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US plans to bundle F-22 and F-35 with software

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The US Air Force will try to adapt the F-22 and F-35 to each other as part of an effort to create a single platform for all of its manned and unmanned aircraft. As indicated, we are talking about information exchange between different types of vehicles in the course of their battle. It is planned that the general "picture" will reflect all land, air, sea objects and means of cyber confrontation.


We have many platforms between which we would like to exchange information

- explained in the Air Force.

Link F-22 and F-35 is planned through common software in December this year. This is the first step. In the future, it is expected that all military assets will be integrated: ships, Tanks, trucks, soldiers and so on. Therefore, a combination of two "stealth" will be the first experience in the formation of a single information canvas, for which, as the Pentagon believes, the future.

You will be able to see the whole battle picture, you can click on the “ship” and find out where it was and where it is moving

- noted in the Air Force.

Information integration equipment has been designated Omni One. It will become a military analogue of applications such as Waze or FlightAware, which are already used to in the civilian sector.
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  1. Crash_117
    Crash_117 11 November 2019 12: 43 New
    -3
    The imbal bond is coming. good
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 11 November 2019 13: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: Crash_117
      Imba bunch

      ABOUT! I learned a new expression for myself.
      Specially revered that such imbovost. Otekl roots of this expression.
      Everyone strives for some hair dryer to work. laughing

      Insanity or another reason for this? That is the question!
      1. Crash_117
        Crash_117 11 November 2019 13: 29 New
        -1
        You just discovered the Internet today? The word "Imba" on the network for about 10 years already walks.
      2. Good_Anonymous
        Good_Anonymous 11 November 2019 13: 44 New
        -4
        Quote: Vladimir16
        Everyone strives for some hair dryer to work. laughing


        In addition to the shit, there are dozens of jargons. And slang words are often used to express humor or irony (as in both posts above smile).
      3. Nenie Lynn
        Nenie Lynn 11 November 2019 17: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Vladimir16
        Specially revered that such imbovost. Otekl roots of this expression.

        even if they knew English, albeit with a dictionary, they didn’t even have to climb the Internet .... fellow
    2. okko077
      okko077 11 November 2019 13: 47 New
      -7
      The U.S. Air Force will try to adapt the F-22 and F-35 to each other as part of efforts to create a single platform for all of its manned and unmanned aircraft.

      Well, the author is direct some kind of squalor. But it’s nothing that they have all their weapons exchanging information within the framework of network-centric systems, and the ground forces also use and deliver this information to the common information space .. We don’t have this, only in the framework of air defense and between airplanes .. But this cannot be said, here the author also twists out or just stupidly copies incorrect information ...
      F-35 has been adapted for a long time, but F-22 could only receive this information, it is being finalized, and the channels were weak in terms of bandwidth ... We heard a ringing, but don’t know where it is ... It's boring to read dummies opuses ...
      1. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 12 November 2019 14: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: okko077
        But it’s nothing that they have all the weapons exchanging information within the framework of network-centric systems

        you still do not understand that this is very far from the real situation? as you can see, even such high-tech combat units as airplanes cannot yet exchange information to the required extent. while at the level of 1945 - "first, first, I'm second. they attack me!" wink
        but you can continue to believe in network-centric troops in the United States yes
        1. okko077
          okko077 12 November 2019 21: 52 New
          0
          Have you read the article of the same brake and were delighted? There are no network-centric troops ... There are real-time Combat Information Systems ... Our geniuses in the General Staff call them RUK and ROK, they can - they are Gerasimov ...
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 15 November 2019 17: 37 New
            0
            Quote: okko077
            There are real-time combat information systems ...

            it seems very useful systems if even 2 American fighters of the 5th generation (as they claim) still do not work in this very combat information system request
            and you, decide already there on your sofa wink then you
            Quote: okko077
            But it’s nothing that they have all the weapons exchanging information within the framework of network-centric systems

            and then suddenly oops and
            Quote: okko077
            There are no network-centric troops ...

            like this somersault! laughing
            Or about the brakes are you talking about yourself? what
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  2. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 November 2019 12: 46 New
    -5
    The problem is outdated electronics and the F-22 computer. I had to connect these two types of aircraft through Link-16. Also outdated. Although the F-35 is a much more advanced system.
    And the F-35 is planned to be connected by communication with the space shuttles X-37V Boeing.
    1. Mark1
      Mark1 11 November 2019 12: 50 New
      +4
      voyaka uh (Alexey), they are also "invisible", but only in your imagination ...
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 November 2019 12: 54 New
        0
        In my imagination they are hardly noticeable radar wink
        Like the Russian Su-57 drinks
        1. Mark1
          Mark1 11 November 2019 13: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: voyaka uh
          In my imagination they are radar subtle
          Like the Russian Su-57

          voyaka uh (Alexey)! Previously, your expressions in VO - speak of another. Contradict yourself!
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 11 November 2019 13: 16 New
            +4
            all military equipment: ships, tanks, trucks, soldiers

            Comma separated by tanks, trucks, soldiers. wassat
            Have you completely stopped learning Russian?
            People, flies, tanks, ships and cow dung suffered from the heat. wassat

            Fellow journalists, and other writers, I understand that you do not care about the rules (you see the world laughing ), but respect the people reading your letter.
        2. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 11 November 2019 13: 28 New
          0
          a combination of two "stealth" will be the first experience in the formation of a single information canvas, behind which, as the Pentagon believes, the future.

          Someone told us for many years that the Americans have long had such a system. no Who will throw like breathing.
          Quote: voyaka uh
          In my imagination they are hardly noticeable radar wink
          Like the Russian Su-57 drinks

          Everything is clear with your imagination. yes
  3. kit88
    kit88 11 November 2019 12: 53 New
    +5
    This is what opportunities are opening up for those who can crack the protection and take this network under their control.
    Yes, somewhere Russian hackers knead their fingers, anticipating pleasure.
    1. Crash_117
      Crash_117 11 November 2019 12: 56 New
      -4
      Many Russian hackers have cracked such systems? The same can be said about the Su-57 and the Hunter.
      Go down from heaven.
      1. evgic
        evgic 11 November 2019 13: 00 New
        +1
        According to the State Department, Russian hackers hacked everything from the president’s toilet to counting programs.
    2. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 11 November 2019 12: 58 New
      0
      I think that not only Russians. But it’s not so simple there.
    3. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 12 November 2019 00: 25 New
      -1
      If only with such software with the help of Indian migrant workers, as on the Boeing 737 MAX, otherwise both fighters would fall ...
  4. Yrec
    Yrec 11 November 2019 13: 04 New
    +3
    As far as I know, there have already been attempts. F-22 was able to integrate only in passive mode. In general, it seems doubtful the idea of ​​information integration of everything in the world when countering modern electronic warfare.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 November 2019 13: 30 New
      -4
      "it seems doubtful the idea of ​​information integration of everything in the world" ////
      ----
      This is a key idea. In obtaining fast and voluminous information - the key to victory. Despite all the attempts of electronic warfare and hacker attacks.
      There is nothing more important now than information technology.
      1. vadson
        vadson 11 November 2019 14: 01 New
        +3
        there is energy.
      2. VO3A
        VO3A 11 November 2019 17: 32 New
        0
        The idea is correct, but the ways to achieve this idea may be different ... Pi_ndosy do not always choose the right path ... When using information for weapons systems three-dimensional information is not needed at all ...
  5. Good_Anonymous
    Good_Anonymous 11 November 2019 13: 13 New
    -4

    US plans to bundle F-22 and F-35 with software



    As indicated, we are talking about the information exchange between different types of vehicles in the course of their battle.


    Please shoot and fire the one who invented the headline. You are welcome.
  6. svp67
    svp67 11 November 2019 13: 14 New
    +4
    US plans to bundle F-22 and F-35 with software
    ????? But when designing it was not done? This is a "quiet cut, American"
    1. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 11 November 2019 13: 29 New
      -3
      ????? But when designing it was not done? This is a "quiet cut, American"

      They wanted to connect initially, but there were hardware troubles on the part of the Reptor. The electronics of the Raptor is outdated, and seriously so, against the backdrop of Lightning.
      In fact, the filling raptor needs to be modernized, and that’s a lot of money. So we decided to ride on software crutches. So far it’s not very good.
      1. svp67
        svp67 11 November 2019 13: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        The electronics of the Raptor is outdated, and seriously so, against the backdrop of Lightning.

        Yes, even a lamp, the characteristics given out and the main open source software, which allows for various “upgrades”, are important right away, as needed
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 11 November 2019 14: 59 New
          -1
          Yes, even a lamp, the characteristics given out and the main open source software, which allows for various “upgrades”, are important right away, as needed

          You don’t understand that not all hardware can work with all software?
          Software upgrades at the outdated hardware level are very difficult to do, but it sometimes happens that it is impossible.
          And the software that works perfectly on one hardware is not the fact that it will work on another.
          Not so simple...
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 November 2019 13: 37 New
      -4
      The F-22 was designed much earlier than the F-35.
      In F-22 they made an amazing glider, put the perfect radar, but did not dare to revolutionize the computer and software. We did everything the old fashioned way: firmware chips, inflexible ADA language, closed architecture.
      In F-35, by contrast, a central computer, C ++, open art. F-35 can easily be connected to any existing (and future) military system.
      1. svp67
        svp67 11 November 2019 13: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        We did everything the old fashioned way: firmware chips, inflexible ADA language, closed architecture.
        In F-35, by contrast, a central computer, C ++, open art. F-35 can easily be connected to any existing (and future) military system.

        Q.E.D...
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 11 November 2019 13: 53 New
          -5
          What to prove? F-22 was designed in the 80s.
          Su-57 in 2019 is still on firmware.
          After 10-15 years, it will not be possible to connect the communication systems that appear.
          This is not a cut, but a lack of technology. As with the F-22
          1. svp67
            svp67 11 November 2019 14: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            After 10-15 years, it will not be possible to connect the communication systems that appear.
            This is not a cut, but a lack of technology. As with the F-22

            There is still more misunderstanding of the development paths.
            And forgive me, but when something new is being done, they think about their compatibility with the old ... Here you need to look not only at what the F-22 designer could not do, but what the F-35 designer did not want to do
    3. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 11 November 2019 13: 39 New
      -4
      Quote: svp67
      But when designing it was not done?


      Obviously not.

      Quote: svp67
      This is a "quiet cut, American"


      Sometimes it’s better to chew ... True software integration (code reuse) was not possible because Raptor software is much older and written in Ada. By the time it was necessary to write software for F-35, it was obvious that Ada remained a niche language and development on it would be much more complicated and more expensive, therefore the F-35 software was implemented in C ++.

      If you understand "software integration" as in the headline of the news - it was impossible (and impossible at the moment), because the F-22 is stupidly missing Link-16, because it is stealth. When delivered, integration will be almost automatic.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 11 November 2019 14: 19 New
    +1
    The U.S. Air Force will try to adapt the F-22 and F-35 to each other as part of efforts to create a single platform for all of its manned and unmanned aircraft.

    The experiment continues ... let's look at the result.
  8. faterdom
    faterdom 11 November 2019 16: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Good_Anonymous
    Quote: svp67
    But when designing it was not done?


    Obviously not.

    Quote: svp67
    This is a "quiet cut, American"


    Sometimes it’s better to chew ... True software integration (code reuse) was not possible because Raptor software is much older and written in Ada. By the time it was necessary to write software for F-35, it was obvious that Ada remained a niche language and development on it would be much more complicated and more expensive, therefore the F-35 software was implemented in C ++.

    If you understand "software integration" as in the headline of the news - it was impossible (and impossible at the moment), because the F-22 is stupidly missing Link-16, because it is stealth. When delivered, integration will be almost automatic.

    So let them switch to Win 10 .... They even laugh when after the update the pilot in flight sees his favorite color - blue, but not above the cockpit light, but on all the screens at once.