Love the Constitution

On December 12, Russia celebrates Constitution Day. Until a certain time - a day off. Now - a normal working day, but with a claim to "one of the main public holidays." Although, according to statistics, the Russians are still not inclined to feel awe before this day. Many people of the older and middle generations believe that the very appearance of the Constitution of the 1993 model de jure was a dubious process - because the constitution was written under Western advisers, and in addition, the opinion of the majority of Soviet citizens was not taken into account during the referendum on the preservation of the USSR .

If we talk about statistics, it turns out that those wishing to change the Fundamental Law of the country to one degree or another are added. The Public Opinion Foundation has published data according to which more than two-thirds of respondents suggest changing the content of the Constitution - 68 percent. For comparison, last year this indicator was 66%, and in 2013 - 44 percent. At the same time, 54 percent of respondents called the current Constitution of the Russian Federation “generally good”.

Those who wished to amend the basic code of laws, believe that the innovations in the Constitution should be aimed at improving the social policy of the state, to improve the standard of living of citizens. What specifically should be the new paragraphs is not reported.

The constitution was adopted at one time. She has 26 today.

The previous Constitution in our country (then still in the Soviet Union) was adopted in the 1977 year. It is often called "Brezhnev".
A few comparisons to think about.

Article 1 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation:

The Russian Federation - Russia is a democratic federal state with a republican form of government.

Article 1 of the USSR Constitution of the 1977 model of the year:

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is a socialist nation-wide state that expresses the will and interests of the workers, peasants, intelligentsia, working people of all nations and nationalities of the country.

Article 2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation:

Man, his rights and freedoms are the highest value. Recognition, observance and protection of human and citizen's rights and freedoms is the duty of the state.

Article 2 of the USSR Constitution of the 1977 model of the year:

All power in the USSR belongs to the people.

In this way, the Soviet Constitution has already managed to indicate twice who in the country should be the master — the people and whose interests the state is obliged to express — in the current Constitution of the Russian Federation about the “source of power - the people” clearly recall only the 3 article.

But ... for all the documentary beauty of the Basic Law of the USSR, as it turned out, it did not work. The power that should have belonged to the people was in the hands of crooks, who eventually sold this same power, and the country, and the people. At the same time, the people themselves turned out to be extras, looking at how, instead of a socialist nation-wide state, "democratic" lines at McDonald's appeared.

And therefore, on the day of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, purely civilian want to hope that today's elites will often recall the source of power in the country and at the same time take care of Russia and Russian citizens not only at the level of theses and slogans delivered from the stands. Then the "lovers" of the Basic Law will become more.

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[GKS 2111]

Russians are still not inclined to awe with awe before this day.
Yes, that November 4, that December 12 is not holidays for me ... Well, no.

[Pravdalyub]

Before you love the Constitution of the Russian Federation, you must first finalize it and introduce one of the most important points for the entire population of Russia, namely, this point on the right of all residents of Russia to Laborthat was stolen from the beginning of the destruction of the USSR.

Without work, a person is doomed to a hungry existence and degradation ... and simply to survive in the difficult conditions of capitalism. "Democrats" deliberately keep silent about this.

[Boris55]

Quote: Truthfulness

Without work, a person is doomed to hunger and degradation

And the right to rest, to family, to raising children.

Stalin's Constitution (1936):
"Article 119. Citizens of the USSR have the right to rest.
The right to rest is ensured by establishing a seven-hour working day for workers and employees and reducing the working day to six hours for a number of professions with difficult working conditions and up to four hours in workshops with especially difficult working conditions; the establishment of annual leaves for workers and employees with the preservation of wages; provision of a wide network of sanatoriums, rest homes, and clubs to serve the working people. "

Brezhnev Constitution (1977):
"Article 41. Citizens of the USSR have the right to rest.
This right is ensured by the establishment of a working week for workers and employees not exceeding 41 hours, a shorter working day for a number of professions and industries, and a reduced duration of work at night; the provision of annual paid vacations, days of weekly rest ... "

Depriving us of this right, we were deprived of the opportunity to engage in raising children ...

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Truthfulness

to begin to finalize it and introduce one of the most important points for the entire population of Russia, namely, this is a clause on the right of all residents of Russia to Work, which was stolen from the beginning of the destruction of the USSR.

The fact is that earlier we all worked for the state, the power in which belonged to the people. In other words, they worked for themselves.
Now we are working for an uncle. Uncle takes the profit out of the country. As a result, we work, and the country is poor.
Such work cannot be guaranteed !.

The system itself is not ours. Not socialist. This is not even capitalism. This is the plunder of the country. Looting of people. For capital is converted into foreign currency and stupidly exported from the country. Resources are exported, profits are converted and exported, and people work for pennies on this system.

The country belonged to us, and now it belongs to the Chubais.

So understand for whom Putin is trying. For the people? It doesn’t work, because the people survive as best they can under the conditions of total theft and legal robbery.

[AU Ivanov.]

Power has never belonged to the people. This is a common declaration. In the USSR, power belonged to a handful of communist functionaries who were not even elected by the people. And the Soviets were a decorative organ. So that "we" never ruled is an illusion.

[Tatyana]

Well, how the USSR evolved to the point of its disappearance in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, which led to the content of the modern Constitution of the Russian Federation, is well told by an eyewitness of all these historical events, former Minister of Press and Information of the Russian Federation Mikhail Poltoranin.

From his story it becomes clear who and when actually started the process of the collapse of the USSR, what goals were set, and what influenced the formation political and power elites of the newest period in the history of Russia, the interests of which meet the current Constitution of the Russian Federation.

In general, ordinary Russians do not shine with such a Constitution!

Heroes traitors to the USSR #Mikhail Poltoranin # USSR # KGB # Gorbachev # Yeltsin # Disintegration of the USSR • Published: Nov 9. 2019 year

[Secretparadox]

Did you even open the Constitution? Nobody canceled your right to rest, which is directly enshrined in part 5 of article 37 of the Constitution, which states that everyone has the right to rest. At the same time, of course, there are no specific dimensions of such a vacation, but they should not be present there. The constitution should introduce the foundations; for specifics, there are other laws and by-laws.

[Uncle lee]

I remembered Constitution Day - December 5th!

[Civil]

All these constitutions of the USSR-RF are simply an idle set of slogans.
"To friends (his) - everything, to the rest the law."

[Vladimir16]

You're wrong. In the USSR, people were confident in the future. And the constitution guaranteed this right.

Kidnyak set up the top, led by a hunchback. Greed has become more important than the law (constitution).

[x.andvlad]

And therefore, on the day of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, purely civilian want to hope that today's elites will often remember about the source of power in the country and at the same time take care of Russia and Russian citizens
And they regularly remember about citizens when the need is brewing.

Source - it is the source ...

[Pax tecum]

To hell with a constitution dictated by the Americans.
I recognize only the Constitution of the USSR

[lukewarm]

I agree. And sobsno what to expect: 4.11. pulled by the ears on the principle "if only not 7th". For a long time they could not name. That is agreement and reconciliation. Now here is unity. That is, they did not have time to agree and reconcile - as they have already become united. And 12.12 - so in general the Constitution, which secured the death of the SSR with its sovereignty and at the same time nishtyaki for citizens. In the ashes of the White House.

[Mordvin 3]

I went, voted, bought a couple of bottles of Stolovoy wine, drank around the corner, and went home ... That's all I remember about that day ...

[Vladimir16]

In general, you drank homeland.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vladimir16

In general, you drank homeland.

Yeah, he was an unconscious person. Vodka back then was sort of like a coupon, and there they sold it.

[AU Ivanov.]

There were buffets at every polling station. Deficiencies: smoked sausage there, sandwiches with caviar. Well, you could skip the beer, or even cognac.

[Thrifty]

In general, the constitution, like the laws of the country, must be strictly observed and implemented, and not shouted that our laws are soft, and there is no constitution. And it’s high time to make changes, only this government will not allow the adoption of those relevant amendments that are ripe, that the population of the country wants to introduce into the basic law. ...

[bessmertniy]

Laws, including basic ones, must not only be respected, but also improved. If the survey shows that the changes are overdue, then the authorities need to react to this, and not get away from the difficult task for it - the revision of the Constitution.

[U-58]

Yeah, they said so: the changes are ripe.
And rr-times, changed the pension system

[Secretparadox]

Quote: Thrifty

In general, the constitution, like the laws of the country, must be strictly observed and implemented, and not shouted that our laws are soft, and there is no constitution. And it’s high time to make changes, only this government will not allow the adoption of those relevant amendments that are ripe, that the population of the country wants to introduce into the basic law. ...

And what amendments does the people want?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

The first time I heard about it ... the holidays got divorced ... there is no where to step ...

[samarin1969]

Art.15.ch.4 on the supremacy of international law, art.39.1 - on pensions, art40 - on pensions - either a shame or casuistry without content.

The world's first constitution people paid with blood. And they had real fulfillment.
1993 Constitution - a legal monument ... As a direct document applies ... almost never applies.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: samarin1969

Art.15.ch.4 on the supremacy of international law.

This article has turned us into a sort of disenfranchised vassal.
Therefore, we are imposed the rules by which the rest of the world lives: to work harder (raising the retirement age), give birth less (which grandmother will now help sit with children, all her thoughts will be only about how to earn a pension).
According to euronews, they have been trumpeting all week about France, how people are fighting against pension reform. But they retire at the age of 62. And there are many categories of professions (42 or 48) that allow you to retire earlier.
Standard workweek 35 hours.
And we are driven to death, as serfs. A month ago, a driver died (did not live up to 50 years old) while driving. He worked for two, this is a total of more than 320 hours a month. I left the garage at 5 am daily. So the work-dad-patented bastard didn’t even apologize to his wife, the passenger gave money (the official whom the deceased drove).
The enterprise has the status of state (GBU).
And what is happening on private is scary to think about.
People work hard without flexing their backs, humbly perform any work, agree to the overhaul for mere pennies, if only not to get fired.
They took the people to the extreme and scoff: "We, the deputies, were begged to raise the retirement age."

[Secretparadox]

Quote: samarin1969

Art.15.ch.4 on the supremacy of international law, art.39.1 - on pensions, art40 - on pensions - either a shame or casuistry without content.

The world's first constitution people paid with blood. And they had real fulfillment.
1993 Constitution - a legal monument ... As a direct document applies ... almost never applies.

Art. 15 part 4 does not oblige the Russian Federation to comply with ALL norms and treaties of international law, but only to those that have been ratified by the Federal Assembly, if some kind of agreement does not suit the state, it can simply not be concluded, but if you did conclude it, then execute - obvious duty. What other articles didn’t please you is not clear at all. The BASIS is fixed in the Constitution, which then, in turn, is disclosed by other laws.

[DEDPIHTO]

If we talk about statistics, it turns out that those wishing to change the Fundamental Law of the country to one degree or another are added. The Public Opinion Foundation has published data according to which more than two-thirds of respondents suggest changing the content of the Constitution - 68 percent.

Mmm .. interestingly, at least one of these 68% was asked an elementary question- Who will change the content of the Yeltsin Constitution, who are these honest and patriotic people who are happy for the country and people? Outsiders (independents) will not be allowed, so those who have power will be corrected .. the type of chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Constitutional Legislation of Tavischa Klishas, ​​the owner of Swiss real estate and a collection of watches for crazy millions, a co-author and lobbyist of many laws that infringe on the rights of citizens. What is corrected by such figures I’m even afraid to imagine ... ,, Let the goat into the garden .. ,, (c)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Who will change the content of the Yeltsin Constitution, who are these honest and patriotic people who are glad for the country and people?

Like who? Deputies Remember how the presidential term was changed, but at the same time the deputy? The country is big, 4 years is not enough to manage ...

[DEDPIHTO]

I don’t remember how to remember this, therefore the questions .. Personally, I refuse the current legislative power the right to make any decisions whatsoever. We got these pests.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

We got these pests.

Servants of the people ... I remember that in the USSR they also went to apartments, promised something if you vote for them ...

[bear]

We do not have the elite in power, one trash.

[Far B]

for all the documentary beauty of the Basic Law of the USSR, it, as a result, turned out to not work

Because she was shamelessly trampled upon, as they are trampling even now. AND

the people themselves turned out to be an extra, looking at how "democratic" queues arose at McDonald's instead of a socialist state of the whole people

for the simple reason that he hoped that the siloviki of all levels, who swore allegiance to the USSR, would keep their oath and protect the country from a bunch of scum seized power. Well, they were naive. It did not fit in my head that the results of a popular March referendum would be flushed down the toilet.

[VSZMK]

The Russian Constitution of 1993 does not directly give a definition of the type of economic system of the Russian state, but clearly indicates its basis - property. In Russia, private, state, municipal and other forms of ownership are recognized and protected equally. Land and other natural resources may also be owned. However, until now, the legitimacy of private ownership of the subsoil, large infrastructure facilities critical for the country’s industry (energy, military industry, all kinds of communications and road networks) raises many questions among the population.

[carstorm 11]

The subsoil within the territory of the Russian Federation, including underground space and minerals, energy and other resources contained in the subsoil, are state property. The issues of ownership, use and disposal of mineral resources are under the joint jurisdiction of the Russian Federation and the subjects of the Russian Federation.
Subsoil plots cannot be the subject of purchase, sale, donation, inheritance, contribution, pledge or alienate in any other form. Subsoil use rights may be alienated or transferred from one person to another to the extent that their turnover is permitted by federal laws.
Minerals and other resources extracted from the subsoil can be in federal state ownership, property of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, municipal, private and other forms of ownership under the terms of the license.
I do not understand what questions about this property may be in principle.

[VSZMK]

Russia's rapid transition to "market rails" has generated a sharp increase in social stratification. And instant “privatization of the 90s” is becoming a frequent topic for heated public discussion. Many Russian citizens believe that at that time the country was headed not from the Kremlin, but from the expensive offices of the “new Russians”, criminal oligarchs who determined politics and appointed their henchmen to high government posts.

[carstorm 11]

I just said that private ownership of the subsoil does not exist)

[VSZMK]

There is not a big difference in private ownership of the subsoil and in private ownership of minerals and other resources extracted from the subsoil.

[carstorm 11]

actually huge. if there is no difference for you then write right right away and I personally will not have questions for you. I do not digest organically when I interpret something specific to anyone as I want!

[Revival]

The problem is not in the formal name of the form of ownership, but in the fact that in fact there is "private" state property

[Pax tecum]

In Russia, private, state, municipal and other forms of ownership.

The phrase "other forms of ownership", which raises no questions? Nobody?

Is anyone ready to give a definition of what the Americans put into this concept when they advised our pseudo-elite?

[carstorm 11]

Other forms of ownership in this case means joint ownership, which, for example, arises when creating an enterprise, the founders of which are the state and a private person. In this case, the form of ownership of the enterprise is private, and the property contributed to the statutory fund by the state is state. Or, for example, the property of foreign states assumes that in these states, besides the listed ones, there can exist another form of ownership (for example, temporary or joint, but it cannot be qualified as our municipal one), then their property right is applied.
In my opinion everything is clear. you can add religious objects.

[Pax tecum]

carstorm 11 (Dmitry):
Other forms of ownership in this case means joint ownership, which, for example, arises when creating an enterprise, the founders of which are state and private person. In this case, the form of ownership of the enterprise is private, and the property contributed to the statutory fund by the state is state. Or, for example, foreign property assumes that in these states, in addition to the listed ones, there can exist another form of ownership (for example, temporary or joint, but it cannot be qualified as our municipal one), then their ownership applies.
In my opinion everything is clear. can still be added religious objects.

Well, in general, yes, the answer is correct. But that’s the point. Therefore, we now have owners and churches with possessions not calculated, and private individuals with property in state assets, and foreigners, with their right of ownership ... In my opinion, everything is clear too. I. Convenient, isn't it?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: VSZMK

The 1993 Russian Constitution does not directly define the type of economic system of the Russian state

How does it not give? It is written in black and white that the power of money is higher than the rule of the people, which has no right either to recall the representatives of the government they have chosen, or to make vital decisions for which a referendum is recommended. And the electoral system itself is designed so that those in power (as well as incomprehensible commissions) can reject any "wrong" candidate ...
In addition, there are written articles that are not executed in life, such as:

The highest direct expression of the power of the people are referendum and free elections.
Every citizen of the Russian Federation has in its territory all rights and freedoms and bears equal responsibilitiesprovided for by the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
In Russian federation the unity of the economic space is guaranteedfree movement of goods services and financial resources, support for competition, freedom of economic activity.
Land and other natural resources are used and protected in the Russian Federation as the basis for the life and activities of peoples living in the corresponding territory.
No ideology can be established as state or mandatory.
The Russian Federation is a secular state. No religion can be established as state or mandatory.

But you never know ... Go through the articles - you will see everything at once.

[AU Ivanov.]

Under the USSR, Soviets of all levels were nothing more than decorations. The party officials had real power, whom the people did not choose and, accordingly, could not recall. Partnomenclature was generally appointed in its narrow circle.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

The party officials had real power, which the people did not choose and, accordingly, could not even recall.

For you, I specifically remind you:

Communist Party of the Soviet Union - there is a combat tested vanguard of the Soviet peopleuniting on a voluntary basis the advanced, most conscious part of the working class, collective farm peasantry and intelligentsia of the USSR.

1. Any citizen of the Soviet Union who recognizes the Party’s Program and Charter, actively participates in the construction of communism, works in one of the party organizations, implements party decisions and pays membership fees can be a member of the CPSU.
2. A party member must:
a) to fight for the creation of the material and technical base of communism, to serve as an example of a communist attitude to work, to increase labor productivity, to act as a skirmisher of everything new, progressive, to maintain and disseminate advanced experience, to master technology, to improve their qualifications, to preserve and increase public, socialist property - the basis of the power and prosperity of the Soviet Motherland;
b) firmly and steadily implement the decisions of the party, explain to the masses the policies of the party, help strengthen and expand the party’s relations with the people, show sensitivity and attention to people, and respond in a timely manner to the demands and needs of workers;
c) actively participate in the political life of the country, in the management of state affairs, in economic and cultural construction, set an example in fulfilling public duty, help develop and strengthen communist public relations;
d) master the Marxist-Leninist theory, raise one's ideological level, and contribute to the formation and upbringing of a person in a communist society. To wage a decisive struggle against any manifestations of bourgeois ideology, with the remnants of private-ownership psychology, religious prejudices and other remnants of the past, observe the principles of communist morality, put public interests above personal ones;
e) to be an active conductor of the ideas of socialist internationalism and Soviet patriotism among the masses of workers, to combat the remnants of nationalism and chauvinism, in word and deed, to strengthen the friendship of the peoples of the USSR, the fraternal ties of the Soviet people with the peoples of the countries of the socialist camp, with the proletarians and workers of all countries;
f) to strengthen in every way the ideological and organizational unity of the party, to protect the party from penetration into its ranks of people unworthy of the high rank of communist, to be truthful and honest to the party and people, to be vigilant, to keep party and state secrets;
g) to develop criticism and self-criticism, boldly reveal shortcomings and seek to eliminate them, fight against parade, arrogance, complacency, localism, give a decisive rebuff to all attempts to clamp down on criticism, speak out against any actions that damage the party and the state, and report them to the party bodies, up to the Central Committee of the CPSU;
with) steadily pursue the party line in the selection of cadres according to their political and business qualities. To be irreconcilable in all cases when the Leninist principles of selection and training of personnel are violated;
i) observe party and state discipline, equally mandatory for all party members. The party has one discipline, one law for all communists, regardless of the merits and the posts they hold;
j) to make every effort to strengthen the defense power of the USSR, to wage a relentless struggle for peace and friendship between peoples.
3. A party member has the right:
a) to elect and be elected to party bodies;
b) freely discuss issues of politics and practical activities of the party at party meetings, conferences, congresses, meetings of party committees and in the party press, make proposals, openly express and defend their opinions before the organization makes a decision;
c) to criticize at the party meetings, conferences, congresses, plenums of the committees of any communist, regardless of his post. Persons guilty of clamping down on criticism and prosecution for criticism should be held to strict party responsibility, up to and including expulsion from the ranks of the CPSU;
d) to personally participate in party meetings, meetings of bureaus and committees when the question of his activity or behavior is being discussed;
e) apply with questions, statements and proposals to any party authority, up to the Central Committee of the CPSU, and demand a response on the merits of its appeal.

Have you read? It is thanks to the set of duties, for the failure of which it was possible to lay out a party ticket, people behaved more modestly.
And now it’s hard to say at what stage the top communists felt like celestials. It was the isolation of the highest party nomenclature from ordinary communists, the appropriation of privileges and special rights, that destroyed this principle of democratic centralism, which is not even mentioned in the EDR or in today's authorities.

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Partnomenclature was generally appointed in its narrow circle.

In this you are absolutely right. And the main mistake of this leadership, of this practice was that these "communists" were (in their majority) neither docs in economics, nor professors in finance, nor experts in foreign policy strategy.
This is how Khrushchev arose after the successful rule of Stalin. That is why Gorbachev appeared, the EBN surfaced, and after him a person who was not involved in anything, who was not responsible for anything, did not pledge to anyone, the "elite" ...

[AU Ivanov.]

At what stage did the party nomenclature become inviolable? Exactly from the moment she was taken out of the control of the special services. And that's all - a caste of celestials was formed. Further: we called the power Soviet, although the Soviets, that is, the elected representatives of the people, did not possess real power from top to bottom. A party, any party, should be nothing more than a marker of the worldview and political convictions of this or that figure, but in no way "leading and guiding"

[Qwertyarion]

. If we talk about statistics, it turns out that those wishing to change the Fundamental Law of the country to one degree or another are added.

This is how public opinion is formed that the constitution needs to be changed.
And what will change we will say after the fact.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Qwertyarion

This is how public opinion is formed that the constitution needs to be changed.
And what will change we will say after the fact.

Public opinion does not need to be formed, it needs to be studied and guided by it in making decisions regarding the lives of all citizens (the opinion of all citizens is especially interesting in deciding on privileges in power structures and regulating their vital interests - a hobby).

[Qwertyarion]

Quote: ROSS 42

Public opinion does not need to be formed, it must be studied and guided by it in making decisions regarding life

And when they raised the retirement age, apparently they did not take this into account?

[rotmistr60]

wishing to varying degrees, the basic law of the country is added

And no wonder. Suffice it to recall that this Constitution was quickly adopted by the Yeltsin clique and edited by foreign "consultants", who at that time in Russia were unmeasured in all areas of the country's government.

[Herman 4223]

What a wonderful constitution we have, the Americans tried for us when they wrote.
https://youtu.be/108yQSunVrI

[rocket757]

Do not eat is a sign important to the people ... does not roll!

[polar fox]

no constitution 93 no. there was a project. which was not signed by anyone. if already "according to the law", then we have the Constitution of 77g USSR.

[Boris55]

Quote: polar fox

we have the Constitution of 77g of the USSR.

You are right about something. We are still ruled by the party only under a different name (see my comment below).

[polar fox]

Quote: Boris55

We are still ruled by the party only under a different name (see my comment below).

a request to the state archive, I wrote a brief answer)))

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Boris55

You're right about something. The party still rules us only under a different name (see my comment below).

Can you answer for your words? I doubt it.
When the rules of the CPSU, the secretary of the regional committee of the CPSU was the first person in the region. Are you trying to prove to us that some member (or circle) from Edr, designated by the head (first secretary, chairmen of the regional committee) of the regional branch of the United Russia, can "swing" the rights at some enterprise in the region? What are you sculpting a hunchback? Your addiction to capitalism and devotion to Putinism is beginning to annoy ...
Do you think that you should be trusted by people who in everyday life are faced with completely different phenomena?

Quote: Boris55

In the late USSR, power did not belong to the people, it belonged to party functionaries, which was enshrined in the Brezhnev Constitution of 1977.

In the late USSR ... If you don’t know (they don’t write in the manuals), then I can enlighten you on this issue. The socialist period of the 70s was called the era of developed socialism. And in this era it is enough (it happened more than once) the appearance of a feuilleton (article) in a regional newspaper to stop a person being held as the head of any sphere of the national economy. And the director of the enterprise could not independently change the terms of payment of wages, its size, and also without the knowledge of the trade union committee, dismiss the employee ...
I LIVED AT THIS TIME! I SAW IT! IT SEEED AND MY WIFE, AND MY MOM!
You are talking nonsense, a frivolous gag ... For what? That you were paid, or you just like that, in the course of your life slander everything that is connected with the USSR?

[Boris55]

Quote: ROSS 42

Can you answer for your words? I doubt it.

We all live according to the laws adopted by the Duma, the constitutional majority of which belongs to the EP whose party chairman is Medvedev.

Quote: ROSS 42

Secretary of the CPSU Regional Committee was the first person in the region.

And today, which party does all the leaders of different levels belong to?

Quote: ROSS 42

EP can "swing" the rights at any enterprise in the region?

If desired, EP can nationalize any enterprise, but since EP represents the interests of the bourgeois in the Duma, it will never do this, but the pension law is easy. Priorities have changed, but power still belongs to the party.

Quote: ROSS 42

The socialist period of the 70s was called the era of developed socialism.

We heard: socialism, developed socialism, socialism with a human face ... verbiage that led us to capitalism.

If we compare the Stalinist Constitution of 1936 and Brezhnev’s, it’s hard not to notice how the party deprived us of the achievements of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers in the 1917 revolution. As an example:

Stalin's Constitution (1936):
"Article 119. Citizens of the USSR have the right to rest.
... a seven-hour working day and a reduction of the working day to six hours .. to four hours ... ".

Brezhnev Constitution (1977):
"Article 41. Citizens of the USSR have the right to rest.
... a workweek not exceeding 41 hours ... "

In the present - there is not even what remains in Brezhnev ...

Quote: ROSS 42

I LIVED AT THIS TIME!

You were not alone at that time.

Quote: ROSS 42

Your addiction to capitalism and devotion to Putinism is beginning to annoy ...

I am a Bolshevik. I am against any form of exploitation of man by man. I am for the security forces whom Putin represents in power and who saved Russia from destruction in 1917 and 1993. It is necessary to judge management at such a level not by tactical decisions, but by the implemented strategy.

[Far B]

We all live according to the laws adopted by the Duma, the constitutional majority of which belongs to the EP whose party chairman is Medvedev.

Boris, are you starting your fairy tale about the white bull again? It seems that you and I once found out that it was Putin who created the current EP. And, I remember, you didn’t even object to this. Is not it so? Well, ashamed, by golly.

[Boris55]

Quote: Dalny V

Putin created the current EP

I already answered you. Yes, the EP was "created" by Putin. But it won't tell you how many people were there when it was created and how many now?
This is exactly the same as in the 17th the party of the Bolshevik communists won, but in view of their small number, they had to unite with other parties to manage the country, one of which was much larger - this is Trotsky's party, which will allow the current Trotskyists to blame the Bolsheviks for their crimes ... Do not be like them.

[Far B]

The EP acquired its current canonical form in the 2011 elections. That composition of the Edra in the State Duma was aptly called the "mad printer." The chairman of the United Russia party in 2008-2012, before his election for a third term, was someone V.V. Putin It was he who approved the party lists. You don’t even know the story of your idol? Well, bad, bad. Ned.
And yes, you are not a Bolshevik. You are a typical Menshevik compromiser.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Boris55

I am a Bolshevik. I am against any form of exploitation of man by man. I am for the security forces whom Putin represents in power and who saved Russia from destruction in 1917 and 1993. It is necessary to judge management at such a level not by tactical decisions, but by the implemented strategy.

,, Savrasku suffered sorrel .. ,, (c) Hogweed you are our ideological Globalist like Putin

[Boris55]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Hogweed you are our ideological. Globalist like Putin

No need to be compared to a frightened ostrich with a magnifying glass looking at the grains of sand between the toes, leaving your butt unattended. Someone will definitely use it.

[DEDPIHTO]

Your experience is very valuable, the main thing is not to repeat your mistakes ...

[Boris55]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Your experience is very valuable, the main thing is not to repeat your mistakes ...

If you think that everything that happened in 93 doesn’t concern you, then you are Chubais’s best friend and if not, then wait - if someone does not remember his past, then it will surely remind of itself.

[Wolverine]

Quote: Boris55

It is necessary to judge management at such a level not by tactical decisions, but by the implemented strategy.

Comrade, you are going in the right direction, first we solve global problems, then sweeping the ghouls inside the country.

[AU Ivanov.]

That's right: the usual rebranding: the party was renamed, and the working methods remained commune.

[Herman 4223]

Here you are a little misled.
Here is a video on this topic with explanations.
https://youtu.be/OiZRlKh1s_8

[Boris55]

The power that was supposed to belong to the people was in the hands of rogues

In the late USSR, power did not belong to the people, it belonged to party functionaries, which was enshrined in the Brezhnev Constitution of 1977.

"Article 6. The guiding and guiding force of Soviet society, the core of its political system, state and public organizations is the Communist Party of the Soviet Union ...

Armed with Marxist-Leninist teachings, the Communist Party determines the general prospects for the development of society, the line of domestic and foreign policy of the USSR, directs the great creative activity of the Soviet people, gives a planned scientifically substantiated character to its struggle for the victory of communism. "

It turns out that the main rogue was Brezhnev.

Amend Art. 1, 2 and 9 of the current Constitution is only entitled to the "Constitutional Assembly", the law on which the Duma has not adopted four times already.

I don’t like the current Constitution, but any worst law, and the Constitution is the main law, within the framework of which all other laws that determine our life are adopted, is better than lawlessness.

[Far B]

the worst law, and the Constitution is the basic law,

Yeah. The Third Reich also lived by law, so all the rules. Reasoning correctly. And America, when the Indians exterminated.
No, dear. "The law is harsh, but it is the law" is an incorrect proverb. Laws are accepted by people, and people tend to make mistakes.

[Boris55]

Quote: Dalny V

Yeah. The Third Reich also lived by law,

All countries have laws, the citizens of which are obliged to abide by them. I know one country where this is not the case. This is Ukraine, where the laws of the jungle are in effect: "Where you fell asleep, you ate there." What is closer to you?

[Far B]

where are the laws of the jungle:

the basic law, within the framework of which all other laws that determine our life are adopted, is better than lawlessness.

So after all, the law of the jungle - is it also a law ??? You already decide cowards or a dagger.

[Ross xnumx]

We missed the adoption of the Constitution by 31 percent of the population ... We did not object to setting a 50% threshold, although laws in the State Duma (in case of rejection of the Federation Council) are adopted by two-thirds ... Moreover, we missed changes to the constitution that violate not only the electoral the right, but allowing an unjustified increase in the length of stay in power.
I will no longer convince you how honestly this vote went if, until now, at the sight of surveillance cameras, stuffing is considered an everyday occurrence.
I don’t have such a holiday (I didn’t vote for this constitution), I don’t have unity not with United Russia and its thieving and cynical predecessors, nor with the government, which revels in its cynicism and impunity in violating the constitutional rights of citizens through the adoption of laws , decisions and regulations by people are not at all popular trust.

[zloybond]

Here the article came out alone. Liked the thought. The same applies to our constitution. ".......... If we delegate the judiciary to a foreign" uncle ", we even formally have no reason to be called a sovereign state. Recognizing the jurisdiction of various kinds of Anglo-Saxon puppets, we de- in fact, we are committing a crime against the sovereignty of our country, and it is not the London court that should decide the fate of Russian citizens or companies, but Basmanny!
The example of the USA is excellent. Try to wave a piece of paper of a foreign court there ..... "

[New Year day]

The government recalls the constitution when it is profitable, then throws it into a long box, where it gathers dust

The existing constitution is only for the authorities and the rich, for the rest, a useless book about what is not

[Gardamir]

After yesterday, when the Banshees raged, I don’t want to express my opinion. But I’ll try, whatever the Constitution may be, let’s start by observing it. My proposal primarily relates to people from power. Most of the laws that were passed last year are unconstitutional.

[Sotskiy]

The power that was supposed to belong to the people was in the hands of crooks, who eventually sold this very power, and the country, and the people.

Has anything changed in thirty years? We are strong in "traditions", right?
Something more frequent stuffing about changing the RF health. Is this connected with an attempt to extend the reign of the current government and the Yeltsin system as a whole?
For me, so that the demands of the people are heard, first you need to change the balance of power in the State Duma, going to the polls in 2021, and only then change the Constitution by referendum.

[Eugene (Eugene)]

The constitution needs updating, the question is different. Who will do this? To whom to entrust?
In our country, the president and the prime minister communicate in a direct line with citizens. So, communication on reforming the constitution of the Russian Federation is necessary. And not one straight line. Communication line without dummies and sweet speakers
for those in power. Honestly, though it will be hard. Where should not poke your nose bastards from the 90s and
2000-x.
There are dangers to which we can be led:
1). For example, a number of individuals - a contingent interested in the failure of constitutional reforms for the good of the people - arrange provocations in the country: explosions at malicious enterprises, create additional security threats to citizens, and at accelerated impulses introduce chipization - allegedly for the good of the people (electronic concentration camp) in the Russian Federation. And then the people even cry out that you were deceived - "to the light".
2). There is a tendency in the Russian Federation - that, using the internal need of the people for change,
people remember the heroes of the past, ideals have not been completely killed inside them, where there is a place for kindness, responsiveness, a sense of the Motherland, Faith in God, and so; they push on TV screens under the guise of noble ideas - films with ideas of uprising against the oppression of usurpers, you give a new constitution, etc. I personally have doubts about the sincere impulses of the protégé of the film "Union of Salvation". About the noble nobles of the Decembrists, yearning for a better life for the people. There is an opinion that the people are being prepared for the passive consent of the division of society into an estate, something for all of you, and they are the most. People with far from noble impulses may stand behind such films. And how you want everyone to have a "French roll crunch!" Some suggest that a king is needed - who? "The army revolted - the king is not real!"
Some remembered the bourgeois who come to the balls and reward each other:

The man standing with citizen Malofeev. I need to know who he is, who they are, and everyone else who "cares for the good of the people." Who should we trust, who are they?
I do not want aristocrats from the former and others to appear in the country - dubious.
This is how a nightmare will be. Marquis Mutko, Princess Matvienko, Duke of Chubais, Count Medvedev, Baron Gref.
Clink glasses and went to the gypsies.

And here ideas about noble nobles - the film "Union of Salvation", it takes time for the people to "swallow"
slip new "noble reformers - heroes", and from the rearrangement of the terms ...

The country is preparing for the arrival of new tyrants.

We need worthy leaders in the State, but not the "exceptional" ...

Until in our country, at the state level, a "debriefing" is carried out on the political past: the era of Khrushchev (the "bomb" he planted under the USSR, starting with the XXth Congress), the era of Gorbachev, the era of Yeltsin, we, without making a clear (h) compromise analysis, unpleasant for us, but honest in relation to ourselves - only this way and not otherwise, we and our state will be able to take the "right" steps towards solving the crisis. Also an analysis of the geopolitical situation that was in the past, in such periods of time when there were rulers of the Russian land (especially with "curious passion"): Prince Svyatoslav (war with the Khazar Kaganate), the era of Ivan the Terrible, Peter the 1st, Catherine the 2nd, Pavel 2, Alexander 1, Nicholas 1, Alexander 2, Nicholas 2, Joseph Stalin. Also pay special attention to a delicate topic - a schism in the church. The church question (together or separately to go to Victoria of the Russian state?), What do we need - capitalism or socialism in a "new transformation"? We all need to decide whether to support the concept of the Third Rome. Assessment of the works of Russian thinkers at the general educational level for boys and girls - analysis of works: Danilevsky N. Ya. ("Russia and Europe"), Leontiev K. N., Ilyin I. A., Soloviev S. S., Dostoevsky M. F ., Klyuchevsky O.K. and other thinkers. And also do not forget about the thinkers of the East, etc. The era of Greece, Rome. Acquaintance with the works of the holy ministers of the church: Nikolai Serbsky, Ignatiy Brianchaninov and others. Study - analysis of the civil war in Russia and the formation of the state - the USSR. Academic education in the USSR - an analysis of education in the era of Stalin (pay special attention). Return (amendments to the constitution) of the nationwide (generally accepted), nation-wide-approved ideology of the Russian state.

[Jurkovs]

If the Constitution of 77 had a post of the President and a system of transfer of power was painted, the USSR would be more alive than all the living.

[AU Ivanov.]

If the thesis about the leading and guiding role of the CPSU was eliminated from the Soviet Constitution, then the Power would definitely be preserved.

[Basarev]

Isn't it easier to just cancel the constitution? One useless little book will be less.

[prior]

Why the hell do you need a constitution that allows the people of the country not to live, but only to survive ?!

[LCA]

Constitution of the Russian Federation. 3 Article.
1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.
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What does sovereignty begin with?
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The words "sovereignty" and "democracy" came to our language because the prince-boyar corporation, after the baptism of Russia, being under the psychological influence of the biblical culture, degenerated and began to focus in everything on foreign friends, "enlighteners", that is, it stopped thinking original, according to Russian.
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Mindlessly living at the ready, the “elite”, perceiving “smart” Western words in Latin, Greek, French, German, and now English, pronounced them for the most part without consideration, that is, not imagining the images behind them. And much says that the elite reproduces this quality of thinking to this day: the words “sovereignty”, “democracy” - they know what it is, and also what “sovereign democracy” or “democratic sovereignty” are themselves they can’t figure it out, and they impose on the people abstractions unrelated to life.
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The “democratic sovereignty” of Russia must take place in the objective sense of the constituent concepts of “sovereignty” and “democracy”, so that an alternative project of globalization in Russian will be realized. And these words that came into the Russian language can be ambiguously understood in Russia precisely because they are not native to us. Therefore, it is necessary to be especially careful about the meaning that we put in these words in order for the alternative globalization project in Russian to take place.
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This meaning must be clearly expressed in Russian:
"Sovereignty" - "autocracy" - in Russian. Monarchy, tsarism is a special case of the realization of autocracy, i.e. "Autocracy" and "monarchy" can be synonymous only in damaged or undeveloped minds.
"Democracy" - "democracy" - in Russian.
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“Democratic sovereignty” - “autocracy of the people” - namely the people in the continuity of generations, and not the monarch or dynasty or some part of society who had imagined their “elitism”.
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And in order for the "autocracy of the people" to become a reality, the culture of this people must possess certain qualities necessary for it to reproduce in the continuity of generations a certain type of people who are mentally capable of autocracy in the mainstream of Humanity. Such people are called - Man living in conscience.

[LCA]

About power and management.
Democracy - this is only one of the ways society exercises self-government. An alternative to democracy is the power of one or another minority, which is isolated from the society that has appeared in this society from the inside or has come from the outside.
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Management at its core is a meaningful goal-setting and the achievement of goals in life (their implementation).
Accordingly, a management theory can be created that is quite general in the nature of its application and the identification of factors causing the need for management, setting goals and achieving results.
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In the late 1980s, a team of Russian scientists from different industries created a fairly general management theory, the key concept of which is the concept of the complete management function. This concept of “complete control function” shows that control can be carried out both by the full function and by the incomplete one, in which one or another stage of the full function is absent. The absence of certain stages may be the result of external management, both current and taking place in the past.
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The full management function is a hierarchically ordered sequence of diverse actions, which includes such stages as:
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1. Recognition of environmental factors (objective phenomena) with which intelligence is confronted in the whole variety of processes of the Universe.
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2. The formation of a stereotype (skill) of recognizing a factor in the future, how to distinguish precisely the effect of this factor from all others.
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3. The formation of the vector of control goals in relation to this factor (phenomenon) and the inclusion of this vector of goals into the general vector of goals of its behavior (self-management) after solving the problem of the stability of the control object (itself or another object or process) in the sense of the predictability of its behavior in an environment with taking into account the impact of this factor.
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4. Formation of the management concept and particular objective management functions (exactly how each of these goals should be achieved), which together make up the concept, is again based on solving the stability problem in terms of predictability of behavior in the environment (predictability to the extent required management with a subjectively specified level of quality, that is, depending on the manager who arranges for the future state of the object into which he intended to bring it).
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5.Organization and reorganization of appropriate management structures that carry targeted management functions (both self-organization of the person and other phenomena of the Universe).
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6. Control (observation) of the activities of structures in the management process carried out by them and coordination of the interaction of different structures.
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7. Elimination of existing structures in case of uselessness or maintenance of them in working condition until the next use, as well as their possible transformation.
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In society, the different stages of the implementation of the full management function are distributed among various types of intra-public authority.
The conceptual power bears on itself:
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recognition of factors that put environmental pressure on society;
the formation of target vectors in relation to pressure factors;
the formation of an appropriate, purposeful management function in structural and structureless ways, i.e., the concept of managing the achievement of the goal of social development.
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Conceptual power always works according to the predictor-corrector scheme, in which managerial decisions made depend not only on information about the current state of the system, but also on the forecast of its further behavior (predictor-corrector, translated into Russian, although in essence it’s more accurate corrector ").
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According to the “predictor-corrector” scheme, the highest quality of control is ensured, since some of the circuits of information circulation are closed not through the accomplished past, but through the predicted future.
The activity of conceptual power is based on the ability to multivariate forecasting of the future and the morally determined choice of one of the many possible “visible” or perceived by the manager options.
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Conceptual power is the beginning and end of all control loops, the highest of the types of intra-public power. It is autocratic, that is, autocratic in nature and ignores the “democratic” procedures of society, heterogeneous systems of initiation that do not see it or do not want to recognize its autocracy, because one can only rise to this level of power as one understands the general course of things and only so.
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The term “conceptual power” has a second additional meaning, which is a consequence of the first just explained:
Conceptual power is also the power over society of a certain concept by which public self-government is exercised.
It is conceptual authority that underlies the autocracy, including the autocracy of the people.
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The essence of a truly democratic society is not in the ways and timing of voting, as liberal figures are trying to imagine.
The main task of building a true autocratic democracy in essence is to build such an organization of society, in which autocracy of conceptual power is available to everyone, and this is the possibility of rising in society through self-education as one understands the general course of things, by virtue of which autocracy cannot become anti-people.
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This is the root of democracy-democracy, since the predictor-corrector of conceptual power is the beginning and end of all intra-public loops of self-government and the guarantor of the autocracy of society.
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Ideological power embodies the concept of organizing society in attractive forms for the broad masses of the people. In a crowd of “elitism,” the content of the concept can be arbitrarily far from the attractiveness of the forms in which it appears before society.
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The legislature introduces strict legal forms under the concept.
The executive branch implements the concept structurally and structurelessly, relying on social traditions and legislation.
The investigative and judicial authority monitors the observance of “legality” in the life of society and protects the administration according to the state-dominant concept from actions incompatible with it.
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The totality of the judiciary, executive, legislative, and ideological authorities does not ensure the full management function in society, as the PR politician tries to imagine, both in Russia and in the West. It follows from this that if none of the leadership of the society, not to mention the majority of its members, can intelligently talk about the conceptual power in this society and its activities, then such a society does not independently and have real sovereignty - autocracy -.
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Real sovereignty - autocracy - control over all contours of public administration, which is impossible without a stable predictor-corrector of conceptual power in the continuity of generations of a public institution.
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Meanwhile, the sociology of the West, when talking about democracy, always mentions an incomplete set of specialized forms of power that is not capable of carrying out a full management function: the conceptual and ideological authorities in the sense defined above are absent in the system of separation of powers of any of the democracies created on the model western in any part of the world.
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This means that Western democracies, including the United States and Great Brotherhood and their export counterparts dispersed around the world to some extent, are not sovereign in various aspects of their lives, but are hostages of the historical phenomenon that they call (at least in Russia) "World behind the scenes."
Some kind of “world backstage” in its personnel and bears the function of conceptual and ideological power in relation to all societies that have no idea about these types of power and whose politicians and average people are content to resolve their fates with vague feelings, elements of emotions and partly intuition or “not believe in conspiracy theory. "

[LCA]

A conspiracy is a secret agreement of several persons on joint actions against someone, most often to achieve certain political goals.
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And cultivating “disbelief in conspiracy theory” in society is one of the ways to keep people from showing interest in the problems of conceptual power, and as a result, to keep society in a state of conceptual anarchy.
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Conceptual independence and, accordingly, autocracy can be of a different nature:
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autocracy may be directed to the fulfillment of God's Providence;
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autocracy can consciously and purposefully exploit God's permissiveness (the extent to which God allows everyone to whom God provided freedom of choice to deviate from the Providence of life) to do whatever he wants, as far as there are enough abilities (talents) and forces;
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autocracy may be indifferent to issues of religion and atheism, and depending on various subjective and objective circumstances, blindly break into the future, not distinguishing between the ways of Providence or the area of ​​tolerance to make mistakes and abuse open opportunities and talents (for example, transhumanism).
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And this applies both to the "elitist" -corporate autocracy, and to the popular one.
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What does sovereignty begin with?
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The sovereignty of democracy begins with the fact that the people know both concepts - both the concept of the enslavement of mankind (in extreme forms - fascism) and the alternative concept of humanity, that is, humanity and freedom in line with God's providence - and each person chooses which one in line with him live.
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The multinational civilization of Russia has already made its choice and is implementing it. One of the signs of this was the approval by the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin on November 20, 2013 of the Public Safety Concept (http://kremlin.ru/acts/news/19653).

What do you think that Russian people of different nationalities have chosen, and what will you choose if you have not decided yet, on the basis of which concept to live?

[LCA]

The sovereignty in its entirety is the realization by society of the full management function in relation to itself.
Accordingly, the sovereignty of the state is a consequence of the sovereignty of society, and not vice versa.

[lukewarm]

However, happy holiday. Good wish of the author:

I would like to hope that today's elites will often recall the source of power in the country and at the same time take care of Russia and Russian citizens not only at the level of theses and slogans delivered from the stands.

As with the Constitution of the SSR, that the Russian Federation - the people will receive as much "constitution" as they can "carry away". In the SSR, fine words - in fact, zilch. In the RF - just a set of phrases. Not to mention under whose dictation and after what events the Constitution of the Russian Federation was written. The White House has not yet been laundered from soot and blood, but the constitution has already been sold: live. So they put it and put it on it with the device. Essno, and there is no holiday.

[Radical]

Quote: Thrifty

In general, the constitution, like the laws of the country, must be strictly observed and implemented, and not shouted that our laws are soft, and there is no constitution. And it’s high time to make changes, only this government will not allow the adoption of those relevant amendments that are ripe, that the population of the country wants to introduce into the basic law. ...

Do not be famously while it is quiet .... If this power makes any changes to the Basic Law, it will not seem enough. In another way they do not know how, or rather, they do not want to. As the saying goes, if change is not in this power.

[NordOst16]

Well, there’s a lot of writing on the fence too.