Moscow and Riyadh discuss terms of delivery of S-400 air defense systems

It became known that Moscow and Riyadh are discussing the conditions for the supply of Saudi Arabia S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems.

A statement on this kind of discussion was made by the official representative of the FSVTS Maria Vorobyova. According to Maria Vorobyova, interest in Russian S-400 complexes is currently being shown not only in Saudi Arabia, but also in several other countries of the Middle East. Earlier it was reported that this kind of interest was shown, for example, in the United Arab Emirates.

Recall that some time ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin paid visits to both Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

Discussion of the supply parameters of the S-400 Triumph air defense systems for the needs of Saudi Arabian air defense is carried out under a contract that was signed in 2017. It is reported by RIA News. About when exactly the first air defense systems from Russia will be delivered to Riyadh, not reported.

The official representative of the FSMTC emphasized that the C-400 is the best anti-aircraft missile system in the world, and therefore the interest in it from an increasing number of countries in the world is fully explainable.

It should be recalled that some time ago, the largest oil production and oil refining facilities in Saudi Arabia, including the Saudi Aramco company, were attacked by UAVs and missiles. The damage was estimated at more than a billion US dollars.

Saudi Arabia plans to use Russian air defense systems to cover strategic important facilities on its territory.

Comments

[Lexeus]

The strangest thing is that everyone is shouting - "the best" complex that has not yet shown itself in real combat conditions ...........

[Something]

Finally ripe! And US sanctions are not a hindrance!

[SSR]

Quote: Something

Finally ripe! And US sanctions are not a hindrance!

Well, let's not say "gop"!
IMHA.
The S-400 also needs "Armor" because they don't shoot at flies from a cannon.

[hrych]

Quote from S.S.R.

Well, let's not say "gop"!

Many do not understand why countries that are able to acquire American systems prefer ours, or both. And the key to this is Hussein and the latest systems disconnected remotely. Those. virtually independent air defense will not work. And if the Saudis need to be able to fight back, both from our allies and not ours (Israel for example). But they have enough money to duplicate. The Turks are twofold, when the war with the Russian Federation smelled, they were Petriots and then strangers. Which would not shoot. But the Turks, of course, are concerned about Israel, and here our complexes are more reliable. Like Egypt, Iran, Syria and, in the long run, Jordan. Certainly, Israel has an overwhelming advantage in aviation over all its neighbors, and here the GDP, to Benjamin’s friend and his people, brought ... On the other hand, the S-400 is a purely defensive weapon and there is no need to fly over foreign countries. Here the other day the Palestinians made a colander from an iron dome and how Professor was proud of him, how he laughed at the Shell Remember the Dome, Brothers

[SSR]

Quote: hrych

The professor was proud of him, as he laughed at the shell. Remember the dome, Brothers

+ but I want to note separately - any air defense can be crushed! Jews are certainly advanced guys, but it so happened that the use of air defense forces is the most extensive in our country, no one attacked the United States and did not bomb their cities.
PS.
This is both the genocide and the ghetto invention of the Anglo-Saxons and the terror of the invention of the Jews.
Let minus but the fact is a fact.)))

[nerd.su]

Quote: hrych

On the other hand, the S-400 is a purely defensive weapon

Based on your logic, a bow and arrow is also a purely defensive weapon

Well, flying, let alone bombing other countries without declaring war, is really bad.

[hrych]

Quote: bot.su

Based on your logic, a bow and arrow is also a purely defensive weapon

Bow and arrow can be used for both defense and attack. And air defense - anti-air defense.

[nerd.su]

Quote: hrych

And air defense - air defense.

Here you are like an adult ... On the fence, too, a famous word of three letters is written, and there is firewood. Everything in the world is relative and if the range of the S-400 is up to 400 km, then the complex installed on the border is a potential weapon of attack. You can bring down everything that hangs in the air plus bring down everything that flies up on alarm. In general, the creation of a no-fly zone over a sovereign state is an act of aggression. And the S-400 completely allows such an act to be implemented. I'm not talking about the fact that you can hammer on surface targets if desired.
Again there is a missile defense defense. It seems to be defense, too, but Putin says it is a danger, replaced containers and quite an attack. Can you say that Putin’s advisers do not understand anything? Or understand less than yours?

[figwam]

Quote: Something

Finally ripe! And US sanctions are not a hindrance!

Hindus were faster this time. And so it turns out another country will wipe his feet on the mattress.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Something

Finally ripe! And US sanctions are not a hindrance!

Yes, I’ll say only three words: In vain, Shame, and the Enemy ....
Just an awesome decision - to sell The enemy technologies...

[Something]

Lexey (Alexey), do not write nonsense and do not sprinkle your head with ashes!

[carstorm 11]

Well, we also didn’t use the Topolis in combat conditions) and the Chinese from 400 tested in full and the reviews were extremely positive. Is this not a proof?)))

[bouncyhunter]

The mere fact that mattresses are against the acquisition of Russian complexes already suggests that the mattresses themselves recognize superiority.

[mvg]

Well, yes, there they said that they had shot down the BRDS for as much as 400 km, which is impossible. And escho mk Star says this, that you become proud of the army and navy, if you do not know the truth

[Inokenty]

Quote: mvg

Well, yes, there they said that they had shot down the BRDS for as much as 400 km, which is impossible.

As always, lies and deceit. Shot down for 380 km. It all depends on what height! For anti-aircraft missiles with ARGSN and shooting for a radio horizon is not a hindrance. Teach materielsofa strategist!

[mvg]

Kesha, just look for a glass of tea, TTX S-400. And do not draw nonsense.
Did you hear the words about the materiel from the grandmothers on the bench? Do not repeat, like an ass of the same name

[Inokenty]

Quote: mvg

Kesha, just look for a glass of tea, TTX S-400. And do not draw nonsense.

Nonsense you always draw other russophobes Illiterate non-specialist, learn materiel. I, unlike you, do not write lies on VO and I know the parameters of S-300, S-400 well.

[mvg]

Kesha, I have 2 educations, I graduated from a paramilitary university with a military department.
Conscious life I read a lot of military. He studied RCC. Commander of the warhead-2.
TTX S-400 for ballistic targets 30 km. What, nafik, 380 km? It is stated that it can intercept a ballistic missile with a range of up to 2500 km. Only in Russia there were no such tests.
PS: Kesha, come on to grandmothers. If you do not understand how BRs are intercepted. Do not forget to take the seeds peeled

[cost]

Inokenty (Inokenty) [/ b]: Learn the materiel, couch strategist!

mvg (Maxim): Kesha, .... Do not repeat, like an ass of the same name

Well, we talked

[Charik]

as if we hadn’t tested it ourselves, everything was tested at the training ground and the military was constantly trained there, the Chinese also took and tested for themselves, convinced of what performance characteristics they were promised.

[mvg]

We do not have a ballistic missile defense agreement
BRYU. WHAT TEST? All tests are monitored. Such a stink would rise! What is your head not to think?

[hydrox]

Yes, the liberoids-unions can’t understand one thing at all: the mere presence of the S-400 air defense system in the Khmeimim region led to the fact that NONE of the aircraft appeared in the radius of its destruction over the years, didn’t even appear, or that it was bombed or stormed up.

[mso.716]

Should I have?

[Livonetc]

Before that, quite often different ear-flies flew.

[mso.716]

And they bombed and stormed, right?

[Avior]

And from what distance did Israel act in the case of the tragedy of IL-20, shot down by Syrians by mistake?
Is it not in the area of ​​coverage of the S-400?

[hydrox]

Do you think that the "zone of action" of the air defense system extends to the territory of another state?
However, the overwhelming number of launches were made from the territory of Lebanon (in some cases from the Golan)

[Avior]

It was in that situation that they were over the sea, and not over Lebanon.
And before that they attacked the target relatively close to the S-400.

[hydrox]

In fact, your status does not allow you to specify combat situations, since you do not own data on courses, coordinates, speeds, type and nature of weapons, so please be kind to stumble.
Thank you in advance.

[mvg]

Come on. Considering that the c400 covers all of Israel, the Israeli Air Force does not fly at all. And "unknown" planes are bombing Syria. After how long did it jerk you like that?

[Inokenty]

Quote: mvg

Come on. Given that the c400 covers all of Israel, the Israeli Air Force does not fly at all... And "unknown" planes are bombing Syria. After how long did it jerk you like that?

They advised you learn materiel, and not write unreasonable babble, not strained by intelligence.

[hydrox]

Do not swear in vain, this is a liberoid, and they are always at odds with common sense and especially with factography (we have such a couple, they constantly drown for skakuas on political talk shows, with the names of Nikulin and Okara) - they just not on kicks make you shut up

[oligofren32]

Quote: Lexey

everyone shouts - "the best" complex which has not yet shown itself in real combat conditions ...........

vlad putn sells his idle crafts from the Mosfilm cartoon for billions to natives from china / turkey / india, and only three kopecks were spent on the filming of which. What, in this case, will our compassionate liberals "give" to our unfortunate old people and children?
Shl and now seriously. Have you got a new training manual? Yesterday you talked about a knife in the back from the Sultan, about tomatoes, about our loans to the Sultan for the construction of our own nuclear power plant, about our unfortunate old people and children, etc., and so on, and now you have another mulka, it turns out "a complex that has not shown itself as yet." ... Take off the cross.

[D16]

everyone shouts - "the best" complex that has not yet shown itself in real combat conditions

Because they do not bite (c) Advertising

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The strangest thing is that everyone is shouting - "the best" complex that has not yet shown itself in real combat conditions ...........

Well, tell us how the latest long-range air defense systems proved to be in real combat conditions of the USA, France, Israel?

To compare the capabilities of the complexes, it is enough to know their capabilities in range, the number of intercepted targets, the speed of the targets hit, etc. and compare.

And victory in battle is achieved not by weapons, but by tactics of its use.

[_Ugene_]

The strangest thing is that everyone is shouting - "the best" to the complex, which has not yet shown itself in real combat conditions

shout, let’s say, not all, but the manufacturer, and what else should he shout? Is our complex the worst in the world? but the way the S-400 is sold in the world suggests that the manufacturer, in this case, may be screaming the truth

[Thrifty]

The United States will do everything so that the Saudis do not buy our C400, until the change of power in the country.

[hydrox]

I would also not give the Arabs such a technique: camel drivers would never even master the basics of anti-aircraft missile business, and even to organize a comprehensive object cover - this would be worse for them than the mathematics of Lobachevsky.

[D16]

camel drivers will never master even the basics of anti-aircraft missile business

Hire no drovers. The better the technique, the easier it is to master it. With MLRS Patriot they somehow did not ask .

[Saboteur Holuy]

See this complex in real combat conditions? And then we even tell the President a lie ...

[Charik]

or vice versa (about untruth)

[brr1]

Quote: Diversant Holuy

See this complex in real combat conditions? And then we even tell the President a lie ...

I figured it out, it’s a network sadomasochist, it rushes from dislikes. Do not respond to it, do not let the disease progress. Without cons, he will die, do not react to him at all. Not minus not plus. Who does not believe me, go into it, and read his comments. They are all masochistic.

[Charik]

first, let the US sanctions try on, then sell 400, otherwise it’s somehow not culturally possible — an unsanctioned country and with s400

[Tank jacket]

At least 13 countries are interested in buying Russian S-400 air defense systems, despite the likelihood of US sanctions.
Shell want to acquire 40 states.

[Livonetc]

This deal (so far only probable) is a spit on US sanctions against Russia.

[Operator]

Everything was as planned: the Chinese / Indians / Turks / Arabs - the S-400, we - the S-500, and the suckers to the Israelis with the "Penguins" - the baaalshy piston

[askort154]

At the international level, a new weapon "brand" of Russia is emerging, next to the "Kalash" - "S-400"!

[Kasym]

The USA has been familiar with this brand since Vietnam (I mean the SAM of the USSR).

[parkello]

the Saudis have money. it's good

[AAK]

The 400th can normally complete its task only with Russian calculation, even the ability of the Turks to use it normally causes me some doubts, well, and if you give it to the heroic Saudis, then everything will end in big zil ...

[okko077]

Everything is simple there. Made for a "fool" ... Only difficulties with the "friend or foe" system, and they do not conduct a maneuver war and do not care about survival, they will shine day and night, so it is better to connect them to an industrial network, and connect standard generators in emergency mode ... By the way, a very interesting question about power supply systems! And about reliability in continuous operation? And here we can compete with pi_ndos? So, not everything is so "white and fluffy". Technicians will understand me!

[D16]

The 400th can normally complete its task only with Russian calculation,

Where did such revelations come from?

[AAK]

And you, colleague, take an interest in the fate of the then Soviet "Buks" in the Syrian air defense in the Bekaa Valley, and what was left of them after a far from the most massive raid of the Israeli Air Force, so there were calculations from the Syrians, who are still one of the most sane among Arabs ...

[D16]

inquire about the fate of the then Soviet Buks in Syria's air defense in the Bekaa Valley

If you do not understand the difference between the export square and the Soviet beech, then ... Well, you understand me

so there the calculations were from the Syrians

In the war of the 73rd year, the calculations were also mainly from Arabs, but the losses of Jews from air defense amounted to 82 sides with their minimum. After 10 years, this technique is outdated and would be destroyed with any calculations. It was no longer difficult to reload castrated single-channel complexes with a minimum lesion height of 100m. Moreover, at that time drones began to use.

[AAK]

Believe me, colleague, I quite understand the difference, I served in the Air Defense Forces in the 80s and talked with people who were advisers in the SAR at that time, incl. we went to inspect the remnants of the division ... there, only when the enemy approached, all the calculations were pulled from their positions, abandoning the equipment, it's not obsolete and not channeling, Yugoslavia is an example of this, the S-125 is in every way ancient "Buk" ...

[D16]

And you hung your ears. About the Soviet Buki in the Bekaa Valley which were not born there. The easiest way to explain the failures in that war is to blame the causes of all ills on the Arabs. And we used it to the fullest.

there, only when the enemy approached, all calculations were pulled from their positions by abandoning equipment, it was not an obsolescence or a channel

This only confirms that the Arabs understand well the shortcomings of the technology entrusted to them. Of course, I'm joking, but there is some truth. At 73m for some reason they didn’t run, and now they don’t run.

Yugoslavia is an example of this, the S-125 is in every way older than the Buk ...

And what is so extraordinary happened in Yugoslavia? Did you find a bright head and set up a hunt for the F-117? This war is an example of the fact that weak air defense and aviation cannot stop the bombing. Again, there were no Buks either in the Bekaa or in Yugoslavia.

[axiles100682]

I, too, do not have a high opinion of Arabs as military. In case of something they will manage and write off their shoals on the S-400. These "warriors" will make anti-advertising to any weapon with their hands

[capsid]

While discussing the terms of delivery .. And will there be supplies or not ?! We’ll see on TV.

[awg75]

In our country, responsible people do not allow unauthorized information leaks. if they said, then everything has already been decided. something like this.

[capsid]

)) These "responsible" people have already done a lot.

[Tank jacket]

To protect sovereignty, the S-400 oil refining industry will do. Patriot will not be able to shoot down f / 16, f / 35 and Axes and "unknown" UAVs ... And then suddenly the Saudis will be declared dictators, so what ???

[Jerk]

So the brand changes the brand - the new name of the brainchild Reyteon ZDK (anti-aircraft fool). Delivered only to ... GM ... Israel

[knn54]

There is no need to do just one S-400. A Russian, not an American, approach to the principle of the ECHELENGED construction of an air defense / missile defense system is needed. That is, plus Buk ,, Tor, Shell, electronic warfare system.

[Nikolay87]

Formulate on paper, send to the prince, with all due respect

[mvg]

The Soviet approach of layered air defense proved to be in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, once again in Syria, Yugoslavia
Are you few? Where else to experiment?

[Inokenty]

Quote: mvg

The Soviet approach of layered air defense proved to be in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, once again in Syria, Yugoslavia

So try the S-300, S-400. Afraid, you only know how to jackal ...

[mvg]

Try a little different. To the topic of VO this is not relevant. And so we tried in Cyprus, Greece, Syria ... nothing, digestible. There are no victims and destruction. Not a single real hit

[Grigory Gromov]

Quote: mvg

Try a little different. To the topic of VO this is not relevant. And so we tried in Cyprus, Greece, Syria ... nothing, digestible. There are no victims and destruction. Not a single real hit

mvg (Maxim) - As always, bile ahs and oohs. Like you have already tried to present a fake about the defeat of "Pantsir-C1" at VO, openly present a lie, forgetting, however, that anti-aircraft missiles do not fly like that and do not have such maneuverability as presented in the fake ...

[Sitearvi]

Interesting, but Americans know about it.

[vitvit123]

Something in this thread while no one suffers that Americans will learn all the secrets! I hope the S-400 will be a consumer product. And a lot of money will bring the country (and the people who created it).

[D16]

Putin personally offered the Americans to buy it. Amers have an S-300. It did not help them.

[vitvit123]

If this is you to me, then I heard it and don’t worry about it (in modern realities). In my opinion, there are two pluses and all are huge: the authority of the United States and the profits of my state are undermined.

[D16]

I heard it and don’t worry about it

Doing right .

[mvg]

And how was it supposed to help? Again nonsense?
Well, for example, the S-300 has not yet been shot down anywhere. Despite the 2 divisions of S-300PMU2 in Syria

[D16]

And how was it supposed to help?

To help turn the Patriot from MLRS into an air defense system to begin with.

Despite the 2 divisions of S-300PMU2 in Syria

In Syria, there is an absolute political turbidity, the roots of which are Russian-Israeli relations. Unfortunately, the Jewish lobby exists not only in the USA. And this is one of the reasons for the defeats in the Arab-Israeli conflicts. This is known in the Arab world and it has a strong influence on relations with Arab countries.

[mvg]

Patriot really participated in the database. He shot down the BR. S-300 where is famous?
But did Israel know for the Jewish lobby in the USSR when it shot down Soviet MiGs? And the Arabs, when they attacked Israel with a coalition from 6 countries? Or already found out when the IDF was 15 km from Damascus and a hundred from Cairo?

[D16]

Patriot really participated in the database. He shot down the BR.

Only he was not famous for this.

S-300 where is famous?

It sounds paradoxical, but the absence of reasons for combat shooting is the best advertisement for defensive weapon systems.

But did Israel know for the Jewish lobby in the USSR when it shot down Soviet MiGs?

I knew very well. Like the fact that behind the RUS Mig sits an Arab.

And the Arabs, when they attacked Israel with a coalition from 6 countries?

They knew, but they had no choice.

Or already found out when the IDF was 15 km from Damascus and a hundred from Cairo?

Thanks to the Jewish lobby in the USSR and the USA, they ended up there.

[Inokenty]

Quote: mvg

Well, for example, the S-300 haven’t hit anything yet. Despite the 2 divisions of S-300PMU2 in Syria

As always - all according to the manuals of the State Department... A little check !? Immediately fear in the eyes of "mattresses" and other Russophobia!

[Chaldon48]

I’m afraid, as if judged by our technical incompetence, they would not compromise our air defense.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

I’m tormented by the question: in what currency will the Saudis pay with us for four hundredths? We do not need amers dollars.

[D16]

They will pay with their rials. Who cares?

[NF68]

Will the US now threaten Saudi Arabia or pretend that nothing unpleasant for the USA will happen in this case?

[Old26]

Quote: bouncyhunter

The mere fact that mattresses are against the acquisition of Russian complexes already suggests that the mattresses themselves recognize superiority.

I think that the reason is somewhat different, and not in the quality of Russian weapons. And Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, and other countries of the Persian Gulf - this is, in agricultural terms, a plot. which the USA has always cultivated and they don’t want to lose sales markets. Therefore, all US actions aimed at disrupting such contracts. For the Americans oh how profitable it is to lose such arms markets
And after all, against the same India, the USA does not apply any sanctions, despite the desire to buy the Russian S-400. In addition to Turkey, no one fell under the distribution, there were no sanctions against them. Yes, and Turkey most likely staged a demonstrative flogging, although in this case, Trump froze the stupidity of Turkey. Americans will not do anything against Saudi Arabia and other oil monarchies.

Quote: hydrox

Yes, the liberoids-unions can’t understand one thing at all: the mere presence of the S-400 air defense system in the Khmeimim region led to the fact that NONE of the aircraft appeared in the radius of its destruction over the years, didn’t even appear, or that it was bombed or stormed up.

Well, here you’ve gone too far, saying that NO ONE the plane does not appear in the radius of destruction of the S-400 complex, not to bomb.
A raid on Syria in April last year. The French and British used cruise missiles with a range of 250 km. The target was at a depth of 50-60 km from the coast. Aircraft fired at a distance of 100-150 km from the base in Hmeimim ....
I'm not saying that by releasing the Kyrgyz Republic and guided bombs on Syrian-Iranian targets in Syria, Israeli planes were in the zone of destruction of the Khmeimime airbase complexes, not to mention the complexes located in Tartus ...

Quote: knn54

There is no need to do just one S-400. A Russian, not an American, approach to the principle of the ECHELENGED construction of an air defense / missile defense system is needed. That is, plus Buk ,, Tor, Shell, electronic warfare system.

Furthermore. Buying one or two regimental sets of the same S-400 will not make the weather. In count. And without an echeloned system, the S-400 may "fail"

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

I’m tormented by the question: in what currency will the Saudis pay with us for four hundredths? We do not need amers dollars.

What currency is now internationally recognized? And a very bold statement that we do not need dollars.

[Liam]

Quote: Old26

And without an echeloned system, the S-400 may "fail"

Can you give an example when this semi-mythical "shaded" ground air defense system worked?

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

What currency is now internationally recognized? And a very bold statement that we do not need dollars.

And who did you think of talking about us? I meant myself and my wife, and you?))) We have a deficit of rubles and a surplus of dollars in Russia))) My wife and I live for rubles (housing and communal services, taxes, shops, etc.), and YOU?

[hydrox]

Quote: Old26

Well, here you went a little too far, saying that NO ONE plane does not appear in the radius of destruction of the S-400 complex, not to bomb.

And what, nobody has yet told you, one hundred Russia did not work to keep ALL of Syria under its air defense umbrella?
And the second one: And they did not look at the GEOGRAPHIC map that ALL KRs were heading along the mountainous surface of Lebanon, where the S-400 CANNOT ATTACH them in principle, but they are standing on the plain coast? But the electronic warfare used, it was ...
Ai-yai-yay, why are you so?

[Old26]

Quote: Inocentius

Quote: mvg

Come on. Given that the c400 covers all of Israel, the Israeli Air Force does not fly at all... And "unknown" planes are bombing Syria. After how long did it jerk you like that?

They advised you learn materiel, and not write unreasonable babble, not strained by intelligence.

You write babbling, defending the comrade who wrote the blizzard about the fact that not a single plane appeared in the radius of the S-400. You must be a complete layman to write, and the same layman to support such a post. so right - learn materiel

Quote: Inocentius

Quote: mvg

Well, for example, the S-300 haven’t hit anything yet. Despite the 2 divisions of S-300PMU2 in Syria

As always - all according to the manuals of the State Department... A little check !? Immediately fear in the eyes of "mattresses" and other Russophobia!

If the facts do not coincide with your highly trained opinion, then the worse for the facts. And instead of arguing to answer - hanging labels about the State Department manuals. But history shows that neither the S-300 system nor the S-400 system NEVER PARTICIPATED in the fighting and did not bring down NOT ONE AIRCRAFT. Exclusively only in exercises ...
Even the US Patriot, which does not always show good results, has been taking part in hostilities since 1991 and has been modernized many times.

[Inokenty]

Quote: Inocentius

Quote: mvg

Well, yes, there they said that they had shot down the BRDS for as much as 400 km, which is impossible.

As always, lies and deceit. Shot down for 380 km. It all depends on what height! For anti-aircraft missiles with ARGSN and shooting for a radio horizon is not a hindrance. Learn materiel, sofa strategist!

They shot down an aerial target, not a ballistic missile defense. Information was provided from China.

Quote: Old26 (Vladimir)

Quote: mvg

Come on. Considering that the c400 covers all of Israel, the Israeli Air Force does not fly at all. And "unknown" planes are bombing Syria. After how long did it jerk you like that?

Quote: Inocentius

You were advised to learn the materiel, and not to write unreasonable babble, not strained by intelligence.

You write babbling, defending the comrade who wrote the blizzard about the fact that not a single plane appeared in the radius of the S-400. You must be a complete layman to write, and the same layman to support such a post. so right - learn materiel

Old26, you probably haven’t figured it out or write a deliberate lie. Oh yes, you do not know physics, the radio horizon, radar, according to your expressions:

Quote: Old26 (Vladimir)

There is no complete radar field. And missiles and drones could go below the level of the radio horizon of Saudi radars.

Old26, the level (value) of the radio horizon is measured in kilometers, according to the height of your radar antenna above the Earth and your absurdity is immediately visible. It will be right rockets and drones fly relative to the horizon. You do not distinguish physically. Next is your expression:

Quote: Old26 (Vladimir)

"Patriot" has shown itself, oddly enough. For almost 30 years, he participated in hostilities in one way or another. When it’s good, when it’s not good. But the fact that neither the S-300, nor the S-400 have ever participated in hostilities - the author of the article is right. And it is not known how he will behave. For the main thing is not iron, but trained personnel. And if the calculations are skew-handed, then even the supersystem will not fulfill its functions.

Old26, specialist reply to you:

Quote: Tony (Tony)

And how did the "Patriot" show itself? Obviously not for the best! And how will the S-300, S-400 behave? If you do not know, then do not write the same thing over and over again, namely your wrong assumptions! S-300, S-400 have automatic interception modes, without the actions of the service personnel, and this is the main mode. And about the calculations of the club-handed - leave yourself incorrect statements. Each S-300, S-400 system is tested in real conditions at ranges, where real shooting is carried out at targets of various classes in conditions of interference and strikes them, after which an analysis of the compliance of the characteristics of anti-aircraft systems is carried out according to the declared ones. Among other things, suppression systems against interference are being checked - which the enemy can use. Considering all this, we can state the interception of real targets with a high degree of probability p = 0,9999 in a real battle.

Old26, the following is your ignorant expression:

Quote: Old26 (Vladimir)

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

They say drones broke firewood. Were they wrong.

Here are some bad Nizenko, Nizenko flying, lower than the radar!

And what do you think. If such drones fly at a height of five meters with a minimum for the S-300 / S-400 of 10 meters, will they see them and bring them down ??

Old26, specialist reply to you:

Quote: Tony (Tony)

Do not write your illiterate assumptions.
Firstly: the S-300, S-400 air defense systems are used with the Pantsir-C2 and Tor-M2 short-range air defense systems, which are designed to intercept UAVs. It makes no sense to use anti-aircraft missiles: S-300, S-400 - by shooting at "sparrows", "fly into the pipe."
You are writing incorrect data from the Internet. Missiles: 9M96E, 9M96M, 9M96E2, 9M100E - have a minimum interception height of 5 meters, like many others ... Your statements do not make sense.

Old26, your complete ignorance!

Quote: Old26 (Vladimir)

Quote: mvg

Well, for example, the S-300 haven’t hit anything yet. Despite the 2 divisions of S-300PMU2 in Syria

Quote: Inocentius

As always - everything according to the training manual of the State Department. A little check !? Immediately fear in the eyes of the "mattresses" and other Russophobia!

If the facts do not coincide with your highly trained opinion, then the worse for the facts. And instead of arguing to answer - hanging labels about the State Department manuals. But history shows that neither the S-300 system, nor the S-400 system has NEVER PARTICIPATED in the hostilities and has not shot down ANY AIRCRAFT. Exclusively only in exercises ...
Even the US Patriot, which does not always show good results, has been taking part in hostilities since 1991 and has been modernized many times.

Old26, you are probably Russophobe, otherwise it’s impossible to explain your love for Patriot, which is inferior to the S-400 in terms of parameters. Repeat the same mantra all the time. And you are rather a layman, but I just can’t determine which one. Full or incomplete? You tried to hang this label on me higher ... Learn the materiel!

[ender]

I wonder if this deal takes place - will they continue to root for the Houthis? )

[Charik]

Who has a C400? and which of them has the sanctions of amers? In my opinion, China and Turkey? Well, that is, only sell to those who have US sanctions