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The Aviationist became interested in the afterburner on Tu-22M3 with NK-25 engines

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The Aviationist portal commented on the video of starting the NK-25 engines on the Russian long-range bomber Tu-22M3, finding it curious. The tests took place in Zhukovsky near Moscow, on the territory of the Flight Research Institute named after M.M. Gromov, and the video itself was published on December 22.


This video portal considers it extremely remarkable for several reasons. The main thing is that here for the first time such a detailed detailing of the engine sequence is shown and, in particular, the operation of its afterburner is displayed. The Aviationist indicates that a blue flame is observed on the recording, indicating complete combustion of the fuel. On western aircraft, the flame is usually orange.

The Aviationist also emphasized the fact that the Tu-22M3 unexpectedly held fast afterburner after take-off, which also cannot be called ordinary practice.

We don’t know what task was performed or what test this Tu-22M3 passed, but it is obvious that it took longer afterburner than usual

- noted in the text.

At present, according to open sources, the Russian Air Forces are armed with more than sixty Tu-22M of various modifications.

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  1. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 26 December 2019 12: 13
    +14
    The take-off video in the evening is very beautiful. And the plane itself is elegant, of course.
    And about the long and the furious is really interesting. So will he eat all the fuel on take-off, or not?
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 26 December 2019 12: 34
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And about the long afterburner is really interesting

      This is also the subtleties of translation, you can not focus on this. We will admire the handsome Tu-22M3
      1. opus
        opus 26 December 2019 13: 57
        +18
        Quote: bober1982
        This is also the subtleties of translation, you can not focus on this.


        no, that's right
        Third, it's pretty unusual for an aircraft (especially for a strategic bomber) to keep afterburner so long after taking off: unless it is a fighter jet in QRA (Quick Reaction Alert), scrambled to intercept an unknown or “renegade” traffic, once the jet has reached a safe altitude and speed seconds after taking to the air, the pilot usually reduces the throttles as reheat is no longer needed, reducing thrust and fuel consumption.


        Thirdly, for an airplane (especially for a strategic bomber) it’s rather unusual to hold the afterburner for a long time after take-off: unless it’s fighters / RAF Typhoons / from QRA (quick reaction forces) picked up for interception, as they had in London to intercept an unknown La (N725SH, former El Al B767 4X-EAN), as a rule, after reaching a safe altitude and speed within a few seconds after takeoff, the pilot reduces traction (throttles switches to non-forced mode), less traction and fuel consumption.

        vs


        Quote: voyaka uh
        . So will he eat all the fuel on take-off, or not?

        no. The pit does not have to fly to intercept your convoys in the Atlantic
        In general, he (David Cenciotti) is reasoning / hinting, and not whether the Russians “straddled” the energy of the molecular radicals CH and C2, which emit most of their light in the blue region of the visible spectrum ...

        The blue color is determined by the characteristic electromagnetic radiation of the cleavage of the CH bond, the formation of C and H radicals, and recombination with O radicals to form CO2 and H2O.

        vs

        Orange is a characteristic blackbody radiation wavelength of about 1500K, ~ 1200 degrees Celsius
        1. opus
          opus 26 December 2019 13: 58
          +3
          Quote: opus
          Orange is a characteristic blackbody radiation wavelength of about 1500K, ~ 1200 degrees Celsius


          Threat. Now the Operator (Andrey) will appear and write that all Western GE engines sucks and Israel bred on the F-35 ....
          THOUGH

          wassat
        2. bober1982
          bober1982 26 December 2019 14: 03
          0
          To be honest, I did not quite understand.
          Quote: opus
          In general, he (David Cenciotti) is reasoning / hinting, and not whether the Russians “straddled” the energy of the molecular radicals CH and C2, which emit most of their light in the blue region of the visible spectrum ...

          Fantasy too much, this David Cenciotti
          1. opus
            opus 26 December 2019 14: 21
            +5
            Quote: bober1982
            To be honest, I did not quite understand.

            Part of the energy in the RD is lost with the escape "just like that" of free radicals, is not converted into thrust / momentum
            Using the effect of free radicals is a good prospect in RD
    2. cost
      cost 26 December 2019 12: 46
      +4
      but is it a test of the latest T-8V3 M2E5 jet fuel with the addition of the mysterious liquid ZDI that has been talked about so much?
      1. opus
        opus 26 December 2019 14: 13
        +3
        Quote: Rich
        but is it a test of the latest T-8V3 M2E5 jet fuel

        no since
        1. Hindus did not pour it

        2. We have been sitting here for a long time

    3. Shooter22
      Shooter22 26 December 2019 13: 15
      +2
      No, it will not gobble up. He has a cruising supersonic afterburner. True, the range on it falls twice.
    4. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 26 December 2019 16: 17
      +7
      I remember standing in the outfit in the fleet, and watching the flights! The strip about six hundred meters from our unit began. Climb up on the box and sit smoking and dangling legs)))) The spectacle at sunset is breathtaking! Not to mention the sounds! Only then we had 22M2 in the division.
    5. axiles100682
      axiles100682 26 December 2019 17: 10
      +1
      Well, it’s written that they experienced something that is unknown. Perhaps he had such a task longer on afterburner before takeoff, during takeoff and for some time after takeoff, and then immediately landing?
  2. Evil543
    Evil543 26 December 2019 12: 14
    +23
    The main thing is that the gay men do not watch the video, sign 30, and the guys on the afterburner good
  3. bober1982
    bober1982 26 December 2019 12: 14
    +2
    Curious guys, well done, fast and furious - this is what you can admire.
    A little inaccuracy, these guys, when they say, ........ complete combustion of fuel (blue flame), of course, indicates the completeness of fuel combustion.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 26 December 2019 12: 25
      +2
      A small inaccuracy in these guys, when they claim to ........ complete combustion of fuel (blue flame), of course, indicates the completeness of combustion of fuel.


      These are the subtleties and difficulties of translating into Russian. It is not worth focusing on this.
  4. Eug
    Eug 26 December 2019 12: 37
    +3
    Previously, only in the Crimea two regiments stood ...
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 26 December 2019 13: 04
      0
      Over the village, we switched to supersonic. And as soon as the windows did not fly out? request
  5. pavelty
    pavelty 26 December 2019 12: 41
    +14
    I was pleased with the technician releasing the aircraft and talking on the phone) I would have been killed in due time for this
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 26 December 2019 12: 54
      +4
      Quote: pavlentiy
      Pleased technician releasing a plane and talking on the phone

      I talked with the crew, reported, wished a happy flight .... laughing
      1. yustas
        yustas 26 December 2019 14: 50
        +6
        Yeah, yes, but the crew at that time was one in Viber, the second in Watsapp wassat drinks
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 26 December 2019 13: 14
      +6
      I was pleased with the technician releasing the aircraft and talking on the phone) I would have been killed in due time for this
      The most interesting thing about this: what can he hear there through the pipe? Next to running engines. Often you just walk along the street and you don’t always hear what they blink into the phone. And here...
  6. mlad
    mlad 26 December 2019 13: 05
    0
    And who will tell you what kind of seaplane in the background?
    1. Morituri68
      Morituri68 26 December 2019 16: 07
      +3
      http://planephoto.ru/vehicle/7501/
      Flying boat ASK-62
      https://pikabu.ru/story/letayushchaya_lodka_ask62_6927049
      1. mlad
        mlad 26 December 2019 23: 54
        0
        thank you very much beautiful airplane
  7. lis-ik
    lis-ik 26 December 2019 13: 57
    +3
    That hurt for centuries from the USSR! Use the current bribe takers.
  8. svp67
    svp67 26 December 2019 14: 31
    +1
    hi Power good good good
  9. K-50
    K-50 26 December 2019 14: 55
    0
    Stairs of insufficient length, technicians have to stretch, which is not great. another time it’s not accurate enough to set the staircase to stretch, slip and, in the best case, an injury, maybe a fatal outcome as it falls in general.
    Again, the larger staircase is simply more stable, and contributes to a more relaxed, not intense work.
    In the background, behind the "carcass" is a small seaplane. Whose is it interesting? what
    1. Streamil
      Streamil 26 December 2019 16: 56
      0
      And whose plane could be on the MO runway? ) I remembered the film "Peculiarities of National Fishing", the moment with the transportation of a cow smile
      1. swan49
        swan49 27 December 2019 17: 17
        -1
        In Zhukovsky, the runway is not the Ministry of Defense, but the aircraft industry - this is the Flight Test Institute with the Flight Development Bases of the design bureaus. In legal terms, this is an "experimental aviation airfield", not a "state aviation airfield". Therefore, in LII you can see a variety of aircraft side by side.
      2. Kazbek
        Kazbek 27 December 2019 22: 29
        -2
        The film, by the way, shows well the state of the army as a whole and the Air Force in particular in the 90s.
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 27 December 2019 10: 55
      +1
      Quote: K-50
      In the background, behind the "carcass" is a small seaplane. Whose is it interesting? what

      This is a boat laughing ASK-62 hi
  10. gridasov
    gridasov 26 December 2019 15: 23
    -2
    Only a fool does not see enormous heat dissipation. There is no need to speak of a further increase in the energy density, so to speak, of the rejection of the masses. Even if the spectral color in the combustion chamber is brought to a critical and it is clear which one, it will be impossible to reproduce such a material in the atmosphere so that it can withstand such temperatures. This is a dead end road engine
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 26 December 2019 17: 02
      +10
      Quote: gridasov
      Only a fool does not see enormous heat dissipation. There is no need to speak of a further increase in the energy density, so to speak, of the rejection of the masses. Even if the spectral color in the combustion chamber is brought to a critical and it is clear which one, it will be impossible to reproduce such a material in the atmosphere so that it can withstand such temperatures. This is a dead end road engine

      It's cool for powdering your mind. Your answer is something like: "It is, and of course, it is legal, it should be, but okay. And if that happens - here you are." The main thing is that no one understands anything and considers you "very smart".
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 26 December 2019 18: 37
        -1
        I heard you! But firstly, the conversation is not about who is dumber and who is smarter. I'm generally aloof. And secondly, I just built a mat model of the process in a modern turbine and within the framework of reasonable criteria to which we all strive. But more than that, we are talking about design solutions that fundamentally change the operation of the engine. In general, judging by your conclusions and discussions, there can be no discussion. All happy and okay. But I also have the right to my opinion.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 26 December 2019 18: 42
          +6
          Quote: gridasov
          But I also have the right to my opinion.

          Yes, for God's sake, have it. But your verbal freaks suggest thoughts of banal verbiage. hi
          1. dauria
            dauria 26 December 2019 21: 44
            +4
            . But your verbal freaks suggest thoughts of banal verbiage.


            No, not about that. It's just that the creators of the program under the nickname "Gridasov" tried to give "humanity" to their brainchild. It turned out byaka, as always. For 5 years, there is not a single comment, where even the specifics would have slipped - he was offended, called, called by name, did a foolish thing and "forgot". In a word, there is no such person "Gridasov". And here is the program that has been fooling us for five years now.
          2. Kazbek
            Kazbek 27 December 2019 22: 32
            -2
            I would even say "about banal erudition," from the point of view of which ... and so on. laughing
  11. NordUral
    NordUral 26 December 2019 16: 00
    +1
    Beautiful beast!
  12. aleksandrs95
    aleksandrs95 26 December 2019 16: 38
    +3
    A beautiful ship with proper use, without entering into danger zones and with a tanker is not far away, so that in case it was possible to run at speed. This ship is capable of this. Well, more rockets of different and new ones will then shine in all its glory to the horror of our enemies.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 December 2019 19: 14
    0
    What can I say, there are no words, the beauty of an airplane take-off is only comparable with the morning dawn.
  14. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 26 December 2019 20: 08
    -1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The take-off video in the evening is very beautiful. And the plane itself is elegant, of course.
    And about the long and the furious is really interesting. So will he eat all the fuel on take-off, or not?

    First grader question. Not kerosene is interesting, but the operating time in this mode. Is this good or bad? For an engine that is not afraid to work in this mode, good. But what is this for? Or is it just the norm for our airplane that others are not used to?
  15. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 26 December 2019 20: 11
    0
    Quote: gridasov
    But firstly, the conversation is not about who is dumber and who is smarter. I'm generally aloof.

    For the first time I heard from you the words of self-irony. However, the benefits of communication here are yielding results.
  16. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 26 December 2019 20: 16
    -1
    Quote: pavlentiy
    I was pleased with the technician releasing the aircraft and talking on the phone) I would have been killed in due time for this

    Maybe he earned a prize with his report? Times are different. It is unlikely that you would have the very opportunity to take a pipe on the field. Specialists would show you Kuzkin’s mother. And if they had known about the photographic equipment in the pipe, you would not have returned home from the assignment.
  17. Tests
    Tests 26 December 2019 20: 23
    +2
    Region-25.rus (Vladimir), dear, a loner cried for you on the lip for three days, and the lip cried even more for the warrant officer on duty in the fleet, or, he fled from his dinner outfit to his beloved, while the whole base was on night flights ? ... Or are you from a regiment, or from a communications division, deaf and dumb? ... "Long-range aviation is such an organization where they go to bed early and get up late, do nothing and get very tired ..."; "From smoking to crime - two puffs" ... How young we were ...
  18. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 26 December 2019 22: 33
    -1
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: gridasov
    But I also have the right to my opinion.

    Yes, for God's sake, have it. But your verbal freaks suggest thoughts of banal verbiage. hi

    You made a big mistake. Unrecognized discoverers who are harassed by the whole world are ill with others. Doctors call this paranoia.
  19. _M_
    _M_ 27 December 2019 02: 10
    +1
    Thanks to the Union for such a legacy!
  20. Dedok
    Dedok 27 December 2019 14: 19
    0
    How much can you put on the network that - do not?
    Why did this comrade put it on the network? to be promoted?
    And these are people who have access!
    The video is beautiful, but right, borders, "edges", our officials have disappeared.
  21. radiootdel4
    radiootdel4 27 December 2019 15: 41
    0
    Nothing unusual. Just a beautiful mighty plane with excellent engines. Let the "partners" be jealous.