The non-lethal weapon of capitalism: the US has found the weak spot of modern Russia


In the German press there are materials dedicated to the fact that the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project faces serious difficulties after the United States imposed sanctions against companies involved in the construction of the gas pipeline.


Recall that just a few hours after Donald Trump signed the US military budget for 2020, where their sanctions against SP-2 were prescribed, the pipelines of the Swiss company Allseas left the gas pipeline construction zone. The German media noted that US congressmen deliberately introduced sanctions into the US military budget documentation so that the president did not have any opportunities for discussion.

Meanwhile, a major German newspaper, Frankfurter Allgemeine, published an article stating that "Russia is looking for a replacement for ships to complete the construction of the gas pipeline." Russia is really trying to find a replacement for the Swiss Allseas, which fled under American pressure. But somewhat confused is the position of German experts. They are extremely cautious in discussing problems with SP-2 and are trying to set everything up as if the gas pipeline is a purely Russian project. The material ignores the fact that the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project is actually a pan-European business - thousands of European engineers and workers took part in it (in the implementation), the project is the focus of huge investments made, including by Germany itself.

Therefore, if we look for a replacement for the pipe-laying vessels that have left the Baltic Sea, then, logically, all interested parties - Russia and Germany in the first place.

What attracts particular attention in this whole situation?



The fact that the United States seems to have found a weak spot in modern Russia. You can say as much as you like that the sanctions “only boost the domestic economy along with the degree of patriotism of the population”, but in this case the following is clear: Washington was able to stop the project, which is strategic for Russia and Europe, with a targeted strike. At least he could suspendthat makes Moscow go on a straight line and, what a sin, conceal close contact with Kiev. If a couple of months on the air of the federal media discussed “the collapse of Ukrainian transit” (“at best, on the shoulder of the shoulder, we will sign a one-year contract for pumping 10 billion cubic meters”), now this rhetoric has changed.

In the United States, after analyzing the situation, they came to the unequivocal conclusion that in the current conditions Russia cannot afford to stop transit through the territory of Ukraine. Gazprom needs money, and therefore it will continue to pump. About the "Bandera in Ukraine" again decided to forget. Accordingly: an American project called "Ukraine-Anti-Russia" will continue. The American congressmen found a breeding ground for him, and this is a fact.

The result can be only one: draw conclusions.

The obvious conclusion: only the strong can afford to withstand American sanctions, which means that Europe is weak. The second conclusion: Russia itself has entered the large "capitalist family", and therefore it would be foolish to expect from the same "Gazprom" to uphold Russia's positions in terms of protecting geopolitical interests. You can, of course, give out an “agreement” with the Kiev authorities on a further 5-year pumping, but this does not cancel the fact that the money doesn’t smell. Even the presence of frank Russophobes in the camp of the Ukrainian authorities does not prevent negotiations, declaring all this "pragmatism for the sake of partnership with Europe." But the fact that Europe itself supports sanctions against the Russian Federation is somehow not even customary to recall.

And how many times have representatives of the authorities said that SP-2 is a commercial project, not a political one. Here on businessmen and hit an American baseball bat. Although ... what kind of "hit" - just waved ... and they immediately began to scatter through holes.

The third conclusion: not in vain at the moment when the Red Army liberated Europe from Nazism, Western financial bags hastily set about discussing the issue of dollar domination in order to be able to subjugate entire countries by "non-lethal" methods. The built-up system of this domination operates to this day. And with the thesis "and we have gas in our apartment," this system today allows itself to play in a way that is convenient for it.
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  1. Nkv3 25 December 2019 11: 22 New
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    The position of German experts, by the way, is quite understandable.
    The SP-2 project has become toxic, and they are doing their best to distance themselves from it.
    By the way, do not overestimate the German interest in the flow. There are plenty of Gaza today.
    The hope is simply bursting to become a monopolist in the EU on gas distribution.
    But the Germans will survive it. This is better than going into direct confrontation with the States.
    1. Hunter 2 25 December 2019 11: 30 New
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      Please explain your "logic" by making a statement ...
      Quote: Nkv3
      The position of German experts, by the way, is quite understandable.
      The hope is simply bursting to become a monopolist in the EU on gas distribution.

      Under what conditions could Germany even become a monopolist in the distribution of Gaza ??? And where did you (exclude Ukraine) lose Turkey? Where did Norwegian gas go? Algeria - look too lost? Well, PRG from the USA, WHERE ???
      1. Nkv3 25 December 2019 11: 49 New
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        Under such conditions, if the SP-2 was completed. That is precisely why German entrepreneurs joined the project. Now these dreams are covered with a copper basin, Germany will not succeed in becoming a gas hub in Europe today.
        With the Turkish stream their troubles. I remind you: any gas pipeline must be certified by an international independent company. Now, after the imposition of sanctions (and the Turkish stream falls under them along with SP-2) certification will be problematic.
        Norwegian and Algerian gas will not help Germany become a hub, this is not SP-2.
        Yes, German companies that already wiped their pens on the eve of New Year’s profits will now wipe themselves. But is that their doctor? One had to be careful.
        1. Hunter 2 25 December 2019 12: 05 New
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          Do you even know how to read? I wrote you in Russian - to the distribution of Norwegian, Algerian, LNG physicist USA - Germany in general, no way! What kind of monopoly can we talk about?
          To the distribution of gas (ours) that will go through Turkey ... What will Germany have to do with it?
          Do not litter the branch with your conclusions, which are not at all clever. fool
          1. Nkv3 25 December 2019 12: 16 New
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            Apparently, you do not know how to read, since Turkey, Algeria and so on were piled in one heap.
            Read my first comment again. And try to understand its meaning. If this works out.
            It was about the fact that Germany entered the SP-2 project only because the gas pipeline went on land precisely in Germany. Take the gasket diagram SP-2 and study it.
            It was SP-2 that, due to geographical conditions, made Germany a gas hub in the EU. And no other.
            Now the shop is buried. This is clear? I hope so. If you know how to work with a card.
            With what fright you began to drag on the topic of Algeria-Turkey and other Norway it is clear, apparently, only to you.
            1. Hunter 2 25 December 2019 12: 26 New
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              Chukchi is not a reader ... fool whose words are these?
              Quote: Nkv3

              By the way, do not overestimate the German interest in the flow. There are plenty of Gaza today.
              The hope is simply bursting to become a monopolist in the EU on gas distribution.

              Stop clever here - you can’t! laughing
              Then your sketches - they won’t take a ride ... they won’t give shoes to change in flight either! Stop talking bullshit fool
              1. Shurik70 25 December 2019 23: 24 New
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                Well done Americans, the whole world is forced to develop their own technologies, and not buy imports.
                Russia is being persuaded to create its own pipelayers.
                So, we recently decided to force China to create an alternative to Googl and Youtube, depriving the largest Chinese manufacturer of phones and tablets of access to these services.
                Huawei is preparing a killer Youtube

                Huawei is preparing Youtube killer! The Chinese company will create an alternative to all Google services and not only.

                Submitted by Russian America TV Wednesday, December 25, 2019
                1. Greenwood 27 December 2019 09: 09 New
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                  Quote: Shurik70
                  alternative to Googl and Youtube
                  The trouble is that these services have been working for many years, and they are used all over the world, which gives access to content from different countries. And all these alternatives will not give a tenth of that variety of content. How many years have existed Rutube and other video hosting services, to YouTube they are like to the moon. Many bloggers who previously collaborated with Rutub eventually moved to YouTube.
                  1. Shurik70 27 December 2019 19: 54 New
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                    Quote: Greenwood
                    all of these alternatives will not give a tenth of that variety of content

                    Everything changes over time
        2. DenZ 25 December 2019 12: 27 New
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          Quote: Nkv3
          Norwegian and Algerian gas will not help Germany become a hub, this is not SP-2

          Quote: Nkv3
          The SP-2 project has become toxic, ... there are plenty of gas even today.
          The hope is simply bursting to become a monopolist in the EU on gas distribution

          So, the gas monopolist in Europe in general, or just a hub for SP-2, you can decide, these are two very big differences.
          1. Piramidon 25 December 2019 13: 45 New
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            Quote: DenZ
            So, the gas monopolist in Europe in general, or just a hub for SP-2, you can decide, these are two very big differences.

            Well, the trollik changed his shoes when they pinned. What is incomprehensible here.
        3. SSR
          SSR 25 December 2019 12: 52 New
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          Quote: Nkv3
          Now these dreams are covered with a copper basin, Germany will not succeed in becoming a gas hub in Europe today.

          Yeah, and you, the author, will argue that this is a blow to a weak Russia, and the fact that the laying of the pipeline slows down from a kick in the ass received by the Europeans from the US partner, you, as a "Pole", will keep silent and blame everything on Russia?
          Washington was able to stop the project with a point strike, which is strategic for Russia and Europe.

          The project is strategic for Europeans, but their kicked boot is no less “strategic” for part of Europe.
          1. Nkv3 25 December 2019 13: 30 New
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            The pipeline did not slow down, it stopped.
            These are two big differences.
            1. ZAV69 25 December 2019 16: 06 New
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              Quote: Nkv3
              The pipeline did not slow down, it stopped.
              These are two big differences.

              How to stop and resume. Fortune will come from Germany, and in Danish waters it will be laid by the Academician Chersky when it comes from the Far East. All the same, they didn’t have time for the new year, there was still commissioning for several months. By the next heating season will be launched.
          2. Lelek 25 December 2019 13: 48 New
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            Quote: SSR
            The project is strategic for Europeans, but their kicked boot is no less “strategic” for part of Europe.

            hi
            Yes, the other day, the US ambassador to Germany thanked the "amiable" Europeans for supporting the US position on the issue of SP-2. Yes, Frau Chancellor and Monsieur President “tactfully” said nothing about this. But time is a lady with unpredictable twists, and Russia is not used to losing ground. And besides, in the "Europeans" they are ambivalent about the actions of the United States and the statements of their ambassador. This was formulated in her appeal to him by Irena Adler:

            So - it’s not yet evening and “pooh” for all-singers.
        4. Brturin 25 December 2019 13: 53 New
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          Quote: Nkv3
          Norwegian and Algerian gas will not help Germany become a hub

          At the end of 2018, Algeria reduced supplies to the EU by 1 billion cubic meters (48,4 against 49,4 in 2017). Norway - by 4,3 billion cubic meters (130,5 against 134,8). According to the European Commission's report on gas consumption in the EU in the third quarter of 2019, it grew by 7%, while domestic gas production in the EU countries fell by 9% over the year. So the Norwegians and Algeria will not help much - the demand is growing.
          1. Liam 25 December 2019 17: 21 New
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            Quote: BrTurin
            Quote: Nkv3
            Norwegian and Algerian gas will not help Germany become a hub

            At the end of 2018, Algeria reduced supplies to the EU by 1 billion cubic meters (48,4 against 49,4 in 2017). Norway - by 4,3 billion cubic meters (130,5 against 134,8). According to the European Commission's report on gas consumption in the EU in the third quarter of 2019, it grew by 7%, while domestic gas production in the EU countries fell by 9% over the year. So the Norwegians and Algeria will not help much - the demand is growing.

            You manipulate the data clumsily and thickly. You give a reduction in supplies from Algeria and Norway for 2018. And you talk about consumption growth in Europe for the 1st quarter of 2019. Do not tell the public how Gazprom is doing on the gas front for 2019? I will help once you are shy.
            GAZPROM HAS ALREADY DECREASED GAS SUPPLY TO EUROPE IN 2019 AND PROFIT
            The net revenue of the Russian PJSC Gazprom from gas sales to Europe and other countries of the far abroad for the first nine months of 2019 decreased by 12% compared to the same period last year
            Friday, 29 November 2019, 13:28

            This is stated in the report of the company, informs "DS".

            Gazprom’s profit reduction in this sector amounted to 242 billion rubles ($ 3,775 billion).

            The reason for this result in the company called a drop of 8% in supply, as well as a decrease in average gas prices by 5% in ruble terms and by 10% in dollar terms
            1. Brturin 25 December 2019 18: 57 New
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              Quote: Liam
              GAZPROM HAS A DECREASED REDUCTION OF SUPPLIES IN 2019

              January-November 2019 -
              Gazprom delivered 178,5 billion cubic meters to non-CIS countries. m of gas - 99,3% of the 11 months of the record year 2018 ... At the same time, the volume of exports to a number of countries has increased since the beginning of the year. In particular, to Austria - by 31,4%, to Hungary - by 38,5%, to the Netherlands - by 35,7%, to Slovakia - by 40,6%, to the Czech Republic - by 28,2%, to France - by 8%.
              drop by 0,7% - and where is the sharp reduction in supply
              As for the price, it applies to all suppliers, or you think that this did not affect the Norwegians and Algerians, which I doubt very much. There are statistics that this year they make big profits ??? .... The fall in prices is a matter of the cost of production and supply, and from this, accordingly, the financial stability of the company ... the dynamics of Gazprom stock prices have not yet gone into a steep peak .... So, it’s not only Gazprom that incurs losses
              Claudio Descalzi, Italian Eni CEO: “It’s better when LNG from the US goes east, because shipping to Europe is at a loss”

              Take your time - what quarter are you talking about?
              Quote: Liam
              and about the growth in consumption in Europe, tell me for the 1st quarter of 2019.

              - According to the report of the European Commission on gas consumption in the EU in the third quarter of 2019, do you think this year Norway and Algeria will be able to sharply increase supplies and offset the growth in consumption and the decline in domestic production in the EU.
              1. Liam 25 December 2019 19: 09 New
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                Do not write fakes. Gazprom official press release for the 9 months of 2019.
                Net revenue from gas sales to Europe and other countries decreased by 256 million rubles, or 545%, for the nine months ended September 12, 30, compared to the same period last year and amounted to 2019 million rubles. This is due to a decrease in gas sales in physical terms by 8%, or by 14,0 billion cubic meters. m
                https://www.gazprom.ru/press/news/2019/november/article493064/
                1. Brturin 25 December 2019 19: 19 New
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                  Quote: Liam
                  Do not write fakes. Gazprom official press release for the 9 months of 2019.

                  I give data for 11 months, not 9
                  Quote: Liam
                  Manipulating data clumsily and thickly.

                  And if you need a source for 11 months, you can for example - https://tass.ru/ekonomika/7238599, https://vz.ru/news/2019/12/1/1011314.html and a search engine to help you .... .
                  1. Liam 25 December 2019 19: 31 New
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                    Your data with a pitchfork for water without any official sources. Operate with official documented sources.
        5. not main 25 December 2019 22: 15 New
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          Quote: Nkv3
          Under such conditions, if the SP-2 was completed. That is precisely why German entrepreneurs joined the project. Now these dreams are covered with a copper basin, Germany will not succeed in becoming a gas hub in Europe today.
          With the Turkish stream their troubles. I remind you: any gas pipeline must be certified by an international independent company. Now, after the imposition of sanctions (and the Turkish stream falls under them along with SP-2) certification will be problematic.
          Norwegian and Algerian gas will not help Germany become a hub, this is not SP-2.
          Yes, German companies that already wiped their pens on the eve of New Year’s profits will now wipe themselves. But is that their doctor? One had to be careful.

          I’m wondering, what id ... do you put "pluses" to this misunderstanding? Which is registered on 21.12/2019/XNUMX? And the rating ... yes, an ordinary Troll, but people still argue with it!
      2. askort154 25 December 2019 11: 52 New
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        Hunter 2 ...Please explain your "logic" by making a statement.

        Alexey, the troll has only one logic - a desktop training manual. They have taken root here for a whole month (3-4 trolls), only changing their "nicknames".
        Today on duty - Nkv 3
        Registered 3 days ago, made 19 stuffing, got 3200 minuses. yes hi
        1. Nkv3 25 December 2019 11: 55 New
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          Are you interested in the date of my registration or discussion on the topic? On the topic of the article have something to say?
          Or will you continue trolling?
        2. Hunter 2 25 December 2019 12: 00 New
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          Alexander hi , Trolleys are getting smaller, before they at least somehow owned a question! Now just throw on the fan fool fool fool
        3. Kazbek 25 December 2019 21: 23 New
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          Yeah, harsh times have come to VO. Previously, it was a resource of military experts and those interested in military matters. Now the range of topics has expanded to civil-political topics, which has attracted countless battle trolls from the 404th and fifth column adherents funded from the State Department’s budget to the resource. The time has come to expand the number of moderators in order to respond more quickly to the stuffing of these "figures".
      3. SOVIET UNION 2 25 December 2019 12: 37 New
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        With deliveries via SP-2, Germany could probably become a monopolist in gas distribution. Gas from the same Turkey still needs to be extended or brought. America is not going to deliver gas through pipes! It is clear that all the cat and gas are a dispute between business entities. Businessmen want to have their own income-guaranteed clearing. This all resembles the situation of the 90s, bros, the roof, only in larger interstate interests. Our kind of people come from those dashing years and have trained quite well on domestic cats with tenders, connections and kickbacks. But they firmly believe that the West is different! The West will help us! For the sake of money, the West will not abandon them! And then such a throw through the hip! It is still unknown how events with the Ukrainian pipe will develop. What prevents to block this pipe, for example, by blowing up pumping stations and leaving the EU without gas from Russia? And then substitute a good Amer’s shoulder in the supply of Amer’s gas !? Or didn’t we even consider such scenarios? Our boys, of course, can now blame anyone. But in this situation, our bad boys sold to the bourgeoisie are to blame first of all! They were so eager to go there, and here is the break of the template! We are chestnuts for you, and you are depriving us of jam! And there probably were plans to distribute jam across the country. Probably a rapid GDP growth was expected with the start of gas pumping and the Russian emirates were planning to build. Now it turns out that the receipt of currency is sharply cut, and from what else can it be taken?
        1. your1970 25 December 2019 13: 15 New
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          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          What prevents to block this pipe, for example, by blowing up pumping stations and leaving the EU without gas from Russia?

          A. A gas well in such volumes is very difficult to shut off, it may even be impossible. It’s not for you to close the faucet in the kitchen by the stove ...
          B. in the event of a short delivery of volumes, the penalties of half of Europe will roll out to us ....
          B. The budget of the Russian Federation for 62% consists of money received from customs. The main share is export duties on energy carriers ... Accordingly, if there are no duties, then there is no money for military / doctors / teachers / pensioners / roads and other.
          1. SOVIET UNION 2 25 December 2019 15: 38 New
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            So I am about the same. Or do you think the Americans are so decent that they will not even encroach on the Ukrainian gas pipeline? In the sense of incapacitate him. Huge grandmas are at stake.
            1. Overlock 25 December 2019 21: 45 New
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              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              Or do you think the Americans are so decent that they will not even encroach on the Ukrainian gas pipeline? In the sense of incapacitate him.

              Alexander Rar: American elites are aggressively opposed to the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, so the possibility of provocation and sabotage cannot be ruled out.
              According to him, opponents of the Nord Stream-2 pipeline, which will connect Russia and Germany, can oppose the completion of the gas pipeline not only by legal, but also by physical methods.
      4. Leshy1975 25 December 2019 12: 39 New
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        Quote: Hunter 2
        Please explain your "logic" by making a statement ...
        Quote: Nkv3
        The position of German experts, by the way, is quite understandable.
        The hope is simply bursting to become a monopolist in the EU on gas distribution.

        Under what conditions could Germany even become a monopolist in the distribution of Gaza ??? And where did you (exclude Ukraine) lose Turkey? Where did Norwegian gas go? Algeria - look too lost? Well, PRG from the USA, WHERE ???

        Alexei, believe less Putin's propaganda. Gazprom’s affairs are sad now, and in the future they will become even worse. To whom, under these conditions, the “bright” thought occurred to bury money in half-empty gas pipelines, however, this is also not a question. This was answered several years ago by an analyst of Sberbank, who was immediately dismissed after this, that these projects are commercially unprofitable and only contractors during the construction will earn them. These are the main contractors: Gennady Timchenko Volga Group, Stroygazmontazh (SGM) Arkady Rotenberg, Stroygazconsulting (since 2016, the shareholders are Ilya Scherbovich and Gazprombank and United Capital Partners).
        As you can see, the same names are stably the same. Rotenbergs, in our country at least something is already being done without their participation?
        For LNG, read the El Murida blog, an article called Tactics and Strategy. The meaning of the article is as follows:
        The United States has a much stronger position in terms of increasing LNG exports - 5 times more than Russia. Therefore, Novak’s optimism, to put it mildly, is not supported. Although right now, the comparison looks very good.
        And read, you can easily find on the Internet about the fullness of the South Stream and the volume of gas supplies to Turkey last year and this year. This is a disaster, at least in the current state, and what will happen next is also not known. The entire volume can be pumped through the old Blue Stream.

        PS Citizens, at least for the minus, but rather with your minuses fill the South Stream, reduce the losses of Gazprom.
      5. Disorder 25 December 2019 17: 08 New
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        Well, PRG from the USA, WHERE ???

        Yamal has not yet been shipped. lol
    2. Shock. 25 December 2019 11: 34 New
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      They’ll build a stream, only the Germans decided that they were not ready to pay such a price for the monopoly and accordingly put all the responsibility on Moscow. They wished on someone else’s coffin, but right to heaven.
      1. Nkv3 25 December 2019 12: 00 New
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        That’s what I’m talking about.
        Only Russia will have to disentangle the brewed porridge.
        By the way, the current sudden force majeure can be sudden only for us.
        Putin probably knew everything before.
        Otherwise, I would not have signed another counterattack with Ukraine for a period of 5 years.
        By the way, how much time will it take for Russia to complete the project, according to one of our experts? 4 years?
        All converges.
        1. Shock. 25 December 2019 13: 59 New
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          Well, I’ll risk assuming that for the GDP these sanctions and the reaction of Europeans to them were still not quite expected. Everything that is happening now looks like improvisation on the go.
          To the expert’s account. Could you point out this opinion. Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with anything like this.
    3. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 11: 43 New
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      You're right! The Germans did not spend a cent on the joint venture, a gift from Gazprom! Germany has accumulated enough gas in the tanks, plus there are alternative supplies, so Russia cannot blackmail Europe with gas! That's why Gazprom caved in to Ukraine’s demands and is ready to pay compensation! Regarding the completion of the joint venture on its own, Gazprom does not need to be trusted! The only boat that the Russian Federation still needs to install and navigate the route, and this is unrealistic! Through the pipeline, we spent billions of dollars on contractors of Putin’s friends such as Rotenberg and others, they built branches that were not needed, intentionally lengthened routes, etc. In any case, they didn’t stay in the loser! But the people of the Russian Federation were robbed!
      1. Hunter 2 25 December 2019 11: 55 New
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        Quote: Horace the Philosopher
        You're right! The Germans did not spend a cent on the joint venture, a gift from Gazprom!

        That's why it is so impudent to lie? Five European companies have invested in the construction of JV 2 - 4.75 billion €. And is it important to produce your own bulge? fool
        1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 11: 56 New
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          As far as I remember, the Germans did not invest in the joint venture!
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            Quote: Horace the Philosopher
            As far as I remember, the Germans did not invest in the joint venture!

            You do not have:
            1. Memory ...
            2. Logic ...
            3. Honesty ..
            There are "excellent" ones - drafts and slogans! With brains and eyes - to look for Old, also PROBLEMS!
            1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 12: 10 New
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              Yes, I have nothing! You are the smartest! Goodbye
              1. Olgovich 25 December 2019 12: 25 New
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                Quote: Horace the Philosopher
                Yes, I have nothing no! You are the smartest! Goodbye

                And why with "nothing" climb out into the light? request
          2. Overlock 25 December 2019 21: 52 New
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            Quote: Horace the Philosopher
            As far as I remember, the Germans did not invest in the joint venture!

            European energy companies from Austria, Germany, France, the UK and the Netherlands each invested almost a billion euros each.
            Capital investments in the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline amount to $ 11 billion (Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak)
        2. Edik 25 December 2019 15: 44 New
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          Quote: Hunter 2
          Five European companies have invested in the construction of JV 2 - 4.75 billion €.

          And Brita still invested in the gas pipeline! wink We have a lot of brilliant top managers on the site here, they know everything in advance! This stream cannot be blocked, it can only be slowed down. And everyone in the world understands this ..
        3. Liam 25 December 2019 17: 30 New
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          Quote: Hunter 2
          Quote: Horace the Philosopher
          You're right! The Germans did not spend a cent on the joint venture, a gift from Gazprom!

          That's why it is so impudent to lie? Five European companies have invested in the construction of JV 2 - 4.75 billion €. And is it important to produce your own bulge? fool

          The "investments" of European companies are LOANS granted to Gazprom for the construction of the pipe. Gazprom is obliged to repay these loans as it were. He is the sole shareholder of the pipe, and Europeans borrowed money. And their repayment is not connected with the fate of the pipe.
          By the way. 100% of the pipe’s shares were pledged by Gazprom to Europeans under these loans.
      2. Dimonk 25 December 2019 12: 08 New
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        The people are not robbed sad People continue to rob, and will rob am All these flows abroad, for dollars and euros. And 90% of Russia without gasification. Dollar flows are more important for the current government than the sobsvivan negative
        1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 12: 13 New
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          The people are stocking up with firewood! In the country, a cloud of cities and villages where there is no gas! But the Russian Federation is pulling a branch to Europe! Can you first bring your people to the 21st century?
          1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 12: 23 New
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            I heard that you no longer have firewood in Ukraine and gasification in Russia is already in full swing
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              1. cniza 25 December 2019 12: 38 New
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                Fight under the bench propagandist loser ...
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              2. your1970 25 December 2019 13: 26 New
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                Striznevo
                According to the 2002 census, the population is 632 people (292 men, 340 women).
                1) Now obviously less.
                2) if you spend gas at the expense of the budget then in 5-10 years there will be people who will scream- "why did you unpromising village gasify" ????
                We already had this - in 1998 the village was gasified, and last year the last resident died there. The entire head of the district was kicked all 2000, why did he run the road to the village at the expense of money ...
                And the inhabitants themselves will not pull; they won’t even overpowered the coal
              3. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 29 New
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                gasification of small towns is going on, and the villages, of course, only on wood
                1. balunn 25 December 2019 15: 09 New
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                  the cost of introducing gas into a private house is about 150 thousand rubles ..... well, so for reference ...
                  and this despite the fact that the pipe runs almost over the site ... taking into account the fact that the salary in villages and small towns is about 20 thousand (rubles) per month, or even less, then calculate how much a family of 2 people needs to sit without money, to get a public treasure
                  1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 15: 13 New
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                    I completely agree that such an amount !!! only Gazprom has nothing to do with it, local authorities pay for gasification from the budget, there is no money and no gas
                    1. balunn 25 December 2019 15: 28 New
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                      And here you are mistaken. This money goes to the project, excavation, pipe laying, permission to insert, insert and controlled first start-up. All these operations are performed by different offices, one way or another affiliated with Gazprom (naturally, Gazprom itself has nothing to do with it). He only created such a scheme. She’s not responsible for anything, but the loot shears through a bunch of intermediaries. And this money is paid by the owner of the apartment building to get the public property !!!!!!
                      The same goes for electricity and water.
                      1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 15: 41 New
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                        everything costs money, capitalism
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                        Go down from the moon. A piece of pipe + work is a maximum of 30 thousand .... you pay 150 ... and there is no alternative to do it yourself or find those who will make it cheaper
                      3. sabotage 25 December 2019 18: 40 New
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                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        everything costs money, capitalism

                        How much is your honor?
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                        expensive!!! highly
              4. at84432384 25 December 2019 16: 16 New
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                This is you an optimist! Heavily dependent on the appetite of the local operator. I wanted to carry gas to the country (there is a gas pipe in the village), they requested 300. Mosk. Obl.
                1. balunn 25 December 2019 16: 32 New
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                  Well, we have it ... but the order is understandable ... that this is not the cost of a piece of pipe, but the amount of several tens of times higher than the population’s capabilities.
      3. JonnyT 25 December 2019 12: 23 New
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        Cities ???? Are you talking about which country ??? Thrally la, you are ours.
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  2. _Ugene_ 25 December 2019 14: 14 New
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    The Germans did not spend a cent on the joint venture, a gift from Gazprom!
    Well, why write such a blatant lie, because after this sentence not a single sober person will read your works further
  • Olgovich 25 December 2019 12: 19 New
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    Quote: Nkv3
    The position of German experts, by the way, is quite understandable.
    The SP-2 project has become toxic, and they are doing their best to distance themselves from it.

    Toxic steel usa . And the poison of this crazy everyone is naturally afraid.

    If your wallet takes away a stinking monkey theft, you don’t cling to it, right? But it’s not the wallet that suddenly became toxic, but it’s dangerous to take ..

    Did it get there? no
  • Vend 25 December 2019 12: 44 New
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    Everything may not be so obvious, as has been proved more than once. The United States is thinking two steps ahead, modern Russia by 10. We will soon find out how everything will turn out for us.
    1. Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 12 New
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      Who is it, and when did we think so farsightedly? At a half turn, I already think quite normal.
      1. Vend 25 December 2019 14: 52 New
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        Quote: Fraancol_2
        Who is it, and when did we think so farsightedly? At a half turn, I already think quite normal.

        Yes, you would like so much laughing Yes, at least BRICS.
    2. at84432384 25 December 2019 16: 23 New
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      In modern Russia they cannot plan the budget for the year (this year the trillion has remained "superfluous"), and you are about 10 steps forward ... But what will it turn out for us? As always, Miller and his comrades will receive New Year's gift billion, and since 2020 we have new prices in payments.
      1. Vend 25 December 2019 17: 50 New
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        Quote: at84432384
        In modern Russia they cannot plan the budget for the year (this year the trillion has remained "superfluous"), and you are about 10 steps forward ... But what will it turn out for us? As always, Miller and his comrades will receive New Year's gift billion, and since 2020 we have new prices in payments.

        If Russia did not know how to plan a budget, it would be very similar to Ukraine laughing
        1. Greenwood 27 December 2019 09: 10 New
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          Quote: Wend
          would be very similar to Ukraine
          And she looks like her. The rhetoric of the leadership is different, the opportunities and budgets are different, but essentially the same problems.
          1. Vend 27 December 2019 10: 12 New
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            Quote: Greenwood
            Quote: Wend
            would be very similar to Ukraine
            And she looks like her. The rhetoric of the leadership is different, the opportunities and budgets are different, but essentially the same problems.

            Only in your sick fantasies laughing
            1. Edik 27 December 2019 13: 19 New
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              Quote: Wend
              Only in your sick fantasies

              All the same, in patients, here a doctor is needed yes
  • Nyrobsky 25 December 2019 14: 57 New
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    Quote: Nkv3
    The SP-2 project has become toxic, and they are doing their best to distance themselves from it.
    By the way, do not overestimate the German interest in the flow. There are plenty of Gaza today.

    SP-2, if it became "toxic", is only for Ukraine and the United States, since it reduces their ability to put pressure on Europe. Yes, Germany today receives enough gas, but its lion's share is of Russian origin. The fallen volumes of Russian gas are simply physically nothing to replace.
    Quote: Nkv3
    The hope is simply bursting to become a monopolist in the EU on gas distribution. Now these dreams are covered by a copper basin, today Germany will not succeed in becoming a gas hub in Europe. But the Germans will survive it.
    Let's just say that they are not covered with a copper basin, they are temporarily transferred according to the terms of putting the SP-2 into operation.
    Quote: Nkv3
    With the Turkish stream their troubles. I remind you: any gas pipeline must be certified by an international independent company. Now, after the imposition of sanctions (and the Turkish stream falls under them along with SP-2) certification will be problematic.
    Whose is that? Permits and certificates are issued before, not after. No one will dump babosy in the project, if upon completion of construction it can be killed only by the absence of a certificate. Cook pipes only so that nobody would dismantle them, because too big risks.
    Quote: Nkv3
    It was about the fact that Germany entered the SP-2 project only because the gas pipeline went on land precisely in Germany. Take the gasket diagram SP-2 and study it.
    It was SP-2 that, due to geographical conditions, made Germany a gas hub in the EU. And no other.

    As I understand it, the fact that the SP-1 is taking place there does not bother you. And who said that a gas hub is a fix idea for Germany? Germany is abandoning atomic energy in favor of gas, which is burned in significant volumes and will give out the fallen atomic megawatts to it. And yet, yes, some part of the gas will be redistributed into the common European gas system, bringing Germany its income.
  • Victor N 25 December 2019 18: 57 New
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    Germany is primarily interested in CHEAP Russian pipeline gas - this provides competitive advantages to the German economy.
  • Ivan Ivanov 26 December 2019 17: 16 New
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    But the Germans will survive it.

    And will the Germans survive poking their face in a known substance?
  • Chaldon48 25 December 2019 11: 27 New
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    The only conclusion is that the country's top leadership needs to fight to the end defending the country's interests.
    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 11: 44 New
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      There is only one conclusion! We must change the leadership!
      1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 12: 24 New
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        change your potion and we love our president
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          1. tihonmarine 25 December 2019 12: 34 New
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            Quote: Horace the Philosopher
            Dear blonde! Loving your botox does not stop anything love!

            Sorry, but Ukraine has a lot of its sites.
            1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 12: 37 New
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              I am not Ukrainian!
            2. Hunter 2 25 December 2019 12: 40 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Horace the Philosopher
              Dear blonde! Loving your botox does not stop anything love!

              Sorry, but Ukraine has a lot of its sites.

              In Estonia too! laughing Hello - "Marine"! I’m watching for Russia today ...
              1. tihonmarine 25 December 2019 12: 55 New
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                Quote: Hunter 2
                I’m watching for Russia today ...

                So I was born in Russia, grandfathers, great-grandfathers were all born there. Where are we without her?
                1. Hunter 2 25 December 2019 13: 07 New
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                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Quote: Hunter 2
                  I’m watching for Russia today ...

                  So I was born in Russia, grandfathers, great-grandfathers were all born there. Where are we without her?

                  It is commendable! yes I threw a couple of lines in PM! wink
                  1. tihonmarine 25 December 2019 13: 18 New
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                    Quote: Hunter 2
                    It is commendable! I threw a couple of lines in PM!

                    I apologize to Sanych. He is a true Hero.
          2. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 32 New
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            and we will love, love your potion and generally stop trolling !!! nothing will be banned soon
        2. lis-ik 25 December 2019 12: 38 New
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          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          change your potion and we love our president

          Well, you do not sign for all.
        3. lis-ik 25 December 2019 13: 01 New
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          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          change your potion and we love our president

          At one time, many naive (softly me) people also loved the founder of MMM Mavrodi, the result is known.
        4. Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 14 New
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          Do not tell, girl.
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            1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 39 New
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              you still have a couple of hours and 5000 cons go to the ban
              1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 13: 45 New
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                Nothing wrong! There is no freedom of speech in the Russian Federation! even for like term give!
                1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 49 New
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                  nobody pays attention to you, bye, hi Kiev
                  1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 13: 50 New
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                    How will I get ready for a tourist in Kiev?
    2. Roman070280 25 December 2019 11: 44 New
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      They’d kill as soon as possible .. so that the country breathed a sigh of relief ..
      1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 12: 49 New
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        The West needs such a president! For 20 years, brought the country to the handle!
      2. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 40 New
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        how many of you came here, you don’t let normal people live, I want all the changes
        1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 13: 46 New
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          And who does not give you! Live! Only do not teach others and do not bother to live and everything will be ok!
          1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 52 New
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            bye Bye)))
    3. Robertocalos 25 December 2019 11: 51 New
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      A country cannot have "interests." There are tasks that need to be set and solved. And interests are when saving money on a pipe.
    4. Mityay65 25 December 2019 11: 55 New
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      Well, do you think that Kozak successfully negotiated with Ukraine about transit? More and more details are coming up about the real results. In particular, about tariffs. All tariff agreements were classified, but hints appeared that the real tariff for Gazprom was 2 times higher than it was !!!!
      Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.
      1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 12: 26 New
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        of course successfully, the parties compromised
        1. 72jora72 25 December 2019 13: 31 New
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          of course successfully, the parties compromised
          Of course, we’ll feed the junta for another five years. Tricky plan. I understand.
          1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 38 New
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            where does it feed? we pay only for transit and its share decreases, there this penny is barely enough to maintain the pipe per year, they don’t have any fat
            1. New Year day 25 December 2019 15: 17 New
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              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              where does it feed? pay only for transit

              For 5 years, about $ 15 billion rushes laughing
              1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 15: 19 New
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                and we sell gas for 100, 15 they will only need to repair the pipe and for bonuses to the authorities, any country needs to pay for transit
      2. dgonni 25 December 2019 12: 27 New
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        So yes! Tariffs according to European rules as well as transit. An attempt to crank the crane in Stockholm will be decided by the moment in favor of Ukraine.
        1. Mityay65 25 December 2019 12: 34 New
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          Transit and tariffs by European standards are lower than before in Ukraine. And where does Stockholm have to do with it? This is out of place.
          1. dgonni 25 December 2019 13: 25 New
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            Tariffs depend on the volume of pumping. Standard European market practice. Stockholm means that in cases of attempted blackmail by a crane, the judicial process will not last for years because there is a concept of case law and a contract according to European standards.
        2. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 15: 22 New
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          nobody is going to fasten, they try to transfer transit through other gas pipelines
      3. Стена 25 December 2019 12: 44 New
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        So Kozak said that 2.9 billion dollars. it's a drop in the ocean
        1. Mityay65 25 December 2019 13: 29 New
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          Kozak said that 2.9 billion dollars. it's a drop in the ocean

          Well, what else can he say? Putin uses Kozak in situations when it is clear that he will have to make excuses. Arguably presented arguments that can not be ignored. I think this is the arrest of the assets of SP-2, shares in Switzerland.
        2. New Year day 25 December 2019 15: 18 New
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          2.9 billion dollars it's a drop in the ocean


          Not a sick drop and in the ... sea
      4. Golovan Jack 25 December 2019 13: 35 New
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        Quote: Mityai65
        More details pop up

        Quote: Mityai65
        www.kommersant.ru

        These two phrases, placed side by side, for some reason evoke the idea of ​​the classic "it does not sink" negative

        Moved to the drafts, buddy? wink
        1. Mityay65 25 December 2019 13: 38 New
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          Again, my friend, I recommend that you consult a doctor wink
          I am sure they can help you there!
          1. Golovan Jack 25 December 2019 13: 51 New
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            I recommend you consult a doctor

            To the doctor - heal yourself yes
    5. Same lech 25 December 2019 11: 56 New
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      the country's top leadership needs to fight to the end

      To the cemetery or something? ... The conclusion is not correct. smile
      But firstly, according to the article ... it blows from her gloom and despair ... it seems that Alexey Volodin received a psychological trauma from the villainy of the Americans. smile
      The Americans beat us stealthily .... I can say this is not the whole story with SP-2 ...
      the Americans are approaching a package of hellish sanctions and the reasons have already been invented for them ... so the real massacre is yet to come.
      I will ask Alexey a question ... the eternal question of mother Russia .... What should I do?
      May surrender to the enemy ... may tear his hair and crawl crawling to Washington and tearfully beg to ask the senators of the US Congress to have mercy on poor Russia ... forgive us gentleman ... we will all do what you demand.
      1. asv363 25 December 2019 13: 05 New
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        Quote: The same Lech
        .What to do? May surrender to the enemy ... may tear his hair and crawl crawling to Washington and tearfully beg to ask the senators of the US Congress to have mercy on poor Russia ... forgive us gentleman ... we will do whatever we require.

        Send butterflies to the farm to catch.
        1. bessmertniy 25 December 2019 13: 21 New
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          These American hot guys do not understand that you can always come up with force majeure. And then this Ukrainian transit cried with crocodile tears. wassat wink
          1. asv363 25 December 2019 13: 29 New
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            Below, at the very end I painted about Ukrainian transit. Without considering the possible regasification of our LNG.
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            And then this Ukrainian transit cried with crocodile tears.

            Ukrainian transit is very beneficial for the EU and it will lay with bones for its preservation. Fee of $ 5 billion annually for transit pays Ukraine not the EU, but the Russian Federation
            1. Edik 25 December 2019 16: 05 New
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              Quote: Silvestr
              Ukrainian transit is very beneficial for the EU

              Announce how it is so beneficial to Europe?
              Quote: Silvestr
              Fee of $ 5 billion annually for transit pays Ukraine not the EU, but the Russian Federation

              I don’t understand you, what are you getting at?
            2. Edik 25 December 2019 19: 17 New
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              Quote: Silvestr
              Ukrainian transit is very beneficial for the EU and it will lay with bones for its preservation. Fee of $ 5 billion annually for transit pays Ukraine not the EU, but the Russian Federation

              Sylvester, do you at least sometimes think what you are writing? Or, as always? good That's what this person can talk about? And laughter and sin! And they put him pluses! What do people have in their head ... Oh, sylvester, you're lying again ...
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                Quote: Edik
                Sylvester, do you at least sometimes think what you are writing? Or, as always?

                You see, Eddie, you're blowing bubbles:
                “The income of Ukraine from the transit of Russian gas through Ukrainian territory to the EU countries in 2017 amounted to about 3 billion"- the head of NAK Naftogaz Ukrainy Andrey Kobolev.
                In 2019, the fuel transit tariff was equal to $ 2,61 for 1 thousand cubic meters m per 100 km.
                In the new agreement for 5 years: pumping 60 billion cubic meters. m price for 1 thousand cubic meters m per 100 km will be $ 3,21, while 90 billion cubic meters m - $ 2,56.
                The Minister of Energy and Environmental Protection of Ukraine Alexey Orzhel estimates the income of Kiev for 5 years of transit of Russian fuel in 15 billion.
                In 2020, 65 billion cubic meters will be pumped, and in subsequent years - 40,
                the total gas supply for this period will be 225 billion cubic meters.
                Federica Mogherini Maya Kosyanchich: that since 2014 the EU and European financial institutions have mobilized more 15 BILLION EURO in the form of grants and loans to support the reform process in Ukraine.
                Through the most complicated logical, mentally associative processes and a calculator, it can be assumed that Ukrian will receive its 15 billion dollars and the EU will not pay Ukraine this amount more, since Gazprom will pay these 15 billion.
                Because the:
                1. the pipe works for another 5 years
                2. pumping is maintained and the lower it is, the higher the price, pay attention to the numbers $ 2,61, $ 3,21, $ 2,56, 225 billion.

                Quote: Edik
                And laughter and sin!

                ... when a person is too lazy to just sit down and hit the clave
                Quote: Edik
                And he’s got pluses! What’s in people’s head ... Oh, sylvester, you're lying again ..

                I do not encourage rudeness, but I forgive you, because you think in templates and the analysis-synthesis process is not for you. hi
                So please do not bother - too lazy to spend time on you to clarify the obvious things laughing
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                  Well, it’s quite difficult with you recourse
                  Somehow you went around this statement and reduced everything to the income of Ukraine
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Ukrainian transit is very beneficial for the EU and it will lay with bones for its preservation.

                  And this
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Fee of $ 5 billion annually for transit pays Ukraine not the EU, but the Russian Federation

                  But no, there’s scraped somewhere! I thought for a long time?
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Federica Mogherini Maya Kosyanchich: that since 2014, the EU and European financial institutions have mobilized more than 15 billion euros in grants and loans to support the reform process in Ukraine.

                  In your opinion, it’s not profitable to hook up a competitor’s industry and ruin a competitor’s industry
                  Do you have sir who is the supplier of gas? Europe or Russia?
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Federica Mogherini Maya Kosyanchich: that since 2014, the EU and European financial institutions have mobilized more than 15 billion euros in grants and loans to support the reform process in Ukraine.

                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Through the most complicated logical, mentally associative processes and a calculator, it can be assumed that Ukrian will receive its 15 billion dollars and the EU will not pay Ukraine this amount more, since Gazprom will pay these 15 billion.

                  Yes, yes it’s difficult with you! You at least comprehended that you copy ships!
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  that since 2014, the EU and European financial institutions have mobilized more than 15 billion euros in grants and loans to support the reform process in Ukraine.

                  So who paid them since 2014: Gazprom or the European Union?
                  You do not carry nonsense and no one will not surprise you!
        2. balunn 25 December 2019 15: 57 New
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          No, this is not possible (s)
          But what about villas, bills? Where will the children study? Who will think about children wink
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      Need to help!
  • Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 11: 27 New
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    Interestingly, does socialism have its own non-lethal weapon? Are heading sharks again sophisticated?
    1. SRC P-15 25 December 2019 11: 59 New
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      Quote: Fraancol_2
      Interestingly, does socialism have its own non-lethal weapon?

      There is: there is no need to give the United States to repurchase our liquefied gas for delivery to the EU! Let them carry their shale from behind a puddle. And they were well settled: they sell our gas as their own, and ours are happy, if only they would. Wouldn't it be better to supply your gas directly to the EU?
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        There is an easier way to not sell it to anyone at all.
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          If you don’t sell gas, you might want to take it away ...
  • Gunxnumx 25 December 2019 11: 29 New
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    As Merkel said: "We are ready for decisive negotiations with the United States." Reminded of German war reports on "straightening the front line"
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      Quote: Gun70
      As Merkel said: "We are ready for decisive negotiations with the United States."


      Nonsense! When the wiretap did not come up by the Americans, she said nothing, and now she will keep silent. Her health is not right
      1. Nyrobsky 25 December 2019 21: 50 New
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        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: Gun70
        As Merkel said: "We are ready for decisive negotiations with the United States."


        Nonsense! When the wiretap did not come up by the Americans, she said nothing, and now she will keep silent. Her health is not right

        But why? Previously, she went to the mattresses because she had the prospect of being re-elected once more to the post of chancellor, and the Americans could be very rude in this process, and today Angela essentially exhausted her political resource because Chancellor Merkel’s career ends and she won’t go to the next election. It’s as if there’s nothing to press the mattresses on. She passed the post of party chairman. So it's time for her to think about what to do in retirement. I don’t think that she will not like the chair on the board of directors watching over gas flows. There will be coffee to drink next to Gerhard Schroeder. So, Angela is also interested in completing the construction of the SP-2, and therefore she can very well afford to lure the Americans. hi
    2. Overlock 25 December 2019 22: 01 New
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      Quote: Gun70
      As Merkel said: "We are ready for decisive negotiations with the United States."

      The fanning of anti-American sentiment in Europe in case of sanction against Nord Stream 2 can lead to a government crisis in Germany, up to and including the loss of office by Chancellor Angela Merkel.
      Another scenario - the head of the German government will protect the interests of his country, and then the deterioration of relations between Germany and the United States will be inevitable.
  • Vasyan1971 25 December 2019 11: 31 New
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    In the States, having analyzed the situation ...

    So it is asked: do we deal with similar analyzes of the situation and forecasts about its prevention and prevention? Or are principles like “until the thunder strikes, the man cross himself” work?
    1. Ross xnumx 25 December 2019 12: 07 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Do we have anyone engaged in similar analyzes of the situation and forecasts about its prevention and prevention?

      I am a direct person, and I will tell you honestly:
      - They would do, but:

      laughing
      1. tihonmarine 25 December 2019 12: 24 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        - They would do, but:
        And who will allow them.
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    All that was before! Do not have your own pipe layer ...
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      All that was before! Do not have your own pipe layer ...

      The story repeats, similar to the construction of an energy bridge in the Crimea yes
    2. Eug
      Eug 25 December 2019 11: 57 New
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      And it’s the habit of managers not to raise technical issues penniless, paying attention only to financial ...
    3. your1970 25 December 2019 13: 31 New
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      All that was before! Do not have your own pipe layer ...

      There is he!!!! Do you propose to build a cloud, taking into account the laws of each country, which like Denmark will begin to coddle?
  • DPN
    DPN 25 December 2019 11: 34 New
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    From the beginning, they blamed on the old general secretaries, now the young rule. Maybe they didn’t study in those schools?
    1. Roman070280 25 December 2019 11: 46 New
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      We all studied in the same schools ..)) It is all the more surprising to watch what is happening ..
      1. Ross xnumx 25 December 2019 12: 03 New
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        Quote: Roman070280
        We all studied in the same schools ..)) It is all the more surprising to watch what is happening ..

        It's right. Only we got fives, and these threes, unable to learn other truths, except for the law of the chicken coop, were able to rise above us, combining their mediocre efforts ...
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        We all studied in the same schools ..)) It is all the more surprising to watch what is happening ..

        This is not surprising. Recall, at least, MMM, how people pulled into it in order to “get free money”, forgetting that they taught it “free cheese can only be in a mousetrap”. And even now, many will disagree with me.
  • Retvizan 8 25 December 2019 11: 36 New
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    It took so long to break into the global economy at an accelerated pace.
    Built in!
    Now it is rounded off in full!
    Alas, our enemies now, without firing a shot, having comfortably settled in their offices, remotely shit at our reluctance. ((
    It is not for nothing that they say that when doing the deed, calculate the next steps several steps ahead!
    We wanted to receive bonuses from this, but we get trindules! ((
  • Dmitry Potapov 25 December 2019 11: 37 New
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    Pipelayers used to have to think about! Found partners! Thrown, and more than once thrown! Gazprom was greedy China did not connect for a contract just in case. And from the Swiss, now it’s necessary to demand full compensation through the courts, although I’m not sure that Miller registered this moment.
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      They will announce force majeure.

      Given that this will be in the same Swiss courts, it would be as if Gazprom had not been soldered another 5-10 billion dollars fine for the threat of sanctions and reputation damage.
    2. tihonmarine 25 December 2019 12: 40 New
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      And from the Swiss, now it’s necessary to demand full compensation through the courts, although I’m not sure that Miller has registered this moment.

      This is what dropping the West into the mouth leads to.
  • prior 25 December 2019 11: 39 New
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    "The United States found a weak spot in modern Russia"

    The weak point of modern Russia is the Kremlin.
    1. tihonmarine 25 December 2019 12: 18 New
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      Quote: prior
      The weak point of modern Russia is the Kremlin.

      Capitalism.
      1. lis-ik 25 December 2019 12: 47 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: prior
        The weak point of modern Russia is the Kremlin.

        Capitalism.

        At its core, capitalism is closer to human nature, only capitalists are different. Such as ours, who grabbed the national treasure and continue to steal further, or as the head of the large construction corporation St. John's from the USA, who allocated 198 people for the New Year. 10 million dollars in bonuses. The size of the premiums was from 50 thousand to 230 thousand, depending on the length of service. So the Kremlin and its greedy and thieving friends are still a weak point.
        1. tihonmarine 25 December 2019 13: 11 New
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          At its core, capitalism is closer to human nature.

          To whom it is, but I personally am a "Stalinist."
          1. lis-ik 25 December 2019 13: 23 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: lis-ik
            At its core, capitalism is closer to human nature.

            To whom it is, but I personally am a "Stalinist."

            I’m not talking about political views, but about the essence of a person as an owner by nature. I sincerely sympathize with the Stalinists.
            1. tihonmarine 25 December 2019 13: 55 New
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              I’m not talking about political views, but about the essence of a person as an owner by nature.

              I agree with you here. Man is an owner by nature. As soon as you begin to speak critically about capitalism, the people immediately minus.
        2. your1970 25 December 2019 13: 36 New
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          SwitchgearPNOI St. John’s Construction Corporation from the USA, which allocated for the New Year 198 people 10 million dollars in bonuses.
          here is either the first truth or the second. Either the corporation is known to have more than 200 people, or it allocated a prize to engineers and managers
          Together does not converge
          1. lis-ik 25 December 2019 13: 48 New
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            Dial on the Internet about this news, everything is written there and there is even a video, maybe not a corporation (I also thought about the head office), but there is still something to learn for our bribe takers.
            1. your1970 25 December 2019 15: 38 New
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              Quote: lis-ik
              (I also thought about the head office), but still there is something to learn from our bribe-takers
              - how to give out babos close to yourself persons ?????? !!!!!!! belay belay belay belay
              I’d better teach my cat how to eat sour cream ......... lol
              1. lis-ik 25 December 2019 16: 10 New
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                Maybe it’s not a corporation, but only 198 people. I don’t remember the text exactly.
                1. your1970 25 December 2019 22: 39 New
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                  employees total 198 people

                  Why then 10 extra lyamas, on a banal construction site? Don’t forget that there it is a very large figure ...
                2. your1970 25 December 2019 23: 00 New
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                  Everything is much simpler there, I found, this is a real estate agency selling large real estate (warehouses, office and shopping centers). These are a little not builders, they are realtors who have about the same salary. The bonuses are certainly large, but not wildly large.
                  So there’s nothing interesting in Milan about the fight against bribery in this news; the usual dough sharing among realtors .....
                  I really thought he was real hard workers made happy .....
      2. yfast 25 December 2019 13: 00 New
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        Unlimited monarchy, not capitalism.
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          Quote: yfast
          Unlimited monarchy, not capitalism.

          Rather, oligarchic feudalism.
      3. Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 24 New
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        Where in the Russian Federation saw capitalism? At least close to normal?
      4. Doliva63 25 December 2019 17: 39 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: prior
        The weak point of modern Russia is the Kremlin.

        Capitalism.

        good drinks
    2. 72jora72 25 December 2019 13: 37 New
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      The weak point of modern Russia is the Kremlin.
      But unfortunately, many still do not understand this.
      1. lis-ik 25 December 2019 14: 26 New
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        The weak point of modern Russia is the Kremlin.
        But unfortunately, many still do not understand this.

        They make arguments to these nonsense, they like to live in shame and apparently like it when they are frankly laid on them to please their personal interests, and not the interests of the country and people. I like when Russia openly wipes its feet, both in sports, in economic activity, and in politics. They do not wonder why and because of whom this is happening, they blindly believe the "News" and the noisy talk shows of federal channels, they are unlikely to wake up when the "successful" team will dump the loot from here.
      2. O. Bender 25 December 2019 16: 48 New
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        Oligophrenic capitalism
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          Oligophrenic capitalism

          Capitalism, it is capitalism, whatever you call it.
  • LMN
    LMN 25 December 2019 11: 40 New
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    They are extremely cautious in discussing problems with SP-2 and are trying to put everything as if the gas pipeline is a purely Russian project.

    The official authorities of Germany quite clearly formulated their attitude to these sanctions. It is quite possible to give a mirror answer. With each such next step of the United States, there is an increasing likelihood of retaliatory action.
    And what were they supposed to do, or would they declare war? request
    Politics does not tolerate fuss and sudden movements.
    These sanctions actually hit the United States. They are more and more showing their essence in relation to the EU. The Russian Federation can only wait until the "client ripens" (I mean Germany and France).

    In addition, there were no goals right now to complete the construction. We and Germany have time.

    You can, of course, give out an “agreement” with the Kiev authorities on a further 5-year pumping, but this does not cancel the fact that the money doesn’t smell.

    And someone doubted that they would just leave Ukraine like that ?!
    In fact, 40 billion cubic meters is the minimum for the normal operation of the gas pipeline.
    Putin has long confirmed that Russia will maintain transit through Ukraine.
    What the journalists say there is their speculation.
    1. 777-3-59-97 25 December 2019 11: 51 New
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      With each such next step by the United States, there is an increasing likelihood of retaliation.


      Mnogohodovochka, cunning plan.
      Again all beat)
      1. LMN
        LMN 25 December 2019 12: 03 New
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        Quote: 777-3-59-97
        With each such next step by the United States, there is an increasing likelihood of retaliation.


        Mnogohodovochka, cunning plan.
        Again all beat)


        The irony is not entirely clear.
        Germany is bound by numerous internal treaties, including military ones within the framework of NATO. They cannot be taken and ignored simply. If you are not Ukraine or the United States, of course.
        The United States is a large figure, and it’s not so easy to dump it. The time is needed. The Russian Federation is fit enough not to react hysterically and calmly to allow the United States to show itself.
        I think this is right. request
    2. rocket757 25 December 2019 11: 58 New
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      And someone doubted that they would just leave Ukraine like that ?!

      Kraina is a passing element! There, because of the “brotherhoods of the Bulgarians,” Serbia, in general the Balkan consumers, and some others from the southern gay men could have been left without gas !!! Also Transnistria with Moldova! Does it need Gazprom to lose these CLIENTS ??? Everything fell into POINT, as a temporary solution to the problem ... and SP 2 will be completed, with a delay of half a year, a maximum.
      1. LMN
        LMN 25 December 2019 12: 25 New
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        Kraina is a passing element! There, because of the “brotherhoods of the Bulgarians,” Serbia, in general the Balkan consumers, and some others from the southern gay men could have been left without gas !!! Also Transnistria with Moldova! Does it need Gazprom to lose these CLIENTS ???

        I commented on the part of the article where Ukraine is mentioned. And yes, I completely agree with you.
        If Gazprom, went on principle, would a crisis happen. Why does the Russian Federation need this? Everything in my opinion is pretty good. Russia behaved as an adult.
        1. rocket757 25 December 2019 12: 49 New
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          If Gazprom, went on principle, there would be a crisis.

          Left the “market with your goods” your place will be quickly divided! And the geyropa, this is a conquered, tidbit and can only refuse it.
          1. LMN
            LMN 25 December 2019 12: 58 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            Quote: LMN
            If Gazprom, went on principle, there would be a crisis.

            Left the “market with your goods” your place will be quickly divided! And the geyropa, this is a conquered, tidbit and can only refuse it.

            I’m sure that if SP-2 and the Bulgarian part of TP were ready, we would still sign a contract with Ukraine. If we shut off the valve, there would collapse. Not immediately, of course, they would eat up gas reserves and then empty. And the Russian Federation cannot allow this. Finish essentially. request
            1. rocket757 25 December 2019 14: 36 New
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              If we shut off the valve, there would have been a collapse.

              The jumpers will not appreciate it, because there is nothing, but the adequate ones are silent in a rag .... and God's people ??? Well, that must have fallen from the sky!
              By the way, if there is NO transit, they have part of the regions without gas left at all, the system is so built, and there IS SOMEONE to rebuild there!
              1. LMN
                LMN 25 December 2019 15: 11 New
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                Quote: rocket757
                Quote: LMN
                If we shut off the valve, there would have been a collapse.

                The jumpers will not appreciate it, because there is nothing, but the adequate ones are silent in a rag .... and God's people ??? Well, that must have fallen from the sky!
                By the way, if there is NO transit, they have part of the regions without gas left at all, the system is so built, and there IS SOMEONE to rebuild there!

                In my opinion, for the second time, what “jumpers” will think. This is important for us. For Russia. It is clear that they are given a chance. How will they take advantage of them, their problems. Wanted independence? Independently!
                After all, this situation is also observed from the outside. To kill physically or economically, the wretched, wounded and weak, is not in the rules of Russia. We have once again proved that we are able to resolve "crises" without using force winked Otherwise, how will we differ from the USA. This is another plus in the piggy bank of the Russian Federation, in my opinion.
                The only participant in the conflict in the Middle East with whom ALL participants in the conflict want to have business, and these are as many as 6-7 countries + Kurds. This is authority and respect that has been earned for centuries!

                PS.Me happening with Ukraine resembles the Soviet cartoon "Feast of Disobedience."
                There the essence is this. The children were not satisfied with the adults, believing that they were ready to live independently. And one morning all the adults left. In the morning there was a celebration, in the afternoon there were problems, and in the evening they began to cry and call adults. lol
                1. rocket757 25 December 2019 18: 20 New
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                  There the essence is. Children were not happy

                  There, the essence is such that everything RUSSIAN is squeezed out of Russian ... it was possible with many, and if nothing is done, this bodyaga itself will not end.
                  Therefore, crush the Kukuev power as we can .... and then all the sisters will have to hand out earrings!
                  ONE CHILD NO CHANNEL!
                  1. LMN
                    LMN 25 December 2019 18: 39 New
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                    Quote: rocket757
                    Quote: LMN
                    There the essence is. Children were not happy

                    There, the essence is such that everything RUSSIAN is squeezed out of Russian ... it was possible with many, and if nothing is done, this bodyaga itself will not end.
                    Therefore, crush the Kukuev power as we can .... and then all the sisters will have to hand out earrings!
                    ONE CHILD NO CHANNEL!

                    All right.
                    What do we do? winked
                    1. rocket757 25 December 2019 18: 47 New
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                      Everyone does what he can, and the state does what ..... it’s short, so as not to spread on the floor of the sheet.
                      1. LMN
                        LMN 25 December 2019 18: 58 New
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                        Quote: rocket757
                        Everyone does what he can, and the state does what ..... it’s short, so as not to spread on the floor of the sheet.

                        I agree! hi
            2. New Year day 25 December 2019 15: 28 New
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              If we shut off the valve, there would have been a collapse.


              And Russia would pay. I don’t remember how much, but Gazprom paid a fine over the past valve shutoff
              1. LMN
                LMN 25 December 2019 15: 44 New
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                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: LMN
                If we shut off the valve, there would have been a collapse.


                And Russia would pay. I don’t remember how much, but Gazprom paid a fine over the past valve shutoff

                What are you all about money then? what
                You don’t care what will happen to Ukraine and how will they see us in the world?
                1. New Year day 25 December 2019 15: 58 New
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                  You do not care what will happen to Ukraine

                  Good question, only who profiled her? And now we tear a vest? Judging by what has been happening on TV in recent years, the fate of Ukraine has already been determined.
                  How will they see us in the world? The son-in-law does not get out of business trips. I asked him a similar question, the answer of His partners is “afraid”
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                    LMN 25 December 2019 16: 06 New
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                    Good question, only who profiled her? And now we tear a vest?

                    Hmm ... who's tearing a vest then ?! belay
                    The Russian Federation did not let them drown completely, no more. He sits and looks, and waits ... laughing We do nothing lol

                    The son-in-law does not get out of business trips. I asked him a similar question, the answer of His partners is “afraid”

                    Afraid of what? winked
                    1. New Year day 25 December 2019 16: 14 New
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                      RF did not let them drown

                      Highly controversial statement
                      And they are afraid of us that we will start a war
                      1. LMN
                        LMN 25 December 2019 16: 38 New
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                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Quote: LMN
                        RF did not let them drown

                        Highly controversial statement
                        And they are afraid of us that we will start a war

                        I repeat. If Gazprom went on principle and did not sign a contract, collapse would happen in Ukraine!
                        If not, justify how they would "survive."
                        And no need for money ... lol
                        "
                        According to the Deputy Prime Minister, the compensation that Gazprom agreed to pay to Naftogaz is a “drop in the bucket” "


                        They’re not afraid of us, it’s not true. I’ve been living in Germany for 10 years and heard only 3 times. Once from a political emigrant from Iran, who fiercely hated Russia, and argued that the weapons of the Russian Federation and Russia itself are “garbage” (censorship). The refugee from Chechnya also said that for some reason he was thinking of returning to Moscow, and not to Chechnya.
                        There were also three pensioners in the Canary Islands, who at breakfast discussed how evil Russia attacked Georgia. lol It was in 2008. It is clear that the victims of TV.
                        That's it! I have never once met any sort of aggressive opinions against Russia.
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                        If Gazprom would go on principle and not sign a contract

                        That would be bad not only for Ukraine, but also for us
                        The son-in-law speaks neither with emigrants, but with local business circles. Agree, these are different things.
                      3. LMN
                        LMN 25 December 2019 18: 36 New
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                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Quote: LMN
                        If Gazprom would go on principle and not sign a contract

                        That would be bad not only for Ukraine, but also for us
                        The son-in-law speaks neither with emigrants, but with local business circles. Agree, these are different things.

                        Local "business circles" spoke out long ago. Industry is against and for lifting sanctions against Russia.
                        They are not afraid of us, but they want to work with us)))
                      4. New Year day 25 December 2019 18: 37 New
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                        Looks like there are different opinions in business circles
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                        LMN 25 December 2019 18: 42 New
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                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Looks like there are different opinions in business circles

                        Judging by SP-2, there can be no two opinions yes
                      6. New Year day 25 December 2019 18: 44 New
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                        Judging by SP-2

                        You are too categorical. Just this case does not mean anything. What specifically did the Germans, the Dutch and. Against the will of the USA? - Nothing. Bye words
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                        LMN 25 December 2019 18: 50 New
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                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Quote: LMN
                        Judging by SP-2

                        You are too categorical. Just this case does not mean anything. What specifically did the Germans, the Dutch and. Against the will of the USA? - Nothing. Bye words

                        Less than a week has passed. Are you kidding me like that ?? laughing
                      8. New Year day 25 December 2019 18: 52 New
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                        Wait and see. The Germans will not go against the States. You obviously think differently. Time will tell
          2. rocket757 25 December 2019 18: 39 New
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            If Gazprom went on principle and did not sign a contract, collapse would happen in Ukraine!

            What does the principle have to do with it, you have to get out on the go, and according to many, the worst option is chosen.
            Quote: LMN
            They are not afraid of us, this is not true.

            A person is smart, looks, reads, analyzes, draws reasonable conclusions, conducts thoughtful conversations !!!
            The layman, gathered in a crowd, doing something in a crowd, is not much different from what the SHEPHERD controls AS WANTED.
            And beyond the hill, the layman is afraid of us, because they told him they are afraid ... though now there are other problems, worse, arise !!!
            At my side are 5 families of returnees from Deutsch Vaterland ... over the past 3 years, another family came here, looked closely.
            So, it’s not from joy that they come from here, here ...
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            LMN 25 December 2019 18: 47 New
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            Quote: rocket757
            Quote: LMN
            If Gazprom went on principle and did not sign a contract, collapse would happen in Ukraine!

            What does the principle have to do with it, you have to get out on the go, and according to many, the worst option is chosen.
            Quote: LMN
            They are not afraid of us, this is not true.

            A person is smart, looks, reads, analyzes, draws reasonable conclusions, conducts thoughtful conversations !!!
            The layman, gathered in a crowd, doing something in a crowd, is not much different from what the SHEPHERD controls AS WANTED.
            And beyond the hill, the layman is afraid of us, because they told him they are afraid ... though now there are other problems, worse, arise !!!
            At my side are 5 families of returnees from Deutsch Vaterland ... over the past 3 years, another family came here, looked closely.
            So, it’s not from joy that they come from here, here ...

            I apologize of course, but I didn’t answer you hi
  • SOVIET UNION 2 25 December 2019 16: 16 New
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  • Ross xnumx 25 December 2019 12: 01 New
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    Politics does not tolerate fuss and sudden movements.

    But he does not like the turtle pace in solving topical issues. Here wise people have already painted near Khokhloma a situation where Russia could foresee at least a rental of offshore pipe layers ...
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      LMN 25 December 2019 12: 42 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      Quote: LMN
      Politics does not tolerate fuss and sudden movements.

      But he does not like the turtle pace in solving topical issues. Here wise people have already painted near Khokhloma a situation where Russia could foresee at least a rental of offshore pipe layers ...

      What would this rent give us ?? request
      A contract with Ukraine would be anyway!
      In any case, the Russian Federation would not behave like a pig and would not drown Ukraine to the end, even if SP-2 and the Bulgarian part of the Turkish stream were ready smile
      And without rent, the SP-2 will be completed.

      However, I agree that assuming about 5 years ago such large-scale projects could have been laid already by a Pioneering Spirit type stacker. He not only puts pipes, there is also installation and dismantling of drilling platforms. We, taking into account claims to the Arctic, will need such vessels. would be one.
      Preferably icebreaking))) These are my Wishlist course lol
    2. rocket757 25 December 2019 12: 46 New
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      Here wise people have already painted near Khokhloma a situation where Russia could foresee at least a rental of offshore pipe layers ...

      Striped NAGNET anyone who fall into their sphere of influence, and ALL serious, effective guys get ... pipe laying class Swiss Allseas is gone! A very specific area of ​​activity. Gazprom hired the BEST and they did EVERYTHING that they could! They can’t butter with stripes, and their national governments will not help them, because they have a lot of work, then, precisely in stripes, for their companies.
      You can envision anything, especially when it all has already happened !!!
      1. prior 25 December 2019 12: 53 New
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        "Striped will FORGET anyone who falls within their sphere of influence .."
        General Karbyshev did not bend ........ and he did not have accounts, real estate, relatives in Germany and the USA!
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          Was that a thought? or such humor?
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        LMN 25 December 2019 13: 07 New
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        By the way, yes.
        And was the point in the lease, if the sanctions still apply to owners of equipment involved in the project?
        Well, Allseas would withdraw its ships. Do not give? laughing
        1. rocket757 25 December 2019 14: 49 New
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          Striped politicians cover up their selfish interests! The Kukuevskaya country is pushed so hard on us - a roto that it seems straightforward that it didn’t give up to them, they have no such plans to keep it!
          In short, this is very inconvenient for us, all the more so the green rooster has now fluffed its tail, the comb has reared and crowed all the way .... only, in fact, it has not moved away from the pan ... they will soon begin to pluck it.
      3. New Year day 25 December 2019 15: 30 New
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        With striped they can not butt


        There is no reception against scrap, but there is no scrap
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      wise people have already painted a situation near Khokhloma when Russia could foresee at least renting offshore pipe layers.

      Well, weird. Apparently no additional pipe layers are required. In general, the situation resembles a storm in a glass of water ... There is a question, but it is not critical. Everything is solvable. Panic can end, get out of boats and diverge in cabins fellow
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        Of course pipelayers are not needed, and why then get out of the boats? We will lay pipes with them.
  • SOVIET UNION 2 25 December 2019 12: 52 New
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    These sanctions actually hit the United States itself.
    Why are they hitting the USA? The US task is to create a gas shortage in the EU, and then propose its own.
    Russia can only wait until the "client ripens" (I mean Germany and France).
    Well, yes, they will ripen! As in the 30s or as with the Mistrals?
    And someone doubted that they would just leave Ukraine like that ?!
    Not for that they took Ukraine to throw. Surely there was an economic interest. Like, or become an intermediary in the sale of Russian gas, or (and) even chop it off and sell your own. Probably they did not know about HPP with SP-2 yet. And if Russia also impose a war with Ukraine, then a war can bankrupt Russia. Probably curators set such goals. It turns out that Russia struck two blows. Russia missed them or will strike back?
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      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      These sanctions actually hit the United States itself.
      Why are they hitting the USA? The US task is to create a gas shortage in the EU, and then propose its own.
      Russia can only wait until the "client ripens" (I mean Germany and France).
      Well, yes, they will ripen! As in the 30s or as with the Mistrals?
      And someone doubted that they would just leave Ukraine like that ?!
      Not for that they took Ukraine to throw. Surely there was an economic interest. Like, or become an intermediary in the sale of Russian gas, or (and) even chop it off and sell your own. Probably they did not know about HPP with SP-2 yet. And if Russia also impose a war with Ukraine, then a war can bankrupt Russia. Probably curators set such goals. It turns out that Russia struck two blows. Russia missed them or will strike back?

      As I understand it, this is a question for me. hi
      Why are they hitting the USA? The US task is to create a gas shortage in the EU, and then propose its own.

      Well, imagine that you live in a village. There is a centralized well from which residents receive water for a fee.
      But there is an activist who has drilled a well on the site and offers you water at 30% more expensive. In addition, you need to go to the water for him.
      One fine day, the equipment at the central well receives damage and the activist does not hide that he damaged it.
      Do you think residents will run to buy water for him or change their attitude towards him ?! winked
      This is exactly what I had in mind. It is mean and swine, in relation to its cohabitants (partners). smile

      And someone doubted that they would just leave Ukraine like that ?!

      I meant that the Russian Federation will not leave Ukraine laughing
      At least she won’t finish it.
  • Cowbra 25 December 2019 11: 41 New
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    To begin with, sanctions are imposed on the SWISS company, and losers as long as there is such Germany)
    Guys, a question. Suppose Stalin does something, because of which the Naglia of France declares a trade war?
    Well, two countries substitute the other in the equation. And Stalin had nothing to do with it ... And so - well, nothing like that repeat
  • knn54 25 December 2019 11: 47 New
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    And was there even a weak attempt on the part of the powers that be of the Russian Federation to take at least WHAT retaliatory measures: For example, not to sell Yamal LNG to the Yankees. Really the responsible persons did not understand that something else will follow the actions of Denmark.
    Let's imagine that SP-2 will work. And WHO will guarantee that the Americans will not let “liquefied” gas from the same Yamal branch. It’s not so difficult to build a station.
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      And WHO will guarantee that the Americans will not allow “liquefied” gas from the same Yamal along the (German) branch. It’s not so difficult to build a station.

      And what is the economic sense in this? lol
      Ukraine can also theoretically buy liquefied gas, and drive it through the pipe to Europe laughing
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      For example, do not sell Yamal LNG to the Yankees.

      So they achieve this - retaliatory sanctions against business. We cannot apply sanctions against the United States as a state, and against business we are not profitable.
  • rocket757 25 December 2019 11: 51 New
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    The fact that the United States seems to have found a weak spot in modern Russia.

    And let's see how and when this NEXT problem will be solved.
    And then we will speculate that minke whales were found there, when they found, why they found.
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    As for me, Russia's weakest point is the interests of its ruling class.
  • kosovvskiy 25 December 2019 11: 53 New
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    "They are extremely cautious about discussing problems with SP-2 and are trying to put everything as if the gas pipeline is a purely Russian project."

    Well, what are they particularly worried about. All project financing from them goes under Russian state guarantees.
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi 25 December 2019 12: 21 New
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      Extreme caution - understandable. The Americans said in plain text - your money will become ours. Property, accounts, transactions. They turned Europe into a second Iran, which took away 140 billion in the mid-70s, and now the experience is spreading to the whole world.
  • Ross xnumx 25 December 2019 11: 55 New
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    The United States found a weak spot in modern Russia

    The Russian authorities, by their commitment to the liberal market system of the economy and lobbying for the interests of the minority, themselves created a situation in which the United States felt the selfish preferences of people who could influence Russian power.
    That's all. That is why no one could influence Stalin, and he influenced many.
    1. AU Ivanov. 25 December 2019 13: 55 New
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      Stalin, just, refused to land in Hokkaido precisely under the pressure of Truman.
  • Arthur 85 25 December 2019 11: 58 New
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    But what if MANPADS are delivered to Afghanistan? And in Colombia - low-noise, compact diesel-electric submarines?
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      But what if MANPADS are delivered to Afghanistan?

      Or maybe it’s better to establish a "dope" transit from Afghanistan to Europe?
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        Or maybe it’s better to establish a "dope" transit from Afghanistan to Europe?

        Then stop this transit
    2. donavi49 25 December 2019 12: 21 New
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      The Americans were going to dump from Afghanistan. Therefore, at least it is possible to deliver the Taliban to the Taliban. Now this is the problem of the region, not the United States.

      With low noise and compact mini boats - even for military customers it’s not possible to do it. Therefore, here by.
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        Okay, then the Mexicans have printing equipment for printing American passports, or what these non-Christians have in place of passports. Kim can give something that does not fall under the contract. Gus is good, for example. Or a navigation system.
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        Another option is to hit the most ... The most valuable thing they have. According to SWIFT. I vaguely imagine how it works, but I'm sure it can be disorganized for a couple of days. The blow will be such that these senators fly like a glove from a silencer. When banks, instead of overnight loans to each other, transfer money to Guinea Bissau ... This is naturally the Apocalypse.
  • Loess 25 December 2019 12: 05 New
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    In the United States, after analyzing the situation, they came to the unequivocal conclusion that in the current conditions Russia cannot afford to stop transit through the territory of Ukraine.
    Who said that? In my opinion, it was more profitable for states to prevent transit through Ukraine and interrupt the construction of SP-2. This would cause a violation of gas supplies to Europe, forfeits to Gazprom, image losses in Russia's reputation and the possibility of crushing part of the gas market under it. And in this situation, the conclusion of a transit agreement with Ukraine, almost simultaneously with the suspension of construction of the SP-2, looks completely different. Especially considering that neither Russia nor Ukraine had any desire to conclude such an agreement. Actually a "draw".
  • Sitearvi 25 December 2019 12: 11 New
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    “You can say as much as you like that sanctions“ only raise the domestic economy along with the degree of patriotism of the population, ””

    What kind of patriotism, patriotism would be if the day after the sanctions, Gazprom would continue to finish building the flow. And so only the awareness of weakness and that we have nothing to be proud of.
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    Interestingly, Gazprom will Swiss Allseas to expose some forfeit for failure to realize the pipe laying?
  • Oyo Sarkazmi 25 December 2019 12: 15 New
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    Pipelayers left the laying area, as the United States announced the complete confiscation of the property of "sub-sanction" companies - confiscation of real estate, confiscation (not freezing!) Of bank accounts, confiscation of transactions through SWIFT. Such a threat of a complete robbery of Western companies! And the Swiss will swallow it! There is more than one bantustan in the world!
  • tihonmarine 25 December 2019 12: 15 New
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    Russia itself entered the large “capitalist family”, and therefore it would be foolish to expect from the same Gazprom to uphold Russia's positions in terms of protecting geopolitical interests
    There is no doubt about this "To live with wolves, howl like a wolf." Although Western wolves have more appetite.
  • Bshkaus 25 December 2019 12: 18 New
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    You can ban me indefinitely, but the Americans did their part brilliantly

    In the States, having analyzed the situation,

    This is true, contrary to popular belief in VO, and in Russia, too, that the Americans are stupid, and the American president (insert the correct name) Man Morally Omitted, they did an analysis and coordinated their actions in space and time with filigree accuracy. But what our “not of this world” thought about is my HUGE QUESTION.

    Gazprom needs money ...

    They calmly waited for Gazprom to pump a lot of money from its own and Russian budgets (which it had mercilessly battered in recent years) into the construction of Nord Stream-2, and then, with a stroke of the pen, beat the overclocked building on a concrete wall just before the finish.
    As a result, two birds with one stone were killed:
    1-The gas pipeline has been stopped, or at least detained for an indefinite period (despite the bravado of our officials, which is beginning to openly annoy).
    2-A huge amount of money literally went to the bottom. Let's be realistic: any unfinished system is in a vulnerable state and comes to gradual destruction, or requires even more money for its temporary maintenance in an unforeseen mode.
    All that I am witnessing now indicates that Gazprom has great risks of bankruptcy, and this is a geopolitical victory for the United States
  • Gardamir 25 December 2019 12: 20 New
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    Add to the article. Constantly criticizing Soviet power, the current rulers are stepping on the same rake.
    1. Kronos 25 December 2019 13: 00 New
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      They are doing much worse than in the USSR
  • Eskobar 25 December 2019 12: 23 New
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    You see, right now, at the top, we will draw any conclusions. If the States and the North Europeans wanted to, our country would be caught up to the full. Ban the import of high-precision machine tools, electronics, components for farm production and its equipment, mining equipment and many industries will stand up like this gas pipeline
  • Roman 57 rus 25 December 2019 12: 27 New
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    Under Joseph Vissarionovich, for some individuals this situation would have ended very sadly ... And what will Vladimir Vladimirovich do? He himself will rake taking the blame upon himself or will he still punish and make anyone work?
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      He himself will rake taking the blame upon himself or will he still punish and make anyone work?

      Who cares? The decision is not his
  • andrew42 25 December 2019 12: 30 New
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    Non-lethal weapons are oligarchic capitalism in Russia itself. Demography as a result is evident. "Living wage" - there too. And SP-2 is nothing more than toys of the “Russian” oligarchy, which separated its assets from the world financial pyramid. As O. Bender said, "Pussycat, we are strangers at this celebration of life."
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  • Xenofont 25 December 2019 12: 34 New
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    Everything reminds one of Pearl Harbor's eve. Further it will only get worse and the blockade will intensify.
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    Washington was able to stop the project with a point strike, which is strategic for Russia and Europe.


    Well, let's say not to stop, but to slow down - remember "they count the chickens in the fall."
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      do not stop, but slow down - remember, "they count the chickens in the fall."

      Of course. The senators' trick is more demonstrative than really creating a problem. And she does not find much support in the states, the Yankees are committed to free trade and business. And it hits their allies.
  • ⁣Geo 25 December 2019 12: 44 New
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    The fact that the United States was able to create difficulties for the implementation of SP-2 is not surprising. The fact that Europe will not go seriously against the USA is not a surprise.
    It is surprising that such moments for our top-managers were a surprise.
  • Kerensky 25 December 2019 12: 48 New
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    I understand that the Swiss Allseas received a certain letter with threats and they curled up. Our letters were sent to Switzerland? There, such money is tied up that Gazprom can simply kill the whole company’s management with their families. And the hands of American mercenaries.
  • Guards turn 25 December 2019 12: 50 New
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    Drive there "Academician Chersky" he will finish building. In business, especially in the presence of such partners - opponents as the United States and their henchmen, there is always option B.
  • asv363 25 December 2019 12: 50 New
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    If a couple of months on the air of the federal media discussed “the collapse of Ukrainian transit” (“at best, on the shoulder of the shoulder, we will sign a one-year contract for pumping 10 billion cubic meters”), now this rhetoric has changed.

    Dear Alexey! Public rhetoric of such a shock on federal channels only "puts the bandwagon" on the authorities. For then it turns out that transit through Ukraine is necessary, even if both SP2 lines were already built. About two weeks ago, with the help of other participants, I calculated that in order to preserve gas transit to Europe through the pipeline system in 2018 (202 billion cubic meters), transit through Ukraine should be from 30 (optimistic scenario) to 40 billion cubic meters cube (realistic scenario). About 40 since 2021, PJSC Gazprom eventually agreed.
  • Roman070280 25 December 2019 12: 57 New
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    Gazprom’s repayment of $ 2,9 billion in debt to Naftogaz under the Stockholm arbitration award is a “drop in the ocean,” Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak said in an interview with Russia-24, TASS wrote on Wednesday, December 25.

    "To predict how much anyone won can neither Ukraine nor we. It can be clearly said that the $ 2,9 billion that we will pay to enforce the court decision that has already entered into force - it's a drop in the ocean in comparison with those claims, potential risks that could be for Russia. These amounts would be much higher, "said Kozak.


    Beautifully justified .. for them it's a drop in the ocean ..
    1. Al_lexx 25 December 2019 13: 11 New
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      And there is.
      Then read, as an educational program. Everything is written in a simple, understandable language for any cook.
      https://regnum.ru/news/economy/2814472.html
    2. Стена 25 December 2019 13: 27 New
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      But for operations for children they collect money by sms
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        In the richest country in the world - the USA, money for the treatment of the poor, imagine, is also collected through charitable foundations.
  • Al_lexx 25 December 2019 13: 09 New
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    That’s all nonsense. Storm in a glass.
    There are more than one pipe layer on this planet. Some escaped, others will come running. And the States have once again shown their European allies what they really are for Europe's allies.
    That's the whole damn thing!

    And the author of the article wishes out for reality and contributes to this very storm in a glass, sometimes turning into bustling in the closet.
  • Operator 25 December 2019 13: 13 New
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    Our response to the non-lethal weapons of the United States is the deployment of the flying Peresvet, Sarmatians, Poseidons, Petrels and Zircons (with the latter targeting American military bases in Germany in the ground version).
  • DMB-2020 25 December 2019 13: 17 New
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    It is not clear why, in making such a decision, America did not consult with Russia. After all, the question of what to do with the end of the pipe that sticks out of the water 125km from the coast remained unresolved. This poses a risk to shipping in that area. If the end of the pipe is displayed on a raft or pontoon - you need to do an anchorage for the raft, paint the raft in red. It is not a fact that the raft will normally anchor. If you heat that end of the pipe, it is possible that water from the sea will flood onto the shore at the other end of the pipe. America's irresponsible decision that creates a headache for all of humanity.
    1. Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 15: 26 New
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      are you crazy head to think? especially since in 2020 they will complete
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        1. Nastia makarova 26 December 2019 08: 01 New
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          Trolls populated this site !!! already said, Miller, Medvedev that will be completed until the summer of 2020
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            1. Nastia makarova 26 December 2019 08: 50 New
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              you and the Crimean bridge will not be built and a lot of other things and sp2 will not be built although it is 93% ready
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                1. Nastia makarova 26 December 2019 09: 35 New
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                  the bridge is already built
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                Nastya, stop feeding the Troll! He even wrote Nick with an error ... there is a letter M, superfluous!
  • vladimirvn 25 December 2019 13: 27 New
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    The Ministry of Education is punching lawyers at an accelerated pace, and in European courts, for some reason, Ukrainian win. Or are they specially selected in Gazprom? Analysts, strategists and lawyers of the company, led by its head, at least resign. A better trial!
  • Air force 25 December 2019 13: 56 New
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    German experts come out with unclear comments, because they do not have a big discord, they did not expect that the owner would "lower" his vassal in plain sight, regardless of his dignity. They are trying to make Russia a loser, although in this situation they lost the most (they are all of Europe). The fact that now there is an open call from all sides, that everything was lost, as always, Russia lost, etc. purely human enrages. Only a few days have passed since the announcement of the sanctions, and they are already ordering a requiem. Why fuss? We must wait until the turbidity settles in the water in order to see the fish. The fact that Denmark was delaying with permission to lay SP2 for a reason, I think not only the commentators of VO but also in the Kremlin initially knew that the USA would impose sanctions against SP2 was also predictable, they would impose sanctions for 5 years in a row, why not introduce them them against the strategic project of the Russian Federation and Europe. The fact that transit through Ukraine would continue was also clear, especially since Putin always talked about this. Well, why should Russia give up another pipe? The more threads the better, just SP2 is needed so that Ukraine could not terrorize the Russian Federation and Europe, and ideally, Turkish Stream and SP1 and SP2 and SP3 are needed. Gas consumption in Europe is projected to grow. The fact that with the help of gas transit in the Russian Federation supports radical radicals in Ukraine is doubtful, what do those who want to say about this? Stop transit, make yourself an unreliable partner and froze Ukraine to punish the radicals, and who said that the radicals will suffer from this? Yes, for the sake of such a scenario, on the contrary, their American curators will raise their satisfaction and Europe will be obliged not only to buy LNG, but also to increase aid to Ukraine. But not much later they will set fire to this region completely and send all the anger and the masses to Russia. PS In the whole situation in the long run, Russia will still be the winner. Who says the people are sorry, therefore Ukraine needs to block the transit so that the radicals are not supported, they think little about the people, who want to quickly defeat everyone and end up in the “ladies” while playing chess, they are fools.
  • Sosnitsky 25 December 2019 14: 05 New
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    What nonsense! Both world wars were conceived as artificial to achieve world goals. And here on the site private issues are discussed that financial bags were up to something at some point in her life. Everything has been thought out for a long time and is being implemented exactly in sequence very, very long time ago. And then it will be. Ask a German professor. She will tell you everything how they deceived the Germans and set them up, who and how did the Holocaust, and the Germans are still paying for it and an infinite amount of such things. Everything is led to a great bang, which will wipe everyone off the face of the earth in the name of worthless goals. And it will be right. Until people come out of self-slavery and rise spiritually and mentally strong and begin to own their rights. Sixes will disappear.
  • 1536 25 December 2019 14: 11 New
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    There is only one conclusion: serious business is impossible with the Germans and various other Swedes. Consequently, we must stop driving Russian minerals to Europe by initiative. Let them come and ask to sell gas, oil or something else. It is necessary to take 100% prepayment from them, insure transactions, etc. To do this, we need high-ranking specialists, lawyers, extra-class economists, and not “appointees” who have successfully become obsolete or, according to some other anthropometric signs of “good men” and “aunts”. Yes, it will be difficult, but one can understand this, rather than bowing before the brutal and out-of-mind American old people and the assurances of carriers of different snowstorms that "everything is fine, a beautiful marquise." Capitalism does not forgive mistakes, and we have the moral and ethical admonitions of hungry predators. It won’t end in good unless you change the policy.
    1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 14: 22 New
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      Blackmail will not work! The Russian Federation is a raw material power, and if you stop driving minerals, then where will they get the currency? He will say that they decided in Russia to announce sanctions to the whole world! Europe will switch to the raw materials of Africa and Latin America. Plus, the countries of Central Asia such as Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and others will very strongly win. They will replace the Russian Federation in deliveries, and Russia will lose the entry of foreign exchange and lose the market!
      1. 1536 25 December 2019 14: 29 New
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        What blackmail are you talking about? There is much in heaven and on earth that dreams of your philosophy.
        At least in Russia, every citizen will know what he and the whole nation are capable of. He wants to bow, in this case nothing will save him. And how do you think you can lose what you did not have? This is not a market, this is robbery in broad daylight. But the market needs to be organized, it is necessary to fight for it.
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          This is blackmail! The current oligarchic elite is not capable of more! Blackmail to make concessions!
          1. 1536 25 December 2019 14: 32 New
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            Teach, dear, materiel:
            Blackmail (fr. Chantage) - the threat of compromising or libelous disclosures with the aim of extorting someone else's property or various concessions.
            So far, only Russia is being blackmailed.
            1. Horace the Philosopher 25 December 2019 14: 33 New
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              Learn and you, dear: I wrote above:
              Horace the Philosopher (Horace the Philosopher) Today, 14:31

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              This is blackmail! The current oligarchic elite is not capable of more! Blackmail to make concessions!
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                I read this, therefore, I answered you that the use of the term "blackmail" in this context is incorrect.
                As for the "oligarchic elite," if she has a head on her shoulders, and not in her pants, sooner or later a sense of self-preservation will work. If I am mistaken, then the country does not expect anything good.
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                  1. 1536 25 December 2019 14: 45 New
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                    I understand that this winter in central Russia does not favor romanticism, but you don’t have to be such a pessimist, dear, if you live in Russia, of course.
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                      I try but somehow it does not work!
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    But I still try again.
    The third conclusion: it is not in vain that the Red Army liberated Europe from Nazism, the Western financial bags hastily set about discussing the issue of dollar domination, so that to get the opportunity to subjugate entire countries by "non-lethal" methods.

    How I support your conclusion! good

    For the remaining time, you will more than once make sure that the problems facing the country for years will not be solved by this composition. For it is not in their competence. No one will listen to the slaves in the manor house. And these satisfied "kids", working out daily allowances and believing in the infinite "to live happily ever after," will be forced to grieve, like their predecessors in 1917 ...
    Otherwise it doesn’t work. Good and fair? Sorry, not at these doors ...
  • Sergey-8848 25 December 2019 14: 53 New
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    No one in their right mind will sell the latest technology to the side. That is why the economic policy of our liberals of the 90s (they say, buy everything), and led us into a deep crisis. Foolishly after hearing such judgments, we broke everything up and sold out and stayed with the technologies of the 80s of the last century.
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      Americans only need this to sow pessimism in Russian society, and then take everyone warm.
      If we can make the most modern weapons, and this is true, then we can improve the situation in the economy as a whole. Now is not the year 1932, and modern Russia is not Soviet Russia, which has just emerged from the First World War and the Civil War. Listen less to the gentlemen of the so-called “communists,” some of whom are insolent to the point that after spending all their conscious lives abroad on state support, they are now trying to impose on us a kind of “new socialism” with a human face. Swam, we know how it all ends. Fear Danians bringing gifts - said the ancients.
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      that's it!!! Gorbachev and Yeltsin are to blame !!! only some technologies even the USSR bought
  • Eugene (Eugene) 25 December 2019 15: 44 New
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    Mistakes made in the spring of 2014, the refusal to take Novorossia under its wing - to rely on partners and then say that we believed the Americans and refused to help ...
    "And they meanly deceived us." I'm talking about our enemies ("partners" of the anti-Russian "elite" uncles and aunts whose brood lives and rejoices over the "hill"). Then it can be said at the conference that they took someone by the throat and forced them to fulfill the “Minsk agreements” - they didn’t want it that way - naive, “but not of their own free will, but by the will of Prince Miloslavsky.” When Russians (Little Russians, Great Russians and worthy sons and daughters of other nationalities) are killed in New Russia; it is possible for the six “exceptional” people to promise gas at a discount - this is in return for what we could take, for starters, the South Russian gas pipeline and the scientific potential of New Russia and put pro-Russian forces there. But this legacy (scientific potential) should have been "preserved" for representatives of the new 4th Reich (those who worship the red dragon - Dan’s knee). And now, in the appendage, you need to pay a fine of 3 conventional monetary units. This is only the beginning (or continuation). And then the heroes declare to the United States that they are ready to acquire new weapons from them to fight
    Muscovite aggressor. And you can sing a song: "I’m not a sucker, not a goof at all, but there is some catch in the Minsk agreements." You can watch with a grin or irony how pop diva Oksana Marchenko - the wife of Viktor Medvedchuk, that Medvedchuk - who, like her, doesn’t feel sick in Kiev and does not whisper about Putin’s godmother and godmother’s godmother, it turns out that they’re zradniku nenki ". And for some reason Bandera’s spit on it. Indeed, according to their logic, it turns out that they are traitors to Ukraine - this is a super prize for them, and they are zero attention. And our people are killed near Donetsk and the baderlogs feel calm because the Yankees are allowed to kill our compatriots.
    "Ah new year, Moscow - fireworks and drinks,
    And I lie in the trench all icy,
    Continuous shots, Katyusha beats again
    A German shell flew overhead. "
    (From a song performed by Michael Krug)
    And they will pull the nerve strings and spoil Russia more and more, because they see how those who consider them "partners" make concessions.
    And then let Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin not be surprised that his fate is similar to the fate of Gaddafi and Hussein. This is an option. But those to whom he distributes awards, such as Matvienko and other associates of Peter, will they intercede for his desecrated honor of Gaddafi Petersburg? (there are honored heroes - soldiers of Russia and others, but this is not about them). Eh, we urgently need to solve the gas issue in the Baltic Sea, and then celebrate with Frau Merkel a beer, which she brings (sends) personally to Vladimir Vladimirovich. And at the same time, Frau did not forget how she personally supported the Maidan in Ukraine. And she, too, will intercede after the "trial of conscience" for "St. Petersburg Gaddafi"?
  • Gennady Fomkin 25 December 2019 20: 35 New
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    The article completely ignored the role of the EU chemical industry.

    LNG cannot be used in the chemical industry, all necessary fractions are removed from it.

    Therefore, LNG, in principle, cannot completely replace natural gas for the chemical industry. Even if it is competitive in price. The share of chemistry in the industrial production of Europe is huge. hi
  • Gennady Fomkin 25 December 2019 20: 37 New
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    There is one long-standing Russian evil associated with the reluctance to get involved in projects with products of a high degree of redivision - the inability to sell expensive. I would even say - inability to sell as such. The West is strong precisely in the culture of commerce that spans several centuries - in other words, they don’t even have the idea that "business will not come true." Hence the money for innovation, and for further development, and the capture of new markets, and unfortunately, the parasitism of financiers as a side effect.
  • Gennady Fomkin 25 December 2019 20: 38 New
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    The purpose of this war is one - for the management of the world energy. Energy is one of the branches of geopolitical management. Not? laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 25 December 2019 20: 40 New
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    Well, why no one wants to figure out a question? (((

    that everyone is attached to this LNG? What is the difference between LNG and PIPELINE GAS ????

    LNG is only methane, it is only energy - the market volume is from 40 to 60 billion dollars per year

    The pipe is a MIXTURE, methane, propane, ethane helium, etc. .... is EVERYTHING. gas chemistry, industry, energy. only by car industry - the market is 400 billion dollars a year !!!

    and to the price driver: ......... the fundamental rule "the cure for low prices is low prices" ....
  • Gennady Fomkin 25 December 2019 20: 46 New
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    Europe did not have any alternative to Russian gas and will not, and given the fact that Norwegian gas production will fall, as well as its share in the EU market - everything else is dancing with tambourines

    there were, I think, 2 alternatives - “to finish building” and then press Ukraine with its transit in full. but by the end of November, I think "intelligence reported" that the Swiss will darn and dump, without even waiting for a letter from the Ministry of Finance. for Gazprom, this doesn’t change anything at all - by the end of the year, in any case, they will finish these few tens of kilometers in Denmark and launch

    in general, nothing critical happened at all - there was a hope that the Swiss would not merge so quickly and quickly (in the same place a month is given for execution, and the letter of the Ministry of Finance should be, and not a letter from some senators) - but no, it did not grow together, well, ok - half a year do not solve anything

    By the way, there is infa that ours in South Korea order an analogue of the Spirit pipe-laying machine, with an eye on the development of the Arctic, for there is now no confidence in contractors laughing