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Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands

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Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands

To return the southern Kuril Islands to Japan, it is necessary to annul the post-war peace treaty and, in negotiations with Russia, take the position that all the Kuril Islands, including the northern islands, are Japanese territory. This statement was made by the chairman of the opposition Communist Party of Japan, Kazuo Shii.


These criticized the idea of ​​Japanese Prime Minister Sjo Abz about negotiations with Russia on the return of the two islands of the southern Kuril Islands to Japan and proposed to negotiate, claiming that all the Kuril Islands are Japanese territory. He also called an unfair peace settlement after World War II and called for the annulment of the San Francisco Peace Treaty, which recognized Tokyo’s refusal of the Kuril archipelago.

It is necessary to correct this injustice and annul the peace treaty, which recognizes the rejection of the Tishima archipelago (Kuril archipelago - approx.). Japan can achieve the return of the islands of the southern Kuril Islands if negotiations are started from the position that the entire archipelago, including its northern part, is Japanese territory

he said in an interview with Yomiuri Shimbun.

According to the Japanese politician, the last valid legal document defining the borders of Russia and Japan is the Agreement on the Exchange of the Kuril Islands for Sakhalin concluded in 1875, after which it was completely transferred to Russian control, and the border passed between Cape Lopatka in Kamchatka and Shumshu Island.

Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russian sovereignty over the Kuril Islands is undeniable, and Tokyo, in order to continue negotiations on a peace treaty, must recognize the results of World War II and the ownership of the Russian islands.
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  1. GKS 2111
    GKS 2111 15 December 2019 07: 08
    +31
    Our Kuril Islands. Point. Not discussed.
    1. rufaqn
      rufaqn 15 December 2019 07: 17
      -19
      The Russian Foreign Ministry does not agree with you, deriving the formula for a refundable return when Japan recognizes the results of the Second World War, but judging by the retreat on all fronts, they can put pressure on this position.
      1. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 15 December 2019 08: 00
        0
        What did you decide to eat with Russia for these islands? Well, let them risk their health, because there is still no peace treaty. You can recall how the last war ended for them.
        1. rufaqn
          rufaqn 15 December 2019 09: 13
          +24
          The Japanese Navy is head and shoulders above the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation, and 40 tanks on YuKo are nothing at all, the Far East has nothing to defend, and you are throwing agitation here, in case of a possible conflict, not 45 will be repeated, but 1905, in a more severe version, when Russia suffered a shameful defeat due to bungling possessing a powerful fleet and army, the defeat will be Tsushima in a square, without a fleet, with a "Potemkin" army mired in ostentatious "biathlon" other army games that have nothing to do with real combat training. and yes, the use of nuclear weapons will not, as you know, meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense is building the entire Temple in the Patriot Park instead of ships, and the Great Victory Day has been turned into a kind of Brazilian carnival, the RED STAR AND THE GEORGIAN TAPE have been disfigured to an irregularity on the sides of the equipment, the Mausoleum to which in the 45th year the fascist standards were thrown are shamefully obscured with plywood, so take away your photo and do not drag the glory of our ancestors onto yourself!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 15 December 2019 09: 28
            +20
            Quote: rufaqn
            The Great Victory Day was turned into a kind of Brazilian carnival, THE RED STAR, AND THE GEORGIAN TAPE!

            Well, what do you think, except in a capitalist society, communist realities will be exalted. The Red Star, the Mausoleum, the Red Banner and the name of Stalin, all this extends from our history.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 15 December 2019 10: 44
              +5
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Well, what do you think, unless in a capitalist society communist realities will be exalted

              Japanese the communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands.
              Workers of all countries unite?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 15 December 2019 10: 55
                +12
                Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands

                The Japanese Communists are completely crazy and are not Communists!
                These are not communists, but Japanese Nazis, as in Nazi Nazi in Germany.
                1. ul_vitalii
                  ul_vitalii 15 December 2019 11: 45
                  +13
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands

                  The Japanese Communists are completely crazy and are not Communists!
                  These are not communists, but Japanese Nazis, as in Nazi Nazi in Germany.

                  It is clear that the Japanese Communists are revisionists, and the Russian Communists at the level of Russian sports, in terms of the successes of their functionaries. recourse
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 15 December 2019 14: 29
                    +5
                    Vital hi and where are they, normal communists ???
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 15 December 2019 14: 53
                      +5
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      and where are they, normal communists ???

                      Yes, they appoint themselves, they obsi .... yut, but the people are to blame. Misunderstood the "party line" laughing
                      Hi hi
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 15 December 2019 14: 55
                        +10
                        about what it’s about - there is no Stalin and no communists, the opportunists alone
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 15 December 2019 16: 50
                        -2
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        The Japanese Communists are completely crazy and are not Communists!
                        And you and Khrushchev are not a communist and ebn is not a communist, and even labeled is not a communist. SO WHY were they the main Communists ???????
                        WE them, the people put on a post ???????
                        You asked the people ?????
                        They themselves have appointed, themselves and RESPOND to the PEOPLE.
                        YOUR party of the USSR has collapsed !!!!!!!
                        / Others at the helm NOT!
                        And do not nod about the traitors. Your portia has grown them.
                        Pavlik frost to you at the monuments

                        Quote: novel xnumx
                        about what it’s about - there is no Stalin and no communists, the opportunists alone

                        And you yourself, Lipchanin, the better the communists who degenerated after Stalin into revisionists and who believed them to be working people from the common people?
                        After all, you Lipchanin, also from the current party in power in the Russian Federation, are expecting for themselves personally prosperity on a “silver platter” - and all at the expense of the common people!

                        Former Minister of Press and Information of the Russian Federation Mikhail Poltoranin about who and when actually launched the process of the collapse of the USSR, what goals were set, and what influenced the formation of political and power elites of the latest period in Russian history.

                        Heroes-traitors of the USSR # Mikhail Poltoranin # USSR # KGB # Gorbachev # Yeltsin # RazvalSSSSR • Nov 9. 2019 year
                      3. Yuri Mikhailovsky
                        Yuri Mikhailovsky 15 December 2019 21: 36
                        +3
                        Found a commentator ... read the story ..
                      4. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 16 December 2019 02: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And you yourself, Lipchanin, the better the communists who degenerated after Stalin into revisionists and who believed them to be working people from the common people?

                        Those that I had nothing to do with your "party". I did not go to the "special distributors" and other "blessings" as "true communists."
                        I didn’t learn to roam from the rostrum
                        who and when actually started the process of the collapse of the USSR,

                        COMMUNISTS !!!!
                        That's it!
                        You are not former.
                      5. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 16 December 2019 02: 34
                        +1
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Those that I had nothing to do with your "party". I didn’t go to "special distributors" and other "blessings" as "true communists" .. I didn’t come out with a snout. I didn’t learn to talk from the podium

                        But I, too, have been non-partisan all my life. At school and in universities she was the headman of the group, at the enterprise she was a trade union organizer. And she also did not use "special distributors" and other "benefits". So why are we so different?

                        You, Lipchanin, do not like your people and people at all! Of you, a private proprietor without market has no idea! And the bile in you on all the Communists is a whole bucket! And you pour your bile indiscriminately to the right and left. But many Communists honestly and disinterestedly gave their lives for the people!
                      6. bk316
                        bk316 16 December 2019 14: 42
                        +1
                        But many Communists honestly and disinterestedly gave their lives for the people!

                        And the non-party gave.
                        And the petty-bourgeois owners (according to Lenin's definition) gave up.

                        But then the USSR collapsed EXACTLY members of the CPSU and not ordinary, but members of the Central Committee.
                      7. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 16 December 2019 14: 51
                        -2
                        Quote: bk316
                        But then the USSR collapsed EXACTLY members of the CPSU and not ordinary, but members of the Central Committee.

                        And now who is breaking up the Russian Federation? Who destroys social conquests for the people in the country?
                        In Russia, the same thing happens as in Ukraine. Only Ukraine 0 country is smaller than the Russian Federation, so the same processes in Ukraine are faster than in the Russian Federation.

                        5 millions of inhabitants will be enough for Ukraine, the rest will be disposed of. Igor Berkut.
                      8. bk316
                        bk316 16 December 2019 15: 22
                        -2
                        And now who is breaking up the Russian Federation? Who destroys social conquests for the people in the country?


                        And someone here is drowning in the core, how are you for the Communists?
                        I'm not saying that many of you so hated oligarchs and ministers are just members of the CPSU or Komsomol members.

                        And in general, it is high time for you to start separating the worldview (communist) and organization (CPSU), otherwise you are very much free to use the word "communist". Directly some kind of usurpation of the term.
                      9. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 16 December 2019 15: 32
                        -1
                        Quote: bk316
                        And now who is breaking up the Russian Federation? Who destroys social conquests for the people in the country?
                        And someone here is drowning in the core, how are you for the Communists?
                        I have a reason for this. The members of the party in power, "United Russia", apparently, too. Just what is the difference between us? This is clearly seen in Ukraine.

                        And yourself, on whose side are you, that you leave the question with a question?

                        HARRY BER KUT. UKRAINE: 40 YEARS IN THE DESERT. 02.02.2019 # DAWN • Feb 3. 2019 year
                      10. bk316
                        bk316 16 December 2019 15: 51
                        0
                        And yourself, on whose side are you, that you leave the question with a question?

                        In the context of this article, I am against the Japanese Communists and on the side of the Russian Foreign Ministry and specifically Lavrov.

                        If in the context of the collapse of the USSR, then I’m not just against it, but I consider criminals members of the CPSU to sign the Bialowieza Agreement and the CPSU Secretary General.

                        If we talk about the foreign policy of the Russian Federation, then I am on the side of the President of the Russian Federation.

                        If we talk about the domestic policy of the Russian Federation, I think that I should ask this question in 24 years and I promise to answer you.
                      11. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 16 December 2019 16: 20
                        -1
                        Quote: bk316
                        In the context of this article, I am against the Japanese Communists and on the side of the Russian Foreign Ministry and specifically Lavrov.
                        And imagine that if the United States makes a diplomatic "feint" and agrees to leave the American military bases in Japan - it is clear that this will be done temporarily! What should Lavrov and the Russian government do? The Russian Federation will have to hand over the Kuriles and Sakhalin to Japan.
                        And after that, the US armed forces will return to Japan!

                        This is exactly what "feint" I would do if I were the US against the Russian Federation!
                        Therefore, I have no confidence in the question of transferring the Kuril Islands to Japan on this plan to any Lavrov, Medvedev and Putin!
                        Quote: bk316
                        If in the context of the collapse of the USSR, then I’m not just against it, but I consider criminals members of the CPSU to sign the Bialowieza Agreement and the CPSU Secretary General.
                        But these are not all members of the CPSU, but only the highest party functionaries.
                        It must be borne in mind that the CPSU was internally logically contradictory and not homogeneous in its membership.

                        Andrey Fursov - Who rules the world

                        Quote: bk316
                        If we talk about the foreign policy of the Russian Federation, then I am on the side of the President of the Russian Federation.
                        If Putin does not cheat, then so will I. Only I don’t really believe him either!

                        Quote: bk316
                        If we talk about the domestic policy of the Russian Federation, I think that I should ask this question in 24 years and I promise to answer you.

                        And what is your opinion now?
                      12. bk316
                        bk316 16 December 2019 16: 42
                        +2
                        And what is your opinion now?

                        There is. It lies in the fact that the GDP is very well cleaned glade.
                        The question of who he will bring to her in 24 years.
                        I will definitely vote against the liberals.
                        And against United Russia if DAM will lead them.
                        And against the Communists, if they are led by the SJ.
                        So whatever you say, everything will be decided by the individual and not the party that is behind it ..
                      13. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 16 December 2019 16: 50
                        -1
                        Quote: bk316
                        So whatever you say, everything will be decided by the individual and not the party that is behind it ..
                        It does not happen.
                        If an individual does not have his own team to govern the country, then she has power they will intercept other persons from former parties of power or other parties and their supporters.
                        Example Zelensky. Power was seized from him by Kolomoisky (a protege of Habbad) and Avakov. Both of them created and are the managers of the Ukrainian nationalists of the same Azov.
                        Zelensky is a puppet in their hands and has no real power in Ukraine.
                        Zelensky is the NOMINAL president of Ukraine.
                      14. bk316
                        bk316 16 December 2019 17: 52
                        -2
                        If a person does not have his own team to govern the country, t

                        I am not saying that my candidate should not have his own party, I am saying that I will look at the candidate himself and not at the word that is written on the ballot (Communist Party, LDPR, United Russia). Ideas with communist oligarchs and Yabloko FSB generals do not appeal to me, otherwise it will soon come to light that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is nominated by Chubais, but from the Edra Navalny.
                      15. Edmond dantes
                        Edmond dantes 17 December 2019 09: 51
                        0
                        I'm afraid, judging by what is happening in the country, Putin is not up to 24. It will all end in 21-22.
                      16. novel66
                        novel66 15 December 2019 16: 03
                        +5
                        big ones! The party’s general line is a zigzag!
                    2. ul_vitalii
                      ul_vitalii 15 December 2019 15: 17
                      +7
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      Vital hi and where are they, normal communists ???

                      Roma, good health hi and snowy and frosty winters for our cottages. smile Yes, anywhere you can find them, who are not in their pickets, who are waiting for their retirement monthly and spit in their direction. They are not the communists and their skins are appropriate, they live under the Sherkhan. yes
                  2. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 01: 07
                    +4
                    Quote: ul_vitalii
                    japanese communists

                    what one more pseudo-communists ??? !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol
                2. Lelek
                  Lelek 15 December 2019 12: 16
                  +5
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  These are not communists, but Japanese Nazis, as in Nazi Nazi in Germany.

                  hi , Tatyana.
                  No, what are you, they are communists of only the wrong Japanese system and, following the logic, they have the wrong requirements (the vector is not the same - they would have to demand from the USA to remove all bases and settle lovers of daikon, zucchini and shiitake mushrooms on these lands), and then - three to the nose and spit saliva. bully

                  Of particular note is the last phrase - what kind of contract are we talking about? If with the Americans on an aircraft carrier, then let them demand the land in the San Francisco area.
                3. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 15 December 2019 14: 16
                  +3
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  The Japanese Communists are completely crazy and are not Communists!

                  And you and Khrushchev are not a communist and ebn is not a communist, and even labeled is not a communist. SO WHY were they the main Communists ???????
                  WE them, the people put on a post ???????
                  You asked the people ?????
                  They themselves have appointed, themselves and RESPOND to the PEOPLE.
                  YOUR party of the USSR has collapsed !!!!!!!
                  / Others at the helm NOT!
                  And do not nod about the traitors. Your portia has grown them.
                  Pavlik frost to you at the monuments
                  1. APIS
                    APIS 15 December 2019 21: 21
                    0
                    And you and Khrushchev are not a communist and ebn is not a communist, and even labeled is not a communist. SO WHY were they the main Communists ???????
                    WE them, the people put on a post ???????
                    You asked the people ?????
                    They themselves have appointed, themselves and RESPOND to the PEOPLE.
                    YOUR party of the USSR has collapsed !!!!!!!
                    / Others at the helm NOT!
                    And do not nod about the traitors. Your portia has grown them.
                    Pavlik frost to you at the monuments

                    Mindflow.
                    I remind you - the Tsar-Nakashashka proclaimed the Kuril Islands and half of Sakhalin. The communists returned.
                    Pavel Morozov, testified against an oversized peasant who once slept with his mother. To call such a creature a father is a strong exaggeration.
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                      1. APIS
                        APIS 16 December 2019 08: 35
                        -1
                        The kings created an empire.

                        If I’m talking about Ivan the Terrible, then I agree - he created an empire.
                        Under the Romanovs, this was the lot of the empresses.
                        By 1917, the Tsar Nikakashka had successfully plundered the empire in both the east and the west, and drove him into poverty.
                        Then people were found and gathered what they could.
                        Those who pro.ral the country again, in power until now. And for those who managed to glue fins, memorial alcohol centers are being built and memorial boards are being opened. And the heroic past is watered.
                    2. Edmond dantes
                      Edmond dantes 17 December 2019 09: 55
                      0
                      He did not testify against anyone; he and his brother were killed roughly speaking because of material wealth.
                4. Terenin
                  Terenin 15 December 2019 14: 17
                  +10
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  like in Hitler's national socialдists in Germany.

                  hi
                  If this letter is aboutchepyatka, then ... successful winked
                5. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 15 December 2019 16: 59
                  0
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Japanese communists

                  Too shy to ask how they differ from you? Ideology is one kind
                  "Destroy the whole world"
                  But why?
                  Well, destroyed the "MEMBERS of the KPSS" of the USSR, are you not enough ???
                  1. ul_vitalii
                    ul_vitalii 15 December 2019 17: 26
                    +8
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Japanese communists

                    Too shy to ask how they differ from you? Ideology is one kind
                    "Destroy the whole world"
                    But why?
                    Well, destroyed the "MEMBERS of the KPSS" of the USSR, are you not enough ???

                    Yeah, who was nothing, that will become everything, Tatyana is not a little to everyone. request
                  2. APIS
                    APIS 15 December 2019 21: 12
                    +1
                    Too shy to ask how they differ from you? Ideology is one kind
                    "Destroy the whole world"
                    But why?
                    Well, destroyed the "MEMBERS of the KPSS" of the USSR, are you not enough ???

                    You are a sharpie, my friend.
                    Write the entire line from "Internationale".
                6. Esaul
                  Esaul 15 December 2019 21: 08
                  +2
                  Yes, as far as I remember, the Communists just just give away their native land for nothing, for example, the same Lenin and Khrushchev gave as much land.
              2. tomket
                tomket 15 December 2019 11: 04
                +11
                Quote: Dart2027
                Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands.
                Workers of all countries unite?

                There are still questions why Stalin defeated the Commintern?)
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 15 December 2019 12: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: tomket
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands.
                  Workers of all countries unite?

                  There are still questions why Stalin defeated the Third Commintern?)

                  Good question!
                  And when Trotsky, in exile from the USSR, created "his own" Trotskyist - IV Kommintern and got to death with an ice pick on the head, then also questions "Why?" must not be!

                  REFERENCE
                  The Communist International (Comintern, III International) is an international organization uniting the communist parties of various countries in 1919-1943. According to Lenin - "the union of workers of the whole world, striving for the establishment of Soviet power in all countries." The question of the creation of the Third International arose with the outbreak of the First World War in conditions of support by the leaders of the Second International of the governments of the belligerent countries.
                  Fourth international - communist international an alternative organization to Stalinism. Based on the theoretical legacy of Leon Trotsky, its task is the implementation of the world revolution, the victory of the working class and the construction of socialism. The International was established in France in 1938 by Trotsky and his supporters, who believed that the Comintern was under the complete control of the Stalinists.
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 15 December 2019 14: 57
                    -4
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Good question!
                    And when Trotsky, in exile from the USSR, created "his own"

                    And when in a marked and ebn country they ruined where you were?
                    Did they wait for Trotsky?
                2. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 15 December 2019 12: 52
                  +3
                  Quote: tomket
                  questions why Stalin defeated the Commintern

                  I've never had.
                3. Igoresha
                  Igoresha 16 December 2019 14: 46
                  -2
                  There are still questions why Stalin defeated the Commintern?)
                  just the same out of fierce malice and human hatred. And also by agreement with the United States, which drove the landliz, without which you yourself understand
              3. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 15 December 2019 11: 09
                +6
                Are Japanese Communists Communists? No one has already blamed the top of the Communist Party for a long time, for example, what is worse than Yaprnia?
                1. Aibolit
                  Aibolit 15 December 2019 12: 58
                  +2
                  Are the Japanese Communists Communists?

                  Communists, communists ...
                  Only Japanese. Patriots love their country.
                  Communist Party on the issue of territories dryuchat since 1968 (negotiations in 1979 in Moscow did not bring any cream)
                  Spit on PDAs Since the 1950s
                  They demand that the Americans go home with their weapons.
                  ..

                  Marx and Engels said in the Communist Manifesto that workers have no homeland.
                  They only said it for other proletarians, not German
              4. lelik613
                lelik613 15 December 2019 11: 33
                +1
                Japanese Communists are Japanese Communists. Communist Party-whose Communists?
              5. sabakina
                sabakina 15 December 2019 12: 02
                +5
                Quote: Dart2027
                Japanese the communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands. Workers of all countries unite?
                These are not communists, these are Trotskyists.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 15 December 2019 12: 43
                  +6
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Japanese the communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands. Workers of all countries unite?
                  These are not communists, these are Trotskyists.

                  And not even the Trotskyists, but precisely the Japanese fascists of the national socialist spirit — the allies of the Japanese-feudal caste and the spokesmen of the petty bourgeoisie — under the guise of communists!
                  The Trotskyists were Zionists.
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 15 December 2019 14: 59
                    -6
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    The Trotskyists were Zionists.

                    Were you not tired of raving? laughing
                    Zionite state your Stalin created
                  2. Fraracol_2
                    Fraracol_2 16 December 2019 19: 33
                    0
                    I’m struggling to read you, and as if I got 80 years ago. Do you continue to rave about the Trotskyists? In such darkness and mothballs carries.
              6. Amin_vivec
                Amin_vivec 15 December 2019 12: 39
                +6
                Something tells me that the "curve path of democracy" will bring to power in Japan (not without the support of the main "democrats") only the party that will threaten Russia more strongly, break all agreements with it and lead things to war. And it seems that the Japanese communists are the best at smelling "world democratic trends"
              7. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 15 December 2019 19: 32
                -1
                Quote: Dart2027
                Workers of all countries unite?

                Yes it is necessary to ask Zyuganov.
          2. Mcar
            Mcar 15 December 2019 09: 43
            +20
            Quote: rufaqn
            The Japanese Navy is head and shoulders above the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation, and 40 tanks on YuKo is nothing at all, the Far East has nothing to defend, and you are throwing agitation here, in case of a possible conflict, not 45 will be repeated, but 1905, in a more severe version, when Russia suffered a shameful defeat due to bungling possessing a powerful fleet and army, the defeat will be Tsushima in a square, without a fleet, with a "Potemkin" army mired in ostentatious "biathlon" other army games that have nothing to do with real combat training.

            Support!

            They do not like hat-making moods at all. In the last war, we were a different formation, and a different economy, and other people. And now we are approximately at the beginning of the last century both in economics and in people, and the formation is the same. And how did the Russo-Japanese War end?

            There may not be an ammunition hunger, if anything, but we will not be able to make military equipment and other military equipment, as in the 40s. It is easy to convert a factory into a warehouse or a shopping center, but the reverse process is not so simple. In the 30s - 40s, the absolute majority of boys dreamed of becoming military men - pilots, tankmen, sailors, and simply aspired to the army. Remember the movie "Maxim Perepelitsa". And now? Someone does not know that most of the recruits are mowed down from the army? Only a year in peacetime. And they, if anything, will storm the military registration and enlistment offices, ascribe their age to get to the front?

            And I completely dislike the position of our Foreign Ministry. Some kind of negotiations ... Indistinct phrases ... An intelligible answer is such an answer, after which the beggar has nothing to beg, the desire to walk along this street disappears. Where are the notes of protest for all sorts of things such as these statements? Our diplomats forgot that the best defense is an attack? Then why does our Foreign Ministry not make territorial claims to Japan? There are reasons - Hokkaido is a Russian island. It is clear that we do not need the island, but the Japanese will have to make excuses, the game will go at their gates.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 15 December 2019 12: 21
              -1
              Quote: McAr
              And I completely dislike the position of our Foreign Ministry. Some kind of negotiations ... Slurred phrases ..

              Yes, Putin has already said, there was a howl, which is short, NO SMOKING TO ANYONE. ALL!!!!!!
              What are you all provoking !!!!!
              1. PavelM
                PavelM 15 December 2019 13: 07
                +3
                Well, thank you for “saying,” or else, from Putin, we saw a completely indistinct, but repeated mooing about adherence to the 1956 Soviet-Japanese Declaration, which provides for the transfer of two islands! Did not notice? And Lavrov clearly agreed with him in this. Or was it "Putin's cunning plan" and he hoped to fool the Japanese? It looks like Putin was ready to give up two islands. If we compare the clear, non-ambiguous statements about Crimea and the muddy fuss around the Kuril Islands, then it is VERY early to calm down. Treason comes unexpectedly.
              2. Mcar
                Mcar 15 December 2019 18: 45
                -2
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Yes, Putin has already said, there was a howl, which is short, NO SMOKING TO ANYONE. ALL!!!!!!
                What are you all provoking !!!!!

                This citizen said a lot. For example, do not raise the retirement age. I did not keep my word. And he did it petty - after the elections. If after that someone believes in the word, then why aren't you stocking up on MMM tickets?
              3. Edmond dantes
                Edmond dantes 17 December 2019 10: 00
                0
                Sorry for the button accordion, but he also talked about pensions. laughing
          3. Dart2027
            Dart2027 15 December 2019 10: 43
            +11
            Quote: rufaqn
            Japanese Navy superior to the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation

            And the strategic aviation of the Russian Federation is superior to the Japanese one.
            Quote: rufaqn
            and yes, the use of nuclear weapons will not, as you understand

            Who said that?
            1. Amin_vivec
              Amin_vivec 15 December 2019 12: 49
              +3
              I agree. What is the point of fighting the fleets, especially when ours is obviously weaker. The war will be in the rocket-aviation plane. And because of the risk that American bases in Japan bear, the war will be limited to the destruction of the Japanese fleet and some coastal infrastructure by missiles. 2-3 days and make peace.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 15 December 2019 16: 39
                0
                Our fleet has anti-ship missiles with nuclear warheads and torpedoes with similar warheads.
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 01: 17
                +4
                Quote: Amin_Vivec
                And because of the risk that American bases bear in Japan,

                Do they have immunity to ionizing radiation ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                1. Amin_vivec
                  Amin_vivec 16 December 2019 02: 03
                  -1
                  Suppose the Japanese attacked the Kuril Islands - in response, we must burn the planet in a nuclear apocalypse and perish ourselves? No, of course, to give yapes in the face, dunk them in the toilet with a samurai face, and that's enough. Yankees, and Okinawa residents held hostage - why do we need them?
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 02: 24
                    +4
                    Quote: Amin_Vivec
                    we must burn the planet in a nuclear apocalypse in response

                    noooooo .. current a little bit Japan !!! wink
                    Quote: Amin_Vivec
                    Yankees

                    finally sideways !!! recourse
                    Quote: Amin_Vivec
                    Okinawa hostages

                    It’s their own fault that slaves are in their own country !!!! negative negative negative
              3. Igoresha
                Igoresha 16 December 2019 14: 48
                +1
                no, atomic bombs need to bomb japan and right now !!! I don’t like them for a long time
          4. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 15 December 2019 10: 48
            +10
            and DV was never completely covered and protected. it is physically impossible to do. there has always been a radically different concept in the event of war. even in Soviet times. Cities like Khabarovsk or Vladik have always been called suicide cities. think why.
          5. Berkut24
            Berkut24 15 December 2019 10: 58
            +21
            Japanese Navy superior to the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation

            Sir, it’s not 1904 in the yard, and not only the fleet will decide the outcome of the war. The fleet will certainly start the war, but soldiers in the UPC will end it. Japan is just the case when it is possible to strike a retaliation and at the same time almost do not affect neighboring countries with radiation. And the neighbors of Japan certainly will not mind. So they have developed historically.
            1. Dmitry Gundorov
              Dmitry Gundorov 15 December 2019 11: 22
              -4
              What kind of nonsense about nuclear weapons, thousands of times on the site discussed this, that they used nuclear weapons in Georgia or Ukraine, maybe ISIS? Nobody will use it in Japan, the more US troops are there, and if the Japanese are intimidated by nuclear weapons, then America will gladly share a couple of B61-12 with them so that the Russians would not have such a desire, because then Vladivostok and the main base of the Navy Hey. And in general, the use of nuclear weapons in Japan is an instant sanction for those 4 ruling families who have been trying and investing their money abroad for so many years, become residents and citizens who fit into the first world, and they certainly will not allow this.
              Well, even then it’s not clear how China will behave, even though they are with the Japanese and are not close friends from the word at all, they are their Asians and carry out exercises together.
              And then you see, one kindred people decided to take the historical land and received a disproportionate blow from the northern barbarians, China may put pressure, so the east turn will be a complete profanation
              1. Berkut24
                Berkut24 15 December 2019 11: 39
                +14
                In this case, apply 100%, because we will be opposed by the country in whose territory nuclear weapons are located. In addition, there are no fools and everyone understands that the Americans are customers of the Kuril Islands. The loss of the Kuril Islands in fact will mean the loss of the Pacific Fleet and the wake of the entire Far East as a whole. Therefore, no one will stand on ceremony.
                We still have a problem with Kaliningrad, so I’m sure that the country's leadership, using the example of Japan with American bases, will be forced to demonstrate that we are ready to act.
                But the fact that the Americans will be forced to swallow their losses in this case - I have no doubt. Until now, they don’t need the Great War with Russia.
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              2. Dart2027
                Dart2027 15 December 2019 12: 56
                +2
                Quote: Dmitry Gundorov
                thousand times on the site discussed this

                Who! Putin and Shoigu?
            2. Grits
              Grits 15 December 2019 14: 48
              +5
              Quote: Berkut24
              And the neighbors of Japan certainly will not mind. So they have developed historically.

              The Chinese, the Filipinos, the Koreans (moreover from both Koreas) will be keen to kick the dying Japan. And she will die completely. And do not even use nuclear weapons. The use of conventional rockets is enough. True ... in nuclear power plants
          6. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 15 December 2019 11: 22
            +3
            Quote: rufaqn
            clean your photo

            Yes, as a thread sorted out without unnecessary freshmen, yeah. The main thing is that phrases are worse, more hysterical to throw. For a day in the skull - a talking result. negative
          7. Alex DHG
            Alex DHG 15 December 2019 11: 33
            -1
            Shaeef, u prapalo !!! All on the Maidan!

            Ps: please do not write nonsense about those that you absolutely do not understand.
          8. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 15 December 2019 12: 17
            0
            ALARMIST!!!!!!
            To the rear, wash the underpants !!!!!!
            RUSSIA is not one South Caucasus. The Strategic Missile Forces will not poke around in the nose !!!!!! A PAIR of "Topol" and your beloved Japan together with its COMMUNISTS will be where they should be.
            Alarmists can join them
            1. rufaqn
              rufaqn 15 December 2019 12: 31
              -5
              So far, that the Topol launch is replacing the salvo launches of the caps of the bastards from your friendly team. Do you even have partitions between tables in your office? or are you freelancing at home?
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 15 December 2019 14: 22
                +2
                Quote: rufaqn
                So far, that the launches of Topol are replacing volley launches of caps

                Yes, therefore, no one jerks laughing
                And God forbid you to see the combat launch.
                And you sit and quack "everything is gone, everything is gone"
                You won't get into the "peacemaker" laughing
              2. D16
                D16 15 December 2019 14: 39
                +1
                So far, none of the Japanese Communists came to the Kuril Islands without a tourist visa. When they arrive, there will be something to shake the air about. In the meantime, it's just chatter. Come and get it or what about the classics? laughing
          9. Terenin
            Terenin 15 December 2019 14: 35
            +6
            Quote: rufaqn
            so that take away your photo and not pulling the glory of our ancestors!

            It is impossible to drag "glory" No. , but here’s another time to remind us that we are the grandchildren of the Winners, and to give a reason to scream (grunt) in hysteria to the Anglo-Saxons and company ... it will not hurt yes .
            Quote: rufaqn
            with the "Potemkin" army "mired in ostentatious" biathlon "

            Let the adversaries still try to get to our Army biathlon, using their equipment, without breakdowns ... winked
          10. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 15 December 2019 14: 49
            0
            Judging by your presentation, you can see a more creative, non-trivial approach to the formation of topics in training manuals, brave to the State Department.
            1. rufaqn
              rufaqn 15 December 2019 15: 08
              -6
              you probably have neither a training manual nor an opportunity to think, everything that does not fall under your cliche, you consider intrigues, the State Department however, there are doubts that the State Department knows about the existence of a site now little-visited to write manuals for it
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 December 2019 02: 43
                0
                Quote: rufaqn
                however, there are doubts that the Department of State knows about the existence of a site that is now little visited, in order to write manuals for it

                Trump knows exactly about our site. Like his assistants.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 16 December 2019 02: 47
                  -2
                  Let him write and read ...
          11. NEXUS
            NEXUS 15 December 2019 15: 20
            +1
            Quote: rufaqn
            The Japanese Navy surpasses the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation by its head, and 40 tanks in the South Caucasus are nothing at all, the Far East has nothing to protect at all, and here you are throwing agitation

            I agree about the agitation ... I myself don’t like it. But ... do not even exaggerate. To transfer additional forces to that direction in the form of Balls, Bastions, Iskanders and so on is not a long matter. At the same time, the Japanese have a fresh memory of Hiroshima, and I don’t think that they really want, with all their might of the Navy, to send Iskander missiles with special warheads to their cities. Therefore, only a repulsed thug can fight a nuclear power.
            As for the St. George ribbon, the Mausoleum, and the Victory Parade, I agree with you. Even the procession of the Immortal regiment with photos of the dead, deceased and missing is like some kind of fun festivities, although the meaning of the Immortal regiment is to remember and honor, and not walk along the streets with balls for funny songs.
            In general, lately I've been catching myself thinking that something is wrong with our helmsmen and their policies. Like in some looking glass. Putin proudly says that it is unacceptable to forget the Second World War, that history cannot be forgotten, but bashfully shut the Mausoleum with plywood, while pathosly building Yeltsin centers in memory of the man who sold and betrayed the country and people. The helmsmen speak of the Russian world, but Chubais, Kudrin, and others like them are sitting at the feeding trough. The oligarchs build yachts for several billion dollars, and the power is won back by retirees.
            It is called art and creativity bad taste and unbridledness, which is driven into the heads of young people with a hammer. There is no ideology, patriotic education. Yes, and the very concept of Patriotism has become more abusive. And against this background, people perverted by this mess appeared in the form of cheers and patriots (all new words are not from history).
            As for Japan, it’s not ordinary people who catch up with this militarist race, but the helmsmen. And the people for them are just bargaining chips in their parties, which they have been leading for hundreds of years. It is not the rich who fight in the trenches who are fighting, but ordinary people and they are dying. I recall the words from the Hollywood movie Troy, it would be nice if the kings fought among themselves ... that would be fun.
          12. Oleg (Kharkov)
            Oleg (Kharkov) 15 December 2019 16: 14
            -5
            Quote: rufaqn
            meanwhile, the Moscow Region is building the Temple in full at Patriot Park instead of ships, and the Great Victory Day was turned into a kind of Brazilian carnival, THE RED STAR, AND THE GEORGIAN TAPE MANDATED

            and all because 1991 became for the USSR what 1945 for the Third Reich. Only Germany recovered after a quarter of a century, and the Russian Federation is slowly drowning. Alas.
            1. rufaqn
              rufaqn 15 December 2019 16: 50
              -4
              I agree, but Hope dies last, maybe there is still a chance?
              1. Oleg (Kharkov)
                Oleg (Kharkov) 15 December 2019 16: 57
                -3
                God grant. But you need to remember that the Olmecs, Atsets, Incas, Persian, Macedonian, Roman, Mongol empires, Ancient Egypt, Harappan civilization, Hittites, Sumerians ... They were great civilizations. Where are they?
                My opinion is that the Russian Federation will live without the Kuril Islands. In 1917, a miserable fragment remained from the Russian Empire, but that did not stop getting on its feet ... But the current demographic civilization, the propaganda of narcissism, instagram, childfree, etc. are really a threat.
                1. rufaqn
                  rufaqn 15 December 2019 17: 05
                  0
                  No, it will not live, after the Crimea, any "controversial" territory is the cornerstone of the foundation, take it out, and the structure will collapse.
                2. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 15 December 2019 17: 38
                  +3
                  Quote: Oleg (Kharkov)
                  My opinion is that the Russian Federation will live without the Kuril Islands.

                  Better if she lives without anything else.
                  “And we will act differently, leave the final, and remove Bolshakova”
                  (Stalin)
          13. Vadim237
            Vadim237 15 December 2019 16: 36
            +3
            Strategic aviation - 800 cruise missiles will be sent there in the event of a conflict; the Japanese fleet, in addition to anti-ship missiles Harpoon and their anti-ship missiles, have no other strike weapons.
          14. DPN
            DPN 15 December 2019 18: 54
            0
            Hosh or hosh here will not do without the Soviet Nuclear Shield and cannons with tanks will not go into business, these are not the times of Damansky ISLAND there are multiple launch rocket systems, here is BURATINO or NUCLEUS.
          15. orionvitt
            orionvitt 15 December 2019 20: 12
            +1
            Quote: rufaqn
            Japanese Navy superior to the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation

            Let them put their fleet in one place. And the second Hiroshima, this time in Tokyo, they do not want? To threaten a nuclear power is just an idle talk. They wanted to cancel the contract, let them try.
          16. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 01: 01
            +3
            Quote: rufaqn
            in case of a potential conflict

            you, as a "great strategist", will be sent closer to those edges in order to once again experience the effects of all the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion on an unhealthy organism !!! wink wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
          17. Plate
            Plate 16 December 2019 15: 09
            +1
            Japanese Navy superior to the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation
            And why should there be a purely naval battle in the coastal zone, where only fleets will be measured? Now, 1905, which you did not name: there are aerospace forces and missile forces. Moreover, the latter have not only nuclear weapons, of which you said no use (I agree with this, no one will use this because of the islands), but also non-nuclear warheads that are quite suitable for use on objects of the Japanese armed forces. If you go down to the details, then, to take the island, it is necessary to bring the landing to it. And since we were talking about missiles, this landing force must survive their impact.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 15 December 2019 09: 25
          +1
          Quote: Spartanez300
          What did you decide to eat with Russia for these islands?

          Do not write nonsense
        3. NordUral
          NordUral 15 December 2019 10: 00
          +7
          Victor! There is no need for such capricious statements. Thanks to the more than 35-year-old acts of the restructuring power-engineers and their followers, Russia no longer has the Armed Forces, Aviation and Navy even approximately equivalent to what the Union possessed.
          THESE that Moscow will surrender everything and we need to do everything to remove traitors and thieves from power in the elections, I repeat, in elections of all levels.
          Until they transferred 100% control of Russia and its residual economy to the West.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 15 December 2019 10: 44
            +4
            and you want, like in the Union, to maintain a 5 millionth army or something?) For many years I tried to understand why even then it was financed because it is not just expensive but insanely expensive. it's hundreds of yards of American presidents. even at prices 30 years ago.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 15 December 2019 10: 53
              +5
              Dmitry, why distort so? Today it is necessary to maintain the Armed Forces, just about the same as we are shown on TV, but not in scanty quantities or mock-ups, but in really necessary quantities.
              And due to what the Union could arm itself like that - the answer is simple - the PLANNED SOCIALIST ECONOMY, even with all the mistakes of the country's leadership and its imperfection, allowed this. Well, we who lived then could not live better than we lived (although we did not live in poverty, as the mourners describe to us). And also a high level of education and science in the country at all levels.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 15 December 2019 11: 02
                +7
                in any economy, the maintenance of a similar-sized army is a wild strain. and I have reduced it many times. It's not about education or science at all. the matter is the maintenance of 5 million healthy men. Now the army is just balanced in terms of both numbers and capabilities. I don’t distort at all.
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 15 December 2019 11: 20
                  0
                  Your right to think so. And I would very much like to believe in such, but the facts are stubborn things. And yet - it’s not a matter of quantity, but a reasonable combination of quantity and quality.
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 15 December 2019 12: 02
                    +3
                    exactly what is reasonable. I had nothing else in mind.
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 15 December 2019 13: 22
                      0
                      But now it’s clearly unreasonable in terms of possible threats.
                  2. D16
                    D16 15 December 2019 14: 45
                    +3
                    You can facts. And then I read one nonsense from you.
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 15 December 2019 15: 00
                      -1
                      Only one piece for those who can read and think, D16 .
                      https://army-news.ru/2011/03/sootnoshenie-sil/
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 15: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: NordUral
                        one piece for those who can read and think

                        From the "snippet":

                        If they want to capture Sakhalin, they will. They will try to destroy most of the ships and infrastructure of the Pacific Fleet. Then, with the support of the United States and the international community, they will demand peace, returning Sakhalin, but solving the problem of the Northern territories. The Armed Forces of Russia do not even have time to “wake up” properly, as the war ends. This is the most affordable option.

                        From the Military Doctrine of the Russian Federation:

                        27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is threatened

                        That's just - for those who can read and think. The Japanese know how, the author of the "fragment" is definitely not, you are still in doubt wink
                      2. NordUral
                        NordUral 15 December 2019 15: 22
                        -2
                        What a joy it is to be in paradise (and I won’t get there because of the harmful, creepy and unyielding nature), Golovan!
                      3. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 15: 24
                        +3
                        Quote: NordUral
                        What a joy to be in paradise

                        What does this have to do with this conversation?

                        I repeat: the Japanese know how to read, and "capture Sakhalin" for sure will not climb.

                        The author of the "fragment" so dear to you, on the contrary - read can not. Well, he writes all sorts of nonsense ... and you read it, and for some reason they dragged it here...

                        Shame on you, Nordural negative
                      4. D16
                        D16 15 December 2019 15: 19
                        +2
                        Those who can read and think are simply obliged to come without a tour. visa and pick up. But for some reason they don’t come. Do not know why?
                      5. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 01: 29
                        +4
                        Quote: NordUral
                        Only one piece for those who can read and think, D16 .
                        https://army-news.ru/2011/03/sootnoshenie-sil/

                        fresher there is no newspaper ???! wassat
                      6. NordUral
                        NordUral 16 December 2019 10: 15
                        -1
                        So look, Greek, is it really difficult.
                    2. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 15: 09
                      +2
                      Quote: D16
                      I read one nonsense from you

                      Do you want to give your potato to me?


                      Inspired, sorry. Purely form of presentation laughing

                      In fact - yes, I agree with you. Nordural - he knows how to ... raise dust, but put it into his eyes. More so far not seen in anything worthwhile request
                      1. NordUral
                        NordUral 15 December 2019 15: 23
                        -1
                        Do not raise dust, but indicate the problem, Golovan.
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 15: 35
                        -1
                        Quote: NordUral
                        Do not raise dust, but outline the problem

                        You yourself are a problem, Nordural. However, small and inconsequential. IMHO.
                      3. NordUral
                        NordUral 15 December 2019 16: 03
                        0
                        Do not change, Golovan, no matter how you call yourself.
                2. rufaqn
                  rufaqn 15 December 2019 11: 44
                  0
                  Straight, it is to contain 10% of the population, the so-called "elite", which consumes more than 80% of the national product, this content is many times more expensive than maintaining an army of 5 million with 20000 tanks and 3000 aircraft and helicopters, a developed fleet, and a space group, and in addition to costs , these are millions, jobs, breakthrough technologies, science, properly educated, citizens, in the end, are the true elite of society.
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 15 December 2019 11: 58
                    +2
                    you and your agitation go to another place. who you are and what you I understood yesterday.
                    1. rufaqn
                      rufaqn 15 December 2019 13: 49
                      -5
                      The parasitic rentier that yesterday, today, or tomorrow, at any place, doesn’t like when they talk about the criminal method of enriching them, about perversity, the system that gave rise to their wealth, omnipotence and permissiveness, poverty, lawlessness and humiliation of others.
                      1. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 15 December 2019 13: 50
                        +4
                        everything is simpler. you are troll. Do not look for hidden meanings when everything is much simpler.
                      2. D16
                        D16 15 December 2019 14: 50
                        +3
                        Strain, it is to contain 10% of the population, the so-called "elite", which consumes more than 80% of the national product

                        Well, call a spade a spade. And change your profile picture .. She's giving you away lol .
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 15 December 2019 11: 48
                -7
                The planned socialist economy plus the power of the Communists - this is the main mistake and the main reason for the collapse of the country.
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 15 December 2019 13: 19
                  +6
                  The planned socialist economy plus the power of the Communists - this is the main mistake
                  You can agree with you, but for the past 30 years the federal liberal economy plus the power of the BoHatykhs has been the main mistake, and I’m even afraid to say where all this leads.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 15 December 2019 13: 46
                    -3
                    No wonder: EP is the reincarnation of the CPSU. The same methods, the same manners.
                    1. Minato2020
                      Minato2020 15 December 2019 16: 58
                      +4
                      Quote: AS Ivanov.

                      EP - the reincarnation of the CPSU. The same methods, the same manners.


                      Now "The planned socialist economy plus the power of the communists"???

                      And what are the plans of the current Communists - to leave the population without sausages and toilet paper?
          2. Rzzz
            Rzzz 15 December 2019 11: 51
            +1
            Quote: NordUral
            in elections of all levels, sweep traitors and thieves out of power.

            Have you still not understood that you do not choose power in the elections, but those clowns that will be shown on TV for the next 5-6 years?

            Those who have power, they firmly sit in their places, and are not going to be replaced. And on TV they are not shown.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 15 December 2019 12: 28
              +2
              Quote: rzzz
              And on TV they are not shown.

              You too.
              But the panic "everything is gone! You create not bad
              1. Rzzz
                Rzzz 15 December 2019 14: 51
                +1
                Why show me. I’m not on Forbes’s list; I don’t greet the presidents by the handle. I go about my business and do not bother anyone. I’m not causing a panic here, but trying to help soberly understand the situation.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 15: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: rzzz
                  I’m not causing a panic here, but trying to help soberly understand the situation

                  And why did you decide that the word "soberly" somehow correlates with what you have written here? wink laughing
                  1. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 15 December 2019 16: 31
                    0
                    Well, intuition tells. And why did you decide that this is not so?
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 16: 34
                      0
                      Quote: rzzz
                      And why did you decide that this is not so?

                      I haven’t decided anything yet. But this phrase:

                      Quote: rzzz
                      you don’t choose power in the elections, but those clowns that will be shown on TV for the next 5-6 years

                      - I've already met a couple of times. In a bad context.

                      So I’m thinking now - did you come up with it yourself, on the basis of your own knowledge and experience, or was it just someone who taught you bad things? what
                      1. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 15 December 2019 17: 29
                        0
                        And where does a good context come from?
                        And why teach it. This is the majority and so it is clear if the brains at least somehow work.
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 17: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: rzzz
                        This is most understand...

                        Standard trolling approach.

                        Thank you, you understand yes
                      3. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 15 December 2019 17: 39
                        0
                        It is very good that I understand. If you do not understand something, then you can assume that you are not part of this "majority", the elite, so to speak.
                  2. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 01: 34
                    +2
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    And why did you decide that the word "soberly" somehow correlates with what you have written here?

                    patstalom !!!! laughing laughing good good good
            2. NordUral
              NordUral 15 December 2019 13: 16
              0
              No, I understood everything and understood correctly. Until we vote with the whole nation, we will endure both clowns in power and their puppeteers.
              And we will vote correctly in the presidential election, and not 25-30% of those who have (so far) the right to vote, then it will be impossible to falsify the results.
              And it is not in vain that they insistently hammered into our heads that it is useless to go to the polls.
              1. Rzzz
                Rzzz 15 December 2019 14: 53
                0
                Yes, at least all 100% will come - only the face on the TV changes, and the text of the script that he plays out will remain the same.
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 15 December 2019 15: 03
                  -1
                  You are mistaken Rzzz.
                  1. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 15 December 2019 17: 13
                    -1
                    What exactly? Explain in more detail, please.
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 15 December 2019 17: 21
                      -1
                      Yes, here it is: Yes, at least all 100% will come - only the face on the TV changes, and the text of the script that he plays out will remain the same
                      1. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 15 December 2019 17: 26
                        -1
                        Do you have reason to believe that it will be different? In practice, this is not confirmed in any country.
                      2. NordUral
                        NordUral 15 December 2019 17: 29
                        -1
                        Now yes.
              2. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 15 December 2019 15: 16
                +1
                Quote: NordUral
                No, I understood everything and understood correctly. Until we vote with all the people,

                From one candidate? laughing
                So sort of drove it laughing
                Any suggestions other than "sabchachka"?
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 15 December 2019 15: 19
                  0
                  Why from one, Sergey? 2018 - Pavel Grudinin - I voted for him. And your objection is weak, if not just false.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 15: 29
                    +2
                    Quote: NordUral
                    Pavel Grudinin - I voted for him

                    Recalled from Arkady Raikin good

                    ... they don’t tell me that I am a fool, but they say that I am morally stable

                    And Grudinin, so beloved by you, was described by Ilf and Petrov. There is such Alchen, "the blue thief".
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 15 December 2019 17: 09
                      -2
                      Golovan! To a lesser extent than most of your clients and your colleagues. Only the result of his work is a thorn in the eye of thieves' power.
                  2. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 15 December 2019 17: 05
                    +2
                    Quote: NordUral
                    Why from one, Sergey? 2018 - Pavel Grudinin - I voted for him.

                    So where is he now hiding from lawsuits?
                    "Ksyusha" 2
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 15 December 2019 17: 10
                      0
                      And he doesn’t hide, Sergei.
          3. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 15 December 2019 12: 26
            +1
            Quote: NordUral
            THESE that in Moscow they will hand over everything

            Not these passed. COMMUNISTS HANDED !!!!
            Ebn, Gorbachev, and now the Japanese Communists are singing along.
            Or will you deny them?
            But you brought up and fed both of them.
            And this is also yours
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 15 December 2019 13: 21
              +2
              I was not a communist Lipchanin... Yes, the degenerated communists surrendered, the burp of the "thawed" and those who were released by the Khrushchev.
              And about Zyuganov I have long been asserting that he has no place in the Communist Party and it is time to make way for the young.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 15 December 2019 15: 06
                0
                Quote: NordUral
                Yes, the degenerate communists surrendered

                Stalin repression. so the Khrushchev said.
                the grub is even worse, so the lamb said.
                I don’t mention three later.
                who brought up the swordfish ?????? YOUR he is blood and flesh !!!!!!
                ebn from where got out ?????
                Name not "degenerate" ?????
            2. Gardamir
              Gardamir 15 December 2019 13: 21
              +2
              Not these passed. COMMUNISTS HANDED !!!!
              ebn, gorbachev,
              Yeltsin, Putin. Or suddenly the current one is not a communist? Communist anti-Soviet, here is a thermonuclear mixture.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 15 December 2019 13: 49
                +1
                The Communist is the anti-Soviet. It was the Communists who did not allow the people elected to power. Who made decisions at all levels? Obviously not Tips.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 15 December 2019 14: 26
                  0
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  Obviously not Tips.

                  Duc in the "councils" without membership cards the way was ordered laughing
                  As in the sobering station, they didn’t take komunyak, they transported them home laughing
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 15 December 2019 19: 10
                    +1
                    Heh, we have strongly recommended the candidacy of the chairman of the village council from the district committee. Absolutely not considering the opinion of the people. That is, the communist government did not trust the people.
                2. NordUral
                  NordUral 15 December 2019 15: 07
                  +3
                  Those communists, Andrei, who pretended to be them, but were not in essence. Those who replaced the real ones who died in the war and from the wounds of the war. Those who were "thawed out" by Khrushchev, Zapadenskie Bandera, who crawled under Khrushchev with his help into the leadership of the party.
                  1. Edik
                    Edik 16 December 2019 07: 45
                    +3
                    Quote: NordUral
                    Those communists, Andrei, who pretended to be them, but were not in fact

                    I’ll tell you more, there may still have been ideological places, but the higher the more they pretended!
                3. Karen
                  Karen 15 December 2019 17: 31
                  +1
                  I will add ... I read in a book that in 1928. Professor of the Red Professura LITVINOV told the audience there: "The party is a herd of sheep ..."
                  1. NordUral
                    NordUral 16 December 2019 10: 13
                    +1
                    That is why Stalin also cleaned it out (what a good last name in dozens of Russian surnames and names in the leadership of the Bolsheviks and the government of the country until the end of the 30s), among others who wanted Zionism to dominate the world. I will not develop the topic.
          4. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 15 December 2019 14: 24
            +3
            Quote: NordUral
            In Russia, thanks to more than 35 years of acts of the restructuring power

            CPSU members. laughing
            Or not those "party" nominated? laughing
            THERE IS AN ARMY and you are liberal, well, never, NEVER ruin it !!!
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 16 December 2019 09: 50
              0
              Lipchanin! Liberast under the red banner with a portrait of Stalin?
              And then, I am not responsible for the party, I was not a communist. That you are better to Svanidze, Pivovarov and other repainted seams. Not to mention those who dug in EP.
          5. Oleg (Kharkov)
            Oleg (Kharkov) 15 December 2019 17: 01
            -1
            Quote: NordUral
            even roughly equivalent to what the Union possessed.

            and it did not save the USSR. Although, even in the ruins of the USSR of 1991-1992 there was Soviet ideology, without instograms and without "we live once - you are worth it!" no one cares now.
            In 1991, I was 10-11, I was interested in the news, sincerely resented how the Japanese want the Kuril Islands - this is part of my country! Now most young people are deeply indifferent.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 15 December 2019 17: 08
              -1
              Quote: Oleg (Kharkov)
              in the wreckage of the USSR sample 1991-1992 was Soviet ideology

              There was a bandit "ideology" there.

              Quote: Oleg (Kharkov)
              In 1991 I was 10-11

              I'm 29.

              Quote: Oleg (Kharkov)
              Now most young people are deeply indifferent

              Stop agitating. Will not bring you, my friend yes
              1. Oleg (Kharkov)
                Oleg (Kharkov) 15 December 2019 17: 09
                -1
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Stop agitating. Will not bring you, my friend

                I put you a minus, I'm sorry.
          6. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 01: 26
            +4
            Quote: NordUral
            THESE that in Moscow they will hand over everything

            what Do you want yours to be rented again, as in the late 80s ??? recourse wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 16 December 2019 10: 08
              -2
              Nikolay! I did not give up, but hoped for a renewal of the Union. And socialism, where everyone was happy with my work. But the authorities that formed in the country somewhere in the 70s didn’t like it, and therefore he was for change.
              But although I was about 40, when a frenzied attack on the Soviet Union began, I was fooled by the lie that poured on us from all the cracks, and then the crap that brought the West to us.
              Since the 90s, he has dealt with his business and was not interested in politics. A well-fed hungry one does not understand, just about me during these years. Yes, I did not even suspect what poverty millions live in, I just worked. And only after retirement did more time appear so that gradually the realization of what happened to the country and almost all of us began to come.
              And what is happening today, when the insolent thieves' power is openly spitting in our faces, when a great country not so long ago, is offended by any trash, it will make anyone talk about it. And I am not silent.
              And I urge everyone to think about the future, not their own, but children and grandchildren. These quietly take away all the social rights of the past, ruin the country, finally turning Russia into an insignificant raw materials appendage of either the West or the East. And they doom us to extinction.
        4. Azazelo
          Azazelo 15 December 2019 10: 27
          +4
          Apparently saving two atomic bombs was not enough
        5. sannyomd
          sannyomd 15 December 2019 12: 21
          0
          And even before the heap, do not forget about the American army, which is housed in Japan and which these Japans start some kind of movement for the archipelago, clearly refuse to stay away. And from here you yourself understand what will stretch.
        6. Amin_vivec
          Amin_vivec 15 December 2019 12: 32
          -1
          but you can remember what happened one war earlier ...
        7. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 00: 48
          +4
          Quote: Spartanez300
          You can recall how the last war ended for them.

          judging by the modern behavior of Nazi accomplices, they believe that they won the war !!! wassat wassat frankly, the Japs in modern times are so foolish that they deserve cruel punishment !! am am am soldier soldier soldier
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 15 December 2019 08: 17
        +3
        Quote: rufaqn
        The Russian Foreign Ministry does not agree with you, deriving the formula for a refundable return when Japan recognizes the results of the Second World War, but judging by the retreat on all fronts, they can put pressure on this position.

        In fairness, Lavrov spoke of the 1956 treaty. and the possible transfer of the two islands referred to in this treaty.
        1. Edik
          Edik 15 December 2019 08: 45
          +15
          Quote: Flood
          In fairness, Lavrov spoke of the 1956 treaty. and the possible transfer of the two islands referred to in this treaty.

          In fairness, Lavrov said that we must first conclude a peace treaty, recognize the results of the Great Patriotic War, and then we can talk about something!
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 15 December 2019 09: 10
            +4
            Quote: Edik
            In fairness, Lavrov said that we must first conclude a peace treaty, recognize the results of the Great Patriotic War, and then we can talk about something!

            What exactly do you disagree with? Did the phrase "possible transmission" bother you?
            Well, politics is the art of the possible. I did not interpret anything. I besieged the comrades who talk about the transfer of the Kuril Islands.
            Quote: https://govoritmoskva.ru/news/207040
            Russia is a successor to the Soviet Union. We have reaffirmed all those obligations of the Soviet Union and are ready to fulfill it. Including the 1956 declaration, which clearly stated that Russia and Japan are no longer at war with each other ... Based on a benevolent attitude towards Japan, taking into account the interests of the Japanese people, the Soviet Union is ready after the conclusion of a peace treaty to transfer Japan to the Habomai Islands and Shikotan as a gesture of peaceful will. It is after the conclusion of a peace treaty
            1. Edik
              Edik 15 December 2019 09: 26
              +12
              Quote: Flood
              What exactly do you disagree with? Did the phrase "possible transmission" bother you?

              Yes, that’s it! Japan is not a sovereign, but an occupied country in fact! Therefore, they won’t go to the 1956 treaty, they are the USA! Although everything in life is possible, as Lavrov said! But you don’t need to speculate on this topic. no longer seeing the advantages of this contract. hi
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 15 December 2019 09: 34
                +3
                Quote: Edik
                Yes it is!

                I might start arguing with you. Although I don’t understand what to argue about if you simply misunderstood me.
                And maybe I won’t argue.
                Perhaps you will answer me now.
                But maybe not.
                Let’s better talk about a possible third world.
                Or better - on the topic of a possible future world order.
                I hope this didn’t bother you much?
                1. Edik
                  Edik 15 December 2019 09: 40
                  +7
                  Quote: Flood
                  I hope this didn’t bother you much?

                  Well, you understand in what vein and why all this was written by rufaqn (Novicek).
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 15 December 2019 10: 17
                    +3
                    Quote: Edik
                    Well, you understand in what vein and why all this was written by rufaqn (Novicek).

                    Glad we came to an understanding.
            2. NordUral
              NordUral 15 December 2019 10: 03
              +4
              Edik! Something else was said there about the withdrawal of American bases from Japan.
            3. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 15 December 2019 11: 45
              +4
              Quote: Flood
              besieged comrades who talk about the transfer of the Kuril Islands.

              To no avail, Vladimir Ilyich, for a sect. yes There is a category of organisms that enthusiastically compensate for the lack of any information with other people's rumors and their own speculations. And such comrades are willingly manipulated by "professional" hunters, throwing them the next portions of slander, completely unsupported by facts. Yes, please, an example: tovarisch (newbie) only registered yesterday (although, perhaps, one of the shape-shifters), and already threw ... fellow Ok demon with him, he will fall off. But it’s impossible to re-educate very suspicious ones - they will change to the grave plaque. request
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 15 December 2019 12: 32
                -2
                Quote: Paranoid50
                There is a category of organisms that enthusiastically compensate for the lack of any information with other people's rumors and their own speculations.

                But the most important thing is "do not notice"
                [Quote] Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands [/ quote]
                zu apparently did not share the income laughing
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 01: 47
                +4
                Quote: Paranoid50
                and threw it already ...

                but at least you can estimate the number of inadequate (+) / adequate (-) !!! wink wassat lol lol
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 15 December 2019 15: 18
            +1
            Quote: Edik
            In fairness, Lavrov said that we must first conclude a peace treaty, recognize the results of the Great Patriotic War, and then we can talk about something!

            I refused to comment.
            But that is all good
            Well, for some reason they forget that when concluding the contract there should not be foreign bases
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 15 December 2019 12: 29
          -1
          Quote: Flood
          In fairness, Lavrov spoke of the 1956 treaty. and the possible transfer of the two islands referred to in this treaty.

          Forgot to add. With the withdrawal of American bases. And this will NEVER
      3. Edik
        Edik 15 December 2019 08: 22
        +8
        Quote: rufaqn
        The Russian Foreign Ministry does not agree with you, deriving the formula for a refundable return when Japan recognizes the results of World War II,

        Now in more detail, give the link. yes
      4. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 15 December 2019 08: 29
        +11
        what nonsense. which formula? The official position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is the full recognition of our sovereignty over the islands and only then there will be a conversation about a peace treaty. there is no other position there. Do not play with words if you do not understand the meaning.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 December 2019 09: 30
          +3
          Quote: carstorm 11
          The official position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is the full recognition of our sovereignty over the islands and only then there will be a conversation about a peace treaty.

          No peace treaties. There is an act of surrender and basta. It was better to fight, and not to shake the tongue after surrender.
      5. Edik
        Edik 15 December 2019 09: 00
        +7
        Well, from the fragrant, we will not wait for the link, the main thing is to spoil and wash off in time fellow
        Here it is: https://tass.ru/politika/7184165
        "With all due respect to the Cabinet Secretary, we are still guided by the agreements reached at the highest level between the Russian President and the Japanese Prime Minister. They agreed to move forward in discussing the problems that remain with us, based on the 1956 declaration, which clearly it is said: first we recognize the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Russia over all our lands, including these territories, thereby recognizing the results of the Second World War, and then, perhaps, everything else will be discussed. "
      6. Dart2027
        Dart2027 15 December 2019 10: 40
        +2
        Quote: rufaqn
        return formula when Japan recognizes the results of World War II

        This term, he said, has been introduced into several Japanese laws, including one that links the implementation of the agreement between Moscow and Japan on conducting joint economic activities in the Kuril Islands with the need to return the "northern territories". “No one agreed on this, and this directly contradicts your obligations under the Charter of the United Nations,” Lavrov said, answering a question from Japanese journalists.
        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/16/01/2019/5c3eeeab9a794763225e3ee3
        Are you talking about this? Something wrong, don’t you?
      7. VO3A
        VO3A 15 December 2019 10: 51
        0
        These are your conjectures! Where are the links to the documents? You can’t give even two islands! This is a loss not only of control over our sea and in general over the region. Between the islands there is a deep-sea forwarder and the only ship to leave ...
      8. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 15 December 2019 12: 12
        -1
        Quote: rufaqn
        but judging by the retreat on all fronts

        And on which FRONTS we retreat ?????
        Already run to the rear gathered ???
        The Communist Party steers across all fronts laughing
    2. Comrade
      Comrade 15 December 2019 07: 17
      +10
      Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands

      Better demand the departure of the American occupiers. The war ended 75 years ago, how many more Yankees will sit in Japan?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 07: 27
        0
        Quote: Comrade
        How many Yankees will still sit in Japan?

        But the Japanese basketball players somehow won the Olympics! laughing
      2. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 15 December 2019 08: 13
        +7
        This is how the Japanese rolled their lips in World War II.

        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 08: 16
          -2
          Quote: Spartanez300
          This is how the Japanese rolled their lips in World War II.

          Only few people know that the Japanese had a plan of war with Hitler ... yes
          1. Avior
            Avior 15 December 2019 10: 50
            +2
            Interestingly
            Excuse me, but what kind of link can you give, what kind of plan?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 10: 55
              -4
              Quote: Avior
              Interestingly
              Excuse me, but what kind of link can you give, what kind of plan?

              I read about it in Komsomolskaya Pravda, in the mid-90s. Well, since they burned their archive, I can’t give links either. Briefly, from memory, if Germany had defeated the USSR, Japan would have entered the war with them. And they had a plan of war with Germany. hi
              1. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 15 December 2019 11: 48
                +4
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                in the Komsomol in the mid-90s.

                laughing laughing laughing The most authoritative source. yes In "Komsomolskaya Pravda" from the middle
                The 90s to this day you can even read about the cannibal horse. wassat
      3. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 15 December 2019 09: 01
        -1
        It is not profitable for them. America for them is a shield, a wallet, and technology. It is foolish to refuse such a thing.
        Japan, by the way, is the only country that had every chance of getting an F-22. This is the only country whose sale has been seriously considered.
        Just as Japan needs the United States, Japan needs the United States.
        And in the end, why do people care so much about the fact that in Japan there are American bases?
        Here is not a single piece of news about Japan wherever they write about American bases.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 December 2019 09: 37
          0
          Quote: Jack O'Neill
          It is not profitable for them. America for them is a shield, a wallet, and technology. It is foolish to refuse such a thing.

          And my dear mother, who made the Meiji revolution, created a modern aristocracy, ideology and also industry and a powerful army. Japan, this is America’s app (occasionally out of control).
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 15 December 2019 10: 45
          +3
          Quote: Jack O'Neill
          And in the end, why do people care so much about the fact that in Japan there are American bases?

          Because they are aimed at us.
      4. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 15 December 2019 09: 54
        -2
        Due to the protection of American troops, technological and economic success has been achieved. Huge cost savings and the possibility of quiet development.
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 01: 58
          +4
          Quote: Fraancol_2
          Due to the protection of American troops, technological and economic success has been achieved. Huge cost savings and the possibility of quiet development.

          everything is blocked by a huge minus - the lack of sovereignty !! wink mericatos can calmly substitute these slaves with their unfinished destruction !!! wassat wassat wassat no one will then rejoice at the previous "success" !!! lol lol lol
    3. den3080
      den3080 15 December 2019 07: 20
      -2
      Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands

      so bequeathed the great Lenin ??
      Kalashnikov probably supports? Like Zelensky?
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 15 December 2019 08: 19
        +5
        Quote: den3080
        Kalashnikov probably supports? Like Zelensky?

        You at least explain what kind of Kalashnikov speech.
        And what does he have to do with Lenin and Japan.
        1. den3080
          den3080 15 December 2019 13: 19
          +1
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: den3080
          Kalashnikov probably supports? Like Zelensky?

          You at least explain what kind of Kalashnikov speech.
          And what does he have to do with Lenin and Japan.

          Lenin is the progenitor of all the communist parties in the world, all the communists follow his "covenants", regardless of skin color and eye shape, as well as the shape of the skull and hair color.
          Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov-Lenin distributed many lands of the Russian Empire. He was no longer engaged in the gathering. He just handed out. But it was thanks to his initial efforts that the subsequent gathering led to the creation of the USSR, with broad powers of supposedly independent republics, which later made it possible to practically ruin a powerful country according to the national (nationalist) scenario, as well as ruin the production, agricultural and scientific cooperation of the regions, and even international! unity of the Russian Empire under the Russian title.
          "Kalashnikov" -this is Leonid, a member of the Communist Party, often speaking. on TV. And he supports President 404 Zelensky, setting aside the "party line", that is, the Communist Party.
          1. Oleg (Kharkov)
            Oleg (Kharkov) 15 December 2019 21: 49
            -1
            Quote: den3080
            Lenin - the progenitor of all communist parties in the world

            not all Western communists consider Lenin a communist. rather, he is a social democrat.
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 15 December 2019 07: 22
      +6
      "Japanese communists" are scoundrels, discrediting communist ideas, and the word communism in general! Banal political idle talk! Although, it may be that even not only political. ...
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 15 December 2019 07: 37
        +9
        Quote: Thrifty
        "Japanese communists" are scammers who discredit communist ideas

        The Japanese have such a national pre-election promise "Let's return the Kuriles". Whoever promises more than the Kurils won. Well, then they shrug their shoulders, they say the Russians won't give it up. So we didn’t give them back to Us fool
      2. Black_Vatnik
        Black_Vatnik 15 December 2019 07: 43
        +10
        Where are the other communists now? Is Zyuganov a Communist? Could it be Chinese Xi or Ukrainian Simonenko Communists?
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 15 December 2019 09: 28
        -2
        Quote: Thrifty
        "Japanese communists" are scoundrels, discrediting communist ideas, and the word communism in general! Banal political idle talk! Although, it may be that even not only political. ...

        And what do you think should the Japanese Communists declare? The withdrawal of American troops and an alliance with Russia?
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 December 2019 09: 39
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        "Japanese communists" are scoundrels, discrediting communist ideas, and the word communism in general! Banal political idle talk! Although, it may be that even not only political. ...

        Well, our communists are modern, what are they better? The same corrupt and foul.
      5. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 15 December 2019 09: 57
        +1
        Are you not delusional? And what do you think the Japanese "communists" should be closer to Russian interests?
      6. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 15 December 2019 10: 33
        +1
        Japanese communists demanded the same in the 60-80s.
      7. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 15 December 2019 15: 32
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        "Japanese communists" are scoundrels, discrediting communist ideas, and the word communism in general!

        and why didn’t they remember the browed one who fed them?
        Or did they find a zoloto kppss for their development?
        Well, tell us about yu. America and Africa that was fed. the current word said "we go to satsilism" so there mountains of weapons.
        And the debt is not to give "BOOM"
        Well and so. What did you steer there Sverdlovsk? Non-partisan?
        Who was tagged? Whose party is the Cossack ????
        Name at least one whom your government has appointed and whom you have not crap ???
    5. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 15 December 2019 07: 41
      +3
      Yes? And in my opinion it is very much discussed. The last year and a half has been very heatedly discussed. And not only from Japan, but also from our side.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 07: 47
        +1
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        The last year and a half has been very heatedly discussed. And not only from Japan, but also from our side.

        What year and a half? Back in the mid-90s, the Japanese offered every resident of the Kuril Islands a choice: Either Japanese citizenship, or fifty thousand bucks and a ticket to the mainland. Almost agreed in the 96th year.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 December 2019 09: 45
          +3
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Or Japanese citizenship, or fifty thousand bucks and a ticket to the mainland. Almost agreed in the 96th year.

          It was like that, from my relatives living on the islands I know. If EBN still reigned for 5 years, they would have surrendered the Kuril Islands. Now doubts are being taken.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 09: 51
            +1
            50 thousand bucks in the mid-90s - a lot. It is believed that the Japanese simply did not grease anyone should.
            1. D16
              D16 15 December 2019 14: 59
              +3
              Whose opinion? Yours wassat
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 15: 08
                -1
                Quote: D16
                Whose opinion? Yours

                Not only mine. In the mid-90s, they wrote about the transfer of the Kuril Islands to the Japanese as a completely resolved case. The people wondered, for example, that a family of four could buy 200 thousand bucks. For example, a house in Crimea at that time could be bought for a little more than a thousand bucks, a three-ruble note in Moscow - for less than 10 thousand.
    6. maidan.izrailovich
      maidan.izrailovich 15 December 2019 07: 43
      +8
      Our Kuril Islands. Point. Not discussed.

      Japanese Communists (and not only) must popularly explain that Hokkaido is also Russian.
      https://nampuom-pycu.livejournal.com/281646.html
      Anyway, all the islands where the Japanese live are not their land. They massacred the local population of these Ainu islands.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 15 December 2019 08: 08
        +14
        they slaughtered the population of these islands of the Ainu----- now in St. Petersburg in the Ethnographic Museum an exhibition about these people. The exhibits provided are unique and there is nothing like it in Japan itself. The people and material evidence in Japan were destroyed. Their clothes, suits, and instruments survived thanks to Russian researchers who visited the Ainu more than 100 years ago. These people lived there for more than a thousand years, but the Japanese did not reckon with this
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 08: 29
          -1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          This people lived there for more than one thousand years, but the Japanese did not reckon with this

          Well, we also fought in the Aleutian Islands. With these ... like them ... twinkins or something ... recourse
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 December 2019 09: 51
          +3
          Quote: Reptiloid
          The people and material evidence in Japan were destroyed.

          Japan did everything to make everyone forget that this is the land of the Ainu, but they knew that it was Japanese land. All of Japan treats the Kuril Islands only as Japanese and they have been Japanese for centuries. Just like America is not a country of Indians.
        3. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 15 December 2019 11: 52
          +4
          Quote: Reptiloid
          The exhibits provided are unique and there is nothing like it in Japan itself.

          And, which is typical, Dmitry, now the Japanese tour groups are breaking into this exhibition first thing. Museum workers competently filed information, having distributed it to travel agencies. yes hi
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 15 December 2019 18: 46
            +2
            Quote: Paranoid50
            ........... And, which is characteristic, Dmitry, now the Japanese tour groups are first of all breaking into this exhibition. Museum workers competently filed information, having distributed it to travel agencies. yes hi
            This exhibition, Alexander, will end in February, after the New Year I’ll go there .... But ----- I was once a long time ago, at the beginning of the century. The Japanese kind of requested this exhibition to themselves ??
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 15 December 2019 19: 40
              +4
              Quote: Reptiloid
              The Japanese kind of requested this exhibition to themselves ??

              Duc, no wonder. Although, a little late they realized. am
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 15 December 2019 20: 21
                +2
                Ainu no longer remember their language, but they have some memories and a desire to remember their past, some processes are happening, they want to see this exhibition and learn more about themselves
                Quote: Paranoid50
                Quote: Reptiloid
                The Japanese kind of requested this exhibition to themselves ??

                Duc, no wonder. Although, a little late they realized. am
                1. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 15 December 2019 20: 26
                  +3
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  Ainu no longer remember their language

                  Those who remained in the Kuril Islands remember. And so I meant the Japanese themselves - at first they staged genocide, but now they decided to "collect stones", yeah.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 15 December 2019 21: 23
                    +2
                    Alexander, it’s not clear that now decided to pick pebbles----- request recourse They never started talking about this people, neither in the last century, nor in this. As if there were no Ainu .... Why all of a sudden?
                    1. Paranoid50
                      Paranoid50 15 December 2019 21: 44
                      +2
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      Why all of a sudden?

                      Crying samurai
                      Looking at the bloodied sword
                      So bitter

                      If only stupidly link with a new round of Japanese
                      "northern territorial" hysteria. request
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 15 December 2019 09: 31
        -3
        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        They massacred the local population of these Ainu islands.

        Logically, we’ll give the Kuriles to the Ainam,
        Sakhalin Nivham and Orokam, Primorye Udege and Nanai?
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    8. the most important
      the most important 15 December 2019 08: 47
      +6
      Quote: GKS 2111
      Our Kuril Islands. Point. Not discussed.

      There is no doubt that our islands !! But ... is that why the Japanese increased quotas for fishing in the waters of these islands and at the same time refused cash payments for these quotas? There is another pacification ?? I now think that it is necessary to pacify as Zhukov did! And everything else is a betrayal.
    9. knn54
      knn54 15 December 2019 09: 20
      +2
      This is how proverbs are born: eat the bagel yourself, and give the "hole" to the Japanese communists.
    10. Million
      Million 15 December 2019 09: 38
      +3
      It’s naive! We can think so, and these, above, all continue to discuss this issue. Apparently they are bargaining, otherwise the Kuril topic would not be mentioned anymore. The media write that even Wang predicted the transfer of the islands).
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 15 December 2019 10: 47
        +1
        Quote: Million
        Naive! This is what we can think of, and these, above, all continue the discussion of this issue.

        And you heard that.
    11. Karabin
      Karabin 15 December 2019 10: 35
      +2
      Quote: GKS 2111
      Point. Not discussed.

      Then why bargain? Ellipsis. Discussed, sometimes quite intense.
    12. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 15 December 2019 10: 55
      +1
      Do you know why the Japanese have recently been pedaling the issue of the Kuril Islands?
      Because of our dual position in the Donbass!
      Everyone must understand, this is Russian land!
      Both.
    13. Cube123
      Cube123 15 December 2019 10: 58
      0
      Quote: GKS 2111
      Our Kuril Islands. Point. Not discussed.

      No need to lose the war! Then you will not have to later discuss the justice of the CAPITULATIONS signed as a result.

      "Woe to the Vanquished"
    14. max702
      max702 15 December 2019 23: 18
      +2
      To whom, and even komunistenko should shut up and not remember the Kuril Islands .. Their leader Khrushchev merged everything and everything, and indeed nothing useful for the Russian person from these comrades has ever been absolutely categorically vice versa ..
    15. Simargl
      Simargl 16 December 2019 08: 16
      +1
      Quote: GKS 2111
      Our Kuril Islands. Point. Not discussed.
      They re-show themselves - they will whine about Hokkaido.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 15 December 2019 07: 14
    +3
    "Well, crazy, what will you take" !!!! We have no peace treaty with the Japanese! !! There is nothing to cancel! !! And, to the question of the birds, we can de facto even today after dinner bomb the Japanese islands, but we are peaceful people , Unfortunately. ...
    1. cost
      cost 15 December 2019 07: 52
      +8
      Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands

      These are still flowers
      There, the plot was more abruptly drawn by them in the Japanese parliament - MP Khodaki Maruyama suggested discussing the issue. about the “possible expediency of military seizure of territories”
      According to the Kyodo agency, they demanded that Khodaki Maruyama resign. The Prime Minister of the country, Shinzo Abe, expressed “utmost regret” regarding the statements of the deputy.
      Maruyama himself refused to surrender his mandate and stated that he did not call for a war, but only suggested that this issue be discussed hypothetically.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 15 December 2019 10: 09
        0
        Well, Hodaka clearly has a headache. As for the Japanese communists, they first need to take power in Japan into their own hands. Until the bourgeois parties win, their powers to resolve the "Kuril question" are zero. wassat
  3. Tusv
    Tusv 15 December 2019 07: 17
    +8
    I also want to demand the return of the South Sakhalin ridge, which the Japanese mistakenly call the islands: Hokkaido, Honshu, Shikoku, Kyushu
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 15 December 2019 07: 17
    0
    That is the charm of island states ... They can do anything: demonstrations, pickets, round dances ...
    But all the same, it will all be done MYSELF! On the island.
    Let them cook in their bowler hat ...
  5. andrewkor
    andrewkor 15 December 2019 07: 19
    +3
    Japanese communists are revanchists, revisionists! There are not enough epithets, their "Japanese mother" in the tail and in the mane!
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 15 December 2019 07: 30
      0
      Quote: andrewkor
      Japanese communists

      Well, if the Communists were in power in 1954, then in 2014 there would be a referendum on the accession of the Kuril Islands to Russia smile
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 15 December 2019 20: 28
      +3
      Quote: andrewkor
      Japanese Communists - Revanchists - Revisionists

      Not only Japanese. yes laughing
  6. Graz
    Graz 15 December 2019 07: 25
    +1
    we will also show off and take away hokkaido for the genocide and the complete extermination of the fraternal people of the Ainu
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 December 2019 10: 43
      0
      I think the mention of small nationalities should be left aside. We can blame the Japanese for the Ainu and the Americans for the Indians (by the way, for the most part quite satisfied with their situation), the Australians for their Aborigines, the New Zealanders for the Maori, and we can also be blamed for the fact that they once annexed the territories of small ethnic groups.
      1. Kondratko
        Kondratko 15 December 2019 11: 38
        +1
        Quote: Sergej1972
        and we, too, can be blamed for the fact that once the territories of small nationalities were annexed.

        However, we did not remove scalps from them ... In the Kemerovo region, Shors still live, which can be counted on the fingers, in their lands. Today, the small nationalities of Russia are not even attracted to military service, but what about theirs (?). I believe that there is nothing special to blame us for, the annexation of territories to the Russian Empire took place without genocide, as some now very democratic countries / nations have liked to do.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 15 December 2019 11: 58
        +2
        Quote: Sergej1972
        for the fact that once annexed the territory of small nationalities.

        Perhaps you should not juggle. Not a single nation has ceased to exist during its presence in the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR and the Russian Federation. There was everything, but no genocide, as maybe someone wanted. And yes, some were completely pulled out of the Middle Ages, and even from the Stone Age. And also, some quickly forgot about it.
  7. tracer
    tracer 15 December 2019 07: 27
    +2
    And they are evil good at Toyota. Their economy has been falling for the second decade and, strangely enough, this coincides with the growth of China's industry. PARADOX! The thing is that the owner appointed China to be the main producer of everything and everyone, and it seems that the Japs are going to be "drained".
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 07: 38
      +1
      Quote: tracer
      The thing is that the owner appointed China to be the main producer of everything and everyone, and the Japs seem to be "draining" together.

      Not at all. Remember the island shooting? The Chinese went on strike in Japanese factories. It got to the comical, on Toyota they pasted the inscriptions: "Japanese car, Chinese soul." Japanese cars were thrown with cobblestones.
    2. Fat
      Fat 15 December 2019 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: tracer
      And they are evil good at Toyota. Their economy has been falling for the second decade and, strangely enough, this coincides with the growth of China's industry. PARADOX! The thing is that the owner appointed China to be the main producer of everything and everyone, and it seems that the Japs are going to be "drained".

      The West merged Japan back in 1985 (Plaza agreement) by limiting Japanese exports at the expense of the yen.
      Then Korea and China got the opportunity
      And Japan's GDP fell from 6 to 1%
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 December 2019 16: 57
      +1
      They have not only the economy falling, but also the birth rate, as well as the number of suicides is growing and deaths from "burnout" at work, the state share has already exceeded 270% of GDP.
      1. tracer
        tracer 15 December 2019 17: 05
        +1
        The Japanese do not like all the neighbors and not casual. There is a reason. I will not delve into history now. In addition to V.O. there were wonderful articles about the culture and history of Japan. Very informative and superbly written. Burnout at work is a modern form of feudalism when the feudal lord (firm or company) was nobody and was not limited by anything. A sort of modern feudalism, even without monotheism in culture and history. The brutality of the Japanese is also well known.
  8. Errr
    Errr 15 December 2019 07: 34
    +1
    These criticized the idea of ​​Japanese Prime Minister Sjo Abz about negotiations with Russia on the return of the two islands of the southern Kuril Islands to Japan and proposed to negotiate, claiming that all the Kuril Islands are Japanese territory.
    Does this communist need peace? I mean - the whole world? wassat wassat wassat
  9. Amateur
    Amateur 15 December 2019 07: 35
    +4
    Chairman of the opposition Communist Party of Japan, Kazuo Shi.

    In Russia, grandfather Zyu also says a lot. In old age it happens. Just such speeches should be treated accordingly. The electorate is the same everywhere. He (the electorate) has a lot to promise. Otherwise, you will not get into the deputies.
  10. thinker
    thinker 15 December 2019 07: 37
    0
    called for the cancellation of the San Francisco Peace Treaty

    Someone, somewhere, studied poorly yes
    Representatives of the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia and Poland participating in the conference, refused to sign it... as a result of which the final ownership of South Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands was not determined by the San Francisco Treaty.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 December 2019 10: 47
      0
      But the Americans never supported the claims of some Japanese politicians on South Sakhalin and the northern and central parts of the Kuril Islands.
  11. svp67
    svp67 15 December 2019 07: 39
    +4
    Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands
    Well done, and Russia needs to demand the return of ALL funds allocated to these "communists" during the Soviet era, as the legal successor of the Union
  12. mechanic
    mechanic 15 December 2019 07: 43
    +2
    Every Pacific cod knows that the guiding Marxist-Leninist teaching, frozen in the revisionist dogmas of the childishly stupid Japanese comrades, can lead to the abyss of geographical absurdities and subsequent catastrophic events! This is about how to bark BANZAI without the appropriate equipment at the bottom of the cozy Mariana Trench)
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 07: 53
      0
      Quote: mechanic
      Every pacific cod

      As our fishermen were broadcasting: "There is no fish, only cod!" My dad was fishing in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk in the 70s, he told how he fought with the Japanese. From the rocket launchers. sad
  13. Aliken
    Aliken 15 December 2019 07: 48
    +1
    Demand, of course, you need to do something, but here you can demand a century.
  14. 1536
    1536 15 December 2019 07: 54
    0
    Here are the flowers. Of course, in Russia, the decision of the "communists of Japan" can find understanding, especially in well-known circles who support the criminal decisions of Khrushchev and Co., adopted in the early 1950s. By the way, was Khrushchev a communist, if he was, then Japanese? ..
    The Kuril Islands are Russian land. And let the modern "communists" forget that all the land is "common" - today is Russian, and tomorrow is Japanese, who will pay more.
  15. mechanic
    mechanic 15 December 2019 08: 05
    -2
    Quote: 1536
    By the way, was Khrushchev a communist?

    Like any ragul who dodged to the plentiful TsKovskoy feeding trough, the cunning asshole Nikita Sergeevich was a successfully masked Bandera Trotskyist under the blinding gaze of Comrade Stalin!
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    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 December 2019 10: 49
      +1
      Kursk ragul?))
      1. Maverick78
        Maverick78 15 December 2019 11: 15
        0
        And what, in Kursk there are no raguli?) Do you know who such raguli are? So the Lviv city called (and call) come in large numbers from the neighboring E.E.) essentially raguli - these are carriers of the farmer mentality. There are such in Kursk and in Moscow and New York.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 15 December 2019 16: 58
          0
          In short, Raguli = Bydlyatina.
  16. Basarev
    Basarev 15 December 2019 08: 06
    -1
    Is this peace treaty really needed? And without it we perfectly coexist and trade.
  17. Grif
    Grif 15 December 2019 08: 09
    +1
    Come and take
    1. mechanic
      mechanic 15 December 2019 08: 15
      -1
      Quote: Grif
      Come and take

      Well yes! And in front of the meeting delegation let a cheerful Kim with his hospitable rockets on a tray! laughing
  18. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 08: 11
    +1
    Here are Japan's mom, some stubborn ones .. Can they calm them down already?
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    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 08: 41
      0
      Quote: Starper-777
      Here are Japan's mom, some stubborn ones.

      So they are all gangsters. There is such a version, there was one bad Chinese emperor, he mocked the people with his brigade. So the people caught him, gouged out his eyes, put him on boats and gave a good kick. And so the Japanese nation appeared. laughing
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 09: 05
        +2
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        So the people caught him, gouged out his eyes, put him on boats and gave a good kick. And so the Japanese nation appeared.

        Interesting version .. lol
        In general, they already got us with this whining about the Kuril Islands ..!
        We would be glad that the Soviet troops did not land on your islet in order to finally finish off .. You had to keep the whole Army out of you in the Far East, the Germans were already looking at Moscow with binoculars ... So who, whom and what should still be called into question .. !
        Am I right Vladimir? hi
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 09: 19
          0
          Quote: Starper-777
          Am I right Vladimir?

          Uh-huh. hi And count how our army was kept in Iran, so that the Turks would not be knocked out. For a couple of months, Iran was captured.
          Quote: Starper-777
          Because of you, the whole Army had to be kept in the Far East, the Germans were already examining Moscow with binoculars ..

          All the same, well done Richard Sorge, learned the insidious plans of the Japanese militarists. fellow
          1. Starper-xnumx
            Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 09: 33
            +2
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Yeah. hi And count how our army in Iran was kept so that the Turks would not knock out. For a couple of months, Iran was captured.

            But surely Vladimir !!!! And the first deliveries went precisely through Iran by truck, when the Germans were already near Moscow and were picking up soldiers for the parade on Red Square! soldier
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            All the same, well done Richard Sorge, learned the insidious plans of the Japanese militarists.

            Well, our intelligence worked well, but Stalin, with his incredulity, almost brought the country to collapse.
            Okay, I understood in time his toast "To the Russian people!" rehabilitates him a little in our eyes .. hi
            Oh now i will get the teeth hehe heh laughing
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 09: 36
              -1
              Quote: Starper-777
              but Stalin, with his incredulity, almost brought the country to collapse.

              So after all, Sorge also called several dates of the beginning of the war. And Stalin, he is so ... incredulous ... winked
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 15 December 2019 09: 56
                +2
                So besides Sorge and others called different dates that contradict. Everyone knew about the war, what the films, songs were talking about, and even on paper money there were corresponding drawings. There was an article and a photo of money, remember, Vladimir?
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 10: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  There was an article and a photo of the money,

                  Oh, reminded. The Germans printed counterfeit tons of money. Counterfeiters and artists from all over the world under the supervision of the SS men worked hard. It was printed and scrolled in the washing drums. Only our artist managed to draw one line on the stamp incorrectly, but they did not notice.
                  1. Starper-xnumx
                    Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 10: 42
                    +2
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    It was printed and scrolled in the washing drums. Only our artist managed to draw one line on the stamp incorrectly, but they did not notice.

                    And the paper clips in their documents were made of stainless steel and square nails on boots
                    The saboteurs of the Germans worked clearly nevertheless and even in the deep rear .. hi
                    Here is a Soviet film, just like now time .. Oh Russia.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 10: 46
                      0
                      Quote: Starper-777
                      And the paper clips in their documents were stainless steel

                      So they did not understand that paper clips can be made with iron. crying
                      1. Starper-xnumx
                        Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 11: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        So they did not understand that paper clips can be made with iron

                        And on this many were burned later, only they managed to do colossal harm .. soldier
                        Well, are we actually talking about the Japanese here, the market is Volodya?
                        It’s hard for them to disguise themselves as Russian hehe
                        Like the Chinese laughing
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 11: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: Starper-777
                        Well, are we actually talking about the Japanese here, the market is Volodya?

                        You can and about the Japanese. Here is a tale about a Japanese ninja:
                        "A strange man, all in black, came out of the forest, let's grimace and wave our arms and legs. The sergeant gave him in the ear, which made him fumble afterwards. Therefore, we cannot deliver this language to the headquarters." Esaul of such and such a regiment. "(I forgot the names). laughing
                      3. Starper-xnumx
                        Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 12: 34
                        +3
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        You can and about the Japanese. Here is a tale about a Japanese ninja:
                        "A strange man all in black came out of the forest,

                        I remember, I remember, and this is not a bike, but an official document of that time .. heh heh
                      4. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 15 December 2019 18: 57
                        +2
                        this is not a bike, but an official document------ cool document !!!!!!
                        If stepped into the fires---- so behave yourself, bow, - yes - say hello!
                        Nefig made out, winked winked winked : winked grimacing and hissing
          2. Fat
            Fat 15 December 2019 11: 53
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            how our army was kept in Iran, so that the Turks would not be knocked out. For a couple of months, Iran was captured.

            Well, let's say, not all of Iran ... Otherwise, where would Anders with the army run away.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 15 December 2019 11: 57
              +1
              Quote: Thick
              Well, let's say, not all of Iran ...

              This was enough for the Turks to sit quietly, peacefully and calmly ...
              1. Starper-xnumx
                Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 12: 40
                +3
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Quote: Thick
                Well, let's say, not all of Iran ...

                This was enough for the Turks to sit quietly, peacefully and calmly ...

                That's right, Vladimir! .. And also the reconnaissance of the Wehrmacht. There they clearly besieged
                And even a meeting in Tehran (Stalin-Roosevelt-Cherchel) was calmly organized soldier
  19. K-50
    K-50 15 December 2019 08: 17
    +2
    To return the southern Kuril Islands to Japan, it is necessary to annul the post-war peace treaty and, in negotiations with Russia, take the position that all the Kuril Islands, including the northern islands, are Japanese territory.

    Are they in general, "communists", aware that there is no peace treaty yet? belay
    It’s hard to annul what doesn’t exist in nature !! fellow lol
    It is time.
    Can the Russian army then continue the offensive, as the successor of the Soviet Army, once the enemy decided 75 years after the defeat that he had not yet surrendered and what the hell? fellow
    What kind of nation is so fragile, they want to die ahead of time. what
    You first try to take the land from under the military bases of the pin dos niks, and then, to Russia, "roll a barrel" !!! fool
    1. Starper-xnumx
      Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 11: 23
      +1
      Quote: K-50
      Are they in general, "communists", aware that there is no peace treaty yet?

      There is an agreement on the transfer of the Kuril Islands as reparations, when Koenigsberg was transferred to the USSR and other spheres of influence of the country by the winners.
      In general, the USSR "wrote off" a lot of things, like the Winners, hoping for a similar attitude .. But alas, it didn’t work and now we are experiencing it all (how many territories have already been distributed?) All demand and demand ungrateful bastards ..! angry
  20. evgen1221
    evgen1221 15 December 2019 08: 18
    +1
    Ish why then they buzz. OK. Then provide the territory for the arrangement of the Pacific Fleet military bases on your territory on an equal footing with mattresses and on the same basis for unhindered passage of the fleet and for insurance against aggravation of cunning.
  21. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 15 December 2019 08: 25
    0
    Japan can achieve the return of the islands of the southern Kuril Islands, if negotiations are started from the position that the entire archipelago, including its northern part, is Japanese territory

    And what is this "can achieve" based on?
    I always said that the Japanese are crazy, and the "commies" there are crazy twice ...
  22. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 15 December 2019 08: 26
    +1
    Yes, apparently, it’s not important for the real Japanese Communists how to show themselves — even in the SS form, even with Goebbels’s speeches, most importantly, during the preparation for the summer Olympics, they will splash out and stay on the front pages of the media.
  23. sergo1914
    sergo1914 15 December 2019 08: 42
    0
    What is so modest? And Sakhalin with Kamchatka?
  24. cniza
    cniza 15 December 2019 08: 43
    +2
    Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands


    And I thought that they were banned in Japan, also decided to promote.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 16 December 2019 02: 12
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands


      And I thought that they were banned in Japan, also decided to promote.

      Nazi "communists" are allowed !!! wink wassat wassat
  25. Voyager
    Voyager 15 December 2019 08: 49
    0
    This is actually a great offer from the Japanese. If their official authorities begin to adhere to it, then this reduces the risk of our agreement with them providing for the transfer of some of the islands)
  26. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 15 December 2019 08: 50
    +1
    Are there Communists in Japan ?!
    Century live and be surprised!
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 December 2019 10: 55
      +2
      There is a Communist Party, and quite strong. They have it with a nationalistic bias. On the South Kuril issue, the positions of the Communists are aligned with the position of ultra-right nationalists. Moreover, it was such in the 60-80s.
  27. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 15 December 2019 09: 00
    +1
    Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands

    They will demand, but who will give them?
    But, in general, we can say that the transformation of communist goals into transnational anti-Russian is happening at an alarming rate. They would care about the environment after the accident at the nuclear power plant, remove extraneous American objects from their own (for now !!!) territory and eat less whale meat ... You look, and people would become kinder to them ... stop
    ONLY WITHIN THE GENERAL ACCESSIBILITY ...
    hi
    PS
    Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russian sovereignty over the Kuril Islands is undeniable, and Tokyo, in order to continue negotiations on a peace treaty, must recognize the outcome of World War II and the ownership of the Russian islands.

    ... it’s time for the Japanese Communists to catch encephalitis ticks in Siberia and the Far East - there will be more benefits, and not as harmful to health as continuing to scare Russia with the return of the Kuril Islands ... lol
  28. georggy
    georggy 15 December 2019 09: 15
    +1
    And we will demand that the Japs return Hokaido to us
  29. Kelwin
    Kelwin 15 December 2019 09: 17
    +2
    It is necessary to rectify this injustice and annul the peace treaty

    Is there enough health? See that for Detachment 731 they don’t ask, is there five megatons enough for the sakura to light up in the night?
  30. Moskovit
    Moskovit 15 December 2019 09: 23
    +5
    Japanese communists have been demanding this since the 60s. Why dug up this old slogan? They quarreled with Soviet and Russian communists for a long time. They also fought with the Chinese. The collapse of the USSR was greeted with great joy.
    But these are not marginalized people, there are many of them at all levels of government and they are steadily gaining 7-10% in parliamentary elections. The Japanese Communists have the most women among all parties. Therefore, their views on foreign policy are very bizarre:

    The party stands for the rejection of the San Francisco Peace Treaty and the withdrawal of US troops from Japan, for the preservation of the constitutional ban on waging war, for the implementation of the Kyoto Protocol. The CPJ is the only party represented in parliament, which demands the return of not only the South, but also the northern Kuril Islands to Japan.

    Since its inception, the CPJ has traditionally advocated the establishment of a republican form of government in Japan. However, in our time, the party recognizes the emperor as the head of the Japanese state, but only nominal, and even stated that if it came to power, it would not ask the emperor to abdicate the throne. At the same time, the party opposes the use by Japan of the current national flag and anthem, which it considers as a relic of the country's militaristic past. 

    They also fight for the environment, the ban on nuclear energy, and women's rights. In general, for all the good, against all the bad.
  31. prior
    prior 15 December 2019 09: 24
    +3
    Japanese. You have already experienced one Hiroshima.
    Why the hell do you need a second?
  32. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 09: 45
    +2
    Something was remembered (someone’s memoirs) ... After all, EBN was already ready to hand over the Kuril Islands to the Japanese and was going to visit there, but thank God it started to swell and somehow forgot everything .. Rather, it all helped to forget, otherwise the riot would have started. angry
  33. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 15 December 2019 09: 46
    +5
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Reptiloid
    This people lived there for more than one thousand years, but the Japanese did not reckon with this

    Well, we also fought in the Aleutian Islands. With these ... like them ... twinkins or something ... recourse

    Tlingit----- this is the name of the people. Our many fought with whom, but did not set the task of exterminating to zero. And the Tlingits are both in Alaska and Canada.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 December 2019 10: 59
      -1
      Strictly speaking, the Japanese Ainu did not destroy to zero.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 15 December 2019 12: 01
        +3
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Ainu are not exterminated to zero.

        Yeah, before the stat. inaccuracies. am
    2. Starper-xnumx
      Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 11: 33
      -1
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Our fought a lot with anyone, but did not set the task of exterminating to zero

      So then, and even vice versa, almost the last shirt for them was removed by friendship hehe ..
      Now, again, many have begun to seek friendship with Russia, but we are not the same now .. Enough of help has already been enough!
      We know how to fight and create modern weapons .. But there will be no freebies .. hi
  34. notingem
    notingem 15 December 2019 10: 01
    0
    But they do not want the Korean Peninsula and northeast China. It’s strange. And why ?
  35. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 December 2019 10: 07
    0
    Take any position, even stand up with cancer, the Kuril Islands - this is Russia and the point.
  36. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 December 2019 10: 22
    0
    laughing"It is necessary to correct this injustice and annul the peace treaty, which recognizes the abandonment of the Tishima archipelago (Kuril archipelago - approx.). Japan can achieve the return of the islands of the southern part of the Kuril Islands, if negotiations are started from the position that the entire archipelago, including its northern part, is Japanese territory "Does it even exist? laughing
  37. igorlvov
    igorlvov 15 December 2019 10: 26
    +3
    somehow it is not otherwise
    1. Strashila
      Strashila 15 December 2019 11: 01
      0
      so it is necessary further
      California - Russia
      Hawaii - Russia.
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 15 December 2019 11: 39
        +2
        Quote: Strashila
        so it is necessary further
        California - Russia
        Hawaii - Russia.

        We are satisfied with Kiev and Alaska, for starters .. hehe
  38. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 December 2019 10: 37
    +4
    To return the southern Kuril Islands of Japan, it is necessary to annul the post-war peace treaty

    Someone, explain to this representative of the "Pepsi generation" that there is no peace treaty between the Russian Federation and Japan.
    In fact, there are 2 large documents regulating the post-war territories of Japan. This is the Surrender Act, which clearly states that Japanese sovereignty is limited to the islands of Honshu, Kyushu, Shikoku and Hokkaido, as well as the smaller islands of the Japanese archipelago. The islands of Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan and Habomai departed to the Soviet Union. And the peace treaty, signed at the San Francisco Conference in 1955, but it did not clearly indicate that the Kuril Islands belong to the USSR, so the USSR did not sign this agreement.
    Accordingly, there is no sense in canceling the existing peace treaty (with other countries, not with the Russian Federation) - not only does it not regulate relations with us, it does not affirm our right to the Kuril Islands.
    It turns out that this Japanese came ... eeeee ... alternatively gifted, offers no less, but annul the Act of unconditional surrender of Japan. fool Do you need to explain the consequences of this step? :) He wants to return to the state of war with the USA and the Russian Federation, which is the successor of the USSR? laughing
  39. Sitearvi
    Sitearvi 15 December 2019 10: 46
    0
    "Japanese Communists will demand the return of all the Kuril Islands"

    They were late for at least 30 years, when the communists in power had to demand, they could have presented. Today, Russia is not involved in charity work.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 December 2019 18: 28
      0
      So the Japanese Communists, 30 and 40 years ago, demanded this. They were not particularly great friends of the CPSU and the USSR.
      1. Sitearvi
        Sitearvi 15 December 2019 19: 36
        0
        Well now what to do, died so dead.
  40. Strashila
    Strashila 15 December 2019 10: 58
    0
    "that all the Kurils, including the northern islands, are Japanese territory," but no question, we agree that all the Kuriles, including the southern islands (in particular about Hokkaido), are Russian territory.
  41. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 15 December 2019 11: 11
    0
    Japan may achieve the return of the islands of the southern Kuril Islands

    Japan may try to achieve, this has already happened in history, after which the Japanese are not free to dispose of even their rest.
  42. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 15 December 2019 11: 24
    0
    Now the main thing: that the Japanese Communists do not come to power. To prevent the Socialist Revolution in Japan.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 15 December 2019 11: 53
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Now the main thing: that the Japanese Communists do not come to power. To prevent the Socialist Revolution in Japan.

      And what will happen if they come? Nothing will change. It will also be tedious to tryndet about the islands, as well as the current government
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 15 December 2019 12: 05
        -4
        Forgot Lenin? Not only did he tryndel, but he made such a mess that for 70 years the world had been sowing.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 December 2019 12: 57
          +4
          The world hasn’t dished anything for 70 years, no fantasies needed :)
  43. Monar
    Monar 15 December 2019 11: 26
    0
    Japanese communists
    What is that?
  44. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 15 December 2019 11: 51
    +1
    Quote: Monar
    Japanese communists
    What is that?

    This is when sake with beer ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 15 December 2019 12: 09
      0
      Sake also has a beer, or rather, the closest drink to it is made from rice malt instead of barley, as in ordinary beer
      hi
      1. VeteranVSSSR
        VeteranVSSSR 15 December 2019 12: 28
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        Quote: Avior
        Sake also has a beer, or rather, the closest drink to it is made from rice malt instead of barley, as in ordinary beer
        hi

        Shochu with beer (with sake). Are you satisfied?
        1. Avior
          Avior 15 December 2019 12: 50
          0
          Another thing drinks
          An old saying goes:
          Shochu without sake - money down the drain smile
  45. Piramidon
    Piramidon 15 December 2019 11: 51
    0
    This statement was made by the chairman of the opposition Communist Party of Japan, Kazuo Shii.

    Obviously working for the public, gaining "votes" for the elections
  46. Evil 55
    Evil 55 15 December 2019 11: 58
    0
    It is necessary to move the area of ​​the fall of the head of ballistic missiles from Kamchatka somewhere closer to Japan .. Let them get used to it ..
  47. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 15 December 2019 12: 00
    0
    Everything in the Japanese, as it is now called "with peculiarities", now, now I am convinced that they have the same "communism"
  48. ustas-oto
    ustas-oto 15 December 2019 12: 16
    -1
    Before demanding anything from the Russian Federation, the Japanese Communists must have strong arguments (a strong army, allies, economy), the agreement of 1875 is ridiculous. The Japanese have a good fleet, allies of the United States, with the economy this is a question (not everything is decided by America) . The Japanese have territorial claims not only to Russia but also to China and South Korea.
    The Japanese have a tradition on the day of the American bombardment of Herasimu and Nagasaki, they beat a huge bell remembering the dead (a good tradition, only they forget why they beat this bell.
    I would like to remind the Japanese of the military doctrine of the Russian Federation on the integrity of the state and the protection of its territories. We are able to change the place and time of Japanese traditions.
    The Japanese need less to drink sake.
  49. 22 dmdc
    22 dmdc 15 December 2019 12: 19
    +1
    Quote: Rusfaner
    Are there Communists in Japan ?!
    Century live and be surprised!

    What about hakamada? Did not hear?
  50. herev15
    herev15 15 December 2019 12: 22
    0
    Quote: Tatiana
    The Japanese Communists are completely crazy and are not Communists!
    These are not communists, but Japanese Nazis, as in Nazi Nazi in Germany.


    Yes, and your communists put candles for victory in the election or the devil knows why. So that all the evens