Zelensky on the payment of $ 2,9 billion by Gazprom: This is another change


The President of Ukraine declared “victory” (in the Ukrainian version - “overpowering”) in connection with the obligations fulfilled by Gazprom in the framework of the decision of the Stockholm arbitration. We are talking about the transfer of funds in the amount of $ 2,9 billion by Gazprom to Ukraine.


The Ukrainian Naftogaz confirmed receipt of funds from a Russian company, adding that the bulk of the funds will be used to develop gas production in Ukraine, as well as to repay loans.

President of Ukraine Zelensky:

This is another change (victory), which is of great importance for the country.

Recall that Gazprom paid the above amount, based on Naftogaz’s obligations to refuse other financial claims and the readiness of the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine to sign a contract for gas transit to Europe.

In 2020, 65 billion cubic meters of “blue fuel” will go through Ukraine to the West, in the next 4 years - 40 billion each. However, the contract has not been officially signed yet. Not only that, there is no data on whether Kiev’s direct purchase of gas from Russia will also be included in this contract.

Today, the Ukrainian authorities continue to tell stories about "buying gas in Europe." In fact, Ukraine both bought gas from the Russian Federation and continues to buy it, but only the one that is reserved by Poland, Slovakia and Hungary. Based on this fact, the price of gas for the Ukrainian consumer is growing by about 25-30 percent. This scheme, as you know, in Kiev was called "reverse supply." Some time ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin commented on this scheme:

Gas cannot go in one direction in half of the pipe, and in the other half in the other half.

Be that as it may, Ukraine received almost $ 3 billion from Gazprom.
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  1. Mytholog 28 December 2019 06: 37 New
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    Well, cries and groans will begin on both sides of the border)
    In reality, it’s just an unpleasant, forced maneuver, nothing more.
    1. rotmistr60 28 December 2019 06: 45 New
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      Vanguete? Or maybe about the so-called. "help" say something?
      As for the payment of almost 3 billion, battles have been going on for several days. Officials from Gazprom and the Department of Energy put this situation on the shelves. If Ukraine has nothing more to boast about, then let it loudly consider it to be overwhelming, and time will show who ultimately has a victory.
      1. Mytholog 28 December 2019 06: 54 New
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        I don’t wang, I just know.
        I’m used to this madhouse as a nurse.
        First, they will yell for overpower. Then - about the fact that they were few and fooled. Then - about the traitors in power.
        The funniest thing is when “from behind the wall” the same cries fly, but in Russian.
        1. rotmistr60 28 December 2019 06: 56 New
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          So I'm on a loud "dialogue" and do not argue. It’s just that you had a comment with an explicit prediction before adding.
      2. littoral 28 December 2019 09: 58 New
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        Officials from Gazprom and the Department of Energy put this situation on the shelves.

        And what did they “spread out” there?
        1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 10: 32 New
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          Nothing was laid out! Prior to this, they claimed that the Ukrainians were wrong and would not pay, and here the broads and you! Every year, propagandists promised us that Ukraine would freeze without Russian gas!
          1. ccsr 28 December 2019 12: 22 New
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            Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
            Every year, propagandists promised us that Ukraine would freeze without Russian gas!

            Listen to less propagandists - you better learn to think sensibly, and then, believe me, many naive questions will disappear by themselves.
      3. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 11: 33 New
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        If Ukraine has nothing more to boast about, then let it loudly consider it to be overwhelming, and time will show who ultimately has a victory.

        Let them scream and jump, this is their national. But time and life will show who has Victory and who has "overcome".
        1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 24 New
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          Please tell me what Russia can boast of over 20 years, are there any achievements in the field of space, information technology, medicine? Can rovers of the Russian Federation plow the expanses of the universe? Is the living standard higher than in Finland or salaries higher than in Poland, low gas prices among consumers?
          1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 12: 33 New
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            Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
            Please tell me what Russia can boast of over 20 years, are there any achievements in the field of space, information technology, medicine?

            For 20 years, Russia has something to brag about, and more than others. For 20 years, Russia climbed out of the pit into which the liberals led it, led by the MSG and EBN. This is the same breakthrough as from 1917 to 1937 the USSR made after the liberal revolution led by Kerinsky. And now the question is for you "Kazakh". After the collapse of the USSR, what "independent" country can show such achievements, can Kazakhstan or Ukraine? Yes, economically, Russia can not yet compete with China and the United States, but in the international arena, Russia is at the level of China and the United States. Or can you name another?
            1. 72jora72 28 December 2019 14: 01 New
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              . And now the question is for you "Kazakh". What kind of "independent" country after the collapse of the USSR can show such achievements, can Kazakhstan
              And do not tell me the price of gasoline in our country and in Kazakhstan ???
            2. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 14: 30 New
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              And I’ll tell you there is nothing and never will be! As for the Kazakh, that is, after 2014, there will be more and more people who understand that we are not on our way! The longer we are partners of the Russian Federation, the more we will become poor and degrade!
              1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 14: 37 New
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                Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
                The longer we are partners of the Russian Federation, the more we will become poor and degrade!

                I do not want to prove or interpret anything to you, but you do not prove to us either. Now each "family" has its own life, and each manages as he wants. It’s like an Asian bazaar “Walk around the bazaar and make friends to your liking.” But if you get poorer, this does not mean that someone will feed you, and even for free, but Russia certainly will not feed.
                1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 14: 42 New
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                  Unfortunately no! We were forcibly dragged into the Customs Union, the Russian Federation was squeezed out by Australian companies involved in uranium mining, now in the KZ mining of uranium is under your control! And the pressure is growing!
                  1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 15: 10 New
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                    Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
                    Now in the KZ, uranium mining is under your control!

                    Well, you shouldn’t give uranium to minke whales, you should at least think about it.
                  2. Kazbek 28 December 2019 19: 31 New
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                    Hey, Kazakh! You are not presenting the presentation to Russia, but to your elbasy and his clique, which sold all your PIs to Americans and Anglicans in the 90s under PSA agreements! All metallurgy - to the Indians! You have nothing left of your own! Not a single deposit belongs to the Kazakhs !!! All the factories and plants turned into shopping centers: ADK, AHBK, etc. The fields are all overgrown with weeds, no one wants to do anything! And you are all new to Russia! That's already half of Kazakhstan moved to Russia and continue to go! Come on, do not drive here!
              2. ccsr 28 December 2019 17: 55 New
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                Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
                The longer we are partners of the Russian Federation, the more we will become poor and degrade!

                And what prevents you from saying goodbye to Russia? Or are you one of those who in the days of the USSR shouted the most, that you feed the RSFSR, and now you whine that they live better in Russia?
            3. Local from the Volga 28 December 2019 15: 26 New
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              Yes, that you are arguing with these rams, who cannot lift their ass from their leaky sofa, go to work!
              1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 16: 16 New
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                Quote: Local from the Volga
                Yes, that you are arguing with these rams, who cannot lift their ass from their leaky sofa, go to work!

                Thank. You are very right here, but work is not their prerogative; the sofa is more reliable.
                1. Nikolai Korovin 29 December 2019 00: 58 New
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                  You can also work on the couch. Only a blanket is not necessary. And everything will be tip-top.
          2. Vadim237 28 December 2019 13: 03 New
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            Russia has the lowest cost of gas for domestic consumption, but it will not work out to gasify all too much money huge payback is zero, if every year it will be possible to allocate all of Russia from the budget for a trillion for 20 years - but who is this money every year for gasification will give.
            1. Brturin 28 December 2019 13: 28 New
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              Quote: Vadim237
              too expensive money huge payback zero, if every year from the budget for this trillion

              Some believe that it is cheaper, but up to a certain amount .... Assistant to the head of the presidential administration Kirill Molodtsov estimated the cost of increasing the level of gasification in Russia to 82% at more than $ 1 trillion. The word "more", but let 2 trillion. President of the Russian Gas Society Pavel Zavalny - the level of gasification up to 83% is the maximum.
              1. Vadim237 28 December 2019 16: 08 New
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                This assistant is clearly not in the topic of what is needed for the gasification of settlements, but in Russia there are 60000 of them and all at large distances from each other it needs to be built: new gas main pipelines, gas storages, distribution stations, compressor stations, control points, wiring, equipment and machinery for servicing all this infrastructure, expensive paperwork to arrange all this - one pipe will cost only a few trillion rubles.
            2. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 14: 45 New
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              In America, there are only 131 million homes that people can live in, of which 114 million are permanently settled:

              Now the level of gasification:

              How Many Homes Use Natural Gas?
              According to Alliant Energy, more than 64 million American homes are heated with natural gas. This is accounts for more than half of the homes in the US, making it the most popular home-heating fuel in the country.


              64 million homes are gasified. Even if we consider only inhabited houses (although there are gas supply houses too), in America 56% of the houses are gasified.

              Now for Russia (for 2017):

              The level of gasification in Russia at the beginning of this year amounted to 67,2%, including in cities and urban-type settlements - 70,9%, in rural areas - 57,1%. This was announced by the head of Gazprom Alexei Miller at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin today, July 4, according to the Kremlin’s press service.

              That is, in Russia, gasification is higher than American, despite Siberia, permafrost, the remote North and the Far East, etc.

              Well, gas production for 2016 (billion cubic meters):
              USA - 751,063
              Russia - 642,242

              And now about how much it costs to heat your home.

              If you heat with gas, then an average of 600 bucks per season (it is in America on average about 3 months). And do not think that the climate here is pure Mediterranean. But this is not the main thing.

              44% of American homes do not have gas, and not all of them are in the south of the United States. Just southern Texas, California and Oklahoma produce a lot of gas and, of course, gasification there is on the level, and these are very populated states. So, if you do not heat with gas, then for a season heating with electricity (in a milder winter) will cost $ 900, about 300 a month, but if the winter is harsh and there is no gas, you will have to heat it with fuel oil and then $ 2000 per season and about 700 dollars a month.

              The average American pension is $ 1200 per month and there are no discounts for pensioners in most places, since capitalism.

              And 40% of American retirees still pay a mortgage and the average mortgage payment is $ 1030 per month (excluding real estate tax).
            3. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 14: 49 New
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              Russia has a quarter of the world's gas reserves, but these riches do not warm us at all. Even in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, in the territory where the largest deposits are located, in particular, Urengoyskoye, Yamburgskoye, Zapolyarnoye, the level of gasification does not reach 50%, which is significantly less than the national average.

              At the same time, Iran, the second largest gas reserves on the planet, has already increased the level of gasification in rural areas to 78%, and in cities to 96%. And Turkmenistan has achieved almost 100 percent gasification at the end of the last century. Moreover, for a long time, the population of the Central Asian republic received “blue gold” for free.

              However, not even the most significant energy reserves do not prevent various states from successfully supplying them with citizens. In Uzbekistan, for example, the gasification rate is 85%, although no more than 0,8% of the world's reserves are hidden in the country's bowels. And Azerbaijan with its 0,6% achieved an indicator of 92%.

              Source: https://versia.ru/vlasti-uporno-sozdayut-mif-o-gazifikacii-rossii
              1. ccsr 28 December 2019 17: 59 New
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                Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
                Russia has a quarter of the world's gas reserves, but these riches do not warm us at all.

                And you are not a citizen of Russia, so roll your lip, we ourselves will figure out what we have.
              2. Kazbek 28 December 2019 19: 37 New
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                Hey kazaz! laughing Trololo! You are pierced! Who is this "us" ??? laughing
            4. Local from the Volga 28 December 2019 15: 27 New
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              Absolutely true!
          3. Kazbek 28 December 2019 19: 25 New
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            Dohrena all! An interesting question - study! And in the field of space, and in the field of information technology, and in the field of medicine. And also in agriculture, shipbuilding, in the defense industry, in the extractive industries, in road construction, etc. You all learned to fart in the air, put minus signs, scream with presentations to the state, and you didn’t learn such trifles as fact checking! All of us have sidetracks over the past 20 years. Although there are problems, but they are solved in stages! To the fuss, comrades hhl!
      4. major147 28 December 2019 12: 18 New
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        Quote: rotmistr60
        If Ukraine has nothing more to boast about, then let it loudly consider it to be too much

        And the “victory” is not theirs. Let them not forget to thank their hosts.
        1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 24 New
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          The money was paid in repayment of the debt of a Russian company recognized by a decision of the Stockholm arbitration. Earlier, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak called the upcoming payment “a drop in the ocean”

          Read more at RBC:
          https://www.rbc.ru/business/27/12/2019/5e06339e9a79470d0c9382b1
          1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 12: 49 New
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            Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
            The money was paid in repayment of the debt of a Russian company recognized by a decision of the Stockholm arbitration.

            Any court and any arbitration is not only Stockholm, as a stick has two ends. Even the Nuremberg tribunal condemned the war criminals of the 3rd Reich, imposed the death sentences of about 20 criminals, and about a hundred were imprisoned. But the majority of criminals (we don’t even take small party bipods as SS officers and soldiers), namely large party, industrial, financial, military and SS functionaries, were not even sentenced to probation. And now, various European courts, tribunals and arbitrations are judged not by justice, but by order of the owners.
            1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 14: 28 New
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              Do you propose the most honest and unbiased Russian court? It will be interesting to see when the Nuremberg court will judge the Tsar and his company
              1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 14: 41 New
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                Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
                Do you propose the most honest and unbiased Russian court?

                In my opinion, I wrote "any court." If you do not understand me, I'm sorry I did not learn the Kazakh language.
        2. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 14: 39 New
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          Quote: major147
          And the “victory” is not theirs. Let them not forget to thank their hosts.

          They do not remember the good, whoever did this good to them.
          1. Nikolai Korovin 29 December 2019 01: 02 New
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            Well, why not remembering? It was written here that Zhukov back in 1945 said: "We have liberated Europe from fascism, and it will not forgive us for this." I don’t know if this is exactly Zhukov’s words - of course, this is not present in Memoirs and Reflections. But in terms of meaning it turns out that way. They remember and cannot forgive.
    2. Atlant-1164 28 December 2019 09: 18 New
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      "And we have gas in our apartment! And you?" again subsidize the Ukrainian economy .. again Skabeeva and Sheinin lied to us)
      1. den3080 28 December 2019 10: 21 New
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        Quote: Atlant-1164
        "And we have gas in our apartment! And you?" again subsidize the Ukrainian economy .. again Skabeeva and Sheinin lied to us)

        Not only Skabeeva, but also Mr. Solovyov with his show.
        But, by the way, they are small people, performers. What they are told to do, they do.
        1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 10: 32 New
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          Now they lie that because of Christian mercy they decided to help the Ukrainian people!
          1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 11: 36 New
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            Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
            Now they lie that because of Christian mercy they decided to help the Ukrainian people!

            It is time to finish reading the New Testament, those days ended with "Christian mercy."
            1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 37 New
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              Fools say something else! We are in Syria because of compassion for the Syrian people! In Libya, we help refugees and do not ask for a drop of oil and gas!
        2. Tochilka 28 December 2019 14: 13 New
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          Hence the conclusion: do not look and listen to these parsley. Anyway, avoid television. Protect your brain from burns)))
      2. revnagan 28 December 2019 10: 58 New
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        Quote: Atlant-1164
        "And we have gas in our apartment! And you?"

        “And we have a gas pipeline!” (Cit.) laughing .
        1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 38 New
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          It did not work to use the gas pipeline as a blackmail tool! SP-2 is covered!
          1. major147 28 December 2019 12: 26 New
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            Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
            SP-2 is covered!

            Exactly !! ??? belay
            1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 27 New
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              Didn't you know?
              1. major147 28 December 2019 12: 28 New
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                Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
                Didn't you know?

                I heard the work is suspended ....
          2. Nikolai Korovin 29 December 2019 01: 08 New
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            No way. Happened. SP-2 was covered, although not quite, precisely because of the gas blackmail. Unfortunately, the course of the domestic pipe-laying machine located in the Far East is only 12 knots. But I think Egypt will let him pass through the Suez Canal - there the British there now seem to not steer, as in 1904. So, since he does not need to go around Africa, it will be faster than the squadron of Rozhestvensky, especially since there is no need to go to Madagascar. But, of course, the delay before starting up to six months is quite visible to itself.
      3. Krasnoyarsk 28 December 2019 11: 05 New
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        Quote: Atlant-1164
        "And we have gas in our apartment! And you?" again subsidize the Ukrainian economy .. again Skabeeva and Sheinin lied to us)

        Not only that, = However, the contract has not yet been officially signed. = but Gazprom 2.9 lard has already paid. fool fool fool
        1. Winnie76 28 December 2019 12: 17 New
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          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Not only that, = However, the contract has not yet been officially signed. = but Gazprom 2.9 lard has already paid.

          Judgment - must be complied with. Not ?
          1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 25 New
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            Gazprom paid Naftogaz Ukrainy $ 2,9 billion in repayment of the debt formed in accordance with the decision of the Stockholm arbitration.

            “In order to fulfill the agreements reached in Minsk on December 20, Gazprom paid $ 2,9 billion to Naftogaz of Ukraine in accordance with the decision of the Arbitration Institute of the Stockholm Chamber of Commerce and Industry within the time period stipulated by the protocol of December 20,” the representative told RBC Gazprom.

            Read more at RBC:
            https://www.rbc.ru/business/27/12/2019/5e06339e9a79470d0c9382b1
            1. Winnie76 28 December 2019 12: 44 New
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              Did you give this link in confirmation of my comment? Is there a court decision? There is. Do you need to do it? It is necessary.
              Regarding the remaining mythical 2 billion (from your link):
              1. This statement of Naftogaz, the author did not bother to present the position of Gazprom
              2. These are some offsets for 2014, who should not follow the article for whom, and for what, documents are not confirmed
              3. Payment, if any, was made by gas
            2. Kazbek 28 December 2019 19: 40 New
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              Trollik, why are you divorced? Who sent you here? How much do they pay for one comment on VO in the 404th? laughing laughing laughing
          2. 72jora72 28 December 2019 14: 06 New
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            Judgment - must be complied with. Not ?
            So what prevents Ukraine from filing for Gazmyas, excuse Gazprom for another 100500 million, which they will win in the Stockholm court. Pay and repent.
            1. Winnie76 28 December 2019 15: 28 New
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              Quote: 72jora72
              So what prevents Ukraine from filing for Gazmyas, excuse Gazprom for another 100500 million, which they will win in the Stockholm court. Pay and repent.

              Gazprom itself recognized the jurisdiction of the Stockholm court in the contract. If the next contract consolidates the analysis of issues in the court of Kislodrischensk, they will butt in Kislodrischensk
            2. strannik1985 28 December 2019 15: 34 New
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              So what prevents Ukraine from applying for Gazmyas

              Submit something, only if Merkel doesn’t intervene they will receive money, not money.
          3. Krasnoyarsk 28 December 2019 14: 49 New
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            Quote: Winnie76

            Judgment - must be complied with. Not ?

            It is necessary. But one could wait. No?
        2. Nikolai Korovin 29 December 2019 01: 10 New
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          I believe that in general, Kurginyan can be trusted, and he said that if Gazprom gives 3, then rest assured that he knows where he will get 5 for it. Today is 3, tomorrow is 5. Directly from the 1990 humor.
          1. ccsr 29 December 2019 10: 30 New
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            Quote: Nikolai Korovin
            if Gazprom gives 3, then rest assured that he knows where he will get 5. For today, 3, tomorrow 5. Directly on the 1990 humor.

            That's right - since Gazprom has reduced pumping through Naftogaz, it means that through SP-2 they plan to make more profit from the volumes that go through Ukraine through it - the profit is higher, because the cost of pumping gas by itself will be less, and this will give additional income. This is an alphabet that not all people understand because of the lack of basic Marxist-Leninist knowledge in political economy.
      4. major147 28 December 2019 12: 19 New
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        Quote: Atlant-1164
        again subsidize the Ukrainian economy ..

        It is extremely disgusting, but of the two evils I had to choose the lesser ....
      5. ccsr 29 December 2019 10: 25 New
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        Quote: Atlant-1164
        Skabeeva again with Sheinin lied to us)

        And you listen to them less, and turn on your brains more often, maybe then you’ll understand that it’s better to figure it out yourself, so as not to behave like a little child in the "Children's World" who sees a sea of ​​toys.
    3. Tuk77 28 December 2019 10: 11 New
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      Maneuver...
      Well, yes, in order to cajole the States before imposing sanctions.
      And how did this maneuver end?
      Zilch.
      SP-2 is stopped.
    4. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 10: 28 New
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      No! This is the defeat of the Russian Federation and Gazprom! We knelt down and Putin did not help!
      1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 11: 39 New
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        Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
        This is the defeat of the Russian Federation and Gazprom! We knelt down and Putin did not help!

        The defeat is if SP-2 were destroyed. And this is a temporary respite between fights.
        1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 45 New
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          Well of course you're right! Russians never lose! Money is nothing! The main respite!
          1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 11: 47 New
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            Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
            Russians never lose!

            But the Jews lose or not.
            1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 48 New
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              Jews lose like other normal people!
              1. stalkerwalker 28 December 2019 12: 05 New
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                Monya,
                You were in Odessa not for a Jew, and not even for a Jew. Well, you and Babchenko are purebred Malanians ....
                Do not slander the people of the promised land ...
                1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 09 New
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                  I am Kazakh for your information! You in the Russian Federation like to put stubs unproven!
                  1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 12: 17 New
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                    Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2

                    I am Kazakh for your information! You in the Russian Federation like to put stubs unproven!

                    Well, excuse me, but by the behavior we thought that you are from the "promised"
                    1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 17 New
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                      It's okay, no one has canceled anti-simeism in the Russian Federation!
                      1. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 12: 20 New
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                        Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
                        It's okay, no one has canceled anti-simeism in the Russian Federation!

                        Yes, it never happened in Russia, but Russophobia among the former "brothers and brothers" is more than enough.
                      2. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 22 New
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                        I would not say that! In Russia, just about everyone is blamed, but not himself! Monya,
                        You were in Odessa not for a Jew, and not even for a Jew. Well, you and Babchenko are purebred Malanians ....
                2. major147 28 December 2019 12: 21 New
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                  Quote: Marcus Aurelius_2
                  I am Kazakh

                  How I am Italian!
      2. Kazbek 28 December 2019 19: 42 New
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        Guys, drive it with crowbars from our cottage development !!! laughing
      3. Nikolai Korovin 29 December 2019 01: 14 New
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        No need to dramatize. It will start to run out of gas, it will freeze a little, Europe will freeze ... And the mattresses with their life-giving LNG are right there. Hooray!!! And then the petty bourgeois will analyze gas bills (they love this thing), and demonstrations will begin with the demand to immediately end the bodypack with SP-2. Time works for us. We won’t freeze, I suppose?
    5. ccsr 28 December 2019 12: 30 New
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      No! This is the defeat of the Russian Federation and Gazprom! We knelt down and Putin did not help!

      Do not panic - this is just one "battle" not won in the "Great Energy War", and it does not even draw to a decisive battle, such as the Stalingrad. In the strategic plan, Ukraine has already lost even in money - to be able to guarantee the transit of over 90 billion cubic meters. gas, and it will slide down to 40 billion, and even with reservations on acceptable transit costs, this can only be called a loss of war, especially given the fact that Ukrainians will have to invest part of the profit in the pipeline itself in order to maintain it in working condition. And given the vague prospects for Ukrainian transit in five years, we can safely say that Ukraine lost the gas war outright, despite the payment in court, the whole question is how long the agony of their gas transportation system will continue.
  2. Looking for 28 December 2019 15: 31 New
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    let the all-Russian defeat be enough to bring under an unpleasant forced maneuver.
  • Victor_B 28 December 2019 06: 38 New
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    Well, apparently she is. Peremoga.
    But if you count on the points ... Maybe it will turn out to be a hail!
    Personally, I do not have reliable analytics "from sources close", and I will never have them.
    1. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 49 New
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      Complete rout! Patriots can dodge as they want but facts: Kiev managed to recover more than $ 2 billion from Gazprom by decision of the Swedish Court of Appeal. In total, Naftogaz expects to receive about $ 4,6 billion from Russia in compensation for gas shortages. New payments are delaying the already difficult negotiations on gas transit between Kiev and Moscow. The current contract expires on December 31 of this year, the issue with the conclusion of a new or extension of the current has not yet been resolved.
      The head of Naftogaz Ukrainy, Andrey Kobolev, spoke about the details of debt collection from Gazprom in a lawsuit that was satisfied by the Stockholm arbitration. According to him, Kiev has already received from the Russian side almost half of the amount of compensation awarded in February 2018 by the Swedish judicial authorities.
      Kodolev said that we are talking about an amount of $ 2,1 billion. ”We reflected this part of the winnings in the financial statements and paid the corresponding taxes and dividends. Thus, this amount almost completely fell into the state budget of Ukraine, ”added the president of Naftogaz.
      In addition, the Ukrainian side emphasized that it is currently working to recover the remaining amount.
      According to Naftogaz’s calculations, Russia, taking into account interest, should pay Ukraine about another $ 3 billion
      Moreover, if Gazprom does not return the remaining amount, then Kiev intends to sell part of the assets of the Russian company after the decision of local courts.
      Moscow was forced to enter into a deal with Naftogaz after an appellate court in Svea County (Sweden) rejected Gazprom’s application for a decision by the Stockholm arbitration on a dispute with Naftogaz on gas supplies to Ukraine. Last Wednesday, November 27, the court refused to satisfy Gazprom’s complaint about the arbitration decision, which ordered it to pay $ 2,6 billion to Naftogaz
      It is reported by Rambler. Next: https://finance.rambler.ru/business/43286158/?utm_content=finance_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
    2. Nikolai Korovin 29 December 2019 01: 19 New
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      All the same, the all-round round-global zradoperemoga. The contract seems to have not been signed yet. The love of Europeans for dill is growing by leaps and bounds. They’ll take it and don’t sign it - oh, sho bude! That Schaub I Benya Kolomoisky Nicola not bachiv!
  • kjhg 28 December 2019 06: 45 New
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    Many words have already been said about the gas confrontation and how it ended. Kozak said that Russia escaped with real pennies. But to put it mildly, this is not true. Russia lost more than $ 5 billion in real money. It was forced to extend the transit of gas in a large volume. Moreover, the cost of pumping increased several times. The hostile authorities of Kiev got everything they wanted at the moment. But that's not all.
    Knowing their love of free money, in five years you can safely expect the filing of new lawsuits against Russia and Gazprom. In general, we were actually forced to keep this Nazi misunderstanding, which is also absolutely hostile to us. This is a real shame for our authorities.
    1. Qwertyarion 28 December 2019 07: 00 New
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      The cost of transporting gas inside the country is also growing, it’s also for someone
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      D16 28 December 2019 07: 54 New
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      Moreover, the cost of pumping increased several times.

      Can be more? How much was how much will be. Only with reference to the source.
    3. SHURUM -BURUM 28 December 2019 08: 27 New
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      I understand that specialists from Promgaz "sell", as it turns out, our gas for nothing. And they are accomplices of this change. If it were not for the “good will” of the helpers, we would have to give even more. If pilots are forced to pay for a broken plane, and a soldier for a tank, then why won't the Specialists take these specialists into development?
      1. Avior 28 December 2019 11: 01 New
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        why for nothing? with surcharge, it turns out. smile
        such a sales model - sold to someone something - pay extra!
        only highly effective managers work that way smile
        hi
    4. Black_Vatnik 28 December 2019 09: 10 New
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      In general, we were actually forced to keep this Nazi misunderstanding

      Good morning) As we were the main donor state of the Ukrainian economy, they remained even in the “hottest” years - 2014 and 2015, and we also remain such a donor in the future. While Scheinin on the “first” and Skabeeva on “Russia” fill the people in the ears about the Nazi state, official Russia continues to feed these Nazis with it. And I'm not talking about the annual hundreds of thousands of Gaster from Ukraine. As long as you consider it a shame, they consider it a bargain. Profitable not for the people or country, but beneficial personally for them.
      1. krops777 28 December 2019 11: 11 New
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        Good morning) As we were the main donor state of the Ukrainian economy, they remained even in the “hottest” years - 2014 and 2015, and we also remain such a donor in the future. While Scheinin on the “first” and Skabeeva on “Russia” fill the people in the ears about the Nazi state, official Russia continues to feed these Nazis by hand.



        In Ukraine, let’s you know, not only the Natsiks live, but our normal people who are held hostage by this system, we aren’t monstrous as their pro-Nazi authorities organized the blockade of the Crimea, even if we indirectly help these people, although it may be not properly.
        1. Black_Vatnik 28 December 2019 19: 26 New
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          Most of these "normal ours" in 2014 were also waiting for "Now we’ll enter and live in the EU." Without waiting for European buns, they suddenly remembered about May 9 and the general story. After Odessa on May 2, the normal ones were obliged to stand on their hind legs. But most of them preferred to sit in apartments ... I don’t need about normal ones. Now it’s not about the country, but about a regime that has been holding back the Kremlin’s aggression for 5 years, protecting Europe from the savage from the East, etc.
          But why pickle that ... you really don’t buy out that these 2.9 billion is a shameful slap on Russia's reputation? And from whom is a slap? From a peripheral state, with a destroyed economy, history, etc. etc.
      2. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 12: 19 New
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        You will probably be surprised, but no fewer Nazis live in Russia than in Ukraine! In general, in Ukraine there are a lot more adequate people who do not agree with the policies that are being carried out now in Ukraine!
        1. Black_Vatnik 28 December 2019 19: 26 New
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          Glory to Karina!
    5. bistrov. 28 December 2019 09: 18 New
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      Quote: kjhg
      Moreover, the cost of pumping increased several times.

      There is no data on the cost of pumping. What makes you think that she grew "several times"?
      Yes, and the "contract" has not yet been signed. There is only a preliminary agreement. Obviously, the last auction is underway.
    6. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 10: 34 New
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      You're right! complete defeat of the Russian Federation in front of Ukraine! Now Russia will raise gas tariffs for its people to make up for losses!
    7. Marcus Aurelius_2 28 December 2019 11: 38 New
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      Well, Kozak has a residence permit in Switzerland, so he is trying!
    8. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 11: 43 New
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      Quote: kjhg
      In general, we were actually forced to keep this Nazi misunderstanding

      Here you can’t argue with how you looked into the eye, “forced” it as well as pension reform.
    9. Winnie76 28 December 2019 12: 21 New
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      Moreover, the cost of pumping increased several times.

      And what is the contract already signed? And the price is known? Links to the studio. Otherwise, you buddy, balobol
    10. major147 28 December 2019 12: 24 New
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      This is a real shame for our authorities.

      From the part I agree with you, but what would you do in this situation?
    11. Vadim237 28 December 2019 16: 17 New
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      In five years, it will not matter for their transit, since Russia is increasing LNG supplies to Europe and by 2025 JV 2 and the second thread of the Turkish stream will be completed and launched, and the transit contract with Ukraine will end - nothing will be presented.
    12. tihonmarine 28 December 2019 21: 01 New
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      Quote: kjhg
      In general, we were actually forced to keep this Nazi misunderstanding, which is also absolutely hostile to us. This is a real shame for our authorities.

      On the first point I support you, I am also disgusted. And the last about our authorities, we don’t know the whole "kitchen" of the gas war, no one will tell us about this. The authorities will not say, and Gazprom is a secret behind seven seals. Wait and see.
    13. ccsr 29 December 2019 10: 43 New
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      Quote: kjhg
      But to put it mildly, this is not true. Russia lost more than $ 5 billion in real money.

      What did you get this figure from?
      Quote: kjhg
      It was forced to extend the transit of gas in a large volume.

      This is not true - transit was reduced by more than two times, not counting 2020, during which they will complete the construction of SP-2.
      Quote: kjhg
      Knowing their love of free money, in five years you can safely expect the filing of new lawsuits against Russia and Gazprom.

      Not knowing how things will turn out on the European gas market in five years, it is possible that we ourselves will have to ask Ukraine to increase the volume of annual pumping through their territory, especially taking into account how Europeans began to fight for the environment.
      Quote: kjhg
      In general, we were actually forced to keep this Nazi misunderstanding, which is also absolutely hostile to us.

      In general, as they say in the preference, "There are no sadder stories in the world than a trump card four by four," so if the cards are laid down like this, you don’t have to tear your hair out because baldness is unlikely to decorate you. You just need to really look at the situation, and not think that Ukraine will suddenly disappear on its own or that the Great October Maidan Revolution will happen there.
      Quote: kjhg
      This is a real shame for our authorities.

      There is no particular shame - the USSR also built gas pipelines and drove gas to Europe, and there were problems too, and so wait until at least the summer of 2020 to make it clear who and how dishonored.
  • Mountain shooter 28 December 2019 06: 55 New
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    Be that as it may, the cheek burns, as if from a slap in the face ... Not without the help of the strip-eared, who “broke” the SP-2 theme together with Denmark. Synchronously worked ...
    1. Mytholog 28 December 2019 07: 02 New
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      There is no synchronicity here.
      The Nord Stream stopper is the direct reason for such a concession. Otherwise, the losses would be even greater.
      Well ... learn from mistakes. I want to believe (
      1. 210ox 28 December 2019 07: 23 New
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        Let's take a look at the communal service receipts. How much will this concession result for us ordinary citizens.
        1. Gray brother 28 December 2019 11: 07 New
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          Quote: 210ox
          . How much this concession will result for us, ordinary citizens.

          Gazprom shares sold to pension funds)))) I think that not much.
    2. Qwertyarion 28 December 2019 07: 10 New
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      Be that as it may, the cheek burns, as if from a slap in the face ...

      And from the growth of tariffs for housing and communal services does not burn?
      1. Mountain shooter 28 December 2019 07: 42 New
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        And what kind of growth? 20% or 30? ...
        Quote: Qwertyarion

        And from the growth of tariffs for housing and communal services does not burn

        While I do not notice anything like this ... Enlighten?
        1. Qwertyarion 28 December 2019 07: 58 New
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          Twice a year they raise.
          1. Mountain shooter 28 December 2019 07: 59 New
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            Quote: Qwertyarion
            Twice a year raise

            How much?
          2. Gray brother 28 December 2019 11: 07 New
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            Quote: Qwertyarion
            Twice a year they raise.

            In dill?
  • Gardamir 28 December 2019 06: 58 New
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    A good continuation to the topic of liberals. There are no liberals; there are people who hate Russia and love their homeland.
    How can you characterize the first two comments, but they do not care, they again have a tricky plan.
    And then the United States delivered an ultimatum to the builders of the northern stream, in fact, declaring war on Russia. But again, there will be figures who will shout that this is good.
    1. rotmistr60 28 December 2019 07: 13 New
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      How can you characterize the first two comments, but they do not care, they again have a tricky plan.
      And, what did you personally see in my comment that it indicates that I "don't care" and that I "hate the Motherland"? Maybe before rushing to accusations it is worth learning to read carefully?
      1. Gardamir 28 December 2019 07: 22 New
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        You wrote from someone who really did it.
        We have already lost three times. Paying tribute to America through Ukraine, surrendering positions along the northern stream and who will come to the victory privatized by the liberals (exactly with a small letter) Since the tricolor show has nothing to do with the battle of our ancestors.
        Once again, paying tribute to Russia is a humiliating defeat, but continue to pray to these authorities, on the geniuses of foreign policy. It will take 20 years and you will remember Putin as Yeltsin.
        1. Nevsky_ZU 28 December 2019 08: 29 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          It will take 20 years and you will remember Putin as Yeltsin.

          But I do not agree with this. You can hang a lot of things on Putin, but equating him with the Yeltsin era, this hyper exaggeration is simple. God forbid again this for Russia.
          1. Gardamir 28 December 2019 12: 11 New
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            God forbid again this for Russia.
            Here you are a little wrong with the events.
            So the play in three acts. The first act on stage is labeled. His task is to make everyone understand that it is impossible to live in a house called the Soviet Union. To do this, bugs, cockroaches and rats were brought into the house. And in the end they turned off the light and gas. But people were inspired. that it always has been. All the power of state propaganda was put on discrediting the state. And they did it, came blue. he broke everything. After all, you wanted socialism with a human market face. The house was demolished, many died under the ruins. On the ruins put a new home. Then came the right one (not drinking, not smoking). All that was left for him was to equip the new capitalist house. "Eat" the best apartments, but let the sneaky people in the basement live and rejoice over the Christmas tree
    2. Stirbjorn 28 December 2019 09: 20 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      How can you characterize the first two comments, but they do not care, they again have a tricky plan.

      Only in VO I finally understood who these quilted jackets are .... earlier for me it was something abstract, such as just an offensive nickname
      1. Banshee 28 December 2019 09: 29 New
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        The only consolation is the fact that this category of citizens is declining.
        1. kepmor 28 December 2019 14: 24 New
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          recalls the 80s ... the "refrigerator" is replaying the "box" more and more ... empty pockets squeeze the brains more and more ...
          not the best option ... but in a different way, apparently, not to get through ...
  • Vladimir_2U 28 December 2019 07: 08 New
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    "the bulk of the funds will go to the development of gas production in Ukraine"In a single Israel! Or whose citizenship do all the VNAUkrainian leaders have there?
  • Self 28 December 2019 07: 15 New
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    The United States, having imposed on Russia at one time, a favorable Constitution, in which international organizations have the right to dictate any conditions to it, do not themselves recognize the decisions of any courts other than their own. As long as Russia allows it to bend down in all sorts of Stockholm and Geneva, there is no need to be indignant, but it is necessary to pay. Tear yourself away and pay and pay. Who stopped 20 years ago to remove these humiliating points? What, people against it? It’s not so simple to mean, and this state of affairs is clearly beneficial for someone. You can even guess who.
  • igorlvov 28 December 2019 07: 20 New
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    more interesting
    Ukraine announced receipt of $ XNUMX billion from Gazprom
    https://lenta.ru/news/2019/12/27/dolzhok/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0Uk5MP-u4PkTqS5-IizBUJxKfIgj1hwbloz3jGRn6BguG3TsQyg_Cg31Y
    1. Brturin 28 December 2019 11: 14 New
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      Quote: igorlvov
      even more interesting Ukraine announced receipt of five billion dollars from Gazprom

      But where did they come from - there were only two court decisions
      Of the claims claimed by Naftogaz in the amount of $ 17 billion, the arbitrators satisfied the claims in the amount of $ 4,673 billion in connection with the supply of gas for its transit to European consumers to a lesser extent than was stipulated by the contract. Given the amount previously awarded to Gazprom for the supply contract the arbitrators offset the counterclaims, according to which Gazprom is obliged to pay Naftogaz $ 2,56 billion.
      https://topwar.ru/136978-gazprom-ne-soglasilsya-s-resheniem-stokgolmskogo-arbitrazha-po-vyplate-naftogazu-256-mlrd.html
      If Gazprom paid 4,76 with %%, then
      Gazprom notes that Naftogaz is silent about the need to pay $ 2 billion. It is this amount that Ukraine must pay to the Russian Federation for arrears.
      https://topwar.ru/132571-reshenie-stokgolmskogo-arbitrazha-po-rossiysko-ukrainskomu-gazovomu-sporu-i-kto-pobedil.html.
  • Vitaly Tsymbal 28 December 2019 07: 25 New
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    Zelensky is right! True, this is not a victory, this is a gain .... And no matter how the jingo-patriots in both states “hesitate”, a fact is a fact. Personally, to me as a Russian, to whom the president of my country, from the TV screen declares the "delirium" of the Stockholm court, and two days later the payment of money by this "delirious" decision occurs - it is very unpleasant. Not nice, not because my country has lost 2,9 mln. dol., but because they deceived me, and the president deceived me. The situation with gas exports will change sooner or later, but the sediment from cheating will remain for a long time ....
    1. kepmor 28 December 2019 07: 31 New
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      and why so worry then ... well, deceived, well, what of this ??? ... for the first time or something ??? ...
      for 20 years it’s time to get used to this lie ... over the years, so much is communicated and re-promised ...
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal 28 December 2019 07: 46 New
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        And I don’t worry ... I personally do not lose anything from this payment and gain nothing. It’s just time to change power in the elections of 24 years, peacefully ... although more and more I want to “Aurora” and use it for symbolic and historical purposes angry
        1. Nevsky_ZU 28 December 2019 08: 36 New
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          . although more and more I want to “Aurora” and use it for symbolic and historical purposes

          If you have problems in your country, arrange a revolution - and you will understand that in your country
          there were no problems.

          1. Kronos 28 December 2019 10: 55 New
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            Chupukha Coup may bring grief and revolution is good
    2. Crystal of Truth 28 December 2019 07: 37 New
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      Well, he did not cheat. Any loser side considers the court decision delusional, but fulfills ..
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      D16 28 December 2019 07: 50 New
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      Gazprom should have slammed the door and sent Brussels along with Stockholm for educational purposes. But how then to work with them? At stake is not frail loot, compared with which five billion is so, a trifle on hats laughing .
      1. Crystal of Truth 28 December 2019 07: 52 New
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        And how to pump gas, how to fulfill contracts?
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          D16 28 December 2019 07: 58 New
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          And how to pump gas, how to fulfill contracts?

          If you are me, then I asked the exact same question:
          But how then to work with them?
      2. ccsr 28 December 2019 12: 39 New
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        Gazprom should have slammed the door and sent Brussels along with Stockholm for educational purposes.

        In no case - now there is a court in London, and Ukraine will be obliged to pay the debt to us with interest in the amount of $ 4,5 billion. So we should never do this if we want to return our money, especially that until they are returned, the placement of government securities of Ukraine will be banned on all trading floors. And this is very painful for the economy of any country, and everyone knows about it. So, as our poet said, it’s not yet evening ...
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          D16 28 December 2019 16: 38 New
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          In no case - now there is a court in London, and the State of Ukraine will be obliged to pay us a debt with interest in the amount of $ 4,5 billion.

          You have a bad habit of pulling a phrase out of context.
          So we should by no means do this if we want to return our money, especially since until they are returned, the placement of government securities of Ukraine will be prohibited on all trading floors.

          Gentlemen allow rules to be changed during the game. So I won’t be surprised even by the most illogical decision of the London court.
          1. ccsr 28 December 2019 17: 53 New
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            You have a bad habit of pulling a phrase out of context.

            Didn't you offer to slam the door?
            Quote: D16
            So I won’t be surprised even by the most illogical decision of the London court.

            It is possible, but first you need to wait for such a decision, if any.
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              D16 28 December 2019 22: 36 New
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              Didn't you offer to slam the door?

              If you read to the end, you would understand that no.
              \
              It is possible, but first you need to wait for such a decision, if any.

              there will be no decision in our favor. They have been trying to recoup for all their shoals since the Crimean War. What was the cost of the light cavalry attack and we save the women and children in the first place. The nature was also against the invasion.
              It looks messy, but it is.
              1. ccsr 29 December 2019 10: 22 New
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                What was the cost of the light cavalry attack and we save the women and children in the first place.

                You would have trumped Cromwell - then certainly everyone would understand your logic of understanding modern financial relations ...
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                  D16 29 December 2019 10: 54 New
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                  The decision of the Stockholm arbitration also does not fit into the logic of financial relations. Wait, see. smile
    4. SHURUM -BURUM 28 December 2019 08: 34 New
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      ... declares the "delirious" of the Stockholm court, and two days later .... This is called “Swing on the ruble, hit on a penny,” I add, tail tightened. Unfortunately, most high-profile statements end there.
    5. Alex Justice 28 December 2019 10: 47 New
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      Personally, to me as a Russian, to whom the president of my country, from the TV screen declares the "delirium" of the Stockholm court, and two days later the payment of money by this "delirious" decision occurs - it is very unpleasant. Not nice, not because my country has lost 2,9 mln. dol., but because they deceived me, and the president deceived me.

      Where is the hype? Why slander Putin? The court decision seems delusional, but perhaps the decision is not delusional, we do not know all the details. This is a court decision. Like or not, the decision is to fulfill. Putin said everything correctly, he did not deceive anyone.
    6. Winnie76 28 December 2019 13: 01 New
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      Not nice, not because my country has lost 2,9 mln. dollars., but because I was deceived, and the president deceived

      Gazprom lost in court, and the conclusion from this "deceived the president." Vitaly, I am powerless to trace this logical chain. You are simply the king of logic.
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      Personally, to me as a Russian, to whom the president of my country, from the TV screen declares the "delirium" of the Stockholm court, and two days later the payment of money by this "delirious" decision occurs - it is very unpleasant.

      Me too. But life doesn’t consist only of pleasant moments.
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      The situation with gas exports will change sooner or later, but the sediment from cheating will remain for a long time ..

      Sadly, how are you going to live with such sediment now? laughing
  • Crystal of Truth 28 December 2019 07: 42 New
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    The trouble is not that they paid the money to Ukraine and conclude a contract ..
    The trouble is that they forgot the wise words- "Do not boast about going to the army" ..
    Now, propagandists of all stripes have to change their shoes urgently ..
    Sorry for them)))
  • Thrifty 28 December 2019 07: 44 New
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    This is just the beginning! A month will not pass from Ukraine lawsuits will go to the European courts, demanding the arrest of our assets in a foreign country! Blackmail will become even more sophisticated and arrogant! And the country's authorities received another disgrace, not far from the war. ..
    1. Vitaly Tsymbal 28 December 2019 07: 53 New
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      And who will we fight with? It’s necessary to prepare .. otherwise, “if tomorrow is war, if tomorrow is camping” and I “dismantled” my alarming suitcase. laughing
      1. Thrifty 28 December 2019 07: 58 New
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        Vitaliy Tsimbal hi -I don’t know who we’ll fight with, but I know that almost the entire NATO unit will push against us and driven by the United States, and the Japanese will at least climb from the Far East. ...
    2. D16
      D16 28 December 2019 08: 06 New
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      A month will not pass from Ukraine lawsuits to the European courts will go

      No, they won’t manage to cash out and capitalize three lard a month. But a lot of walking on the New Year holidays.no
      Here later. Again begins "In connection with the difficult economic situation" laughing
      demanding the arrest of our assets in a foreign country!

      And a lot there Your assets? lol
    3. ccsr 28 December 2019 12: 44 New
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      This is just the beginning! A month will not pass from Ukraine lawsuits will go to the European courts, demanding the arrest of our assets in a foreign country!

      It’s complete nonsense - once we have recognized the court’s decision, we will transfer the indicated amount to Naftogaz by bank transfer, and therefore no one will arrest anything. But if Ukraine does not comply with the decision of the London court to return the state debt of $ 4,5 billion after the refusal of the appeal, then Ukrainians will have to fear the arrest of their state property abroad.
    4. Winnie76 28 December 2019 13: 06 New
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      This is just the beginning! A month will not pass from Ukraine lawsuits will go to the European courts, demanding the arrest of our assets in a foreign country!

      In this case, Gazprom itself prescribed the Stockholm arbitration in the contract. Now he pays for it.
  • Paul Siebert 28 December 2019 07: 57 New
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    It is striking that people in both countries talk about this garbage.
    Dill thieves seized three green lards from Russian thieves.
    From this people are neither cold nor hot.
    Money flowed from one pocket to another.
    And then this thief together went to drink vodka under the baked pig.
    Because, as - overpower! Everyone won ...
    1. Vitaly Tsymbal 28 December 2019 08: 21 New
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      Thieves do not sue, thieves squeeze each other !!!! A big gangway gathered and decided - let the authorities resolve the misunderstandings. Authorities (in Sweden) also decided on the concepts - in connection with the depletion of the Ukrainian community, let the brothers from Russia help their brothers from Ukraine wassat
  • Ross xnumx 28 December 2019 08: 14 New
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    I live in Russia and I’m deeply hit by someone’s drumming and sickness. I am simply enraged by frank cynicism when people (worthless in life and useless in practice, are appropriated some merits, ascribed high efficiency, appointed not weak financial maintenance, but in the end it turns out that they simply are not able to conduct state business without lowering the state itself and without imposing fines on this stupid business.
    This is not Gazprom paying $ 2; we are impoverishing us by 900 rubles, depriving ourselves of unfinished schools, hospitals, kindergartens and housing in exchange for emergency. This we will remain with unfinished objects, underdeveloped, under-received state subsidies against the background of the brazen, cynical physiognomy of this figure:
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      I live in Russia and I’m deeply hit by someone’s drumming and sickness. I am simply enraged by frank cynicism when people (worthless in life and useless in practice, are appropriated some merits, ascribed high efficiency, appointed not weak financial maintenance, but in the end it turns out that they simply are not able to conduct state business without lowering the state itself and without imposing fines on this stupid business.
      This is not Gazprom paying $ 2; we are impoverishing us by 900 rubles, depriving ourselves of unfinished schools, hospitals, kindergartens and housing in exchange for emergency. This we will remain with unfinished objects, underdeveloped, under-received state subsidies against the background of the brazen, cynical physiognomy of this figure:


      I join every word. But the photo lacks yet another arrogant but cynical face - his employer.
    2. ccsr 28 December 2019 12: 46 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      I live in Russia and I’m deeply hit by someone’s drumming and sickness. Frank cynicism infuriates me,

      In order not to infuriate, you had to stay in the USSR, but you personally didn’t want this, so get what you aspired to by your naivety.
      1. Ross xnumx 28 December 2019 14: 57 New
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        Quote: ccsr
        In order not to infuriate, you had to stay in the USSR, but you personally didn’t want this, so get what you aspired to by your naivety.

        I will not even evaluate your comment, because unlike you, I voted for the preservation of the USSR. And after that, the EBN gas criminal group didn’t ask anyone ... I only voted for the successor for the first time, hoping for the best.
        Premonitions did not deceive me. And, as regards naivety, I repent - I invested vouchers in some kind of investment fund and I look forward to compensation of deposits from Gref ...
        repeat
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          I will not even evaluate your comment, because unlike you, I voted for the preservation of the USSR.

          And it was necessary not to vote for the USSR, but to go out to the barricades when the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was banned — that is when voting to preserve the USSR was possible. What is the point that you voted if those who planned the liquidation of the Soviet regime wanted to spit on your opinion?
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Premonitions did not deceive me.

          You are not the only one, so don’t sprinkle ashes on your head - better explain to your descendants what mistake they made so that they at least understand the advantages of that system. Maybe they will succeed, unlike us, who have missed out on the great Fatherland.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          and waiting

          This is the whole misfortune of our fellow citizens, unlike those who did not wait in 1917, but took all power into their hands.
    3. Vadim237 28 December 2019 16: 27 New
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      Actually, they didn’t deprive, due to the last increase in oil prices by $ 6 - the budget was replenished by 350 billion rubles, and the federal program for regional infrastructure development doesn’t lose anything and will not lose from the fact that Gazprom paid Ukraine 187 billion rubles - because Gazprom equity of 12 trillion rubles. Less panic and tantrums from scratch.
  • rocket757 28 December 2019 08: 15 New
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    . Zelensky on the payment of $ 2,9 billion by Gazprom: This is another change

    Time will tell.
  • Pied Piper 28 December 2019 08: 18 New
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    The President of Ukraine declared "victory" (in the Ukrainian version - "overpower")

    Potroshenko could not, but Zelensky bent Russia (with Jewish comrades) ..
    But we still will not go to the recognition of the junta in Kiev! hi
    1. Kronos 28 December 2019 10: 58 New
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      Wake up long recognized
      1. Pied Piper 28 December 2019 11: 16 New
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        Quote: Kronos
        Wake up long recognized

        Moscow may be, but not the Urals and Siberia!
        1. Kronos 28 December 2019 11: 25 New
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          I did not know that the Urals and Siberia are separate countries
          1. Pied Piper 28 December 2019 15: 53 New
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            Quote: Kronos
            I did not know that the Urals and Siberia are separate countries

            This is the backbone of RUSSIA ..!
  • Edik 28 December 2019 08: 34 New
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    Gas cannot go in one direction in half of the pipe, and in the other half in the other half.

    Maybe! Proved by Sylvester!
  • tap
    tap 28 December 2019 08: 39 New
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    That is not nonsense ... Miller said three years ago that in the 19th contract ends, and then a cookie, not transit.
  • Moskovit 28 December 2019 09: 09 New
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    "Pennies" paid. The question is, will Ukraine pay its 3 billion to Russia?
  • Densel 28 December 2019 09: 38 New
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    5 billion dollars that Gazprom will pay to Ukraine is 325 billion rubles. To spend at least one tenth of this money on the Kremlin’s clever political technology work in Ukraine — no one would have happened.
    However, the same story is repeated with Belarus.
    1. Roman070280 28 December 2019 11: 17 New
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      5 billion US invested in Ukraine, while completely changing the course of this country ..
      And we pay them the same money .. ka .. I will not say anything ..
  • Bear040 28 December 2019 10: 16 New
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    I have to agree that having grabbed nearly 3 mln bucks from the Russian Federation due to the fault of supposedly effective managers of the GDP, whom it was high time to dismiss for inadequacy of their position, or to imprison for outright sabotage, Bandera won in one battle, but not in the war ... she only begins and victory does not shine for them
  • Sergst 28 December 2019 11: 01 New
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    ... Moreover, the cost of pumping increased several times ...
    "about several times" have not yet heard where such information came from? It seems that Ukraine will receive significantly less for transit than it wanted, although more than under the Tymoshenko contract. The numbers on the VO were they wrong?
    1. Roman070280 28 December 2019 11: 14 New
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      I heard somewhere that with a decrease in volume (from 100 to 60), Ukraine will receive even more than before .. (if I'm not mistaken, 4 billion, instead of 3)
      1. Sergst 28 December 2019 11: 52 New
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        Not so, for 65bn. in 2020, Ukraine will receive $ 32 per thousand cubic meters. That is a little more than 2 billion. I can be a little mistaken. So 4 billion. A clear exaggeration, or it is not about one year.
  • Alien From 28 December 2019 11: 01 New
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    Let the chances be choked! We will find a council on them, but only before their mattresses are gutted .....!
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      Let the chances be choked!

      But you are right in essence - they will really choke, because in the long run no one will need their GTS, and will bring nothing except losses.
      1. Alien From 28 December 2019 13: 17 New
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        That is what I had in mind! Maybe it’s hard said, so the brothers didn’t really beguiled the shores, and for a long time!
      2. Looking for 28 December 2019 15: 43 New
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        you die today, and I tomorrow.
        1. ccsr 28 December 2019 17: 51 New
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          Quote: Seeker
          you die today, and I tomorrow.

          What makes you think that Russia will die from the fact that there were temporary problems with Ukrainian transit?
  • Roman070280 28 December 2019 11: 13 New
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    Yes, just something for 1,5 thousand from each Russian .. nonsense ..
    The main thing is that before that they managed to yell at liberty about Bandera who are killing Russian people in the Donbass ..
    Has anyone watched Solovyov ?? What did he sing about this, interesting ??
    1. Kronos 28 December 2019 11: 34 New
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      As usual, screaming that this is a victory
  • svp67 28 December 2019 11: 39 New
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    Victory, then it is victory. That's just the United States, not Ukraine
    1. Kronos 28 December 2019 12: 53 New
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      Ukrainian oligarchs will also warm their hands on this matter
  • Guards turn 28 December 2019 11: 52 New
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    "The last days of the past year are coming.
    This year was difficult for the fraternal peoples.
    As you know this year
    We had to survive the war.

    But there are new frontiers ahead
    But there is a new life ahead.
    There will be many great victories
    There will be a new world dawn "...
  • Heisenberg 28 December 2019 12: 07 New
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    The most important moment in all this comedy that excites me the most. What will be the size of New Year's awards for brilliant managers of Gazprom? How many millions of greens will each get before they fly away to their yachts?
  • Fitter65 28 December 2019 12: 51 New
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    The President of Ukraine declared “victory” (in the Ukrainian version - “overpowering”) in connection with the obligations fulfilled by Gazprom in the framework of the decision of the Stockholm arbitration. We are talking about the transfer of funds in the amount of $ 2,9 billion by Gazprom to Ukraine.
    And why did you take the words-victory / overwhelming in quotation marks? This is a real VICTORY (PEREMOGA - in the Ukrainian version) that the effective managers of Gazprom presented to Bandera.
  • Old Horseradish 28 December 2019 13: 22 New
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    These ghouls robbed the elderly, taking their pensions. But they, in turn, raped punished brothers Ukrainians. So everything is in the way and everything is fine. On the cunning .... there is always .... Something like that.
    And now the zombies will drag out a song by the fire: "Tricky plan, give toxic bills, Chinese brothers, give Berlin."
    Everything as usual.
    1. Kronos 28 December 2019 15: 12 New
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      Alas, Gazprom will not lose money from the people
  • Connor MacLeod 28 December 2019 15: 31 New
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    Let's hijack the Ukraine cruiser! am
  • Looking for 28 December 2019 15: 38 New
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    This is a real shame for our authorities.

    Well, you can somehow survive the shame. But here's how to survive the complete inability and incompetence of the Russian leadership in managing the country.
  • Crimean partisan 1974 28 December 2019 15: 50 New
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    that the bulk of the funds will go to the development of gas production in Ukraine, as well as to repay loans ........ laughed at, some of the funds for gas production are not available and repayment of loans in the amount of 130 lard of fag. Yeah. and where is the rest
  • malyvalv 28 December 2019 15: 54 New
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    We must also recall the billions of injections of Sberbank and VTB into the budget of Ukraine in the hope of preserving the business there. Well ? Did it help? The sad thing is that you can’t deal with Ukraine from the word at all. In addition to losses, this will lead to nothing. The fact that they gave 3 yards will be forgotten by both Ukrainians and Europeans tomorrow. And they will roll out new claims in a new way, regardless of any contracts. The court sentenced the same 3 yards, not relying on clauses of the agreement, but on the "difficult economic situation" of Ukraine. What is the problem to repeat?
    Need to tie with Europe. The highways were banned, the engines for our corvettes were banned, the pipe layers were taken away. They have come to contracts with us, but for some reason we are all trying to show ourselves to them as a decent partner. They want to buy gas - let them buy. They don’t want - do not. This should be their headache 100% and not ours.
    1. Connor MacLeod 28 December 2019 16: 15 New
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      Quote: malyvalv
      We must also recall the billions of injections of Sberbank and VTB into the budget of Ukraine in the hope of preserving the business there. Well ? Did it help?

      If you are talking about the $ 3 yard ablation that we bought in 2013 and which they refused to repay, then the High Court of London ordered Ukraine to pay us $ 4,5 yards (there have already accumulated interest), and already rejected 3 appeals from Ukraine. The process is going on ...

      https://tass.ru/politika/7302823
    2. ccsr 28 December 2019 18: 05 New
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      The sad thing is that you can’t deal with Ukraine from the word at all. In addition to losses, this will lead to nothing.

      Quite right, that is how all relations with these banderlogs should be built.
      Quote: malyvalv
      Need to tie with Europe.

      But this is counterproductive - we are too integrated into the European economy, and for us losses will exceed revenues from such a step. Therefore, with Europeans, we should only expand economic ties, playing on their internal contradictions, and especially in relation to US interests.
    3. Vadim237 28 December 2019 19: 37 New
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      And also on some Ukrainian products, Russia imposed a ban on imports.
  • Ros 56 28 December 2019 15: 56 New
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    Life will show hu from hu. Laughs the one who laughs last.
  • Adimius38 28 December 2019 16: 18 New
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    nowhere to go nowhere Russia was pressed economically on all fronts; in general, they threw pipes and the ships escaped, fearing sanctions. Therefore, a necessary measure is to make some concessions in order to remove some of the restrictions and claims.
  • Fantazer911 28 December 2019 17: 14 New
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    With teeth and mental stomping of legs, We pulled out a peramoga, how long will the table be set?
  • Esaul 28 December 2019 17: 42 New
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    Our authorities can beat and deceive only their own people, because they will remain silent and endure everything.
  • BAI
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    This is, of course, "overpowering" Ukraine. And we do not know the terms of the transit agreement. It is possible that for the mythical rejection of further claims of Ukraine, Russia will abandon the real debt of 3 billion dollars for state credit. So far, only Russia pays, Ukraine - not a dime.
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      Quote: BAI
      This is, of course, "overpowering" Ukraine. And we do not know the terms of the transit agreement. It is possible that for the mythical rejection of further claims of Ukraine, Russia will abandon the real debt of 3 billion dollars for state credit.

      Will not refuse. There is already a judgment of the Court in our favor. But this is all a topic for another discussion ...

      Quote: BAI
      So far, only Russia pays, Ukraine - not a dime.

      Well, not quite. They collected $ 2,16 billion from Ukraine itself (with Gazprom requirements of $ 37 billion), and $ 4,67 billion from Russia (with Naftogaz requirements of $ 27 billion).

      Read more about here:
      https://tass.ru/info/7396315

      If in brief in 2014 we canceled all gas discounts for Ukraine and they tried to prove in court that this decision was illegal and that Russia should return the overpaid money. Most of these requirements were rejected. But on the other hand, most of Russia's demands to pay for gas shortages for the same period were rejected (the contract provided for the minimum volume of gas purchases and fines for shortfalls). In addition, we were forced to pay fines for under-delivered gas for transit (this was also stipulated by the agreement). Well, in general, so-so Peremoga ...
  • Alexey from Perm 28 December 2019 17: 50 New
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    No one doubts that the observatory of "effective managers" led by Lech Miller was a noble one.
  • Dzafdet 28 December 2019 19: 28 New
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    Damn, the documents signed where? Here we’ll see what, where and to whom it will go ...
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    nothing has changed after 100 years.