in your books! We will calculate everything for you! And we will take such a tax that you will cry!" They will charge the tax, whatever they like, and run an entrepreneur, prove that he is not a camel. That he did not have such income. This is how they charged me with the apartment tax for gas, electricity and so on - twice in October and twice in November. Go, prove that you paid the right way. Entrepreneurs will go crazy, everything will be damned!
    Such is the offensive of the ruling class on the people.
  21. 0
    29 December 2019 14: 05
    The author mixed up the name of the chart. Capital outflow from Russia
    with the second schedule it will be more less clear what came and what went
  22. -3
    29 December 2019 14: 30
    "It is she, like little else, that clearly characterizes the very" open position "of the Russian oligarchs who, in just three decades, have raked up 90 percent of the national wealth." Can you give a clear explanation of what "National Wealth" is and how is it measured - is it money, property, some amount of natural resources, land, architectural monuments? Because the fortune of all Russian billionaires is 450 billion dollars, the cost of movable and immovable property, the value of Russia's fixed assets is 160 trillion rubles, not counting hundreds and thousands of trillions of rubles of movable and immovable property owned by 146 million people living in Russia. Even if we take into account the cost of fixed assets - as national wealth - 90% is owned by the oligarchs by no means, since 450 billion is 29 trillion rubles - and the cost of fixed assets is 160 trillion rubles.
    1. +6
      29 December 2019 15: 34
      Vadim, dear, here you are!
      Hello! )))
      Now, until people come with numbers that refute yours, I’ll explain something to you. We are all here fighting for you, understand? For you!
      Until we got taxes to every "trifle", and then they will get to you. And until this happens, we are fighting for you.
      I understand that your business is connected with Atommash and the military commissar, therefore the position obliges you to act in the role of a troll who does not agree with us, otherwise "some" will not understand and frown.
      But the old days, in which it was still possible to breathe small and medium-sized businesses and somehow the civilian population (we seem to be at war with the aggressor), are passing away, and the direction of the new is already clear. You will find yourself under the press. What I do not wish you.
      1. -1
        29 December 2019 16: 06
        I won’t find myself under the press and don’t have to fight for me, I’m refunded VAT as the exporter for the third year, there is a significant financial anti-crisis pillow, there is profit from the services of the repair base, car services, farmers in the Volgograd and Astrakhan regions, investments in blue chips, sometimes stock market game rates for oil and precious metals. But small and medium-sized businesses in Russia suffer in large part because of large rents, with taxes we have, and so on, 40–60 percent tax fraud can still be shod - but the landlord is gone.
        1. +7
          29 December 2019 17: 52
          Vadim, speaking of you, I, of course, spoke in general. You are just a convenient way to analyze the situation. But how many small and medium-sized entrepreneurs do not have access to export! Here they are crushed by taxes.
          Or is it to take taxes on the earnings of pensioners and disabled people with the obligatory registration of employees for tax accounting? Ah, do you get 8 thousand rubles a month at a kiosk? Get registered and pay! Otherwise, the penalty is 20 and higher ...
          I could understand the state if Putin’s national projects were rapidly translated into reality. I suppose everyone would understand. But, firstly, the national projects themselves, besides the military, raise big questions, and secondly, the oligarchs and other businesses do not rush to implement them - they only withdraw money to offshore. For the reasons that are already indicated on this forum.
          So it turns out that business pays people a little, the state will "a little" squeeze out of the population for national projects, therefore, out of business, and then the enterprises created on the national basis. projects become the property of the same business, and people will not have a relationship with the created. We will not have everything. That is why we are all creators of "Notes of an Outsider".
          1. -4
            29 December 2019 20: 35
            We will wait until the completion of national projects by May decrees in the 2024th - then we will see what 13 trillion from the budget and 13 trillion investments from business have been spent on and how much percent this will all be done. In the meantime, some large projects completed, under construction and planned in Russia can be viewed here https://ruxpert.ru
            1. +2
              29 December 2019 20: 57
              Quote: Vadim237
              We will wait for the completion of national projects according to the May decrees in the 2024th -

              Vadim, in the 24th, you will wait for something in the 35th. About national projects, just like now about "strategy 2020" you would prefer to forget.
              1. -1
                30 December 2019 13: 30
                I won’t wait for anything - in the 2024th Putin will leave, and there the results of everything will be announced, including national projects.
  23. 0
    29 December 2019 15: 24
    But I wonder about the authors, do they not understand or do not know that all these Pension Fund, Federal Tax Service, FSSP, the police are private offices with assets abroad? not a single "law" adopted by the State Duma is legitimate, from the word "absolutely"? what taxes can be in a "state" that does not have money (there are bills of exchange, with signs of the ruble), there is no legal authority (all, practically self-appointed), but there are a bunch of beggars with loud names? the country suffered, and that's all.
  24. 0
    30 December 2019 01: 16

    When laws are passed by thieves ...
    1. -1
      30 December 2019 13: 34
      The law on the confiscation of the property of corrupt officials was adopted a year ago, according to it, property worth 24 billion rubles has already been confiscated - something does not fit in with your "When a thief adopts laws."
      1. 0
        10 January 2020 12: 54
        1) Drop the link to this law.
        2) How does one contradict the other ?!
        3) The drawing itself.

        4) One thief cannot steal from another thief ?!
  25. -1
    30 December 2019 09: 09
    In the fairy tale about Chippolino there was a phrase: "... we introduced a tax on air - so you stopped breathing normally ...", and a Soviet joke: "... soon we will pay for air too .."
  26. +1
    30 December 2019 17: 21
    Nooo, these are not taxes in Russian.
    These are judaicus taxes for Russians, for it is Russians who basically have nowhere to hide.
    Is it in vain that Sholomov heads the Hasidic administration in the country?
  27. 0
    30 December 2019 19: 51
    Quote: GKS 2111
    The Russian government is discussing a draft tax on parasitism. The next step is the tax on illness, tax on injury and tax on death. Well, and tax tax.

    This is normal. See the story about the new bunch tax!
    For some reason, these dismal attempts by lawmakers are no longer surprising.
    I recalled an attempt to enter stomp tax.

    Redrawed under Yeltsin's Basic Law, get it!
    The owners of life own subsoil, factories, banks.
    Even the Central Bank cannot independently print rubles.
    Money from the NWF (the documents of the Ministry of Finance clearly indicate that the NWF funds are used to provide pensions to Russian citizens) will now be used to buy Sber from the Central Bank.
    Two years ago, the state collapsed 1 trillion. rubles from the NWF to Otkritie Bank.




    Fart Tax!

  28. -1
    30 December 2019 21: 24
    Quote: depressant
    Here, more than once or twice, I whined about the fact that in my village there is no democratic beer bar

    I don’t know, but in Voronezh private shops selling beer from private breweries are growing like mushrooms.
  29. 0
    3 January 2020 13: 24
    Agalarov added that he is observing good administration by the tax authorities: tax collection is growing, and the load on Russians in this area is quite high. The businessman noted that if earlier the tax burden could be compensated for by incomplete payment, now it becomes impossible. “And next year everyone will understand that the tax burden that is stipulated by the legislation is impossible and something needs to be done with it. And the sooner they pay attention to this - that the tax burden needs to be reduced - the better the results will be, ”Agalarov concluded.

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/society/02/01/2020/5e0df8989a794727840fa831