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American expert: US invasion was good for Panama

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Today, Panama is thriving in many respects thanks to the American invasion of 1989, writes American expert Eric Farnsworth.


Almost thirty years have passed since President George W. Bush ordered the U.S. military to overthrow dictator Manuel Noriega on 20 December 1989 and retain the Panama Canal as an American strategic asset.

Noriega's forces were defeated, and he himself was brought to the United States for trial. Shortly after the end of hostilities, Washington provided a generous package of financial assistance to restore the affected regions of the country.

Today, Panama’s economic growth averaged almost 6% a year since the restoration of democracy, and free voting and peaceful transfer of power in 2019 show that democracy is safe. And although the Panamanian people have largely achieved this themselves, Mr. Farnsworth emphasizes, the path would have been immeasurably more difficult if the United States had not intervened to eliminate the dictator, later working with Panamanian leaders on democratic and economic reforms.

At the same time, the author of the publication continues, the provocative question is appropriate: where would the country be today without a US military invasion? Be that as it may, Mr. Farnsworth says to himself, Panama most likely would not have been so successful.

At the same time, Mr. Farnsworth for some reason does not talk about what "bonuses" the United States received, in fact, remaining the controlling force in the Panama Canal zone. The American expert also does not cover why, after the US invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, these countries did not become more successful.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 November 2019 18: 25
    +1
    Figures are numbers, but what is it like to live under the yoke of understanding that you became a participant in a political action during which one of your friends died? Why did you lose some of your freedom?
    1. MoJloT
      MoJloT 28 November 2019 18: 29
      -4
      You live normally?) 91-93 remember?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2019 18: 49
        +12
        Quote: MoJloT
        91-93 remember?

        At the time of the collapse of the KTOF, the 2nd Red Banner Submarine Flotilla had 5 divisions with a total of 42 nuclear submarines. Already by 1998, it was transformed into the 16th submarine squadron, but already the Pacific Fleet and had 20 nuclear submarines, now only 7 nuclear submarines (the youngest submarine "Ryazan" in 1982) does not pull one division). The cruiser "Varyag", the destroyer "Skoriy", three BODs and two corvettes remained from the surface fleet. We all the sailors remember, we remember everything. Amen.
        1. krot
          krot 29 November 2019 08: 15
          -1
          American expert: US invasion was good for Panama

          Let him say this to all those killed from the "blissful" US invasions around the world.
          1. Terentich
            Terentich 29 November 2019 09: 59
            0
            Quote: krot
            Let him say this to all those killed from the "blissful" US invasions around the world.

            It would be great if for the eternally rallying people on the site they would make a separate thread with comments or something like that ... and it’s not enough that it is impossible to seriously discuss a single topic with them, since they are still all armed with minusciers with large ammunition. Oh dreams ... hi
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 28 November 2019 18: 52
        +8
        What are all the same cynical mattress covers! When Noriego decided to bite off a fatty piece of the Panama Canal pie for his state, he immediately became a dictator and drug dealer! Before that - he was white and fluffy and with a halo on his head! And most importantly, everyone grabbed this bullshit fool True, the countries of the socialist camps (almost already former) were indignant for the look, and everyone calmed down on this.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 November 2019 08: 48
          0
          Quote: Proxima
          And most importantly, they all grabbed this bullshit, though the countries of the socialist camp (almost already former) were indignant for a look and everybody calmed down on this.

          Who has more havalnik and bursts, and the rest drool.
      3. 4ekist
        4ekist 28 November 2019 19: 06
        +2
        Yes, we remember well, we will never forget.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 28 November 2019 18: 32
      +5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Figures are numbers, but what is it like to live under the yoke of understanding that you became a participant in a political action during which one of your friends died?

      The Japanese can tell about this - should they not know how they burn in the rays of an artificial "democratic" sun:
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 28 November 2019 18: 33
        0
        It didn’t work the first time:
        1. Aleksandre
          Aleksandre 28 November 2019 19: 02
          +4
          This staged photo is so real are much less beautiful.
    3. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 28 November 2019 19: 37
      +1
      He confirmed an armed invasion.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 28 November 2019 18: 29
    +4
    So, of course, they made Panama prosperous so that it would remove its eye from the Panama Canal and no longer drop in, a kind of compensation .. smile
    1. boss
      boss 28 November 2019 20: 44
      +1
      but would be VERY rich, and not just well-fed.
      Americans stupidly rob Panama, taking the lion's share of the income from the operation of the channel.
      Panama absolutely does not need development tips.
      noriega refused to renew the contract and wanted to return the channel to his country, as a result he became both a drug dealer and a dictator and a corrupt person in one person immediately and irrevocably
      Ah, well, they judged him, what a coincidence, in the USA
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 28 November 2019 21: 40
        -10
        would be VERY rich, not just well-fed.


        Really? Rich as Venezuela, who was the most prosperous country in Latin America under democracy? And now 20% of the population have fled from it and 5 people will soon remain there, die of hunger and without electricity ....

        Can you judge with impartiality or is it just the TV ringing in your head?
        1. boss
          boss 28 November 2019 22: 44
          +7
          analogy is not appropriate.
          noriega was not an ideological politician.
          but he naively believed that the proceeds from the Panama Canal belong to the Panamanian people, and not to the people of the United States.
          and also thought that he, as the head of an independent state, had every right not to renew the contract, according to which the control of the Panama Canal belonged to the United States.
          and just then, I repeat, was branded as a smuggler, as a drug dealer, as a corrupt official and dictator.
          it was then that the usa committed aggression against the state of panama.
          Panamanian soldiers were killed, as well as other citizens of Panama carrying out their civil and professional duty, who defended their country and the president.
          They stole the norieu, and the next (pocket) signed.
          and all income in the usa, and panama handouts.
          right, yes?
          and don’t need politicking, I haven’t watched TV for a long time, but about money, they taught me not bad.
  3. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 28 November 2019 18: 31
    +3
    The American expert also does not cover why, after the US invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, these countries did not become more successful.

    Not yet evening. Has time to light.
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 28 November 2019 18: 32
    +1
    The word "invasion" does not mean anything good anymore ....... mattresses, what to take from them ...
  5. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 November 2019 18: 37
    +2
    Shortly after the end of hostilities, Washington provided a generous package of financial assistance to restore the affected regions of the country.
    And all together believed in such generosity of the greedy Anglo-Saxons, but they drank all the juices from the country, that's for sure. At the same time, they preserved such a fatty piece as the Panama Canal. And this is called beneficence. Truly democracy according to I.V. Stalin's "Democracy is a perverted form of the bourgeois state."
    1. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 28 November 2019 19: 18
      -1
      And who dug the Panama Canal, do not tell?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2019 19: 45
        +3
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        And who dug the Panama Canal, do not tell?

        An ancient error 404, but what did you know?
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 28 November 2019 19: 55
        0
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        And who dug the Panama Canal, do not tell?

        And who separated the state of Panama from Colombia?
      3. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 28 November 2019 19: 57
        +5
        The French began. Under an agreement with Colombia, if the canal did not begin to function by 1904, it became the property of Colombia. To prevent this from happening, the Americans destroyed Colombia, turning Panama into a puppet state.
        So the Panama Canal was torn away by the United States from Colombia.
      4. Katanikotael
        Katanikotael 28 November 2019 19: 59
        +1
        The project is French, built by blacks, but of course the merit is by Americans.
        1. maden.usmanow
          maden.usmanow 30 November 2019 09: 59
          0
          Negroes mean?
          But BAM and TransSIB built prisoners, then what?
          1. Katanikotael
            Katanikotael 30 November 2019 18: 25
            0
            Of course, you also have pictures with builder-prisoners, right?
            But in the archives it is clearly said that tens of thousands of qualified builders were sent to the construction of the Transsib, what you call "prisoners" were exiles (forcibly resettled for the development of Siberia) who, of course, were attracted to the construction and, oh horror, they were paid good money at that time ! And unlike the blacks at the Panamanian construction site, they did not die en masse, 70 thousand if I am not mistaken, and the channel is only 80 kilometers away.
  6. Masha
    Masha 28 November 2019 18: 42
    +5
    you will not praise yourself, no one will praise ....
  7. Igorpl
    Igorpl 28 November 2019 18: 47
    +3
    He modestly kept silent about the fact that Panama was originally part of Colombia and separated with the help of America.
  8. Starper-xnumx
    Starper-xnumx 28 November 2019 18: 47
    +4
    Panama thrives today thanks in large part to the American invasion of 1989.

    I remember the same articles in the late 80s and early 90s ..
    That again the wave begins like "now would be drinking Bovarian beer and ate hot dogs with sausages" ..?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 November 2019 19: 47
      0
      Quote: Starper-777
      ovarian beer and hot dogs sausages ate "..?

      Or maybe German bowlers would lick.
      1. Evil echo
        Evil echo 28 November 2019 22: 28
        +2
        This is if there was someone, most likely there was no one to lick.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 28 November 2019 19: 57
      +1
      Quote: Starper-777
      I remember the same articles in the late 80s and early 90s ..

      Just about Panama little was written.
      1. Starper-xnumx
        Starper-xnumx 28 November 2019 20: 10
        +2
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: Starper-777
        I remember the same articles in the late 80s and early 90s ..

        Just about Panama little was written.

        Few and yet I remember well, this impudent intervention to capture and control the Panama Canal .. hi
    3. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi 28 November 2019 19: 59
      +1
      And they were perplexed at the option - "would be processed into laundry soap."
      So, the raw materials for soap consider themselves worthy of free beer ...
  9. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 28 November 2019 19: 01
    0
    They bought it corny, and do not touch it, that's the guarantee of "prosperity".

    It would be necessary to mine the channel by the very slippers, I would see how the Yankees howl with rage))
    1. eklmn
      eklmn 28 November 2019 19: 27
      -2
      Google how many Russian ships pass through the channel, including the military ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 November 2019 19: 51
        +1
        Quote: eklmn
        Russian ships passes through the canal, including military ...

        The ship is already originally a military ship. But none of the warships probably went through Panama since 1991. And they are private civil courts, then what matters to them is the private owner’s business, whether or not to walk.
        1. eklmn
          eklmn 28 November 2019 20: 02
          -4
          Passage of the cruiser “Moscow” through the PC in 2013.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUgHSHMDwX8
          And also in 2019, with delays, but crossed the PC.
          So mine the channel, then just before the passage of your ships, do not mind ...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 November 2019 20: 09
            0
            Quote: eklmn
            The passage of the cruiser “Moscow” through the PC in 2013

            It was exactly once in 2013, but I don’t remember anymore. And you would only mine everything. Nikah lad from Ukraine?
            1. eklmn
              eklmn 28 November 2019 20: 13
              0
              “It would be necessary to mine the channel by the very slippers, I would see how the Yanks howl with rage))”
              The quote is not mine ....
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 November 2019 20: 18
            0
            Quote: eklmn
            So mine the channel, then just before the passage of your ships, do not mind ...

            Well, how is it not yours? And whose.
            1. eklmn
              eklmn 28 November 2019 23: 09
              0
              This is my quote. But this is the answer to:
              “..It would be necessary to mine the channel by the very slippers, I would see how the Yankees howl with rage” (see above), you are our big-eyed ....
  10. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 28 November 2019 19: 25
    +3
    It remains only to pray to God that the United States will feel in its own skin. What is occupation and the arrival of a foreign army in the country
  11. Avior
    Avior 28 November 2019 19: 29
    +3
    The author, it seems, is not aware that in 1977 the USA signed an agreement with Panama that the channel built by the Americans from 2000 will become the property of Panama.
    And, which is characteristic, it passed on the indicated date, the USA does not currently have any relation to the ownership or management of the channel
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 29 November 2019 00: 19
      0
      Shh! For some, this will be a discovery.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 29 November 2019 00: 25
        +2
        Quote: Alex_You
        Shh! For some, this will be a discovery.

        There is a puppet state, without the United States, they won’t even utter a word, otherwise they will have a new arrival of democracy.
        1. Avior
          Avior 29 November 2019 00: 55
          0
          There, this year, Laurentino Cortiso was elected president, known for the scandal with a categorical refusal to sign a free trade agreement with the United States when he was the Minister of Agriculture.
          For a puppet atypical actually.
  12. eklmn
    eklmn 28 November 2019 19: 41
    -1
    “At the same time, Mr. Farnsworth for some reason does not talk about what kind of“ bonuses ”the United States received, actually remaining the controlling force in the Panama Canal zone.”
    In fact, the author of the article would do well to add that since 1999 the channel has been wholly owned by Panama.
    “In 1977, the United States and Panama signed the Carter-Torrijos treaties to establish basic guidelines for the canal until 1999 and to guarantee its continued neutrality. These treaties entered into force in 1979, and on December 31, 1999, Panama assumed full jurisdiction and operational control over the Channel. ”
    What bonuses did the amers get? 5-6 military bases plus a great place to retire. English the language is popular in the country, medicine is at the level of the USA, insurance is much lower, service is excellent, rent / purchase of good housing is cheaper than in ....
    The climate is humid, tropical, but after a couple of years you get used to it.
    1. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 28 November 2019 21: 07
      -1
      Of course, I'm sorry, but what kind of 5-6 US bases are you talking about? Since 2001, there is not a single American military base in Panama; the Panama Canal was transferred to the full ownership of Panama even earlier. The Panamanians had a thousand opportunities to revive their army, ban American ships from using the Canal, start building socialism, choose some Maduro or do some other such shit, but they just cut their heads off the Canal and work for the good of their country. But the American invasion left a deep wound in the souls of Panamanians - foreign aggression, even for good purposes, is always evil. We also need to remember this when we begin to provide "international military assistance" to the right and to the left. As Gabriel García Márquez said, "Liberators are not loved. From liberator to conqueror there is only one step - one step of a soldier."
  13. Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi 28 November 2019 19: 47
    0
    Crime - clearly correlates positively with "democracy" winked The number of killings per 100 thousand population:
    Cuba - 5
    Nicaragua - 7
    Panama - 9
    Puerto Rico - 18
    Moreover, Nicaragua and Panama went through the period of "dictators" (Panama later), Cuba is still "dictatorial", but Puerto Rico - 100% of the population has American citizenship.
    Nafig, nafig, such a democracy!
    1. eklmn
      eklmn 28 November 2019 20: 11
      0
      In the USSR, crime was also at the level of Cuba. And only when Gorbachev came, then it (crime) increased dozens of "times." Why would that be? Here it is, “fucking democracy and glasnost ...”
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 28 November 2019 20: 21
        0
        What's this. Under Yeltsin, the number of killings reached 78 thousand per year (in absolute numbers). And the Stalinist repressions were at the level of 18 thousand executed per year, with a maximum in the 35th year of 28-30 thousand.
        8 years of Yeltsin’s rule are equivalent to 50 years of Stalin’s repressions. angry
    2. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 28 November 2019 21: 10
      -2
      And under Hitler, there was no crime at all in Germany. Invite everyone to shout to Heil President, think help?
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 28 November 2019 22: 05
        +1
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        And under Hitler, there was no crime at all in Germany. Invite everyone to shout to Heil President, think help?

        Then there was a trial in Nuremberg. They don’t shout like that in Germany anymore. Immediately sent to prison.
    3. UserGun
      UserGun 29 November 2019 12: 20
      0
      Quote: Oo sarcasm
      Panama - 9


      It must be the same .... Less than in the Russian Federation (10.2) And in the Pagan USA, which we are always afraid of 4.8 !!! )))
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 29 November 2019 18: 55
        -1
        Duc is that ... Without the Papuans. Whom BlackWater, Lini England, Gina Haspel, glorious US aviators over weddings are killing - all this does not count. If you want to kill, the American government offers favorable conditions. Overseas USA.
        If, by the time of Bush’s reign, add 3 million killed by the Americans only in Iraq, it will be all 50, not 4,8.
  14. Mouse
    Mouse 28 November 2019 19: 51
    +2
    it seems like they justify themselves ... but those who are to blame justify themselves! yes
  15. marshes
    marshes 28 November 2019 20: 02
    +1
    Damn then the Americans got to the accounts of the Colombian drug cartels, correcting the economy.
    And that washing machine was covered.
    By the way, about Narco money, whoever looked at Ozark, There is an opinion that drug money saved the United States in the 2008 Mortgage Crisis, it was drug money that became the trigger, starter, and the US economy in further development.
  16. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 November 2019 21: 52
    0
    There is another story with the Suez Canal. Freedom through blood and the support of the powerful.
  17. BAI
    BAI 28 November 2019 22: 15
    +1
    thanks to the American invasion of 1989, writes American expert Eric Farnsworth.

    They also say about Serbia that the bombing went to her good.
  18. eklmn
    eklmn 28 November 2019 23: 27
    -2
    Quote: BAI
    They also say about Serbia that the bombing went to her good.

    It is not “they” say, it is the Serbs themselves. One must have a very strong will to admit it. And with such a will, the nation can only be proud. By the way, Serbia is actively cooperating with NATO and wants to join NATO. And this is after the bombing? And why?
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 29 November 2019 08: 46
      0
      It is not “they” say, it is the Serbs themselves.

      politicians say that. it is not the same
      By the way, Serbia is actively cooperating with NATO and wants to join NATO.

      before you carry this nonsense, try to answer the question - WHAT FOR Serbia's NATO? Is Serbia an external threat justifying joining such a militaristic bloc? Is Russia threatening her? Iran? or can Eun shake his nuclear club before the Serbs? When you read such pearls like yours, you always ask yourself: "what does this pisun think?"
      1. eklmn
        eklmn 29 November 2019 17: 27
        0
        "..." and what does this pisun think? "
        But the writer does not think, the writer knows. He knows from sources that they are not subject to blinded brainwashed, when thought_left thought_right is treason.
        Serbia wants to strengthen its cooperation with NATO (2019)
        https://ria.ru/20191113/1560887182.html
        Serbia will never be in NATO (2019)
        https://rg.ru/2019/03/23/aleksandr-vuchich-serbiia-nikogda-ne-budet-v-nato.html
        Will (or will not) depend on NATO and Serbia. NATO wants Serbia to recognize Kosovo. Without this, NATO will not be accepted.
        While Serbia wants to have neutrality and NATO supports it.
        But Serbia wants to have close ties with NATO, such as:
        https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_50100.htm
        “The NATO Military Liaison Office in Belgrade, established in December 2006, supports Serbian defense reforms, promotes Serb participation in PfP events, and supports NATO’s public diplomacy activities in the region.
        Since 2014, Serbia has been participating in the Military Education Development Program (DEEP), which supports Serbia's efforts to create an integrated and modern defense education system. Thanks to the DEEP program, Serbia is currently a networked provider of security services in the field of education and training and supports other DEEP programs, such as the one with Armenia.
        In addition, since 2014, as part of the Partnership Initiative, Serbia has taken part in the Interaction Platform, which brings together allies with 24 selected partners.
        Serbia offers expertise and training to allies and partners at the Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear Technology Training Center (CBRN) in Krusevac, which was recognized as the Partnership Training Center in 2013. ”
        Serbia is grateful to Russia for liberation from the Ottoman Empire, but Serbia’s friendship with Russia after that on the principle of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Serbs remember the attack on the country by Russia in 1914, remember Stalin, remember the neutrality of Russia during the anti-Milosevic protests, saw the “liberation of Crimea”.
        https://www.the-american-interest.com/2018/07/26/serbs-are-not-little-russians/
        “By supporting Serbia, Russia is experiencing its own desire for a multipolar order based on the concept of great powers. At the heart of this is Moscow’s attempt to reverse the unipolar world order that it perceived in the Balkans in the 1990s and to confirm its status as a global great power, which, in its opinion, was erroneously refuted by the West. But, trying to do it on the cheap, Russia has limited the extent of its influence. Moscow does not have a military presence in the Balkans; Putin pulled Russian peacekeepers out of Bosnia and Kosovo in 2003. Surprisingly, Serbia conducts much more military exercises with NATO and Western countries than with Russia. The European Union surpasses Russia in economic indicators in Serbia and, with the exception of the energy sector, is the largest investor and employer in Serbia. The European Union is also the country's largest donor. ”
        “... before you carry this nonsense, ...”
        Before calling the comment nonsense, try to get hold of the info from various sources and do not give in to your cave instinct.
        1. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 29 November 2019 19: 07
          -1
          And how the American Indians are thriving, surrounded by NATO - to describe with a pen or a tribunal to judge. It is for this, Native American prosperity that American politicians drown. Normal nonhumans must live on reservations. Outside of reservations, non-Americans are uncomfortable, and Americans alleviate their suffering by carpet bombing, napalm, dioxin, and the hard workers from Black Water in the sweat of their faces.
  19. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 29 November 2019 00: 39
    0
    I wonder if the wife or daughter of this American "expert" had been raped, and then given some money as compensation, he would have also treated this as an invasion of Panama, money would have compensated everything ?!
  20. Operator
    Operator 29 November 2019 18: 00
    +9
    Quote: eklmn
    Serbs remember the attack on the country by Russia in 1914

    ??
    1. eklmn
      eklmn 29 November 2019 23: 34
      +1
      From Wiki:
      “... the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand led Austria-Hungary to declare war on Serbia during the July crisis. Russia mobilized its armed forces in late July, ostensibly to defend Serbia, as well as to maintain its status as a great power, to strengthen influence in the Balkans and to contain Austria-Hungary and Germany. This made Germany declare war on Russia on August 1, ultimately turning the local conflict into a world war. ”
      Serbia did not need this war. “Allegedly protecting Serbia” by Russia led to MV1. And Serbia did NOT ask her to defend. Just the ambitions of great power, as it is today ...
      It is this moment that the Serbs remember - as hundreds of thousands of their own died with the “help” of Russia.
      But soon Russia will have its own Vicki, everything will be there “beautifully, truthfully, washed, approved”
  21. Operator
    Operator 29 November 2019 23: 56
    +7
    Quote: eklmn
    Serbia did not need this war. “Allegedly protecting Serbia” by Russia led to MV1. And Serbia did NOT ask her to defend

    What prevented the leadership of Serbia from publicly turning to Russia with a request not to enter the war with Austria-Hungary?

    The absence in the Serbian leadership of an alternatively gifted eklmn, isn’t it? laughing