Turbid water of Donbass: how the DNR gave Ukraine 330 million rubles


DNR repay debts. Ukrainian



Minister of Housing and Public Utilities Sergey Naumets said that over the past seven months Ukraine has not paid anything to the employees of the enterprise “Water of Donbass” living and working in the territory of the DPR, thus accumulating a debt of 330 million rubles. The minister promised that the republic will return the wage arrears to the employees of the enterprise before the end of the year.

A little earlier, on October 23, a resolution of the DPR Government No. 124 was adopted:
“To establish that on the territory of the DPR, settlements of the population for water supply and sanitation services provided by the public utility“ Water Donbass Company ”are carried out exclusively through the postal service of the SE“ Donbass Post ”and the central registry office of the DPR.”


That is, despite the fact that Ukraine stopped paying employees living in the DPR in April-May, all this time the republic continued to transfer funds for water supply to the Ukrainian side. Now, having thought better of it, she finally decided to break off strange schemes of cooperation with Water of Donbass and is ready to pay 330 millions of rubles for her own sluggishness.

Muddy schemes


In general, the fact of cooperation with the Ukrainian side, when DNR residents officially work for a Ukrainian company, pay taxes, including transferring 1,5% of their salary for the military needs of Kiev, looks at least crazy. It is clear that the work of the Seversky Donets-Donbass canal, which begins in the territory controlled by Ukraine and provides water with a significant part of the DPR and is controlled by Kiev Mariupol, is important for everyone, and it should be provided by all means. Nevertheless, such a scheme of work does not stand up to criticism - it was clear that sooner or later Ukraine would play a cruel joke with the republic. And so it happened. 330 million rubles from the pocket of taxpayers is a serious blow to the economy of the DPR.

How did these arrangements work? How were the funds received from enterprises and the population for water supply calculated? How was this money transferred to the territory of Ukraine and was any audit conducted (if at all possible)?

And most importantly: if, after a wicked joke from the Ukrainian side, the DPR government still found the opportunity to take the enterprise’s employees under its guardianship and stop collecting funds directly for the company “Water of Donbass”, could this not have been done before?

Sworn partners


It is customary for us to angrily condemn the Minsk accords, sometimes even calling them conspiracy, but at the same time, numerous exposers of "conspiracies" and "sinks" forget one important fact. In the Donbass, first of all, a civil war, and not a battle between “warriors of the world” with “fascism” or “Rus” with “non-Christians”, “Uniates”, etc. It’s time to reject all these propaganda cliches, because, despite all ideological and geopolitical aspects of the conflict, in the foreground are recent compatriots who are killing each other.

And as soon as compatriots, due to various circumstances (primarily the efforts of Russia and the Minsk agreements) stop killing each other with the same intensity, they begin to trade with each other. And the DNI authorities, in spite of all their “Russian character”, patriotism, heroism and other outstanding qualities in different directions (as well as the Ukrainian authorities, despite their nationalism, etc.), are quite successful in establishing secret enrichment schemes.

The raven will not peck out the crow. And one can only guess what other schemes of mutually beneficial enrichment are established between the enterprising representatives of the authorities in LDNR and Kiev. Most likely, many more interesting discoveries and revealed patterns await us.

The benefit is partly under pressure from Russia, partly due to the chronic lack of maturity of Ukrainians, these schemes are gradually dying off (the damage, of course, falls on the shoulders of ordinary citizens). And to be honest, it’s very good that Russia is crushing the local kings, and Ukrainians are deceiving and breaking their word over and over again. Otherwise, here, in New Russia, for a long time, everyone would have completely decided and established such schemes that in the very near future there would have been nothing to fight.
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  1. knn54 25 November 2019 15: 28 New
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    How many wonderful discoveries are being prepared for us. Enlightenment of the spirit ...
    1. Rwmos 25 November 2019 16: 06 New
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      This is the author about the taxes from the enterprises of Donbass did not remember - I'm sure he is in the know
    2. Victor N 25 November 2019 18: 18 New
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      The author did not indicate that “Donbass Water” is the ONLY supplier of water to the DPR from Ukraine, there are no other sources. This is not Crimea. Artesian water for drinking needs is unsuitable.
      1. Geo⁣ 25 November 2019 23: 17 New
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        Quote: Victor N
        Artesian water for drinking needs is unsuitable.

        And the boys did not know! Tell the Mosvodokanal - otherwise it supplies entire districts from underground sources!
        1. Victor N 26 November 2019 10: 44 New
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          Where is Moscow, and where is Donetsk! Very different water.
          1. xax
            xax 26 November 2019 22: 56 New
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            Quote: Victor N
            This is not Crimea. Artesian water for drinking needs is unsuitable.

            In Crimea, on the contrary, there is a problem with groundwater - there are few of them, due to the modest size of the catchment areas.

            Quote: Victor N
            Where is Moscow, and where is Donetsk! Very different water.

            Excerpt from the Explanatory Note to the Hydrogeological Map of the USSR, scale 1: 200 000 (Donbass series), sheet M-37XXXII:


            ... When assessing the quality of groundwater in terms of their suitability for water supply, the requirements of GOST 2761-57 are taken into account ...

            ... for water supply groundwater is widely useddeveloped on leaf area. The main groundwater resources, suitable for centralized water supply, confined to the fractured zone of the marl-Cretaceous stratum of the Upper Cretaceous, to the aquiferous complexes of the Protopivsky and Novoraysk formations of the Triassic and deposits of the Carboniferous system ...

            Everything is normal in the Donbas with groundwater, it is only necessary to conduct appropriate studies to determine the parameters of water withdrawals and water treatment, after which to build these same water intakes and water treatment stations. The only question is money.
      2. boriz 26 November 2019 00: 27 New
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        Very fit. Although, it depends on the particular well. I did this one time. On average, artesian water is at least no worse than river water.
    3. antivirus 25 November 2019 18: 45 New
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      The raven will not peck out the crow. And you can only guess to

      and these ravens? not woodpeckers?
  2. Kronos 25 November 2019 15: 34 New
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    And what is left for what to fight after the assassination of Zakharchenko and putting at the head of the MMM advertiser Pushili on?
    1. Rwmos 25 November 2019 16: 08 New
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      Do you know how often Zakharchenko was called before? No, not in the Extreme, it’s the militias .... There are connected with the hens. He is the hero of Donbass, and this is a fact. But there is also much that is there. For example, for Akhmetov
      1. Kronos 25 November 2019 16: 26 New
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        I'm not saying that he was just super, but still not as much as the current
        1. Rwmos 25 November 2019 16: 32 New
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          So there was a brothel, and there really were heroes who didn't need nichrome for themselves. like Dremov ... And different things surfaced, who are the "rear Cossacks" - you know? She’s still a bastard, worse than a bad thing ... Sooner or later it is necessary to build a country, well, normal governance. And you won’t believe it — these are bureaucrats, it’s precisely the erysipelas across which are wider. And the heroes are not suitable for such posts - the manager MUST be a dumb, boring, and very corrosive bureaucrat, not to mention that. what do they need to agree there immediately with dill (for example, do you need to receive pensions for the people?) - and with Russia. Can you? I do not, the horn will not rust after me.
          1. Kronos 25 November 2019 16: 34 New
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            Does Pushilin mean such a bureaucrat?
            1. Rwmos 25 November 2019 16: 39 New
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              Funny) Is this a question? Just Pushilin - it seems yes. I haven’t eaten yet, but the tag will not rust after it
          2. 210ox 25 November 2019 16: 42 New
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            A manager should not be stupid and boring. He must be smart, principled and uncompromising. Example-Lavrentiya Pavlovich.
            1. Rwmos 25 November 2019 16: 51 New
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              Remember that they didn’t give Lavrentia control?
              1. Kronos 25 November 2019 18: 03 New
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                There is no country, but he ruined the atomic project, the NKVD lifted eliminating excesses
                1. Rwmos 25 November 2019 20: 54 New
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                  The cadres decide everything stopped solving already under Kukuruz - Mikoyan was the same under Stalin. A lot with Khrushchev could?
    2. asv363 25 November 2019 16: 30 New
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      You wrote that you live in Donetsk. And do not understand why the war began?
      1. Kronos 25 November 2019 16: 32 New
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        I understand perfectly well that these were the usual showdowns of oligarchic groups + the USA saw for themselves the opportunity to consolidate their influence and therefore fit in. Which, however, did not prevent ordinary people from completely sincerely fighting for their beliefs.
        1. asv363 25 November 2019 17: 33 New
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          Now, what is stopping quite sincerely people are coming to the defense of their homeland, Donbass?
          1. Kronos 25 November 2019 17: 59 New
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            Probably the fact that 5 years they killed all the important commanders, buried the idea of ​​freeing all the land of the DPR and LPR, violently promoting the idea of ​​returning to Ukraine, putting thieves and bandits in power, economically complete ruin and scanty salaries. Fight for the fact that to go back or die under endless shelling without whole for a little money there are not many who want to
        2. rhino 25 November 2019 18: 24 New
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          And sho oligarchic groups divided among themselves ??? Subsidiary mines and ancient plants ???
          1. Aviator_ 25 November 2019 18: 54 New
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            Well, for example, they passed Mariupol to the Sumerians so that Akhmetov could take out his metallurgical products.
            1. Sergey1987 26 November 2019 11: 40 New
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              Quote: Aviator_
              Well, for example, they passed Mariupol to the Sumerians so that Akhmetov could take out his metallurgical products.

              He was surrendered because there was a trite little strength to defend him.
    3. Captain45 25 November 2019 18: 30 New
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      Quote: Kronos
      And what remains for what to fight after the murder of Zakharchenko

      By the way, the other day an interesting article about the murder of Zakharchenko came across. Who cares, you can read here: https: //cont.ws/@voenkorr/1510638
  3. cniza 25 November 2019 15: 59 New
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    And one can only guess what other schemes of mutually beneficial enrichment are established between the enterprising representatives of the authorities in LDNR and Kiev.


    To whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear, the golden calf rules.
  4. samarin1969 25 November 2019 16: 06 New
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    The author’s task: to indirectly convince that the “Russian spirit” in the Donbass does not smell. This is just a "civil war." A sort of light version of Lavrov’s matches “Donbass-Ukraine”.
    1. St Petrov 26 November 2019 12: 14 New
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      It’s just a “civil war”


      and what is it? What would you call it? The war with Russia? If you don’t like Lavrov’s light version, did you decide to voice Klimkin’s version about Ukraine’s war with Russia?

  5. DRM
    DRM 25 November 2019 19: 26 New
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    Which of the hypostases of Makhov wrote an article today?
  6. boriz 25 November 2019 19: 49 New
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    "In general, the fact of cooperation with the Ukrainian side, when the residents of the DPR officially work in a Ukrainian company, pay taxes, including transferring 1,5% of their salary to the military needs of Kiev, looks at least crazy."
    Clever, what ... But is there something for them? Wife / children to feed? Go go there yourself.
    1. The author is such an “alien,” in the good sense of the word. ... For real life in New Russia has almost such a relationship as the author of this comment on the sale of ice cream.
      In my opinion, until 2016 inclusive, Alchevsk Metallurgy worked for Ukraine, workers paid in hryvnias wages. And the city more or less lived ... Ukraine left, and all those who were left to work at the plant for Russian 10-12 thousand rubles began to walk to work and from work. A few kilometers, a march, a crowd of well-dressed people ..., There, and, back, on the minibus - 20 rubles. One and a half to two (social) loaf of bread. Choose! The prose of life ...
      The oligarchs are to blame? Too primitive explanation. The Orthodox are at war with the Orthodox, the real LEADERS of people are intentionally killed. There clearly could not be without ordinary nonhumans ,, - ,, Satanists ,,,, Masons ,,,, world government ,,,, reptilians ,,,, globalists ,, etc. They have many names and guises. What matters is their crappy, ugly crap, not the name.
      In five years, life has worsened in both Ukraine and New Russia. But one of the cunning rich men obviously managed to increase his fortune (as they rode, for example, in Donetsk and Lugansk, such cars and bikes go around and ride ...). Moreover, the address of the actual residence may not coincide either with the political preferences of the prokhendeys or with the location of the gold mine. ,, If the course is raised, then someone needs it ... ,, - you can so fumble.
      Oh good. The IDEA has not gone anywhere. It is still very, very difficult for the miners of Donbass to read all of these imposed Western values. How to start, "cuddle" with the ideological heirs of the Nazis. My grandfather served in the Red Army, beat the Nazis and their henchmen, and the grandson (or great-grandson) will suddenly begin to populate those who shot grandfather ?!
      Ordinary residents of Donbass, as they sat in the trenches, they still sit ... In rain and snow, under fire and without them. For a salary that is less than the salary of the Moscow metro technicals. And sh about, oil and gas in Donbass). Hold the defense of the western borders of the Russian World
  7. Inspector 26 November 2019 01: 05 New
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    They fought in 2014 - for Russia. To fight an indefinite number of years is a bit much. And not sitting on the couch characters reproach them.
  8. asv363 26 November 2019 01: 21 New
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    And so it happened. 330 million rubles from the pocket of taxpayers is a serious blow to the economy of the DPR.

    You yourself write, at the beginning of the article:

    Minister of Housing and Public Utilities Sergey Naumets said that over the past seven months Ukraine has not paid anything to the employees of the enterprise “Water of Donbass” living and working in the territory of the DPR, thus accumulating a debt of 330 million rubles. The minister promised that the republic will return the wage arrears to the employees of the enterprise before the end of the year.

    DNR does not pay Ukraine, but to employees of the KP "Water of Donbass", residents of the republic. Amount for 7 thousand people, including families and for several months (according to your data from April-May, according to mine from the end of 2018). What's wrong with that, Yegor?
  9. Alex koch 26 November 2019 09: 19 New
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    Comrade Naumets tells many amazing stories, and Comrade Makhov consciously or unconsciously adds his equally amazing details. So, the structural units of the KP "Company" Water of Donbass ", which are located on the territory of the DPR, do not pay any taxes to Ukraine - neither military nor non-military. But ERUs and income to the budget of the DPR - they pay. Now about these notorious" 330 million "(there was already more in fact there) It’s not just Ukraine’s debts (which Ukraine, if all the management and all the management as it was in Donetsk, it’s left), but the debt SE "Water of Donbass" (mainly Donetskvodokanal and compensation for the difference in tariffs, which the leadership of the Republic has promised for 5 years.
  10. Maks1995 26 November 2019 10: 01 New
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    Money doesn't smell. Everyday business.
    You can still recall the cycle of coal and humanitarian supplies to the LPR and the disappearance of their leader with money after the coup in the Russian Federation.
  11. kriten 26 November 2019 11: 14 New
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    It seems like it’s not beautiful, and when the branches of Russian state banks competed in competitions for financing ATOs - how is it? And the supply of engines and fuel for APU tanks ??? Who is the greatest traitor? And not Russia, which insists that it is not a party to the conflict, and therefore finances the Nazis ...
  12. Basarev 26 November 2019 21: 24 New
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    Not surprised. Since the last ideological soak of Bednov, the power in the Donbass was taken by ordinary bandits with one loot on their minds. Well, they came up with a way to mine it - in spite of official propaganda, they are trading with Kiev. We in Russia are also full of such an element, so we would not laugh, but start cleaning these Avdey stables already.
  13. Larisa Byvsheva_3 21 December 2019 19: 32 New
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    What is noteworthy, salary arrears have not been given to us all!