The Caspian flotilla will be strengthened by the Bal coastal complex

The Bal anti-ship coastal missile system will go into service with the Caspian coastal defense units flotilla. This was reported by Rear Fleet Commander Rear Admiral Sergey Pinchuk in an interview with the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper of the Russian Defense Ministry.

According to the commander, the Bal anti-ship complex should enter the arsenal of the flotilla and take up combat duty before the end of this year. This will be the second such complex, the first entered service with the Caspian Flotilla in 2011.

We plan that by the end of 2019, the Bal coastal missile system will take up combat duty

- said Pinchuk.

Note that the Bal coastal defense missile system was adopted in the 2008 year. It is included in the composition of coastal defense forces, designed to protect territorial waters, naval bases, coastal infrastructure and for anti-landing coastal defense.

The complex consists of two vehicles — a command and control command post, as well as up to four vehicles with launchers equipped with an X-35 anti-ship missile with a range of 120 km, an X-35E missile and an X-35U-260 missile . On each machine, 8 missiles in special containers. In addition, the complex includes four transport and handling machines designed to form a repeated full salvo.

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[New Year day]

The business is necessary, the business is important

[1976AG]

Is there anyone to defend against?

[New Year day]

Quote: 1976AG

Is there anyone to defend against?

Then, according to your logic, the Caspian flotilla is not needed there? If there is no watchman, then there is a thief immediately

[1976AG]

You are drawing the wrong conclusions. The flotilla protects the territorial waters and the economic zone. The countries entering the Caspian have ships, and hence the ability to disrupt them. "Ball" is designed to prevent attacks from the sea on coastal infrastructure facilities. That is why I asked, is there anyone to attack our facilities?

[New Year day]

Quote: 1976AG

Countries entering the Caspian have ships, and therefore the ability to break them.

И

Quote: 1976AG

"Ball" is designed to prevent attacks from the sea on coastal infrastructure facilities

What is the contradiction?

[1976AG]

Ships can perform border functions guarding borders at sea. Do you see the difference?

[New Year day]

I see that one complements the other and does not contradict the general task. How much does access to the sea cost? How much does battery deployment cost? In my opinion, prices are not comparable

[Lexus]

The more combat systems we have, the more inferiority complexes the enemies have. There will be no additional "Ball" in the Caspian Sea, it can always be thrown to where the enemy "missed" a long arm with a massive fist.

Good luck to our military in study and service! Persistently overcome all difficulties and difficulties!
And a little humor doesn’t hurt.

[1976AG]

Suppose ships of another state are engaged in illegal fishing in our waters. Will you use the "Ball" against them? And the ships will perform the task accurately. That's the whole difference.

[New Year day]

Quote: 1976AG

That's the only difference.

Maybe you are right. And in the case of the Crimea, it turned out to be enough to transfer them to the Crimea. Remember how GDP talked about this episode?

[1976AG]

It is possible to transfer, but the forces are too unequal for someone in the Caspian to attack us in the adult. The Black Sea is a completely different matter - there the NATO also hang out, and Turkey is also a neighbor.

[New Year day]

Quote: 1976AG

but the forces are too unequal for someone in the Caspian to attack us in an adult.

I think that nobody will attack us there at all. But the MO was guided by something? I believe that the question in economics is which is cheaper?

[1976AG]

Ships can perform DBK functions, but DBK can’t do for ships, so all of this is strange.

[Flooding]

If it was so impatient to strengthen the Caspian coast with coastal complexes, why not install an artillery "Coast"? I agree with you about Bala. His place is on the Black Sea or in the Far East.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Silvestr

I think that nobody will attack us there at all. But the MO was guided by something?

From a telephone conversation:
-Hello! Hello! Sergey Kuzhugetovich! How will we please the Caspian sailors on New Year's Eve?
-And let's arrange a New Year's ball for them.
Speak louder, not heard!
-Organize a ball for them. Hear Ball! Just prepare everything in advance!
-I got it! Will be done!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 1976AG

Suppose ships of another state are engaged in illegal fishing in our waters. Will you use the "Ball" against them? And the ships will perform the task accurately. That's the whole difference.

And what does the Navy have to do with it?
The fleet does not have the right to suppress illegal fishing - this is the competence of the FSB.

[1976AG]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: 1976AG

Suppose ships of another state are engaged in illegal fishing in our waters. Will you use the "Ball" against them? And the ships will perform the task accurately. That's the whole difference.

And what does the Navy have to do with it?
The fleet does not have the right to suppress illegal fishing - this is the competence of the FSB.

And especially not the DBK function

[marshes]

Quote: Silvestr

Then, according to your logic, the Caspian flotilla is not needed there? If there is no watchman, then there is a thief immediately

Rulers did not come out.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: 1976AG

Is there anyone to defend against?

Then, according to your logic, the Caspian flotilla is not needed there? If there is no watchman, then there is a thief immediately

Not so. This is how it should be. And "Caliber" also flew at one time per 300 km Use knowledge in a colleague's military equipment Do not be shy.

[New Year day]

Quote: Observer2014

And "Caliber" also flew at one time

tooting RTOs with "Calibers" were also built for the Caspian Sea, then some were transferred to the Black Sea, and then to the Baltic.
Everything has its own meaning, sometimes unknown to us.

[Observer2014]

We ... I personally know many things. Decades of study of your favorite military topics. You are a smart person. You will succeed.

[New Year day]

Quote: Observer2014

I personally know many things

then the question is: do you need BAL there or not? The dispute did not resolve this issue

[Observer2014]

With its current official capabilities. I'll tell you frankly. Like a hare the fifth leg. Well ... you remember the story with "Caliber" on the Caspian Sea

[New Year day]

Quote: Observer2014

I’ll tell you straight. Like a hare the fifth leg

I do not argue! Well, for some reason they put it !!!!!!!!! So it makes sense. I do not want to believe in meaninglessness

[Observer2014]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Observer2014

I’ll tell you straight. Like a hare the fifth leg

I do not argue! Well, for some reason they put it !!!!!!!!! So it makes sense

Yes. Because with the length of our sea borders ....
By the way, colleague. I let out squeals and cons who "Ball" with "Bastion" confuses.

[New Year day]

Quote: Observer2014

Yes. Because with the length of our sea borders ....

here I am about the same!

[Observer2014]

At the expense of sea borders. Only for. And here is the "Ball" with the Kh-35 anti-ship missile. This is a serious weapon for the Caspian Sea. True to address geopolitical issues This is where "Bastion" is needed

[New Year day]

Quote: Observer2014

True to address geopolitical issues

Here! Azerbaijan in 2014 wanted to receive the "Ball", but Russia refused to supply the coastal missile complex (DBK) "Bal-E" to the Azerbaijani military because of the risks it could pose to ensure the safety of navigation of the ships of the Caspian Flotilla.
And they say. that everyone in the Caspian is friends

[marshes]

In the direction from the Iranians or ISIS.

[Jerk]

Azerbaijan is pro-Turkish ... Iran is such a thing, it’s also not to say right away ... Turkmens do not understand who it is now. And China climbed into Kazakhstan with both legs. Yes, from whom is there to defend ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Jerk

Azerbaijan is pro-Turkish ... Iran is such a thing, it’s also not to say right away ...

Turkmens will be forced to lean against someone and not the fact that we are. Judging because the Russians rushed from there, not to us

[marshes]

Quote: Jerk

Azerbaijan is pro-Turkish ... Iran is such a thing, it’s also not to say right away ... Turkmens do not understand who it is now. And China climbed into Kazakhstan with both legs. Yes, from whom is there to defend ...

You do not cheat yourself, all the states that are described and the day against Russia will not stand.
For example, there is no illusion in Kazakhstan and an open border fleet is being built, although we have a pathetic name for the Navy, inside the uterine spiral, in fact, it performs border functions.
As well as the pathos-Marines, they could simply be called the Coast Guard. In short, everyone is sawing the budget as they can.

[Piramidon]

Quote: marshes

You do not cheat yourself, all the states that are described and the day against Russia will not stand.

And you do not allow the presence of NATO bases on their territory? They themselves will not fight against Russia, but for grandmas they may well surrender their territories to bases.

[ioan-e]

Quote: 1976AG

Is there anyone to defend against?

If Old Man began to go crazy, why can't Ilham do the same? And Iran is a situational "ally", again in Kazakhstan an incomprehensible movement with the transition to the Latin alphabet .......

[1976AG]

Quote: ioan-e

Quote: 1976AG

Is there anyone to defend against?

If Old Man began to go crazy, why can't Ilham do the same? And Iran is a situational "ally", again in Kazakhstan an incomprehensible movement with the transition to the Latin alphabet .......

And how much strength does Ilham have? What purpose can he really achieve by attacking us?

[ioan-e]

Quote: 1976AG

And how much strength does Ilham have? What purpose can he really achieve by attacking us?

More than rodents had in 2008!

[marshes]

Quote: ioan-e

again, in Kazakhstan, an incomprehensible mover with the transition to the Latin alphabet .......

It was necessary to turn to Latin in the 90s as Uzbeks, Turkmens and Azerbaijanis, there would be less noise.

[Yeraz]

Quote: marshes

It was necessary to turn to Latin in the 90s as Uzbeks, Turkmens and Azerbaijanis, there would be less noise.

ahaha)) really needed then)))

[marshes]

Quote: Yeraz

ahaha)) really needed then)))

Now it dawned on what I needed; in the army, some had already begun to write their names in the Arabic alphabet while jokingly writing and the year was 93.
Those who wrote crouched after a while, hygiene beneath their chin bred.

[Yeraz]

Quote: marshes

Now it dawned on me that it was necessary,

right now, all these processes will be perceived by Russia with hostility. Russia has gained strength and is pushing many moments tightly around the perimeter. And leaders with eggs can only push moments. But there are none along the perimeter.

[marshes]

Quote: Yeraz

. And leaders with eggs can only push moments. But there are none along the perimeter.

Now they are not there, not until 2024 we are pulling.

[Yeraz]

Quote: marshes

Now they are not there, not until 2024 we are pulling.

you even had a semblance of eggs, but he is on his way to another world, and ours will shake his quail eggs for a long time)))

[Marxal2019]

Quote: ioan-e

why can't Ilham do the same?

How easily you make an enemy from Azerbaijan. It amazes me.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Marxal2019

How easily you make an enemy from Azerbaijan. It amazes me

Why be amazed. This has always been the case, as if some of our comrades would not try to climb into one place without soap))

[Ros 56]

For someone else’s good there are always those who wish, it is better to have than vice versa.

[engineer74]

Quote: 1976AG

Is there anyone to defend against?

We know both the Caspian flotilla and the performance characteristics of our missiles ... When they set targets in South America, please do not be surprised.

[Piramidon]

Quote: 1976AG

Is there anyone to defend against?

There, Iran densely lies under the Yankees and Azerbaijan is a rather muddy country. One can expect everything from the Turkmen. They themselves may not attack, but NATO bases may well be placed on its territory.

[Yeraz]

Quote: Piramidon

There, Iran lies tightly under the Yankees.

Iran lies under the Yankees ????

[Piramidon]

Quote: Yeraz

Iran lies under the Yankees ????

I apologize, I really, like Zhenya Psaki, have mixed up with Iraq. Apparently, age affects. .

[g1v2]

It’s another matter that the Caspian doesn’t need it much. There are no competitors in our country.

[1976AG]

Quote: g1v2

It’s another matter that the Caspian doesn’t need it much. There are no competitors in our country.

Here I am about the same.

[cost]

Why are we sharply strengthening our positions in the Caspian? The answer is simple: we are forced to react to the attempts of the Americans to penetrate this region. Think about the "Agreement between Kazakhstan and the United States on the use of the seaports of Kuryk and Aktau" that Russia thwarted in 2018, But the "Agreement between Kazakhstan and the United States on transit" has already been signed and calculated until 2022

[marshes]

Quote: Rich

Think about the "Agreement between Kazakhstan and the United States on the use of the seaports of Kuryk and Aktau", which Russia thwarted in 2018, But the "Agreement between Kazakhstan and the United States on transit" has already been signed and calculated until 2022

Yes, he didn’t rip it off, as the goods were shipped before this and are delivered to Afghanistan. Now, however, Ulyanovsk is not contrived.

[kepmor]

and here are the Kazakh ports and our Ball ??? ...
Americans on the Caspian Sea are not going to drop ships from the S-130 ... unless to teleport ...

[Bar2]

like the Turkmens, how to trample. don’t stop ...

[kepmor]

it may be good, but just why deploy this complex to the Caspian ??? ...
really on what targets will he shoot ??? ... from whom to defend then gathered ??? ... or on the principle of "Schaub was" ??? ...
Tehran and Baku will go to war with us ??? ... or will we drown boats of Elbasy and Turkmenbashi ??? ... so for this, the forces and means of the CFL and the aviation of the South-East Military District are more than enough ...

[knn54]

Alexey, let the listed persons think you.

[marshes]

Quote: knn54

Alexey, let the listed persons think you.

Yes, they are on a call, in time they will be in Moscow.

[Grits]

Quote: kepmor

it may be good, but just why deploy this complex to the Caspian ??? ...

You can, of course, if he is superfluous. Then let it stand. But, something tells me that somewhere in the Baltic, the Black Sea or on the Pacific coast, he would very much not be out of place.

[Evil 55]

Perhaps there are advanced missiles with increased firing range and it is advisable to test them in the climatic conditions of the Middle East ..

[kepmor]

Syria is not enough ??? ... or again igil won ??? ...

[Kosh]

Frankly speaking, one more "Ball" there may require only as an additional reserve for the transfer and strengthening of coastal defense in the Black Sea. There, even the ships of the Caspian Flotilla, in their power, surpass everything that all other Caspian states combined have.

[Old26]

Quote: 1976AG

And how much strength does Ilham have? What purpose can he really achieve by attacking us?

The main player is not Ilham, and not Turkmenistan with Kazakhstan. The main player is Iran. Which is gradually increasing its marine grouping in the Caspian.

Quote: kepmor

Tehran and Baku will go to war with us ??? ...

baku - the probability is zero. What Iran is capable of in this region - we don’t know yet. Suppose that Iranian fundamentalists direct the edge of their expansion, albeit creeping, to the same Central Asian states with which we have contractual obligations. Or to the same Azerbaijan. Then what, to transfer coastal complexes from the Black Sea to the Caspian?

Quote: Evil 55

Perhaps there are advanced missiles with increased firing range and it is advisable to test them in the climatic conditions of the Middle East ..

The upgraded X-35U is already in service. More advanced there is not necessary. It practically covers the entire Caspian in width. And it can be transferred from the RPM, if necessary, to one and a half hundred kilometers to the south

[1976AG]

Suppose that Iranian fundamentalists direct the edge of their expansion, albeit creeping, to the same states of Central Asia with which we have contractual obligations. Or to the same Azerbaijan. Then what, to transfer coastal complexes from the Black Sea to the Caspian?

In this case, DBK is also not needed. Armed groups will be destroyed by other means and DBK will not help here.

[Old26]

Quote: Kosh

Frankly speaking, one more "Ball" there may require only as an additional reserve for the transfer and strengthening of coastal defense in the Black Sea. There, even the ships of the Caspian Flotilla, in their power, surpass everything that all other Caspian states combined have.

Iran has missile boats in the Caspian. They are going to build frigates. Few? And what, an additional 4 launchers to the four existing ones will be superfluous to cover almost 700 km of the border and two naval bases?

[marshes]

Quote: Old26

Iran has missile boats in the Caspian. They are going to build frigates. Few?

The Iranians are rather stupid, they instructed quite a few of their banks at the banks in the Caspian, the eastern coast is generally hydrographically complex, and the western coast is not jelly closer to Azerbaijan.
Yes, the most inexperienced captains are Iranians, although everyone knows that they are from the IRGC, so the Iranian fleet is not scary, not living in the Shahs and the next 20 years. Those in the United States and Germany, France and Italy received education, now they are not, even in command.
One link of the Su-30 and the entire fleet will delight the fish.

[Dikson]

Why are you only considering Iran and the Caspian countries? If the United States decides to go to war with Iran, why shouldn’t its troops appear in the ports of Turkmenistan or Kazakhstan, for further landing on the Iranian coast? And the devil will know what is going on there ... So they returned the complex ...

[Yeraz]

Quote: Dikson

why do not their troops appear in the ports of Turkmenistan or Kazakhstan, for further landing on the Iranian coast?

because recently an agreement was signed between the Caspian countries that foreign troops cannot be in the Caspian.
It is legally enshrined.

[1976AG]

That's when they build (if they have time) then you can deploy the complexes, this is done very quickly, unlike the construction of ships. And deploying DBK against what appears in years to ... is unreasonable. Frigates are not boats for you; they are not built in a year.

[marshes]

Quote: 1976AG

Frigates are not boats for you; they are not built in a year.

Yes, because of the features, the whole fleet is boat, with a max. draft not more than 1.5 meters.

[Chaldon48]

The defense in the Caspian Sea is constantly growing, against whom?

[Pavel57]

Are there real threats in the Caspian? Or is it a reserve of the high command?

[Alexey RA]

According to the commander, the Bal anti-ship complex should enter the arsenal of the flotilla and take up combat duty before the end of this year. This will be the second such complex, the first entered service with the Caspian Flotilla in 2011.

Oh, and the same confusing wording.
In fact, the SCRC "Ball" division in the Caspian Flotilla was from 2011 to 2014. After that, the division was transferred to Crimea, where it became part of the 15th coastal missile brigade.

The Bal coastal anti-ship systems were transferred from the Caspian flotilla to the Crimea and are included in the 15th coastal missile brigade, the bmpd blogger reports with reference to his colleague eagle_rost.
... on the basis of numerous data that appeared on the network, “it can be argued that from July 1, 2014, the 46th separate coastal missile division was relocated from Kaspiysk to Sevastopol, withdrawn from the Caspian Flotilla and disbanded as independent on December 1, 2014 military unit, ”the blogger writes.
According to him, "from the same number, the division with the Ball missile system was introduced into the 15-th separate newly formed coastal missile brigade."
“Thus,” the author concludes, “the Russian Navy has three divisions with the Ball missile system: two in the Black Sea Fleet and one in the Pacific Fleet.”

© bmpd

So from 2014 to the present, the Balov division was absent in the Caspian Flotilla. And the current "second division" is actually the only one.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

What is there to argue, just let everyone know that we also have it on the Caspian Sea, well, just in case, because we can afford it.

[Old26]

Quote: 1976AG

In this case, DBK is also not needed. Armed groups will be destroyed by other means and DBK will not help here.

And you can find out what will be destroyed? I will repeat myself. Iran has three naval bases there. Missile boats, incl. and small displacement EMNIP are building or have already built a corvette and a frigate (destroyer). Or will we use the all-conquering "Caliber" again?

Quote: marshes

Quote: Old26

Iran has missile boats in the Caspian. They are going to build frigates. Few?

The Iranians are rather stupid, they instructed quite a few of their banks at the banks in the Caspian, the east coast is generally hydrographically complex, and the western coast is not jelly closer to Azerbaijan.
Yes, the most inexperienced captains are Iranians, although everyone knows that they are from the IRGC, so the Iranian fleet is not scary, not living in the Shahs and the next 20 years. Those in the United States and Germany, France and Italy received education, now they are not, even in command.
One link of the Su-30 and the entire fleet will delight the fish.

Skillful or not skillful - the third question. By the way, these "inept" ones came with a courtesy visit to Astrakhan a couple of years ago. And to go up the Volga delta about 180 km, taking into account the variable hydrology - stupid there would have left their pennants
Iran has anti-aircraft missile systems on ships and on the coast. And you shouldn't think that we will roll them out with one left, that is, with one SU-30 unit. underestimating the enemy oh how bad it ends
And interesting to read. When it comes to a possible Iran-US conflict, you read, the Iranian armed forces will ensure the destruction of dofig US aircraft and provide hundreds and thousands of coffins.
As for the question of a possible conflict with us, we will melt their entire fleet with a link of "dryers" ...
Sorry, but for the "hap" you from me minus

Quote: Alexey RA

So from 2014 to the present, the Balov division was absent in the Caspian Flotilla. And the current "second division" is actually the only one.

Alexey. The chronology of the "Ball" complex was approximately as follows. In the last decade, a separate experimental battery of the Bal complex was deployed in the Caspian Sea, which was then transformed into the 46th separate coastal missile division. After the redeployment of the 46th division from the 11th brigade to the 15th brigade in the Crimea, there really was nothing. But in 2016, the 847th separate coastal missile division "Ball" was redeployed from Astrakhan to Kaspiysk. so there will still be a new one SECOND

Quote: 1976AG

That's when they build (if they have time) then you can deploy the complexes, this is done very quickly, unlike the construction of ships. And deploying DBK against what appears in years to ... is unreasonable. Frigates are not boats for you; they are not built in a year.

Sure. You can always re-roll and most importantly very quickly. To transfer the division to an open field and the whole short. Don't you think that for more than 3 dozen vehicles of the complex, you will still need a technical position for storing automotive equipment, and a technical position for storing missiles? Or we will, as always, act according to the principle "go hunting - feed the dogs." And you can't stop the threat in advance ???

[DPN]

And from whom ?, the Caspian is a lake around peaceful states.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: 1976AG

Suppose ships of another state are engaged in illegal fishing in our waters. Will you use the "Ball" against them? And the ships will perform the task accurately. That's the whole difference.

To ask questions, especially if they are .... the business is not grateful. Try to answer them yourself, it will be more productive.
The Caspian is washing the shores of countries that are eager to look at NATO. What, memory has changed. forgot how our brothers arranged NATO bases? So, this is a warning, nothing more. The weapon is defensive, but effective in the conditions of this lake. And the vast so far, any creep ....

[Old26]

Quote: DPN

And from whom ?, the Caspian is a lake around peaceful states.

Wow. Iran turns out to be peaceful. What strengthens its fleet in the Caspian Sea is this peaceful state?