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Putin on the situation for Ukraine: We need to seek happiness not overseas, but negotiate with neighbors

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The Russian president, who is visiting Brazil at the BRICS summit, commented on the situation with the expiration of the gas sale and transit agreement with Ukraine. According to Vladimir Putin, the Russian Federation is ready to conclude a new agreement with Kiev.


Recall that Russia offers Ukraine to conclude a short-term contract (for example, for a period of 1 year), but Ukraine, continuing to assert that it has not purchased gas from Russia for a long time, insists on a long-term contract (at least 5 years).

According to Vladimir Putin, in this regard, there remains a risk of the cessation of Russian gas supplies to European consumers along the “Ukrainian route”.

President of Russia:

Ukraine itself has undertaken to translate its legislation into line with European. Let them do it, we are ready for this. Only not everything depends on us. Therefore, the risk of termination of transit (gas) exists.


Also, Vladimir Putin noted that the situation in this regard is aggravated by new claims of Naftogaz in relation to Gazprom.

Some time ago, Gazprom invited the Ukrainian company to “nullify” financial claims, but Naftogaz refused, continuing to declare Gazprom’s unimaginable “debts” in 14, or even 22 billion dollars.

The contract expires on December 31 2019 of the year.

Putin about the situation for Ukraine:
It is necessary not to seek happiness across the ocean, but to negotiate with your neighbors.
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  1. den3080
    den3080 15 November 2019 06: 16 New
    -19
    And myself !! Broadcast from Brazil !! From overseas !! (this is probably the reaction of the pots will be)
    smile
    1. wt100
      wt100 15 November 2019 06: 43 New
      +5
      Where is the logic, from where to broadcast ??
      The main point, but the essence of hearing hi
      1. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 15 November 2019 07: 51 New
        +9
        What a pain in the neck for us, let them buy from anyone they want on the side of exorbitant prices. They don’t want to compromise, and the flag is in their hands.
      2. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 15 November 2019 09: 15 New
        -2
        And the point is that in both Ukraine and Russia, the oligarchy is most afraid of sanctions from overseas. Ukraine is simply confident that “overseas” will really want to help it in the fight against Gazprom. And this confidence is given to her by the decisions of the Stockholm Arbitration and the threat of American sanctions against SP-2. Why should Ukraine come to terms with the same "servant" if their common "master" sympathizes with them more in this conflict?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 09: 19 New
          +2
          Quote: Greg Miller
          Why should Ukraine agree with the same "servant"

          Man, who is that "servant" there? And at the same time - who do you have there

          Quote: Greg Miller
          ... their common "master"

          That's purely for understanding yes
          1. Tamparu
            Tamparu 15 November 2019 10: 46 New
            -2
            The elite of Russia and Ukraine! That is who is the servant! Well, and since this elite rules our countries, therefore, us, we, indirectly, are also servants! Perhaps rude, but true.
            With respect... hi
            1. Vladimir16
              Vladimir16 15 November 2019 11: 42 New
              -3
              Quote: TampaRU
              we, indirectly, are also servants!

              What is in your head? request
              1. Tamparu
                Tamparu 15 November 2019 11: 57 New
                +4
                Everything is fine in my head. Just an ordinary logical chain! Tear her, prove the opposite ..
                With respect.. hi
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 15 November 2019 09: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: Greg Miller
          Ukraine is simply confident that “overseas” will really want to help it in the fight against Gazprom.

          Lilac little hopeless. Gazprom has an ally in the form of Michelson and Novatek. Even the Yankees buy it LNG
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 15 November 2019 10: 10 New
            +3
            Quote: Tusv
            Lilac little hopeless.

            hi
            Well, for Ruins, this is normal. So many years of "struggle" for a freebie with the weekly "notions" of dirty tricks, complaints and threats, and everything is empty. Zrada zradnaya.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 15 November 2019 11: 24 New
              +2
              Quote: Lelek
              Well, for Ruins, it's okay

              Right Lilac then on surzhik will not be able to pronounce, and even hopeless and even more so drinks
              There was one hope for Angela, so she gathered for retirement. And now, decent pensions in Europe are given out. Tokmo in Gazprom fellow
        3. Runoway
          Runoway 15 November 2019 10: 00 New
          +7
          SENSE IN THAT THERE IS NO UNIFIED COUNTRY AND NATIONAL IDEA !!!!!
          They will water us all over the world with shit, kill Russian people in eastern Ukraine in Odessa, and we will continue to be friends, seek compromises and negotiate!
          BECAUSE I WOULD BE SELLING ONLY (and not for the country, but for myself) !!!! While I am in power, while I am sitting on a pipe, BUY FOR HOW MUCH YOU WILL GET ON THE EXTERNAL MARKET, AND MAXIMUM ON THE DOMESTIC MARKET, as there is no alternative for the impoverished population (8tr pension and 5tr payment for central heating and hot water ...... .I have no words)
          And right now I turn on the tv tell me about sanctions and enemies in the west, well, well
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 15 November 2019 11: 15 New
            0
            Quote: Runoway
            SENSE IN THAT THERE IS NO UNIFIED COUNTRY AND NATIONAL IDEA !!!!!

            How is it not? Russia is the Continent. The rest of the peninsula and islands repeat
    2. Berkut24
      Berkut24 15 November 2019 10: 27 New
      +4
      And myself !! Broadcast from Brazil !!

      In Brazil, a club of the elite gathered, for whom is the future of the world. Why didn’t they invite Zelensky there?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 15 November 2019 11: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Berkut24
        Why didn’t they invite Zelensky there?

        This one is not Mishiko, who wants to hang out behind a fence and eat a tie. Mark vigil (most likely stupid vzd) :)
    3. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 15 November 2019 12: 06 New
      -2
      We must not seek happiness overseas, but agree with our Russian Army, we will explain to you how much a pound is worth ... smile
  2. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 15 November 2019 06: 16 New
    +12
    Well, about Ukraine and about gas, we have already snapped up. It’s time to understand once and for all that Ukraine has left Russia for the next 100 years.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 15 November 2019 06: 19 New
      +4
      but at least 200))) it doesn’t cancel elementary things, for example, that the markets of neighbors and markets do not understand where these are two big differences)
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2019 08: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: carstorm 11
        it doesn’t cancel elementary things such as that the markets of neighbors and markets do not understand where these are two big differences

        When the mare bit her bit, she rushes non-stop with foam at her mouth and sees nothing.
    2. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 15 November 2019 07: 48 New
      0
      Something you Vlad grabbed! A hundred years? God give them a year to survive!
      Asks will be part of Russia!
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 15 November 2019 08: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        Asks will be part of Russia!
        Just not the whole bunch - let the Russophobes cook in their cauldron. And close the border ...
      2. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 15 November 2019 08: 03 New
        +1
        The contract for gas transit through the territory of Ukraine expires on December 31, 2019. At the same time, on November 2, Naftogaz filed a new lawsuit against Gazprom in the Stockholm arbitration, and in September announced plans to demand $ 11 billion from Russia in the event of a transit interruption. Dagger began to be hunted with a blackmail.
        1. Avior
          Avior 15 November 2019 08: 14 New
          -1
          I think this is a common trick in negotiations, a resource that can be abandoned and the agreement can then be called a compromise.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 15 November 2019 11: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Spartanez300
          Dagger began to be hunted with a blackmail.

          Why did you start? This blackmail has not stopped since the collapse of the USSR
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2019 08: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        Something you Vlad grabbed! A hundred years? God give them a year to survive!

        I'm talking about if they suddenly survive. The question is whether Russia needs it with an admixture of Nazi fascists? You can ask, but will I take it?
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 15 November 2019 07: 53 New
      -13
      And the most annoying thing is that .. the "broadcaster" put a lot of effort into this, instead of negotiating with its neighbors.
      1. Waddimm
        Waddimm 15 November 2019 08: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        instead of negotiating with neighbors.

        It is only necessary to negotiate with those who are going to fulfill their obligations. Unfortunately, in our time, Twitter diplomacy is less and less.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 November 2019 09: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Waddimm
          It is only necessary to negotiate with those who are going to fulfill their obligations.

          You can negotiate only with adequate people with whom you can conduct business, but not with those who want to live at your expense and are constantly deceiving. And of course, with a topic that will have a normal society, without fascist loafers and gorlopans.
      2. YUG64
        YUG64 15 November 2019 09: 44 New
        +3
        If someone has chosen for himself the role of the six and defends not his own but overseas interests - you need to talk with the godfather .. It is useless with the six.
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 15 November 2019 10: 50 New
        +1
        If the neighbor is sick, always drunk, the fascist, to fence off him higher is much more correct.
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    5. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 15 November 2019 12: 15 New
      -1
      Well, it may come back unexpectedly if it starts to hobble in the Donbass and we will enter Kiev in a day ...
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 15 November 2019 14: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Petrov1
        we will enter Kiev in a day ...

        One already took Grozny a day by the Airborne Regiment.
        1. Alexander Petrov1
          Alexander Petrov1 16 November 2019 03: 57 New
          0
          Already not the Russian Airborne Forces, under Yeltsin, by the way, even then, Grozny was taken up with heavy losses, but then the country's leadership betrayed their dead soldiers and made a shameful peace with the terrorists and withdrew the troops, and then after 4 years they nearly lost Dagestan and again I had to take the city of Grozny and all of Chechnya.
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 27 November 2019 16: 31 New
            -2
            So the APU is no longer what it was at that time. And not even that in 2104 hi . Yes, and Ukraine is not Chechnya even once.
  3. RideMaster
    RideMaster 15 November 2019 06: 19 New
    +11
    What for us a strong Russophobian country at hand?
    I am for everything to turn off.
    1. den3080
      den3080 15 November 2019 06: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: RideMaster
      What for us a strong Russophobian country at hand?
      I am for everything to turn off.

      Oh well! Pull out the plug smile
      1. Lusis
        Lusis 15 November 2019 13: 12 New
        0
        Everything goes to this, with the Ukrainians themselves chopping and pulling everything out, Russia does not even need to do anything.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 15 November 2019 06: 37 New
      +10
      Yeah. And Putin immediately promised a 25% discount in the event of a direct contract ....
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 15 November 2019 07: 25 New
        0
        so what to do ... he likes "buns" to whom he can’t hand out later ... a generous soul ... just "mother Teresa" realize ...
        he himself had the whole environment with the elite, whom he had grown up in so many years of “slavery in the galley”, and for a long time found happiness beyond the hill ... and loot there ... and yachts with forks ... and wives with children ...
        and you, as the president of the country, can stop looking for recognition beyond the oceans ??? ...
        out in the native open spaces for you, "the field is not plowed" ... the vertical somehow doesn’t cope very well ... everyone steals and steals ... the other day they themselves frowned in surprise ...
        maybe, well, what for this abroad ??? ... let Lavrov and Zakharova work out their salary ...
        and you don’t want to finally make friends with your own people in 20 years, Mr. President ???? ....
        1. Den717
          Den717 15 November 2019 08: 28 New
          +8
          Quote: kepmor
          maybe, well, what for this abroad ??? ... let Lavrov and Zakharova work out their salary ...

          Or maybe you need to stop advising a person how to fulfill his duties, especially if you are not very versed in them. There, beyond this border, a summit took place, i.e. meeting of the first persons of the states, but not cleaners of office premises. After this meeting, the next one will be in Moscow, as The chairmanship passes to Russia. You apparently misunderstand which issues you can entrust to Zakharova, and which require the participation of the president. Here he must be friends with you indirectly through appropriate authorities. A janitor cannot represent a great country. Ministers are not always sent there. The rank is not the same. To understand this, you do not need to have seven spans .... you just need to turn on the head.
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 15 November 2019 08: 42 New
            +4
            Quote: Den717
            you just need to turn on your head
            So they will turn on their heads in the morning, and there’s a knocking shot: “put it on, put it on ...” request
            1. Den717
              Den717 15 November 2019 09: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: sniperino
              So they will turn on their heads in the morning, and there’s a knocking shot: “put it on, put it on ...”

              They knock this on everyone’s heads, only smart “doors” do not open, but think for themselves.
          2. RideMaster
            RideMaster 15 November 2019 09: 03 New
            -3
            This is another matter.
            Didn’t notice that we began to sell peacekeeping as a commodity?
            We’re all right.
            1. Den717
              Den717 15 November 2019 09: 36 New
              +2
              Quote: RideMaster
              Didn’t notice that we began to sell peacekeeping as a commodity?

              Do you think that selling war is more profitable and worthy. Today there is nobody else besides us ...
        2. Mestny
          Mestny 15 November 2019 08: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: kepmor
          and you don’t want to finally make friends with your own people in 20 years, Mr. President ???? ....

          What part of it?
          The level of support is still high, although it has slightly decreased.
          Internet fighters are still a small group.
          Agree with all the same will not work.
          So everything is as it should.
        3. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 09: 01 New
          +4
          Quote: kepmor
          ... yachts with forks ...

          The “pitchfork” was especially delivered. Thank. Write more yes

          Quote: kepmor
          and you don’t want to finally make friends with your own people in 20 years

          So we hasten to pour out the thought, we miss the words ... are you, or is it the “people” of this? I would be in the place of the President with you on the same field ... in the sense of "no" laughing
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 15 November 2019 09: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            The “pitchfork” was especially delivered.
            There was still a rake somewhere, if they did not dance.
        4. Romeo
          Romeo 15 November 2019 09: 23 New
          +3
          And to make friends with your people is how?
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      3. Svetlana
        Svetlana 15 November 2019 08: 12 New
        +9
        Quote: 210ox
        Yeah. And Putin immediately promised a 25% discount in the event of a direct contract ....

        This is politics. A policy where the enemy is publicly offered a path along which he will not go. And this is just the case.
        Modern krajina will not accept this discount. The hosts will not allow it. It is more profitable for owners to buy their gas. And for this, LNG terminals in Poland are already ready.
        Putin knows this very well and therefore offers a discount and a special benefit. Why 25% ?? Probably, somewhere here lies the border of discounts for which xoxls can and will agree. But is it necessary?
        But in the end there will be no transit through them. Ukraine and Poland, to the delight of America will begin to buy gas from them.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 09: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Svetlana
          This is politics

          A plus.
        2. Den717
          Den717 15 November 2019 09: 48 New
          -2
          Quote: Svetlana
          Why 25% ?? Probably, somewhere here lies the border of discounts for which xoxls can and will agree. But is it necessary?
          But in the end there will be no transit through them. Ukraine and Poland, to the delight of America will begin to buy gas from them.

          You yourself wrote the answer to yourself. This is a policy .... When the UkrGTS closes, everyone on the other side will have questions - who is to blame? It is advisable that the answers be in our favor. To do this, we must calmly and calmly propose everything we can do to preserve our interests in this matter. And our main interest is the implementation of supply volumes under existing contracts that do not allow us to present tangible claims for their non-compliance.
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 15 November 2019 10: 30 New
            +1
            Yes, I answered. But he answered not with the phrase that you brought, but with the one that comes immediately after this rhetorical question.
            1. Den717
              Den717 15 November 2019 10: 40 New
              0
              Quote: Svetlana
              Yes i answered

              I quote the phrase from the post, mainly so that it is clear to whom and what I answer, unlike you. You say "not that", is not that? Sometimes a controversy arises not in essence of the issue, but in connection with the unwillingness or inability to correctly and intelligibly express one’s thought.
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 15 November 2019 11: 17 New
            0
            Quote: Den717
            And our main interest is the implementation of supply volumes.
            I don’t know ... Probably, in my soul the manager is dozing, which sometimes wakes up and requires the banks to be disconnected from the Fed, to tighten the gas valve, to stop the export of titanium, etc. I tell him that everything will happen in due time, but by this time you need to be prepared, because it will not begin as an era of prosperity, but will come as an hour of trial. Are we as a society ready for it?
            1. Den717
              Den717 15 November 2019 11: 50 New
              0
              Quote: sniperino
              manager who sometimes wakes up and requires the banks to turn off the Fed, tighten the gas valve, stop the export of titanium, etc.

              This is exactly what our “overseas” partners want. So that we disconnect from all international relations and give up the conquered US markets. Disconnect, screw, stop sending titanium, etc. And what is the answer? The EU will receive a shortage of energy resources and an increase in the cost of industrial products, immediately begin to lose in the US market (Trump's blue dream), then all sorts of Mercedes siemens will leave Russia, etc., the service staff of the existing equipment will terminate the maintenance contracts and everything that has the service will be removed (remember the auxiliary compressors of Gazprom), then the Boeing and the watermelon will withdraw / not renew the certificates of airworthiness for all its products flying in the Russian Federation and for the Russian Federation. This is so, from the visible whipped up. Will it give you great pleasure? Benefit? In the current conditions, we cannot live separately from our neighbors, no matter how we strive for this. China, in theory, can. There are one and a half billion. For full authorship, we need three current populations in order to be able to draw a modern level in all areas of the civilization process in terms of labor resources.
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 15 November 2019 12: 04 New
                0
                Quote: Den717
                In the current conditions, we cannot live separately from our neighbors, no matter how we strive for this.
                We are unlikely to reach the full auto-race, but today we are doing what we can and should: we create network structures in the world that we can rely on while disconnecting from resources controlled by the enemy. Like with the internet.
                1. Den717
                  Den717 15 November 2019 12: 13 New
                  0
                  Quote: sniperino
                  We are unlikely to reach full autocracy,

                  That is precisely why the state, through its various bodies and institutions, is trying to maintain the necessary level of interaction with neighbors on the planet. We must understand the main thing, we, as citizens, individuals, still have the opportunity to break off all relations with the environment and move to another geographical point in order to build a new environment. The state cannot afford it, it is forced to try to interact even with those who do not want to think productively. For it is fate to live side by side with a neighbor.
                  1. sniperino
                    sniperino 15 November 2019 12: 31 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Den717
                    it's destiny to live side by side with a neighbor
                    I do not agree with you. Modern infrastructure allows you to live on the same staircase and not even know the name of your neighbor. Therefore, I am writing about the network. These used to be camps, but now competing networks are being built.
                    1. Den717
                      Den717 15 November 2019 12: 45 New
                      0
                      Quote: sniperino
                      Modern infrastructure allows you to live on the same staircase and not even know the name of your neighbor.

                      Do you consider it possible to live next to Ukraine and completely ignore its presence? Decipher your message in more detail. If not difficult.
                      1. sniperino
                        sniperino 15 November 2019 12: 58 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Den717
                        Do you consider it possible to live next to Ukraine and completely ignore its presence?
                        In no case, as we do not ignore the neighbor who floods us. But if, for example, Latvia or the same Ukraine flatly refuses to somehow communicate with us, how will our fate change? It is impossible to force them to good neighborliness as they force the world.
                2. sniperino
                  sniperino 15 November 2019 12: 15 New
                  0
                  The administration would check the auto-replace auto-car for autocracy: not in all cases this saves authors from writing or about authors, and sometimes vice versa
                3. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 15 November 2019 12: 23 New
                  +2
                  Quote: sniperino
                  disconnecting from resources controlled by the adversary. Like with the internet.

                  Cheburnet, felling, oak bark, bayar and plantain are our main bonds. good
    3. Avior
      Avior 15 November 2019 07: 59 New
      -4
      Everyone has already disabled
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 November 2019 09: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: RideMaster
      What for us a strong Russophobian country at hand?

      This is a good idea.
  4. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 15 November 2019 06: 22 New
    +9
    And about 3 billion debt of Ukraine for some reason they are silent for a long time. Will we write off?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 15 November 2019 06: 23 New
      0
      the courts. this is a long movie.
    2. Nycomed
      Nycomed 15 November 2019 06: 48 New
      +2
      It has long been written off, immediately, as issued. yes
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2019 09: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Nycomed
        It has long been written off, immediately, as issued

        Card debt, it’s sacred, well, Ukraine is not Africa (they don’t play cards there), it’s still Europe.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 November 2019 09: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Michael m
      And about 3 billion of debt of Ukraine for some reason they are silent for a long time.

      The question is just relevant.
  5. Masha
    Masha 15 November 2019 06: 27 New
    +6
    for a long time does not surprise Krajina, but ....
    Ukraine, continuing to assert that it has not been purchasing gas from Russia for a long time, insists on a long-term contract (at least 5 years).

    it's just sur some ... recourse
    1. Jerk
      Jerk 15 November 2019 07: 24 New
      +1
      It's just that there is mourning - "the puppy is dead, Ukraine." Drinking is evident, with a lot of grief
    2. Avior
      Avior 15 November 2019 08: 00 New
      -3
      The contract for transit, not for the purchase.
      1. Masha
        Masha 15 November 2019 08: 05 New
        +5
        Quote: Avior
        The contract for transit, not for the purchase.

        oh, you might think, they themselves stand on the sidelines, look at the transit from the side ... and whatever the handles are heated ... do not tell my slippers ....
        1. Avior
          Avior 15 November 2019 08: 08 New
          -3
          The female thought is so tortuous that you won’t immediately comprehend smile
          1. Jerk
            Jerk 15 November 2019 12: 46 New
            -1
            Are you talking to yourself? About reverse and devices, for example laughing And gas supply, NOT connected with transit?
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 09: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        Transit contract, not purchase

        Where there is transit, there is a reverse ... not? Moreover, the physical reverse is just "not", purely "on the road" is sucked off ... not? wink
        1. Avior
          Avior 15 November 2019 09: 05 New
          -6
          One way or another, gas must cross the western border of Ukraine - metering devices are already there.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 15 November 2019 09: 15 New
            +4
            Quote: Avior
            metering devices are already there

            Come on, come on ... in more detail - about the "border and instruments."

            Buddy it is not possible to blow one pipe in two directions. This is physics. And the second pipe, for the “reverse” to “Zaparizhu”, for example, is somehow not observed. Despite the "metering devices".

            Not? wink
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 15 November 2019 14: 38 New
              -1
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              the second pipe, for the “reverse” to “Zaparizhu”, for example - is somehow not observed.
              So he turned - obverse, so - reverse ... They are not watching the pipes, but watching the numbers on the reverse. The digital economy has long been! Piping at this time
            2. Avior
              Avior 15 November 2019 15: 26 New
              0
              No.
              In fact, the “pipe” in many places consists of several parallel threads.
              For some of them in the summer they swing the other way
  6. askort154
    askort154 15 November 2019 06: 44 New
    +6
    Ukraine, continuing to assert that it has not been purchasing gas from Russia for a long time, insists on a long-term contract (at least 5 years).

    Persistently reiterated - at least 10 years. Now we agree for 5 years, another month and a half ahead. But time is not in their favor. The Bundestag passed a law in Germany yesterday
    Germany's independence from EU decisions in energy matters. Now, all the requests and "requirements" of Ukraine, Germany will look regardless of the EU.
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 15 November 2019 08: 05 New
      +5
      Quote: askort154
      Now, all the requests and "requirements" of Ukraine, Germany will look regardless of the EU.
      And by spring SP2 will be ready ...
      ... and Germany and Finns sent EU energy decisions ...
      As I understand it, if transit is not prolonged and SP2 is not completed, Germany can send the entire EU (both flows are included in Germany), and they won’t give gas to ukreraich even if there is enough gas to reverse ...
    2. Avior
      Avior 15 November 2019 08: 12 New
      0
      About "at least 5 years" can be read only in this article by an anonymous author. Where he got it is not clear.
      Ukraine requires 10 years.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 15 November 2019 06: 44 New
    +5
    It is necessary not to seek happiness across the ocean, but to negotiate with neighbors

    To have near you a "nest where your" non-friends "are being raised .... there is very little pleasant, and in this particular case, common Slavic roots and spirituality, this is unacceptable.
    Moreover, mistakes must be corrected ... the former ... attitude to the "former" union, neglect of elementary logic and common sense, in the matter of building good neighborly relations with neighbors, this was a bo-o-big stupidity, although it looks more like a betrayal!
    1. IGOR GORDEEV
      IGOR GORDEEV 15 November 2019 07: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      It is necessary not to seek happiness across the ocean, but to negotiate with neighbors

      To have near you a "nest where your" non-friends "are being raised .... there is very little pleasant, and in this particular case, common Slavic roots and spirituality, this is unacceptable.
      Moreover, mistakes must be corrected ... the former ... attitude to the "former" union, neglect of elementary logic and common sense, in the matter of building good neighborly relations with neighbors, this was a bo-o-big stupidity, although it looks more like a betrayal!

      Probably there was a plan that they will begin to backtrack - this did not happen and most likely will not happen in the near future, given the growing Ukrainian generation, brought up you know how. We take into account that Ukraine, as the enemy of Russia, is supported by the United States. Therefore, it can last a long, very long time and have many painful consequences. And as always - what to do? I do not know.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 November 2019 08: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
        We take into account that Ukraine, as the enemy of Russia, is supported by the United States. Therefore, it can last a long, very long time and have many painful consequences. And as always - what to do? I do not know.

        There are many different methods! Only everything begins to act in one case, when they begin to work hard with one goal, achieving the desired result!
        Otherwise, no way.
      2. sniperino
        sniperino 15 November 2019 09: 09 New
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        Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
        We take into account that Ukraine, as the enemy of Russia, is supported by the United States.
        What can the US offer them? They will give the javelins and send gas to Russia to produce? Or will they carry gas in exchange for land?
  8. Li17
    Li17 15 November 2019 06: 47 New
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    Quote: den3080
    And myself !! Broadcast from Brazil !! From overseas !! (this is probably the reaction of the pots will be)
    smile

    look in the mirror ... Broadcaster!
  9. fif21
    fif21 15 November 2019 06: 53 New
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    I am glad that Gazprom has retained its image of a reliable partner, and Russophobia of pan-heads has been punished. hi
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 15 November 2019 07: 13 New
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      Quote: fif21
      I am glad that Gazprom has retained its image of a reliable partner, and Russophobia of pan-heads has been punished. hi


      GazPröm? Image? Are you definitely from Russia?
      1. nerd.su
        nerd.su 15 November 2019 08: 33 New
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        And what should a Russian citizen know about the image of Gazprom?
        1. sergo1914
          sergo1914 15 November 2019 09: 14 New
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          Quote: bot.su
          And what should a Russian citizen know about the image of Gazprom?


          That dreams come true.
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 15 November 2019 22: 12 New
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            Well, if you really want to, you can fly into space ... And without any Gazprom. With a pan on his head, this will not work, of course.
            1. sergo1914
              sergo1914 16 November 2019 08: 49 New
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              Quote: bot.su
              Well, if you really want to, you can fly into space ... And without any Gazprom. With a pan on his head, this will not work, of course.


              So remove the pan. What is in the way?
              1. nerd.su
                nerd.su 18 November 2019 22: 22 New
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                What makes you think that something is bothering me?
  10. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 15 November 2019 08: 01 New
    +2
    Who is in the know? We have long-term gas supply contracts with Europe. And if transit stops, then Gazprom will be responsible in court for failure to fulfill the contract / with possible billion fines /?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 15 November 2019 08: 29 New
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      Quote: Thunderbolt
      We have long-term gas supply contracts with Europe.

      They are trying to change the rules there .... the European Commission also strives to get in, but in fact, long-term contracts exist and are in effect.
      By the way, it seems that ours are also adapting to the new rules, the local ones ... not to say that it doesn’t work at all, they find paths / tracks to leak.
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 15 November 2019 08: 50 New
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      Quote: Thunderbolt
      And if transit stops, then Gazprom will be responsible in court for failure to fulfill the contract / with possible billion fines /?

      Gazprom has long-term gas supply contracts with European consumers, the non-fulfillment of which provides for huge fines. In order to maintain the image of a reliable supplier, Gazprom will be forced to purchase liquefied natural gas (LNG) on the market from other suppliers, from the same Russian Novatek and supply it to LNG terminals, which are enough in Europe to avoid fines and ships. At the same time, Gazprom will incur losses, since LNG is more expensive, and contracts are signed for Gazprom pipe gas, which is cheaper. Will Miller again ask for subsidies to cover losses, "public property" after all!
  11. Sergst
    Sergst 15 November 2019 08: 57 New
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    Quote: den3080
    And myself !! Broadcast from Brazil !! From overseas !! (this is probably the reaction of the pots will be)
    smile

    I didn’t understand why a person caught so many minuses? He did not express his opinion! Yes, and put the smile. Probably morning, jokes are not yet perceived.
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  13. Romeo
    Romeo 15 November 2019 09: 18 New
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    Quote: kepmor
    cancels

    And is it like making friends?
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  15. beeper
    beeper 15 November 2019 10: 24 New
    +1
    What can’t be taken from Putin’s explosives is the ability to grasp and convexly outline the very essence of the phenomenon!
    In this case, the Russian President is 100% right — you need to be friends and negotiate with your neighbors, and not rattle recklessly, like the maydauns-Bandera cave houses!

    But do the parasites-Washington-dependent small-town kleptos “w / Bandera”, who have captured and dribbling Ukraine, and their marginal Bandera-Nazi servants think about the future of “their” country and improve the lives of its rapidly dying MULTINATIONAL working population ?!
    They would have to grab a moment, and there even a flood and grass did not grow!
    The Bandera residents themselves (with their boastful “multi-citizenship”!) Are surely not going to live in Ukraine, since even under the capital’s Kiev, “for a bit” in their own money, they are dragging “deadly” radioactive waste from of the whole "civilized Pan-European", do those who are going to stay here for a long time ?!
    And the fates that are still alive are 25 million (only half of the 52 million people of the ex-Ukrainian SSR survived, at the very beginning of the “Rosbudovy Nezalezhnisti” - is that not the Bandera-fascist Holodomor ??!) Of fellow citizens (according to their “Ukrainian passport”, and many, sent by the "common people", Diasporan and other "Cossacks" and he doesn’t!) the "w / Bandera" temporary workers who cling to the Ukrainian "helm of power" are definitely not worried, judging by ALL destructive "cases of them" and Maydaun’s "rhetoric"!
  16. Lesorub
    Lesorub 15 November 2019 10: 30 New
    +2
    Also, Vladimir Putin noted that the situation in this regard is aggravated by new claims of Naftogaz in relation to Gazprom.

    Ukraine risks holding the heating season with the “minimum” amount of gas - buying the same Russian gas from Europe with a mark-up - actions comparable to self-masism!)
  17. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 15 November 2019 10: 47 New
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    It is not necessary for Russians to feed this crowd, it is not necessary to negotiate with the “thieves” for Bandera, it is necessary for the GDP alone, could a referendum “on friendship with Banderaites” be held in Russia from the beginning?
  18. 23424636
    23424636 15 November 2019 10: 47 New
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    Quote: tihonmarine
    Well, about Ukraine and about gas, we have already snapped up. It’s time to understand once and for all that Ukraine has left Russia for the next 100 years.

    So the Jewish Bolsheviks thought in 1918, signing a Brest conspiracy with the Germans and their satellites, giving the southern provinces of Russia (Ukraine) an insult to the Fritz. The Second World War passed this territory there. Here, and many Russian people were killed here, probably half of all those who died, and what will we forget about them? but God's providence will not leave the fighters who laid their belly for the fatherland, and will return this land back home. Now, the main Hasid, Kolomoisky, begins to cry out to Russia with reason and words. And maybe the reverse movement will begin slowly, when the main destroyer of the Russian world Soros will fall down and go to hell
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 November 2019 11: 05 New
    +1
    I agree with the GDP, BUT ...... This can be said with people who made a mistake, incorrectly conducted an analysis of the situation, and hence the fallacy of political decisions.
    In the case of banderlogs, this is absolutely not the case; there is a place to be a conscious, not erroneous political confrontation. And from here all the other actions, such as the demolition of monuments to Lenin, although they must lick them for the fact that they have grown with a fellow-country and formalized their political status. Demolition of monuments to Soviet military commanders, which essentially means a temporary victory in the ongoing Great Patriotic War.
    And I can return everything to normal in my only one way: by taking as a fulcrum the republic of LDNR as part of Ukraine participating in political life and supporting adequate citizens throughout the territory to demolish the Bandera regime either by election or it will end in a big civil war. Maybe I'm wrong, but I do not see another way.
  20. Waltasar
    Waltasar 15 November 2019 11: 57 New
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    Previously, the approach of the new year on advertising with a red gnome on trucks was felt, and the last 10 years on gas disputes.
  21. L-39NG
    L-39NG 15 November 2019 12: 54 New
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    In the Czech Republic there is an expression that openly calls not to believe those in power: kázat vodu a pít víno "- the preachers say that we need to drink water and drink wine themselves, in short - there is no money, but we will take a walk.