A new Srebrenica may arise: Putin about if Ukrainian nationalists enter LDNR

Some details of the negotiations in the so-called Norman format held in Paris continue to be published. One of the topics that is of particular concern to Ukrainian experts: why does the Russian president categorically refuse to change places in the Minsk agreements? The Ukrainian authorities tried to promote an option in which one of the first points would be to transfer the border between the Russian Federation and the republics of Donbass to Kiev control.

The statement of the Russian president made at a meeting in the framework of the Human Rights Council is cited. According to Vladimir Putin, the Russian side on the eve did not agree to change the clauses of the Minsk agreements for the reason that the Ukrainian radicals could go on to “purge” on the territory of LDNR.

Putin:

If Ukraine gains control of the border without observing the preliminary agreements laid down in Minsk, then a new Srebrenica may arise on the territory of the LPR and DPR due to Ukrainian nationalists. They can arrange it there.

It is worth noting that the president of Russia, as they say, didn’t mention Srebrenica just for the sake of words, since in the West the events of the 1995 of the year in this city are recognized as genocide, moreover, noting that the NATO peacekeepers became his actual partners. We are talking about the Dutch military, who did not prevent the events that were unfolding in Srebrenica at the time of the fulfillment of their mission. Moreover, the Dutch court recognized the liability of the Dutch contingent.

This is because Ukraine insists on bringing peacekeepers to the border with Russia, and not to the LDNR-Ukraine border, where the armed conflict is taking place.

According to Vladimir Putin, in Russia they saw how Zelensky "discussed with the nationalists."

President of Russia:

It is not clear who is stronger there, and what can happen in general, who will lead these nationalists if they enter these territories.

Comments

[Theodore]

But the free world will not notice this!

[maxim947]

Comrade Zelensky, if he really wants peace, must himself initiate the participation in this "format" of representatives of the LPNR, otherwise all this may turn out to be empty. Better yet, kneel down and apologize to them for everything you have done.

[olimpiada15]

Zelensky is not a friend. There are no comrades in that environment

[Tersky]

Quote: olimpiada15

There are no comrades in that environment

Are you alluding to Lyashko?

[bouncyhunter]

Victor

Quote: Tersky

Are you alluding to Lyashko?

I will not undertake to judge all sorts of different lyashki: this is a thankless task. But how does this Lyashko differ from those whom he himself calls "priests"?

[Tersky]

Quote: bouncyhunter

But how does this Lyashko differ from those whom he himself calls "priests"?

Pasha ! Well, than what, he's from the rear-wheel drive. That's why I clarified with olimpiada15 about the environment,

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Tersky

he is from the environment of rear-wheel drive

That just makes me sick of one kind ...

[Pravdalyub]

Quote: President of Russia

It is not clear who is stronger there, and what can happen in general, who will lead these nationalists if they enter these territories.

It's time to warn the Natsik about the consequences of large-scale hostilities in the Donbass, real actions on the part of Russia. Impunity - gives birth to further - impunity.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Truthfulness

Impunity - gives birth to further - impunity

Impunity usually breeds lawlessness.

[LiSiCyn]

Paul, welcome
Slack natsik, you can not give. Signed, follow. Zelensky is the deputy chairman of the Pound. Can sit, no steer. If only, they overwhelmed him, you see, the matter would move from a dead center ... In his case (and Ukraine): "Better a terrible end than horror without end."

[bouncyhunter]

And you don’t get sick, Stas!

Quote: LiSiCyn

Signed up, follow

The very ones! They’ll come up with a bunch of excuses.

Quote: LiSiCyn

"Better a horrible end than endless horror."

The oligarchs in / on (and not only) will definitely not agree with you.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Quote: LiSiCyn
"Better a horrible end than endless horror."

The oligarchs in / on (and not only) will definitely not agree with you.

Well, scumbags and fools, also enough ... Not all the same, under the oligarchs.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Truthfulness

It's time to warn the Natsik about the consequences of large-scale hostilities in the Donbass, real actions by Russia

So already warned - Ilovaisk, Debaltseve.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tersky

Are you alluding to Lyashko?

Vitya, there are either moral or ideological "Lyashko" in the Zelensky administration. Moreover, most of them have their butts screwed onto the hand of the State Department.

[loki565]

Zelensky there doesn’t solve anything at all. He is going to go to a peace settlement summit, and the Ukrainian DRG went to the DNR to do evil. And judging by the equipment is pretty well prepared and equipped.

[bouncyhunter]

Max

Quote: maxim947

Comrade Zelensky if really wants peace

I highlighted a dubious moment.

[Finches]

Here the Supreme is absolutely right, but I feel that the United States, in the first place, would be on hand - which is why the nationalists in Ukraine feel so comfortable - they are covered by the CIA and the State Department. And European politicians are just dancing!

[Vyacheslav Viktorovich]

It is very strange that Putin chose Srebrenica as an example, because Russia at the UN vetoed the recognition of these events as genocide.

[Alex Nevs]

Enough. All FIVE !!!! years empty bubble in a puddle. Nobody will move anything there (by 404). There are new ones! TWO warring parties. The conflict is growing anew (already without Crimea and Donbass). Collapse collapse is inevitable. To have time to "pick up" the necessary fragments.

[Boris Chernikov]

even as he will notice, when the Sumerians begin to smash into pieces .. wind

[Paul Siebert]

The torn Yugoslavia is our enduring pain.
The Dutch peacekeepers covered themselves with "unfading glory".
Just a year before, the "doves of peace" from the country of windmills, with their hands in their pockets, watched the genocide in Rwanda.
Then the Tutsis slaughtered more than a million Hutus.
The Orange Soldiers guarded themselves, occasionally escorting columns of white European refugees.
There is even a film, "Shooting Dogs ..." is called.
They created the world. Critters ...
In 1995, the story repeated. In Yugoslavia. Now, for blue-handed people, Serbs have become second-class people.
They lazily spit when whole Serbian villages were destroyed before their eyes. They made the world again ...
Now Zelensky is sleeping with a camarilla and sees UN troops on the Russian-Ukrainian border.
Or on the dividing line.
Or there and there.
To clean the Donbass behind their backs.
Damn two, svidomye! Bad nimae. We all remember, we have not forgotten anything.

[Fedor Sokolov]

Clear business! It is necessary to be a fool in order to surrender LDNR to the mercy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Natsik from Dobrobat.

[Alex Nevs]

Well, even if this is assumed ... then this is a complete degradation of itself. But He did not allow this. In 3D chess only OH alone can play. The rest do not even know about them.

[Andrey Mikhaylov]

It can be seen that you are the one who really needs to close the border, Ukraine and Russia.

[Alex Nevs]

Yong rode off.

[Prisoner]

Go shave, and do not sit, throwing manure on the fan, in. At the same time treat the nerves.

[olimpiada15]

Since the Maidan in Ukraine there have been many terrible crimes. And do not scuffle. Schemes for submitting information on how to cause distrust of the facts have long been worked out.

[figwam]

Quote: Sofa Patriot

And from the story of the crucified boy, already the hair on the palms of horror rises!

You can keep your stories to yourself, and the blood of thousands of dead on your hairy palms.

[yawa63]

Sofa patriot, it’s better to write about the exploded air conditioner, you’ve already heard about the boy

[maxim947]

Already miss the censor, sick?

[Tersky]

Quote: maxim947

Already miss the censor, sick?

According to the "bath", it can be seen completely blocked ...

[Ezekiel 25-17]

And in this case, Russia will have to answer.

[loki565]

It is easier to prevent this by creating a buffer zone.

[210ox]

In which case? Did they answer in Odessa?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: 210ox

In which case? Did they answer in Odessa?

Boilers !!!

[210ox]

What kind of boilers in Odessa ?! What are you talking about? Swallowed the tragedy and wiped the snot.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: 210ox

What kind of boilers in Odessa ?! What are you talking about? Swallowed the tragedy and wiped the snot.

About Ilovaisky and Debaltsevsky not heard?

[Kronos]

and that from this under ukraine most of Donbasa remained as it was

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Kronos

and that from this under ukraine most of Donbasa remained as it was

Not all at once.

[Kronos]

What is not all at once if the goal of Russia is to push them back with special status. If they were smarter they would have long accepted everything and then canceled it, but they don’t have enough brains for it

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: 210ox

Did they answer in Odessa?

and who should answer there ??? Russia??? and this despite the fact that the vast majority of the inhabitants of VNA sits and keeps quiet with his hataskray ????

[taiga2018]

The same is not clear with the special status that should be enshrined in the constitution of Ukraine, because it can be enshrined, and who or what can prevent them from canceling then this special status ...

[Alex Nevs]

Twice the rope jumped their constitution. TWICE!.

[Alex Nevs]

Compare .. with a carrot. 2-term, 6years, retirement .... and STATUS TRANSFER OF Armed crimes and VICTIMS !!!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Altona

Let's not talk about the Constitution. In any bourgeois state, it is "torn" out of necessity, and we are no exception.

In the United States, in its entire history, there is only the "Bill of Rights", in which several amendments have been made over the entire period of their existence. And they take the oath not on the constitution but on the Bible.
Like so

[businessv]

Quote: Alex Nevs

Twice the rope jumped their constitution. TWICE!.

What are you talking about, colleague ?! The Main Law is rewritten with every new prezik! Each of her, the poor fellow, is remodeling as he pleases, so you were modest and very!

[anjey]

According to Vladimir Putin, the Russian side did not agree on the eve of changing the clauses of the Minsk agreements, for the reason that Ukrainian radicals may go to "purges" on the territory of the LPNR.

GDP looks into the water, ukronatsi sleep and see such a scenario with the secret and quiet support of European hypocrites ...

[Altona]

Quote: anjey

GDP looks into the water

-----------------------------
And there you don't even need to look, nobody touched Avakov during the change of government. And he is the curator of the informal armed component of the national persuasion. So the king is under the supervision of a "patriotic".

[anjey]

Yes, paradoxically, Avakov went in the role of "overseer" for Zelensky
The latter does not do this honor from the word at all.

[monah]

Quote: olimpiada15

Zelensky is not a friend. There are no comrades in that environment

I agree. There are very few friends in business and politics! At best, temporary partners or vassals. Brothers and non-brothers are an example of this. Until a political decision is made, nothing will change! Is Zelya capable of this? Without this, there are only two options, Kuev recognizes the special status of Donbas and introduces it into the Constitution, or Donbas capitulates, recognizes Bender and Shukhevych as heroes and together yells "glory to the heroes". And then who will blink first.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

GDP- was silent. Zelya - posed like a jester. And really, they didn’t decide. They also promised to supply gas, another 10 years ... Let's see what will happen at the next meeting ...

[taiga2018]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

And really, they didn’t decide.

Politicians are such politicians, because it is clear that everything remains as before, and they behave as if all problems have been resolved ... We can say that the conflict goes into a state of freezing ...

[loki565]

It was necessary to solve gas, JV2 is not there yet, there is no South Stream either, and contractual obligations with Europe must be fulfilled. And how to build, then we'll see, at least there will be an extra trump in the sleeve)))

[Ironcity]

But nothing will happen. This is a game of giveaways, nobody needs these LDNRs. Would Russia need it, would have long held a referendum, as in the Crimea, but what for?
And Ukraine can forever change places or add new ones, bargain for other conditions. Zelensky has enough of his problems, why does he need a territory with a war-ruined economy and an embittered population? So they are negotiating, the purpose of which is not to agree, but to provoke the opponent to sharp rash actions.

[Alex Nevs]

And in his thoughts, "Do you see a hole from a donut? ... Nobody sees ... But it has already been swallowed up .." So they are fighting ... And they did not understand that they were so "fought".

[Xenofont]

Maybe it's time, in the light of the demonstrated complete hopelessness of the treaties with "Banderstadt", to begin to really integrate Donbas into Russia? Can we kick out the wolf-businessmen who take advantage of the desperate situation of the Republics and rob them under high patronage, and help to improve the economy? With proper organization, the Republics may well become economically self-sufficient. And cleaning the leadership is not a sin. There are a lot of ways! Much can be done through South Ossetia and Abkhazia. After all, the people are not ironclad to endure this interdisciplinary state and wait for the next peacekeepers to let them "under the knife".

[Igoresha]

Can throw out a wolf businessmen

just now, relatives from Lugansk sent a photo of the check from the pharmacy, the medicine costs 482 rubles, looked in the pharmacy online store Tabletki.ua in Kharkov - 550 UAH. In terms of prices, everything has stabilized there for a long time, even fat at the price of Ukrainian))

[Xenofont]

Yes, I'm not talking about that! How much do you buy coal and other things from the manufacturer, what would then be for the kakelam to get it? And what salaries are from here?

[Saboteur Holuy]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are now well prepared, especially the Special Forces, their DRGs proved to be just professional ....

[Zeev Zeev]

Yes, there was genocide in Srebrenica. Yes, the Dutch peacekeepers did not prevent him, fearing for their lives. Just why no one remembered who committed the massacre in Srebrenica?

[Xenofont]

There, the story is muddy and Westerners are distorted to complete disgrace.

[Zeev Zeev]

The story is absolutely not muddy. Serbs staged mass killings of Bosnians on a national basis. Like it or not.

[Xenofont]

This is your interpretation.

[Zeev Zeev]

This is an interpretation recognized by the tribunal for the former Yugoslavia and the government of Serbia, as well as Serbian Krajina

[Xenofont]

That current about the tribunal is not necessary! We know his clear commitment. A lot of crimes are attributed to your state at different levels, and you easily reject everything as bias and slander.
Delponto to help you.

[Zeev Zeev]

Thanks, made fun

[Xenofont]

Welcome! The arguments are over ... The typical "shake-off" is rather pathetic.

[Idunavs]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

The story is absolutely not muddy. Serbs staged mass killings of Bosnians on a national basis. Like it or not.

So what, I would also arrange such a genocide for Ukrainian radicals, a couple of tens of thousands of which prevents two countries from living at the same time! Everyone would feel better.

[Zeev Zeev]

Yeah. After ethnic cleansing, Serbs feel much better

[Tersky]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Just why no one remembered who committed the massacre in Srebrenica?

Burning with the desire to start a srach? With massacre, does nationality matter or the number of victims? You still remember the night of the Long Knives. Putin brought the genocide in Srebrenica for one reason, for the West this is the most acceptable example, what would have come to them is what awaits the Republic if they are transferred to Ukraine without fulfilling the conditions of the Minsk agreements, because they do not remember and do not know the other.

[Zeev Zeev]

Neither Donetsk nor Lugansk expects anything. As nothing happened, neither with Kramatorsk, nor with Slavic, nor with Mariupol.

[Alevil]

How do you know that nothing happened there? You were there? Do you know well how SBU and other Nazi units work?
Say also that the Nazis, along with their Ukrainian assistants, did not kill Jews.

[Zeev Zeev]

Actually, I know. But not the point. What do you know?

[Alevil]

And how do you know that?
I know about Odessa. I saw people jumping out of windows. I know that according to official figures, almost 50 people died. Ukrainians are not fools either, now they will not openly burn and kill people during arrests. They did this and are doing it secretly.
I also know about the words of the Prime Minister of Ukraine, Yatsenyuk, when he said that the inhabitants of Donbass are subhuman. This was said by the official and there were no refutations, but there were only solid confirmations. These are the words of the genocide, one of the first persons in Ukraine.

[Zeev Zeev]

How did it all start in Odessa? Do you know that? About the collision in Greek, for example?

[Alevil]

You did not answer my question.

[Zeev Zeev]

52% of Donbass is under Ukrainian rule. The Internet works in this area. You can get to know the locals yourself and find out how many of their friends were killed by the "Nazis"

[Alevil]

Nazi terror is flourishing on the outskirts, when it’s rather scary to write the truth, because SBU and other scum are not asleep. At least I have acquaintances whose relatives live on the outskirts and, having arrived here, they said that they were afraid to talk on the phone too much, they were afraid to write on the Internet about the Russophobic policy of neo-Bandera.

[Zeev Zeev]

I have a friend who has relatives who are so afraid to live in Ukraine that they don’t flee from there ...

[Alevil]

Taking into account your words about flight, we can conclude that in today's Ukraine there is complete darkness and fear: in 1991, about 52 million inhabitants lived there, but now, according to experts, 24-35 million (according to various estimates). And not all are extinct. Most of them simply fled from this "paradise" because of hopelessness and fear.
By the way, one acquaintance from Kharkov once wrote something like the following: "This Ukraine would have ended sooner."

[Zeev Zeev]

If someone does not like something in the country of residence, there is always the opportunity to move to another country.

[Alevil]

And why should people move to another country from their homeland, the homeland of their ancestors? Because of some sort of Bandera scum that came to power? The duty of every real person is to resist Bandera evil.

[Zeev Zeev]

Why move? Because he feels bad there. By the way, what are his ancestors there? Dad mom or great-grandfather-Ukrainian?

[Alevil]

Ukrainians were invented in the 19th century. I should know that
If he is a native of New Russia, where Ukraine and Ukrainians have never been heard of in the 20th century, then why on earth is this not his land? And his ancestor is RUSSIAN, who could have a Little Russian surname.

[Zeev Zeev]

Ukrainians were invented in the 19th century? Oooh, how everything was started ... But did they come up with the Austro-Hungarian General Staff, as I understand it? At the same time, they gave birth to Kotlyarevsky, Shevchenko, drew Boplan's "General Plan of Ukraine" in 1648, forged the orders of Peter the Great, sending Menshikov to Ukraine, and A.S. Pushkin's poem "Poltava", and at the same time the Boyarsky judgment of 1677 of Tsar Fyodor Alekseevich " About the return of the cities to the Ukrainian children of those Boyar lands and wild fields "... Well, okay.

[Alevil]

Yes, you have it all running, as I see. Kotlyarevsky and Shevchenko wrote in the Little Russian dialect of the Russian language and did not consider themselves to be any "Ukrainians". Ukraine is the same as the outskirts. The name "Ukraine", as a designation of a specific territory of Little Russia (which did not include either Novorossia or Galicia), actually appeared in the 17th century. So what? It doesn't prove anything. By the way, Bogdan Khmelnitsky called himself a Russian gentry.

[Zeev Zeev]

And the Moscow Tsar called Ukrainians.

[Alevil]

So the Moscow Tsar called the Ukrainian lands and Smolensk, and Vitebsk, and the developed lands of Siberia were also Ukrainian. Surely, the people living there were also called Ukrainians. It turns out that all the Russian borderlands are native Ukrainian lands

[Zeev Zeev]

Actually, this decree refers specifically to Ukraine and Ukrainians. Vitebsk until 1772 was not near Moscow.

[Alevil]

Ukrainians are nothing more than residents of the outskirts. If you mean Little Russians, then these are the same Russian people. By the way, the Poles, calling a specific territory Ukraine, once again showed their arrogance and arrogance: there was, they say, before Russia with the capital in Kiev, and Ukraine became the outskirts of Poland ... No one could have imagined that anyone would ever - or will be proud of the name "Ukrainian".

[Alevil]

Another great quote from Shirokorad:
Thus, even after the collapse of the Commonwealth, Right-Bank Ukraine remained under the rule of Polish lords, the nobility and the townspeople spoke Polish and were influenced by Polish culture.
Most Poles in the Right Bank hated Russians, although many carefully concealed this. Therefore, they did their best to set up the local population against the tsarist administration, the Russian language and Russian culture. The Poles proved to the population that they were not Russian, but belong to a completely different nationality. By the way, it was the Poles who came up with the “Ukrainian” nationality. Until 1792, not a single resident of Little Russia, Volyn, or Galicia ever called himself a Ukrainian, but only Russian or Rusyns.

[Alevil]

Vitebsk was for some time a part of the Russian state during the Livonian War.

[Alevil]

And in more interesting information from the book by A. Shirokorad "Ukraine - the confrontation of the regions."

"Visiting the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Moscow in 1523-1524, Pope Clement VII's ambassador, Albert Kampenze, wrote to Rome that the inhabitants of Russia, both Lithuanian and Moscow, are considered one people, since" they speak the same language and profess one faith. "

The dominance of the “Moscow language” in Lithuania was complained by the Lithuanian writer of the XNUMXth century, Michalon Litvin, and the Polish king Jan Casimir, in his speech in the Sejm, pointed out that the main threat of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth lies in the gravitation of the population of Little Russian and Belarusian lands to Moscow, “the language associated with them and by faith. "

In 1561, the monk Isaiah from the city of Kamenets of Poland went to Moscow to get the original books in Russian to print their word for word: “... in our state, the Christian Rus’s Grand Duchy of Lithuania will be issued with Christian embossing printed on our people, and Russian Moscow. "

In 1619, the famous writer and publicist of Lithuanian Russia Meletiy Smotrytsky (1578-1633) published a Russian grammar, according to which all educated people of Russia, including M.V. Lomonosov. (Or maybe Lomonosov studied the Belarusian or Ukrainian languages?)

Denis Ivanovich Zubritsky (1777-1862), a representative of an ancient Galician-Russian noble family, wrote: “In my opinion, the Russian people are from the banks of the Tisza and Pannonia to the banks of the Volga, from the banks of the Vistula to the Russian Sea ... there are indigenous people in this land. We have been in Galicia for 500 years under foreign authority, the Russian name during the Polish yoke was the subject of swearing and vilification, but all in vain, we were proud of our name and origin and remained Russian. This is of course also about Hungarian Russians ... ””.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

If someone does not like something in the country of residence, there is always the opportunity to move to another country.

then what claims to the Crimeans ???

[Zeev Zeev]

Do I have a complaint about Crimeans? There are none, they do not care for me. And Ukrainians obviously have it. For example, why Goblin Aksenov did not dump in his native Balti (Moldova), and Natalka Poklonskaya why she violated the oath to the people of Ukraine.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Do I have a complaint about Crimeans? There are none, they do not care for me. And Ukrainians obviously have it. For example, why Goblin Aksenov did not dump in his native Balti (Moldova), and Natalka Poklonskaya why she violated the oath to the people of Ukraine.

patamushta your favorite gunpowder did not dump in Moldova !!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

How did it all start in Odessa?

know ... from the armed coup in Kiev !!!

[Zeev Zeev]

I am interested in the day of May 2, 2014. How it all began, who was the attacking side, who are the dead ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

I am interested in the day of May 2, 2014.

this is all your problem with troubles !!! you think that it all started just like that ... but you forget about the jumps of the Maidanashki with the subsequent armed coup !!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Actually, I know. But not the point. What do you know?

Strange of you Jew !!! or you, like Zelensky, just mow under the Jew ?? !!!

[Zeev Zeev]

Zelensky doesn’t mow under, this disgrace of the Jewish people (for his mother) simply does not have a clear cultural, national and state self-identification. Scoop what to take from it.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Zelensky doesn’t mow under, this disgrace of the Jewish people (for his mother) simply does not have a clear cultural, national and state self-identification. Scoop what to take from it.

Apparently, it’s a disgrace not a current ... your netanyah, smiling at the Nazi salute from ukrokaraul, is a capital shame !!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Yes, the Dutch peacekeepers did not prevent him, fearing for their lives.

such an excuse should not roll .... indulgence in a war crime - this is not a crime of small gravity to you !!! and these bastards right now blame Russia for knocking over vna bong !!

[Zeev Zeev]

Indulgence is how? The Netherlands did not arm the Serbs who slaughtered Muslims and did not take part in this war.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Indulgence is how?

Quote: Zeev Zeev
Yes, the Dutch peacekeepers did not prevent him, fearing for their lives.

[demo]

If Ukraine gains control of the border without observing the preliminary agreements laid down in Minsk, then a new Srebrenica may arise on the territory of the LPR and DPR due to Ukrainian nationalists. They can arrange it there.

In the case of the implementation of this paragraph, Ukrainian nationalists can arrange this immediately, but in a year, two or three.
There would be a desire.
This is by the way.

Hope, so to speak. most likely consists in another.
In the case of the return of LDNR to Ukraine’s control, this can cause such centripetal tendencies that all this unfinished simply collapse.
And Natsik do not understand this.
They would have everything that does not accept their ideology should be sent to free swimming.
And they are trying to reformat the people.
As long as Russia is nearby, their idea is doomed to failure.
This they will not understand.
And failure leads to the total eradication of any national idea.
Whatever she is.
Eradication is precisely with carriers.

And then Srebrenica will seem like a Sunday children's party.

[demo]

No. What do you.
They will show tolerance, philanthropy, tolerance.
Especially after five years of previous events.
When just to kill someone fired at the Donbass.
Are you expecting me to add an epithet to you?
The moderator will not miss.

But I will inform you that the moderator is not interested.
I have always been like you and will be extremely negative.
"Your father is a liar. And you are liars."
I think you know who told whom.

[Zhivan]

Several thousand Serbs were killed in Srebrenica (1992-1993) !!!
What happened in 1995 is not fully established !!!

[Zeev Zeev]

Everything is fully installed. And the war crimes of the Serbs, and Croats, and Bosnians.

[Butchcassidy]

Are you talking about the Hague Tribunal or something? Do not make me laugh. This is the judgment of the Serbs.

[Zeev Zeev]

Yeah. And for some reason they plant Croats and Bosnians.

[Butchcassidy]

Are you joking or don’t own a question at all? You look how many Serbs planted and how many others? Does your name Hashima Tachi say something? He personally has hands in hands in blood - and nothing, neither more nor less - the Prime Minister of Kosovo.

Have you read the memoirs of the prosecutor of the Hague Tribunal Carla Del Ponte?

[Zeev Zeev]

Serbs are planted mainly because most war crimes were committed by the Serbs. Not because Croats and Bosnians are so cute, but Serbs are monsters. Just because of their quantitative superiority and better weapons, the Serbs had more options for mass executions, blockades and ethnic cleansing.

[Butchcassidy]

No, because what you say is a lie, a lie and a provocation. I gave you a link to the source of what confirms my words. And not just a source, but the recollections of the prosecutor of the Hague Tribunal. When you read them, then back to this conversation. In the meantime, you are incompetent in this matter and your knowledge of the conflict and the Hague court at the level of the European citizen.

About such "trifles" as the murder of Milosevic in the dungeons of the tribunal by not providing him with proper medical assistance - I generally keep quiet. My attitude to the Hague is best illustrated by the words of the Serbian general Ratko Mladic:

“You are a NATO court. You judge me and my people as a court of NATO. You have no right to do so. You are biased. ”

[Zeev Zeev]

Is Ratko Mladic who sits behind the massacre in Srebrenica?

[Butchcassidy]

Do you know many Serbian generals by the name of Ratko Mladic?

In my opinion, you just overflow from empty to empty. Yes, and on a serious topic, in which you don’t understand a squirrel.

[Zeev Zeev]

That is, the statements of Ratko Mladic, on whose order about 8000 civilians were killed, are authoritative, but there is no court decision? In the former Yugoslavia, EVERYONE was involved in war crimes. Judging by these crimes ALL.

[Butchcassidy]

They explained everything to you in Russian in white. But you, like a ram, have rested and continue to believe the decisions of the Hague Tribunal as Torah.

I asked a simple question - did you read the memoirs of Carla Del Ponte? You were silent. From which I conclude that you have not read anything.

Therefore, you understand this issue as a non-kosher pig in oranges.

Further, you are aware that Vojislav Seshel has not been charged for 12 years - can this be called justice at all? Further. The same tribunal fully acquitted Sheshel, but the composition of the judges was changed and they passed a guilty verdict. Those. there is a political decision precisely on the conviction. Did these judges refuse to make an indictment? No problem, we will find other judges.

Further, neither Hashim Thaçi, nor Aliya Izetbegovic were even charged with anything, although according to the testimony of Carla Del Ponte there is convincing evidence of personal involvement in the murder of Serbs and the organization of "black" transplantation of their organs by Hashim Thaçi? All this happened with the participation of two surgeons - from Turkey and Israel.

But you can continue to believe the decisions of the Hague Tribunal and build on that the degenerative conclusions that these decisions reflect reality and indicate that the Serbs committed several more crimes.

[Butchcassidy]

[media = http: // https: //youtu.be/vVkW_cmWBNU]

Here is a video where General Ratko Mladic personally enters every bus that took civilians out of Srebrenica, introduces himself and gives parting words on the road!

The fact that Srebrenica will be taken by storm Mladic warned in advance. And organized the export of civilians.

And yes, in Srebrenica, the Serbs formally committed a crime. The fact that they did not take prisoners. Because the 2 "Mujahideen" killed there - the then "ISIS" (ISIS * - a banned organization) did this with young children and pregnant women, which is impossible even to describe. Although, from my point of view, this is a deserved execution before God and people, and not a crime.

Thank God that the videoconferencing ironed most of the barmaley and in the same Bosnia and Herzegovina most of them will never return, and will remain there to fertilize the land of Syria.

[Lord of the Sith]

The first question is "if they enter," the second is "how will they enter, how will they leave?"

We do not have Paris here, they will not stand on ceremony)

And about the borders it’s ridiculous who will give them away?)))

[eagle owl]

Exactly. Bredyatina this

[Xenofont]

Kakela really think of you as a sacred sacrifice on the altar of the "puppy-dead Ceevropa". Replaced in the minds of the memories of broken faces on mythical "victories"!

[Nikolai]

All the problems are that the new Ukrainian regime in 2014 was officially recognized by the Russian authorities. If this did not happen, the situation today would be completely different — in Russia's favor. And in gas issues and in the Donbass and in the Crimea and in everything else. Now a timid attempt is being made to create a tribunal for crimes of Ukraine against Crimean citizens (blockade on water, electric energy, gas, transport) and so on. But so timid! And what will come of this ?! Here the Kremlin is spinning like a frying pan. Longing takes. It is not too late to denounce recognition, it is never too late to create a Ukrainian government in exile, it is not too late to declare everywhere the illegitimacy and crimes of the new Ukrainian government. Poklonskaya, where are you !?

[Kronos]

In general, it is not late when his whole world recognized

[eagle owl]

Can not. If they even surrender, they won’t LEAVE from there, but those who simply wouldn’t let Srebnyanka do not.

[Avior]

It is unclear what is meant
The implementation of the Minsk Agreements is precisely what this suggests, the difference is only in the order of implementation
What will the accepted papers give if the voiced threat is real?

[parusnik]

Serebrenitsa will happen, no matter what border international "peacekeepers" are, the border with Russia or the border of the LPR and 404 ..

[GUSAR]

"A new Srebrenica may arise" ... But what was in the "old"? And if, nevertheless, it does arise, will it not be someone else's fault?

[Zhivan]

Srebrenica will not happen again, more recently Kosovo !!!

[Yuri]

The author reasonably explains why Srebrenica is mentioned as an example. But still actually recognize this heinous Western falsification is very ugly and counterproductive. In Srebrenica, the West mourned the adored, precious Bosniaks, and in the Donbas, Russians were dying, so that there would not scare anyone with this GDP

[Vladimir61]

Today I was on a one-day visit to my small homeland, the LPR. While the control was underway, at the Izvarino checkpoint, as always, it was long and sad, during the smoke breaks in the "column" there was nothing but talk - what next? Mainly worried about the issue of handing over borders. I would like to believe that it was not in vain that VVP said, "If you surrender the border to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it will be a massacre in Srebrenica!"
Hope dies last!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vladimir61

Mostly worried about the subject of surrendering borders

Read "Minskie" at your leisure. There is no "putting"borders.

Details needed - I can explain.

[Kronos]

In general, there it is a transfer to the Ukrainian side

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Kronos

In general ...

... I did not address you. Anyway.

"Generally" before transfer - there are a number of points that must be fulfilled. Are you sure you know what these items are? Buddy

[Kronos]

What will prevent them from formally fulfilling them and then playing back everything or just pushing the USA we will lift your sanctions and do you agree to Putin so?

[Golovan Jack]

Clear. Bread - on Fridays, sorry.

[Kronos]

Clear answer no expected

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Kronos

no answer expected

I do not train beginner trolls. I'm not interested

[Tersky]

Quote: Kronos

What will prevent them from formally fulfilling them

Do you hold Emmanuel Macron and Angela Merkel for fools?

[Kronos]

No, I don’t keep strictly spitting on what is happening there and how Ukraine will do it, they simply close all eyes

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Read "Minskie" at your leisure. There is no "surrender" of boundaries.
Details needed - I can explain.

The background of what resulted in the appearance of what you want to explain to me, I felt on "my own skin", during the shelling in 2014-2015! And I remember well what was guaranteed by the complex of measures of the "Minsk agreements". Yes, there is no the words "surrender", there, - "restoration of full control over the state border from Ukraine." that, with self-preparation, everything is fine!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vladimir61

I have self-training, everything is fine!

I didn’t mean to infringe you somehow, ahem.

Quote: Vladimir61

The synonym "surrender", in the everyday life of the residents of the unconquered Donbass and sympathetic citizens, appeared after understanding how Ukraine is determined to fulfill them

You probably understand that if everything was decided by "Ukraine", the LPNR would not have been like that five years ago?

Quote: Vladimir61

"restoration of full control over the state border by Ukraine"

According to Minsky, this is preceded by:

- constitutional reform in Ukraine,

... which implies decentralization as a key element (taking into account the particularities of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, agreed with representatives of these regions), as well as the adoption of permanent legislation on the special status of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions

One who knows how to read will easily see here, for example, the LDNR's own armed forces. Legitimized. Type "part of the APU".

What do you think, under whose control will the border be transferred?

However - all this is so far from the current reality that you can even not think about it ... that there the Ukropresident has soaked his hopes - "no federalization"? Well, that means there is no border for you ...

That's about it, in short.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Golovan Jack

I didn’t mean to infringe you somehow, ahem.

I, to you personally, no complaints! Politicians and experts have been talking about it for six years now, but the truth is "somewhere "And I think your answer is normal, not worthy of a minus.

[frizzy]

As a result of the meeting in Paris, he was finally convinced that big politics is pure water - prostitution !!!!

[Deathmaker]

Avakov will lead them, as usual. Actually this is now the second person in the state, after Beni.
Vova gave a bad example. Srebrenica did not appear out of the blue - it was a response for ethnic cleansing "as a result of which about 2383 Serbian women and children died" (c) Viki

[babylon]

It will be fair if, in return, the Donetsk one takes control of Kiyov))

[Butchcassidy]

I DO NOT like this comparison with Srebrenica. Given the stories with empty coffins, the doubling or even zaprodivanie names of the dead or recording in the number of victims of the dead by the armed Bosniaks or those who died or died before the events of Srebrenica.

Although the idea is very clear - no one will give LDNR to the Bandera skating rink.

[7,62x54]

Srebrenica will arise if the Russian president does not stand up for LDNR, just as they did not stand up for the Serbs at the time. And not only for the Serbs.

[Lena Petrova]

Yes, there will be no integrations. Ukraine is not ready, and it is not able to fulfill any point of all these agreements. That's all built on. They will give the republic, immediately the bodyagion with the Crimea will begin.

[Basarev]

Isn’t it easier to finally recognize these republics or even let them into Russia? Against Russia, these cowardly scum just do not climb. And no Srebrenits.

[Kronos]

And who killed the Russian military in 2017 or the boats that tried to break through? Do not underestimate them.

[Chaldon48]

It is necessary to maintain an extremely tough stance with Ukraine and do everything possible so that contacts with the United States are less close

[the same doctor]

Putin took away pensions from the Russians of his country. Do you believe that he is worried about the fate of the Russian Donbass?