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In the United States, they shot a body of an unknown combat vehicle prepared for shipment to Alaska

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American bloggers photographed the body of an unknown fighting vehicle (platform), which the U.S. Army was loading to send to Alaska.


In the United States, they shot a body of an unknown combat vehicle prepared for shipment to Alaska

Photo by Nathan White


It is noted that we can talk about the body of the latest combat vehicle, which is sent to the Test Center in Fort Greeley (Alaska). One of the features of this center is that in it military equipment is tested for efficiency in low-temperature conditions.

It is additionally noted that the body, in which special welding technologies were used, is going to expose to low-temperature influence. According to some reports, the body of the combat vehicle is made on the basis of an ultra-light and heavy-duty aluminum alloy (which concrete alloy is in question is not reported). But it is said that a promising combat platform with implemented technologies of CT Corporation (Concurrent Technologies) can be captured in the picture. This corporation deals with issues of materials science - they create special additives to various kinds of alloys, which ultimately expand the list of useful properties of the material. Also, corporation specialists use a special welding technology - friction stir welding.

It is noteworthy that in the 2017 year, according to the Defense Blog, CT received a contract from the Center for the Study of Armored and Automotive Engineering. The contract concerned research in the field of metal fatigue, ballistic characteristics of materials, and improving the efficiency of welds. The contract provides for the execution until September 27 2022 year.

Previously, the corporation noted that they possess technologies for creating light vehicles with high survivability.


Photo by Nathan White


Recently, a closed platform chassis test from CT was conducted. An explosion was carried out under the bottom, which in the end did not lead to the death of crew members. The tests were carried out according to the scheme of modeling the effects of an explosion on a person.

According to some reports, the corporation is busy creating the body of the NGCV combat vehicle, which should eventually replace the American Bradley. Experts note that when the hull of a promising combat vehicle is sold to the US Army, it is precisely "non-melting" welding that is used - welding, the heating of the material of which occurs due to friction.
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  1. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 November 2019 16: 13 New
    +8
    Judging by the appearance, something will be on the tracks, and the clearance is quite high, they will put them together, we will see.
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 10 November 2019 16: 33 New
      +12
      Transport for the north. The aluminum case means it will float, and it will climb ice floes.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 10 November 2019 18: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: Ros 56
        Judging by the appearance, something will be on the tracks, and the clearance is quite high, they will put them together, we will see.

        The wide top of a large "thickness" is characteristic of American amphibians.
        Larger sunroof for BMP
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 10 November 2019 23: 36 New
        +5
        You can swim without aluminum. These apparently decided to use aluminum for low temperatures. In severe cold weather, aluminum alloys are preferable to iron alloys.
    2. rich
      rich 10 November 2019 16: 38 New
      +16
      it looks like the EFV Expeditionary War Machine, the development of which the Americans spent 3 lard of greenery
      1. poquello
        poquello 10 November 2019 17: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: Rich
        it looks like the EFV Expeditionary War Machine, the development of which the Americans spent 3 lard of greenery

        and they didn’t have something like a shell before? I remember, back in the USSR, men when the Ratsukh had accumulated decently for many years, they got those from below and designed them in a new
        1. 210ox
          210ox 10 November 2019 17: 36 New
          +1
          Yes, this is generally similar to Strike.
      2. sedoj
        sedoj 10 November 2019 17: 42 New
        +8
        Quote: Rich
        looks like it is an EFV Expeditionary War Machine

        Judging by the types of feed, these are two completely different machines:

      3. Corn
        Corn 10 November 2019 18: 25 New
        +6
        Expeditionary combat vehicle EFV
        Hardly. There are no water cannons, the lower frontal part has a small angle of inclination and will give great resistance in water.
        There is probably a prototype created by the GCV program, as a replacement for the combined-arms BMP

        Something like that it looked in the pictures a few years ago.
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 November 2019 17: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      clearance is quite high

      “It”, it seems, is standing on some nightstands.
  2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 10 November 2019 16: 18 New
    +1
    Why unassembled?
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 10 November 2019 21: 20 New
      +11
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      Why unassembled?

      Probably because while they check the effect of low temperatures on the body and welds. Why assemble the whole machine if its body does not meet the necessary parameters? If everything is type top, then probably everything will be shoved into this building and hanged, so that sea trials would already be carried out.
      The main thing is that this cuttlefish wouldn’t go to the reindeer herder Beldyev’s reindeer herder, because after that the reindeer herder will have an aluminum shed for drying chum salmon.
  3. capsid
    capsid 10 November 2019 16: 18 New
    +5
    Something very huge will be ..
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 10 November 2019 16: 23 New
      +8
      Quote: capsid
      Something very huge will be ..

      ... and with increased buoyancy ...
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 10 November 2019 17: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Quote: capsid
        Something very huge will be ..

        ... and with increased buoyancy ...

        Does this mean that it does not sink? laughing good
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 10 November 2019 17: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Quote: capsid
        Something very huge will be ..

        ... and with increased buoyancy ...

        Everyone who sensibly discusses the topic of the article, plus me hi Seem to be. And it’s not just similar. And above the “Rich” video posted in the comments.
    2. Dude
      Dude 10 November 2019 17: 16 New
      0
      Quote: capsid
      Something very huge will be ..

      Some kind of battle mammoth, God forgive me! belay winked
    3. Tersky
      Tersky 10 November 2019 17: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: capsid
      Something very huge will be ..

      If the shooting angle is shifted a couple of meters ahead and crouched down IT will become simply gigantic. See the first picture at the beginning of the article, where this device is located on a platform for transportation, there you can more accurately determine its scale. hi
  4. novobranets
    novobranets 10 November 2019 16: 19 New
    +10
    It is noted that we can talk about the body of the latest combat vehicle, which is sent to the Test Center in Fort Greeley (Alaska). One of the features of this center is that in it military equipment is tested on low temperature performance.
    Judging by the stern, I would suggest that this is a new BMP. And tests at low temperatures, they say that the states may be preparing new equipment for the Arctic. NSR does not rest.
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 November 2019 16: 40 New
      +3
      Here - our SMP does not give them rest ...
    2. Dude
      Dude 10 November 2019 17: 22 New
      +4
      Judging by the stern, I would suggest that this is a new BMP. And tests at low temperatures, they say that the states, perhapsare preparing new equipment for the conditions of the Arctic. NSR does not rest.
      It seems to me, as if "perhaps" is superfluous here. One can speak with confidence about such preparation. The NSR, in contrast to the FFP, may soon become much more navigable than before. What attracts the unhealthy interest of our sworn partners, both in the commercial and in the military-political sense.
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 10 November 2019 17: 25 New
        +4
        I completely agree, but I probably used the word because it is not known for certain what kind of car it will be. Although, there is no doubt about her appointment either.
        1. Dude
          Dude 10 November 2019 17: 50 New
          0
          Consensus, however! good
      2. Alex bergman
        Alex bergman 11 November 2019 02: 26 New
        0
        So. Stop. Take a look. Is our NSR mainly in our guide wires? Correctly? Of course, there are sites outside their area, but mostly - according to ours. So how do they want to squeeze out the SMP ??? Something I do not understand apparently. Look, their vessel is rushing along the ice (if at all able), and here, on the one hand, are our thervods, on the other hand, impenetrable layers of ice! And what ?! They do not predict this ?! And what should they do ?! Will they call ashore to miss ??? Like - hey guys! We are super-Americans and we need to get through! Yes bring down as you want. Only without our icebreakers, and not our crackers! And what will they do ??? How do they survive that? Briefly so. So in the end, ladies and gentlemen! Explain to me an earthworm - how these half-asses gathered on SMP to flounder ??? It seems to me that this is all a bluff! (Well, like in poker)
        1. Dude
          Dude 11 November 2019 18: 04 New
          0
          Too lazy to paint in detail, look yourself on the net if you are interested in the topic; in short:
          civil terrestrial shipping is quite possible through the tervods. But the NSR is not an easy place for shipping. And, according to the Americans, Russia is not able to provide assistance to ships that have had problems with the passage of the NSR. Therefore, it is necessary to give control of the “international community” to the NSR, and, in general, this is the common property, and the evil Russians are trying to hog it to themselves.
          Something like this)))
  5. capsid
    capsid 10 November 2019 16: 24 New
    0
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: capsid
    Something very huge will be ..

    ... and with increased buoyancy ...

    Soon they will show the beast. Probably.
  6. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 10 November 2019 16: 27 New
    -5
    A piece of metal was sent to Alaska. Top news laughing

    Even BBMs from Hollywood films look more impressive))
  7. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 November 2019 16: 30 New
    -4
    I can also on mother-in-law a fur coat from a silver fox, put on a dress and upload a photo. This does not mean that she is a mother-in-law. They will test this miracle, they will write .. If they don’t lie, of course.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 10 November 2019 16: 39 New
      -1
      This does not mean that the mother-in-law is a man (
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 10 November 2019 16: 43 New
        +5
        Of course it doesn’t. Mother-in-law is - Mother-in-law! -) For a creature, science to the end, not explored.
  8. cniza
    cniza 10 November 2019 16: 38 New
    +1
    One of the features of this center is that in it military equipment is tested for efficiency in low-temperature conditions.


    There the greens will not be allowed to deploy there, but in general they are preparing to talk with us about the NSR.
    1. Dude
      Dude 10 November 2019 17: 40 New
      +3
      There the greens will not be allowed to deploy there, but in general they are preparing to talk with us about the NSR.
      When the High Lords from Capitol Hill need something seriously, the Greens (as well as black, yellow, rainbow) go in small steps to a known address)))
    2. Geo⁣
      Geo⁣ 11 November 2019 02: 35 New
      0
      These are green - whoever needs green. Who does not need - do not interfere.
      It’s time to know such common truths.
    3. Alex bergman
      Alex bergman 11 November 2019 02: 40 New
      0
      And not only their green ones, but also our green men. He wrote a little earlier - I don’t understand how they were going to butt with us ?! Here from the word - "absolutely"! On the one hand, OUR tervods and rockets - on the other, try breaking into the ice! The opinion of the layman. Never been to the north. Therefore, I do not pretend to be true! But ... my opinion has the truth to life. They will die there without us !!!
  9. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 10 November 2019 16: 45 New
    -3
    Apparently, this is the case of equipment, possibly a helicopter. But we will definitely find out after the end of the assembly. Let's not guess for now.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 10 November 2019 16: 52 New
      +6
      And note, about the file, even there is no question. )))
      1. Geo⁣
        Geo⁣ 11 November 2019 02: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        about file

        Friction welding, they say recourse
  10. Operator
    Operator 10 November 2019 16: 54 New
    +4
    Lumin (unlike steel) burns with a bright flame, however bully
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 November 2019 17: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      Lumin (unlike steel) burns with a bright flame, however bully

      In our BMP-3 armor is aluminum. There is evidence of their burning "bright flame"?
      1. Operator
        Operator 10 November 2019 17: 53 New
        +2
        There is data on the ignition temperature of aluminum and its alloys in air (440 degrees Celsius) and the burnt-out superstructure of the Sheffield destroyer after being hit by Exoset anti-ship missiles.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 10 November 2019 22: 47 New
          -1
          Quote: Operator
          There is data on the ignition temperature of aluminum and its alloys in air (440 degrees Celsius) and the burnt-out superstructure of the Sheffield destroyer after being hit by Exoset anti-ship missiles.

          Steel tanks are also burning. Any technique is not safe from this.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 11 November 2019 03: 32 New
            +2
            Steel does not burn under normal conditions, filling is lit in tanks. And aluminum really burns in ordinary air.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 11 November 2019 18: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Operator
          There is data on the ignition temperature of aluminum and its alloys in air (440 degrees Celsius) and the burnt-out superstructure of the Sheffield destroyer after being hit by Exoset anti-ship missiles.

          * Double facepalm *
          Sheffield had a steel superstructure! Steel!
          Light alloys were in the design of the FR of the previous types - on all sorts of "Ardent" and "Antilope". And the EM “type 42” was designed just taking into account fires on light-alloy ships in the 70s - and therefore light alloys were abandoned on these EMs altogether. “Type 42” had another problem - they saved on plastic trim, which, as it turned out, turned out to be difficult- but still combustible. Moreover, it burned with the release of caustic black smoke, which made the BZZH almost impossible.
          1. Operator
            Operator 11 November 2019 19: 21 New
            +2
            Suppose so, but this does not cancel the above-mentioned ignition temperature of aluminum in air.
  11. beeper
    beeper 10 November 2019 16: 57 New
    +5
    An interesting solution for welding and layout, with a clear "design margin" made the body of a promising BMP! And I think that these are the butt surfaces of the "aluminum armor" so simplistic, straight and "carbon", but what is it ?! smile

    Also, in Soviet times, we had a “go-ahead” for friction butt welding at our factory — many of the friction couplings were burned on our universal screw-cutting lathes, developing skills.
    I almost "caught the moment" docking-heating by friction-crushing-brake and all in vain, but this is a "human factor", and if you automate the process or make mechanical devices, it is very fast and high-quality (it is important that immediately over the entire contact area of ​​the parts! ), it’s very economical to connect round parts!

    Cases of flat armor plates by friction welding will probably also turn out very quickly (MUCH faster and less energy and materially expensive than with the help of electric arc welding machines ?!) to assemble “to the heap” with guaranteed weld quality ?!
    The armored hulls from prepared blanks will literally be “baked like pies” - massively ?! What is this if not forced preparations for war ?!

    Apparently, to test the "aluminum" welds under load, at extremely low temperatures, the Americans are sending this armored hull for testing in the Arctic, where the combat operation of new (also agree that floating!) BMPs is planned ?! winked
  12. Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 November 2019 17: 01 New
    0
    American alternative to European boxer?
    1. Corn
      Corn 10 November 2019 18: 13 New
      0
      Boxer on wheels.
      This case contours very much like the German “lynx” and the Swedish cv90.
  13. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 10 November 2019 17: 13 New
    +6
    Interestingly, while amers do not have decent size cameras in the research institute to simulate different climatic conditions?
    1. Dude
      Dude 10 November 2019 17: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Interestingly, while amers do not have decent size cameras in the research institute to simulate different climatic conditions?

      Well, that’s how our technology is being tested in various climatic zones - from the tundra to the desert. You won’t spend the whole complex in the cell. Weak, on the territory of the research institute to create conditions for driving on the summer tundra? wassat
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 10 November 2019 18: 08 New
        +4
        For tankers - tests in real climatic conditions are carried out to confirm the declared characteristics in dynamics. For the product as a whole. To test any unit or assembly, parts, there are test chambers in which the necessary climatic conditions are created. Now explain what driving conditions you can create a piece of iron (or what is it from) in the form of a body? A climate chamber is enough for him, where all conditions are created from deserts and jungles to the North Pole. And when the product will be assembled, with the chassis, etc. "lotions", then you can experience the dynamics in nature wink
        1. Dude
          Dude 10 November 2019 20: 21 New
          +3
          Now explain what driving conditions you can create a piece of iron (or what is it from) in the form of a body? A climate chamber is enough for him, where all conditions are created from deserts and jungles to the North Pole.
          Your comments are reasonable! But, as an example: a "piece of iron" will be picked up on the spot, and shot at a very-minus temperature. Or, in general, it is more convenient to transport it in parts, but they will be assembled, to the required type and configuration, again, on the spot.
          Who knows for sure? request
      2. Evil echo
        Evil echo 10 November 2019 18: 26 New
        +2
        So drive the "product", but the case does not carry separately, the seams in the chamber can be tested.
        1. Dude
          Dude 10 November 2019 20: 22 New
          +1
          Answered above winked
          1. Evil echo
            Evil echo 10 November 2019 20: 29 New
            0
            Our time is everything
    2. Alex bergman
      Alex bergman 11 November 2019 02: 48 New
      -1
      So I thought, “But what is Alaska not for them? And if you drive into the mountains? Identity is normal. So in Canada there is where to experience! ” Not. Something is wrong here. No wonder they drag them into the Arctic. So far the question is - what is wrong on the mainland ???
  14. Observer2014
    Observer2014 10 November 2019 17: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Rurikovich
    Interestingly, while amers do not have decent size cameras in the research institute to simulate different climatic conditions?

    Ingenious. Exactly. good hi
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 10 November 2019 17: 33 New
      +2
      I also understand the finished product to be sent for lengthy tests ... And then the whole building fool smile hi
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 10 November 2019 20: 12 New
        +2
        This is so that it does not work out, like in skakuasov))) APCs just crawled out of the factory and cracked
  15. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 10 November 2019 17: 49 New
    +2
    What is this Satanic machine ?! What will our tank building professionals say?! ...
    1. Evil echo
      Evil echo 10 November 2019 18: 36 New
      +1
      AT-AT Corps (eng. All Terrain Armored Transport - all-terrain armored vehicles, VBT). Ferfy Quat Drive.
      1. Private-K
        Private-K 10 November 2019 21: 44 New
        0
        Star Wars - crap. no Only Warhammer 40000 will give the correct answer. good
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 11 November 2019 18: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Private-K
          Star Wars - crap. no Only Warhammer 40000 will give the correct answer. good

  16. vvp2412
    vvp2412 10 November 2019 18: 09 New
    +1
    BTR or BMP tracked ..
  17. Avior
    Avior 10 November 2019 19: 35 New
    0
    Will the back door be airtight? and that somehow with buoyancy is not very
  18. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 10 November 2019 20: 11 New
    +3
    Let's hope that "the body of the combat vehicle is made on the basis of ultra-light and heavy-duty aluminum alloy" has a good proportion of magnesium in the composition. Such an alloy burns - it’s kind of expensive)))
    1. Alex bergman
      Alex bergman 11 November 2019 02: 52 New
      0
      Yes, you can be sure! Not every day invent alloys.)))))
  19. Catfish
    Catfish 10 November 2019 20: 31 New
    +2
    In, and no spies are needed, the bloggers did all the work for them. Bread beat off. smile
    1. Puhly67
      Puhly67 10 November 2019 21: 04 New
      0
      Yes, strike SMS or drop a photo. it’s not tapping on the radio))))
  20. Puhly67
    Puhly67 10 November 2019 21: 02 New
    -1
    ... and will burn. probably better. than BMP 1-2 ........
  21. opuonmed
    opuonmed 10 November 2019 22: 02 New
    0
    some kind of layout)
  22. Indeep
    Indeep 10 November 2019 22: 26 New
    0
    Back in 2016, it was shown.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m6Tdnvx64c
    Sobsno new toy GD
  23. Prisoner
    Prisoner 10 November 2019 23: 27 New
    +2
    In there will be a fool. Looks like the sauna stove inside the case was designed. laughing
  24. Mytholog
    Mytholog 11 November 2019 00: 34 New
    +1
    1. Why such a tall piers above the caterpillar? Judging by the location of the "ear" under the sloth, there will be a bare side wall above the caterpillar a good foot tall.
    2. Why such a narrow body? The paratroopers will fit in one row - maximum.
    Something tells me that this is not a BMP, but a platform for engineering and so on. non-combat vehicles.
  25. Operator
    Operator 11 November 2019 00: 44 New
    +4
    Quote: Piramidon
    Steel tanks burn too

    In steel tanks, only fuel and powder charges are burning (from the inside), while in aluminum tanks, the hull itself is also burning (from the outside).
  26. Evil Booth
    Evil Booth 11 November 2019 01: 45 New
    +1
    in the subject will obviously ride or standing or lying! what
  27. Evil 55
    Evil 55 11 November 2019 03: 54 New
    0
    Another drowned man for the Pentagon .. Object for the development of taxpayer funds.
  28. Journalist
    Journalist 11 November 2019 08: 02 New
    0
    Why drum it north if you can carry out the same tests in an industrial refrigerator? They do this with cars.
  29. Codavr
    Codavr 11 November 2019 08: 35 New
    0
    Stopudova is a mobile toilet for military operations in the conditions of Siberia.
  30. gorenina91
    gorenina91 11 November 2019 12: 10 New
    0
    - Yes, it’s some kind of component of some massive structure, and not a “corps of an unknown combat vehicle” ...
    -Maybe Americans dig an underground tunnel under the Bering Strait or build a bridge between some mountain peaks in Alaska ... or lay a giant pipeline; and this design is a mobile workshop in which the welding of pipe fragments takes place ...