In the United States, they shot a body of an unknown combat vehicle prepared for shipment to Alaska

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American bloggers photographed the body of an unknown fighting vehicle (platform), which the U.S. Army was loading to send to Alaska.

In the United States, they shot a body of an unknown combat vehicle prepared for shipment to Alaska

Photo by Nathan White




It is noted that we can talk about the body of the latest combat vehicle, which is sent to the Test Center in Fort Greeley (Alaska). One of the features of this center is that in it military equipment is tested for efficiency in low-temperature conditions.

It is additionally noted that the body, in which special welding technologies were used, is going to expose to low-temperature influence. According to some reports, the body of the combat vehicle is made on the basis of an ultra-light and heavy-duty aluminum alloy (which concrete alloy is in question is not reported). But it is said that a promising combat platform with implemented technologies of CT Corporation (Concurrent Technologies) can be captured in the picture. This corporation deals with issues of materials science - they create special additives to various kinds of alloys, which ultimately expand the list of useful properties of the material. Also, corporation specialists use a special welding technology - friction stir welding.

It is noteworthy that in the 2017 year, according to the Defense Blog, CT received a contract from the Center for the Study of Armored and Automotive Engineering. The contract concerned research in the field of metal fatigue, ballistic characteristics of materials, and improving the efficiency of welds. The contract provides for the execution until September 27 2022 year.

Previously, the corporation noted that they possess technologies for creating light vehicles with high survivability.


Photo by Nathan White


Recently, a closed platform chassis test from CT was conducted. An explosion was carried out under the bottom, which in the end did not lead to the death of crew members. The tests were carried out according to the scheme of modeling the effects of an explosion on a person.

According to some reports, the corporation is busy creating the body of the NGCV combat vehicle, which should eventually replace the American Bradley. Experts note that when the hull of a promising combat vehicle is sold to the US Army, it is precisely "non-melting" welding that is used - welding, the heating of the material of which occurs due to friction.
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  1. +8
    10 November 2019 16: 13
    Judging by the appearance, something will be on the tracks, and the clearance is quite high, they will put them together, we will see.
    1. +12
      10 November 2019 16: 33
      Transport for the north. The aluminum case means it will float, and it will climb ice floes.
      1. +5
        10 November 2019 18: 10
        Quote: Ros 56
        Judging by the appearance, something will be on the tracks, and the clearance is quite high, they will put them together, we will see.

        The wide top of great "thickness" is typical of American amphibians.
        Larger sunroof for BMP
      2. +5
        10 November 2019 23: 36
        You can swim without aluminum. These apparently decided to use aluminum for low temperatures. In severe cold weather, aluminum alloys are preferable to iron alloys.
    2. +16
      10 November 2019 16: 38
      it looks like the EFV Expeditionary War Machine, the development of which the Americans spent 3 lard of greenery
      1. +3
        10 November 2019 17: 17
        Quote: Rich
        it looks like the EFV Expeditionary War Machine, the development of which the Americans spent 3 lard of greenery

        and they didn’t have something like a shell before? I remember, back in the USSR, men when the Ratsukh had accumulated decently for many years, they got those from below and designed them in a new
        1. +1
          10 November 2019 17: 36
          Yes, this is generally similar to Strike.
      2. +8
        10 November 2019 17: 42
        Quote: Rich
        looks like it is an EFV Expeditionary War Machine

        Judging by the types of feed, these are two completely different machines:

      3. +6
        10 November 2019 18: 25
        Expeditionary combat vehicle EFV
        Hardly. There are no water cannons, the lower frontal part has a small angle of inclination and will give great resistance in water.
        There is probably a prototype created by the GCV program, as a replacement for the combined-arms BMP

        Something like that it looked in the pictures a few years ago.
    3. 0
      10 November 2019 17: 38
      Quote: Ros 56
      clearance is quite high

      "It" seems to be on some kind of bedside tables.
  2. +1
    10 November 2019 16: 18
    Why unassembled?
    1. +11
      10 November 2019 21: 20
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      Why unassembled?

      Probably because while they check the effect of low temperatures on the body and welds. Why assemble the whole machine if its body does not meet the necessary parameters? If everything is type top, then probably everything will be shoved into this building and hanged, so that sea trials would already be carried out.
      The main thing is that this cuttlefish wouldn’t go to the reindeer herder Beldyev’s reindeer herder, because after that the reindeer herder will have an aluminum shed for drying chum salmon.
  3. +5
    10 November 2019 16: 18
    Something very huge will be ..
    1. +8
      10 November 2019 16: 23
      Quote: capsid
      Something very huge will be ..

      ... and with increased buoyancy ...
      1. +4
        10 November 2019 17: 04
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Quote: capsid
        Something very huge will be ..

        ... and with increased buoyancy ...

        Does this mean that it does not sink? laughing good
      2. +2
        10 November 2019 17: 22
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Quote: capsid
        Something very huge will be ..

        ... and with increased buoyancy ...

        Everyone who sensibly discusses the topic of the article, plus me hi Looks like. And not just similar. And above "Rich" posted the video in the comments.
    2. 0
      10 November 2019 17: 16
      Quote: capsid
      Something very huge will be ..

      Some kind of battle mammoth, God forgive me! belay winked
    3. +3
      10 November 2019 17: 58
      Quote: capsid
      Something very huge will be ..

      If the shooting angle is shifted a couple of meters ahead and crouched down IT will become simply gigantic. See the first picture at the beginning of the article, where this device is located on a platform for transportation, there you can more accurately determine its scale. hi
  4. +10
    10 November 2019 16: 19
    It is noted that we can talk about the body of the latest combat vehicle, which is sent to the Test Center in Fort Greeley (Alaska). One of the features of this center is that in it military equipment is tested on low temperature performance.
    Judging by the stern, I would suggest that this is a new BMP. And tests at low temperatures, they say that the states may be preparing new equipment for the Arctic. NSR does not rest.
    1. +3
      10 November 2019 16: 40
      Here - our SMP does not give them rest ...
    2. +4
      10 November 2019 17: 22
      Judging by the stern, I would suggest that this is a new BMP. And tests at low temperatures, they say that the states, perhapsare preparing new equipment for the conditions of the Arctic. NSR does not rest.
      It seems to me that "maybe" is superfluous here. We can speak with confidence about such preparation. The NSR, unlike the NWP, may soon become much more navigable than before. Which attracts the unhealthy interest of our sworn partners, both commercially and politically.
      1. +4
        10 November 2019 17: 25
        I completely agree, but I probably used the word because it is not known for certain what kind of car it will be. Although, there is no doubt about her appointment either.
        1. 0
          10 November 2019 17: 50
          Consensus, however! good
      2. 0
        11 November 2019 02: 26
        So. Stop. Take a look. Is our NSR mainly in our guide wires? Correctly? Of course, there are sites outside their area, but mostly - according to ours. So how do they want to squeeze out the SMP ??? Something I do not understand apparently. Look, their vessel is rushing along the ice (if at all able), and here, on the one hand, are our thervods, on the other hand, impenetrable layers of ice! And what ?! They do not predict this ?! And what should they do ?! Will they call ashore to miss ??? Like - hey guys! We are super-Americans and we need to get through! Yes bring down as you want. Only without our icebreakers, and not our crackers! And what will they do ??? How do they survive that? Briefly so. So in the end, ladies and gentlemen! Explain to me an earthworm - how these half-asses gathered on SMP to flounder ??? It seems to me that this is all a bluff! (Well, like in poker)
        1. 0
          11 November 2019 18: 04
          Too lazy to paint in detail, look yourself on the net if you are interested in the topic; in short:
          civil commercial shipping is quite possible through the sea. But the NSR is a difficult place for shipping. And, in the opinion of the Americans, Russia is not able to provide assistance to ships that have problems passing the NSR. Therefore, it is necessary to give control over the NSR to the "international community", and, in general, this is a common property, and the evil Russians are trying to grab it for themselves.
          Something like this)))
  5. 0
    10 November 2019 16: 24
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: capsid
    Something very huge will be ..

    ... and with increased buoyancy ...

    Soon they will show the beast. Probably.
  6. -5
    10 November 2019 16: 27
    A piece of metal was sent to Alaska. Top news laughing

    Even BBMs from Hollywood films look more impressive))
  7. -4
    10 November 2019 16: 30
    I can also on mother-in-law a fur coat from a silver fox, put on a dress and upload a photo. This does not mean that she is a mother-in-law. They will test this miracle, they will write .. If they don’t lie, of course.
    1. -1
      10 November 2019 16: 39
      This does not mean that the mother-in-law is a man (
      1. +5
        10 November 2019 16: 43
        Of course it doesn’t. Mother-in-law is - Mother-in-law! -) For a creature, science to the end, not explored.
  8. +1
    10 November 2019 16: 38
    One of the features of this center is that in it military equipment is tested for efficiency in low-temperature conditions.


    There the greens will not be allowed to deploy there, but in general they are preparing to talk with us about the NSR.
    1. +3
      10 November 2019 17: 40
      There the greens will not be allowed to deploy there, but in general they are preparing to talk with us about the NSR.
      When the High Lords from Capitol Hill need something seriously, the Greens (as well as black, yellow, rainbow) go in small steps to a known address)))
    2. 0
      11 November 2019 02: 35
      These are green - whoever needs green. Who does not need - do not interfere.
      It’s time to know such common truths.
    3. 0
      11 November 2019 02: 40
      And not only their green ones, but also our green men. He wrote a little earlier - I don’t understand how they were going to butt with us ?! Here from the word - "absolutely"! On the one hand, OUR tervods and rockets - on the other, try breaking into the ice! The opinion of the layman. Never been to the north. Therefore, I do not pretend to be true! But ... my opinion has the truth to life. They will die there without us !!!
  9. -3
    10 November 2019 16: 45
    Apparently, this is the case of equipment, possibly a helicopter. But we will definitely find out after the end of the assembly. Let's not guess for now.
    1. +6
      10 November 2019 16: 52
      And note, about the file, even there is no question. )))
      1. -1
        11 November 2019 02: 37
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        about file

        Friction welding, they say recourse
  10. +4
    10 November 2019 16: 54
    Lumin (unlike steel) burns with a bright flame, however bully
    1. +1
      10 November 2019 17: 47
      Quote: Operator
      Lumin (unlike steel) burns with a bright flame, however bully

      In our BMP-3, the armor is aluminum. There is data on their combustion with a "bright flame"?
      1. +2
        10 November 2019 17: 53
        There is data on the ignition temperature of aluminum and its alloys in air (440 degrees Celsius) and the burned-out superstructure of the Sheffield destroyer after being hit by the Exocet anti-ship missile.
        1. -1
          10 November 2019 22: 47
          Quote: Operator
          There is data on the ignition temperature of aluminum and its alloys in air (440 degrees Celsius) and the burned-out superstructure of the Sheffield destroyer after being hit by the Exocet anti-ship missile.

          Steel tanks are also burning. Any technique is not safe from this.
          1. +2
            11 November 2019 03: 32
            Steel does not burn under normal conditions, filling is lit in tanks. And aluminum really burns in ordinary air.
        2. 0
          11 November 2019 18: 29
          Quote: Operator
          There is data on the ignition temperature of aluminum and its alloys in air (440 degrees Celsius) and the burned-out superstructure of the Sheffield destroyer after being hit by the Exocet anti-ship missile.

          * Double facepalm *
          Sheffield had a steel superstructure! Steel!
          Light alloys were used in the design of the FR of the previous types - on all "Ardent" and "Antilopes". And the EM "type 42" was designed just taking into account the fires on light-alloy ships in the 70s - and therefore they refused from light alloys at all on these EMs. The "Type 42" had another problem - they saved money on plastic finishes, which, as it turned out, turned out to be difficult, but still combustible. Moreover, it burned with the release of acrid black smoke, which made BZZh almost impossible.
          1. +2
            11 November 2019 19: 21
            Suppose so, but this does not cancel the above-mentioned ignition temperature of aluminum in air.
  11. +5
    10 November 2019 16: 57
    An interesting solution for welding and layout - with an obvious "design margin" made the body of a promising BMP! And I think that these are the butt surfaces of "aluminum armor" so simplified-straight and "angled", but what is it? smile

    Also, in Soviet times, at our plant there was a "trick" for friction butt welding - many friction clutches were burned on their universal screw-cutting lathes, gaining skills.
    I almost "missed the moment" docking-heating by friction-pressing-brake and everything is down the drain, but this is a "human factor", and if you automate the process or make mechanical devices, then very quickly and efficiently (it is important that immediately over the entire contact area of ​​the parts! ), it turns out very economically to connect round parts!

    Cases made of flat armor plates by friction welding will probably also turn out very quickly (MUCH faster and less energy and material costs than using electric arc welding machines ?!) to assemble "to a heap" with guaranteed quality of the weld ?!
    Armored hulls from prepared blanks will literally "bake like pies" - massively ?! What is this if not forced preparation for war ?!

    Apparently to check the "aluminum" welds under load, in conditions of ultra-low temperatures, the Americans are sending this armored hull for testing in the Arctic, where it is planned to combat new (also I agree that floating!) BMPs ?! winked
  12. 0
    10 November 2019 17: 01
    American alternative to European boxer?
    1. 0
      10 November 2019 18: 13
      Boxer on wheels.
      This case contours very much like the German “lynx” and the Swedish cv90.
  13. +6
    10 November 2019 17: 13
    Interestingly, while amers do not have decent size cameras in the research institute to simulate different climatic conditions?
    1. +1
      10 November 2019 17: 44
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Interestingly, while amers do not have decent size cameras in the research institute to simulate different climatic conditions?

      Well, that’s how our technology is being tested in various climatic zones - from the tundra to the desert. You won’t spend the whole complex in the cell. Weak, on the territory of the research institute to create conditions for driving on the summer tundra? wassat
      1. +4
        10 November 2019 18: 08
        For tankers - tests in real climatic conditions are carried out to confirm the declared characteristics in dynamics. For the product as a whole. To check any unit or unit, parts, there are test chambers in which the necessary climatic conditions are created. Now explain what driving conditions can you create a piece of iron (or what is it out of there) in the form of a body? A climatic chamber is enough for him, where all conditions are created from deserts and jungles to the North Pole. And when the product is assembled, with a chassis and other "gadgets", then it is possible to test in dynamics on nature wink
        1. +3
          10 November 2019 20: 21
          Now explain what driving conditions you can create a piece of iron (or what is it from) in the form of a body? A climate chamber is enough for him, where all conditions are created from deserts and jungles to the North Pole.
          Your comments are reasonable! But, as an example: a "piece of iron" will be picked up on the spot and shot at a very low temperature. Or, in general, it is more convenient to transport it in parts, but it will be assembled to the required form and configuration, again, on the spot.
          Who knows for sure? request
      2. +2
        10 November 2019 18: 26
        So they drive "products", but they don't carry the cases separately, the seams can be tested in the cell.
        1. +1
          10 November 2019 20: 22
          Answered above winked
          1. 0
            10 November 2019 20: 29
            Our time is everything
    2. -1
      11 November 2019 02: 48
      So I thought, “But what is Alaska not for them? And if you drive into the mountains? Identity is normal. So in Canada there is where to experience! ” Not. Something is wrong here. No wonder they drag them into the Arctic. So far the question is - what is wrong on the mainland ???
  14. +1
    10 November 2019 17: 28
    Quote: Rurikovich
    Interestingly, while amers do not have decent size cameras in the research institute to simulate different climatic conditions?

    Ingenious. Exactly. good hi
    1. +2
      10 November 2019 17: 33
      I also understand the finished product to be sent for lengthy tests ... And then the whole building fool smile hi
      1. +2
        10 November 2019 20: 12
        This is so that it does not work out, like in skakuasov))) APCs just crawled out of the factory and cracked
  15. +2
    10 November 2019 17: 49
    What is this Satanic machine ?! What will our tank building professionals say?! ...
    1. +1
      10 November 2019 18: 36
      AT-AT Corps (eng. All Terrain Armored Transport - all-terrain armored vehicles, VBT). Ferfy Quat Drive.
      1. 0
        10 November 2019 21: 44
        Star Wars - crap. No. Only Warhammer 40000 will give the correct answer. good
        1. 0
          11 November 2019 18: 35
          Quote: Private-K
          Star Wars - crap. No. Only Warhammer 40000 will give the correct answer. good

  16. +1
    10 November 2019 18: 09
    BTR or BMP tracked ..
  17. 0
    10 November 2019 19: 35
    Will the back door be airtight? and that somehow with buoyancy is not very
  18. +3
    10 November 2019 20: 11
    Let's hope that "the body of the combat vehicle is made on the basis of an ultra-light and super-strong aluminum alloy" has a good proportion of magnesium in its composition. Such an alloy burns - any-expensive)))
    1. 0
      11 November 2019 02: 52
      Yes, you can be sure! Not every day invent alloys.)))))
  19. +2
    10 November 2019 20: 31
    In, and no spies are needed, the bloggers did all the work for them. Bread beat off. smile
    1. 0
      10 November 2019 21: 04
      Yes, strike SMS or drop a photo. it’s not tapping on the radio))))
  20. -1
    10 November 2019 21: 02
    ... and will burn. probably better. than BMP 1-2 ........
  21. 0
    10 November 2019 22: 02
    some kind of layout)
  22. 0
    10 November 2019 22: 26
    Back in 2016, it was shown.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m6Tdnvx64c
    Sobsno new toy GD
  23. +2
    10 November 2019 23: 27
    In there will be a fool. Looks like the sauna stove inside the case was designed. laughing
  24. +1
    11 November 2019 00: 34
    1. Why such a high pier above the caterpillar? Judging by the location of the "ear" under the sloth, there will be a bare side wall a good foot high above the caterpillar.
    2. Why such a narrow body? The paratroopers will fit in one row - maximum.
    Something tells me that this is not a BMP, but a platform for engineering and so on. non-combat vehicles.
  25. +4
    11 November 2019 00: 44
    Quote: Piramidon
    Steel tanks burn too

    In steel tanks, only fuel and powder charges are burning (from the inside), while in aluminum tanks, the hull itself is also burning (from the outside).
  26. +1
    11 November 2019 01: 45
    in the subject will obviously ride or standing or lying! what
  27. 0
    11 November 2019 03: 54
    Another drowned man for the Pentagon .. Object for the development of taxpayer funds.
  28. 0
    11 November 2019 08: 02
    Why drum it north if you can carry out the same tests in an industrial refrigerator? They do this with cars.
  29. 0
    11 November 2019 08: 35
    Stopudova is a mobile toilet for military operations in the conditions of Siberia.
  30. 0
    11 November 2019 12: 10
    -Yes, this is some kind of component of some massive structure, and not any "hull of an unknown combat vehicle" ...
    -Maybe Americans dig an underground tunnel under the Bering Strait or build a bridge between some mountain peaks in Alaska ... or lay a giant pipeline; and this design is a mobile workshop in which the welding of pipe fragments takes place ...