US plans to bundle F-22 and F-35 with software

The US Air Force will try to adapt the F-22 and F-35 to each other as part of an effort to create a single platform for all of its manned and unmanned aircraft. As indicated, we are talking about information exchange between different types of vehicles in the course of their battle. It is planned that the general "picture" will reflect all land, air, sea objects and means of cyber confrontation.

We have many platforms between which we would like to exchange information

- explained in the Air Force.

Link F-22 and F-35 is planned through common software in December this year. This is the first step. In the future, it is expected that all military assets will be integrated: ships, Tanks, trucks, soldiers and so on. Therefore, a combination of two "stealth" will be the first experience in the formation of a single information canvas, for which, as the Pentagon believes, the future.

You will be able to see the whole battle picture, you can click on the “ship” and find out where it was and where it is moving

- noted in the Air Force.

Information integration equipment has been designated Omni One. It will become a military analogue of applications such as Waze or FlightAware, which are already used to in the civilian sector.

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[Crash_117]

The imbal bond is coming.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Crash_117

Imba bunch

ABOUT! I learned a new expression for myself.
Specially revered that such imbovost. Otekl roots of this expression.
Everyone strives for some hair dryer to work.

Insanity or another reason for this? That is the question!

[Crash_117]

Have you just discovered the Internet for yourself today? The word "Imba" has been circulating on the Internet for about 10 years.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Vladimir16

Everyone strives for some hair dryer to work. laughing

In addition to the shit, there are dozens of jargons. And slang words are often used to express humor or irony (as in both posts above ).

[Nenie Lynn]

Quote: Vladimir16

Specially revered that such imbovost. Otekl roots of this expression.

even if they knew English, albeit with a dictionary, they didn’t even have to climb the Internet ....

[okko077]

The U.S. Air Force will try to adapt the F-22 and F-35 to each other as part of efforts to create a single platform for all of its manned and unmanned aircraft.

Well, the author is direct some kind of squalor. But it’s nothing that they have all their weapons exchanging information within the framework of network-centric systems, and the ground forces also use and deliver this information to the common information space .. We don’t have this, only in the framework of air defense and between airplanes .. But this cannot be said, here the author also twists out or just stupidly copies incorrect information ...
F-35 has been adapted for a long time, but F-22 could only receive this information, it is being finalized, and the channels were weak in terms of bandwidth ... We heard a ringing, but don’t know where it is ... It's boring to read dummies opuses ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: okko077

But it’s nothing that they have all the weapons exchanging information within the framework of network-centric systems

do you not yet understand that this is very far from the real state of affairs? as you can see, even such high-tech combat units as aircraft cannot yet exchange information in the required volume. while at the level of 1945 - "the first, the first, I am the second. I am under attack!"
but you can continue to believe in network-centric troops in the United States

[okko077]

Have you read the article of the same brake and were delighted? There are no network-centric troops ... There are real-time Combat Information Systems ... Our geniuses in the General Staff call them RUK and ROK, they can - they are Gerasimov ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: okko077

There are real-time combat information systems ...

it seems very useful systems if even 2 American fighters of the 5th generation (as they claim) still do not work in this very combat information system
and you, decide already there on your sofa then you

Quote: okko077

But it’s nothing that they have all the weapons exchanging information within the framework of network-centric systems

and then suddenly oops and

Quote: okko077

There are no network-centric troops ...

like this somersault!
Or about the brakes are you talking about yourself?

[voyaka uh]

The problem is outdated electronics and the F-22 computer. I had to connect these two types of aircraft through Link-16. Also outdated. Although the F-35 is a much more advanced system.
And the F-35 is planned to be connected by communication with the space shuttles X-37V Boeing.

[Mark1]

voyaka uh (Alexey), they are also "invisible", but only in your imagination ...

[voyaka uh]

In my imagination they are hardly noticeable radar
Like the Russian Su-57

[Mark1]

Quote: voyaka uh

In my imagination they are radar subtle
Like the Russian Su-57

voyaka uh (Alexey)! Previously, your expressions in VO - speak of another. Contradict yourself!

[Vladimir16]

all military equipment: ships, tanks, trucks, soldiers

Comma separated by tanks, trucks, soldiers.
Have you completely stopped learning Russian?
People, flies, tanks, ships and cow dung suffered from the heat.

Fellow journalists, and other writers, I understand that you do not care about the rules (you see the world ), but respect the people reading your letter.

[Sky strike fighter]

a combination of two "stealth" will be the first experience in the formation of a single information canvas, behind which, as the Pentagon believes, the future.

Someone told us for many years that the Americans have long had such a system. Who will throw like breathing.

Quote: voyaka uh

In my imagination they are hardly noticeable radar
Like the Russian Su-57

Everything is clear with your imagination.

[kit88]

This is what opportunities are opening up for those who can crack the protection and take this network under their control.
Yes, somewhere Russian hackers knead their fingers, anticipating pleasure.

[Crash_117]

Many Russian hackers have cracked such systems? The same can be said about the Su-57 and the Hunter.
Go down from heaven.

[evgic]

According to the State Department, Russian hackers hacked everything from the president’s toilet to counting programs.

[Herman 4223]

I think that not only Russians. But it’s not so simple there.

[Alexander Petrov1]

If only with such software with the help of Indian migrant workers, as on the Boeing 737 MAX, otherwise both fighters would fall ...

[Yrec]

As far as I know, there have already been attempts. F-22 was able to integrate only in passive mode. In general, it seems doubtful the idea of ​​information integration of everything in the world when countering modern electronic warfare.

[voyaka uh]

"the idea of ​​informational integration of everything in the world seems questionable" ////
----
This is a key idea. In obtaining fast and voluminous information - the key to victory. Despite all the attempts of electronic warfare and hacker attacks.
There is nothing more important now than information technology.

[vadson]

there is energy.

[VO3A]

The idea is correct, but the ways to achieve this idea may be different ... Pi_ndosy do not always choose the right path ... When using information for weapons systems three-dimensional information is not needed at all ...

[Good_Anonymous]

US plans to bundle F-22 and F-35 with software

As indicated, we are talking about the information exchange between different types of vehicles in the course of their battle.

Please shoot and fire the one who invented the headline. You are welcome.

[svp67]

US plans to bundle F-22 and F-35 with software

????? Was this not done during the design? This is "quiet cut, American style"

[Jack O'Neill]

????? But when designing it was not done? This is "quiet cut, American style"

They wanted to connect initially, but there were hardware troubles on the part of the Reptor. The electronics of the Raptor is outdated, and seriously so, against the backdrop of Lightning.
In fact, the filling raptor needs to be modernized, and that’s a lot of money. So we decided to ride on software crutches. So far it’s not very good.

[svp67]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

The electronics of the Raptor is outdated, and seriously so, against the backdrop of Lightning.

Yes, even a tube one, the output characteristics and the main open source software are immediately important, allowing you to carry out various "upgrades" as needed

[Jack O'Neill]

Yes, even a tube one, the output characteristics and the main open source software are immediately important, allowing you to carry out various "upgrades" as needed

You don’t understand that not all hardware can work with all software?
Software upgrades at the outdated hardware level are very difficult to do, but it sometimes happens that it is impossible.
And the software that works perfectly on one "hardware" is not the fact that it will work on another.
Not so simple...

[voyaka uh]

The F-22 was designed much earlier than the F-35.
In F-22 they made an amazing glider, put the perfect radar, but did not dare to revolutionize the computer and software. We did everything the old fashioned way: firmware chips, inflexible ADA language, closed architecture.
In F-35, by contrast, a central computer, C ++, open art. F-35 can easily be connected to any existing (and future) military system.

[svp67]

Quote: voyaka uh

We did everything the old fashioned way: firmware chips, inflexible ADA language, closed architecture.
In F-35, by contrast, a central computer, C ++, open art. F-35 can easily be connected to any existing (and future) military system.

Q.E.D...

[voyaka uh]

What to prove? F-22 was designed in the 80s.
Su-57 in 2019 is still on firmware.
After 10-15 years, it will not be possible to connect the communication systems that appear.
This is not a cut, but a lack of technology. As with the F-22

[svp67]

Quote: voyaka uh

After 10-15 years, it will not be possible to connect the communication systems that appear.
This is not a cut, but a lack of technology. As with the F-22

There is still more misunderstanding of the development paths.
And forgive me, but when something new is being done, they think about their compatibility with the old ... Here you need to look not only at what the F-22 designer could not do, but what the F-35 designer did not want to do

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: svp67

But when designing it was not done?

Obviously not.

Quote: svp67

This is "quiet cut, American style"

Sometimes it’s better to chew ... True software integration (code reuse) was not possible because Raptor software is much older and written in Ada. By the time it was necessary to write software for F-35, it was obvious that Ada remained a niche language and development on it would be much more complicated and more expensive, therefore the F-35 software was implemented in C ++.

If we understand "software integration" as in the headline of the news - it was impossible (and impossible at the moment), because the F-22 stupidly does not have a Link-16, for stealth. When delivered, the integration will be almost automatic.

[rocket757]

The U.S. Air Force will try to adapt the F-22 and F-35 to each other as part of efforts to create a single platform for all of its manned and unmanned aircraft.

The experiment continues ... let's look at the result.

[faterdom]

Quote: Good_Anonymous

Quote: svp67

But when designing it was not done?

Obviously not.

Quote: svp67

This is "quiet cut, American style"

Sometimes it’s better to chew ... True software integration (code reuse) was not possible because Raptor software is much older and written in Ada. By the time it was necessary to write software for F-35, it was obvious that Ada remained a niche language and development on it would be much more complicated and more expensive, therefore the F-35 software was implemented in C ++.

If we understand "software integration" as in the headline of the news - it was impossible (and impossible at the moment), because the F-22 stupidly does not have a Link-16, for stealth. When delivered, the integration will be almost automatic.

So let them switch to Win 10 .... They even laugh when after the update the pilot in flight sees his favorite color - blue, but not above the cockpit light, but on all the screens at once.