The American press said that US cities are not ready for a nuclear war

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Cities in the United States are not prepared for nuclear war. Such a strange message follows from a new article by Business Insider.

There is no jurisdiction in America where anyone has an adequate nuclear detonation plan.

- told the publication Irwin Redlener, an expert on public health at Columbia University, specializing in disaster preparedness.



The US Federal Emergency Management Agency has some simple tips for these circumstances: go inside the building, not get out and stay in touch.

But Redlener believes that common federal rules are not enough, and even the six most likely targets for a nuclear attack - New York, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Washington - will not be ready for such a development. These cities will be especially at risk because they have long become one of the largest and most populous in the country. These megacities are also the focus of critical infrastructure elements: power plants, financial centers, government agencies.

In the final part of the article, it is noted that even an explosion of a “Hiroshima” type charge in any American city will have disastrous consequences.

In addition, the publication Business Insider does not reflect the fact that it is difficult to imagine a country or community that can be prepared for such a disaster. It doesn’t matter in America or elsewhere.
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  1. +20
    24 December 2019 17: 57
    It’s a shame, gentlemen, Americans, we must prepare. Digging dugouts, pouring them with concrete, storing pasta cartridges there ... And not eating burgers, drinking Coca-Cola ....
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    2. +6
      24 December 2019 18: 07
      Cities in the United States are not prepared for nuclear war. Such a strange message follows from a new article by Business Insider.
      -
      - melting temperature of asphalt is low. EVERYTHING GO TO OTHER VARIETIES OF BITUMEN let them earn
      1. +11
        24 December 2019 18: 17
        What an Amazing - Amazing Finding! No wonder American journalists get their salaries! This is the direct path to the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism! good wassat wassat wassat
        1. +3
          24 December 2019 18: 42
          Quote: Hunter 2
          What an Amazing - Amazing Finding! No wonder American journalists get their salaries! This is the direct path to the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism! good wassat wassat wassat

          What a mess! sad And they scientifically proved that in Russian, doctor's sausage does not cure, but amateur does not like it! what Yankees, pour yourself concrete on the tonsils and save yourself from nuclear weapons! And the whole world will breathe calmly! Yes
    3. +5
      24 December 2019 18: 23
      Quote: faterdom
      It’s a shame, gentlemen, Americans, we must prepare. Digging dugouts, pouring them with concrete, storing pasta cartridges there ... And not eating burgers, drinking Coca-Cola ....
      As always, they lie and become pissed. Under the Chinese mow. Each house has a bunker in case of a nuclear warhead with a 3-year supply. Then, after 3 years, the pale-faced worms crawl out to the surface, but it turns out that they misunderstood the joke. request
      1. +4
        24 December 2019 19: 06
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Each house has a bunker in case of a nuclear warhead with a 3-year supply

        crawl out and die happy that they survived a nuclear strike
      2. +6
        24 December 2019 19: 10
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        As always, they lie and become pissed.

        For these experts, even the initial message is incorrect:
        even a blast Hiroshima type charge in any American city will be disastrous.
        High-area charges are intended for area targets ... starting from 100Kt and up to the megaton class ...
        So, if it arrives, then within a radius of 50 km there will be a zone of continuous destruction ...
        What tips are like:
        There are some simple tips for these circumstances: to go inside the building, not to get out and stay in touch.
        can talk! Especially touched - "stay in touch!" - and cell towers, they themselves will grow like r / a mushrooms after precipitation !?
        And honestly, to write that the big BOO dietary supplement is the end of the story, they lack the spirit ... and this is the case with the US Federal Emergency Management Agency ...
        And this creates the illusion of salvation from the retaliatory strike ...
        But in fact, this is what awaits them:



        1. +6
          24 December 2019 20: 11
          Photo left - within a radius of 72 km there will be a zone solid destruction of buildings and structures laughing

          In essence, the American press is not aware of the problem.

          In megacities, the main protective structure is the underground underground - temporary, of course: after dust settles, the surviving population needs to be relocated to the countryside into permanent protective structures equipped with air / water filters and stocked with food supplies for several years (for the half-life of short-lived isotopes). Seeds of agricultural plants, tools, machines, supplies, small arms and cold weapons, instructions, textbooks, etc. should also be stored in permanent shelters.

          Specifically, in the United States, there is now a construction boom in the creation of family shelters in rural areas on the territory of cottage villages and ranches. The same thing happens in Australia and New Zealand, where American millionaires and billionaires build family shelters.

          It can be assumed that those American citizens who can get to underground metro stations within 30-40 minutes after the start of TMV and then move to family shelters in the countryside will survive a strike by Russian ICBMs and SLBMs. In the event of a strike by the Russian NPA Poseidon (coastal metropolitan areas) and the Zircon missile launcher (capital Washington, cities near naval bases) with a submarine / approach time of 5-6 minutes, the survivors will be an order of magnitude less.

          In the most unfavorable case (several tens of 100-Mtn explosions of the Poseidon nuclear warhead in the coastal zone with the wind inland) the entire territory of North America will become unsuitable for living and agricultural activities for several thousand years due to the fallout of long-lived isotopes from the reaction division of the third stages of warhead. Then, within one or two generations, only those who managed to leave for Australia and New Zealand will survive.

          Of course, provided that the Russian Burevestniki missiles with three-stage megaton warheads do not arrive there am
          1. +2
            25 December 2019 05: 10
            I wonder how you plan to "get from the subway in a ruined city to a family refuge in the countryside?" This is clearly an unrealistic scenario .. the area of ​​infection will not allow people to come to the surface ..
            1. +1
              25 December 2019 08: 33
              As taught - in a gas mask and overalls of chemical protection. In extreme cases - in a filtering mask and outerwear to exclude / minimize skin contact with radioactive dust (which should then be washed off).

              The fission products of the third stage of the thermonuclear charge and soil particles with induced radioactivity fonite at a small distance (no more than a few centimeters), because the dust is deposited on the skin and lungs.

              In the long run, radionuclides entering the body with water and foodstuffs harvested on the surface during agriculture are dangerous.
              1. +1
                25 December 2019 08: 49
                I was taught that way too ..) The problem is that nowadays schools, enterprises and state institutions have gas masks and OZK .. according to the staffing table .. And you can hardly find them at metro stations .. They will stay at the extreme, plastic bags on the legs, a gauze mask and a cape from the same plastic bag .. Well, for 400 meters such protection may be enough.))) There is no big sense in this anyway. Those who survive in the cities break not into villages, but into the ruins of the nearest supermarkets and weapons stores ... And then they will try to get to villages and "clean" places ..
                1. 0
                  25 December 2019 09: 15
                  Quote: Dikson
                  those who survive in cities do not break into villages, but into the ruins of nearby supermarkets and weapons stores

                  But do I dispute the transit route from the city to the countryside?

                  Adjusted for the fact that part of the townspeople already have their own cellars and shelters in rural areas with food supplies and hunting weapons bully
                2. 0
                  25 December 2019 21: 56
                  You won’t believe, in one of our schools in the city, gas masks (3500pcs) were preserved, ventilation in the bomb shelter was working, of course a small mess (everything in the dust and frame beds were rusted). Kuma (supply manager) says, let him lie, doesn't ask for food (although according to the documents there is no bomb shelter, the entire materiel has been decommissioned). By analogy with the abandoned airfield and Tushka landed on it, I think we have not only fools in the country for a hundred years.
                  1. 0
                    26 December 2019 14: 39
                    This is the normal approach of people who remember and think about people living nearby .. the USSR cared for the population, no matter how it is presented now .. In our city, too, no one has canceled the rules of civil defense .. and sirens alerts are regularly checked once a month .. But this is not the rule, but rather an exception .. For the specificity of the city involves these events, as well as the maintenance of shelters in good condition ... Personally, I like it. Because even in the event of a serious banal fire at the enterprise, full-time personal protective equipment can save the lives of people .. factory workers, children at school .. office workers, in the end ..
                    1. 0
                      27 December 2019 15: 03
                      At the expense of the sirens, "annoying", first the siren, then "the citizens are being checked ......" why not vice versa.
    4. +2
      24 December 2019 19: 21
      Quote: faterdom
      It’s a shame, gentlemen, Americans, we must prepare. Digging dugouts, pouring them with concrete, storing pasta cartridges there ... And not eating burgers, drinking Coca-Cola ....

      C'mon ... they already set up the bunker ... we never dreamed of! laughing
    5. +5
      24 December 2019 19: 32
      - Where to escape in case of an atomic attack?
      - Wrap yourself in a white sheet and slowly crawl towards the cemetery.
      - Why slowly?
      - In order not to create panic.
      Apparently experiencing a shortage of white sheets.
    6. +4
      24 December 2019 21: 31
      In fact, there are no cities on the ground ready for nuclear bombing, and the time when you could hide a large number of inhabitants in the metro ended in the 45th.
      Again, how do people select, whom to save by giving the entrance to the metro, and whom to drive out into the street? Discrimination, however.
      [/ quote] There is no jurisdiction in America where at least someone has an adequate plan for nuclear detonation [quote]

      Maybe someone will explain what a "nuclear detonation" is in a modern city? request
    7. +2
      25 December 2019 02: 38
      Quote: faterdom
      It’s a shame, gentlemen, Americans, we must prepare. Digging dugouts, pouring them with concrete, storing pasta cartridges there ... And not eating burgers, drinking Coca-Cola ....



      I will not say for the whole of America, everything is ready for me:

    8. +2
      25 December 2019 04: 14
      Pfe
      Quote: faterdom
      Dig dugouts, pour them with concrete
      some half measures, immediately pour concrete cities! Four meters!
  2. +10
    24 December 2019 17: 58
    The American press said that US cities are not ready for a nuclear war


    And who has the ready? belay
    1. +4
      24 December 2019 18: 04
      Business Insider does not reflect the fact that it’s difficult to even imagine a country or community that could be prepared for such a disaster. It doesn’t matter in America or elsewhere.
      I absolutely agree.
      1. +16
        24 December 2019 18: 06
        The trouble is different, a generation has grown up that believes that you can be prepared for a nuclear war.
    2. +7
      24 December 2019 18: 05
      Quote: cniza
      The American press said that US cities are not ready for a nuclear war


      And who has the ready? belay

      If you discuss every nonsense from the media, then you can go crazy
      1. +2
        24 December 2019 18: 12
        This is so, but on V.O. then what to call it?
        1. +2
          24 December 2019 19: 24
          Quote: cniza
          This is so, but on V.O. then what to call it?

          To call it ...
          Rating!
      2. +4
        24 December 2019 19: 00
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        If you discuss every nonsense from the media, then you can go crazy

        Plain nonsense is too expensive to publish. Most likely, this is a poorly disguised call for a redistribution of the budget pie in favor of FEMA and construction companies.

        In general, there is a good old way of protection against nuclear weapons arr. 1952 - lie down and take cover: smile
      3. +2
        24 December 2019 19: 23
        If you discuss every nonsense from the media, then you can go crazy

        Do not believe, do not be afraid .... wink
        1. +7
          24 December 2019 22: 06
          Quote: Masha
          Do not believe, do not be afraid ....

          ... lie down and take cover hi
          1. +4
            24 December 2019 22: 38
            Quote: Terenin
            Quote: Masha
            Do not believe, do not be afraid ....

            ... lie down and take cover hi

            A white sheet .... crying
            So everyone has a way there?
    3. +2
      24 December 2019 18: 23
      Cockroaches with viruses will remain in our "partners".
    4. -1
      24 December 2019 19: 43
      And who has the ready?


      The Swedes and the Finns. For the entire population and pups for 10 years.

      1. +3
        24 December 2019 19: 46
        A flag in their hands, what will they do in 10 years if they do not go wild?
        1. +2
          24 December 2019 19: 46
          A flag in their hands, what will they do in 10 years if they do not go wild?


          They will come out and own the planet.
          1. +1
            24 December 2019 20: 12
            You are a great optimist, and if only a dead land and nothing more?
          2. 0
            24 December 2019 20: 16
            Quote: Arzt
            They will come out and own the planet.

            On foot? Without gas, electricity, internet and shops?
            1. 0
              24 December 2019 20: 39
              On foot? Without gas, electricity, internet and shops?


              Everything is there and even more. We taught them great in 1939.

          3. +2
            24 December 2019 20: 17
            They will come out and own the planet.

            So sure? What do they get out to own something? belay
            Sarcophagus! sad
        2. 0
          24 December 2019 21: 15
          Quote: cniza
          What will they do in 10 years if they do not go wild?

          Fight off cannibals from the Baltic.
          1. -2
            24 December 2019 21: 44
            Quote: Gray Brother
            cannibals from the Baltic

            Horse - whom? From when - where? laughing
    5. +5
      25 December 2019 00: 34
      Welcome hi
      And who has the ready?

      I got a grasp of the comments .. And in the majority there is no mention of the fact that civil defense (civil defense as a science) did not exist in the states as such. In the Union, however, cities were built in accordance with the requirements of civil defense. I'm not talking about enterprises. There, in general (especially on large ones), all activities and the production process were consistent with GO plans. Starting from fire reservoirs and the number of windows in the warehouse to standby remote capacities.
      We still had cities more or less ready for a nuclear strike. Take the building plan of old Moscow - the streets are wide, there are yards, the distance from the houses with the calculation of their collapse. Facade paint and that light shades. One day, I delved into the question of duty ... service or something .. I was pleasantly struck by the global approach. And take a look at New York .... The center is proud - one mass grave in the explosion of warheads at an altitude of 500 m .... And the suburbs? Are there many stone houses? Not that ... Drywall, plywood .... There are cellars, but not everyone. And so on ... the majority of the population does not know what to do if the lights are turned off (I exaggerate of course), but there are some ... And we still have posters in mind .. Old Soviet ones .... What to do when using nuclear weapons what to do when applying chemicals ... Etc.
      States are really NOT READY for the arrival of special warheads. This is neither news nor secret.
      Thanks to the legacy of the Union, we still have chances. Yes, not at all. But those who are interested not only in instagram and the latest fashion trends and at least somehow think the necessary part of the body - will survive.
      1. +5
        25 December 2019 06: 55
        Quote: KOT BYUN
        States are really NOT READY for the arrival of special warheads.

        They are brought up in the spirit of "America is an uberalles", therefore, to the recent poll whether to bomb Russia with the greatest number of answers "Yes", but the second question "And if the Russians are us?" puts their zombie program into a stupor.
        Those who dig their own shelters are no different from the rest, just the degree of stupor from the second question has stepped over from forethought to paranoia.
      2. +3
        25 December 2019 09: 16
        Greetings! hi yes, we still have the rudiments of a survival school, but the weapons became much more destructive, not even nuclear, and those B.U. by no means everyone can resist.
  3. -1
    24 December 2019 18: 01
    Let them call at least one locality on Earth, ready for a nuclear war. Yes, individual instances such as apparatchiks or treble can and will stretch out in underground bunkers for two - three years ... And then what ?! Painful death?
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      1. +2
        24 December 2019 18: 06
        Well, of course, they have the same sanctions from Hell.
      2. -1
        24 December 2019 19: 00
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Let them call at least one locality on Earth, ready for a nuclear war. Yes, individual instances such as apparatchiks or treble can and will stretch out in underground bunkers for two - three years ... And then what ?! Painful death?

        The main thing is to be mentally prepared .. here our president is mentally prepared .. we are in paradise .. they are in hell ..

        laughing good drinks Ha ha ha !!! Indeed. And you might think Russian cities are ready for war. G.O. so developed. So developed. wassat It remains really about "we, in heaven .. they are in hell"
    2. +4
      24 December 2019 19: 25
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Let them call at least one locality on Earth, ready for a nuclear war. Yes, individual instances such as apparatchiks or treble can and will stretch out in underground bunkers for two - three years ... And then what ?! Painful death?

      Why? The radiation background will be normal, a happy life at the level of the end of the 17th century))
    3. +2
      25 December 2019 10: 28
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Let them call at least one locality on Earth, ready for a nuclear war.

      Zheleznogorsk. smile
  4. +5
    24 December 2019 18: 10
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Let them call at least one locality on Earth, ready for a nuclear war. Yes, individual instances such as apparatchiks or treble can and will stretch out in underground bunkers for two - three years ... And then what ?! Painful death?

    This is not the point at all. And the fact that someone decided that he is exceptional, that he is always right, and that he is invulnerable! And that is why it is for Americans that at least glimpses of consciousness of how things are in fact are extremely important and useful. At least for the sanity of the "political class", albeit through the fifth point - through the voters.
    And if they also begin to prepare, it’s generally beauty: it’s a constant neurosis, costs are useless (in fact), and cardiovascular, interspersed with psychiatric ...
    You must pay for hegemony, and they will pay!
  5. +4
    24 December 2019 18: 18
    Cities in the United States are not prepared for nuclear war.
    ... And if they also throw advertisements ... What would they rush to build .. Well, how much dough will be cut by construction companies ... Although it was like, I remember somehow on the Union TV they showed a cut of frames from the 50s and 60s x how Americans and Europeans build bunkers so that they can be buried from a nuclear war ...
    1. +1
      24 December 2019 22: 36
      Quote: parusnik
      even on Union TV, they showed a cut of frames from the 50s and 60s, how Americans and Europeans build bunkers so that they would be buried from a nuclear war ...

      But what is there allied ... The mattresses themselves were even removed from the c / f about this - "Explosion from the past", a sort of
      cinematography with a flat mattress humor. Yes
  6. +4
    24 December 2019 18: 18
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Let them call at least one locality on Earth, ready for a nuclear war.

    Such does not exist in nature. Even in Soviet times, when it came to civil defense, it was said that events on this topic could save an additional number of people. But never talked about that someone is ready for this.
    Another article ABOUT ANYTHING
    1. 0
      24 December 2019 19: 10
      But never talked about that someone is ready for this.

      You are right Vladimir. How many I did not study these plans back in the USSR it was not to say that it was profanation but a dead poultice. Although the MSU bomb shelter was impressive. laughing
      And now, under my office, the bomb shelter is fine laughing
      1. -1
        24 December 2019 21: 41
        You are right Vladimir. How many I did not study these plans back in the USSR it was not to say that it was profanation but a dead poultice.


        It depends on what plans. wassat wassat

    2. 0
      24 December 2019 20: 50
      Such does not exist in nature.


      Exist.

      1. +1
        25 December 2019 10: 34
        Quote: Arzt
        Exist.

        Mount Cheyenne is still not a settlement, but a protected KP NORAD.
        And here we have the mining and chemical plant in the rock (and the city is nearby):
  7. 0
    24 December 2019 18: 22
    Cities in the United States are not prepared for nuclear war. Such a strange message follows from a new article by Business Insider.

    You might think that somewhere especially ready for this ???
    1. 0
      24 December 2019 18: 35
      Well do not tell. I have a defense type headquarters under my house in the past. The diesel generator is, telephone, water already running. The door is really hard to open - on the hand wheel.
      1. +3
        24 December 2019 18: 40
        This is a "burp of the nightmarish Soviet past" !!! - this is newfangled, but in fact, the Soviet leadership took care of the citizens as best they could!
    2. +1
      24 December 2019 20: 00
      You might think that somewhere especially ready for this ???


      Our elite is ready. They will be saved and will own the planet.
      1. +3
        24 December 2019 20: 21
        Every elite has tuned itself into a hole. And to own what they will, then, it is completely unknown until, I hope, it will not reach verification.
        1. -2
          24 December 2019 20: 46
          Every elite has tuned itself into a hole. And to own what they will, then, it is completely unknown until, I hope, it will not reach verification.


          These are not burrows, these are cities. Their whole planet will be. All resources. They are ready.

          1. 0
            24 December 2019 21: 01
            Yes, even the palaces. This is not a fairy tale, the reality is much different from all kinds of fantasies.
            1. -1
              24 December 2019 21: 08
              This is not a fairy tale, the reality is much different from all kinds of fantasies.


              Here is the reality. IT began to be built in 1952.

              1. +1
                24 December 2019 21: 33
                What does it have to do with it. What is built for powerful and wealthy underground shelters, to stock supplies there, is understandable. This does not change the situation when / if a global nuclear conflict takes place, there will probably be nothing to own something other than the ones who are too weak. Why do we need a planet if it will be infected completely and permanently.
              2. +1
                24 December 2019 22: 38
                Quote: Arzt
                Here is the reality.

                laughing laughing laughing The wrong word is the most objective given to us in sensation. fellow
  8. 0
    24 December 2019 18: 24
    "Mobile bunkers in the United States are in use. Anyone who has at least ten thousand tanks in their" stash is already building at a run. They are very much afraid of the North Bear.
    1. -2
      24 December 2019 18: 27
      Do they need them if all the children and families of the government of their potential adversary live, study and work with them?
  9. 0
    24 December 2019 18: 26
    Moreover Yellowstone volcano too)
  10. +2
    24 December 2019 18: 26
    I wonder what city is ready for a nuclear attack?
  11. -3
    24 December 2019 18: 29
    Morons, they have nowhere to put money.
    They have the best air defense system in the world against the strike of the main enemy, since all the families of his government live, study and work with them
    1. +1
      24 December 2019 18: 36
      Do they need them if all the children and families of the government of their potential adversary live, study and work with them?

      They have the best air defense system in the world against the strike of the main enemy, since all the families of his government live, study and work with them

      All the same bot .....
      I thought just someone raised the old manual, but even the most stupid troll will not write TWO comments in a row with the same meaning.
      1. -3
        24 December 2019 18: 46
        Damn it, I didn’t even know, but you are a professional in this matter, do you pay a lot?
        I look and the nickname is under your number, like a star of a nebula, escapes are over or you have 500 of them
        1. +1
          24 December 2019 19: 06
          naschivaniya over or you have them pieces 500

          You don’t understand, such a code has not yet been written belay
          And yes I am a professional programmer laughing if you had been here for a week or so, you probably would have known that.
      2. +3
        24 December 2019 18: 55
        No, not a bot, bots write competently.
        1. 0
          24 December 2019 19: 04
          No, not a bot, bots write competently.

          Ha lag behind life, you can download the dictionary of errors, you can at least surzhik. laughing
  12. +3
    24 December 2019 18: 50
    Honestly gentlemen. The town of Primorsky is also categorically not ready for an atomic strike. Civil defense services have long lost their competencies. The location of the bomb shelter is not personally known to me. Those. known at the factory. But most likely they have been busted for a long time and have fallen into disrepair. In due time there, in theory, up to several thousand people could take refuge. Earlier in my youth, there were some exercises with howling sirens and turning off the lights in the village. It was cool and interesting.
    Now, apparently, with a nuclear strike, a copper basin will cover everything. Maybe it's for the best. So that there would be no rush then, run to look for a daughter in the atomic funnel.
  13. +4
    24 December 2019 18: 57
    Quote: Fedorov
    Well do not tell. I have a defense type headquarters under my house in the past. The diesel generator is, telephone, water already running. The door is really hard to open - on the hand wheel.

    Not yet stolen? At school, we were also taken to a bomb shelter under the school. The year before last was the 45th anniversary of graduation. So from this bomb shelter and no trace. Some premises necessary for the school ...
  14. 0
    24 December 2019 19: 03
    why aren’t you ready ?!
    hand out sheets and a traffic plan to the nearest cemetery, hi to wrap yourself in a sheet and slowly crawl into the cemetery
  15. +2
    24 December 2019 19: 05
    Quote: Petrol cutter
    Honestly gentlemen. The town of Primorsky is also categorically not ready for an atomic strike. Civil defense services have long lost their competencies. The location of the bomb shelter is not personally known to me. Those. known at the factory. But most likely they have been busted for a long time and have fallen into disrepair. In due time there, in theory, up to several thousand people could take refuge. Earlier in my youth, there were some exercises with howling sirens and turning off the lights in the village. It was cool and interesting.
    Now, apparently, with a nuclear strike, a copper basin will cover everything. Maybe it's for the best. So that there would be no rush then, run to look for a daughter in the atomic funnel.

    And so practically everywhere, Vitaly. This is even a big plus that bomb shelters have survived at the plant, albeit ruined. But sometimes the factories have not survived. I don’t know such places in the city either. And exercises in the city are periodically arranged, but this is more a test of the operation of sirens, and not an exercise. For 9 or 10 years in my organization I was the leader of a freelance fire fighting team. As a leader, EMNIP underwent retraining every 3 years. True, only one of these retraining was meaningful. And everything else is a talking shop. The course management generally tried not to answer specific questions. So if, God forbid, something happens (I'm not talking about a man-made disaster), then the consequences of such a blow to the city will not be just catastrophic. It will be "the end of the world"
    1. +1
      24 December 2019 19: 11
      Quote: Old26
      then the consequences of such a blow to the city will not only be disastrous. It will be "the end of the world"

      it will be the end even with shelters, even without
    2. +5
      24 December 2019 19: 51
      Yes. Right now, I asked my daughter (while writing) - do you know where the bomb shelter is in your school? Did someone tell you about this? No person answers. I myself studied at this school and honestly I don’t remember if there is anything there or not. It seems like a certain basement had a place to be ...
      1. +2
        24 December 2019 21: 23
        And, my maternal grandfather, in the 70s he worked at the PMK (Mobile Mechanized Column, mobile enterprise by the way), Deputy Head of the PMK for civil defense. Air and bullets to them, we were always in abundance. Oh, times ...
        Bomb shelters were in many buildings: schools, houses of culture. And in the military town was abandoned. And, the KP of our regiment had all the signs of refuge, but on one side it didn’t have a wall, there were kungs with automated control systems :)
  16. +4
    24 December 2019 19: 13
    What nonsense, such a name, you might think that somewhere they are ready.
  17. +4
    24 December 2019 19: 15
    Quote: Barmaleyka
    why aren’t you ready ?!
    hand out sheets and a traffic plan to the nearest cemetery, hi to wrap yourself in a sheet and slowly crawl into the cemetery

    I have to the nearest (inactive) a dozen kilometers. And to the acting one in general 25. You get crawled laughing
    1. 0
      24 December 2019 19: 17
      just as you crawl ...
      I’m worse I still have to expect in the cemetery I have it very close
  18. +3
    24 December 2019 19: 17
    Quote: bk316
    But never talked about that someone is ready for this.

    You are right Vladimir. How many I did not study these plans back in the USSR it was not to say that it was profanation but a dead poultice. Although the MSU bomb shelter was impressive. laughing
    And now, under my office, the bomb shelter is fine laughing

    Now this, the namesake, is even more profanity. Huge plans, but they will not be physically realized
    1. +2
      24 December 2019 20: 04
      Huge plans, but they will not be physically realized

      You’ve even seen some plans, but I’m just mounting tires, junk warehouses and parking lots at the bomb shelters. I have a daughter in a five-minute walk 4 FOUR bomb shelters reprofiled.
      One was simply gorgeous here photo.

      The tablet is still in the center "object of GO"
  19. +4
    24 December 2019 19: 19
    Quote: Barmaleyka
    it will be the end even with shelters, even without

    Who is lucky, namesake. But basically you are right. The city will cease to exist. Like its inhabitants. Evacuated or not - no difference
    1. -2
      24 December 2019 19: 42
      and the village will die, maybe a little later, but ...
      in the 50s and 60s there was still a chance that at the expense of the rural population they would have emerged, but now we’ll die all plus or minus a year
    2. +4
      24 December 2019 21: 25
      The devil knows. I studied from books - "Everyone should know and be able to do this"
      Very informative literature had to be said. I think the people who printed these brochures were not very stupid.
      Chemistry and bacteriology, as I understand it, can still be left alone (who knows? ....) But for protection when using nuclear weapons, I think it’s not harmful to everyone to refresh their memory. Well, and who does not know, read. Because the articles on this site very transparently hint about an imminent and inevitable nuclear war.
  20. +3
    24 December 2019 19: 21
    Swiss law has to have a bomb shelter in every home
    1. 0
      24 December 2019 19: 46
      Well there is a bomb shelter and what ?!
      running out of food, water, medicine
      what's next?
      1. +4
        24 December 2019 19: 56
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        Well there is a bomb shelter and what ?!
        running out of food, water, medicine
        what's next?

        In Switzerland, a lot of underground reservoirs, many valleys between the mountains, the pharmaceutical industry is removed from the cities due to the high cost, and only Bern, Geneva and Zurich will attack. Their problem will be to beat off a bunch of refugees from Italy, France and Germany. )))
        1. 0
          24 December 2019 20: 46
          Quote: Krasnodar
          pharmaceutical industry removed from cities due to high cost

          Well, yes, yes, they have electricity on magical rays, raw materials in warehouses like a fool shag, and they feed on the holy spirit.
          You are aware that the warehouses of European enterprises are built on the basis of TWO hours of battery life, and then everything needs to be taken away, etc.
          1. +3
            24 December 2019 20: 55
            Pay a visit to Switzerland in the summer - you will see and understand everything yourself
            1. 0
              24 December 2019 22: 53
              what do i understand?
              once again the raw materials will end in warehouses, there WILL NOT be electricity, the cars will stand up without fuel, there will be nothing to eat, THE CURTAIN !!!!
              although central and southern Africa may survive, it will quickly return to its natural state, perhaps Australia, and South America, partly our Siberia, but in any case, civilization will at best be cast back many centuries
              1. +3
                24 December 2019 22: 58
                1) Yes
                2) Africa, some countries in Asia, New Zealand, Latin America
                3) Australia will receive - Amer bases, logistics centers
                4) Siberia - I do not know. Big cities will be destroyed
                5) Even as it will be dropped!
                And the Swiss will live on solar panels! )))
                1. 0
                  24 December 2019 23: 02
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  some countries of Asia

                  which are secret?
                  Southeast Asia will not be, Central Asia is the same, the entire Middle East, India, Pakistan are all the strike zones
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  And the Swiss will live on solar panels! )))

                  did you study physics at school?
                  What is EMP heard?
                  I'm already silent that solar panels can not be taken at the click
                  besides that again you eat in switzerland what will happen ?!
                  industry will rise a maximum in a month ALL
                  1. +3
                    24 December 2019 23: 10
                    1) Well, maybe they made reserves of solar batteries by hiding them in mountain bunkers - where they are not accessible by EMP fellow laughing
                    2) To eat - they will survive in uncharged zones (and there are a lot of isolated zones like Interleuken) chickens and cows, alpine meadows will remain - and everyone will eat fondue. True, the trouble with chocolate will be - no cocoa is grown.
                    3) Vietnam, Thailand, Laos.
                    4) In the Middle East, they will hit only in Turkey. Perhaps in Iran, the question is, why
                    1. 0
                      24 December 2019 23: 16
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      am where they are not available EMR

                      please forgive the transformers on the surface, and the electronics?
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      3) Vietnam, Thailand, Laos.

                      they will get from blows to Japan, China and Korea, again, at best, primitive villages in the jungle living in subsistence farming will be preserved
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      4) In the Middle East, they will hit only in Turkey.

                      in the Middle East, everyone will get it from the Jews and Iranians;
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Perhaps in Iran, the question is, why

                      just by the noise everyone will begin to wet each other, at least out of fear that the neighbor will hit first
                      1. +3
                        24 December 2019 23: 27
                        1) I agree, everything will fly on the surface. Although, I think that no one will attack the Swiss.
                        2) I do not think that in addition to radiation, they will get a couple
                        Well, maybe EMR in the areas bordering China will disable the couple
                        3) In BV, at the first stage, everyone will sit quietly, like mice. In Israel, a large American radar may be hit. And then yes, military alliances will begin and a large mochilo - but not nuclear - nuclear weapons are available only to Jews and, perhaps, in small quantities to Persians
                      2. -1
                        24 December 2019 23: 34
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Although, I think that no one will attack the Swiss.

                        they will get walking from air explosions
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Nuclear weapons are available only to Jews and, perhaps, in insignificant amounts to Persians

                        for bw this over the ears
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        2) I do not think that in addition to radiation, they will get a couple

                        this will be enough, in addition, if it covers the storage areas of the BWA, in short, for all the crants for us all
                      3. +3
                        24 December 2019 23: 56
                        1) It is quite possible, mainly from EMR - if they hit Essen and Milan.
                        2) In BV - if Israel joined the Saudis against Iran, then it is quite possible. Ayatollahs themselves will not attack Israel - they will not destroy Jewish nuclear weapons in any situation, and who needs to lower their country because of the Jewish response to the level of Afghanistan - who needs it?
                        3) I am not an expert, but it seems to me that when they get into the storage areas of the BWA, they will simply burn out, they will not have time to activate
                        They are usually stored in bunkers, a targeted strike will destroy them, a common air strike will not harm them.
    2. 0
      24 December 2019 19: 52
      In Krasnodar, building is a house on a house. Have you ever seen a bomb shelter there? Are there any in shopping centers? Where will the crowd from the "Gallery", from the "Red Square" run to hide?
      1. +3
        24 December 2019 20: 56
        Quote: 7,62x54
        In Krasnodar, building is a house on a house. Have you ever seen a bomb shelter there? Are there any in shopping centers? Where will the crowd from the "Gallery", from the "Red Square" run to hide?

        On the minus one))
    3. +1
      24 December 2019 19: 52
      Swiss law has to have a bomb shelter in every home

      Meaning? How long is this 3 days a week? It’s not even about food and water, I’ll tell you a secret I’ll have enough for a month or two and everything is underground. The question is that with energy running out of electricity will have to get out here and die ....
      1. +3
        24 December 2019 20: 57
        In a month, the background radiation will return to normal.
  21. 0
    24 December 2019 19: 41
    The US Federal Emergency Management Agency has some simple tips for these circumstances: go inside the building, not get out and stay in touch.

    It’s necessary to dig graves less wassat , well, actually, it’s worth the exceptional nation, in the person of the USA to think before giving the order and pressing the button am
    1. 0
      24 December 2019 19: 47
      Quote: Fantazer911
      don't get out and stay in touch

      the funniest thing, but can you find out with what help to stay in touch? !!!!
      1. +4
        24 December 2019 19: 54
        the funniest thing, but can you find out with what help to stay in touch? !!!!

        I am sure that these freaks think with the help of iPhones.
        For them, the smartphone is magic - it was bought and it just works (THEY READ THIS IN ADVERTISING BOUGHT AND THE TRUTH WORKS)
        1. -1
          24 December 2019 20: 47
          Well, only if the magic !!
  22. -1
    24 December 2019 19: 48
    - What are you threatening us with?
    - no, it's me showing how a grasshopper jumps into flour ...
  23. 0
    24 December 2019 20: 00
    Moscow is definitely not ready.
  24. +3
    24 December 2019 20: 44
    Quote: 7,62x54
    In Krasnodar, development is a house on a house.

    In many cities, such buildings. We have a new microdistrict "Perspective" in Stavropol. building - 14-17 floors. What kind of bomb shelters are there when they stand so tightly that in the wind (and they are almost always in Stavropol) you feel on such streets as in a wind tunnel
  25. +3
    24 December 2019 20: 55
    Quote: Arzt
    Exist.

    The fact that Mount Cheyenne is not a city with a population. We also have such places ...
  26. 0
    24 December 2019 21: 35
    Indeed, no country in the world is ready for a nuclear war. Even in Israel, which is under the possible danger of a nuclear strike and where there are several battalions of rear forces, periodically conducting exercises to eliminate the attack using WMD, there are two full-fledged bomb shelters with protection from a nuclear explosion and miscalculated.
    1. +3
      24 December 2019 22: 04
      - 2nd floor Ichilov - and even that is not relevant, because intellectually, the epicenter will be a ground nuclear explosion in the area of ​​the General Staff.
      1. 0
        24 December 2019 22: 09
        Four underground floors in Adas Ein Karem, a railway station in Jerusalem, an underground parking lot at the Post Office .... But still not enough.
        1. +3
          24 December 2019 22: 38
          I don’t think that someone will strike at Jerusalem, and if it does, then Ein Karem is protected by location. (I'm talking about the hospital). And so - yes, extremely few. Kicking to the blast - and Shma Israel laughing
          1. 0
            24 December 2019 23: 47
            For Muslims, Jerusalem is not a holy place (despite their loud statements), Jerusalem is not even mentioned in the Qur'an. In addition, many Jerusalem areas are protected from most of the factors of a nuclear explosion (flash, blast wave, alpha radiation). Our city is mountainous
            1. +3
              25 December 2019 00: 00
              Watching where they hit
              The epicenter in the Knesset - this is flying Kiryat - Yovel, all of Rahavia with Telavia, Talpiot, Mosheva Germanit
              All sorts of Neve Yakov, Mevasereti, Kurdish district opposite wink and Pisgat Zeyev will remain, together with part of Ramot)) Jabel Mukabar, Tsur Baher and Sylvan will not suffer until Ras al-Amud. Then the radiation will settle there
              1. +1
                25 December 2019 07: 30
                It depends on the height of the detonation and the power of the charge, in fact, but my house in Kiryat Yovel is covered by mountains on both sides. Plus the apartment is on the minus the second floor and overlooks the wadi. When undermining the Knesset, Rehavia, Nayot, Nahlaot, Kiryat Moshe, Givaat Mordechai, Byte VaGan, Romema will suffer first of all, and there are also enough streets in these areas on the back slopes.
                1. +3
                  25 December 2019 07: 54
                  There will most likely be a ground explosion. Nahlaot and Byte VeGan will demolish immediately. And part of the old Catamon. In general, I lived in Jerus for a long time - 12 years ago, I don’t remember all the details of the topography)).
  27. +2
    24 December 2019 21: 43
    I wonder what cities are ready for a nuclear strike?
    1. +2
      24 December 2019 22: 45
      Quote: opuonmed
      and which cities are ready for a nuclear strike?

      Who cares? request And generally speaking:
      No need to fear nuclear war. Let half of humanity perish, but the remaining half will live under communism.
      Mao Tse Dong
      1. +1
        24 December 2019 23: 32
        Quote: Paranoid50
        but the remaining half will live under communism.
        Mao Tse Dong

        well mao eze that "thinker"
        and if it is communism

        then, yes, not half of course, but will live under "communism"
        1. +1
          24 December 2019 23: 49
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          if it is communism

          The most typical, trivial. laughing
        2. +4
          25 December 2019 00: 05
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          Quote: Paranoid50
          but the remaining half will live under communism.
          Mao Tse Dong

          well mao eze that "thinker"
          and if it is communism

          then, yes, not half of course, but will live under "communism"

          And the guys are singing with the photo “The dawn of the East grows cold” laughing
  28. 0
    24 December 2019 21: 45
    A real nuclear strike is not a computer hack for you. But it seems that today's Americans do not see the difference. But in vain ..., ..............
  29. -1
    24 December 2019 21: 47
    Let them go to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, let them study with them, goats ... mattresses.
    1. 0
      24 December 2019 22: 15
      In Hiroshima in 1942, 412 thousand inhabitants lived, in 2019 one million two hundred thousand. 263 thousand lived in Nagasaki, now more than 420 thousand. Photos of modern cities can be found on the Internet.
      1. 0
        24 December 2019 23: 12
        firstly, these two strikes were targeted, not masked throughout the country, secondly, the smaller the people, the less consequences, for China it will not be terrible nuclear strikes but subsequent epidemics due to the huge number of corpses and uncontrolled movement of huge masses of people
        1. +4
          25 December 2019 00: 08
          I’m not sure that coughing blows will be applied throughout the country.
          Everyone will want to keep a certain amount of nuclear weapons.
          The main attacks will fall on military facilities, the military-industrial complex, large administrative and industrial centers.
  30. 0
    24 December 2019 22: 30
    Over time, the fear of WMD somehow diminished, and everyone so boldly talks about bombing. But if this happens, God forbid, misfortune will affect every family. Nobody can sit on sofas. And there will be nowhere to wait for help.
  31. xax
    0
    24 December 2019 23: 25
    Trying to imagine a city ready for a nuclear war. Obviously, this is the city from which the entire population was taken. Any city in which adults go to work, children in kindergartens and schools, patients are in hospitals, etc. etc., in general, everyone leads a normal peaceful life - not ready for a nuclear war.
  32. +2
    24 December 2019 23: 57
    Oh, these Americans. Remind them of tips, instructions about the microwave and kote laughing
    This readiness is not needed, it will not help the majority .. units are saved all over the balloon, and their survival will be hell. Here is prose and reality.

    Who needs these articles? I thought that for those who want to spend money on building bunkers, private shelters, a military lobby, and then I realized))) this is needed mainly for those who support the general degree of hysteria in the world. To the one who orders modern politics and rules the world according to the principle: scare and rule.
  33. +2
    25 December 2019 00: 35
    Quote: Masha
    Quote: faterdom
    It’s a shame, gentlemen, Americans, we must prepare. Digging dugouts, pouring them with concrete, storing pasta cartridges there ... And not eating burgers, drinking Coca-Cola ....

    C'mon ... they already set up the bunker ... we never dreamed of! laughing

    Here's a laugh at the end of the set - it's you in vain! Have you been to the bunkers? In the real ones? Have you tried living there? I would then look at what kind of emoticon you would choose, having lived in the bunker for at least a week. Together with the same funny.
    1. 0
      25 December 2019 01: 25
      I can say that the bunker as a room in the pioneer camp is only underground,
      beds in two tiers and a room for 24 people or more, depends on the type of shelter bombs, washbasins in two rows, 6-8 pieces through a half-wall, two toilets, mattresses, blankets, pillows, honey cabinet only where there are 50 and above people , damp, water on the floor, cabinets with weapons, a ventilation system, there are shelters in large shelters, what I saw from diesel torpedo boats and generators, a water well with a deferrization system, it’s different everywhere.
      We have a shelter near the house, the homeless people opened, everything was taken out, the room was flooded and a lot of garbage in the next house, the doors were opened, the walls were bricked, the masonry was taken out, the police took out all the weapons and ammunition, the rest was stretched out, you can’t spend a day in the shelter , terribly cold, +4 - 7 degrees, I would not have lived there for a long time!
  34. 0
    25 December 2019 03: 17
    The preparation of cities does not correspond to their views on this issue. The main thing is to protect the bases and the elite, the rest will have to sacrifice, nothing can be done.
  35. 0
    25 December 2019 07: 07
    ))) Well, they would have written ... READY TO EARN AT YOUR FEAR)))) get ready for war)))
  36. +2
    25 December 2019 14: 19
    Quote: Krasnodar
    I’m not sure that coughing blows will be applied throughout the country.
    Everyone will want to keep a certain amount of nuclear weapons.
    The main attacks will fall on military facilities, the military-industrial complex, large administrative and industrial centers.

    There will be no such strikes. Reducing the number of nuclear warheads in the world will lead to the fact that strikes will be primarily applied to infrastructure and military facilities. Self-targets are unlikely to hit the cities

    Quote: Dikson
    I was taught that way too ..) The problem is that nowadays schools, enterprises and state institutions have gas masks and OZK .. according to the staffing table .. And you can hardly find them at metro stations .. They will stay at the extreme, plastic bags on the legs, a gauze mask and a cape from the same plastic bag .. Well, for 400 meters such protection may be enough.))) There is no big sense in this anyway. Those who survive in the cities break not into villages, but into the ruins of the nearest supermarkets and weapons stores ... And then they will try to get to villages and "clean" places ..

    The civil defense services in enterprises for the most part are no longer left. Back in the 90s at the factory where he worked, this service began to be multiplied by zero. From this service there was only an expired gas mask, which hands do not rise to throw.
    OZK guys from the military school drove up when it was disbanded. And yes. Plastic bags, plastic raincoats. That's all protection

    Quote: Operator
    Adjusted for the fact that part of the townspeople already have their own cellars and shelters in rural areas with food supplies and hunting weapons

    Blessed is he who believes. There are half a percent of such people, if not less. At least in the provinces. Of our 80 apartment buildings, only one has a house in the countryside. And even that, it’s hard to say what kind of reserves it is when it happens there. Create reserves for the homeless? And even more so, he has no weapons. So there are very, very few of these. Most have cottages on the outskirts of the city

    Quote: CAT BAYUN
    In the Union, however, cities were built in accordance with the requirements of civil defense. I'm not talking about enterprises. There, in general (especially on large ones), all activities and the production process were consistent with GO plans. Starting from fire reservoirs and the number of windows in the warehouse to standby remote capacities.

    Alas, this is in the distant past. Now it’s good if between 17 storey houses there are half a hundred meters of space. And when between the houses in the 22 floors of 15-20 meters?

    Quote: CAT BAYUN
    There are cellars, but not everyone.

    Ours too. And if there is a basement, then this is a pencil case 1,5-2 meters wide and 3-4 meters long. Clogged with different rubbish (before, at least people had twists, now this is almost gone)

    Quote: Petrol cutter
    But for protection in the use of nuclear weapons, I think it’s not harmful to everyone to refresh their memory. Well, and who does not know, read.

    Of course you can read. But just reading will do little. Resources will be needed (financial) and large enough to at least partially prepare themselves for the coming end of the world.

    Quote: Arzt
    Here is the reality. IT began to be built in 1952.

    This is museum. And this bunker was not built for residents of the surrounding houses. As well as "Metro-2", as well as other similar objects. Even though we are, even in the west
  37. 0
    25 December 2019 18: 08
    - It makes no sense to build a bunker in the absence of an early warning system about a nuclear attack!