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In the Chinese media: Gaza missile attack completely paralyzes Israeli defense

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Chinese reporters are interested in the performance indicators of the Israeli anti-aircraft missile defense system. In particular, attention is drawn to a new exchange of strikes between Israel and the Gaza Strip, during which no less than 300 different munitions, including unguided missiles, were fired at Israeli territory.


The military section of the Sohu Chinese information portal reports that the Israeli Defense Forces command stated the anti-ballistic shield’s effectiveness parameters: "at least 90%."

From the material:

The Hamas group in recent days has fired several hundred rockets, mines and artillery shells over Israel. A massive missile attack completely paralyzed the defense of Israel.

The material of the Chinese portal says that the Israeli military itself has to admit the problems in intercepting ammunition issued by the Palestinian side.

From the article:

The Israeli military admitted that a missile fired from Gaza took 15-20 seconds to reach Israel, and the detection and interception of Israeli missile defense took about 30 seconds. Missiles are not effective at intercepting at short distances.

The author of the article says that in addition to the time of missile arrival, Hamas has another important advantage: “Their missile can cost about a thousand dollars or several thousand - maximum, but the cost of Israeli interceptor missiles is about 100 thousand dollars.”
The Sohu indicates that a total of missiles and other ammunition flew towards Israel with short interruptions for approximately 17-18 hours. It is alleged that at least 8 Israelis were injured.

From the material:

Israel uses its Iron Dome, David Sling, and American air defense and missile defense systems. But all of them ended up helpless against a massive missile attack. They could not intercept Palestinian missiles if they were fired at close range.


The material itself in the Chinese media has an eloquent title: "Israel exposed its Achilles heel."

It should be noted that in Israel itself no sane person has ever stated that the probability of interception is 100 percent. In this case, there can only be one conclusion: in such a situation, without a political and diplomatic component, Israel will not be able to fully protect itself, it will not be possible to protect its citizens and will hardly succeed, even if the number of its anti-aircraft defense systems is multiplied.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 15 November 2019 08: 31
    +7
    What will our Jewish comrades say?
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 15 November 2019 08: 37
      +22
      Here either a full-fledged war with the destruction of the enemy near its borders, which would be the worst option, or you need to negotiate and seek a compromise on the situation, there is no third. But it’s obvious that Israel is in no hurry to negotiate and solve the problem. Nothing will protect if they shoot, you can say point blank.
      1. cniza
        cniza 15 November 2019 09: 06
        +13
        The war will not solve anything, only agree ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 15 November 2019 10: 13
          +5
          Negotiating with terrorists is not a smart option. Anyway, it will come out sideways.

          There is simply not enough political will. The cessation of shelling can only be achieved by full control of the territory.
          1. Volga073
            Volga073 15 November 2019 10: 26
            +22
            Terrorists are Israel.
            1. cniza
              cniza 15 November 2019 13: 04
              +4
              Quote: Spade
              Negotiating with terrorists is not a smart option. Anyway, it will come out sideways.


              No terrorists need to be destroyed, but negotiated with the rest.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 15 November 2019 21: 14
                +4
                No one will negotiate with Israel. They will perceive the attempt on his part as slack and increase the pressure. For more than three generations, he instilled hatred for himself. And technology is moving forward, and for those who hate it more than they love their lives, more and more perfect weapons appear.
                There is simply no way out of this situation. More precisely, but too bloody.
          2. Alexander Petrov1
            Alexander Petrov1 15 November 2019 12: 35
            +1
            Here you have the advertised and very expensive holey iron dome ...
          3. Dimonovets
            Dimonovets 25 January 2020 21: 58
            0
            In this case, a terrorist is a territorial entity calling itself Israel. When they liberate the occupied Palestinian lands, then, I think, the shelling will stop ...
        2. Bukhalov
          Bukhalov 15 November 2019 12: 33
          +2
          I have only two questions for you: with whom to agree and what? There are several dozen terrorist armed groups there. Which are supported by completely different geopolitical players. And there are analogues of gangs a la Old Man Makhno. Yes, and what to talk about? For example, I can’t imagine. Maybe you specify? Type options: about the world, do not offer. They are akin to the well-known: about everything good, against everything bad. Name specifically how you see the agreement? What should Israel do and what the other side in the form of dozens of conflicting groups. Please do not forget Iran, CA, Turkey, USA, Russia, Kurds, who also play on this geopolitical site and have completely different interests.
          1. TokarevT
            TokarevT 16 November 2019 13: 09
            -2
            Why negotiate something? We are building a new springboard for ourselves on the site of the Khazar Khaganate!
            Half of the work has already been done. Now superfluous Ukrainians will die, we will write down the remaining Shabesh-goys, of course, with careful control of their numbers.
            And let us live!
            Here, nobody will shoot at us: Ukrainians are Shabes, everything is clear with them, and the Russians have our government.
            Russians (Russia) if anything comes up here for us here, and even Russian, and not our blood! Go bad!
            And Israel will remain a promised, but risky outpost, to breathe in the wonderful air of our glorious history and continue to live comfortably on the new promised land, which we have rightfully owned since the formation of the Great Khazar Kaganate.
            1. Leonid Dymov
              Leonid Dymov 16 November 2019 22: 23
              0
              The Khazar Kaganate is a huge territory, including Northern Kazakhstan, Lower Volga, Kalmykia, Dagestan, and South-East of Ukraine. There were few Jews there. But the Jews were related to the Khazar nobility. The dynasty of Russian tsars was German, but this did not prevent Russia from being Russian. The tsarist government pushed the Jews beyond the Pale of Settlement to the former Khazar Kaganate, but Jews sought to large cities in Russia. Jews began to settle in large numbers in the South-East of Ukraine during the years of Soviet rule, when industry began to develop there. Jews are law-abiding, enterprising people. They can settle in Russia, anywhere, including in the Crimea. Now nobody needs the South-East of Ukraine. It will be normal if the Jews conquer it.
              1. TokarevT
                TokarevT 17 November 2019 09: 42
                0
                Yes, yes, the extra territories will absolutely not hurt us.
                I completely agree with you: we are a great, enterprising and law-abiding people.
                If North Kazakhstan, Lower Volga, Dagestan and Kalmykia are subsequently added to the territories of Ukraine, this will be our Great and crushing success, which, no doubt, will be sung in Books for posterity.
                The territory of Israel, in this case, will be simply an unsinkable and sacred summer cottage in comparison with our New Kingdom, not to mention the difference in security!
                I am completely for the fact that we Jews freely settled in Russia anywhere under the guise of enterprise and law-abidingness; we have repeatedly hanged such noodles on the ears of Russians.
                Thanks to such colonization, we can add in the future these territories to our new Kingdom.
          2. Leonid Anatolevich
            Leonid Anatolevich 8 December 2019 18: 42
            0
            They have no interests - there is nothing interesting at all. Interests, I understand, are the eastern coast of the Euphrates, where the worst expectations of 4 countries can come true. Arabs, you can understand, because of stinginess insist on Palestinian realities, that's all
        3. Invoce
          Invoce 15 November 2019 13: 29
          +10
          Quote: cniza
          The war will not solve anything, only agree ...

          Yes, then let them agree? Israel acts as a Scarecrow for Arab countries in the Middle East. From Israel, the United States arms the Emirates, acts as an intermediary .... for warranty oil sales for only $ ... When creating the state of Israel, evaluate its original territory ... And compare with what is now ... Terrorists in Africa are terrorists, they need to be destroyed and not negotiated, but the intifada started from scratch, and if the United States did not interfere and donate money to Israel in the amount of 0,5 of the annual Israeli GDP, there would be no conflict .. This is my opinion, someone disagrees with him, someone agrees, but I'm sure , now the screeching will begin and they will begin to minus .... Of course, he touched on the "sacred", something that you can't even think about, and even more so laughing I'm ready
          1. Bukhalov
            Bukhalov 15 November 2019 16: 39
            0
            Quote: Invoce
            Quote: cniza
            The war will not solve anything, only agree ...
            and if the United States did not intervene and did not give Israel money in the amount of 0,5 of annual Israeli GDPlaughing

            Israel's annual GDP is $ 350 billion. You authoritatively declare that the United States, "throws" Israel $ 175 billion a year (!!!). You do not need to be negative, but sorry. After all, still so young, and already ...
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 16 November 2019 02: 34
        +3
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Here either a full-fledged war with the destruction of the enemy near its borders, which would be the worst option, or you need to negotiate and seek a compromise on the situation, there is no third. But it’s obvious that Israel is in no hurry to negotiate and solve the problem. Nothing will protect if they shoot, you can say point blank.

        they blink with Bandera and kiss on the gums ... all the more so with the Palestinians !! wassat lol lol lol
      3. zenion
        zenion 16 November 2019 15: 48
        0
        The fact is, to be in prison, or to ask your neighbors to shell Israel, until it is recognized as the most honest man on the planet.
      4. Geo⁣
        Geo⁣ 17 November 2019 04: 26
        0
        If the task is to ensure the safety of the population, then for starters you can simply stop causing fire on the heads of your own citizens. Surprisingly simple to be true? In the previous discussion on this topic, the local ones, of adequate ones, painted in paints by whom, how and why this shelling was caused.
        I don’t know how to give a link to a specific post, and therefore - quote:
        Quote: Maz
        Ah, well, listen. And then Aron and the professor are shy ... In Israel, the government crisis has come to a standstill. Three stubborn liberman, nitanyagu and hans. We could not agree to create a government. And in any way, despite the fact that the elections were about two months ago. The country has split. Some for Bibi, others for the liar of the liver, and others for Ganz. To unite the country, the people and the loafers in the Knesset, a small but victorious war is needed. And the best adversary is the foul Islamic jihad. Mnogoghodovka played and prepared. The day before the militant was eliminated, exercises were held to evacuate the population from places nearby to the gas. Respectively treated the population. Then the day before they thundered a tough Arab guy, pointwise, but they nailed his wife too, which they are very proud of! Naturally, Islamic jihad in the morning smacked even the telaviv. In a panic to all the workers, the Gushdan population was canceled, kindergartens and schools closed, people went into hiding in mamads and miklats, they all sent home in the morning to wait for the shelling at their place of residence. At 9 in the morning, the trains were canceled. Missiles flew mainly to Tel Aviv. The population was hiding who managed where. Roads are empty, abandoned cars at intersections. I went into the staircase - all the neighbors on the stairs with the children. Siren in full. Over ayalon rockets. . Well, as usual. But the nation with fright immediately rallied. An external enemy was immediately found, and the people forgot sho was a madhouse of power. From fear, brains work quickly and in the right direction by the elite. Then a new leader emerged - Benet was already glued to him the tag of the savior of the nation and Tel Aviv, and the residents of Sderot and Ashkelon were a bargaining chip in the political game. And the worse they feel during the shelling, the better it is for the saviors of the fatherland. I won’t be surprised if, as a result of this combo, Benet becomes the prime minister or Bibi lasts in the wake of the emotions of the electorate from protecting the Israeli homeland. Against this background, Russophobian emissions are very successful. Type Russian cornet almost killed our boys and girls. In general, a normal Israeli life. Pop-ups on a massive scale. So that they think not with their brains, but with headlines on the Internet, TV, radio and newspapers.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 15 November 2019 09: 11
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      What will our Jewish comrades say?

      Let them write to health. Literary creativity does not bother anyone.
      1. Professor
        Professor 15 November 2019 09: 16
        -2
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Pessimist22
        What will our Jewish comrades say?

        Let them write to health. Literary creativity does not bother anyone.

        Exactly. After the phrase: "The Hamas group has fired several hundred rockets, mines and artillery shells at Israel in recent days." Hamas did not fire at all, and no one fired artillery shells.

        Where is the Messenger of Mordovia? The Chinese replaced him?
        1. basmach
          basmach 15 November 2019 11: 04
          +13
          If you didn’t read, why leave a comment?
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 15 November 2019 11: 13
            +9
            Quote: basmach
            If you didn’t read, why leave a comment?

            Well, by this (commentary) they show that it’s kind of crap! So to speak, they postpone this point of view, imposing it on an inexperienced reader. tongue
            1. Professor
              Professor 15 November 2019 14: 06
              -3
              Quote: neri73-r
              Quote: basmach
              If you didn’t read, why leave a comment?

              Well, by this (commentary) they show that it’s kind of crap! So to speak, they postpone this point of view, imposing it on an inexperienced reader. tongue

              Well yes. the sophisticated reader himself knows that Hamas sat on the sidelines and only watched. This is the point of view I "impose".
        2. valeryb
          valeryb 15 November 2019 17: 54
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          no one fired artillery shells.
          And mines, they are not artillery shells?
          Where is the Messenger of Mordovia? The Chinese replaced him?
          Absolutely. The Chinese have taken care of it.
          1. Professor
            Professor 15 November 2019 18: 04
            -2
            The Hamas group in recent days fired several hundred rockets in Israel, mines and artillery shells.
            1. valeryb
              valeryb 15 November 2019 18: 15
              0
              Quote: Professor
              The Hamas group in recent days has fired several hundred rockets, mines and artillery shells over Israel.
              Release then they let out, and where did it fall?
              1. Professor
                Professor 15 November 2019 18: 20
                +1
                Quote: valeryb
                Quote: Professor
                The Hamas group in recent days has fired several hundred rockets, mines and artillery shells over Israel.
                Release then they let out, and where did it fall?

        3. MMX
          MMX 15 November 2019 19: 49
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: Pessimist22
          What will our Jewish comrades say?

          Let them write to health. Literary creativity does not bother anyone.

          Exactly. After the phrase: "The Hamas group has fired several hundred rockets, mines and artillery shells at Israel in recent days." Hamas did not fire at all, and no one fired artillery shells.

          Where is the Messenger of Mordovia? The Chinese replaced him?


          We’ll write it down - nobody shot. Everything is quiet and peaceful.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 15 November 2019 09: 30
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Let them write to health. Literary creativity does not bother anyone.

        It seems like that. Efficiency too low. Fortunately, Palestinian missiles are extremely primitive and have no guidance-guidance systems. Well, with the modern development of technology, assembling a system with GPS navigation and a steering device is not too expensive. God forbid, they will have a normal manager who can establish cheap production of such heads? This, combined with the cheapness of the RS itself, will greatly load the air defense system. Since they will no longer fly through wastelands. Scary...
        1. Bukhalov
          Bukhalov 15 November 2019 12: 39
          -1
          Remember Egypt’s exemplary air defense on the west bank of the Suez Canal in 1973. The flaps were transferred by Israeli tanks. And the tiny Gaza is not the endless sands of Sinai. Yes, and air defense in Gaza is not observed. So it is possible from above and below, and from the sea and from land. Cartilizing in half. But ours all play in humanity. We should learn by looking at the brothers of the Russians.
          1. MMX
            MMX 15 November 2019 19: 50
            +1
            Quote: Bukhalov
            Remember Egypt’s exemplary air defense on the west bank of the Suez Canal in 1973. The flaps were transferred by Israeli tanks. And the tiny Gaza is not the endless sands of Sinai. Yes, and air defense in Gaza is not observed. So it is possible from above and below, and from the sea and from land. Cartilizing in half.


            In wet dreams, this is what happens.
          2. Geo⁣
            Geo⁣ 17 November 2019 04: 39
            0
            Quote: Bukhalov
            But ours all play humanity

            Is it after relishing the murder of a woman (someone's wife there)?
        2. boss
          boss 15 November 2019 14: 05
          0
          Well, yes, well, yes, the manager of the Palestinians.
          then exactly kirdyk their missile program.
          only here, managers and journalists steer rockets.
          in DEVELOPED countries, there are scientists, designers, industrialists.
          and in our center of khrunnichestvo, the managers have already not been launched for construction by high-rise buildings.
          a decrease in both the total number of launches and their competitiveness, the lack of prospects, breakthroughs and a clear update program.
          only accidents increased.
          and, yes, still the cost, so in numbers - the progress is certain ...
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 16 November 2019 02: 43
            +1
            Quote: patron
            in DEVELOPED countries

            not at Americans accidentally ??? what then tell the Saudis about their development in the field of air defense / missile defense !!! wink wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
        3. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 15 November 2019 16: 36
          +1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          . Fortunately, Palestinian missiles are extremely primitive and have no guidance-guidance systems.

          Unfortunately. And then one could try to influence the control system. Israel is in zugzwang, and needs a world war no less than the United States. Even with the risk of being destroyed, it’s still better than the current situation in which the Jews drove themselves, not least with the help of well-known Jewish generosity.
          It was a beautiful strategy. Arab "terrorists" milk the Arab world. Hand over money to the fighters against Israeli aggression! And then we'll release the guts! A nice cover for the racketeering, allows both sides of the process to maintain self-respect (which is ideal for this type of activity).
          Israeli officials are shaking the rest of the world by squeezing more and more out of the world's Jews and sympathizers (of whom there were many). Help Israel, who is always fighting for the "holy city of Jerusalem"! And from the Germans the eternal indemnity is still ... It turned out well financially both for the Arabs and the Jews.
          Only now the world has changed. Strong. This Panama fell down, and very quickly. Of course, various kinds of "domes" can shoot down missiles. One, two. But this is not yet suitable for repelling hundreds of practically simultaneous launches, and will not be suitable for a long time. And what about these shelling? It's a trifle.
          Over the years, the dear state of Israel has managed to trample the feet of the mass of forces on the planet so that its prospects are definitely sad. Damn, wherever you spit, everyone wants a big batch ...
        4. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 20: 36
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          . God forbid, they will have a normal manager

          The problem is that these managers have a very short life.
        5. Aleksandre
          Aleksandre 15 November 2019 23: 03
          +1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Well, with the modern development of technology, assembling a system with GPS navigation and a steering device is not too expensive.

          It is not too costly to assemble a simple and unprotected one, but in this case, as if the Hamas missiles did not fly home then, hehe. Or do you think that Israeli engineers are not able to create an electronic warfare system? )
      3. Geo⁣
        Geo⁣ 17 November 2019 04: 29
        -1
        Quote: Aaron Zawi

        Let them write to health. Literary creativity does not bother anyone.

        Mein Kampf?
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 15 November 2019 09: 34
      +21
      Quote: Pessimist22
      What will our Jewish comrades say?

      What they say ... they will say: Azochen Way and our tanks are fast! And our pilots of courage are full! Fearless tankers are smashing the enemy! Forward to the Homeland, Jewish Eagles!
      1. Pytnik
        Pytnik 15 November 2019 11: 57
        +2
        Here is the offset laughing good good good
      2. Alex Nevsky
        Alex Nevsky 15 November 2019 14: 06
        +1
        laughing laughing laughing Eaglets ha ha ha ................. ((((
      3. Nikolai Korovin
        Nikolai Korovin 15 November 2019 23: 47
        0
        Wow The animals trembled - they fainted!
    4. Sitearvi
      Sitearvi 15 November 2019 09: 35
      -5
      Do not worry, they will agree
    5. Volga073
      Volga073 15 November 2019 10: 29
      +3
      Some Arabs shoot at other Arabs.
      And to whom are they comrades?
    6. Ros 56
      Ros 56 15 November 2019 11: 15
      +6
      And what can they say when the Dome is tired? request fellow lol
    7. Invoce
      Invoce 15 November 2019 13: 32
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      What will they say our Jewish comrades?

      laughing Yours Jewish comrades are working hard to ensure that everything continues further laughing
    8. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 15: 58
      +2
      Quote: Pessimist22
      What will our Jewish comrades say?

      And they will say the following
      LIES IT AND IN CHINA LIES
      And now from what was
      The two-day confrontation between the IDF and the Islamic Jihad, which began on November 12, will go down in history as the "Black Belt". About this on Thursday, November 14, IDF spokesman, Brigadier General Khidai Zilberman, said Commenting on the ceasefire agreement that has entered into force.
      During the 2-day confrontation over Israel, Gaza was released 450 missiles - 90% of shells aimed at settlements, were successfully intercepted by the Iron Dome. In general, 60% of the rockets exploded in the open.
      A NOW MATH
      An 281 rocket fell in an open area and the iron dome did not work on them
      450-270 = 180 of 180 hit public places of 18 rocket
      According to the MADA Ambulance Service, in two days of confrontation medical assistance required 77 Israeli citizens, 3 of them received shrapnel wounds.

      The economic damage from escalation has not yet been calculated, but it is estimated that he reaches hundreds of millions shekels, including losses from forced downtime of enterprises and lost profits of small and medium enterprises.
      International public opinion generally solidified with Israel,] supporting its right to self-defense and condemning rocket attacks on civilians. T

      THIS IS THE TRUTH
      Once again I remind MINUSES I DON'T WORRY ready for discussion but not a lie!
      1. Maz
        Maz 15 November 2019 16: 32
        +4
        Quote: Pessimist22
        What will our Jewish comrades say?

        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        Quote: Pessimist22
        What will our Jewish comrades say?

        And they will say the following
        LIES IT AND IN CHINA LIES
        And now from what was
        The two-day confrontation between the IDF and the Islamic Jihad, which began on November 12, will go down in history as the "Black Belt". About this on Thursday, November 14, IDF spokesman, Brigadier General Khidai Zilberman, said Commenting on the ceasefire agreement that has entered into force.
        During the 2-day confrontation over Israel, Gaza was released 450 missiles - 90% of shells aimed at settlements, were successfully intercepted by the Iron Dome. In general, 60% of the rockets exploded in the open.
        A NOW MATH
        An 281 rocket fell in an open area and the iron dome did not work on them
        450-270 = 180 of 180 hit public places of 18 rocket
        According to the MADA Ambulance Service, in two days of confrontation medical assistance required 77 Israeli citizens, 3 of them received shrapnel wounds.

        The economic damage from escalation has not yet been calculated, but it is estimated that he reaches hundreds of millions shekels, including losses from forced downtime of enterprises and lost profits of small and medium enterprises.
        International public opinion generally solidified with Israel,] supporting its right to self-defense and condemning rocket attacks on civilians. T

        THIS IS THE TRUTH
        Once again I remind MINUSES I DON'T WORRY ready for discussion but not a lie!

        After my daughter explained to me how Israeli media are fooling me regarding the Iron Dome Rockets, and their effectiveness, when she was sitting on the air control panel at the Air Force base near Ashdod. And during the Hamas attack, there was a stream of missiles, and not this brook from jihad, THEN I will neither believe you Gusin nor your press nonsense. So sho minus and get from me personally, for trying to shove your point of view and mislead colleagues. These statements for Israeli citizens have one purpose - to calm the frightened and bring down the heat in Sderot, Ashkelon and the areas adjacent to the gas. And also to protect the ass bureaucrats of the Israeli Defense Ministry from criticizing the population, which already has a place to be. Good luck to your pilots of the Israeli Luftwaffe in the fight against rockets ...
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 19: 18
          -1
          Quote: Maz
          After my daughter explained to me how Israeli media fool me

          This is your daughter who saw what she saw and if she lied to you, she deceived ONLY YOU.
          Quote: Maz
          On Thursday, November 14, IDF spokesman said, Brigadier General Hydei Zilberman,

          And if the IDF spokesman [/ b], a brigadier general, deceived, your daughter, FINISHING THE SERVICE, could SELL this information for GOOD money in the media and this general would go for interrogations along with Bibi.
          The applicant was not for understatement, by the way it was revealed by the media, the former IDF spokesman was fired, maybe your daughter told you about this.
          But it was in the media.
          And I know this, and your daughter, but they don’t know here and you are constantly trying to LIE over and over again.
          Quote: Maz
          So sho minus and get from me personally,

          I can disappoint you, I probably have them -25000 for me MAIN THAN EXCEPT FALSE, DEFENDING IS AND THE TRUTH
          And the fact that you could not build your life in this country and blame the country for this, then King Shlomo said: "EVERYTHING PASSES AND IT WILL PASS"
          You will not be, but Israel WAS, IS, AND WILL BE!
          SHABBAT SHALOM!
          1. Nikolai Korovin
            Nikolai Korovin 16 November 2019 00: 27
            0
            This is called typical. hmm. gratitude (here the main thing is not to put unnecessary points, otherwise they will take a simple ellipsis for the word, say, "share").
            Dear Vitaly Gusin! Israel just did not exist. That's how it was not! As Titus accidentally burnt the temple (it seems to be not on purpose - a pure coincidence during hand-to-hand fighting - the cedar burns with a whistle as it disperses!) - well, there was none. And Russia just was and is. This is not to say that life in it was very well arranged, but some comrades tried to make it even worse. That is, of course, it would not be better at all, in accordance with the general paradigm, but somehow it did not work out a little. And his ox, and his donkey, and all his cattle - no, something still remained for divorce.
            And here comrade Stalin was not at a loss and organized the state of Israel - (there was, of course, the back thought that it would be nice again for someone to walk in the desert for a correction - warm, dry, healthy climate) - and protected him from the first encroachments of American imperialism. And the Arab aggressors.
            But miscalculated comrade Stalin underestimated the power of world capital and the desire of the people of Israel to accumulate. And began providing peaceful navigation along the Suez Canal, etc. pieces. With the cooling of the country, which returned the promised land to the chosen people. And the neglected Israel is swelling and swelling, and the Arab aggressors are shrinking and shrinking. (Here it would be necessary to put an ellipsis, but somehow again scary).
            It reminds me of something. From the history of the USSR-Russia of the last decades. About Russian aggression in the Black and Baltic Seas. But I have no faith in the person who calls Russia "this country", let him call at least 150 brigadier generals as witnesses and add 40 couriers alone. So, as Alexander Fedorovich used to say - "I don't believe!" But Toko he put it - it was then "And he robbed the people of the Egyptians."
            And the minus - well, what's the minus? True, of course, more expensive. Just don’t write the word "truth" in such big capital letters that you have the "Pravda" newspaper in its natural form.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 16 November 2019 08: 28
              -1
              Quote: Nikolai Korovin
              That's how it was not

              And THAT WAS, IS AND WILL BE!
              Mark Twain;
              "If the statistics are correct, Jews make up no more than a percent of humanity. This suggests an almost invisible lump of stardust, lost in the bright light of the Milky Way. In fact, there should be no mention of Jews, but they make themselves felt, we have heard and continue to hear about them. They stand out among any nation, their place in the economy, their importance is immeasurably higher than the place and importance of any other equally small nation. Their share in the list of great names of the world scale in literature, science, art, music , financial activity, medicine, the latest discoveries is not proportional to the share of Jews among other nations, it is much larger and richer. They, the Jews, at all times - in a battle, in a battle with the whole world, and in this battle they can rely only on themselves, since no one will support them. And they are fighting for life and death, and they can be forgiven, no matter what means they use in this struggle. The Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians created world powers, the whole planet roaringly and noisily declared their power, then melted like smoke and died; the Greeks and Romans inherited their loud glory and also went into oblivion; other peoples arose, for a time they raised their flaming torch high, but it burned out, leaving only sparks, and sometimes they burned out. The Jews saw them all, and now they are the same as they have always been: for centuries they have not known decline or weakness; never, just as now, has their influence been weakened, their role in the life of the peoples among whom they lived, their energy, mobility and sharpness of mind has not diminished. Everything in the world is mortal, but not the Jews. Everyone, even the strongest, leaves - they stay. What is the secret of their immortality? "
              1. Nikolai Korovin
                Nikolai Korovin 16 November 2019 14: 22
                0
                I understood. Israel is the birthplace of elephants. And I thought - Russia! Sorry-s, sorry-s - was wrong. I take into account s.
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 16 November 2019 14: 25
                  0
                  Quote: Nikolai Korovin
                  Sorry-s, sorry-s - was wrong. I take into account s.

                  When a person admits his mistakes, this is a huge DONATION OF HIM, he continues to learn something new.
              2. meandr51
                meandr51 4 December 2019 17: 41
                0
                The fact that this is not a nationality, but a sect.
    9. Vitalii21
      Vitalii21 15 November 2019 16: 11
      +1
      Sell ​​the shell please, just we ourselves are not local! This is what the Jewish comrades will say!
    10. Maz
      Maz 15 November 2019 16: 14
      +3
      Quote: Pessimist22
      What will our Jewish comrades say?


      And the Jewish comrades, managed to smash an entire rocket of the iron dome in the gas, already in America screaming about this. pictures on twitter. Israel lost the Iron Dome
      3

      In the American edition of The Drive, in the photographs of the rocket part, they saw an active radar homing system and a non-contact fuse. It also notes that the loss of such weapons by Israel may contribute to the development of countermeasures against it.

      if this is true then the hands of the Israelites still grow from the bottom of the spine, like brains. sho is not news for me.


      https://twitter.com/Jtruzmah/status/1194885107267461120/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1194885107267461120&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Flenta.ru%2Fnews%2F2019%2F11%2F15%2Ftamir%2F
      In the comments on the tweet, users note that Russia and Iran would be happy to get such elements for themselves.
      After the loss of a rocket from David's sling, a very very characteristic event
      In November of this year, the Chinese portal Sina reported that an Israeli missile defense system David's Sling, which had received "minor damage", had hit the Russian side.
      and China and Iran are the biggest beneficiaries in this case if they reach out and buy this missile. And Israel Navrng itself is pleased with this event. Right now, the showdown will begin.
      https://lenta.ru/news/2019/11/15/tamir/
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 17: 19
        0
        Quote: Maz

        In the American edition of The Drive, in the photographs of the rocket part, they saw an active radar homing system and a non-contact fuse.

        TWEETER-SCHMITER
        link to the American edition of The Drive
        In the meantime, this is fake!
        Quote: Maz
        In November of this year, the Chinese portal Sina reported on getting to the Russian side received “Minor damage” missiles of the Israeli missile defense system David's Sling ("David's sling").

        I can agree with you FOUND, and once they found they handed over to Russia BUT SOMETHING WASTES.
        And further:
        “Minor damage”
        Does a supersonic rocket at a rocket speed (7.5M, i.e., about 2.5 km / s) fall from an altitude of 5-10 km with minor damage?
        About the wreckage of YES and the photo that you presented, it is possible that it is.
        The capabilities of this missile are very large and with a few fragments it is simply not possible to restore its effect.
        The Sling of David complex is not divided into batteries, they are dispersed throughout the country and have a single command post and fire units, each of which includes a radar and several launchers. Software plays a huge role in the functioning of all this. all elements of the system.
        This is a single SYSTEM and if some parts of one from one part of the entire system have got, it's just NOTHING!
        Calm down on the defense of Israel, this will not affect.
        This is the fate of any air defense missile launched toward enemy territory.
        The rocket fell on the Golan Heights a kilometer from the border if it were critical, as it was with the special forces in Gaza. NO ONE WOULD NEAR CLOSE.
        Sip a beer and relax!
        SHABBAT SHALOM!
        1. Maz
          Maz 15 November 2019 19: 17
          +1
          Shabbat SALOM. Calm yourself. Look how you’re fooling around. All passed, the rocket is already in Iran. and this auction has already been announced - who will give more and leave.
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 19: 25
            -2
            Quote: Maz
            All passed, the rocket is already in Iran.

            All look for LOKHOV
            Russia does not fall into this alignment of yours.
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      2. However, dear
        However, dear 16 November 2019 09: 26
        +2
        If it were so easy to copy technologies, they would already drive in Russia in their Mercedes, would fly in their Boeing, with smartphones and computers of their own production and so on ...
        1. However, dear
          However, dear 16 November 2019 10: 33
          +1
          [Quote] [/ quote]
          If it were so easy to copy technologies, they would already drive in Russia in their Mercedes, would fly in their Boeing, with smartphones and computers of their own production and so on ...
          I mean, if something has fallen there, the point is how to find a faulty mobile phone.
  2. Labrador
    Labrador 15 November 2019 08: 32
    +17
    completely paralyzed the defense of Israel

    Does Israel itself know about this?
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 15 November 2019 08: 39
      +5
      About 450 rockets have been fired towards Israel from the Gaza Strip since the start of the last flare-up in about 50 hours, Israel Defense Forces spokesman Yonatan Conricus said. The spokesman noted that the level of interception of the Iron Dome missile defense system was about 90%. And not a word about paralysis. Well done, what can I say.
      1. Anton Yu
        Anton Yu 15 November 2019 09: 17
        +7
        if he had admitted this, he would not have stayed at his post for long.
        1. boss
          boss 15 November 2019 14: 06
          +3
          but we don’t recognize a lot of things, and they serve nothing ...
      2. Anton Yu
        Anton Yu 15 November 2019 09: 21
        +11
        Americans also in 1991 declared 90% of Iraqi missiles shot down, and then an investigation by Congress found that no more than 10%
    2. olegactor
      olegactor 15 November 2019 10: 30
      +1
      Well, if you hide in holes under the sirens .... then you can probably get it
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 16: 40
        0
        Quote: olegactor
        Well, if you hide in holes under the sirens .... then you can probably get it

        And you cannot even dream of such "holes"!
        1. panov_panov
          panov_panov 15 November 2019 17: 29
          0
          And if it flies from above, but does not explode nearby ???
        2. Maz
          Maz 15 November 2019 19: 28
          +1
          Oh, you’re a thug bandit. This hole, and here is shown the apartment is not this is a house with a garden outside the window !, costs at least two shekel lemons, divide by three and a half = almost six hundred thousand dollars. It's minimum. For such towers, you can buy ten apartments in Russia in a normal regional-type city and live happily ever after. The family pays the loan a lifetime, and after death. Apartments with Mamad - a secure room. small rooms. Well, our three-room apartments are not an example better. There is no balcony - religion forbids! there is no heating in winter. you can’t stick wallpaper on the walls - they will fall off. You can buy a cottage in Israel for ten thousand dollars with eight hundred figs, the price will bite when you familiarize yourself. So he, Gusin, is simply trying to boast of nothing. Mamad is a room with steel doors closing windows, if any. So do not let the dust go in vain ... the bulk of the houses in Israel are old. The new ones cost so much sho oivawa, the Jews are already groaning
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 15 November 2019 20: 25
            -1
            Quote: Maz
            Oh, you’re a thug bandit. This hole, and here is shown the apartment is not this is a house with a garden outside the window !, costs at least two shekel lemons, divide by three and a half = almost six hundred thousand dollars. It's minimum. For such towers, you can buy ten apartments in Russia in a normal regional-type city and live happily ever after. The family pays the loan a lifetime, and after death. Apartments with Mamad - a secure room. small rooms. Well, our three-room apartments are not an example better. There is no balcony - religion forbids! there is no heating in winter. you can’t stick wallpaper on the walls - they will fall off. You can buy a cottage in Israel for ten thousand dollars with eight hundred figs, the price will bite when you familiarize yourself. So he, Gusin, is simply trying to boast of nothing. Mamad is a room with steel doors closing windows, if any. So do not let the dust go in vain ... the bulk of the houses in Israel are old. The new ones cost so much sho oivawa, the Jews are already groaning

            And with all this, you live among us, although no one holds you. So either you are a hypocrite or you are a Russophobe. So to hate Russia in order to live among the hated Jews, it must be a terrible Russophobe.
            1. Maz
              Maz 15 November 2019 23: 30
              +1
              I don’t like when you are lying brazenly, that's how Gusin is now, it’s nice to put the world champions in this sport in their place. Well, about hate, you also bent your identity, among you there are normal ones. it's nice to talk with them. This is the case. That and the daughter here. While I will use you, Aronchik as a tool for pulling money, for the rest you are weak.
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 16 November 2019 07: 57
                +1
                Quote: Maz
                I don’t like when you are lying brazenly, that's how Gusin is now, it’s nice to put the world champions in this sport in their place. Well, about hate, you also bent your identity, among you there are normal ones. it's nice to talk with them. This is the case. That and the daughter here. While I will use you, Aronchik as a tool for pulling money, for the rest you are weak.

                T / e you allow us to exploit ourselves. tongue Come on. Work for the good of Israel.
            2. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 16 November 2019 08: 57
              +2
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              And with all this, you live among us, although no one holds you.

              What kind of flawed logic? Can you live where you are "kept"? Prison? Concentration camp? "Iron curtain"? And what if a person, for some reason, wants (he needs ...) or is forced (because of relatives)? So I also ask, what kind of tilt Akhedzhakova and M. Efremov stick out in Russia? For me, it would be better if they weren't in Russia, but I can't do anything! So why are you so "implacable" as Bin Laden?
              !
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 16 November 2019 09: 10
                +2
                Quote: Nikolaevich I

                What kind of flawed logic? Can you live where you are "kept"? Prison? Concentration camp? "Iron curtain"? And what if a person, for some reason, wants (he needs ...) or is forced (because of relatives)? So I also ask, what kind of tilt Akhedzhakova and M. Efremov stick out in Russia? For me, it would be better if they weren't in Russia, but I can't do anything! So why are you so "implacable" as Bin Laden?
                !

                These artists were born in the Russian Federation and consider it their country. They may not like your modern power, but they treat the country and its people very well. Then, as Maza just shakes with hatred of Israel and the Jews. It's hard to live like that. Why bother? The daughter is taken in an armful, property is on sale and you return to Russia. He seems to have enough money. Well so he says. In general, Israel is a rather heavy state. Not everyone takes root.
                1. Nikolaevich I
                  Nikolaevich I 16 November 2019 15: 48
                  +2
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  They may not like your modern power, but at the same time they treat the country and its people very well

                  This is where you "got caught"! The point is that many of these "individuals" (one might say, the majority ...) express their hatred not only for the authorities, but also for the country, for the people! To be convinced of this, it is enough to collect all their "sayings" ... At the "everyday" level, many of the people want to be "kicked" out of the country ... but "officially" the government (which they do not like so much ...) does not suit such "repressions"! Therefore, in the "everyday" relation, you are no different from the Russian philistines, who call to expel from Russia the same ... Akhedzhakova, Efremov, Serebryakov ...
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 21: 41
            0
            Quote: Maz
            Oh, you’re a thug bandit. This hole, and here is shown the apartment is not a house with a garden outside the window!

            I will not let you cheat.
            This is a house built before the 1990 year, from the 1990 year all the houses are built with a security room.
            This is a model, as you can in an OLD apartment, to convert one of the rooms.
            Quote: Maz
            shown apartment no this is a house with a garden outside the window !,

            Yes, if it is in the center of the Negev desert, there is always a garden more or less outside the window.
            Quote: Maz
            worth at least two shekel lemons,

            In Tel Aviv, yes.
            And on the periphery is half cheaper.
            Quote: Maz
            For such towers you can buy ten apartments in Russia

            And you earn such towers in Russia.
            Quote: Maz
            The family pays the loan a lifetime, and after death.

            Me, my friends and acquaintances of 15 years ago repaid loans and live enjoy a decent life and are not going to die.
            Quote: Maz
            Apartments with Mamad - a secure room. small rooms. Well, our three-room apartments are not an example better. There is no balcony - religion forbids! there is no heating in winter. you can’t stick wallpaper on the walls -

            Security rooms are standard from 10-14 meters.
            In religious areas, balconies are not built vertically, one above one and offset
            I HAVE A BALCONY 23 MET.
            In Jerusalem and other areas where there is a large difference in day and night temperatures, there is heating.
            I live in the center of the country last winter several times turned on air conditioners for heat.
            You forgot to write that those who receive the social allowance receive extra money for heating.
            Quote: Maz
            Mamad is a room with steel doors closing windows, if any.

            The windows are windows, and the steel is a protective part from fragments, which closes only when there is an indication.
            Quote: Maz
            . most of the houses in Israel are old. The new ones cost so much sho oivawa, the Jews groan already

            Yes, there are many old houses that are now strengthening or even demolishing and building new ones.
            Yes, new and old houses are expensive.
            BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE EMPTY HOUSES ARE.
            Yes, the Jews groan, and when they did not moan?
            EVEN YOU LEARNED, NOT ONLY MOANING BUT AND DECEPE!
            1. Maz
              Maz 15 November 2019 23: 50
              0
              You sho! Peripherals are cheaper? firstly not much, secondly there is no work on the periphery, you forgot about it. Mashkant paid those who arrived before 90hody and immediately bought an apartment, and then prices rose sharply. a three-room apartment less than two lemons is not worth it. and it needs to be furnished. And then there is Arnona - a land tax. those who receive social programs save on everything. In my surroundings, at home all the time, grandmothers and grandparents walk near the garbage bins and collect bottles and cans. Balconies are not built in secular areas. Only recently have solid appeared and then not everywhere. and how many houses strengthen demolish and build new, a long time did not go through the streets? drop in at bat Yam for the construction of the century - a hotel on the beach. I just arrived at 99 so still and there is a skeleton. And wild boars go looking for someone to fuck, especially those who live in houses without elevators, and they are immeasurable like Khrushchev in Russia. and most importantly loot, loot, loot. People in the second place. But the worst thing is ideology. Oh, it’s not in vain that your brother cut Moses when he came down from the mountain, and he cut well without pity. But I didn’t go see a lesson in proc. The most expensive travel business in Israel. because how greedy. They still can’t reach the 4 million as it was before the 2011 year. you look how you howled when the drug addict in Russia was closed! we will not fly Aeroflot airplanes - we squealed like a garbage can. And what, not a month has passed and stopped, because the service on Aeroflot airplanes is better, economy class passengers are fed there and tickets are cheaper ... cheap show-offs are your everything. I forgot about the monuments and sculpture with art, well, next time I will walk.
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 16: 16
      0
      Quote: Labrador
      Does Israel itself know about this?

  3. Nycomed
    Nycomed 15 November 2019 08: 32
    -11%
    "Israel has bared its Achilles heel."
    The Hamas barmaley will play out to the point that Israel will completely bare its "biceps." And then I do not envy the barmale ... crying
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 15 November 2019 08: 38
      +1
      Well, yes.
      What kind of missiles are they if "more than 300" and "7 people were wounded." From water pipes and black powder?
      1. Skay
        Skay 15 November 2019 09: 09
        +9
        What kind of missiles are they if "more than 300" and "7 people were wounded."

        Why kill people? There all the subtlety is that:
        Their missile can cost about a thousand dollars or several thousand - the maximum, but the cost of Israeli interceptor missiles is about 100 thousand dollars

        They hit the most painful Jewish organ - the pocket.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 15 November 2019 09: 31
          -1
          Wow way.
          Knowing that the enemy has much stronger weapons, that this enemy is ready to kill everyone without exception, give just an excuse, to sacrifice his population for the sake of a blow to your pocket?
          300 pieces of rockets can only cause such damage if they are made of g and sticks.
          Or if they were not at all.
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 15 November 2019 09: 55
          +6
          Quote: Skay
          What kind of missiles are they if "more than 300" and "7 people were wounded."

          Why kill people? There all the subtlety is that:
          Their missile can cost about a thousand dollars or several thousand - the maximum, but the cost of Israeli interceptor missiles is about 100 thousand dollars

          They hit the most painful Jewish organ - the pocket.

          Reading your posts, I recall V.S. Vysotsky.

          ... Nothing, I will create comfort for them - 
          Lively, bastard, exchange an apartment. 
          They have money - they don’t peck chickens,
          And we have - not enough for vodka! 
        3. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 15 November 2019 16: 22
          0
          Quote: Skay
          They hit the most painful Jewish organ - the pocket.

          You do not know, but the Arabs know.
          The most precious thing for the Jews is LIFE, each person.
          She is priceless!
      2. Volga073
        Volga073 15 November 2019 10: 28
        +1
        This is New Year's crackers!
    2. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn 15 November 2019 08: 55
      +5
      Quote: Nycomed
      The Hamas barmaley will play out to the point that Israel will completely bare its "biceps."

      How old is this stupid fuss in the sandbox?
      1. zlinn
        zlinn 15 November 2019 20: 03
        -2
        It seems like an eternity, but in fact 14 years
    3. Polymer
      Polymer 15 November 2019 10: 16
      +5
      Quote: Nycomed
      Hamas's barmaley will play out to the point that Israel will completely bare its "biceps"

      And other parts of the body?
    4. kotvov
      kotvov 15 November 2019 18: 23
      +1
      that Israel will completely bare its "biceps." And then I don’t envy the barmale ... ,,
      Lebanon, recall?
      1. zlinn
        zlinn 15 November 2019 20: 07
        -2
        here, recall almost 14 years of complete silence, this has not happened before
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 16 November 2019 11: 41
          0
          that is, you don’t remember how it ended for Israel?
          1. zlinn
            zlinn 16 November 2019 12: 34
            -2
            a what actually? 110 victims is certainly a tragedy. but in general, before that. and even when the IDF was sitting there, there were more victims, and the silence that came was unprecedented, so I don’t understand what you mean
            1. kotvov
              kotvov 17 November 2019 18: 05
              0
              Well, it’s your business, pleasant or not pleasant, only Israel has acted as aggressors, and in 80 the losses were significant.
  4. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 15 November 2019 08: 35
    +5
    Egean invaders do not give up!
    1. Bukhalov
      Bukhalov 15 November 2019 12: 53
      -4
      The word "Jewish" is written with "r". Or do you have a "hechi defect?" This is the first thing. And what did we occupy - the most Jewish occupiers? Really curious. There is not a single "occupier" in the Gaza Strip, and also on the western bank of the Jordan. Sinai returned to Egypt. Jordanian, Lebanese lands in full chocolate and sovereignty. There was a case, after the aggression of the Arabs in 1973, the valiant IDF approached Damascus at a distance of a howitzer shot, and stopped a hundred kilometers from Cairo at the request of the American imperialists. Once across Beirut, the Jews rushed through with a breeze. Our paratroopers paid a friendly visit to Uganda ...
      So Israel gave everything, as unnecessary, concluded peace treaties. And here you are with the opening of the "occupation". Please clarify what was occupied? Very interesting .
      1. 7,62x54
        7,62x54 15 November 2019 12: 56
        +1
        There was no Holocaust, these are fictions of the Zionists.
        1. However, dear
          However, dear 17 November 2019 07: 09
          -1
          Do you ignorantly affirm this or out of spiteful anti-Semitism? If out of ignorance, then your ignorance is easy to correct. Read about the Holocaust on the same Wikipedia. With the filing of the Germans, 6 million Jews were destroyed - 55% of the population. And if from anti-Semitic beliefs, then Jews will always be glad to see you in the sight of the machine gun. So who are you: ignoramus or anti-Semite?
          1. 7,62x54
            7,62x54 17 November 2019 08: 43
            0
            The state of Israel was created with the direct support of the Gestapo in 33-38. Palestinians were already driven from their land. Return the Golan, then we'll talk.
            1. However, dear
              However, dear 17 November 2019 09: 04
              0
              Where does this amazing knowledge about the formation of Israel come from? Share the source. And about the Golan, well, are there few disputed territories in the world? The Japanese, there’s already 70 + years the Kuril Islands want. Speaking, just right. Sometimes you can agree.
            2. However, dear
              However, dear 18 November 2019 00: 19
              0
              Well, what, dear ignoramus or vile anti-Semite, nothing to say? laughing
      2. Maz
        Maz 15 November 2019 19: 35
        -1
        Yeah, uncle Brezhnev warned the United States that if the Jews did not move away from Damascus, then one rocket would be enough to wipe the Jewish misunderstanding from the face of the Mediterranean and the United States would not help, they had their own shirt closer to their bodies ... As Americans found out, they were so saddled that the dust was in the trunk.
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 15 November 2019 21: 55
          +1
          Brezhnev, in those years, was still quite an adequate person and did not carry such nonsense.
  5. Livonetc
    Livonetc 15 November 2019 08: 35
    +4
    Technical systems cannot protect against terrorist attacks by 100%.
    Counteraction requires systematic work in all directions.
    Israel provides such work.
    Unless, in terms of negotiating with all parties, it may not be finalized for some reason.
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  7. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 15 November 2019 08: 38
    +5
    I remember in the years of my youth there was such a comic expression "the last 325th Chinese warning ...". Now, apparently, it's time to introduce "the next 325th Chinese assumption ..."
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 15 November 2019 08: 39
    +6
    The military section of the Sohu Chinese information portal reports that the Israeli Defense Forces command stated the anti-ballistic shield’s effectiveness parameters: "at least 90%."

    The problem of a massive missile strike is difficult to solve, to a large extent on the fact that cheap means of attack require significant counteraction / destruction for effective counteraction / destruction.
    They do not, until at least, set up objects with laser, artillery installations! Expensive or low efficiency, it is not clear.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 15 November 2019 08: 51
      +7
      Victor, hi! soldier
      Do you have any impression that the Chinese media tackled the United States and its allies? recourse
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 November 2019 09: 09
        +3
        Hello pasha soldier
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Do you have any impression that the Chinese media tackled the United States and its allies?

        The Chinese have fun to the fullest. Explore, compare, nudge all the significant ones, those who are worth noting!
        Autumn aggravation, maybe.
        Since they do EVERYTHING with approval and on orders from above, we can assume that there is a "playful" mood ...
        It happens.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 15 November 2019 09: 11
          +4
          Quote: rocket757
          Since they do EVERYTHING with approval and on orders from above, we can assume that there is a "playful" mood ...

          The reaction of mattresses and others like them will be interesting ... yes
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 15 November 2019 09: 45
            +2
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            The reaction of mattresses and others like them will be interesting ...

            There are in the world "played out" too much!
            With striped ones it's even more interesting! They really have only the most, the most striped prisident! The main thing is where. Look at the rest ... that they have everything and everyone, very gloomy!
            So let's see who is the funniest red-haired clown in their "big top" ???
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 15 November 2019 09: 49
              +4
              Quote: rocket757
              So let's see who is the funniest red-haired clown in their "big top" ???

              And then! There, the first part of the performance did not end there. But there will be at least the second. So stock up on beer and related products. lol
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 15 November 2019 09: 57
                +1
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                There, the first part of the performance did not end there. But there will be at least the second. So stock up on beer and related products.

                Exactly, exactly! There will be no way to miss such a performance drinks
  9. Sentinel-vs
    Sentinel-vs 15 November 2019 08: 39
    +6
    And if Hamas hits a swarm of drones, how did the barmalei launch at our base in Syria? Will Israel's air defense master multiple low-flying low-epr targets?
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 15 November 2019 09: 33
      -2
      No, it won’t master if the UAV is enough. As with rockets.
    2. However, dear
      However, dear 16 November 2019 11: 26
      +2
      Will not master. All this fireworks from the LCD is so far there are practically no victims and destruction. And if a little more, then tanks and aviation slightly intensify the work on "places of decision-making", and again "peace, friendship" until the next boil.
  10. knn54
    knn54 15 November 2019 08: 40
    +5
    STRANGE.But the Chinese didn't say (not sure?). that they have analogues (kupola.praschi, patriota), and cheaper and more efficient. Then why this so-called "analytics"?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 15 November 2019 09: 14
      +3
      Quote: knn54
      STRANGE.But the Chinese didn't say (not sure?). that they have analogues (kupola.praschi, patriota), and cheaper and more efficient. Then why this so-called "analytics"?

      And the Chinese themselves can direct their ROY at anyone! And it will be a ROY, to all swarms a ROY!
      In fact, they have a lot of great things. If they collect everything in one place, they will cover the territory of Israel, for example, like a bull sheep.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 15 November 2019 09: 36
        0
        Not even necessarily an ordered swarm. Let's say such UAVs are produced from an airplane, for example, 1000 pieces. Each one bears a weight of 500 grams. And they are all "charged" to detonate in the maximum proximity to an object, for example, a radar, specifically its antenna. One in 1000 is enough to disable the radar. One.
        Such flying plastic garbage, the Chinese can stamp cars.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 15 November 2019 09: 48
          +1
          Quote: Mestny
          Such flying plastic garbage, the Chinese can stamp cars.

          In the performance of CHINA, there will be a wagon and another cart trailer!
          They can!
  11. Svetlana
    Svetlana 15 November 2019 08: 41
    +6
    What is defense paralysis? Its complete absence? So they bring down these rackets .. Paralysis where? What is it like?
  12. shubin
    shubin 15 November 2019 08: 42
    +1
    As for missiles, what anti-missiles, the effectiveness is about the same.
  13. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 15 November 2019 08: 43
    +3
    And there is no such situation that ground-based air defense / or missile defense / can guaranteedly repel massive strikes.
    During the battle for Moscow, the Red Army combined the actions of its ground batteries with the actions of fighters and strikes against enemy airfields. If Israel wants to guarantee itself acceptable protection against enemy missiles / and shells? /, Then sooner or later it will have to conduct a ground operation in order to expand the security buffer zone and increase the reaction time for its complexes. And since they have everything in the region "compact", then this is not an easy task.
    1. Igor K
      Igor K 15 November 2019 08: 49
      +2
      The ground operation is the loss of personnel and the condemnation of the world community, father-in-law reputational losses.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 15 November 2019 08: 54
        +2
        That is why I call this operation a "daunting task." If Hamas and the IDF met in an open field, the outcome is clear. And since they live there in the same house and make rockets in the basement, the humanitarian issue comes first.
  14. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 15 November 2019 08: 55
    +5
    100% protection simply does not exist in the world, especially at short distances to the target. Despite the fact that Israel is ponting, in the event of a mass strike, its air defense / missile defense will do little.
  15. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 November 2019 08: 58
    +3
    The Chinese have settled well. Scanning Semitic bickering in the Middle East, chewing popcorn, modernizing technology. They can also afford to criticize the "gladiators". laughing
  16. ender
    ender 15 November 2019 09: 05
    +1
    those. on "less than 300 different ammunition" there were several wounded - and this is called a completely paralyzed defense?
    and yes, are the Chinese sure they have more effective remedies?
  17. Dikson
    Dikson 15 November 2019 09: 20
    +2
    I remember that one of our commanders said that the best remedy for air raids is our tanks on enemy airfields ... Here the situation is similar ... and this problem is not only for the Israelis .. The multimillion-dollar costs of air defense systems are essentially built on the philosophy of the past wars - bomb carriers will arrive, and we knock them down with missiles ... But it turned out that instead of expensive and super-sophisticated bomb carriers, handicraft penny UAVs and rockets made of rusty drainpipes fly in ... wings for ammunition than losing your aircraft from anti-aircraft missiles ... No air defense system will be able to cope with a massive attack on guarded positions if the number of targets is many times greater than the number of missiles in a salvo .. - while reloading, - "goodies" already can be delivered ..
  18. Air force
    Air force 15 November 2019 09: 35
    +4
    It sounds so cool. 200-300-400 missiles were fired, 90% intercepted. On the one hand, Hamas is shooting some kind of "firecrackers" with a samopal in general, thereby helping Israel to show the super duper effectiveness of its air defense. Plus, it seems to me that the non-intercepted missiles that simply did not fly or fell into the desert area Israel records as successfully intercepted, a kind of additional air defense advertising. I don't know how much interceptor missiles cost exactly, but if 100 thousand. dollars then a Hamasev can simply launch blanks in the form of missiles, thereby causing financial losses.
    1. Nenie Lynn
      Nenie Lynn 15 November 2019 10: 46
      -2
      Quote: Air Force
      It sounds so cool. 200-300-400 missiles were fired, 90% intercepted. On the one hand, Hamas is shooting some kind of firecrackers

      Do not carry nonsense, Hamas is bullying hail completely for itself, and Iranian fajers.
      1. Air force
        Air force 15 November 2019 14: 44
        +1
        And where in this article it is written, Fajr 3 -240mm or Fajr 5-330mm. and also the Grad? Israel was repelled by such a weak attack with tactical missiles. It says 300 different ammunition, so I assume that the "dumpers" were launched. Where are the fragments of the Fajars or Grads, maybe Hamas and bullets the Fajars, but this news is not specifically written about them.
  19. Operator
    Operator 15 November 2019 09: 41
    0
    "In Israel itself, no sane person has ever stated that the probability of interception is 100 percent.", - so those Israelis who drown on VO for 100% interception, are those, cuckoo? laughing
    1. Nenie Lynn
      Nenie Lynn 15 November 2019 10: 49
      0
      Quote: Operator
      so those Israelis who drown on VO for 100% interception, are those, cuckoo?

      come on, give a quote to an Israeli who spoke of 100500% effectiveness. laughing
      1. Operator
        Operator 15 November 2019 10: 54
        +1
        But sho, have they stopped drowning? laughing

        Let's talk about this after the next salvo + layered missile attack of the Palestinians.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 15 November 2019 11: 21
      0
      Quote: Operator
      so those Israelis who drown on VO for 100% interception, are those, cuckoo?

      To be fair. A reference to such statements is possible? Neither from Aron, nor from "The Professor" nor from other representatives of Israel at VO, I have never heard any statements about 100% interception.
      1. Operator
        Operator 15 November 2019 11: 26
        +3
        I heard - exactly until the Israelis began to poke their nose in the photo / video of the destruction in the development of Israeli settlements on the border with the Gaza Strip.
        1. Professor
          Professor 15 November 2019 14: 12
          +1
          Quote: Operator
          I heard

          ... the operator lied without blinking an eye. Do not get used to it. He knows what mobile launcher ICBM Jericho looks like.

          PS
          And 100% happens only with Warrant Officer Lopatov. Others have an idea of ​​probability theory.
          1. Operator
            Operator 15 November 2019 15: 13
            +1
            "Sticking into a puddle ... the main thing is to chirp fun" (C) bully

            Burak-120 missile launched by Palestinians on 14 on November 2019

            1. Professor
              Professor 15 November 2019 17: 08
              0
              Apples and uncle in Kiev. laughing

              PS
              Paint the main rocket in camouflage so that it doesn’t light up in the launcher. You, the operator, are worthy of your idols of the Philistines.
  20. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 15 November 2019 10: 23
    -3
    There are two options for MB: either Chinese journalists at Ekaterina Andreeva’s internship took place on Channel 1, or 300 launches were conducted by interns - bombers at barmalei.
  21. Volga073
    Volga073 15 November 2019 10: 33
    0
    Palestinian Arabs - a pipe with gunpowder (from matches), a maximum of $ 20
    Jewish Arabs - American duper missiles for $ 100.000
    1. ender
      ender 15 November 2019 11: 05
      +2
      and human life is included in these calculations?
  22. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 November 2019 10: 35
    +6
    "Israel has bared its Achilles heel."
    If we objectively approach this, then with such a massive attack, and even with a flight time of several tens of seconds, it is certainly difficult to repel it. But I want to say something else. Visitors to the site from Israel always aggressively, with a grin and sarcasm criticize Russia and its weapons, but this is only about their country, so immediately "present a photo", "the media are openly lying", "look at yourself", etc., etc. ... Maybe it is still worth dying indiscriminately critical ardor in relation to our country and more objectively treat their troubles?
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 15 November 2019 12: 04
      +2
      rotmistr60 (Gennady) Today, 10: 35 ... Maybe all the same it is worth dying indiscriminately critical fervor towards our country and more objective about their troubles?
      I guess it's useless to appeal to "Visitors to the site from Israel".
  23. Operator
    Operator 15 November 2019 11: 08
    +2
    Quote: rotmistr60
    with such a massive attack

    So far, there has not been a massive attack - the extreme shelling of Israel by Palestinians lasted 17 hours.

    I hope the next time the Palestinians will meet in one minute in order to overload the Israeli air defense. Plus, equipping the PC part with dipole reflectors made of aluminum foil (NURS) and radar radios (URS).
    1. Bukhalov
      Bukhalov 15 November 2019 13: 16
      -1
      Quote: Operator
      Quote: rotmistr60
      with such a massive attack

      So far, there has not been a massive attack - the extreme shelling of Israel by Palestinians lasted 17 hours.

      I hope the next time the Palestinians will meet in one minute in order to overload the Israeli air defense. Plus, equipping the PC part with dipole reflectors made of aluminum foil (NURS) and radar radios (URS).

      The area of ​​the Gaza Strip is 365 square km. Air defense is absent. The implementation of your option is possible only with the complete inaction of Israel. The missile attack on Israel lasted 17 hours, precisely for this good reason. For more - the gut is thin. Then Islamic Jihad requested mercy. Israel's capabilities are not comparable to those of the Gaza Strip. Even if you get an aerosol spray can, or even two, according to your prescription.
      1. Operator
        Operator 15 November 2019 13: 31
        0
        Check out the flying time of "aerosol cans"


        To achieve maximum effect, the Palestinians only need to carry out a massive missile attack in the morning / evening at the beginning / end of the working day, when most of the Israeli occupiers are on the streets of colonial settlements.
  24. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 15 November 2019 11: 24
    +2
    The Iron Dome has a dead zone.
    Missiles and mortar mines fired at 7 km or less system
    does not have time to intercept. There is nothing new here.
    Palestinians shell rockets of such super-small Kasam radius
    towns and kibbutzim that are close to Gaza.
  25. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 November 2019 11: 58
    -1
    In the Chinese media: Gaza missile attack completely paralyzes Israeli defense
    Even the Chinese understand this !!! bully
  26. gggdddsssccc
    gggdddsssccc 15 November 2019 14: 08
    0
    complete nonsense, if only because the operation was against the "Islamic Jihad", the LCD worked well, there were no deaths, there are only slightly wounded, there were several hits in the house, that's all.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 15 November 2019 18: 34
      0
      there are no dead, there are only lightly wounded, there were several hits in the house, that’s all,
      Well, thank God. Do you think that most visitors to the site really want you to lose? Live yourself, but let others live.
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  28. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 15 November 2019 17: 29
    0
    Probably it would be worthwhile to somehow come to an agreement with the "terrorists" Otherwise, this conflict will last forever. But they will not be able to make concessions, it will not be convenient for the whole world that they caved in to the Arabs and they still won.
  29. svoit
    svoit 15 November 2019 19: 06
    +4
    Quote: rotmistr60
    more objective about their troubles?

    Of course, everyone has troubles and there is no limit to perfection, but one cannot but give credit to Israel, although with considerable external help he is quite confident on his feet, and this help does not stupidly eat up. But in fact, you can only find fault formally, if according to the technical specifications the efficiency is more than 90%, but in fact 90%, the system could not cope, but just a little bit.

    Quote: frowning fox
    Probably it would be worthwhile to somehow agree with the "terrorists"

    What is curious is that it is Israel that is much closer to the recognition of the Palestinian state than the Palestinians - Israeli. The complete destruction of Israel is the maximum compromise that the Palestinians can still make.
  30. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 16 November 2019 01: 20
    +4
    It smacks of anti-Semitism.
  31. gorenina91
    gorenina91 16 November 2019 11: 02
    0
    -Yes, all this air defense of Israel ... is a matter of time ...
    - Just as it is impossible to protect crops from hail, so this part of the territory called Israel cannot be protected from a massive attack by elementary primitive rockets ...
    “Because all of these missiles is all that is required ...” is that they only reach Israel ...
    -In general, these primitive rockets should be collected taking into account their shot down in the air over the territory., I.e. foresee only that the debris of the rocket will already fall on the territory of Israel ... -And taking into account the huge number of flown and shot down missiles and this will be enough to cause fires and destruction ...
    -And Israel will not get away from this ... -In order to somehow secure this piece of land, Israel needs to make its borders at least a thousand kilometers around the perimeter ... -All that Israel has been granted is what captured the Syrian Dutch heights ... -and only ... -But is Syria itself so dangerous for Israel ...- Syria, on the contrary ... is the most harmless in this regard ... -And Iran is gaining power; Saudi Arabia; UAE and so on ... - this is the real danger to Israel ...
    -Already today Israel is afraid of Iran with might and main ..- earlier it bombed Iran ao almost immediately, but today it has already stopped and pulled its tail ... -And what will happen tomorrow, when Iran gets stronger and gains economic and military power ... -First the enemy, or rather, the first object (Israel, and so for Iran is enemy No. 1) for a real military confrontation for Iran will be Israel ...
    1. However, dear
      However, dear 16 November 2019 21: 29
      +1
      Of course, no missile defense system can withstand a massive raid. Gaza is not militarily an enemy of Israel. Those are not aiming at 30050000 missiles, mostly self-made, these in response "angrily" slapped at empty buildings, "workshops for the production" of those very missiles (sheds) and wastelands from drones, aircraft and tanks and test LCDs. When gas missiles do accidentally hit, the IDF fires at more sensitive targets, and it all ends with another truce. Why does Israel have such a tactic with a weak adversary? They hope to come to an agreement. Another thing is Iran, whose constitution says to destroy Israel. Israel is rightly afraid and, of course, will work out this threat, because it wants to live. If diplomacy does not help defuse the situation, Israel will suffer, but Iran will be plunged into the stone age. And apart from Iran, there is no external threat to Israel.
      1. However, dear
        However, dear 16 November 2019 22: 01
        0
        "In order to somehow secure this piece of land, Israel needs to move its borders at least a thousand kilometers along the entire perimeter."


        - No, we must intelligibly make it clear to the enemy that the damage will not be acceptable. So it was in the past. Israel won all the wars, despite the massive military assistance of the USSR to its enemies. The removal of borders per 1000 km does not greatly increase safety when there are missiles flying into the window.
  32. Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy 16 November 2019 18: 01
    0
    Quote: cniza
    The war will not solve anything, only agree ...

    As long as I can remember as much and fight
    1. However, dear
      However, dear 17 November 2019 07: 18
      +1
      With Egypt, Jordan fought. Now the world. Agreed.
  33. NBV
    NBV 16 November 2019 18: 04
    +2
    17 - 18 hours of shelling and only 8 injured !!! And some pledged to call it a failure of air defense ?!
  34. Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov 16 November 2019 21: 59
    0
    Russia has long entered the Middle East and will destroy the Gordian Knot, trying to reconcile Syria, Iran, and Israel.
  35. mvmptzna
    mvmptzna 19 November 2019 11: 31
    0
    Tufa is everything, including the Chinese.
    In the event of a rocket getting into the house, in addition to direct damage, the state pays for a million from shekels a million or more.
    These pots teach Jews how to count money. smile
  36. duchy
    duchy 5 December 2019 09: 06
    +1
    In order for the sons of Israel to live in peace, I can give one piece of advice - Go back to the borders that you were identified during the formation of the state, free the occupied territories from your neighbors and live in peace.
  37. Shuttle
    Shuttle 13 December 2019 07: 33
    0
    In my opinion, it would be cheaper to conduct a census of Gaza and gradually assimilate it to Israel. In Israel itself, the Arabs feel quite fine too.
    Let them build instead of checkpoints schools for Arab women and kindergartens. It won’t work right away. But with time it is necessary.