Northrop T-38 Talon training aircraft crashes in the USA

Two U.S. Air Force pilots died in an airplane accident in Oklahoma. The crash occurred on Thursday morning. This was reported by the command of the military base Vance.

According to the report, the incident occurred on Thursday at 9.10 local time (18.10 Moscow time) in the vicinity of the Vance Air Force base during a training flight of the 71 training air squadron. According to the press service of the base, two pilots died during the crash of the T-38 Talon training aircraft. Details of the incident are not given, the names and titles of the pilots were not disclosed at the request of the relatives of the victims.

Around 9: 10 in the morning, two people were killed in a plane crash near the Vance base

- said in a statement.

Initially, information appeared that the T-38 Talon training aircraft collided in the air with a similar aircraft, which also conducted training, during which one of them crashed, which killed two pilots of the US Air Force. The fate of the second aircraft and its pilots is not reported.

The establishment of all the circumstances of the incident will be undertaken by a special investigation team of the air base.

The supersonic T-38 Talon twin-seat aircraft are widely used by the US Air Force for training with the 1961 of the year. Production was completed in the 1972 year, according to the official website of the United States Air Force, more than 500 of such vehicles are at the disposal of the military. The length of the aircraft - 14 m, wing span - 7 m, height - 3 m, maximum speed - 1381 km / h.

Comments

[IGU]

It looks like a hard landing.

[Gray brother]

Quote: IGU

It looks like a hard landing.

The wings are whole, the chassis are released. Rather, there wasn’t enough thrust on take-off - it crashed. Probably a couple took off.

[IGU]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: IGU

It looks like a hard landing.

The wings are whole, the chassis are released. Rather, there wasn’t enough thrust on take-off - it crashed. Probably a couple took off.

The fuselage behind the front landing gear is broken up ... It looks like it "skidded" on landing and capsized.

[Gray brother]

Quote: IGU

.. It looks like it "skitted" on landing and capsized.

Only he is lying near the taxiing for some reason, the strip on the left, as I understand it.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Gray Brother

Rather, there wasn’t enough thrust on take-off.

As you can see from the message, everything happened already in flight, and not on takeoff. And here is some kind of "thrust"?

[NN52]

In YouTube there is a more complete video of this disaster.
In addition to this side (which lies on the lights), further about 500 meters on the same side of the runway, and also on the ground there is a second side (only on a broken chassis, and with open lights).
Judging by the released flaps on the second side, a collision while taking off (or landing) in a pair ....

[Piramidon]

Quote: NN52

In YouTube there is a more complete video of this disaster.

When controversial moments arise, it is usually customary to give a link, and not just - "go and look yourself in YouTube"

[NN52]

Piramidon

https://strana.ua/news/234922-v-ssha-razbilsja-sverkhzvukovoj-voennnyj-samolet-northrop-t-38-dva-pilota-pohibli.html
Here is the link, I found it))

[Piramidon]

Quote: NN52

I found

Well done, be proud of your skill. Not all the same. Agree, this does not mean that the opponent should rummage through all your objections on all networks.

[NN52]

Piramidon (Stepan. Russia)

Have you watched the full video? Have your opinion?
And "rummage", what are you talking about? If the topic is interesting to me, I will find it in other sources.

[pavelty]

This is not an incident, but a plane crash, as correctly written below

[Piramidon]

Quote: pavlentiy

This is not an incident, but a plane crash, as correctly written below

All incidents (they are also called air accidents) are divided into breakdowns, accidents, disasters.

[pavelty]

All right, you say, in this case, in the presence of the dead - an accident

[Piramidon]

Quote: pavlentiy

All right, you say, in this case, in the presence of the dead - an accident

But broadly understood, this is still an incident. So your claim

This is not an incident, but a plane crash

not justified

[vvvjak]

The car is almost whole, and the pilots died. Sorry for the guys.

[100502]

Do you feel sorry for the killers?

[vvvjak]

Quote: 100502

Do you feel sorry for the killers?

I feel sorry for people. And you are the prosecutor - to determine the murderers or not? Or do we take it as an axiom: "if an American means a murderer"?

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: 100502

Do you feel sorry for the killers?

In fact, all civilian pilots are engaged in transporting people. And all military pilots in wartime destroy people.
The guys did not die in the war. And besides, it so happened that after joy at the VO about the dead pilots of the United States, there were incidents with the dead pilots of the Russian Federation.
So we will not gloat another's grief.

[Voyager]

This disease constantly walks here with us. No, no, and there are smart people who gloat over others' grief or mistakes. Worse only on the Censor: there it is at the level of a chronic epidemic, cannot be treated.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Voyager

This disease constantly walks here with us. No, no, and there are smart people who gloat over others' grief or mistakes.

As our battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel Fedorov said: "We have 90 in the battalion, no 95% - this is an excellent military composition"
We have probably different numbers on the forum, but still understand a sufficient number.

[Servisinzhener]

Any aircraft like any sophisticated technique tends to break. While the planes fly, they will fall. What do we have there. Nowhere to go from this. That is life.

In general, under similar topics, if this happens we have full of characteristic comments. Which for some reason is not under this news. Namely: The truth will not be told to us anyway. Again everything will be blamed on the pilots. In any normal country, this plane would have been sent for scrap long ago. Officials shoved the money for repairs and the purchase of new equipment in their pockets. And of course, Putin is personally responsible for this disaster. What prevented him from replacing obsolete aircraft for so many years. In this case: it will sound like this: - Trump is personally responsible for this disaster. What prevented him from replacing obsolete aircraft for so many years. , this is it: Make America Great Again?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Vladimir_6

all military pilots kill people in wartime.

And can you find in the USA a pilot who did not kill a single civilian in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia? Even some sort of S-130, converted into a gun-thorn.
They have been forbidden to brag since 2006, otherwise the Internet would be inundated with the exploits of democratizers.
What did the helicopter pilot who shot the ambulance in the center of Baghdad say?
"There was a child ... But they themselves are to blame!"
These two will not blame anyone that they fell under their shells.

[Vladimir_6]

And can you find in the USA a pilot who did not kill a single civilian in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia?

I have no way to conduct a survey of US military pilots.

These two will not blame anyone

Set a table at home, invite your friends, and rejoice. Perhaps he will depart from the heart.
We all walk under God. It is not known what will happen to us tomorrow. Therefore, gloating over the tragedy does not see the point.

venik (Vladimir) Today, 13:45 0
Quote: 100502
Do you feel sorry for the killers?
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Not so long ago, when the Tu-22M3 crashed near Murmansk (and before that two Su-34s collided in the Far East), the "Western" media were full of snide comments, especially the Ukrainian "Blokhera" (!!!), which were just in " delighted ".... I have always wanted these" people "(or rather, NON-HUMANS!) - SPIT IN THE FACE (or rather, in the face!)
Now tell me (only honestly!), WHAT DO YOU DIFFERENT FROM THEM ???
This is not an insult and is in no way rudeness - this is a QUESTION !!! Question to you, as to the MAN !!!
And if you are a HUMAN, then NEVER BECOME "on the same board" together with these "unicellular" !!!

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Only here is a caveat - American soldiers are not taught to defend their homeland. Study the topography of your home states, provide for defensive lines, build shelters for your population. They are taught to go far abroad - and take away: oil, land, life. And they know this, and they go to this job. These guys probably dreamed of "going on a business trip," a good "job," getting a higher salary, university benefits, and an interest-free loan for housing. Send your beloved, on occasion, the skull of a "terrorist" killed with his own hand. Who was hiding under the guise of a seller in a jewelry store.
But here is a work-related injury incompatible with life ...
I have more sympathy for the Taliban than for American soldiers. Those at least native land they fight for an idea.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Oo sarcasm

I have more sympathy for the Taliban than for American soldiers.

In this, I agree with you.
But with regard to the topic of the article, an example is even how the representatives of Israel react to the tragic death of Russian pilots. They always express condolences, no matter how we relished the destruction of Israel F16.
There is a good Russian proverb - about the dead either good or nothing.
From the fact that two American pilots died, nothing in the World will change dramatically.

[venik]

Quote: 100502

Do you feel sorry for the killers?

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Not so long ago, when the Tu-22M3 crashed near Murmansk (and before that two Su-34s collided in the Far East), the "western" media were full of sarcastic comments, especially distinguished Ukrainian "blokhera" (!!!), who were simply "ecstatic" .... I always wanted these "people" (more precisely, NON-HUMANS!) - SPIT IN THE FACE (or more precisely - in muzzle!)
Now tell me (only honestly!), WHAT DO YOU DIFFERENT FROM THEM ???
This is not an insult and in no way not rudeness - this QUESTION!!! Question to you, as to the MAN !!!
And if you are a HUMAN, then NEVER BECOME "on the same board" with these "unicellular"!!!

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

You see, Russia does not occupy half the world, and does not give soldiers diplomatic immunity. Every American soldier is an employee of the US State Secretariat, and enjoys all the rights of a diplomat

[venik]

Quote: Oo sarcasm

You see, Russia does not occupy half the world, and does not give soldiers diplomatic immunity.

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You see ..... ORDERS to soldiers - gives Pentagon... And the Pentagon - State Department.... And to the State Department - (no, NOT the President! Although he is formally - too), but the OLIGARCHES ......
Those who crashed - they were "officials", "oligarchs", "presidents" ???

IN BATTLE, destroy the enemy: this is ONE ..... A "JOY" death people (even "potential opponents"), this is ANOTHER!
PS By the way: FLYERS are a little superstitious people! To rejoice at the death of colleagues (even the toughest "vi-za-vi"!) From them (since the formation of Aviation) - NOT ACCEPTED ("We all walk under God!" Or - "fly"!) ....
By the way: Only Nazi pilots (and NOT ALL!) Could shoot pilots who jumped with a parachute ...

I do not feel the slightest sympathy for the "states" .... Moreover, I HATE !!! .... But where does the broken guys have to do with it? They simply served their country (which they probably believed!) .....
And now - IMAGINE - in their place (a couple of seconds before the disaster!) .......
Well, now you can "throw slippers"!!!!

[Gray brother]

Quote: vvvjak

Sorry for the guys.

The fact that they did not manage to bomb a single wedding is good.

[bober1982]

The names of the deceased pilots were not disclosed - not at the request of relatives, this cannot happen, but only after notifying the relatives themselves. And only after that the ranks, names, surnames of the deceased are publicly announced. Competently work.

[Svarog51]

The photo is very blurry, but it looks like the plane is upside down.

[LifeIsGood]

Yes, I landed on my back. If you look closely there the chassis can be seen which "look" into the sky.

[Prisoner]

Well yes. There is a furrow paved keel.

[Svarog51]

In the video, this furrow comes from taxiing itself. Apparently, he walked almost parallel to the earth, but in an inverted form. And you can’t use the catapult. Therefore, the pilots died. IMHO, of course. There is no whole picture of what happened.

[Prisoner]

Apparently the way it is. Somersaulted and smoothly began to "plow" the ground.

[Pavel57]

The longevity of the aircraft is surprising - the youngest for more than 40 years.

[bessmertniy]

With such a long life, they should soon begin to fall one by one. Of course, if they flew, but did not stand without flights.