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Difficulties for Vietnam on possible acquisition of Su-57 declared in China

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The other day, a report was released by the Vietnamese Ministry of Defense, which states that the country will focus on developing its own new-generation fighter with stealth technologies. It is noted that Vietnam will rely on the work of its own engineers and scientists.


These statements are actively commented on by the Vietnamese neighbor - China. A number of Chinese media outspokenly vernacular materials claiming that Vietnam will have obvious problems in terms of creating its own “invisible fighter”. In particular, it is noted that earlier the Vietnamese Air Force "always tried to follow in the footsteps of the Chinese Air Force: China buys the Su-27 - Vietnam buys the Su-27, China acquires the Su-30 - Vietnam acquires the Su-30."

Now, as they say in the Chinese press, China created the fifth generation fighter J-20 on its own, and Vietnam currently has no way to get a fighter of this kind.

Chinese military experts believe that Vietnam had the only chance to get a fifth-generation fighter - the acquisition of Su-57 fighters from Russia, but “when they visited Russia, representatives of the Vietnamese air force were faced with the fact that the aircraft was too expensive to be purchased at least in the format limited party. " It has been added that Vietnam has been developing rapidly in economic terms recently, however, the purchase of the Su-57 batch “the Vietnam military budget of about $ 6 billion a year will not stand it.”

Also, the Chinese media write that while the Su-57 is not in service with Russia itself, which leaves an imprint on the possibility of its export to Vietnam.

From comments:

Even if Vietnam buys two or three Su-57 fighters from Russia, what will it give it to the air force?
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  1. The comment was deleted.
    1. Lone gunman
      Lone gunman 21 December 2019 08: 30
      +4
      Is it a troll, in fact, can you say something?
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        1. Russobel
          Russobel 21 December 2019 08: 45
          +6
          What kind of bullshit drew, and even a lover of stench from the morning?
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    2. Tusv
      Tusv 21 December 2019 08: 30
      +5
      Quote: RaptorF22v RaptorF22v
      Yes, no one will buy this soup57

      You will say too. We have this Su to fig in the VKS, and those who want to buy even more.
      The machine is impressive, that even the Su-35 nervously smokes on the sidelines
    3. Crazy
      Crazy 21 December 2019 08: 31
      +8
      Quote: RaptorF22v RaptorF22v
      Yes, no one will buy this soup57 lol

      Laughs the one who laughs last .. I remember the Germans in the 41st also laughed at our army and our weapons .. Well, I know the result!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 December 2019 08: 39
        +2
        Ha, we'll see how the "penguin" will be tested .... There is, after all, an obligation in general, but the great enthusiasm has diminished.
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        1. Crazy
          Crazy 21 December 2019 08: 44
          +3
          Quote: RaptorF22v RaptorF22v
          Germans at 41 lol laughing Yes Germans live better than in Russia

          Well there is, but they live like vassals ..
          Quote: RaptorF22v RaptorF22v
          One man’s daughters live there. The whole elite lives there.

          Well this is their problem if something happens .. hi
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          2. rocket757
            rocket757 21 December 2019 09: 08
            +6
            Quote: Crazy
            Quote: RaptorF22v RaptorF22v
            Germans at 41 lol laughing Yes Germans live better than in Russia

            Well there is, but they live like vassals ..
            Quote: RaptorF22v RaptorF22v
            One man’s daughters live there. The whole elite lives there.

            Well this is their problem if something happens .. hi

            Ha, to my neighbors, the Germans, another family from Germany arrived the day before yesterday. Some new ones. Can stay?
            And so, THREE families have already moved to our village over the past two years. They built houses, cucumbers, grow tomatoes ... and he didn’t live there in Germany ???
            The little boy went to school, speaks not very Russian ... nothing, ours will quickly teach him, everything, everything!
            1. Crazy
              Crazy 21 December 2019 09: 19
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              Ha, to my neighbors, the Germans, another family from Germany arrived the day before yesterday. Some new ones. Can stay?
              And so, THREE families have already moved to our village over the past two years. They built houses, cucumbers, grow tomatoes ... and he didn’t live there in Germany ???

              There is such a Victor .. I remember in college with a German a purebred sign was a red hehe)
              A smart guy who was reasonable and studied at the Physics and Mathematics Institute and had a great sense of humor (I congratulated him on May 9, and he congratulated me on June 22)))
              In short, he left for Germany, he works as a carrier and is so sad judging by the letters .. misses Russia, relations, etc.
              And our Su-57s will still show themselves in real actions .. You can’t open up now, just like with air defense-PRO.!
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 21 December 2019 09: 26
                +1
                Time will put everything in its place.
                About our equipment, our aircraft, which is obvious .... That is why they do not fly, drive, swim, where OURS forbade them! They think that for the "deaf, those who do not understand," it can go sideways!
                1. Crazy
                  Crazy 21 December 2019 12: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: rocket757
                  They realize that for the "deaf, those who do not understand," it can go sideways!

                  Now it’s already coming out .. The USA is catching up with us so far. We have escaped, in shock itself .. But on the other hand, they are hitting us harshly in politics and finance.
                  And here on the site the same thing happens hi
                  These are the cases in counterintelligence at Sudoplatov, etc. !
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 21 December 2019 12: 34
                    +1
                    Break through, not the first time!
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 21 December 2019 09: 32
              0
              Quote: rocket757
              Ha, to my neighbors, the Germans, another family from Germany arrived the day before yesterday. Some new ones. Can stay?

              Ha. Here the topic is how to meet the Su-57 in the air and not crap.
              What is the difference between the 5th generation and the fourth? Fourth under the Radar Protection, Fifth in a free hunt and FSE hi
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 21 December 2019 10: 09
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                Quote: Tusv
                Ha. Here the topic is how to meet the Su-57 in the air and not.

                It happens, the exchange of opinions about different things.
                About the plane, what can I say ... Nothing new so far.
                It will be so until extraordinary, remarkable events take place.
                While we wait with and look closely soldier
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 21 December 2019 10: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  About the plane, what can I say ... Nothing new so far.

                  And no one will say about the plane. It flies on tests, and the Su 35 has already entered the back hemisphere of a dinosaur. So far, due to the powerful air defense and RTV radars of the Russian Federation,
                  Do you think that we are a pilot, costing 3 regimental sets of S-400 for free hunting? Life is priceless, only why some seek to destroy it
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 21 December 2019 10: 39
                    0
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Do you think

                    Do you know what we think? It’s funny.
                    Everything that is happening now is the usual army work, plus designers, methodologists, analysts and tactics are doing what they should.
                    While all.
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv 21 December 2019 10: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      regular army work, plus designers,

                      That's exactly funny. We want the Su-57 to be seen this way and not to be seen. This is TK, and here, here, I’m not ready to compare the machine. Sell or buy. This is how to divide our vast Motherland. We have everything on a skew, but for some reason always envious people get the first number
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 21 December 2019 11: 02
                        +1
                        Quote: Tusv
                        . Such is TK, And here, here, I’m not ready to compare the machine

                        I want to remind all the hasty people when the rush is needed, it’s known for a long time and for sure!
                        And also to ask ... did we have a war tomorrow?
                        Moreover, at the moment and for the long term, our main arguments are very vigorous arguments!
                        Everything that is done for later, for the future, needs to be done calmly, thoroughly!
                      2. Tusv
                        Tusv 21 December 2019 11: 14
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                        Quote: rocket757
                        And also to ask ... did we have a war tomorrow?

                        We’ll fill up with corpses. Yeah. We are many times less on the continent of Russia than on the European peninsula. A lyuley still rake for centuries. And the Victory Parade is for those who want to row, but cannot
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 21 December 2019 11: 30
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                        The main argument for everyone is the danger of burning everything at once. They do not forget this, despite the talk of all sorts of different.
                        Everyone understands that there can be no war in a geyropa against a nuclear power !!! But arms manufacturers also want to eat, very sweetly and plentifully, because they intimidate, and then give money.
                      4. Tusv
                        Tusv 21 December 2019 12: 05
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                        Quote: rocket757
                        The main argument for everyone is the danger of burning everything at once.

                        The main argument is Spassky’s defense. There was such a chess player. in the USSR and I sincerely believe in this defense
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      4. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 21 December 2019 14: 13
        0
        The Vietnamese will be able to buy it, but also the author is right. With a budget of 6 billion, the purchase of such "tsatsek" puts an end to other purchases, and the Vietnamese want everything - ships, tanks and missiles.
  2. Flooding
    Flooding 21 December 2019 08: 28
    +1
    Quote: RaptorF22v RaptorF22v
    Yes, no one will buy this soup57 lol

    You started your speech too soon.
    I had to wait for the host's phrase "We give the floor to a well-known expert of large and small theaters"
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 21 December 2019 08: 31
      +1
      Academic forgot lol
  3. bayard
    bayard 21 December 2019 08: 29
    0
    They will wait, see how the Su-57 goes to the troops, dig up money and buy it.
    Or maybe the Su-35 will cost.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 21 December 2019 08: 44
      +1
      Quote: bayard
      Or maybe the Su-35 will cost

      And the Su -35 is the best air defense patrol machine. Not without her. And it should be contemplated by all radars, as on the state column of the border of the Russian Federation
      1. bayard
        bayard 21 December 2019 08: 52
        +2
        That's right - stealth is useless. And the Su-57 must first appear in the troops in order to prove the fact of its existence in mass production. Well, reviews of the operation of the first regiment rearm on him.
        But of course it will be expensive.
        If the Su-35 export price of the kit is about 100 billion dollars. , then the Su-57 will have no less than 150 billion.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 21 December 2019 09: 07
          +1
          Quote: bayard
          And the Su-57 must first appear in the troops to prove the fact of its existence

          Exactly. And buyers, as in a famous song later
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 21 December 2019 08: 41
    +2
    China and Vietnam have old graters, mutual "lubvi" and objectivity, one should not expect there!
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    2. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 21 December 2019 09: 11
      +2
      With its budget, you need to be more modest and discerning with whom to be friends and with whom not. However, one cannot lose memory either, the USSR is the only country that has extended a helping hand in a critical situation, Russia does not refuse old friends if they themselves do not lose their landmark.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 December 2019 09: 21
        0
        The world may have changed, but not so much that it would be necessary to forget everything at once, to change friends / partners.
        Not big countries learned to maneuver, back and forth! Who and where it will lead ... comes out differently, but somehow the same in general.
        The Vietnamese always aroused respect from me, the fighting guys and comrades are good! I hope nothing fundamentally changes there.
        And leaders, politicians ... any, everywhere, this is a separate "song" in general.
  5. Simfy
    Simfy 21 December 2019 08: 49
    +1
    The purchase of Su57 will give Vietnam new sanctions and damage in more than one green lard (
    1. knn54
      knn54 21 December 2019 09: 01
      0
      The Yankees will also crush
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      1. cost
        cost 21 December 2019 10: 26
        +2
        Vietnam considers acquisition of 12 SU -57


        Well, of course, buying a su-57 from Russia is an idiotic decision! Now, if the Vietnamese bought j-20 from China, that would be a wise decision. The Chinese are just trying to pull a blanket over their ass
        Reasoning from the opposite (modus tollens): once the Chinese were twitching, then Vietnam is doing everything right.
  6. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 21 December 2019 08: 50
    +1
    It is noted that earlier the Vietnamese Air Force "always tried to follow in the footsteps of the Chinese Air Force: China buys Su-27 - Vietnam buys Su-27, China acquires Su-30 - Vietnam acquires Su-30."
    Actually, these are the feet of the Soviet Air Force. It’s more profitable for courageous Vietnamese to buy in the USA, because everyone remembers under what slogan the Chinese then flooded. Even if the PRC now breaks into the junction highways. It will be under the flank attacks of the Vietnamese.
  7. maden.usmanow
    maden.usmanow 21 December 2019 09: 09
    -3
    The Chinese are happy early. When Trump is re-elected, F35 will be in Vietnam and India, and Taiwan will certainly be thrown.
  8. janeck
    janeck 21 December 2019 09: 36
    +6
    I don’t think that for Vietnam we will not find a way out with payment .. we "Sushki" and other weapons supply to Malaysia, and Malaysia is going to pay for military supplies with palm oil. so Vietnam will give us in exchange what we export from them.
  9. Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 21 December 2019 10: 03
    +2
    Something too many countries expressed a desire to develop 5 generation fighters, countries that do not even build corn
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 December 2019 10: 23
    0
    Vietnam currently has no way to get a fighter of this kind.
    Even taking into account the Sino-Vietnamese "disagreements", which means the involvement of experts, the Chinese side is right. Today, Vietnam alone is unable to create not only a fifth generation fighter, but also a fourth.
  11. Avior
    Avior 21 December 2019 11: 04
    +2
    They did not announce how much they ask for the Su57.
    It would be interesting to compare with the F-35
  12. Victoria-V
    Victoria-V 21 December 2019 11: 45
    0
    The absence of its own aviation industry in Vietnam makes this article useless. Like the comments ...
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 December 2019 11: 51
    0
    Well, let the Vietnamese buy the F-35 from the striped, they will probably be cheaper. And most importantly, well, to hell with them such planes?
  14. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 21 December 2019 11: 53
    +1
    Vietnam brought down thousands of Americans. I studied with Vietnamese pilots - strong men - handsome. And what were my friends Cubans and Angolans? Beauties! This is approximately 1975.
  15. camo ridges
    camo ridges 21 December 2019 11: 56
    +1
    Will we help the Vietnamese brothers? After all, once together
    merinos were ruined ...