Stirlitz was allowed to stay!

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Not afraid, but trampled!


Our fathers and grandfathers were not afraid of the swastika. They shot her with rifles, machine guns, tank guns and howitzers. They bombed her. They carried her across Red Square and threw her at the feet of the victors of fascism. They didn't love her, that's for sure. But it never occurred to anyone to be afraid of her.

A little later, while the generation of front-line soldiers was alive, the swastika did not scare anyone either. Feature films were shot in which the Nazis looked like real ones, and therefore wore armbands with a swastika and other German, including SS, insignia. The children were shown documentaries on which swastikas were also enough: on the wings of downed German planes burning in a ravine, on the armor of the Tigers and Panthers, which were spattered by our St. John's Wort, on the buildings of German commandant’s offices in liberated Russian cities and towns ... And children growing up in these harsh years, the swastika also did not scare.



Oddly enough, the abundance of the swastika did not affect the correctness of children's perception in any way: when the children played the “war”, no one wanted to be a fascist. It was necessary to appoint to this game category either in an orderly manner, or with the help of some counters. Somehow even strange, right? Indeed, according to the current educational trends, the children, having seen enough of the Germans and the swastika, should immediately be recorded as fascists, and then as traitors to the motherland ...

But for some reason this did not happen. Maybe then they just knew how to correctly show the swastika? Is it right to talk about her and those who wore it? Perhaps this is due to the honest rejection in society that accompanied any flirting with Nazism, not spoiled by tolerance, talk about freedom of opinion and choice? It's hard to say for sure. But the fact remains: at some point, the swastika began to scare our statesmen, and it was simply banned.

No, of course, from the best motives: so as not to propagate, so that extremism does not raise its head, to protect children from harmful influence, and adults from the temptations of too simple decisions. And at first glance it seemed that there was some kind of logic ...

But along with the swastika, feature films, many of which were part of the golden fund of our cinema, and important documentary evidence of that terrible era, and some material evidence, important, for example, were also banned. stories. Moreover, under such a ban that in some cases it was quite possible to get an administrative arrest. But in case of relapse, it’s not administrative ...

Now you can not be afraid


Last Tuesday, the State Duma adopted amendments to the regulatory legal acts, the application of which caused these problems. This is the law “On perpetuating the victory of the Soviet people in the Great Patriotic War of the 1941-1945 years” and the law “On countering extremist activity”. Now, a demonstration of the Nazi swastika will be possible in cases when "a negative attitude towards the ideology of Nazism is formed and there are no signs of propaganda or justification of Nazism."

That is, now we can watch the beloved film “Seventeen Moments of Spring” by many and even show it to our children without risking being held administratively or even criminally liable. We will be able to store on our computer archive photos of the times of the Great Patriotic War, without violating anything at the same time. What is it - Kukryniksy’s cartoons will now be rehabilitated, and you won’t be fined for watching them!

If you think that the author is exaggerating, then in vain. We have recorded cases of bringing to trial a person for publishing a photo from the Victory Parade 1945 of the year in VK. Yes, the man escaped with only a fine, but still ...


According to some reports, in 2018 on charges related to the demonstration of the swastika and other Nazi symbols in one way or another, 1639 cases were initiated in Russia. Yes, the vast majority of them are administrative and ended in a fine. Yes, some of them deserved the sanction of law enforcement officers - alas, we still have enough extremists and just foolish people. But a significant part was akin to the case of the sale of collectible tin soldiers in the Moscow "Children's World", when the case of "incitement to hatred and enmity" was opened.

It is clear that once the relevant standards were adopted, as they say, with good intentions. Someone thought that in this way the authorities would show respect for veterans, and someone was really afraid of terrible extremists who were about to begin to march at night with torches along the streets of Moscow. But, as we see, both of these motives, like the rest, in fact turned out to be a figment of the imagination of the deputies, "seeing life from the window of a personal car."

The head of the Committee on Culture, Galina Yampolskaya, formulated her claims to these legal norms:
The norm that we are correcting with this bill was probably taken out of the best of intentions, but with a significant degree of thoughtlessness. No one at that moment gave himself the trouble to think about what the complete ban on the demonstration of Nazi symbols would lead to.
Our people want to honor the warring ancestors, they want to bear the memory of the Great Patriotic War, and to do this in a visual way, avoiding Nazi symbols, is almost impossible. Shots from Soviet films, posters, photographs of the war years, of course, form a negative attitude towards the ideology of Nazism.


In this case, it remains only to agree with the wording. Yes, this is precisely “thoughtlessness” when, for minor advantages, someone did not make out (or did not bother to look at something) quite noticeable disadvantages. And we hope that the deputies will quickly enough make the necessary changes to the current Administrative Code so that the new rules become a real guide to action for the courts and some public servants.

To prohibit insanity in Russia!


On the other hand, senility in our lives will remain a lot. What is the endless postscript “forbidden in Russia” that is used every time a different kind of terrorist organization is mentioned. Although here, it seems, there is some kind of rational grain: maybe, really, someone else does not know that ISIS is prohibited in Russia?

Sometimes, when I come across materials about some “Russian wife” of the militant who met him on social networks, does not know a word in Arabic, but still believes in fairy tales about a beautiful and fair life in bombed Mosul, I think that no warning in this case will not be redundant. Moreover, sometimes such a “wife” not only hides to her “beloved” across five borders, but also drags a young child with her.

And at the same time, I understand that nothing will probably help here: neither a warning, nor a personal notice, nor a visit to the district police officer ... This contingent, sorry, is already incorrigible, and as a person I can save from him, I admit, I know.

But the fact that this phrase has long become hackneyed, ineffective, has turned into an occasion for jokes and gnawing, is a fact. And the effect of it, in my opinion, has long been not even zero, but negative.

But still, let's finish on a good note. It is very pleasing that our deputies show signs of common sense and accept sane amendments to previously adopted controversial laws. Now, without slowing down, continue good practice and adopt the relevant amendments to the Constitution, the Criminal Code, the Civil Code, pension legislation, the Labor Code and many more laws that we have to either implement or somehow circumvent.

And for the rehabilitation of Stirlitz, many human thanks!
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  1. +68
    23 November 2019 05: 29
    Well this is a Breakthrough! good And given the fact that Wolf from "Well, wait a minute" was allowed to smoke ... just an enchanting victory over Marasmus! good wassat
    1. +43
      23 November 2019 05: 50
      Well, now Chipolino has a chance. laughing
      Director of the Moscow Cultural Center has banned a children's production based on "The Adventures of Cipollino", fearing political satire

      More details: https://www.newsru.com/russia/08nov2019/cipollino.html
      1. +67
        23 November 2019 05: 59
        Quote: However, Dear
        Well, now Chipolino has a chance.

        maybe with Dunno. : yes
        : “- And who are these policemen? - asked Herring. - Bandits! - said Spikelet with irritation. - Honestly, bandits! In fact, the duty of the police is to protect the population from robbers, but in reality they protect only the rich. And the rich are the real robbers. They only rob us, hiding behind the laws that they themselves come up with. And what, tell me, is the difference whether they will rob me under the law or not the law? I do not care! - Here you are somehow wonderful! - said Vintik. “Why are you obeying the police and these ... as you call them rich?” “Try not to listen here, when everything is in their hands: land, factories, money, and, in addition, weapons!”
        1. +27
          23 November 2019 07: 01
          Five points!
          For a long time I did not pick up this book!
          Children are already adults, and it is too early for grandchildren.
          But there you cheered me up in the morning!
          1. +14
            23 November 2019 08: 19
            For a long time I did not pick up this book!
            Yes you "criminal" Chipolino banned and banned Dunno. Here you are not perestroika and there is no need to seduce the minds of glasnost
            1. +15
              23 November 2019 08: 29
              ,, ... Silenceaaaaaat ... '' (Chipolino)
              1. +5
                23 November 2019 14: 20
                I hope that it doesn’t reach insanity when Stalin has a “net” instead of a tube. belay
                1. +2
                  23 November 2019 15: 14
                  Today it was already on the channel `` Weapon ''
                  1. +3
                    23 November 2019 15: 16
                    It's easier for T / V to show miN No, rather than a cigarette ...
            2. +27
              23 November 2019 12: 26
              That Dunno was not banned says only that the "prohibitors" have not read this book. God forbid they read it!
              1. +1
                24 November 2019 10: 08
                Vladimir, the question is not whether to ban or not. The question is different, or rather two of them and one comes out of the other:
                1. Who is the smart one who forbade, without bothering to work out such a prohibition (this is like introducing some kind of innovation in the field of paperwork - the main thing is THINK !!!, and how IT IS ALL done is not important ... and here it is - MARASM, on which people, seeing, twist at the temple)?
                2. Who uses the imperfection of such prohibitions to denigrate everything and everything in Soviet and generally Russian history in the Russian Federation itself?
                The questions asked above will help to identify what the authorities and society have been struggling with for the past 10 years - who needs attempts to split the society?
                1. +1
                  24 November 2019 12: 18
                  For me, these questions have been gone for a long time. The old divide and conquer always works. And the authorities take full advantage of this to keep themselves loved. The denigration of both the Soviet regime and the entire Russian history is necessary for the authorities so that the younger generation (with the older, whom they are strenuously destroying, this trick does not pass) believes that it cannot be otherwise and the current socio-political system is the best. After all, the ban on Nazi symbols was not introduced by fools, they simply took and removed from the screens a whole layer of Soviet films about the heroism of the people in the Second World War. And the authorities "do not notice" the memorial plaques installed for collaborators like Ataman Krasnov.
            3. 0
              27 November 2019 12: 49
              Guardamir November 23, 2019 08:19
              Here you do not need perestroika and glasnost there is no need to deceive minds

              from your perestroika still hiccups the whole country.
        2. +6
          23 November 2019 10: 12
          Nosov was lucky that he did not survive to this day.
          Otherwise, they would instantly solder an article for insulting the authorities.
          The book is clearly seditious.
          By the way, I have a three-volume edition of Nosov with "Dunno on the Moon" on the shelf since childhood. It should be destroyed.
          You never know ...
        3. +2
          25 November 2019 04: 45
          “We also don’t want to say that by acquiring shares, the short ones do not gain anything, since by buying shares, they receive hope for improving their well-being. And hope, as you know, also costs something. For nothing, as they say, and the sore won't settle. You have to pay money for everything, but having paid, you can even dream. "
          - "Such are the customs of the lunar inhabitants! The lunar shorty will never eat sweets, gingerbreads, bread, sausage or ice cream of the factory that does not print ads in newspapers, and will not go to a doctor who has not come up with some puzzling advertisements to attract sick people. Usually a sleepwalker buys only those things about which he read in the newspaper, but if he sees a cleverly composed advertisement somewhere on the wall, he can buy even the thing that he does not need at all. "
          - "If the time comes when everyone will feel good, then the rich will surely feel bad."
      2. AAK
        +9
        23 November 2019 15: 33
        Well, yes, "... after we introduced the air tax, you began to breathe less ..."
        1. +6
          23 November 2019 17: 30
          It would be better if the Ren TV were banned with their alien nonsense and TNT ... But fools have been stored for a thousand years.
      3. Alf
        +8
        23 November 2019 19: 44
        Quote: However, dear
        Well, now Chipolino has a chance. laughing
        Director of the Moscow Cultural Center has banned a children's production based on "The Adventures of Cipollino", fearing political satire

        More details: https://www.newsru.com/russia/08nov2019/cipollino.html

    2. -1
      24 November 2019 16: 11
      The ban was for the reason that a certain country intercepted the methods of governing the people purely Nazi, so they cover their face in this way.
  2. +19
    23 November 2019 05: 30
    watch many people’s favorite movie “Twelve Moments of Spring”
    smile
    Well what is it belay ... correct in the article immediately this shame.
    1. +16
      23 November 2019 05: 42
      Quote: The same Lech
      watch many people’s favorite movie “Twelve Moments of Spring”
      smile
      Well what is it belay ... correct in the article immediately this shame.

      THE author MISSED, with "12 chairs" ... now: "17 chairs" will be. wink
      1. +9
        23 November 2019 06: 07
        * Three, and better of course five "stars." * Carnival night *. laughing
    2. +5
      23 November 2019 09: 13
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Well, what is it ... correct this shame in the article immediately.

      I apologize. Sometimes with a magnifying glass in your hands you look for small "fleas" in the text, but you don't even notice the "elephant". Thanks.
      1. -11
        23 November 2019 14: 36
        Quote: BigBraza
        I apologize. Sometimes, with a magnifying glass in hand, you look for small "fleas" in the text, but you don't even notice the "elephant" ...

        Himself, "you", and did not notice ... You live in another dimension - a different reality, sometimes not understanding the essence of the issue and there are people like you in the Duma, government and people at this time. Being determines consciousness!
        Quote: Victor Kuzovkov
        ... This contingent, I'm sorry, is already incorrigible, and I don’t know how to save a person from himself.

        No need to focus readers on an article that is far-fetched by your ears. You have neither reason, nor reason, and all the more wisdom, in view of your age. Permissiveness imperceptibly leads to the abyss Someday it comes around, but it will be too late ...
        Quote: Victor Kuzovkov
        And for the rehabilitation of Stirlitz, many human thanks!

        And you don’t need one of your own stupidity - to cover up another, supposedly for the good! And do not try to compare the upbringing of people who saw the war, even let them with their children's eyes - with their own, which brings only costs to society! This article of yours clearly confirms this.
  3. +21
    23 November 2019 05: 34
    Good morning to everyone! Yeah. The matter is probably not in the swastika, and not in smoking. And the old Russian truth is more suitable: * Make a fool pray to God, he will break his whole forehead *. That's something, and executive stupid people among the officials there has always been plenty of people.
    1. +16
      23 November 2019 05: 39
      .Here is something, but executive stupid people among the official people have always been in abundance.

      Good morning! hi
      Actually, this law was adopted by the chosen ones of the people ... which is surprisingly not knowing the opinions of the people themselves ... apparently they consider themselves smarter than him.
      The State Duma says they ordered studies about what people think about it ... apparently they have already taken care of the upcoming elections ... they need to correct their image before the voters.
      1. +20
        23 November 2019 05: 44
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Actually, this law was adopted by the chosen people

        Servants, Alexey, Servants! and servants, as a rule, are dark and uneducated people!
        1. +12
          23 November 2019 05: 47
          Servants, Alksei, Servants! and servants, as a rule, are dark and uneducated people!

          Well, actually, this is one deputy servant softly said that the people are dark and uneducated ... especially when he gathers in a crowd after the next emergency ... like a crowd of people does not have the right to be indignant because of the lawlessness of individuals in our society.
          The mind is not enough to tell him that it is better not to bring the situation to this when there is an opportunity to punish the guilty in advance.
        2. +6
          23 November 2019 17: 18
          Only BEFORE the "servants of the people" live better than the owners ...
      2. +6
        23 November 2019 05: 59
        Alexei! The law was passed by the deputies, right. But the execution was assigned to the bureaucratic fraternity! And here the options have already gone, such as white stripes instead of cigarettes by the protagonist, or in place of the heroine’s chest (naked and beautiful!) On the TV screen.
        1. +11
          23 November 2019 06: 32
          Hi, hello! The Americans all took place during the reign of McCarthyism. I remember their old black and white magazines with beauties, all boobs and asses are closed with black squares. Senator McCarthy, is this when, in the fifties, raged, if I am not mistaken? So our homegrown again lagged behind America for about half a century. laughing It's a shame, damn it !!!
          1. +11
            23 November 2019 06: 42
            Hi Konstantin! So the thing is that this is the most banal stupidity !!!! Well, here's an example from life: cigarettes have run out (I know, I need to quit smoking!), I’m going to the store. * We don’t sell cigarettes, school is nearby *, okay You do not sell cigarettes, but why the hell do you have alcoholic beverages in all their natural beauty ????
            1. +20
              23 November 2019 06: 55
              Speaking of dope. I went into the kitchen, my wife is cooking, well, and the box to turn on the light. I look at the screen of the face of a black man driving a truck, and for some reason the floor of the face in the area of ​​the lips is blurry. Well, I think the number is freaking, a new glitch has appeared. And then it came to light — this was a black man’s cigar. Now this is not even idiocy, but genuine schizophrenia. laughing
              Everything is so correct it was said in the Soviet Union at one time that we have a "country of unafraid and d and o v."
              1. +10
                23 November 2019 07: 01
                This is all because executive idios .. (sorry, stupid people!) Are capable of even a good (maybe?) Idea to bring to insanity. How to deal with this? Medicines for stupidity are still only at the development stage, before trials .... in short We’ll have time to fly Mars! fellow
                1. +4
                  23 November 2019 07: 14
                  Yeah, to Mars ... We fly there, and they are already there, in their Martian paintings with sculptures, the causal places are covered with Kuzbasslak. If they figure it out, of course, where they have a faq there. laughing
              2. +1
                23 November 2019 10: 22
                Are you my friend not a racist ??? (Would they ask in the State Duma) he's an African American)))))))
                1. +8
                  23 November 2019 11: 22
                  But how can I tell you, colleague ... On the one hand, from the youngest nails she was brought up in the spirit of proletarian internationalism, and on the other ... life, she herself puts everything in its place. I would say this: yes, I am a racist, but selectively, and this does not depend on the nationality and skin color of the subject. Man, he is very different, and it all depends on how he behaves in relation to others. Here, I also wanted to joke, but it turned out almost seriously.
                  And I would ask the State Duma only one thing: "Does anyone have a last wish?" But this is not racism, is it?
                  1. 0
                    23 November 2019 11: 29
                    That's right, but this is not an option ...... others will come))))
                    1. +2
                      23 November 2019 11: 39
                      The main thing is not to become these "others". smile
              3. +5
                23 November 2019 15: 17
                I will supplement you. Enrages the smearing emblem on cars in films.
            2. +9
              23 November 2019 07: 05
              you do not sell cigarettes, but what the hell do you have alcoholic beverages in all their natural beauty ????

              Beauty is a terrible force !!!!! drinks drinks
              1. +7
                23 November 2019 07: 09
                You can’t argue with that. But where is the logic? Alcohol has been on sale since the age of 21, cigarettes, cigarettes, similarly. Well and?!? Ah, yes! We have a fight against smoking and smokers !!! With this, it’s clear, but why drape beautiful female breasts in films ??? ? What is so harmful in it ???? The youngsters all sucked her, the adults all admired her. And now, a white strip on the screen!
                1. +5
                  23 November 2019 08: 15
                  And now, a white strip on the screen!
                  Swing, how long ago, some 27 years ago, in the news and in the quarter, waved their breasts to the right and left, now down. Then the bare chest was the weapon of destruction of the Union, now again stability (stagnation).
                2. +1
                  23 November 2019 10: 26
                  So from 18 years old and cigarettes and alcohol .......
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                  1. +1
                    24 November 2019 19: 28
                    Quote from AUL
                    Venus Milos for some reason without a bra is a slut

                    And to Apollo immediately what kind of coward to fix ... wassat yeah
            3. +1
              23 November 2019 22: 57
              Phil77 (Sergey)

              How is it? if the school is nearby, then there should be no alcoholic beverages in principle? What are you .... slightly "lying" ...
              1. +4
                23 November 2019 23: 52
                Dmitry welcome! Unfortunately, SERGEY is right! The anti-tobacco law is much tougher than the anti-alcohol law. From the School of My Son, to the nearest Magnet forty meters, cigarettes do not sell! Alcohol quite calmly stands in the windows!
                Everything with alcohol is somehow confused there ... many restrictions are imposed by the Local authorities ... or not! hi
              2. +1
                24 November 2019 09: 26
                DO NOT LIE! Shop * Crossroads * at thirty meters from him a children's clinic, at fifty-sixty school! Shop * Pyaterochka * at a hundred meters from him school. Alcohol is on sale, they don’t sell cigarettes! I’m not lying, I! stop
          2. +2
            23 November 2019 09: 31
            Quote: Sea Cat
            Hi, hello! The Americans all took place during the reign of McCarthyism.

            Earlier, the Hayes code appeared in the cinema.
            1. +1
              24 November 2019 13: 22
              This is when the female navel was forbidden to show?
        2. Alf
          +5
          23 November 2019 19: 47
          Quote: Phil77
          Alexei! The law was passed by the deputies, right. But the execution was assigned to the bureaucratic fraternity! And here the options have already gone, such as white stripes instead of cigarettes by the protagonist, or in place of the heroine’s chest (naked and beautiful!) On the TV screen.

          And cars in films with squares in place of nameplates.
      3. +3
        23 November 2019 08: 25
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Actually, this law was adopted by the chosen ones of the people ... which is surprisingly not knowing the opinions of the people themselves ... apparently they consider themselves smarter than him.

        Isn’t that so? After all, they are chosen. Almost FAVORITES.
        If you question their quality, then the very institution of election begins to stagger.
        But you will not argue that sneaky businessmen, careerists and opportunists fall into the Duma?
      4. +1
        23 November 2019 09: 58
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        ... which is surprising without first knowing the opinions of the people themselves ...

        How not to know? Each elected deputy regularly meets with his chosen ones, is interested in their opinion on the upcoming vote on draft laws and seeks to fulfill the mandates of voters (if someone does not understand, this is irony)

        The fact that the gross mistake of the legislative power has been corrected is good. The fascization of the country was stopped.
    2. +13
      23 November 2019 05: 46
      Quote: Phil77
      ancient Russian truth: * Make a fool pray to God, he will break his whole forehead *. Here's something, and there were always plenty of executive stupid people among the official people.

      Comrade Esposito, in Russia, he’s been stupid for 100 years!
      1. +6
        23 November 2019 06: 10
        Quote: Aerodrome
        in Russia, dur ak for 100 years stocked up!

        Not only with us, amigo, not only with us!
    3. +9
      23 November 2019 05: 50
      Quote: Phil77
      That's what, but there were always plenty of executive stupid people among the official people.

      So since Peter I is conducted:
      1. +6
        23 November 2019 06: 05
        according to the "new law", tattooing a "swastika" with a small inscription "fascism is evil" on the whole back will no longer be considered illegal!what
      2. 0
        24 November 2019 06: 52
        I have never heard of navigators ... But Svejk is never harmful to turn on.
    4. +5
      23 November 2019 09: 23
      . Make a fool pray to God, he will break his whole forehead *

      And, is this about the deputy in the context of the article does not fall?
      Either for an insult, or for the disclosure of state secrets, as in the old joke that has become a reality.
    5. +7
      23 November 2019 09: 47
      Quote: Phil77
      Make a fool pray to God, he will break his whole forehead * .Here is something, and there are always plenty of executive stupid people among the official people.
      They say that it’s worse than a fool - only with initiative ... Even worse with the possibility of its implementation!
    6. +5
      23 November 2019 09: 49
      Quote: Phil77
      Good morning to everyone! Yeah. The matter is probably not in the swastika, and not in smoking. And the old Russian truth is more suitable: * Make a fool pray to God, he will break his whole forehead *. That's something, and executive stupid people among the officials there has always been plenty of people.

      It’s bad if du..rak, so after all, an initiative du..rak. am
    7. +6
      23 November 2019 09: 54
      Quote: Phil77
      That's what, but there were always plenty of executive stupid people among the official people.

      The worst thing is that they write laws. recourse
  4. +8
    23 November 2019 06: 17
    Somewhere senility decreased, somewhere added ... We wait, sir ..
  5. +13
    23 November 2019 06: 23
    The author apparently does not distinguish between the concepts of "fascism" and "Nazism", the Germans were just Nazis, and the Italians were fascists. Although often in propaganda materials, these concepts were identified in relation to the Germans.
    1. +7
      23 November 2019 07: 19
      Germans were just Nazis, and Italians were fascists

      Moreover, the captured Germans were offended when ours were called fascists, they asked not to confuse them with some pasta.
      1. +4
        23 November 2019 16: 57
        Quote: AK1972
        Germans were just Nazis, and Italians were fascists

        Moreover, the captured Germans were offended when ours were called fascists, they asked not to confuse them with some pasta.

        Likewise, the Italians said "I am not a Nazi, but I am an honest fascist"
        1. AAK
          +5
          23 November 2019 22: 06
          ABOUT! It is immediately evident that colleagues are familiar with V. Pikul's book "Barbarossa"
    2. +4
      23 November 2019 10: 10
      Joseph Vissarionovich strongly recommended not to use the holy, for Soviet people, the word socialism in the designation of nonhumans opposing our Motherland.
      Regarding the case in the store Detsky Mir (Technology of Youth), in Moscow the entire run over had an economic motive. Unfair competition, although where it is fair in our country, arbitrators also want to get rich, since it is allowed. Even at exhibitions of poster modeling, they were forced to hide the swastikas. It's absurd, the stand is "messer", al "foker" with a sealed paper RN. It is very interesting how the next exhibition will be after the adoption of this really smart law. After all, deputies can. Here lobbyism, it seems, is not visible.
  6. +12
    23 November 2019 06: 26
    . To prohibit insanity in Russia

    "Initiative fools" are still a breed of pests !!!
    Periodically pops up and we get another ... "present".
  7. +11
    23 November 2019 06: 45
    Long ago I gave my father, a front-line soldier, a photo album of the GDR "DerZweiteWeltkrieg", in German, of course.
    There are swastikas, crosses, odious personalities unmeasured!
    Dad said: "These are the animals that We have defeated!"
    I still have the album, the memory of my father, of Victory!
    And with children and grandchildren revised. I periodically look through it myself, even though I know it by heart!
    1. +7
      23 November 2019 06: 53
      The absolutely correct reaction of your father!
  8. +11
    23 November 2019 06: 54
    Any such prohibition gives only the opposite result. It is because the idiot who really likes the swastika does not interfere, but normal people feel inconvenient. Here's how to ban fools?
    1. +9
      23 November 2019 07: 24
      Here's how to ban fools?

      Fools and roads are our everything laughing
  9. +9
    23 November 2019 07: 15
    I have a flower in my house. I don’t know what it’s called. Strong branches of the flower support the weak with thin vines. Not a single twig will break. This is how society should be. After all, a person's consciousness is secondary. In the first place is his life. Freeze the bar. utilities for 5 years, and all distrust will subside. When "17 moments .." was made colored, Tikhonov demanded to remove his name from the credits. Because the main points were removed. In everyday life, a lot can be happening, but this does not mean that for every breath you take laws.
  10. +15
    23 November 2019 07: 37
    Years, decades, centuries pass ... But nothing changes.

    1. +1
      24 November 2019 06: 35
      Alexander Vasilievich was not verbose. And he didn’t carry chukhn. The worst fool is only proactive. Suvorov-respect and respect (it is a pity that I did not have to serve with him at least as a fool!).
  11. +18
    23 November 2019 07: 44
    Our people want to honor the warring ancestors, they want to bear the memory of the Great Patriotic War, and to do this in a visual way, avoiding Nazi symbols, is almost impossible.

    I agree completely !!!! .. Some comrades think it all up, like on our website .. First, the cons were banned, then the flags of ownership (supposedly not to be calculated), then again the cons were allowed and I hope the flags will appear too We are not shy in Russia your flag, etc.
    And the article "For inciting", there are spolshnie Russians convicted for some reason .. Who knows why? wink
    1. Alf
      +3
      23 November 2019 19: 51
      Quote: Politruk-M
      And the article "For inciting", there are spolshnie Russians convicted for some reason .. Who knows why?

      "Who are the judges?"
    2. -2
      23 November 2019 22: 40
      Maybe because of this? And because of people like "hehe"?
  12. +3
    23 November 2019 08: 09
    Alas, they rehabilitated Stirlitz in their own way, not only repainted, but cut out the most pro-Soviet scenes. So this is not quite that Stirlitz
  13. +3
    23 November 2019 08: 17
    I have not heard of these insanities. But now I remember once again how everyone was laughing together at the ban from the neighbors of "classmates" and "VKontakte" ... Immediately I remember Lavrov with his signature expression ...
  14. +4
    23 November 2019 08: 18
    To prohibit insanity in Russia!

    Well, then it is necessary to prohibit the State Duma and all such bodies in the least involved in decision-making, from which laws and regulations are then obtained.
  15. +8
    23 November 2019 08: 40
    People's representatives are not always interested in the reality of the EXECUTION of their laws. It is simply unrealistic to achieve a systematic implementation of the ban on obscene material, garbage in the local area, Internet control, educational standards, removal of election posters, product quality control, etc.
    What can I say if the Basic Law spells out the right to housing, instead of real content - verbal casuistry.
    So they "introduce and display" absurd "Wishlist" of exalted persons. Interesting business of "patriots". laughing
  16. +8
    23 November 2019 09: 08
    Is it possible to finish on a good note?
    Did the Duma decide?
    In recent years, I am FOR the swastika.
    Yes, I am a Soviet man, yes my grandfathers fought, one died, the other a hero, who is not written about in the newspapers ..
    I am against fascism, Hitlerism in their old and new-fashioned manifestations.
    And I'm for the swastika.
    For the swastika, which is a symbol of Slavism, a symbol of ancient Aryan farmers, a symbol of the sun and the cycle of life.
    And if some bastards, who had been deprived of their strength for 25 years by history, desecrated a symbol revered by many nations for millennia, this cannot be a reason for banning it.
    But it turned out that the Duma, as it were, supported the fascist scumbags, tying the swastika to the hate doctrine.
    And no, and it seems that no attempt is made to legitimize the swastika in its original sense and meaning.
    1. +6
      23 November 2019 11: 17
      Quote: U-58
      The Duma, as it were, supported the fascist scumbags, tying the swastika to the hate doctrine.

      The swastika is the oldest symbol on earth. It can be found in many ornaments and clothes in different countries. This is normal.



      Fascist symbolism is a swastika on a red handicap in a white circle. Only all these three elements together are a symbol of fascism.



      The swastika itself is not a sign of fascism.
      The Duma did not "support the fascist thugs." The Duma allowed to show the symbols of fascism, so that fascism would not conquer our minds.
      1. 0
        27 November 2019 12: 55
        Pay attention to the direction of the rays ...
  17. +10
    23 November 2019 09: 45
    When the NTV channel shows killings, torture, violence is the norm. The main thing is to warn that smoking scenes will be shown ...
    1. +5
      23 November 2019 19: 54
      The main thing is to warn that smoking scenes will be shown ...
      To focus on this is just to advertise. It is necessary to leave alone the old cinema; new laws should not apply to it.
    2. +1
      27 November 2019 14: 49
      NTV in general has already gotten its chernukha ... I always scroll through the shitty channel.
  18. +5
    23 November 2019 09: 55
    In general, about symbols. Did you think in 1945 banning the swastika that the symbols of the Russland division would be revived?
  19. +11
    23 November 2019 10: 01
    ... our deputies show signs of common sense ...

    even psychiatric patients have glimpses of common sense, but some do not fully

    ... and adopt sane amendments to previously adopted controversial laws.

    .. which they themselves accepted.
    It turns out that before they were, and maybe now remain, not adequate
  20. UVB
    +7
    23 November 2019 11: 45
    To prohibit insanity in Russia!
    This is actual! Right now I was switching channels and came across a children's quiz "Understand Me". The age limit is "12+". What is it that they show there that 11-year-olds and younger can't watch ?! But there are 6+! This is not even insanity, but idiocy. And after all, someone also receives a salary for this!
  21. +3
    23 November 2019 14: 25
    Well, finally you can post it ..

    Against the background of Beni Kolomoisky’s poster, more ..
    Of these retouched, already soaked .. EVERYTHING!
    1. -2
      23 November 2019 17: 08
      Fake !!! This is a very old photoshop.
      1. +2
        25 November 2019 03: 52
        By your nickname, this is immediately clear, photoshop yes. And Wolfsangel in the same place - photoshop
        1. -3
          25 November 2019 10: 18
          This is not Wolfsangel. It seems the same style but not him. This sign stands for two fishing gears: де Idea natsії.
          1. 0
            28 November 2019 22: 51
            So go, not me, to your Natsik
  22. +9
    23 November 2019 17: 32
    What is the endless postscript “forbidden in Russia” that is used every time a different kind of terrorist organization is mentioned.


    Really. what

    wassat
  23. +4
    23 November 2019 17: 56
    Some officials act according to the principle: "Make the fool pray to God" ... Fine for the picture in which the victorious warriors ... It's amazing how a person could not challenge the fine and get support, despite the fact that the case acquired a certain resonance.
  24. 0
    23 November 2019 18: 16
    "It is very pleasing that our deputies show signs of common sense and accept sane amendments to previously adopted controversial laws."

    Author. You yourself, then realized what he said? wassat lol laughing tongue good

    Who, it turns out, the people have chosen on their head? - "...our deputies show signs of common sense." wassat lol laughing tongue good

    Are you sure of that?
  25. +2
    23 November 2019 18: 23
    "Fools, Roads, and Taxes." The phrase is in the original. The authorities never liked the latter and did not publish it.
    The Nazi swastika itself is deployed in the opposite direction, please pay attention.
    Let's see how life turns out, the deputy "rule" soldier
    1. AAK
      +1
      23 November 2019 22: 17
      Very easy to turn around ....
      Another slogan will soon be relevant: "... Serfdom is guaranteed employment and confidence in the future ..."
    2. 0
      23 November 2019 22: 19
      Forgive me, I do not quite understand where and what is turned in which direction, but in the picture there is a gold badge of an honored member of the NSDAP (National Socialist Party of Working People of Germany). I know that there is a Russian proverb: "Even if you call it a pot, just don't put it in the oven." This I mean that they also called themselves socialists for the working people, contagion. But most importantly! They were POPULAR. But the people were fooled.
      And the symbol of fascism is Italy, there were liquor bars with a hatchet.

      1. +1
        23 November 2019 22: 24
        I can not work with photos and videos. Excuse me. Icon again
      2. +1
        24 November 2019 16: 51
        Quote: L-39NG
        Sorry, I didn’t quite understand where and what is turned in which direction

        I don't remember whether at school or not, but in childhood (Soviet) they explained exactly how the Nazi swastika differed from the Old Slavic - just in the direction of "zagibulin". The wheel of the "correct" swastika should rotate "salty", i.e. by the movement of the Sun, from left to right. The wheel of the Nazi swastika rotates "anti-salmon" from right to left.
  26. -1
    24 November 2019 04: 36
    Nazism is the lot of the vanquished. I remember rne and other fagots, but from a height of 186 cm. I can say, to hell in your ear! We defeated the Poles, Karl, Napoleon, Gidler, the rest in line.
  27. +3
    24 November 2019 05: 08
    I recall a case. In the Novosibirsk region, one craftsman lives in the village, who, from scrap metal, makes active copies of life-size military equipment from WWII. On the manufactured tank (it seems Czechoslovak) put the tactical mark of the Wehrmacht (black cross with a white border). The district prosecutor's office issued him a warning of responsibility, something related to the propaganda of Nazism. Showed on TV for a long time. And the fact that in this area people are paid black salaries, without taxes, they do not see.
  28. -1
    24 November 2019 09: 15
    In Russia, fools are in stock for a hundred years, and this is a fact. Like the fact that the current system prohibits thoughtless and merciless is the result of the lack of vertical mobility in power, plus the selection of personnel according to their kindred and according to the degree of devotion-deflection for a specific official, plus the lack of an idea for the basis of which, in general, all social construction takes place (who is in the woods who is firewood). And this state of affairs suits everyone, both the west and the bureaucrats and their lackeys. So it will be supported for a long time until the people rebel or until the idiology among the masses changes from country to country for me to country.
  29. 0
    24 November 2019 15: 00
    sehr gut. good correct solution
  30. +1
    24 November 2019 15: 05
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: Phil77
    Alexei! The law was passed by the deputies, right. But the execution was assigned to the bureaucratic fraternity! And here the options have already gone, such as white stripes instead of cigarettes by the protagonist, or in place of the heroine’s chest (naked and beautiful!) On the TV screen.

    And cars in films with squares in place of nameplates.

    that's the way only you have such dibilizm with painting the nameplates of the automaker .. why?
    1. +3
      24 November 2019 15: 44
      Quote: 32363
      dibilizm with painting the nameplate of the automaker .. why?

      The fight against hidden advertising. laughing
  31. 0
    24 November 2019 23: 10
    After that, everything at someone else pomelo stirs the Union to blame for something ?? Marasmus...
  32. -1
    25 November 2019 03: 49
    Something like that, well, wait a minute they are rehabilitating - otherwise it is forbidden - there Wolf SMOYS !!!
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  34. amr
    0
    3 December 2019 09: 41
    This is from the politician-economic impotence, when in the "Duma" athletes, artists, millionaires cannot and do not want to deal with the economy, but what the same should be done, well, they throw ideas at them, they push for them !!!!