Europe will create its own missile defense system with space elements

Europe will create its own missile and air defense system, independent of the United States. The decision to create has already been approved by the European Union. This is stated on Tuesday in the final statement of the EU Council at the level of defense ministers.

A meeting of defense ministers of countries within the European Union was held in Brussels, at which the project for the creation of a European air defense and missile defense system with space components (TWISTER) was approved. The tasks of the system will include the reflection of air threats of the latest generation. The creation of the system at the first stage will be undertaken by five European countries. The TWISTER system project has become one of the 13 new European military projects that are listed under the EU Structural Military Partnership (PESCO) program.

The design of the “Timely Warning and Interception with Space Observation Components” system was approved on November 12 of 2019. France, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands and Finland will take part in its implementation.

- says the final document.

The conversation about creating their own anti-aircraft defense system in the European Union began in February, after the United States withdrew from the agreement on the elimination of intermediate and shorter-range missiles. At the same time, Poland, Latvia and Ukraine were also proposed to be included in the united European missile defense system. At the same time, there was talk in Ukraine about the possible deployment of anti-aircraft defense systems on the territory of the country, but it was about American systems.

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[OlezhkaKravchenko]

the United States is already tired of Europe

[maxim947]

But what about psheki with gypsies?)) They do not turn out to be Europe .. they have their own mattress in the western part. Whatever they say about a united Europe, but still it will be divided into eastern and western "progressive", with their inherent roles

[Sky strike fighter]

The design of the “Timely Warning and Interception with Space Observation Components” system was approved on November 12 of 2019. France, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands and Finland will take part in its implementation.

The split of the EU is evident. There are far from 5 countries in the EU. In addition, there are no Germany and Great Britain on the list who do not believe in Macron’s words about the death of NATO’s brain and still put on the USA. Riot on a ship?

But what about psheks with gypsies?))

There are already Aegis Ashore, elements of the American missile defense.

Whatever they say about a united Europe, but still it will be divided into eastern and western "progressive", with their inherent roles

Do you also attribute Germany and Great Britain to Eastern Europe? And so the fragmentation of Europe is evident. The EU is less and less like a whole.

[maxim947]

Saxon mattresses are patronized, they always stood apart, and the Fritz will join, a matter of time

[SRC P-15]

Europe will create its own missile defense system with space elements

Well, if the United States raised a howl and is threatened with sanctions about Turkey’s purchase of S-400 from Russia, I imagine that they will promise the EU if they really start building their missile defense and air defense systems. So: these are just the wet dreams of European states. The United States will show them what Mr. Twister is ...

[Tusv]

Quote: SRC P-15

what they will promise the EU if they really start building their missile defense and air defense there.

Sasha So the Hans have already been building their missile defense systems for a long time .. With Reyton, agree on the supply of missile defense. And no one is buzzing

[cniza]

Europe will create its own missile defense system with space elements

Oh, how wonderful, but what about NATO, and the United States will not be silent.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: cniza

Europe will create its own missile defense system with space elements

Oh, how wonderful, but what about NATO, and the United States will not be silent.

While at the level of "Wishlist".

[cniza]

The United States will not let them do something serious, because Europe is occupied ...

[7,62x54]

Kaliningrad will be the bone in the throat of this missile defense system

[Pavel57]

At the same time, Poland, Latvia and Ukraine were also proposed to be included in the united European missile defense system.

Against Iran?

[knn54]

Against the DPRK.
The system will lose a lot without Estonian operators.

[Fedorov]

In my opinion, any kind of Wishlist smacks of a bit of moronism. Either they are rolling a 6th generation tank out of plastic, then an airplane, and things are still there. Yes, in a geyrop, throats will gnaw at each other already, than they will create something. Moreover, the work of 20 years, having no experience.

[Thrifty]

So, a new round of the arms race has started. Only one thing, but the NATO countries in Europe do not have money to spend 2 percent of the GDP on defense, where then will they get billions of euros for their Europro program? Moreover, they decided to pull in the local black hole, that is, ukroin. Europeans will invest money, and then look for ukrointsy in the field. ..

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Thrifty

So, a new round of the arms race has started .... Europeans will invest money, and then look for a Ukrainian in the field. ..

But it seems to me that one should welcome the aspirations of the five countries, there they will catch up too little: this deepens the disagreement with the staff - this is in the hands of the whole world. The development of this project will take a lot of money that will not be used elsewhere. And it will not happen very quickly ... Whatever they were entertaining, if only they would not play with matches

[Pavel57]

2% for defense will be found if orders remain in Europe.

[Pete mitchell]

not so simple: 2% of Germany’s GDP are other possibilities than 2% of Latvia. The old European decrease in defense spending was due to the collapse of the Warsaw block, everyone was glad that the enemy had disappeared - they redirected financial flows. Given the current internal problems of old Europe, it is not easy to convince the public to spend huge headstock on military projects. From here everything dancing with a tambourine around the ephemeral 'Russian threat.' Well, the foreign policy situation can be described as brawl non stop - it is very difficult to change. Tangle of contradictions in one word - high are engaged in frolic

[Amateur]

It was:

It became

And what will happen ...

[Sky strike fighter]

On the left is Obama, and on the right is Sentsov? Doctors of Destiny.

[NF68]

Before such an ABM system is created in the EU, many years will pass. And how much they will just chat about this topic.

[Reserve buildbat]

That is, they were going to copy C-300 from Greece? Flag in their hands, a steam locomotive towards)))

[Lesorub]

The conversation about creating their own anti-aircraft missile defense system in the European Union began in February, after the United States withdrew from the agreement on the elimination of intermediate and shorter-range missiles.

The United States is not entirely profitable - the independence of Europe in the creation of missile defense systems - air defense, at least the loss of the entrenched market for Patriot and THAAD sales, I think the Statesmen will calm down the ardor of European gunsmiths))

[Dmitry Potapov]

Ento EUROPRO from the USA probably !? Hmm, as if the S-400 did not want to, after Turkey I would not be surprised. And what? Turks seem to get away with it! Although in power in Turkey is not a transvestite, but in Europe, who will end up with iron balls? There is no de Gaulle, no Mitterrand, no personality like Adolf, Berlusconi is old, Schroeder will not pull.

[Alexey RA]

The project of the Early Warning and Interception System with Space Observation Components was approved on November 12, 2019.

We will build our missile defense - with blackjack ... although, stop - something is missing.

At the same time, Poland, Latvia and Ukraine were also proposed to be included in the united European missile defense system.

But no, everything is in place - this is the second component.

[rocket757]

It’s not harmful to dream how it warms up ... it’s not rockets that bang the geyrop; migrants will roll it out and their own do-it-yourself!

[Lelek]

Quote: rocket757

It’s not harmful to dream how it warms up ... it’s not rockets that bang the geyrop; migrants will roll it out and their own do-it-yourself!

And colleague Erdogan will help them ..., ugh, you have already begun to help with the words: "Take back your unusable goods."

[rocket757]

I say, their own fool will destroy them! This should have stepped on a pet peeve of someone who has "the keys to their gate" !!! It is very possible that now he will open them!

[Old26]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

The split of the EU is evident. There are far from 5 countries in the EU. In addition, there are no Germany and Great Britain on the list who do not believe in Macron’s words about the death of NATO’s brain and still put on the USA. Riot on a ship?

There is no split. NATO has always had a mixed bag of air defense systems. This is especially true of the Young NATO members, that is, the former socialist countries. Tez also has American "Khrki", Soviet "Cubes" and French "Crotals"
Among the countries mentioned above, Spain has both the Patriots PAC-2 and PAC-3, and the Hawks, and French air defense elements. And a pan-European missile defense (conditionally pan-European) will rather complement the American Asher system, and not be a counterweight to it. They have been talking about the French system "Exograd" for 10 years, no less, but it is not yet there ...

[iConst]

Quote: Old26

There is no split. NATO has always had a hodgepodge regarding air defense systems.

This is due to the action of the INF. Nobody bothered. It is what it is. Now the situation has changed. The United States behaves unpredictably, throwing vassals here and there. Some money is required.
So they fussed. If Trump suddenly gets a second term (hehe), then the panic will definitely begin.

[Tusv]

Quote: Old26

NATO has always had a hodgepodge regarding air defense systems.

Here, the namesake is the main question. The United States withdrew from the INF Treaty. Europe does not believe in our moratorium. I am the way too. Battlefield Europe. It is intended, as Professor Zhirinovsky used to say. Sweep the love.
At this point in time, only three powers can boast of some kind of missile defense. Russia, USA and Israel. Germany is already developing, and the rest of Europe writes bamazhki

[Town Hall]

Quote: Old26

NATO has air defense systems

NATO’s air defense tasks are handled by aviation rather than ground systems. It’s time to understand this.

[Old26]

Quote: iConst

Quote: Old26

There is no split. NATO has always had a hodgepodge regarding air defense systems.

This is due to the action of the INF. Nobody bothered. It is what it is. Now the situation has changed. The United States behaves unpredictably, throwing vassals here and there. Some money is required.
So they fussed. If Trump suddenly gets a second term (hehe), then the panic will definitely begin.

This does not explain the actions of the RIAC. It has always been. The only exception was the fifties, when other countries did not have their own air defense systems. And then. - some in the forest, some for firewood. The countries of the former socialist camp that joined NATO simply did not have and do not have the money to re-equip their armed forces with Western weapons. So they buy crumbs. Someone sold them the old Hawks, which they removed and replaced with the same Patriot. Someone was "neutral" and bought from many, incl. and the USSR (Finland, for example).
The system, if created, will only be an addition to the American Aegis Ashore system.

[iConst]

Quote: Old26

This does not explain the actions of the INF. It has always been. The fifties, when other countries did not have their air defense systems, were the only exceptions.

Just the same and explained. This is not about air defense, but about missile defense. These are still slightly different things. In the absence of medium and short-range missiles, the need was minimal. Now everything has changed. Plus, the uncertainty in relations with the US in the medium term. Agree - to receive sanctions and fines as the hegemon decides - this does not inspire optimism in the European Union.

[G. Georgiev]

..Europe should, remove American radars, and not interfere. Then there will be no need for European missile defense.

[Old26]

Quote: iConst

Just the same and explained. This is not about air defense, but about missile defense. These are still slightly different things. In the absence of medium and short-range missiles, the need was minimal. Now everything has changed. Plus, the uncertainty in relations with the US in the medium term. Agree - to receive sanctions and fines as the hegemon decides - this does not inspire optimism in the European Union.

In the absence of short- and medium-range missiles, only two types of complexes are needed
1. Strategic missile defense, capable of intercepting blocks of intercontinental missiles
2. ABM of the battlefield (ABM theater). Which is capable of intercepting the entire "assortment" of missiles, ranging from missiles for MLRS and tactical and ending with medium-range missiles. And here "special missile defense systems" are not needed. In fact, the entire set of missiles is intercepted by long-range air defense systems, such as our S-300 / S-400, American Patriots, and Chinese air defense systems. The performance characteristics of the missiles of these air defense systems are sufficient to intercept these missiles.

As for the European missile defense system being created for the future. The tasks of this "missile defense" are still completely unclear. Either the interception of targets, including medium-range missiles - then there will be nothing fundamentally new there, there will be modernized air defense systems that existed both during the existence of the INF Treaty and without it.
Or there will be a segment that will intercept ICBM blocks. Then this is a completely different matter. But those same Americans are well aware that their two missile defense bases in Europe will not solve all the problems of covering NATO territory from missiles of countries that are in confrontation with them. Therefore, they extremely calmly redistribute the center of gravity in finances to their NATO allies

Quote: G. Georgiev

..Europe should, remove American radars, and not interfere. Then there will be no need for European missile defense.

Would you decide what Europe should do? Either remove American radars (by the way, which ones) or not interfere with the same Americans. And then such statements resemble the well-known expression about the fact that someone wants to "observe innocence and gain authority"