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In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, an object for training battles in urban conditions

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In the International Center for Peacekeeping and Security of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Lviv region, a training complex has begun functioning, which the Armed Forces themselves called “kill house”. This is described by the Ukrainian military portal.


The explanatory text notes that in the "kill house", equipped with a special coating of walls, units can conduct training to conduct fire fighting in the city, including the interior of buildings, using blank and live ammunition.

The construction of this complex was a continuation of the practice of introducing the experience of foreign colleagues in the preparation of units for fighting in the urban environment.

Behind the scenes, however, many questions remain. For example, the name "kill house" is consistent with the "center of peacekeeping." It is obviously a question of either very specific views on peacemaking, or a no less peculiar sense of humor.

The second question is why Ukraine needed the foreign experience of urban battles in the presence of its own, although not always successful. Perhaps we are talking about "approaching NATO standards."

It became known earlier that the United States will provide military assistance to Ukraine and in the 2020 year, in addition, NATO experts began to train local signalmen with modern technologies, not hiding that the goal is to achieve greater compatibility of Ukrainian means with the technology of the North Atlantic Alliance.

Photos used:
mil.in.ua
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  1. Igor Ivanov_4
    Igor Ivanov_4 12 December 2019 16: 41
    0
    Sashevsky stupid people, they teach the Veshush people how best to die when the alpha arrives!
    1. Proxima
      Proxima 12 December 2019 16: 54
      +6
      In what cities is the APU going to implement the experience gained at this complex? Not in the cities of Donbass for an hour?
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 12 December 2019 17: 00
        -2
        At the International Center for Peacekeeping and Security AFU in the Lviv region

        Westerners are preparing hehe heh Well, let's banderlog, the experience of fighting in Grozny is large, etc.
        Quote: Proxima
        In what cities is the APU going to implement experience

        In Lviv and others like that hi ..
        In Kiev, everything will happen quickly there. soldier
        1. cost
          cost 12 December 2019 19: 40
          +3
          A training complex has begun functioning at the International Center for Peacekeeping
          on fire fighting in the city

          And the site "peacemaker from the same series
          that a perverse substitution of the concepts of universal values ​​has grown in Ukraine
          1. Starper-xnumx
            Starper-xnumx 12 December 2019 20: 30
            +3
            Quote: Rich
            And the site "peacemaker from the same series
            that a perverse substitution of the concepts of universal values ​​has grown in Ukraine

            Yes, yes! we will educate according to the English system .. We will beat it painfully, but carefully .. hehe
            2014 they will be remembered for many generations .. hi
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 12 December 2019 22: 15
              +2
              Quote: Starper-777
              Yes, yes! We will educate according to the English system ..We’ll hurt, but carefully .. hehe 2014 they will be remembered for many generations .. hi

              Vital, and you really get old if you forget the classics ... wink
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 December 2019 18: 46
        0
        Quote: Proxima
        In what cities is the APU going to implement the experience gained at this complex?

        Most likely not in Donbass, and indeed outside of Ukraine, where the "big boss" orders.
  2. Zhelezyakin
    Zhelezyakin 12 December 2019 16: 44
    +7
    Knowledgeable people, explain ... Why is the butt of the butt on the shoulder, and not rested on it?
    If I understand correctly, only the first shot will be in place ...
    It was also striking how long the soldier thought, aimed, entered the room where the imaginary enemy was at three points. Oh no tenant that guy ...
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 12 December 2019 16: 50
      +8
      Quote: Zhelezyakin
      Why is the butt of the butt on the shoulder and not rested on it?

      Cyborgs. wink
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 12 December 2019 17: 02
        0
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Quote: Zhelezyakin
        Why is the butt of the butt on the shoulder and not rested on it?

        Cyborgs. wink

        In computer games have played enough and out of habit .. The shoulder will hurt in real life and a bruise will form there .. hehe
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 12 December 2019 17: 07
          0
          Vital, if you shoot solo - completely. But somehow I somehow strongly doubt that the skakuasy can be solitary.
          1. Starper-xnumx
            Starper-xnumx 12 December 2019 17: 18
            -2
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            But somehow I somehow strongly doubt that the skakuasy can be solitary.

            That's right, Pasha, the photo is very funny .. Hollywood films have seen enough hehe
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 12 December 2019 17: 23
              +3
              Movies or games - it doesn’t matter. The important thing is that there is no second life. In the case of skakuas, this is very important. It is unlikely that among them are the Duncans of MacLeod. soldier
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      2. sabakina
        sabakina 12 December 2019 22: 18
        +1
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Quote: Zhelezyakin
        Why is the butt of the butt on the shoulder and not rested on it?

        Cyborgs. wink

        laughing
    2. opus
      opus 12 December 2019 17: 38
      +4
      Quote: Zhelezyakin
      Why is the butt of the butt on the shoulder and not rested on it?

      1. shooting "for pinning" (the target is out of visual detection (it is not the accuracy that is important, but the amount of lead))

      2. Heavy equipment, including a helmet with a visor. In this case, tilt your head for aimed shooting. impossible without collimators
      like so belay
      not everyone has

      therefore, the machine is raised slightly higher, as shown in the photographs (in order not to lose stability when shooting, the lower part of the butt still rests on the shoulder, creating an additional pivot point)

      3. Do not strain the shoulder joint once again, modern systems - weak returns
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 12 December 2019 18: 12
        +3
        Anton hi
        The fighter correctly uses the grip above the shoulder if the weapon belt is fixed by a secondary hand. And in the video from ukrov, he hangs like shit in the hole. soldier
        1. opus
          opus 12 December 2019 18: 22
          -2
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          The fighter correctly uses the grip above the shoulder if the weapon belt is fixed by a secondary hand.

          honestly speaking, I myself am a deer in this (I only kept a glass with spices, and ran away in training, in order not to accidentally hit).
          But I agree. Ours look like an adult, and in the Ukrainians ... let's say this:
          in a slight surprise, and some are sleeping

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          worse (both belt and butt)
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 12 December 2019 18: 28
            +4
            By fixation, I mean the rotation of the belt around the forearm. Who in the subject understands me. soldier
            1. opus
              opus 12 December 2019 18: 57
              -1
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              By fixation, I mean the rotation of the belt around the forearm

              so?

              my opinion is no longer doing so:
              -This extra brain is very complicated (in time)
              - the return is now quite small, there is no point in fixing
              - belt around the neck, without a forearm
              - quick ability to change weapons, or free your hands


              Of course there is a need sometimes: Ares Armor Amentum LR Sling.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 12 December 2019 18: 40
      +1
      Quote: Zhelezyakin
      It was also striking how long the soldier thought, aimed, entered the room where the imaginary enemy was at three points.

      And the evil enemy is waiting for this guy to shoot him. Yes, he is the first to throw a grenade in the doorway, and there is no lad.
    4. Geo⁣
      Geo⁣ 12 December 2019 21: 29
      +2
      Quote: Zhelezyakin
      Knowledgeable people, explain ... Why is the butt of the butt on the shoulder, and not rested on it?

      Video clearly in the subject:
  3. bouncyhunter
    bouncyhunter 12 December 2019 16: 49
    +5
    В International Center for Peacekeeping and Security AFU in Lviv region

    A curtain ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 12 December 2019 17: 40
      +4
      This curtain will end in great blood; they will not calm down without a good crack.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 12 December 2019 17: 44
        +3
        There is no crack needed ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 12 December 2019 20: 51
          +1
          I agree, but somehow I wanted to literally ...
  4. knn54
    knn54 12 December 2019 17: 04
    +4
    Sweeps according to the NATO standard.
    1. Igor Ivanov_4
      Igor Ivanov_4 12 December 2019 17: 29
      -1
      At one time, Omsk players played who is cooler. Counter Strike! They took positions, ours broke in and beat everyone with a butt - despite the marker - injured, but not killed, I can fight. We have markers in their shells. Then they changed places. They storm the room - zero resistance! They occupy the room and immediately receive both the marker and the butt on the paint, ours climbed onto the cabinets with legs!
    2. opus
      opus 12 December 2019 17: 42
      0
      Quote: knn54
      Sweeps according to the NATO standard.

      no, they are not yet in NATO.
      standard NATs demonstrate Estonians (they are Europeans with experience)
      1. eagle owl
        eagle owl 12 December 2019 17: 56
        +2
        But I forgot - are the Estonians parked there? Ah, Lithuania ...

        Left brake shoes, and now right rowing - commands are heard behind the scenes.
  5. faterdom
    faterdom 12 December 2019 17: 14
    +2
    Quote: Zhelezyakin
    Knowledgeable people, explain ... Why is the butt of the butt on the shoulder, and not rested on it?
    If I understand correctly, only the first shot will be in place ...
    It was also striking how long the soldier thought, aimed, entered the room where the imaginary enemy was at three points. Oh no tenant that guy ...

    For a shorter turning radius, because the conditions in the building are constrained, and holding the machine to the full length in case of a sudden turn, there are more chances to flip the trunk in something and not have time ...
    In general, a slightly different weapon is needed to storm the buildings. Yes, another thing - with such a Makar you can more or less accurately aim from 5,45mm. Out of 7,62, this is already a task for a weight-lifter. And then - the back of the receiver of the Fingals hangs on his right eye.
  6. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 12 December 2019 17: 21
    -2
    In the photo, the soldiers hold weapons like inept schoolchildren, if they continue to hang around like that, there will be many more boilers ahead))
  7. vfwfr
    vfwfr 12 December 2019 17: 23
    0
    Probably I don’t know something .. But in the photo the fighters look like mummers or airsoft players ...;)
  8. Vitas
    Vitas 12 December 2019 17: 31
    0
    Pripyat is there, garden the microdistrict and train.
  9. cniza
    cniza 12 December 2019 17: 38
    +3
    In the International Center for Peacekeeping and Security of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Lviv region, a training complex has begun functioning, which the Armed Forces themselves called “kill house”.


    As always, they want to outwit everyone, the "teeth" in Paris started talking, and they themselves are preparing for the Croatian version and think that they can get away with it ...
  10. eagle owl
    eagle owl 12 December 2019 17: 53
    0
    Field training from the Donbass militia did not suit them - it’s uncomfortable in boilers.
  11. orlauskas.valdemaras
    orlauskas.valdemaras 12 December 2019 21: 21
    0
    But don’t you think that this is preparation for stripping Donetsk and Lugansk? Moscow has not been able to give birth to LDNR recognition for so long that the Kiev regime is preparing to surrender the Republics by Russia.
  12. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 12 December 2019 21: 48
    -1
    Quote: Proxima
    In what cities is the APU going to implement the experience gained at this complex? Not in the cities of Donbass for an hour?

    Of course, the first thing in Kiev. So, then, at the green head did not come any nonsense. Agree with cotton, and so on ....
  13. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 12 December 2019 22: 01
    -1
    Quote: Rich
    A training complex has begun functioning at the International Center for Peacekeeping
    on fire fighting in the city

    And the site "peacemaker from the same series
    that a perverse substitution of the concepts of universal values ​​has grown in Ukraine

    If our proletarian leaders had not been shyly deceiving us, then we would have looked at them for a long time not like now, with surprise and pity.
    But what about demons and fiercest enemies.

    They tricked us into saying that, as soon as ..... their proletarians, in the name of solidarity, unscrew everything to their world-eaters. What is possible and what is not. But 1941 showed how successfully their proletarians unscrew our ....
  14. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 13 December 2019 13: 28
    0
    Training for street fights in Donetsk.
  15. iouris
    iouris 14 December 2019 13: 34
    -1
    Conclusion: after the "format" meeting, you should prepare carefully.