Fukushima called the terms of overflow of containers contaminated with radionuclide water


A few months before the start of the Olympic Games in Tokyo, IAEA experts once again inspected the Japanese nuclear power station Fukushima, which suffered a major accident with the release of radiation into the environment due to the tsunami. Experts noted the aggravation of such a problem as the accumulation of water contaminated with radionuclides in special containers at the station.


We are talking about water, which provides cooling of the reactor units at the station after the accident, as well as that which is the precipitation that came into contact with the "luminous" objects of the nuclear power plant. The Japanese company Tepco noted that they "collect" this water for storage with plans for further treatment. But there is so much contaminated water that they do not have time to clean it as planned. Tanks that are designed to store such water, according to experts, will be full by 2022.

One of the ways out when timely cleaning is not possible is to discharge part of the contaminated water into the ocean. This is evidenced by Japanese experts in the nuclear industry. But categorically opposed to this are fishermen, regional farmers, as well as environmental organizations in the Asia-Pacific region.

At the same time, experts note that with the further accumulation of water contaminated with radionuclides at Fukushima, there is a risk that the storage facilities may simply not withstand, for example, a new binge of the elements. Then all this radioactive water will flood the territory in an uncontrolled way and go into the sea, increasing the radiation level in this area hundreds, or even thousands of times.

The problem is being discussed, among other things, against the background of Japan’s preparations for the Summer Olympics. The IAEA notes that the situation with the rate of accumulation of radioactive water in Fukushima is "extremely serious and causes concern."

As an option, which the Japanese are talking about - partial evaporation of polluted water into the environment. However, no calculations have yet been presented on how dangerous this is in terms of increasing levels of air pollution in the region.
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  1. NEXUS 24 December 2019 14: 07 New
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    Oh, there’s a dark story with this Fukushima.
    1. vvvjak 24 December 2019 14: 22 New
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      Quote: NEXUS
      Oh, there’s a dark story with this Fukushima.

      That's for sure. The accident is more of Chernobyl, but no one is indignant, they do not shoot films, they do not require compensation (including from the USA). It's wonderful like that.
      1. NEXUS 24 December 2019 14: 24 New
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        Quote: vvvjak
        That's for sure. The accident is more of Chernobyl, but no one is indignant, they do not shoot films, they do not require compensation (including from the USA). It's wonderful like that.

        There, even the number of dead and sick afterwards was not announced ... as if there was not a nuclear power station there, but a toilet in the style of folk architecture.
        1. Shurik70 24 December 2019 14: 40 New
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          Overflowing, overflowing ...
          The Japanese have provided for everything! Water storages were installed half a kilometer from the coast. There the terrain is flat, so in which case everything will calmly pour into the ocean.
          Well, if the tsunami comes, then it's fine. The element is the same ... "Unforeseen" factor.
          1. NEXUS 24 December 2019 14: 43 New
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            There the terrain is flat, so in which case everything will calmly pour into the ocean.

            Well, where are the screams of Green Pis? That's right, they will not be, because the "green", like WADA and the IOC with giblets bought by Washington and will only say what the puppeteer will tell them.
            1. Alexey RA 24 December 2019 17: 26 New
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              Quote: NEXUS
              Well, where are the screams of Green Pis?

              And the Japanese always didn’t give a damn about Greenpeace. The Japanese get whales, in spite of all the prohibitions - what about the Ikolukhov?

              Tui is another interesting thing - at one time, the Japanese with foam at the mouth protested against the dumping of liquid radioactive waste into the ocean by our Pacific Fleet (there was no place to store it either - the tanks were full). And as regards - they decided to do the same.
        2. Avior 24 December 2019 17: 32 New
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          why not announced?
          six sick, one died.
          1. NEXUS 24 December 2019 17: 33 New
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            Quote: Avior
            why not announced?
            six sick, one died.

            This despite the fact that the accident at Fukushima is at least no less than in Chernobyl? Seriously?
      2. Finn 24 December 2019 14: 35 New
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        It will be problematic to demand from Westenhaus in the person of the USA, this is Toshiba’s daughter.
      3. Vadim237 24 December 2019 14: 43 New
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        Why there is no movie dock
      4. Servisinzhener 24 December 2019 15: 13 New
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        This may indicate that in Japan there is no "conscience of the nation" of "non-living" people with "bright faces"
      5. saveall 24 December 2019 15: 19 New
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        Quote: vvvjak
        Quote: NEXUS
        Oh, there’s a dark story with this Fukushima.

        That's for sure. The accident is more of Chernobyl, but no one is indignant, they do not shoot films, they do not require compensation (including from the USA). It's wonderful like that.

        Of course, after all, the Tepco company that controls Fukushima 1 belongs to the American General Electric ... And the Americans also designed this station illiterate. Are you ..? How is it possible? But Greta Tunberg rolls around with stupid slogans. Modern people are more and more stupid, if I may say so, creating simulacra in their brains and hiding the truth.
        https://polit.info/446428-fukusima-ubivaet-okean-pod-molchanie-mirovogo-soobshestva

      6. tihonmarine 24 December 2019 17: 13 New
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        Quote: vvvjak
        That's for sure. The accident is more than Chernobyl, but no one is indignant,

        And this is not the end of the Fokushima tragedy. The continuation is yet to come.
      7. georggy 25 December 2019 10: 49 New
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        You said it to the point.
    2. krops777 24 December 2019 14: 43 New
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      Oh, there’s a dark story with this Fukushima.


      But it’s dark, it seems that there are no recycling technologies, the imperial greatness doesn’t tell us to appeal to us, even when they had an accident how many times we offered them help, the Japanese might blow, it seems worse than ours. laughing
    3. Piramidon 24 December 2019 14: 47 New
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      Quote: NEXUS
      Oh, there’s a dark story with this Fukushima.

      I agree. In Chernobyl, everything was a lot of discovery. Maybe because Misha, he labeled them, opened the gates and allowed. And japas, as directed (guess from whom), have now covered up this topic. It is difficult to judge when information is unavailable. request
    4. Aibolit 24 December 2019 15: 49 New
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      More precisely, "radioactive" / history /
  2. maidan.izrailovich 24 December 2019 14: 15 New
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    They lie like breathing.
    Ocean pollution did not stop there for a second.
    https://fishki.net/2095421-fukusima-otravila-vesy-tihij-okean.html
    1. Vol4ara 24 December 2019 14: 57 New
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      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      They lie like breathing.
      Ocean pollution did not stop there for a second.
      https://fishki.net/2095421-fukusima-otravila-vesy-tihij-okean.html

      No chips is this a serious source?
  3. BARKAS 24 December 2019 14: 15 New
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    But uranium is mined from the solution in the deposit, why not use this technology there.
    1. venik 24 December 2019 14: 42 New
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      Quote: BARKAS
      But uranium is mined from the solution in the deposit, why not use this technology there.

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      In order to say THIS, you must DO NOT UNDERSTAND completely ( fool ) uranium enrichment technology !!!!
      WHAT to do with THIS rubbish ??? I can’t even imagine !!! An urgent need to dismantle the burial reactor all "active" elements ... But WHERE to do it in Japan ??? request
      1. BARKAS 24 December 2019 14: 50 New
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        What are you carrying when building the waste station where you were going to bury?
        1. Piramidon 24 December 2019 15: 10 New
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          Quote: BARKAS
          What are you carrying when building the waste station where you were going to bury?

          We have learned how to dispose of our waste (and not only our own waste) and, even, you know, recycle and reuse it. So, think about where to put yours. Westinghouse will help you.
        2. venik 24 December 2019 16: 03 New
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          Quote: BARKAS
          What are you carrying when building the waste station where you were going to bury?

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          Michael! I have already apologized for the "harsh" comment (sorry - I was in an extremely annoyed (not because of your comment) state!
          Second: During the construction of nuclear power plants in the USSR - ALWAYS (!) A system of "waste disposal" was provided !!! IS ALWAYS!! I know several of these "points" !!! By itself - CALL them - I DO NOT GO !!!
          And as for the "recycling" of NPP waste - that was the way it existed in the USSR (and now in Russia - exist!) a large-scale program to create a SNF reprocessing cycle based on fast neutron reactors ....
          PS But this is a "completely different story"!
          PPS That's about me. "I carry"!!! hi
      2. opus 24 December 2019 16: 05 New
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        Quote: venik
        WHAT to do with THIS rubbish ??? I can’t even imagine !!!

        Relax.
        It all depends on whether the radioactive substances in it are weighed or dissolved, on their half-life and chemical properties, the degree of water pollution, the amount of decontaminated) water, the degree of water hardness, etc., etc.
        1. Evaporate and bind the sediment chemically or mechanically (vitrification, concrete) and to the storage place
        2. Filter (osmosis), filters, the same as item 1.
        3. The method of multistage coprecipitation of lime and soda, sediment for processing and further paragraph 1.
        4. Ion exchange (resins and glauconite), the result of processing and further paragraph 1.
        5. Coagulation and flotation, then p. 1.
        6. Reagent softening of water (calcium carbonate), further for processing and further p. 1
        etc

        XXX AS EXCLUSIVE (my proposal) can be given away to North Korea for free, thereby giving son an extra trump card in bargaining with the Americans
        belay

        Quote: venik
        It is urgent to dismantle the reactor with the "burial" of all "active" elements ... But WHERE to do this in Japan ???

        1. If they could, they’ve already dismantled it, it’s “hot” and also dangerous in radiation
        2. You can bury:
        -More than 70% of the territory of Japan is occupied by mountains, and the whole life of the country It flows on a narrow strip of land, which stretches along the coastline. There are mountains, they can bury, only one reactor
        - The technology of creating artificial islands out of garbage has been successfully implemented in Japan for almost 10 years

        or see paragraph XXX
        you can give it to North Korea for free, thereby giving your son an extra trump card in bargaining with the Americans
        1. venik 24 December 2019 16: 40 New
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          Quote: opus
          1. Evaporate and bind the sediment chemically or mechanically (vitrification, concrete) and on a place store

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          And WHERE to find him in that Japan ???
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          Quote: opus
          2. You can bury:
          -More than 70% of the territory of Japan is occupied by mountains, and the whole life of the country takes place on a narrow strip of land that stretches along the coastline. There are mountains, they can bury, only one reactor

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          Anton! Did you take into account that almost the entire territory of Japan is the "SEISMOUS DANGEROUS zone" ???
          The second question: And THEY (Japanese) - CREATED similar "repositories" on their territory ??? If - NO - then HOW MUCH TIME will it take to BUILD THEM (storage) ??? And the time is ticking! His very few!!!
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          Quote: opus
          - The technology of creating artificial islands out of garbage has been successfully implemented in Japan for almost 10 years

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          Yeah !!! And all this radioactive "joy" - at the first earthquake - will flow into the Pacific Ocean ???
          Well, I do not! Here, Anton, I strongly disagree with you !!! A lousy decision! (Sorry!) hi
          1. opus 24 December 2019 16: 55 New
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            Quote: venik
            And WHERE to find him in that Japan ???

            described below
            Quote: opus
            -More than 70% of the territory of Japan is occupied by mountains, and the whole life of the country takes place on a narrow strip of land that stretches along the coastline. There are mountains, they can bury, only one reactor
            - The technology of creating artificial islands out of garbage has been successfully implemented in Japan for almost 10 years

            Quote: venik
            "SEISMICALLY DANGEROUS zone" ???

            not by bread alone
            Well, where do they go then? here the most dangerous are groundwater and rainfall (rain), and with this they have normal. Not the Leningrad Region with the Greenpin Mire

            Quote: venik
            The second question: And THEY (Japanese) - CREATED similar "repositories" on their territory ???

            1.No. SNF removal was implied in the country by the donor (USA, France). This threshing floor of course no one will accept from them ..
            2. Japs have foolish northern barbarians at their side
            “To prevent a nuclear burial ground in Primorye!”

            because Medvedev signed the decree No. 3009-r of December 29, 2018

            Japan has invested heavily in Russia, according to

            so we will help her
            1. venik 24 December 2019 17: 11 New
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              Quote: opus
              Japan has invested heavily in Russia, according to

              Quote: opus
              so we will help her

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              Yeah! Щ-щ-щ-ас !!! We’ll just put on “slippers” ..... And immediately we’ll run “help to dump SNF” !!! ...... And then we’ll give the Kuril Islands .... As a “compensation” ... For the accident at Fukushima ".....
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              Anton! Anything "MORE PRODUCTIVE" you do not find in the "annals" ????
              1. opus 24 December 2019 18: 16 New
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                Quote: venik
                Anton! Anything "MORE PRODUCTIVE" you do not find in the "annals" ????

                Yes, I have something? I’m all in the project: plasma high-temperature decontamination of hazardous waste ... True, this is not SNF and NWF
                at the expense of anal sex, odes, that Kirilenko, that Miller sings everything to Miller.
                Threat. if my personal opinion is interesting: then we will help, the probability is 90%, because:
                1. We are now truly leaders in this matter.

                2. This is not selling gas, like Miller and Co., sells and give 3 billion to Ukarians, for that. Yet these are high value-added technologies.
                Example: Sweden (Kral Sh V E Ts And I! good ) _ accepts (PURCHASES) municipal solid waste from Norway, Ireland, England and someone else at $ 42 / ton, has more than $ 100 a year on this + has 000% coverage in heat and energy from these annual balance of the country.
                100 MILLION EARN ON MONEY!
                We look at Miller
                Monthly Officially, Aleksey Borisovich as the chief manager of Russia's largest state-owned enterprise of resources receives
                58 million rubles:
                per day - 1 million 933 thousand rubles;
                the cost of one working hour - 80,5 thousand rubles;
                per minute - 1342 rubles.

                per year (salary only) GETS:
                58 * 000 = 000,00 rubles = more than $ 12, 696
                3. The Japanese helped us a lot with the disposal of spent nuclear fuel, nuclear waste and other mucking muck, which our RF Ministry of Defense simply threw on the street
                -1994-2001. With the Japanese money (about $ 45 million) at our shipyards, the Suzuran floating complex for the processing of liquid radioactive waste (translated from Japanese as “Lily of the Valley”) was built.
                -2003-2009 Japan, with a small contribution from Australia, South Korea and New Zealand allocated $ 65 million, partially funded the dismantlement of 6 nuclear submarines

                In 2014, Russia received approximately $ 2 billion out of the $ 20 billion allocated by them.

                EVERYONE (which is pictured) in since 2020 for 10 years ... and our share there was tiny.
                On what we have:


                -In 2012, with the help of Japan, a long-term storage facility for reactor compartments (PDHRO) was equipped on land.
                2010-2012. Japan allocates (about $ 55 million) for the equipment of a long-term storage facility for nuclear submarine compartments in Razboinik Bay: the construction and transfer to Russia of the Sakura floating dock, two gantry cranes with a lifting capacity of 10 and 32 tons and a Sumire tugboat.
                -2013-2014 another $ 7 million construction of the reactor compartment cleaning and painting workshop, shown above
                - if memory serves, then in 2018 Japan was going to allocate about 18 million dollars (1,16 billion rubles) to purchase equipment for the Regional Center for Air Conditioning and Long-Term Storage of Radioactive Waste in the Primorsky Territory ..
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                Threat. the sons of the samurai need help.
                For money, of course, and wisely.
        2. saveall 24 December 2019 16: 43 New
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          Quote: opus
          Relax.
          It all depends on whether the radioactive substances in it are weighed or dissolved, on their half-life and chemical properties, the degree of water pollution, the amount of decontaminated) water, the degree of water hardness, etc., etc.

          So dirty water is a secondary problem ... The primary problem, as I understand it, from what this water is formed and still will not be known for how long, namely, nuclear fuel melted to the state of lava - corium, which if not cooled will burn everything on its way and goes into the ground poisoning all groundwater and the same ocean.
          1. opus 24 December 2019 17: 08 New
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            Quote: saveall
            So dirty water is a secondary problem ..

            the question was about LRW and LRAO-liquid radioactive waste, and the article about it.

            Quote: saveall
            nuclear fuel melted to a state of lava - corium,

            Yes.
            only this (K) is not fuel, it is a mixture of molten nuclear fuel with concrete, garbage, steel
            We have
            237 tons in one reactor No. 2 and 880 tons in all reactors No. 1-3.

            Each nuclear power plant has a temporary storage facility for spent nuclear fuel (spent nuclear fuel).
            At Fukushima, this vault still performed the role of the collector of several nuclear power plants.

            TEPCO specialists will try to find a way to divide deadly garbage into many parts.
            The energy company TERSO, as the Japanese press writes, launched into the bowels of the reactor a robotic arm about 15 meters long. At the end of this “hand” there are special probes (“fingers”) that will try to literally “rake” the fuel and then remove it to the surface.


            It is impossible to encapsulate them, because they keep warming.
            Transporting is dangerous ..
            The only way out is to store it somewhere nearby so that you can remove the residual heat.
            For this, a temporary SNF storage facility is quite suitable.
            1. saveall 24 December 2019 17: 27 New
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              Quote: opus
              The only way out is to store it somewhere nearby so that you can remove the residual heat.
              For this, a temporary SNF storage facility is quite suitable.

              Interestingly, how are you going to get it out of the reactors in order to put it into the SNF temporary storage?
              only this (K) is not fuel

              I am aware that this is no longer fuel, but somehow it was necessary to designate it ...
              1. opus 24 December 2019 18: 35 New
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                Quote: saveall
                Interestingly, how are you going to get it out of the reactors in order to put it into the SNF temporary storage?

                not me but the Japanese .. can you read?
                Quote: opus
                The energy company TERSO, as the Japanese press writes, launched into the bowels of the reactor about 15 meters long robotic arm. At the end of this “hand” there are special probes (“fingers”), which will try to literally "rake" the fuel and then remove it to the surface.


                Quote: saveall
                but somehow to designate it was necessary ...

                so you designated it already- KORIUM (fuel containing material (FCM) or lava-like fuel containing material (LFCM)

                1. saveall 24 December 2019 19: 04 New
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                  so you designated it already- KORIUM (fuel containing material (FCM) or lava-like fuel containing material (LFCM)

                  And why are you so boiling over such a trifle? belay Cling to the words, post whole sheets ... We all already realized that we were talking with a great specialist on the topic ... Well, be simpler ... come down to us "gray", please, from the height of your unattainable level . drinks
                  1. opus 24 December 2019 19: 18 New
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                    Quote: saveall
                    And why are you so boiling over such a trifle?

                    calm as a tank ... do not cling if offended, sorry.
                    I will not post
                    1. saveall 24 December 2019 19: 23 New
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                      Well then ... drinks
            2. saveall 24 December 2019 18: 29 New
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              What kind of "robotic arm" is there ... They still cannot unload old spent fuel from the storage facilities.
              http://atominfo.ru/newsq/x0516.htm
              Now the unloading has been postponed for 23 years. Apparently by the 23rd year they plan to invent enta hand.
              1. opus 24 December 2019 19: 28 New
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                Quote: saveall
                What is the "robotic arm"

                a


                Quote: saveall
                Now the unloading has been postponed for 23 years.

                1.Info 2017 - old stuff ..

                April 2019

                Fukushima: removal of nuclear fuel rods from a damaged reactor building has begun



                TEPCO began removing fuel rods from Block 3 basin in April 2019 and intends to remove all 566 by March 2021. Removal of rods from blocks 1 and 2 should begin in 2023. By 2031, TEPCO also plans to remove two thousand and two other units that survived the tsunami will be stored in dry barrels in the complex. At the time of the accident, there were more than 6300 fuel rods in six pools with reactor cooling, and only the 4th block pool was empty.

                2. Builds are not the biggest problem right now.
                In general, the entire cleaning cycle for them is 30-40
                1. saveall 24 December 2019 20: 34 New
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                  Fukushima: removal of nuclear fuel rods from a damaged reactor building has begun

                  Here you are a strange person ... According to your link, it is also written:
                  Workers at the wrecked Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant have begun removing fuel rods from a storage pool near one of the three reactors that suffered meltdowns eight years ago.

                  And then again ...
                  TEPCO began to remove fuel rods from the pool of block 3 ...
                  Removal of rods from blocks 1 and 2 should begin in 2023 ...

                  So storage pool this is the storage pool in which spent fuel is temporarily stored. Where is it about corium overload in BV about which you spoke? Well, about the notorious "hand" is also not a word ... Well, in the end, like a cherry ... Unloading from the 1st and 2nd will begin in 2023. belay But didn’t I write about the same thing? lol What was all this post for?
                  If there was such an opportunity, they would have long ago unloaded this corium even if it had a “robotic leg” or something else ... But they don’t have such an opportunity yet. You see. No. And there are no heroes who would do this with great risk to life.
    2. Vol4ara 24 December 2019 14: 58 New
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      Quote: BARKAS
      But uranium is mined from the solution in the deposit, why not use this technology there.

      Because it’s not uranium but decay products
      1. venik 24 December 2019 16: 22 New
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        Because it’s not uranium but decay products

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        Alexander! There is not only uranium and its decay products! There are also materials with "induced radioactivity" !!! In short: "The whole broth" !!!
        In general, I don’t understand: WHAT "clinical idiots" did it occur to build a nuclear power plant in such an earthquake-prone zone as Japan ??? Moreover, without much experience in this area! Well this must be "sick for the whole head" !!!
    3. venik 24 December 2019 15: 20 New
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      But uranium is mined from the solution in the deposit, why not use this technology there.

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      Michael!
      I apologize for the overly harsh comment I made earlier!
      I will try to explain (as I can):
      Example № 1: When enriching uranium, as well as when spinning clothes in a washing machine, the same principle is used - "principle centrifuges"! Does this mean that in your washing machine you can enrich uranium??
      Of course not! The principle is ONE - Technology (modes) - DIFFERENT !!!

      Example № 2: There is a turbine engine on the T-80 tank ..... Does this mean that you can “mantle” the engine from the helicopter there? (By the way, this is exactly what they did at the beginning! They put TV3-117 ..... The result is "zilch" !!! Not a "ride! I had to design a turbine from scratch!) ...

      SAME - and here !!! And it requires HUGE cash (but not this - the main thing!), And a lot of time (for the development of technology, instruments and equipment, their testing, etc.) ..... But there is NO TIME !!!!!
      Sorry for the "sharpness" again !!! hi
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  4. JonnyT 24 December 2019 14: 16 New
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    They’ll take them to Ukraine, because if they merge into the ocean, then everything in the United States will sail. Or they will ask the Russian Federation to solve the problem
    1. maidan.izrailovich 24 December 2019 14: 29 New
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      ... if it is poured into the ocean, then everything in the USA will sail

      The US coast is already dirty. And every day more and more.
      And both of them are silent for many reasons. Well, firstly, the nuclear power plant project was American. Including the location of the Americans determined. Which, in general, led to the disaster. Secondly, Japan is a strategic partner (vassal). These are two main reasons because of which they do not make noise.
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        This is what "American technology" is leading to.
  5. Kerensky 24 December 2019 14: 16 New
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    Well, if controlled to dump, then there will be nothing wrong. Nature will digest everything. But the emergency reset, this is byaka.
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    Usually, when problems arise, people look for ways to solve them. Our innovative project, being a continuation of the development of Fillimonenko, solves these problems. But with all the evidence it is not interesting to anyone. At the same time, the problem of the disposal of radioactive contaminated water and other liquid wastes not only in Japan, but with the growth of the development of nuclear energy, it is even more intensified.
  7. Basarev 24 December 2019 14: 19 New
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    Russia will accept! German fonny shit accepted, and the Japanese will. Especially given the desire of a person personally to make peace at any cost.
    1. gridasov 24 December 2019 14: 28 New
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      The so-called alternative energy is not able to cover the growth of electricity consumption in any case. All other types of traditional energy production have limitations in growth and development. Therefore, the only logical way to develop energy production is precisely nuclear energy. That is why in Russia they understand more deeply that the source radioactive material is exhaustible and now it simply needs to be bought up as an undervalued product. But technologies should be brought under smaller and safer reactors.
      1. Basarev 24 December 2019 14: 33 New
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        Do not misunderstand me. I’m not a fanatic of alternative energy and I also appreciate a peaceful atom ... But the Kremlin clique really makes the country a dumping ground for nuclear waste. There are no valuable isotopes in the tails, only fluffing slag, which can no longer be processed - only bury, poisoning the environment. Not a single developed country keeps them, only Russia accepts them.
        1. gridasov 24 December 2019 14: 47 New
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          Nevertheless, there are technologies for the enrichment of weakly radioactive materials. For example, our innovative project is considering a nuclear reactor of a fundamentally new kind and it is on such weakly radioactive materials. Its essence is to transform radial radiation into linear and not to heat the intermediate heat carrier, but to immediately transform it into variable electronic magnetic processes. Yes, so far there is little interest in this technology. But, it is for now!
        2. Vadim237 24 December 2019 14: 53 New
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          In Russia, all nuclear waste is processed and there is a technology for obtaining new fuel from the waste for nuclear power plants. And there are no nuclear waste dumps in Russia, all the former repositories clean and liquidate as well as dangerous facilities of the former atomic production.
        3. Vol4ara 24 December 2019 15: 39 New
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          Do not misunderstand me. I’m not a fanatic of alternative energy and I also appreciate a peaceful atom ... But the Kremlin clique really makes the country a dumping ground for nuclear waste. There are no valuable isotopes in the tails, only fluffing slag, which can no longer be processed - only bury, poisoning the environment. Not a single developed country keeps them, only Russia accepts them.

          Well, and what is there in this slag that is unnecessary? Tell me, and where didn’t any valuable isotopes go from there, maybe Germany herself extracted it from plants that don’t have, where did 235 and 238 uranium and plutonium go? Have you heard about moss fuel and closed yatts? Or is it all a conspiracy of nuclear scientists, about the same as a conspiracy of historians and astronomers, only nuclear scientists?
        4. bk316 24 December 2019 15: 44 New
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          There are no valuable isotopes in the tails, only sinking slag,

          Do not write a lot of words if you do not understand their meaning ....
  8. Gray brother 24 December 2019 14: 21 New
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    Let them take radon baths there and make Nyuka-Cola.
  9. Gray brother 24 December 2019 14: 25 New
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    In general, I wonder why the Eponets on the ocean coast set up a station if they have tsunamis, hurricanes, Godzilla and other garbage constantly happening.
    And why did they use instead of robots in the dangerous work of homeless people recruited by the Yakuza?
  10. evgen1221 24 December 2019 14: 26 New
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    Well, the option to steam 404m is possible. Petro would approve with a happy grunt.
    1. Gray brother 24 December 2019 14: 33 New
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      Well, the option to steam 404m is possible.

      If only dilute with technical alcohol.
    2. JonnyT 24 December 2019 14: 35 New
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      So they are under Chernobol and create a landfill for open storage for barrels with fading waste, as it all suspiciously converges. True, there are problems with transportation
  11. Funny Japanese, all decisions come down to whether to drain contaminated water into the ocean or evaporate into the atmosphere. I won’t be surprised if it still siphats into the ocean. Of course there is an option for water purification, but here I have doubts, is this even possible? No, I read about water hyacinth about the plant, and other methods .. but how effective are they in practice?

    Greta Thunberg there, let him tell the Japanese how to resolve the situation.
    1. Vadim237 24 December 2019 14: 55 New
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      Systems for water purification from radioactive isotopes and elements are in Russia.
    2. Gray brother 24 December 2019 15: 27 New
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      Quote: Advisor to the Council of Advisers
      Is this even possible?

      There is tritium. They can only clean tritium in Russia.
      If you evaporate into the atmosphere, then I hope that this rain falls in Japan.
      1. Servisinzhener 24 December 2019 15: 41 New
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        I would venture to suggest that tritium, with its half-life of 12 years, in which an electron and neutrino is released, is not the biggest problem there. And the main one is long-lived isotopes and the volume of accumulated water.
        1. Gray brother 24 December 2019 15: 49 New
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          . And the main one is long-lived isotopes and the volume of accumulated water.

          The rest must be filtered, there are all kinds of coagulants, filters, etc. Only it was necessary to immediately think how to do it and build a factory nearby, and not wait for the fried rooster to bite into japa.
          This is not a jolt to them with access to the Internet and not a woman talking silicone.
          1. Servisinzhener 24 December 2019 15: 56 New
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            The Japanese, of course, amaze me. The task seems to be elementary, as in a school about a pool and a pipe. Although maybe they have always been like that, and our ideas about them are just as true as the food in our sushi restaurants with what is served in Japan.
            1. Gray brother 24 December 2019 16: 02 New
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              land

              In the old days, the fishermen of Japan used to eat raw fish directly into the sea, because on the shore the samurai would take everything away, or some other queen.
              And since then nothing has changed - respected people will never meet this little water anyway, and they don’t give a damn about the mob
    3. Servisinzhener 24 December 2019 15: 36 New
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      To talk about the possibility of purification, one must know the composition of these waters and the volume.
      1. Thank you all for your answers.
      2. gridasov 24 December 2019 16: 37 New
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        It doesn’t matter! In our case!
    4. Vol4ara 24 December 2019 15: 41 New
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      Quote: Advisor to the Council of Advisers
      Funny Japanese, all decisions come down to whether to drain contaminated water into the ocean or evaporate into the atmosphere. I won’t be surprised if it still siphats into the ocean. Of course there is an option for water purification, but here I have doubts, is this even possible? No, I read about water hyacinth about the plant, and other methods .. but how effective are they in practice?

      Greta Thunberg there, let him tell the Japanese how to resolve the situation.

      Judgment in appearance, she comes from there
    5. Finn 24 December 2019 15: 51 New
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      Let the hose be wound to the rocket with a propeller and launch one end into space. Or let the Americans take it as change for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But in fact, there are few reasons for humor. Biological resources will be poisoned.
    6. Crimean partisan 1974 24 December 2019 19: 53 New
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      I won’t be surprised if it still siphats into the ocean. ... there it’s not siphon, but they drive 10 cubic meters per second into the sea-ocean, a buzz in one word, and mind you. the desire for the Kuril Islands revived, not something to eat
      1. It looks very scary. Such a picture would be 2019.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974 25 December 2019 07: 05 New
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          Such a picture would be in 2019 ......... and it is, all radioactive g .... goes to the bottom, and then rises to the surface with plankton, seafood is prohibited closer than 500 km from the coast at the time 2015, now probably the ban zone has increased, that's why there is such a stir in the Kuril Islands today for the Yap, eat hotz
  12. rocket757 24 December 2019 14: 31 New
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    The atom for peaceful purposes also brings troubles and not small ones.
    A serious topic for thought.
    How can one not recall the frantic Gretta.
  13. Alien From 24 December 2019 14: 39 New
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    And the Yaps along the way have something to hide ........
  14. Operator 24 December 2019 14: 47 New
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    Maybe send it to FIG, the radioactive Olympics-2020 in Tokyo?

    And those Russian athletes who foolishly go to this area under a white rag should not be allowed back because of the increased radioactive background bully
  15. Lord of the Sith 24 December 2019 14: 56 New
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    Where are the howls of green pussy, wada, green and similar clowns? Where is Greta, from whom radionuclides were stolen in Japan?

    Silence.
    And so it goes.
  16. Old26 24 December 2019 15: 26 New
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    Quote: rocket757
    The atom for peaceful purposes also brings troubles and not small ones.
    A serious topic for thought.
    How can one not recall the frantic Gretta.

    Brings. If it relates to the atom condescendingly. Say nothing to worry about. Although sometimes nuclear power plants are still better than the same thermal. I lived for about 15 years in Novocherkassk, early in the morning I could clearly see the “tails” from the pipes of the state district power station, which dumped all this rubbish onto the city. The locals then said it would be better if it were atomic. Then Chernobl, they no longer remembered atomic ones. Then the collapse of the Union and the supply of this "coal" from Ukraine decreased (it became better), and then they generally say the station was transferred to gas.
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      Quote: Old26
      Brings. If it relates to the atom condescendingly. Say nothing to worry about.

      He suggested THINKING on this topic so as not to make previous mistakes and not produce new ones!
      Just .... I was very much "loved" and appreciated.
      What people do not like to think so?
      By the way, if we are in our desire to do, remake, have, etc. they thought more about the consequences, did everything wisely and thoroughly, the “frantic Greta” would not have found as many followers !!!
      Despite the fact that she often carries such a blizzard that it is impossible to recognize this as normal. People are simply afraid because they do not know, do not understand, DO NOT BELIEVE!
  17. Servisinzhener 24 December 2019 15: 50 New
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    I watched something like that on the Science 2.0 channel about nuclear power plants. Including there was an interview of some guy from Rosatom. He also talked about the situation at Fokushima. The fact that the headquarters on the spot coordinated all the actions with the Prime Minister and so far no consent was given from Tokyo, no action was taken.
    And also about bringing power to the circulation pumps. Designing the power line instead of urgently connecting the pumps by dropping the ground cable from the nearest "source" of electricity.
  18. awdrgy 24 December 2019 16: 45 New
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    The main thing is that Russia would not be affected!
  19. Azazelo 24 December 2019 17: 23 New
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    What the hell Olympics-Japan is now an environmental disaster zone ...
  20. Kibl 24 December 2019 18: 45 New
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    Greta, Fukushima, Fas !!!
  21. Crimean partisan 1974 24 December 2019 20: 02 New
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    yes, the Iponians once again forced the tank to read, though it dragged on for a long 8 years, and there is no end in sight
  22. IL-64 24 December 2019 22: 34 New
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    But what about Japan’s responsibility to American tourists?
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    But there is so much contaminated water that they do not have time to clean it as planned.

    Yes, they pour it into the ocean in a quiet course .. Concentrations cannot be fixed, but if a school of fish gets there, that's it .. (who catches it and eats it) .. Such info has been walking for a long time and the "green bastards" are silent, like fish .. Especially given the fact that the "Sea of ​​Okhotsk" is officially the inland of Russia, since 2015 .. But the Japanese are polluting it with the tacit consent of the US demand !!!!
  24. shmelik45 25 December 2019 21: 31 New
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    Oh, there’s a dark story with this Fukushima.

    Regarding Fukushima, there is an interesting interview with Igor Nikolayevich Ostretsov from 1980 to 2008 - deputy director of the All-Russian Research Institute of Nuclear Engineering for Science