Lukashenko about relations between Kiev and Moscow: Ukraine, although small, but gave rise to a clash

Lukashenko about relations between Kiev and Moscow: Ukraine, although small, but gave rise to a clash

The President of Belarus on the eve of a lot of time devoted to issues of contacts with Russia and problems of integration. Making it clear that a discussion of the topic of creating a truly united state is taking place (despite official statements that this is not so), Lukashenko said the possibility of a “very simple option”.


From a statement by the head of the Republic of Belarus to the editor-in-chief of the Ekho Moskvy radio station, Alexei Venediktov:

It (a simple version) will be perceived in both Russia and Belarus in terms of a single state: you are joining Belarus. And what, the Russians will be against? Not. Belarusians who are outraged here (talking about the opposition - approx. “VO”) - too. Listen: Russia is part of Belarus. Why not consider this option?

This statement was made by Alexander Lukashenko after numerous questions about whether Belarus is part of Russia.

In his interview, the Belarusian leader noted that no one in the Union State shares his sovereignty: neither Belarus, nor Russia.

Lukashenko:

Not only Russia provides some support to Belarus, but Belarus also provides a huge number of services to the Russian side.

In his interview, Lukashenko addressed the issue of the crisis in Ukraine. According to the President of Belarus, on the eve of the crisis in relations with Moscow in Ukraine, language and national issues began to unfold. Alexander Lukashenko noted that following this they overthrew Yanukovych and “the mess began”.

President of Belarus:

I do not justify Russia now. I do not blame Ukraine. But be that as it may, Ukraine is at least small, but gave rise to this clash.

After that, Lukashenko said that if Russia continues to talk about Belarus as a “parasite”, each time raising the topic of oil and gas supplies for the New Year, then “we will say: thank you, don’t! You can’t write everything in money. ”
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  1. Same lech 25 December 2019 07: 30 New
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    Lukashenko again through the pipe Friendship weaned the calico ...
    here is the artist ... I’ll take away both pipes if you don’t give the oil for free ... well, there’s nowhere else to go ... he’s not going to have any appetite ... give him something, give him ... and more and more for free ... the mustachioed mug does not burst from such desires.
    1. Vasyan1971 25 December 2019 07: 35 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      give him something, give him se ... and more and more for free ... the whiskered mug will not burst from such desires.

      Do not wait! She has the ability to stretch. Dimensionless. Yes, and we have full of our own.
    2. bessmertniy 25 December 2019 07: 39 New
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      Old Man is a fan of the interests of Belarus at the expense of Russia. And in such a calico there can be no single state. There must be a total benefit.
      1. Basil50 25 December 2019 08: 20 New
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        This is something new in international relations.
        You can simply translate it this way: you-RUSSIA support us and we (father) have decided now you-RUSSIA, are simply obliged to become some kind of region of Belarus. And then kaaaak offended ................
        1. Chaldon48 25 December 2019 08: 35 New
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          This is how one can imagine that Russia would become part of Belarus. It looked about the same as if the bear decided to climb into the fox hole.
          1. pru-pavel 25 December 2019 08: 39 New
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            Foxes do not climb bear holes at all
            1. Ross xnumx 25 December 2019 09: 14 New
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              Quote: pru-pavel
              Foxes in bear holes don't climb at all

              You would have decided on preferences in the fauna.
              The bear does not climb fox holes, and the Fox sometimes looks into the bear’s den when he sleeps ...
              laughing
              1. pru-pavel 25 December 2019 10: 02 New
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                This is something new. Nikolay Drozdov should clarify this question.
        2. MstislavHrabr 25 December 2019 11: 59 New
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          Or maybe you should read this: “you pay a low salary to Russian citizens, my citizens need to pay more” ... I’m sure that if in Russia the level of well-being of Russian citizens would be much higher than among Belarusians, the desire to unite among Belarusians would be much greater. I think that both here and in Belarus they perfectly understand this. That's just, instead of increasing the standard of living with us, we are trying to lower the standard of living for them ...
          1. Astoria 25 December 2019 13: 58 New
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            And if you look at this question from the other side. What is the nominal (in terms of PPP) GDP per person in Belarus is one third less than in the Russian Federation (taking into account access to the Russian market and various kinds of subsidies). Roughly speaking, for 10 million people, this level of GDP needs to be increased by $ 30 billion per year (10% of the RF budget), to hell does the RF and its citizens need it, does anyone ask them about this? Economically, this union of the Russian Federation is not necessary in principle, from the word in general.
            1. MstislavHrabr 25 December 2019 15: 00 New
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              According to your considerations, since we have more GDP, then the income level of Russian citizens should be 3 times higher than in Belarus. Even I don’t notice this ... The question is not how much the country produces i.e. not in GDP, but in how the funds received from the sale of this product are distributed among citizens. For 5% of the super-rich people of our country, it is certainly unprofitable to have Belarus nearby, in which the distribution of income is much fairer than in Russia. Well, when combined, their citizens may demand a fair distribution of GDP revenues ...
              1. Astoria 25 December 2019 15: 31 New
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                then the income level of Russian citizens should be 3 times higher than in Belarus.

                i didn't say at three i said at third. And a third there is this difference in income. How do you plan to compensate for it for the Republic of Belarus - if at the expense of your pocket you compensate for $ 30 billion a year - then go ahead and with the song, it is available for your understanding? laughing
          2. Basil50 25 December 2019 16: 19 New
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            Please note just the same classic position of this ......
            The fact that in Belarus there is at least some standard of living at the expense of RUSSIA is taken for granted. Insolence is generally prohibitive and in that it also sets a price for which he and his like-minded people will agree to something.
            Sound familiar?
      2. rich 25 December 2019 08: 21 New
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        From a statement by the head of the Republic of Belarus to the editor-in-chief of the Ekho Moskvy radio station, Alexei Venediktov:.. "you are joining Belarus. But will the Russians be against it?

        No, the Russians will not mind - we are for it with both hands. Take it, Old Man is "Echo of Moscow" along with Venediktov. We have at least air will become cleaner
        1. VeteranVSSSR 25 December 2019 12: 12 New
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          The words quoted by the author and you were a joke.
          Watch the interview ... it will be interesting ....
        2. Lelek 25 December 2019 13: 24 New
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          Quote: Rich
          No, the Russians will not mind - we are for it with both hands. Take it, Old Man is "Echo of Moscow" along with Venediktov.

          hi , Dmitry.
          The Ear of Moscow? But what about it? The LAS (a) has other preferences and strategic plans, and talking about integration, a common currency and solemn gatherings in warm rooms under a collection of national banners is for bargaining on preferences and freebies from a simple-minded neighbor (like - you’ll take me first, and then I I'll ride on you), and in which case ...:
          1. fraders 26 December 2019 08: 50 New
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            after the words,
            “As for the West ... Yes, but if Russia ... well, suddenly, as some here say, and here, it will try to violate our sovereignty, - well, you know how not only the world community will react ... They will already be drawn into "The West and NATO will not tolerate this, because they will consider it a threat to them. In this sense, they will be right in some way."
            the phrase follows
            "And he asked the president a question: You don’t allow us to let tanks go to Moscow if they get out of there? But I say that if someone wants to fight with Russia, well, we won’t move aside."
            quote from an echo interview
      3. Greg Miller 25 December 2019 08: 51 New
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        If Putin defended the interests of Russia as the Old Man defends the interests of Belarus, then Russia would be a Great Power, and not as now, a raw materials appendage of the West, China and the feeding trough of the offshore aristocracy ...
        1. Krasnoyarsk 25 December 2019 12: 23 New
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          Quote: Greg Miller
          If Putin defended the interests of Russia as the Old Man defends the interests of Belarus, then Russia would be a Great Power, and not as now, a raw materials appendage of the West, China and the feeding trough of the offshore aristocracy ...

          You are not quite right. Putin defends the interests of Russia. It’s just that he considers the interests of Russia through the prism of the interests of his friends, I will not list the names, they are already well known.
        2. eckons 25 December 2019 13: 39 New
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          There is no one to defend interests like that. There are no other countries in the world ready to date the economy of another country as Russia dates the Byelorussian. Old Man could for a change, or to come to his senses, to defend interests in such a way, for example, in relations with Germany.
      4. Berber 25 December 2019 09: 02 New
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        Old Man is not a fan of Belarus, but for his "figure" at the helm of Belarus. The local prince does not want to give up power. Again I recalled the ever-memorable EBN (the earth was glassy to him). If not for his Belovezhskaya Accords, all this could not have happened.
      5. Krasnoyarsk 25 December 2019 11: 05 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        There must be a total benefit.

        And it will be, but only for the peoples of Russia and Belarus. And what is the benefit of father? - no! He does not want to become the governor of the western federal district. Therefore, there will be no union. But father will find a thousand reasons for accusation against Russia, and on every such occasion he will declare that we do not need such an alliance.
    3. To be or not to be 25 December 2019 09: 00 New
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      "Echo Morskva" give interviews? Yes, and “Shaggy” This is not the level of the PRESIDENT ??? Or bake ..t .. strong ??
      It’s clear - the collective farm is voluntary .. wink
      1. Olezhek 25 December 2019 09: 10 New
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        "Echo Morskva" give interviews? Yes, and “Shaggy” This is not the level of the President


        Which president is such an interview

        Classics of the genre:
        - Bachiv?
        - Bachiv.
        - Well?
        - Shaw well? Yaka power - such a terrorist attack ...
      2. Dr. Sorge 25 December 2019 09: 57 New
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        Answer yourself, why is this echo still generally sponsored? Are not the Millers and Fri. want to ruin our relationship?
        1. dSK
          dSK 25 December 2019 13: 58 New
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          Gazprom is only half "our property" ....
  2. Hazarov 25 December 2019 07: 30 New
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    And it’s right to dare the Old Man! Bo it, if cho, it doesn’t matter how many divisions the Old Man has! The important thing is how many there will be when the Belarusian divisions approach Moscow!
    1. Same lech 25 December 2019 07: 37 New
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      First you will lead these divisions through the Belarusian swamps ... the hour is uneven, you will have to bail out again ... from there to be pulled where Lukashenko pushes you.
      1. Hazarov 25 December 2019 08: 26 New
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        Pro, what are you doing? About some swamps? Carrying what and what? AND?
        In the garden of elderberry, and in Kiev uncle? So what? no
        1. Same lech 25 December 2019 08: 28 New
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          Here I am talking about too ... when finally the Belarusian divisions will approach Moscow. belay
          In Ukraine, some local journalists are already traveling around tanks on Kremlin Square ... and then Belarusian divisions appeared at the Kremlin walls ...
          mdaaaa what the world is becoming more miraculous and miraculous.
          1. DenZ 25 December 2019 09: 17 New
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            Quote: The same Lech
            .and then Belarusian divisions appeared at the Kremlin walls ...

            Well so otherwise Russia will not be part of Belarus. wink
        2. MstislavHrabr 25 December 2019 12: 07 New
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          Nazarov your dad did not work as a policeman by chance? Where do you want to lead the division ... You do not have the right to go on behalf of the Belarusians. Belarusians themselves rot for your words and ideas, your rotten ones for eggs will be hung up and left to hang in a swamp ...
    2. Olezhek 25 December 2019 08: 10 New
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      And it’s right to dare the Old Man! Bo it, if cho, it doesn’t matter how many divisions the Old Man has! The important thing is how many there will be when the Belarusian divisions approach Moscow!


      It is important how many people will remain in them after receiving the first combat order! soldier
      1. Hazarov 25 December 2019 08: 39 New
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        Oh how! Heh! That if the Soviet army of Belarus will be placed in conditions under which it would receive such an order, then the whole army of the Russian Federation will become part of it, than the Reds from Belarus will flee!
        Not everything is measured by money! There is still honor, conscience and pride! There are things among which philistinism has no place!
        1. Same lech 25 December 2019 08: 45 New
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          That if the Soviet army of Belarus will be placed under the conditions under which it will receive such an order

          He won’t get ... that we don’t know your Old Man ... a cunning bug ... for no reason he will not budge.
          1. Hazarov 25 December 2019 12: 32 New
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            Will move! Do not worry! Still, how to move!
            If the likeness of Ukraine begins in Russia, then it will definitely move! Then the Old Man will have no other choice! Just go to Moscow and Kiev! soldier
        2. Olezhek 25 December 2019 08: 53 New
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          Heh! That if the Soviet army of Belarus would be placed in conditions under which it would receive such an order,


          . Alexander Lukashenko has warned Russia about a possible war with NATO if it tries to violate the sovereignty of Belarus.


          Savytsky army of the Lithuanian Belarus? yah? wassat
        3. Non liberoid Russian 25 December 2019 09: 12 New
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          What are you talking about, ? did not eat in the morning or what? or orderlies with sedatives did not reach?
    3. Andrey VOV 25 December 2019 08: 53 New
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      Here you have a Hazarov bulb stuck in your head!
    4. To be or not to be 25 December 2019 09: 14 New
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      Hazarov (Konstantin) Today, 07:30
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      And it’s right to dare the Old Man! Bo it, if cho, it doesn’t matter how many divisions the Old Man has! The important thing is how many there will be when the Belarusian divisions approach Moscow! "" "

      In the ground forces of Belarus brigade structure .. No divisions laughing
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_Ground_Forces
      1. Hazarov 25 December 2019 10: 25 New
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        Clear. Those. You want to say that the Russian Armed Forces, in the person of its ordinary citizens, will defend the Trotsky-Stonemen Mensheviks, led by the great Zy, to defend the FSB liberals led by Zhirik, to defend the Vlasov-Putin gang of thieves and to defend the White Guard Natsik right-wingers?
        Ha! Do not rush my slippers! You are poorly taught in your Anglothan!
        1. To be or not to be 25 December 2019 11: 35 New
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          Hazarov (Konstantin) Today, 10:25 AM NEW
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          Clear. Those. you want to say sho sun .. "
          ... as the famous Yakubovich said in the famous game: "Played, but did not guess a single letter, spin the wheel further!"
          I’m translating into Russian - I’d go to the forest with my delirium and Trotskyism, do not forget to bring
          1. Hazarov 25 December 2019 12: 10 New
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            Heh! That these are all whom you offer me to offer, they are not mine! They are yours! Hehe!
            And there is an example of this in the territory of the former USSR. These are events in Kyrgyzstan. There, the yellow PLA bandages quickly explained everything to everyone! And neither the army nor the police of Kyrgyzstan did anything, and even took their side!
            Here is such a squiggle!
            So go and learn lessons in your Anglothan! soldier
      2. Hazarov 25 December 2019 10: 44 New
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        For the money people kill! But for the money no one will die! They die for ideas and a just cause, not for money! soldier
        1. MstislavHrabr 25 December 2019 15: 26 New
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          Nazarov, I read your other comments and I see that you are a good person, you seem to be happy for justice, for the Soviet government (and it was not so bad). Here are just a choice among the inhabitants of Belarus today not between the Soviet and bourgeois authorities. Unfortunately, you won’t save the Soviet power without Russia in Belarus ... The Belarusians have the choice now: to betray Russia and go to the West in the hope that someone will pay for this betrayal (this is what Ukraine did), or to remain in difficult a minute, and only then, together with the Russian people, to achieve a fair distribution of benefits within our common Motherland.
          1. Pustogolov 25 December 2019 17: 37 New
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            Why did Ukraine betray Russia?
          2. Pustogolov 25 December 2019 17: 39 New
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            Ukraine is being pulled west by Russia in one direction. May leave us all alone.
          3. Hazarov 25 December 2019 17: 45 New
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            Sorry, but here is a military review site, not good or bad boys and girls!
            And, what I write is not related to this kind of children's fun! I open a strategic vision of the situation without cheap picking and dividing into good or bad! soldier
    5. Astoria 25 December 2019 11: 15 New
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      yeah, half a million Belarusians officially living in the Russian Federation, not counting hundreds of thousands of unofficials who escaped from the paradise of the Republic of Belarus, I think they will hang a mustached agronomist on the first aspen, along with the whole brood in the Smolensk region laughing
      1. Olezhek 25 December 2019 13: 59 New
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        yeah, half a million Belarusians officially living in the Russian Federation, not counting hundreds of thousands of unofficials who escaped from the paradise of the Republic of Belarus, I think they will hang a mustached agronomist on the first aspen, along with the whole brood in the Smolensk region


        Something similar was told to us about Ukrainians .... request
      2. dSK
        dSK 25 December 2019 14: 07 New
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        Lukashenko will play out ... If Western "friends" stand the Belarusian "Maidan" - he and his retinue, like Yanukovych, will be transported to Russia by helicopters.
        1. Hazarov 25 December 2019 14: 56 New
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          These are your friends, not Old Man! And if they will be happy with something, then it is more likely that their friend Putin is in Russia, and the Old Man will have to save your ragged asses! soldier
          1. dSK
            dSK 25 December 2019 16: 10 New
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            Yanukovych also “flirted” with them, and it ended sadly for him.
            1. Hazarov 25 December 2019 16: 23 New
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              Sorry. You really do not see the difference between Ukraine and Belarus?
              1. dSK
                dSK 26 December 2019 02: 05 New
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                "Social engineers" fulfill orders and the number of pro-Western youth is growing. Lukashenko is playing in vain with this, duplicity always ended badly.
                1. Hazarov 26 December 2019 07: 42 New
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                  Social engineers? Do you know who this is and what they do? Do you know what the lag of their work is?
                  And why should their activities be synchronized with events? And what events? Why do you blurt out what you don’t have
                  clue? request
                  1. dSK
                    dSK 26 December 2019 07: 52 New
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                    Yes, we know - and who pays and what kind of music they order.
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  3. Vasyan1971 25 December 2019 07: 31 New
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    “We will say: thank you, don’t! You can’t write everything in money. ”

    Well, don’t, so don’t. You won’t be forcibly sweet ... Build an LNG terminal on your sea coast, now it’s fashionable, and get ready to import freedom molecules. You are in your own right!
    1. AlexVas44 25 December 2019 07: 54 New
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      So is export in their right - Lithuania has long been waiting for ions, electrons, nuclides and, in general, all such a set. laughing
      1. Vasyan1971 25 December 2019 08: 00 New
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        Quote: AlexVas44
        Lithuania has been waiting for a long time

        For it is said: "Wait and wait!"
  4. Lord of the Sith 25 December 2019 07: 32 New
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    Belarus is included as a province in the Russian Empire.
    How is this option?))
    1. kubanec 25 December 2019 07: 35 New
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      Historically True
    2. Uncle lee 25 December 2019 08: 13 New
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      you are joining Belarus
      With the capital in Minsk ...
      And the name already exists: Belorussia! drinks
    3. Piramidon 25 December 2019 09: 19 New
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      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Belarus is included as a province in the Russian Empire

      If the empire, then, as the Grand Duchy. laughing
      1. Lord of the Sith 25 December 2019 09: 20 New
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        Before the Great does not reach))
      2. Alexey RA 25 December 2019 11: 11 New
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        Quote: Piramidon
        If the empire, then, as the Grand Duchy

        No, thanks - the Empire was already advancing on the rake of the Grand Duchies. And twice.
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          2. Alexey RA 25 December 2019 14: 15 New
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            Quote: MRURRI
            Yes Yes. Only for some reason they kick the Empire and kick (then the boat without completing the work will leave the athletes without a flag)

            And this is a tradition. That Empire was generally somehow forced to revise the peace treaty concluded on the basis of the won war - and sign a new treaty, on much worse terms.
  5. Hagalaz 25 December 2019 07: 35 New
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    Slippery however laughing . I really liked it: it means Russia Belarus has a certain amount of support, and that it has a huge amount of services. Well harek! And about Ukraine, too, already snaking.
    1. Non liberoid Russian 25 December 2019 09: 14 New
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      girls on the highway also provide services
  6. Article 2 of the article 25 December 2019 07: 36 New
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    dad climax
  7. knn54 25 December 2019 07: 37 New
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    "He was crying, then laughing,
    That bristled like a hedgehog -
    He mocked us ...
    Well crazy - what do you take! "..
    Vladimir Vysotsky
  8. Mouse 25 December 2019 07: 38 New
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    Although Ukraine is small, it has given rise to this clash.

    little???? daddy cunning .... here small and does not smell ... just huge !!!!
  9. AlexVas44 25 December 2019 07: 47 New
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    Quote: Hazarov
    The important thing is how many there will be when the Belarusian divisions approach Moscow!

    What, apparently, a pleasant dream. soldier soldier soldier
  10. vitvit123 25 December 2019 07: 56 New
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    If I’m not mistaken, Belarus has a negative trade balance with Russia of 7 billion. And this is only with Russia. Belarus will never be able to earn money for itself! Well, where does he rock the boat! How sweet power is! Even with a lot of money for power they will hold on to the last!
    Well, he said normally, in that interview! And he will pick up the pipes and become independent in general!
    1. Ingvar 72 25 December 2019 08: 24 New
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      Quote: vitvit123
      Belarus will never be able to earn money for itself!

      Ukraine, with a more sad situation in the economy, is still afloat. I'm certainly the same with humor, I can assume that "it" does not sink, but the facts remain facts. And Belarus, with all the oddities of the Old Man, the economy is much better developed. And Russia's debt is 7 billion. in reality, not such a huge amount. hi
      1. vitvit123 25 December 2019 08: 33 New
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        The situation in Ukraine may be sad, it’s like someone. But the economies of these two territorial entities are completely different. The fact that Ukrainians are killing their own is from another opera. Does Belarus have a better economy? I do not agree here. It’s just that Luka turned out to be more cunning, and so far. Belarus seems to be 6 million people, and ukrov is under 60 ... what are you equal? .. in Ukraine, the economy was much stronger, they still can’t kill it completely. Once again - This is another opera, by the way the plot is one, here you are right!
        Well this time about 7 billion. I didn’t write, you (probably) still need to prove something. It is possible that Belarus is economically sound, but there is no way without Good Russia!
        1. Ingvar 72 25 December 2019 08: 40 New
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          Quote: vitvit123
          Does Belarus have a better economy?

          Agriculture is much better and more efficient than ours. The industry, albeit a stretch, but it works, and this is without a resource base.
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            Far away they will leave for agricultural.? We are generally in first place in the world in grain export, so what? Nobody talks about this - Everything is bad!
          2. Olezhek 25 December 2019 08: 49 New
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            Agriculture is much better and more efficient than ours.


            This is you, dear about the poor Belarusian collective farms, in which they do not pay salaries for months
            and turn off villagers electricity "for non-payment"?

            Two orders, no three! bully
          3. Andrey VOV 25 December 2019 08: 56 New
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            What kind of agriculture in Belarus ???? do you know how much it buys grain in Ukraine and in Russia, exemplary = indicative agro-towns, they are single and do not have a decisive role .. and factories working at a warehouse 4 days a week is an indicator of the success of the economy ??
            1. Ingvar 72 25 December 2019 12: 54 New
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              Quote: Andrey VOV
              What agriculture in Belarus ???

              I will answer everyone right away - After the program for the development of the village and its revival came into force, the number of livestock and poultry in Belarus almost doubled from 2005 to 2018. Milk by 20%. We have problems in milk, and I know this not only from the schedules - the daughter is a veterinarian.
              For grain - yes, due to a crop failure last year, Belarus was forced to import more grain. But for all lovers to poke a finger at grain imports, I recommend taking an interest in exporting flour from Belarus. They really buy grain in Russia and Ukraine, after which they sell flour to Europe and Russia. wink We mainly sell grain.
              The industry is really “squeezed” due to the limited sales market, but at the same time 17% of all combines in the world, 6% of tractors and 30% of dump trucks are produced in Belarus. These are real numbers that we cannot boast of.
              Forest exports from Belarus occur mainly in the form of lumber, rather than round timber. We only export round timber, 565 of which goes to China. This is despite the fact. that we are in first place among exporters of wood. hi
              1. Andrey VOV 25 December 2019 13: 59 New
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                Last season and the year before last, Belarus bought grain in Russia, both fodder and food products, as well as corn and barley. It is difficult to work with Belarus, they pay very poorly. Regarding flour, we produce and sell flour and we also sell it for export . What are the problems with milk? What antibiotics use? So they are used all over the world ... You look at statistics on the Voronezh and Lipetsk regions on the growth of milk production. Belarus sells flour and sugar to Russia only because there are these interstate agreements within the CIS and by our countries, we don’t need their sugar and flour, for the most part, there are so many that there are really problems with profitability for both beet and sugar producers
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                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  You will see statistics on the Voronezh and Lipetsk regions on the growth of milk production.

                  You will take an interest in what place for milk production in Belarus, and in which Russia. In addition, look at the statistics of growth in the import of palm oil, it is a direct competitor to milk fat. The structure of flour export to Belarus is the same in the public domain, and there are not only ties to us there. They buy the same barley from us, but then they sell us malt.
                  I don’t know how Belarusians pay, but I have not heard complaints about this before. request
                  Understand, I do not deny that the Old Man is sometimes weird, but his economy works more efficiently than ours. And this despite the fact that she is in a strangled state. Europe does not need an independent Belarus, just like Russia, however, the Old Man is spinning in a frying pan. But his friends are on a short leash. hi
                  1. vitvit123 26 December 2019 16: 48 New
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                    It will be effective at least 10 times, but it works thanks to Russia! And its effectiveness is your opinion. My colleague just returned from there, I somehow believe her better! And her conclusion: they are all poor there! Although we are not spoiled for work at DOSAAFE and salaries
              2. vitvit123 26 December 2019 16: 45 New
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                When will I wait for their economic independence! Look at least with one eye! I don’t understand one current yet: what about such an effective economic Luka as a beggar, asking Putin for everything and asking for it?
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                  When will I wait for their economic independence!

                  Probably earlier than Russia's economic independence. Our managers to the last will sit on the pipe, and tell tales of import substitution. laughing
                  1. vitvit123 26 December 2019 16: 50 New
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                    But essentially?
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                    I do not complain about our maneuvers. And life suits me! I’m not going to tell tales, unlike you.
                    1. Ingvar 72 26 December 2019 16: 59 New
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                      And life suits me!

                      I am the same, but the quality of life is not here. Fertility is declining, even migrants cannot rectify the situation, Rosstat is forced to admit the growth of the poor, the Ministry of Health acknowledges the decline in the quality of medical services, and you are talking about fairy tales. In the same Belarus, a small, but population growth.
                      1. vitvit123 26 December 2019 17: 06 New
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                        And I am satisfied with the quality of life! Yes, yes I'm talking about your tales. Once again I say this terr. Education exists only at the expense of us. All that you listed comes from this too. Because it’s groundless terr. Education draws resources from Russia. Once again, the question is: if they have such a super-tuned economy, why is Luka, as Madame of easy virtue, Putin constantly asking for any concessions? Well, everyone can see it! Do not agree? Or will you prove that this is not so?
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                        Education exists only at the expense of us.

                        I already told you that not only. Including, but not only. The numbers help you, they are in the public domain. You have a lot of emotions, I'm trying to operate with numbers. And they are not always in our favor. The fact that Lukashenko is asking Putin for something is that you and I are not aware of all the complications above, and it’s not for us to judge who is asking whom and for what. Moreover, according to the information of only "our" media.
                        If you want to discuss further, let's have numbers and dates, otherwise I don’t see any reason to continue. hi
                      3. vitvit123 26 December 2019 17: 31 New
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                        Once again, all their figures are an injection of the Russian economy! Any figures what if they live off the Russian economy? And where do you get the numbers from Belstat? This is 100% true, already doubts! Putin does not go to Luka to bow, but Luka constantly begs! This is all seen in the rhetoric of Luke - he asks constantly. That you are operating with Belstat figures, here is one of the cases when it is clear that Belarus exists at the expense of energy resources from Russia, thanks to the Russian market and thanks to external borrowings that are constantly increasing! Refute in essence this, and not confusion in particular. Otherwise, I see no reason to prove to one who sees black, but to the last he proves that there is white. I am sure in essence of the existence of Lukanomics you will not say anything. And do not forget about the tax maneuver of the Russian Federation, otherwise Luka is stung from him.
                      4. Ingvar 72 26 December 2019 17: 45 New
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                        Once again, all their figures are an injection of the Russian economy!

                        Not all, this time. Secondly, it would be nice to attach to these charges the figures of various Russian subsidies, and compare in percentage terms to purely Belarusian figures. Understand Vitaly, everything is relative. I do not deny that Russia's assistance is significant for the economy of Belarus, but your “Only at the expense of Russia” is slightly annoying.
                      5. vitvit123 26 December 2019 18: 11 New
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                        I, too, are a little annoyed by the rejection of the obvious, I stand it.
                        let’s answer your assumptions in this way, I ask you, but how much we say and I just can’t get you a monosyllabic answer:
                        1. Why is Luka constantly with Putin? not the other way around!
                        2. Can Belarus live without the energy resources of Russia,
                        3. Can Russia do without selling resources of Belarus at preferential prices?
                        4. whether Belarus can do without the Russian market,
                        5. can Russia do without the market of Belarus
                        6. can Belarus live without borrowing money in foreign markets,

                        Please answer in monosyllables without verbal insenuations.

                        I do not know how much Luke has on our resources, but I know for sure that Belarus uses only resources from Russia. why then the numbers? That she takes oil from the Saudis at a market price? or gas (liquefied) from Qatar on the market buys? Well, why do I need numbers if anyone knows the answers to these questions?

                        and I still can’t believe the numbers, well, I don’t believe the numbers. there are a lot of numbers and all are different, you can pull up anything and anywhere, therefore I don’t believe it, but I believe what I see myself.
                      6. Ingvar 72 26 December 2019 18: 50 New
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                        Monosyllabic will not work, but I will try. 1) Most likely because the heads of less powerful states go to visit the stronger ones. I won’t tell you exactly, just like you did.
                        2) Yes, but it will be hard. The third question is related to the second meaning, and the answer is the same.
                        4) Yes, but you have to completely lie under the West. Those. will put up with the position of the vassal.
                        5) Of course, as without the market of any country.
                        6) I do not know, but almost all countries often use external loans.
                        But you can’t believe the numbers, it is they who give real information at the end of the equation.
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                        Well, I did not expect specifics from you, I expected such puns (excuse me, I call it that).
                        now my vision of the situation:
                        1. Luka goes for preferences to Putin (preferences are life support),
                        2. Without energy, Belarus will die quickly and without suffering,
                        3. Ukraine fell to the west - an example without comment, and at least the economies do not flourish there, especially before Ukraine fell to the west. I mean, if Belarus lies to the west, and there’s nothing to take from the west of Belarus except Russophobia, but it’s not expensive, bend right away (I understand that you don’t like this expression, but that’s the basis of my thoughts),
                        4. No, no ... Belarus will live without a market in any country, but without a Russian market, it will die, it will only suffer for some time.
                        5. Almost everything, this is not all, I think you agree. And, for example, Russia. As the West benefited us, he gave us loans (with and before the drunkard), but we almost gave them back, i.e. not only didn’t take it (under Putin), but we gave a lot of money, i.e. Our indicators are better than Belarus.

                        and about the numbers. You are cunning with them. And cunning in the fact that all their figures are good only thanks to economic assistance from Russia. Those. there will be no economic support from Russia, indicators will instantly change. You understand that. That's what I'm talking about. Whatever economic miracle is there, it is all based on the help of the Russian Federation. You understand and know this, and still take them away to private numbers. But there wouldn’t be numbers if it weren’t for the Russian Federation, in one sphere or another, that’s why I’m too lazy to shove numbers (in this case, it could be different, but why here? If everything is in sight). Well, even Germany is dying for our gas, but what about the economy of Belarus, without a single mineral (on a tangible scale, or you might still find it in error).

                        meaning on the example of my family: I also have indicators in the family (the numbers are different) are very good. the current behind these figures is the money that the state gives me (in one way or another). Maybe the example is clumsy, but the main thing is the meaning .. therefore I do not want to bother my head with the small numbers that exist (numbers) thanks to the Russian economy.
                        something like that ..
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                        Well, here are the numbers. please look and read (just after you became curious) ....
                        https://www.belrynok.by/2019/03/21/rastushhee-otritsatelnoe-saldo-belarusi-v-torgovle-s-rossiej-vinovaty-ne-tolko-energonositeli/

                        Well, read that it doesn’t hurt the rainbow figures for Belarus ...
                        Well, these numbers, I just looked, you can give others, this is not the point ..
                      9. Ingvar 72 26 December 2019 20: 04 New
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                        Once again - I am not saying that the Belarusian economy does not depend on Russia, it depends, but not on the word at all.
                        For this part of your link, I felt .... ashamed and offended.
                        According to Russian customs statistics for 2018, a decrease in the supply of Belarusian cheeses and cottage cheese to the Russian market by $ 12,1 million completely replaced by similar products from Argentina (+13,8 million dollars), Serbia (+8,1 million dollars), Chile (+3,6 million dollars) and other countries. The increase in Russian imports in this position totaled $ 22,3 million. A decrease of $ 74,4 million in Belarusian butter exports was partially offset by supplies to the Russian Federation from Uruguay (+ $ 20,9 million).

                        With a decrease in the export of Belarusian tractors and truck tractors by $ 35,2 million supplies of this equipment from China increased (+15,9 million dollars), Poland (+17,8 million dollars) and other countries.
                        Not with our own substitute, but with the goods of others. more than foreign manufacturers. no
                      10. vitvit123 28 December 2019 08: 55 New
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                        What you are ashamed of is not to be written here, it's about something else. But I’m not ashamed! What are their own? Ukrainians are also theirs ... we have a lot of ours when we need to strip money from Russia. And now the question is: that is, without this Belarusian miracle we can live in peace? More will be in the air!
                        And I prove that the Belarusian economy is completely dependent on Russia. And the Russian economy only feeds this parasite and parasites - 9,5 million.
                        Well, no need to leave the topic of numbers! And then you are ashamed, this is another question. What are the numbers? Something you do not refute the numbers?
                        Somehow you quickly switch to other morals. There are numbers you need to say either agree or not. Why bother? And then it starts YES, but not quite, but here it is NO but as if yes ...
                        But all my words are not from dislike for Belarus, but from a sense of justice. I do not like cunningly - wise insolents.
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                        Quote: vitvit123
                        Well, no need to leave the topic of numbers! And then you are ashamed, this is another question. What are the numbers? Something you do not refute the numbers?

                        Which ones, Vitaly? In your link, not a word about the Belarusian economy in numbers, the figures refer only to an increase in the export of Russian goods to Belarus, and the ratio of export-import between countries. What do they show? Objectively, the economy can only be judged by the rate of growth / decline in production, moreover, in the graph by year.
                        Their pace of production is growing many times faster. than ours.
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                        Thanks to what can something grow there? Thanks to our resources, and
                        to our market. This is the main thing. It doesn’t matter what numbers they have there and what numbers someone writes somewhere. Belstat or someone else, all through subsidizing Russia, directly or indirectly. They always try not to touch on this, the independence people always do not like to remember about it. I am very glad that people in Russia began to understand that Lukonomika is bullshit, I see this on this site, and on my friends. You, of course, use your numbers to comment on the comment thread, but that's up to you. I don’t know why you need it, but most importantly, most people opened their eyes to Lukonomika and I am very happy about this.
                        I’ll tell you again, a friend of mine recently went with this girlfriend to this Belarus. I don't lie to you a bit, she is struck by the poverty of the country and people. This is despite the fact that we work in DOSAAF and are not spoiled by money. Well, I argue with you, here is a simple example. She, (not at all rich) says that people are poor there. And I always knew that.
                        Let's finish now, on this.
                        Happy New Year to you! Good luck !
      2. vitvit123 26 December 2019 17: 36 New
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        And what is theirs media true about ours? All the ties above .. you don’t need to drag the conspiracy strongly, there is one tie - give, give, give ...
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        You do not answer one question. At once, either conspiracy was attracted or climbed into the little things, particularly everyday life, but I’m not trying to get interested in this and I’m not saying about it
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    And you play words very slippery, distorting the main idea, but this is not entirely correct ..
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    Why does Luke like ..... Putin begs? What an economy he has!
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    Agriculture is much better and more efficient than ours.
    Igor - do not hide from the truth tongue :

    Among the agricultural enterprises in the first half of the year, unprofitable and low-profitable (0-5%) prevailed. Belstat counted the first 38,5%, the second 33,3%. Only 14,4% of the reporting enterprises had a profitability of 10% or more, only 0,3% - of 30% or more. When calculating the net profit in agriculture, there are specifics. The authorities have two indicators - net profit taking into account state support and excluding state support. Net profit with state support increased by 40% to BYN 491,5 million. However, the share and number of unprofitable organizations with state support increased: from 9,8% to 11,7% and from 132 to 158 units. This is due to the reflection in 2018 of a part of losses of previous years. Due to the low base of last year in 2019, the overall result is still growing. A darker picture is revealed if financial investments in the form of state support are discarded. Then the proportion of unprofitable organizations increases from 61,2% to 63,3%, their number - from 828 to 857, and the amount of losses of unprofitable companies - by 11,7% to 331 million BYN. As of July 1, 2019, farmers owed creditors over 14 billion BYN. Overdue liabilities of this amount amounted to 3,284 billion BYN (23,4%). The total debts of farmers were equivalent to 248% of sales revenue. For comparison: as of July 1, 2018, liabilities amounted to 238% of revenue. There is an increase in debt burden. The accounts receivable of agriculture as of July 1, 2019 was equal to BYN 1,551 billion - 11% of the total liabilities of enterprises. This is one of the worst indicators in the Belarusian economy; they are not independently selected from such debts.


    Belarusian collective farm is a black hole hi
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      Too lazy to quote the entire article "What is happening at the largest industrial enterprises in Belarus?" In short. Industrial enterprises of the Minsk region produced 6.651 million tons of potash fertilizers. Compared to 2018, the physical volume decreased by 0.5% ... Decrease in the production of dump trucks was observed for 9 consecutive months, November was the most unfortunate month, during this period 43,7% fewer dump trucks were produced than in 2018 ... For 9 months Gomselmash’s profit from sales of products fell .. Maz- compared to 2018, the production of trucks fell by 14,2%, buses by 4,4%, in November 2019 the output of trucks decreased by 24,9%, buses by 22,7 %...etc. So effective economic management is evident.
  • Sergej1972 25 December 2019 09: 26 New
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    In Belarus, there are about 10 million people, and in Ukraine a little more than 40 million. Are you saying that Belarus’s population is almost half as low as that, and Ukraine is as high as one and a half.)
    1. vitvit123 25 December 2019 09: 33 New
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      Well, almost .. it's still not in two, but the meaning of my mistake has not changed at all!
      Be sure to clarify this point. But I always knew for sure that the population (quantity) is much larger in Ukraine.
      Yes, I looked, I agree. But this is only to enhance my education. Remember is not difficult.
  • VeteranVSSSR 25 December 2019 12: 26 New
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    Learn geography (n / classes):
    -Belarus 9 million people
    -Ukraine less than 40 million people.
    1. vitvit123 26 December 2019 16: 40 New
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      Why are you doing this? Why should I learn geography when I can find out in 5 seconds! If you do not know the population of any banana republic, you also need to learn geography? Or do you know everything in the world? Such comments are always surprising! Are you imagining yourself a know-it-all or something? Do you even understand how stupid it is?
      And just in case: do not tell me what to do and I will not tell you where to go!
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        Learning is never too late ...
        And learn everything in five seconds. not right, the brains dry out ...
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          One more question.
          Do you know the population of all banana republics?
          Do you understand what you write nonsense? And if the dispute continues, then. you do not know everything in this world, I’ll surely prick you with your own words. ? And it turns out that you yourself need to study, but you do not study!
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            Boy, I don’t know much ...
            For example, I still don’t know why ships don’t sink and how hedgehogs get together ... I understand, but I don’t know ....
            1. vitvit123 28 December 2019 09: 16 New
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              You will see a youngster (you can bring a lot of epithets) in the mirror, and even with an insignificant level .... in your place it was better to say that stupidity was smug and that's all. Your last comment on what? To insult me? I didn’t offend you ... there are enough of you smart (eccentric) people, I like you with your bacon ....
              And don’t worry, this is just a game!
              By the way, here alone, under the nickname North Extreme, also said that I was very young until we talked with him and as it turned out he was wrong. So if you use the word looser to rise at the expense of age, this is wrong and stupid again! But you can continue, amuse me a little!
        2. vitvit123 28 December 2019 09: 06 New
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          And learn everything in five seconds. not right, the brains are drying up ... [/ quote]
          This is generally a masterpiece. This is generally - how? I opened the book, climbed into the browser and found out that the brains were dried up ... then your methods in exercises are interesting! Please, if not difficult.
          By the way, the word ALL, I did not use, you used it!
          Well, you are IT, HOW?
          1. VeteranVSSSR 28 December 2019 09: 52 New
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            All-all-all ....
            How is that ?, but it is so !!! knowledge needs to be accumulated and put off somewhere (in the brain) in order to use it at the right time. But I climbed into the browser, in order to flash the erudition, I thought I forgot !!!
            The human brain must always work, otherwise everything is sad:
            -2 * 2 = opened browser
            -Ride to the author = opened the browser
            when mom DR = opened the browser, and there ... sadness.
            1. vitvit123 28 December 2019 11: 12 New
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              All accumulate and put off what they need. If you still did not know then you too. Do you agree?
              Someone from the smart said that if I do not know something, then this is because I do not need it! But you, of course, are smarter in this case! I am certainly impressed!
              And once again I say that one who wants to learn, to comprehend something can take knowledge in the browser as well. Your children, maybe grandchildren, including. If you do not know, I’ll at least tell you about this.
              With clever it doesn’t work all the same. But it's okay, maybe next time it will turn out we are all mistaken. Maybe you can catch me on something and it will be nice to you. So don’t despair and (all the same, advice to you) do not lose your FACE (although you’ve been amused by a young boy)!
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                And Happy New Year to you !!! ...
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                  Mutually!
                  The system did not miss one word, it will have to flood.
  • Olezhek 25 December 2019 08: 50 New
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    And Belarus, with all the oddities of the Old Man, the economy is much better developed.


    There has long been no economy.
    There are zombie companies that do not pay anyone and are not going to pay
    and can exist only with continuous "support" from the state budget.
  • Non liberoid Russian 25 December 2019 09: 16 New
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    But what protein should Russia only? other loans and no debts?
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      But what protein should Russia only?

      Japan, Germany and the United Kingdom are in the top five countries in terms of external debt, Russia owes nothing to anyone, except for this we write off debts ourselves, which the above countries do not. Compare the quality of life and the efficiency of the economies of all these countries. wink
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        when a person is not far away, the level of comments is the same ... you need to look with an eye to the future, and not to the present moment ... moreover, on debts that are not repayable from the scoop
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          Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
          when a person is not far away, the level of comments is the same ...

          I noticed this in your comments.
          Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
          especially on bad debts from the scoop

          Did Putin tell you that? laughing And didn’t you think that you don’t ask for debts to eat, and in 20-30 years the situation will change?
          1. Non liberoid Russian 2 January 2020 16: 05 New
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            where does Putin? scoop and commies pleased with irrevocable loans for the sake of some ideals on which the natives immediately put, which then hung on the balance sheet and what now to fuss and wait for the poor from the huts to give them away? and you don’t have to lie, the United States and the Japs and the European Union also write off debts for the sake of preferences for their companies ... how do we differ from them? simple practice
  • orionvitt 25 December 2019 08: 29 New
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    And he will pick up the pipes and become independent in general!

    Yeah, with such talk, either directly to Rostov or to The Hague. True, no one is waiting for him in Rostov, but in The Hague, the Western partners will accept the Old Man with pleasure.
  • Astoria 25 December 2019 10: 57 New
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    Belarus has a negative trade balance with Russia of 7 billion
    Here the question is different, without energy purchases, RB + has a normal balance with the Russian Federation. I can be mistaken, but own consumption is about 6 million barrels (with own production of about 2), but at the same time, Belarus purchases 18-24 million barrels from Russia.

    The answer is simple - do not purchase, and there will be a surplus to you. With gas, as I understand it, the problem lies in the low energy efficiency of the Republic of Belarus, increase energy efficiency and will not require 20 billion cubic meters of gas.
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      own consumption of about 6 million barrels (with own production of about 2)

      What is your own prey? Where is it in Belarus, oil fields? And, I realized, in the same place as the Belarusian Sea.
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      Hello .. So refined, they resell oil for currency on which they have a considerable gesheft, and gas goes there too. Okay, soon we’ll still build a nuclear power plant, with electricity, you can play around.
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      Maybe they do not live then advise? If, yes, if only ... why write if, etc. without the Russian Federation, the people of Holodig!
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    Well, then do not! Return the money and the planes that you took from Russia and go want the code ... Russia does not make sense to feed the second Yanukovych
  • Olezhek 25 December 2019 08: 01 New
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    No. Belarusians who are outraged here (talking about the opposition - approx. “VO”) - too. Listen: Russia is part of Belarus. Why not consider this option?


    We are waiting for the Belarusian guard in the Kuril Islands ... laughing lol yes
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    Not only Russia provides some support to Belarus, but Belarus also provides a huge number of services to the Russian side.


    For example? belay
    For points please, with detailed explanations.
  • Mavrikiy 25 December 2019 08: 12 New
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    Plan united state: you enter composition Belarus

    A single state is not an entry, but a union. A new one will be born. RUSSIA, EG, or something like that.
    You can’t write everything in money. ”
    Unprofitable?
  • Chingachguk 25 December 2019 08: 18 New
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    Tired of this parasite with its policy and its stupid statements! What sovereignty does Belarus have !? What is it manifested in? Belarus does not recognize the Russian Crimea? Maybe Lukashenko can afford to buy liquefied gas from the United States instead of Russian? Maybe in Europe and in the West Belarusian products from Santa Bremora are in demand? What did the president of a parasitic state on Russia’s neck think of his place under the sun without Russia? Did you want to jump? Meet in the anus with the Ukrainians? The West will give you a torch there so it wouldn’t be so dark!
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    Gypsies need to learn how to extort money so gracefully.
    1. Shooter22 25 December 2019 09: 34 New
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      And why should he learn, he is the son of a gypsy and a Ukrainian, and the same ethnic Belarusian as Saakashvili, a Ukrainian. Old Man is a competent business executive, but far from a sinner. In fact, he, being a representative of the corrupt elite of Belarus, is “afraid” with the same corrupt Russian authorities for some financial preferences for his clan, covering up all this with patriotism and the interests of the people. Remember the absurd idea with oil supplies from Venezuela. Can someone remember the landings and criminal cases in connection with the losses of Belarus in the implementation of this absolutely illiterate project?
      Old Man recently carries an outright blizzard. That you have not watched television RB. The population is being processed before the elections, and all this verbiage is aimed more at domestic consumption. However, betting on veiled nationalism is a highly controversial and dangerous party. One "comrade" has already slammed the country in a similar game, where the radicals now have real power. But the Old Man, after all, is “Mr. Exceptional” (so apparently he thinks). The Republic of Belarus is the Slavic world, and in the event of its separation from Russia, the Anglo-Saxons will do everything to etch this identity, which is now being rolled in Ukraine. Or do Belarusians think that their industry and agriculture will compete with someone in the West? Look at the once industrialized Baltic, there is nothing left. By definition, Belarus cannot be sovereign, because sovereignty is perhaps the only good. which she can sell profitably. To whom? This is where you really need to think.
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        That you have not watched television RB. The population is being processed before the elections, and all this verbiage is aimed more at domestic consumption


        Is this an interview with Venediktov?
        Original ..
        And then we have the Old Man - a single super leader, then only for Belarusians something is swinging there ...
        1. Alexey RA 25 December 2019 11: 18 New
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          Quote: Olezhek
          And then we have the Old Man - a single super leader, then only for Belarusians something is swinging there ...

          Let's just say that we know only part of what Lukashenko says "for internal use."
          And he says a lot ...
          Independence was very cheap for us: all the peoples fought, today our fraternal Ukraine is fighting.
          © AHL, 26.01.2017
          We are scared that Russia, they say, will invent its “centipedes” and will transport nuclear warheads on its own - and on health! If they have brains and money today that they don’t have, let them invent!
          © AHL, 14.08.2015
  • withoutreverse 25 December 2019 08: 25 New
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    A. Lukashenko .. old sly fox)) trolls all. man of moods.
  • Olezhek 25 December 2019 08: 34 New
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    From a statement by the head of the Republic of Belarus to the editor-in-chief of the Ekho Moskvy radio station Alexei Venediktov




    A strange person is Alexander Grigoryevich - he has access to the president of Russia, and he begins in a compassionate tone to discuss big politics with a certain Venediktov.
    What for? For what purpose does the president of Belarus need to meet with a certain Venediktov and cry for life?
    Who is Venediktov? What does he decide?
    Or do you need a "free vest" to cry over the "bad Putin?"



    Where is the flag of Venediktov? belay
    Once such a booze went, I would come with mine. lol
    1. Alexey RA 25 December 2019 11: 29 New
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      Quote: Olezhek
      A strange person is Alexander Grigoryevich - he has access to the president of Russia, and he begins in a compassionate tone to discuss big politics with a certain Venediktov.
      What for? For what purpose does the president of Belarus need to meet with a certain Venediktov and cry for life?

      Because in the Kremlin Lukashenko has become familiar. smile
      Well, another year, well, two. And then what? Then your red curls become familiar, and they will simply start beating you.
      © Ilf and Petrov
      Actually, the problem for Lukashenko is that Russia suddenly began to demand specifics in allied and fraternal relations. It used to be how it was: how to take money is a brotherly people, and how not to give or refuse return services is a sovereign state that you can’t put pressure on. But last year, the usual scheme was violated: first, Dmitry Kalkulyatorovich stated that "sovereign state - sovereign prices"and then the rest pulled themselves up ("tax maneuver is an internal affair of the Russian Federation, this is not your money"). So the AHL urgently needs to create the image of a" brotherly state ", which is with all its heart to Russia - and it’s brazenly and cynically spit on this brotherly soul with some mercantile demands to repay debts and either finally join the Union, or pay for everything at prices for sovereign states.
    2. DesToeR 25 December 2019 12: 21 New
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      Quote: Olezhek
      A strange person is Alexander Grigoryevich - he has access to the president of Russia, and he begins in a compassionate tone to discuss big politics with a certain Venediktov.

      You’re a strange person Olezhek: they wrote a series of articles about Belarus ... like an expert. But you don’t understand the obvious things. Echo is just a platform.
      Quote: Olezhek
      What for? For what purpose does the president of Belarus need to meet with a certain Venediktov and cry for life?

      Good question. It is said that a well-asked question already contains half the answer. And here’s the answer:
      Quote: Olezhek
      Who is Venediktov?

      Well, very childish naivety:
      Quote: Olezhek
      Or do you need a "free vest" to cry over the "bad Putin?"
      . Why cry if there is an open bargaining? Seen in Sochi strongly pressanuli, we are waiting for the next rate hikes from the "other" side.
      1. Olezhek 25 December 2019 14: 27 New
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        Who is Venediktov?


        Well, very childish naivety:


        Negotiations were ongoing with Putin ... failed
        Lukashenko invited Venediktov ...
        You can also invite Kuklachev ...


        laughing

        Once again - who is Venediktov?
        Now, if Lukashenko could not directly work with the Kremlin ...
        But he can
        And Venediktov’s opinion is not so important for the Russians and the Kremlin
        And therefore this maneuver is very strange ...
        1. DesToeR 25 December 2019 17: 35 New
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          Quote: Olezhek
          Negotiations were ongoing with Putin ... failed

          Who didn’t succeed? Can you know what they really talked about?
          Quote: Olezhek
          Lukashenko invited Venediktov ...
          You can also invite Kuklachev ...

          You can and Kuklacheva. Especially if he will have the same audience. Venediktov will make a “broadcast” from his site specifically for the target audience. And this is far from being a "liberda" or the so-called heaped up. De facto, this interview can be seen as a statement by those in power in the West that nothing is clear with Russia and that the bidding can continue.
          Quote: Olezhek
          And Venediktov’s opinion is not so important for the Russians and the Kremlin

          This promise does not go to the Russians. This is an interview for the “curators” of this whole Venediktov party.
          Quote: Olezhek
          And therefore this maneuver is very strange ...

          Oh Olezhek, as in your articles about Belarus, you see the facts, but you cannot compare anything. And for me it’s extremely logical. Especially if you recall the recent visit of Pole S. Karchevsky to Minsk, and compare with the results of the negotiations in Sochi.
  • cniza 25 December 2019 09: 23 New
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    From a statement by the head of the Republic of Belarus to the editor-in-chief of the Ekho Moskvy radio station, Alexei Venediktov:


    I didn’t have to give such an interview, the Old Man was mistaken.
  • Naive 25 December 2019 09: 25 New
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    But he only prescribes in money ...
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    President of Belarus A. Lukashenko proposed a simple and convenient integration option! And the question is, why the Russian Federation can not be part of Belarus? Opposition in Belarus (it is mainly western). there will be nothing for the people to say. Russia joins Belarus! The people in Russia, for the most part, are in favor of an alliance with Belarus. I'm sure! The people around me are friends, all know for the union, no one objects.
    It seems to me that this is in Moscow, people in power oriented to the West are hindering the union. They just follow the instructions of the United States, Mrs. Clinton, who forbade us, the Russian Federation, to revive the USSR. If you want to know the details, go to the website and look at this topic of Mrs. Clinton's speech.
    And how not to obey Clinton, the children of many officials live and study in the USA, someone himself has real estate and a residence permit there. For more than 20 years there has been no real movement towards the union, just words, and therefore, Old Man is right.
    I wrote a letter on this issue to President Putin V.V., and things are still there. Several years have passed already! If we look to the future in order to develop and be stronger, we need a union! And Belarus and Russia! It is always better to live with friends!
  • awdrgy 25 December 2019 09: 31 New
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    And what’s normal about “Old Man” doesn’t give offense to ordinary people. He doesn’t have resources for the development of the country, but he will be. thieves quickly figure it out and we will help than we can in this "dirty" work All these dreams will not give (
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      To enter the structure of Belarus? And why, okay, "Old Man" does not give offense to ordinary people. He has no resources for the development of the country, and so will be. For a single Slavic state, a very good option


      He doesn’t have “resources,” he doesn’t have enough resources for the development of the country.
      1. awdrgy 25 December 2019 10: 13 New
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        What should I talk about, should I try it right? I’ve seen something else, having visited Belarus 2 years ago on vacation, consider that I visited the USSR only with the possibility of developing small business (almost a Chinese model) In any case, this is an “idea fix” for obvious reasons
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          Fortunately, the laws of sociology and the development of an ethnos cannot be canceled by any forces. By titanic efforts by hook or by crook these forces will delay the unification of the Slavs (for a short time if you count from today). Then all of them with such labor and sacrifices, the created balance will collapse almost instantly. suggest the option of "leaving" the Slavs from the historical scene. This is possible but you should always understand that the death of powerful ethnic groups does not happen "quiet". And our "ball" with such problems as "Yellow ustoun "and the like are too fragile. Therefore, the unification of Russia with Belarus will happen Under which flag? And does it matter for our united but divided people?
          1. Olezhek 25 December 2019 12: 16 New
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            Fortunately, the laws of sociology and the development of an ethnos cannot be canceled by any forces. By titanic efforts, by hook or by crook, these forces will delay the unification of the Slavs.


            Especially Russians and Poles in a single, union state with the capital in the hero city of Minsk drinks
            1. awdrgy 25 December 2019 12: 21 New
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              But this is already a more distant prospect. They themselves will come all thrown slandered and very few. And the capital should naturally be set up new so that no one would be offended
      2. Ingvar 72 25 December 2019 13: 05 New
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        Quote: Olezhek
        he doesn’t have enough “ideas” for the development of the country

        What is missing from us, and Olezhek?
  • Ross xnumx 25 December 2019 09: 34 New
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    Dear!
    From a statement by the head of the Republic of Belarus to the editor-in-chief of the Ekho Moskvy radio station Alexei Venediktov ...

    I got the impression that the non-state media are trying, by hook or by crook, to bring discord between Belarus and Russia. Each ruler in these countries has certain advantages and disadvantages, but this does not mean (understand me correctly) that Lukashenko is trying to "bend" the Russians in favor of their own citizens. Does he want personal gain by "bargaining" on prices and the provisions of the union state?
    If you examine the essence of the claims, then you need to look not at the Benedict or Brace, but at the bilateral meetings between Putin and Lukashenko. Show that it is there that Putin makes claims or Lukashenko becomes in a pose ... I have not seen this ...
    There are omissions, no one has canceled the claims, but to whom are the claims?
    Tell me, with a hand on your heart, will you personally “break off” from the reduction, increase in prices for hydrocarbons or agricultural products? What are you all hammering this Alexander Grigoryevich? What did he not please you personally? Or are you representatives of a neighboring country? I know here (100%) only one, but it is not here yet ...
    Let us not be likened to those bad people who build their opinions on the basis of excerpts from the "non-worthy" media and hope that in the near future the border dividing the fraternal peoples will disappear.
    As for the Belarusian youth, who are looking to the West, then in Russia there are plenty of them. Fortunately, their cries are not the opinion of the peoples of our countries ...
    hi
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      I got the impression that the non-state media are trying, by hook or by crook, to bring discord between Belarus and Russia.

      And not only you had the impression. Everything here is in plain sight, and who is the "chief editor" of these media.
      1. vitvit123 25 December 2019 11: 10 New
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        The wrong impression. It has long been clear to everyone who the union and rapprochement of the two countries to the format of one is most unprofitable!
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          Quote: vitvit123
          The wrong impression. It has long been clear to everyone who the union and rapprochement of the two countries to the format of one is most unprofitable!

          Of course, it’s harder to put pressure on a major power. This is clearly seen how, after the WWII and the collapse of 4 empires, a huge number of different small countries appeared. They are easier to manage.
    2. vitvit123 25 December 2019 11: 08 New
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      The discord between the Russian Federation brings Luke himself! Luke the first is not interested in strong friendship, nor God forbid Belarus to decide on the composition of the Russian Federation! (this can’t be avoided, by the way, it can only be done in different ways). Who pulls his tongue? It doesn’t matter to whom he said, it is important that he said it! Putin never says anything in public for Belarus or Luka! Unlike Luke!
      No one ever loves freeloaders! That is why such an attitude on our part!
      And you do not use excerpts, look at all the interviews, what is the problem? Everything is very clear there! If you do not give resources, I will select the pipe, i.e. like hoh.ly - steal!
      The opinion of the people, etc. in this situation it doesn’t matter, speak for Luke! Why say white when everyone sees that it is black?
    3. Astoria 25 December 2019 11: 31 New
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      Does he want personal gain by "bargaining" on prices and the provisions of the union state?
      Belarus buys gas at 127 and resells to its enterprises at 250-300. Zina, where is the money? Or do you think Lukashenko does not have his own cooperative "Lake" - represented by the same Shakutin and Voroby who have been reselling oil from Russia to the west for years under the guise of thinners. What kind of organization is this - the presidential sports club, which is headed by Dmitry Lukashenko and which manages Belaz sales. Etc.

      First you blinded yourself the infallible image of Lukashenko, and then the reality turned out to be slightly different laughing laughing laughing
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        Well, except for one plus, you can no longer give .. Plus !!! hi
    4. Olezhek 25 December 2019 12: 15 New
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      If you examine the essence of the claims, then you need to look not at the Benedict or Brace, but at the bilateral meetings between Putin and Lukashenko.


      Now imagine: Putin invited Venediktov, hung out the Russian flag and in a festive atmosphere would roll barrels to Lukashenko
      Oil painting ...
      1. Alexey RA 25 December 2019 14: 19 New
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        Quote: Olezhek
        Now imagine: Putin invited Venediktov, hung out the Russian flag and in a festive atmosphere would roll barrels to Lukashenko
        Oil painting ...

        No-no-no - not Venediktov, but someone from the Zmagar media. smile
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          and someone from the Zmagar media


          For example, Charter 97 laughing
          https://charter97.org/ru/news/
    5. Olezhek 25 December 2019 15: 06 New
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      I got the impression that the non-state media are trying, by hook or by crook, to bring discord between Belarus and Russia. Each ruler in these countries has certain advantages and disadvantages,


      Komrad, I will answer simply and briefly - to me in parallel to rulers, rulers and other desalination plants
      I am Russian
      In the conflict in the Donbass, Belarus supported Ukrainians (and the West) against Russians
      And what do you want from me?
      Crazy love?
      What do you propose to discuss?
      And who is making confusion there and driving a wedge?
  • Victor March 47 25 December 2019 09: 53 New
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    “It (a simple version) will be perceived in both Russia and Belarus in terms of a single state: you are joining Belarus. And what, will the Russians be against it? No. Belarusians who are outraged here (talking about the opposition, - note“ IN ") - also. Listen: Russia is part of Belarus. Why not consider this option?"

    I'm not against. See if the tiny Belorussia bursts from Russia entering it.
    Political clowns without Lukashenko are enough. You need to think before blurs.

    “Not only Russia provides some support to Belarus, but Belarus also provides a huge number of services to the Russian side.”

    A particularly useful service is the sale to almost the enemy of materials, raw materials purchased in Russia with certain benefits, and welding up loot on the resale of the Russian one.
    Selling banned Polish apples (just as an example) in Russia under the guise of their own.
    Threatening to strangle Russia with a pipe, what he said in Germany in 2017.
    It's just that we owe so much to this chairman of the collective farm, in the presidency. (There was such a play “The Tradesman in the Nobility.” Moliere. This is about him).
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      Quote: Victor March 47
      this is selling almost to the enemy materials, raw materials purchased in Russia with certain benefits, and welding the loot on the resale of the Russian.

      In 2018, trade between Russia and Ukraine amounted to $ 14, an increase of 983% ($ 951) compared to 329. wink
      1. Olezhek 25 December 2019 17: 11 New
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        In 2018, trade between Russia and Ukraine amounted to $ 14, an increase of 983% ($ 951) compared to 329.


        1 Counting bad money is not good
        2 And the US is trading with Russia, and then what?
        1. Ingvar 72 25 December 2019 20: 10 New
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          Quote: Olezhek
          1 Counting bad money is not good
          2 And the US is trading with Russia, and then what?

          Yes, you slow-thinking Olezhek. I replied to the man who hinted strongly that Belarus was selling raw materials to Ukraine.
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            Yes, you slow-thinking Olezhek. I replied to the man who hinted thickly that Belarus was selling raw materials to Ukraine


            And he sells weapons to kill Russians in the Donbass.
            Brotherly Belarusian people - he’s such a brotherly
            This is a hint, if that.
            thick.
  • Ros 56 25 December 2019 09: 55 New
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    Onion fly agaric gluttonized or grass stoned, what kind of crap is it lately?
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      And he never had an incredibly high intelligence.
      As he was a "villager", so he remained.
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    you are joining Belarus. And what, the Russians will be against? No. Belarusians who are outraged here (talking about the opposition - approx. “VO”) - too. Listen: Russia is part of Belarus. Why not consider this option?
    Man himself does not understand that the creation of a single state is a unification, and not the entry of one into the other, no matter who is there. Let him read the history of the creation of the USSR. (if the school did not study well).
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      Man himself does not understand that the creation of a single state is a unification, and not the entry of one into the other, no matter who is there.

      How do you imagine the union of an elephant and a hamster?
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        Quote: Winnie76
        How do you imagine the union of an elephant and a hamster?

        If so, then there are no options.
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          No creativity. But Lukashenko found an option. The elephant just goes into the hamster laughing laughing laughing
      2. Ingvar 72 25 December 2019 14: 25 New
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        How do you imagine the union of an elephant and a hamster?

        Timon and Pumbaa watched? wassat
  • slavaseven 25 December 2019 10: 12 New
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    Interesting interview, I advise you to fully familiarize yourself before commenting.
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      Quote: slavaseven
      Interesting interview, I advise you to fully familiarize yourself before commenting.

      There are no readers, but some writers. ,, ... I did not hear, but I condemn ... '' '
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        There are no readers, but some writers.

        What was poured. then they chew. request Egorov alone is worth it; he has been picking Belarus for years. Probably something personal.
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          The ignorance of his ignorance ...
  • 1536 25 December 2019 10: 23 New
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    Then one autistic from television agreed to the fact that Peter I, it turns out, created the Russian Empire by agreeing with Ukraine about this, and the “comrade” motivated this case by finding (!) Documents confirming such a concept in some archive. Of course, because according to the ideas of “free-thinking people”, far from the prejudices of education, the archive is a big garbage dump, where everyone who wants to find something for himself and delight with “delicacies” from this very garbage dump of his relatives digs around. But autists have their own ideas about life, science and archival studies as well. These guys are either very smart and decent people, or tend to succumb to the influence of others, and then do not wait for good. It’s good, if not vice versa, that it was Ukraine that initiated the imperial unification of the swampy Moscow principality, in addition to moving to Finland’s swamps, together with Novgorod deaf-man, under the auspices of the Greek-Latin enlightened Kiev. And thanks for that.
    This is what I mean, and the fact that Belarusians can also think of something and are already coming up with something, but a real unification will happen when, finally, in the minds of people in Belarus and Russia, the understanding that it’s better to be together than separately . And Belarus, with its enterprising, educated and decent citizens, could well become a locomotive for all of Russia.
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    you are joining Belarus.
    I’m afraid that with this option Belarus “will tear from happiness”
  • awg75 25 December 2019 10: 28 New
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    having such a friend and enemies is not necessary
  • Eddie 25 December 2019 12: 10 New
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    To take Belarus away from father’s father, let’s let him head the collective farm better!
    1. VeteranVSSSR 25 December 2019 14: 01 New
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      Select ... and share ... Otberun, when they will share, believe me, they will not remember ...
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    Like it or not, the potato Fuhrer replay the Kremlin in one wicket. Another question is what he will leave behind ... But it is unlikely that he cares.
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    After that, Lukashenko said that if Russia continues to talk about Belarus as a “parasite”, each time raising the topic of oil and gas supplies for the New Year, then “we will say: thank you, don’t! You can’t write everything in money. ”
    Thank you, of course, for thanks, but better at world prices and not for Russian loans, but at your own expense? And then an interesting alignment is obtained. Russia, for its not expensive pies, is also trying to send far away ...
  • eckons 25 December 2019 13: 53 New
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    Quote: Hazarov
    And it’s right to dare the Old Man! Bo it, if cho, it doesn’t matter how many divisions the Old Man has! The important thing is how many there will be when the Belarusian divisions approach Moscow!

    Old Man should not think about a blitzkrieg against Moscow, but about how, with his wagging backside, one would not end up in Rostov in the company of another wise friend.
  • Zampolit-m 25 December 2019 17: 28 New
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    Again, the Old Man is kicked here? Over the edge of the gas at a discount and another "Christmas present" 3 lard .. And somehow modestly all this is silent hehe
    Who benefits from pitting us with Belarus yet?
    Do not succumb to the peasants of this provocation of neoliberals and other Svidomo .. This persecution is thin already in the "our media" five years goes in waves, at intervals ..
    How they want to turn the “Maidan in Minsk” so that the sale starts with discounts and screams against us in Russia!
    Hang on Brothers Belarusians, we all understand, I hope you too! hi
  • VeteranVSSSR 25 December 2019 18: 14 New
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    Quote: Zampolit-M
    Again, the Old Man is kicked here? Over the edge of the gas at a discount and another "Christmas present" 3 lard .. And somehow modestly all this is silent hehe
    Who benefits from pitting us with Belarus yet?
    Do not succumb to the peasants of this provocation of neoliberals and other Svidomo .. This persecution is thin already in the "our media" five years goes in waves, at intervals ..
    How they want to turn the “Maidan in Minsk” so that the sale starts with discounts and screams against us in Russia!
    Hang on Brothers Belarusians, we all understand, I hope you too! hi

    Thanks for the words you need!
    It's a shame that many of you (Russians) want to put themselves next to the God-chosen, but for some reason they forget that, there are NO empty seats ''
    We do not need your Livshetsov, Abramovichs and all kinds of Millers with the Revzins ...
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    Quote: svp67
    you are joining Belarus.
    I’m afraid that with this option Belarus “will tear from happiness”

    And we will be happy when we will be joyful for our neighbor and we will be proud and rejoice in such a neighborhood. And at this hour / day, we feel sorry for you and we are sad like our rasseysi not a brother ...
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    And here I am for the referendum. Fair .
    They are Russia, block us with oil, gas, El. Energy, market around the end of September, beginning of October. Close railway connection with the east and Asia. (Belarusians want to go to Europe).
    And somewhere in the end of January, beginning of February, we are holding a referendum. When on the street -5 ... 10, and in the apartment 5..10 degrees Celsius.
    Yes, tough, but they won’t understand otherwise.
    Not a single expert wrote, but what will happen if economic ties are broken.
    Comrades Belarusians are waiting for discussions.
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      Quote: demos1111
      And here I am for the referendum. Fair .

      honest referendum after ...
      Quote: demos1111
      Russia, block us with oil, gas, El. Energy, market around the end of September, beginning of October. Close railway connection with east and Asia

      then

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      And somewhere in the end of January, beginning of February, we are holding a referendum. When on the street -5 ... 10, and in the apartment 5..10 degrees Celsius.
      Yes, tough, but they won’t understand otherwise.

      why they don’t understand, of course they will.
      They will understand that Russia is not on the way.
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      Not a single expert wrote, but what will happen if economic ties are broken.

      Well, Russian experts and not only yelled - More sanctions !!!!!
      Something is now not heard these screams.
      The track is two-way and nobody knows where it will lead, so I wrote it correctly
      Quote: VeteranVSSSR
      And we will be happy when we will be joyful for a neighbor and we will be proud and rejoice in such a neighborhood

      They added to Ukraine, crushed and crushed.
      Now, and with Belarus do you want the same rake?
      1. Olezhek 26 December 2019 10: 18 New
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        why they don’t understand, of course they will.
        They will understand that Russia is not on the way.

        Well, Russian experts and not only yelled - More sanctions !!!!!
        Something is not heard now


        It's simple - stop feeding Russophobia.
    2. Olezhek 26 December 2019 10: 17 New
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      And somewhere in the end of January, beginning of February, we are holding a referendum. When on the street -5 ... 10, and in the apartment 5..10 degrees Celsius


      You are very seriously mistaken
      For them, the economy is separate
      Politics - Separately
      No need to drive anyone anywhere
      Just a border, visas, market prices.
      And the maximum respect for state sovereignty of the Republic of Belarus.