Shipbuilding boom in Russia

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A new trend in the coverage of information: to talk not about what has been done in the country, but about what they are going to do, what plans are being built, what goals they are going to achieve. Or so: a few words about accomplished and a long monologue about goals and objectives.

Shipbuilding boom in Russia




If previously data of such a plan were usually presented: how many factories, ships, tanks, aircraft, machine tools and other things in the country created during the reporting period, now now more and more often sound the words of the following nature:

43 fishing trawler ordered in Russia. A program to stimulate the shipbuilding industry is working with the goal that ships are ordered not abroad, but at domestic shipyards.


Such a presentation of information would not raise questions if in the end the plans and goals coincided with the result by 100 percent. But, unfortunately, often orders have to be cut back already in the process of their implementation, abandoning certain targets, changing plans to more modest ones. Moreover, there are a lot of excuses: either a lack of funds, then their inappropriate spending by a specific contractor, or a change in the general concept.

A video based on the material from the site “Made with Us” tells about the “shipbuilding boom” in Russia. Tankers and fishing vessels are described as follows:

They go off the slipways like hotcakes.

An example is the construction of river dry cargo vessels and the scale of the market for commercial ships.

From video:

What are they only worth news about launching the largest icebreakers, I’m silent about military shipbuilding.

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  1. +12
    5 November 2019 13: 41
    We bet that the fish will not become cheaper and more affordable ?! And crabs too.
    1. -14
      5 November 2019 13: 49
      More affordable? already in every store there is a department with fish .... or are you available for live fish?
      1. +20
        5 November 2019 13: 54
        A good half of the population can’t afford the price of seafood.
        1. -13
          5 November 2019 14: 01
          You wrote - cheaper and more accessible - did you describe the same thing in two words?
          If seafood departments were opened in every grocery store, that means someone is buying, otherwise it would not be profitable to use, for this, retail space ...
          So speak for yourself - you cannot afford fish products - and it will be right! And there’s nothing offensive about it! It’s just that you earn little .. - it happens.
          1. +1
            5 November 2019 14: 23
            It's just that I don’t lift my nose in a shop with peacock importance, but I look at people. And, unlike you, I’m not only taking care of my womb.
            1. -1
              5 November 2019 14: 27
              Quote: lexus
              It's just that I don’t lift my nose in a shop with peacock importance, but I look at people. And, unlike you, I’m not only taking care of my womb.

              And whose nose should you bully in the store? And interestingly, coming to the grocery store - whose womb are you looking for? About the womb of the people you are looking at?

              Everyone thinks about the people, you do not take care of yourself, Yuri Venediktovich! Stop playing the saint! Better go to church.
              1. +5
                5 November 2019 14: 45
                Yuri Venediktovich!
                How cleverly you have transferred from pluses to pluses. The next time you say that no one came out to defend the USSR, remember how you then replaced concepts and gave false goals.
                1. -8
                  5 November 2019 15: 22
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  Yuri Venediktovich!
                  How cleverly you have transferred from pluses to pluses.

                  I translated? I told the truth as it is and didn’t lie that in the first comment, in the last ... and if there was no one to buy, the store would not take fish for sale, respectively - fish, someone buys and see quite a few , since the fish department was opened in every grocery, and even in a rural store .. but this character does not have money for fish - this is bad, but this does not say that half of the population does not have money for fish ...
                  But the USSR is really not one of the 20 million Communists, 400 thousand candidates, plus millions of Komsomol members, plus pioneers — no one came out to defend !! What have all been replaced by concepts? No! Just no one wanted to live like that anymore ....
                  1. +11
                    5 November 2019 17: 33
                    Quote: Nasr
                    Just no one wanted to live like that anymore ....
                    So, how Russia lives now, no one wanted to live either. Well, except for a handful of bureaucrats and their practical friends.
              2. +3
                6 November 2019 03: 49
                Quote: Nasr
                Yuri Venediktovich! Stop playing the saint! Better go to church.


                it drove you ... I think that you urgently need to go to the Senagogue for indulgence
          2. +7
            5 November 2019 15: 03
            "It's just that you don't earn much .. - it happens"
            And your nickname is shitty, and your little thoughts are rotten, and finally they’ve removed the asterisk from the tyubiteki ....
          3. +3
            6 November 2019 03: 45
            Quote: Nasr
            You wrote - cheaper and more accessible - did you describe the same thing in two words?
            If seafood departments were opened in every grocery store, that means someone is buying, otherwise it would not be profitable to use, for this, retail space ...
            So speak for yourself - you cannot afford fish products - and it will be right! And there’s nothing offensive about it! It’s just that you earn little .. - it happens.


            fully respected Solomon Izravilevich! then, sho in the shops did open seafood departments does not mean that most people began to live better.
            We still know that you and your SOPLEMNIKOV cannot live without a fresh little fungus. at Odessa import your brothers and sisters have been running after her from the very beginning. black caviar and red caviar are brought to you from the Far East. We don’t take offense at this, because you earn very well, it also happens ...
            it’s bad that your well-working tribesmen destroyed in Russia all industry and collective farms with state farms leaving most of the Russian people without work - and therefore without a livelihood. and we still left our children without a future ...
            this is called SILENT GENOCIDE.
            for this the future generation will ask you ...
            I suspect that you are in defense of the interests of the Kremlin, and get loot for it, but you must understand that you arouse the hatred of workers and retirees ...
          4. 0
            6 November 2019 11: 21
            He is not an economist and does not understand this, what do you explain to him
        2. +5
          5 November 2019 14: 27
          Quote: lexus
          A good half of the population can’t afford the price of seafood.

          As long as domestic fuel prices are determined by private individuals and heads of companies, and not by the state, while a host of energy-supplying companies (organizations) created under Chubais are speculating on electricity, nothing will appear at affordable prices in Russia (for residents with beggarly wages - about 20 )
          The fact that the production of civil courts has received a proper impetus is encouraging. If only this breakthrough would benefit the domestic seafood market, and not enrich the officials issuing quotas; private traders who received the rights to own property by the order of the authorities did not fill the "close" market of Japan and China ...
          1. 0
            5 November 2019 15: 14
            Quote: ROSS 42
            While domestic fuel prices are determined by private individuals

            Sechin and Miller are actually not private individuals. They are the authorities in Russia.
            1. +12
              5 November 2019 17: 35
              Quote: rzzz
              Sechin and Miller are actually not private individuals.
              And by coincidence, both are colleagues of a certain Putin in the Sobchak administration, who moved with him to Moscow, as soon as Sobchak was not chosen. And all of a sudden one became a prominent gas specialist, a second oilman. What is nepotism in the highest echelons of power ?!
              1. 0
                5 November 2019 18: 11
                You are wrongly building a hierarchy, a certain .... - just their subordinate on salary. Talking head. It will not be right to say - they will throw it over the fence and there will be a talking head with a different surname.
          2. -1
            6 November 2019 11: 21
            The market determines the price !!!)))
        3. +15
          5 November 2019 14: 46
          So that she (Fish) can afford it ... you need to solve Three questions!
          1. Catch quotas - with a binding sales rate in the territory of the Russian Federation.
          2. Logistics ... with the involvement of Russian Railways, the construction of refrigerated wagons, transportation benefits.
          3. Loading of existing and construction of new fish processing plants.
          Well, or we will eat Our Fish - in Chinese packaging.
          A complete silence on the topic - that IWASI returned to Our waters ... did someone on Myself feel this? Just ... We catch - They recycle.
          This is a huge amount of money ... and someone thought it was earned - for forty years, while Iwashi is in Our waters. am
          1. +4
            5 November 2019 17: 43
            Aleksey, your suggestions are quite sensible, but I'm afraid that everything was stolen and appropriated not for that, so that later on from the insane profits to refuse, to spend money and even "beat ourselves in hand".
        4. +8
          5 November 2019 14: 59
          "A good half of the population cannot afford seafood prices"
          especially on crab and shrimp
        5. -9
          5 November 2019 18: 00
          You do not look into the pockets of others. And do not answer for others - speak for yourself, you are not a deputy.
          1. 0
            6 November 2019 14: 47
            What do you hide in your pocket: nevermind? He looked into mine before writing like that, I see? In mine. I let him.
        6. -2
          5 November 2019 21: 43
          And in which country can everyone afford seafood (if it's not a fishing village on the seashore)? Have you ever seen what the "common people" eat in the US, UK?
          1. +3
            5 November 2019 23: 54

            https://nika-cleveland.livejournal.com/33154.html
            with their average salaries, there would be a desire to eat shrimp.
            but easier, probably, immediately sushi.
            1. +2
              6 November 2019 22: 47
              And what, is it really cheaper? Especially if you do not look at Moscow ... And by the way, what do you mean "their average salaries"? How much, clean?
      2. +6
        5 November 2019 14: 39
        Quote: Nasr
        More affordable? already in every store there is a department with fish .... or are you available for live fish?

        Yes, but not at all in every refrigerator there is at least sometimes a corner reserved for fish. Even for the dead.
    2. +4
      5 November 2019 13: 54
      Quote: lexus
      We bet that the fish will not become cheaper and more affordable ?! And crabs too.

      Naturally .. fishermen buy ships on credit, and ogogogo loans ... how much they cost .. it will be more expensive .. as usual. Our prices became cheaper only under Stalin, and then only in growth ..
      1. +3
        5 November 2019 14: 09
        Until the bureaucratic obstacles are removed, the fish does not wake up cheaper. For a day I heard the speech of one fish figure, 30 billion !!! fishermen pay for veterinary support a year. Moreover, the border service does everything so that our fish can be handed over a hill. Therefore, we are brought all sorts of artificially grown muck, and the price tag is more expensive than wild, and they themselves (foreign) prefer the wild. And trial is good.
        1. +7
          5 November 2019 14: 31
          Quote: lwxx
          Until the bureaucratic obstacles are removed, the fish does not wake up cheaper.

          Until the state bank of Russia and the treasury appear, and for private financial pyramids the new rules of speculative activity are not written, nothing will change. The financial system of Russia is precisely built into the finished Western, and not built for the needs of the country and society.
          Where and what are the financial flows you see for yourself.
    3. +4
      5 November 2019 13: 56
      Quote: lexus
      We bet that the fish will not become cheaper and more affordable ?! And crabs too.

      Probably right - the fish will not become cheaper and better.
      1. +7
        5 November 2019 14: 00
        Yes, that's right. I just did not paint. I had a chance to eat wild salmon. The one that is now in stores, Norwegian / artificial, does not cause any associations, except for the resident of the Red Light District, stuffed with silicone and other people's DNA.
    4. +16
      5 November 2019 13: 58
      I support you! some bans! trawl vessels are overloaded at sea, or "rod" all over the cordon! processing plants, ssrz were closed, not profitable! for that coal is loaded in an open way, timber with round timber! it's just TIN! wanted to breed a crab, they have not given it for the fifth year! everybody has bought up the mascots, everybody is making a mess, and they don’t invest ANYTHING, they only go bankrupt, take them out. I apologize, INCLUDED! hi
      1. +8
        5 November 2019 14: 06
        As far as I understood, these "pies" were tied to mandatory conditions for purchasing quotas. As a result, small artels will be "overboard", and the entire fishing industry will be in the same affiliated "tentacles".
        1. +9
          5 November 2019 14: 13
          Exactly! already. all over the BOARD! the last dock was hijacked, where no one knows! "prosper"
          1. -1
            6 November 2019 00: 12
            Quote: Far East
            the last dock was stolen, no one knows where!

            Doc from Sovgavan? So in Korea, he is in the port of Mokpo. The Koreans bought it as a dead man; it was unfit for work. Restored.
            1. +2
              6 November 2019 10: 05
              what year!? Yes, our company sold one of the docks from Gavani. Divers came, even from America I personally (we) provided them diving for three days, and they said GUD. the dock was built in Germany, the year of release I don’t remember either before the war or ........ ??? yes, they drove to Busan.a, this one was stolen last week! he hadn’t sailed before Korea! how do you say!
              1. 0
                6 November 2019 11: 39
                Your former Doc-14, our people, there, took a picture:
                https://fleetphoto.ru/vessel/40727/
                This is the one that was sold in 2012. And it is not very old, built in Kherson.
                1. +2
                  6 November 2019 12: 05
                  no! You took pictures of the docks of the 1st plant of the SSRZ; we had two factories.
                  1. 0
                    6 November 2019 12: 11
                    I didn’t take pictures, there are a lot of authors on the flip photo. My there are two dozen photographs only.
                    In general, one can emphasize a lot of useful information on photographs and comments, there are a lot of literate people sitting there.
                    1. +1
                      6 November 2019 12: 16
                      understandably! but no one argues about the professionalism of people! looked at the photo, there were only memories! as it was a long time ago! hi
        2. +4
          5 November 2019 14: 36
          Quote: lexus
          and the entire fishing industry will be in some affiliated "tentacles".

          Found this:
          1. +5
            5 November 2019 14: 42
            I already wrote that Olga Bay is located more than 500 miles from the North Korean territorial waters. Sakhalin is closer. And the Sea of ​​Japan in this area is divided into exclusive economic zones of Russia and Japan (the width is already less than 400 miles). Where do they fish? Certainly not in the Japanese zone.
    5. +11
      5 November 2019 14: 13
      How will seafood become cheaper if the catch is sold in China, the South Caucasus and Japan.
      From there, it enters the Russian Federation in the form of products and semi-finished products.
      It got to the point of absurdity - red caviar in Moscow is cheaper. Than in Vladivostok.
      1. +4
        5 November 2019 15: 42
        Quote: knn54
        It got to the point of absurdity - red caviar in Moscow is cheaper. Than in Vladivostok.

        Well, about 8 years ago, mother-in-law from Germany brought red caviar made in the Russian Federation ... it came out cheaper than in the Russian Federation ...
    6. Ham
      -7
      5 November 2019 14: 27
      Quote: lexus
      We bet that the fish will not become cheaper and more affordable ?! And crabs too.

      here, after all, as - the main thing is to quickly throw all the positive with compost
    7. -5
      5 November 2019 15: 09
      Fool with her, with fish. The main thing is that people have work, which means the industry lives on. Specialists need to prepare half their lives, but you can lose in one day.
    8. +2
      6 November 2019 03: 23
      Quote: lexus
      We bet that the fish will not become cheaper and more affordable ?! And crabs too.


      Definitely will not!

      "If previously data of such a plan was usually provided: how many factories, ships, tanks, aircraft, machine tools and other things in the country were created during the reporting period, now"

      I don't know how many factories and machine tools have been built, only now hundreds of thousands of factories, enterprises, factories, kindergartens, villages have been destroyed and destroyed by the Russian government and its "assistants" after 91 ...

      Russia is "hammered" (from the word "bomb") according to the Zionist expression into the Stone Age
  2. +6
    5 November 2019 13: 42
    In Russia, the shipbuilding boom ... and in Tatarstan they are going to transfer KamAZ for a three-day period .. BOOM ... BOOM
    1. +1
      5 November 2019 13: 52
      In Russia, the shipbuilding boom

      Separate "cakes". Compared with real "hot cakes" of the USSR.
      http://soviet-trawler.narod.ru/main_r/front_r.html
      I personally didn’t count, but less than 1000 definitely will not.
      1. +9
        5 November 2019 13: 59
        And if you read only "Made with us" on the Internet, watch only the 1st and 2nd channels on TV and at the same time do not go out, then you can quickly be sure that everything is fine and wonderful here ...
        1. -8
          5 November 2019 14: 06
          It is strange that you are aware of what is shown on TV channels 1 and 2 and "Made by us"! You don't watch them! wassat Although everyone, with the details, you know .. bully
          Conclusion: Torment and yet watch? good
      2. +12
        5 November 2019 14: 18
        Yes, there was a fleet, but swam away! previously in three sides were BMRT BATM PR. You can list for a long time! what BASES used to be! eeehh!
    2. -14
      5 November 2019 13: 53
      Quote: Svarog
      In Russia, the shipbuilding boom ... and in Tatarstan they are going to transfer KamAZ for a three-day period .. BOOM ... BOOM

      It seems that such news about KAMAZ gives you pleasure ... although an article about sea vessels ...
      1. +7
        5 November 2019 14: 05
        Quote: Nasr
        Quote: Svarog
        In Russia, the shipbuilding boom ... and in Tatarstan they are going to transfer KamAZ for a three-day period .. BOOM ... BOOM

        It seems that such news about KAMAZ gives you pleasure ... although an article about sea vessels ...

        You’ve mistaken the impression that if it brought me pleasure, I wouldn’t write at all the mess that was going on here, but would enjoy ..
        1. -16
          5 November 2019 14: 09
          Quote: Svarog

          You’ve mistaken the impression that if it brought me pleasure, I wouldn’t write at all the mess that was going on here, but would enjoy ..

          Writers write ... Are you a writer? Have you tried to work? All day you sit in tyrnet and "write" exclusively on economic, social topics ... when do you have time to create surplus value?
          1. +7
            5 November 2019 14: 53
            Sit all day in tyrnet
            As if looking in a mirror
            1. -17
              5 November 2019 15: 42
              Quote: Gardamir
              Sit all day in tyrnet
              As if looking in a mirror

              Looks like I "hit the bull's eye", since Svarog sends a lawyer ... the lawyer is really weak, his whole speech, like this one - "The radish itself!"
              And if you look at the dates and the number of comments, then ....... yes, in other matters, and so it is clear who the "writer" is! ...
              1. +9
                5 November 2019 16: 29
                Quote: Nasr
                Looks like I "hit the bull's eye", since Svarog sends a lawyer ... the lawyer is really weak, his whole speech, like this one - "The radish itself!"
                And if you look at the dates and the number of comments, then ....... yes, in other matters, and so it is clear who the "writer" is! ...

                Some kind of baby talk .. lawyers .. We are all here to comment on the articles and our attitude to them .. and what is happening around us .. (and you are doing the same ...)
                Writers write ... Are you a writer? Have you tried to work?

                Have you tried to work or are you working now? No need to teach me what and when to do and how to write or comment ..
    3. -9
      5 November 2019 13: 59
      you do not confuse days of idle time and a three-day? especially paid.
      1. +10
        5 November 2019 14: 04
        Quote: carstorm 11
        you do not confuse days of idle time and a three-day? especially paid.

        Paid? Where did you see that the capitalist would pay money when there are no orders? The fact of the matter is that unpaid ..
        1. -5
          5 November 2019 14: 22
          the fact of the matter is that paid. read their statements. 2/3 of the salary these days the payment will be. and it wasn’t worth touching the KAMAZ which last year had more than three billion net profit. and more than 30000 trucks sold. their difficulties are now quite predictable. switching to Euro 5, etc.
    4. +1
      5 November 2019 14: 11
      Are you a pessimist? - the money has been allocated for shipbuilding and maybe it will be mastered
      BUILDING PHYSICALLY THE TURN IS OTHER.
      profit in rubles is considered, and you get in rubles \ dollars s \ pl and not in Kamaz \ pcs,
      And in rubles, PROFIT is considered. retarded you element
    5. -6
      5 November 2019 15: 23
      Which of the sane will buy KAMAZ for transportation? There are trucks much more interesting. And more qualitatively.
  3. DPN
    +12
    5 November 2019 13: 53
    Previously, we dreamed about space and flew, like on a motor ship along the Volga, please for 55 rubles with a salary of 120 rubles. For 22 days everything is included and without any boom. Now at 30000 r you can not twitch horseradish succeed. This boom on the rivers is not noticeable, and already 30 years have passed.
    1. -3
      5 November 2019 14: 36
      You are not right about the boom - dry cargo vessels bake like pies, prepare to increase cargo flow, minus seasonality, plus cheaper than railway, major major cities on large rivers, plus a shipping channel through Iran from the Caspian to the Persian Gulf in the future (competitor to Suez) including breathing life into Central Asia - nothing happens from scratch, for everything it takes time (they just don’t boast) ...
    2. 0
      6 November 2019 11: 15
      Quote: DPN
      like on a ship on the Volga please for 55 rubles

      I must say that most of these steamships operated on transport lines - an analogue of modern trains, then the transport infrastructure was weaker, and steamers provided. Parking was maximum 2 hours in large cities, where bunkering and loading the "base", and on smaller marinas - from 5 to 30 minutes. That is, especially not to walk. There was also a minimum of entertainment., Cinema in the evenings. But it was possible to go between any two piers, for short trips tickets were sold "without a seat". Tickets were sold on board.
      And river cruisers began to appear at the end of 70 only.
  4. -4
    5 November 2019 14: 17
    The lead patrol icebreaker of project 23550 "Ivan Papanin" was launched. Some media outlets claim that this icebreaker will also be armed with cruise missiles of the Caliber family, they talk about an air defense missile system plus Two Raptor-class high-speed combat boats, which are designed to pursue violators of sea borders and boarding operations, and a Ka-27 helicopter will be based on board in the hangar. Also, the ship will be based on the project 23321 Manul hovercraft ... autonomy 60 days, range 6 thousand nautical miles
  5. +2
    5 November 2019 15: 17
    Author, do not rock the boat. We are fine!
  6. -2
    5 November 2019 17: 24
    Pregnant pensioners were already whining about "it would be better if the fish cost less" or not? ...
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  9. +7
    5 November 2019 17: 32
    In my opinion, the “Made with us” channel is such trolling, sarcasm. Or just stupid brainwashing for idiots.
  10. +3
    5 November 2019 20: 11
    Boom spotted again! This is rather good than bad. The main thing is that the Boomers do not end up on the side of the holiday of life.
    * A new trend in the coverage of information: to talk not about what has been done in the country, but about what they are going to do, what plans are being built, what goals they are going to achieve. Or so: a few words about accomplished and a long monologue about goals and objectives. *
    No, well, here I probably will not agree. And categorically. It is always a good idea to understand what our tasks are, what are our plans for the future and what we are going to achieve. Based on this understanding, we begin to think what to do and how to deal with it. And also, what we need for a successful fight. How else, without planning and setting goals for the future?
    1. -8
      5 November 2019 21: 15
      It seems that there are only rogues on the site, they don’t eat fish, they haven’t tried meat for ten years, but they don’t build ships, planes don’t fly, they eat the last hedgehogs and snakes in the woods and swamps
  11. -4
    6 November 2019 00: 24
    By the way, I say hello to all skeptics and neoliberals, those from whom the FSE will be stolen! Coming from a business trip from a new steamer on a train! The plant works, some workshops in three shifts! Another steamer will soon start its maiden voyage.
    1. 0
      6 November 2019 10: 09
      share it! shaw, for the factory, the ship! without sarcasm.
      1. +1
        6 November 2019 11: 36
        Sormovo and Navashino. At two plants was.
  12. kig
    0
    7 November 2019 00: 51
    North Ship Repair Plant (SSRZ), previously SRZ No. 1, plant No. 263 - a ship repair company in the city of Sovetskaya Gavan, Khabarovsk Territory. Since 1992 - JSC Northern Ship Repair Plant (JSC SSRZ). It went into operation in 1943. In 2002, declared bankrupt and ceased to work.

    Status today:



    A great place to shoot movies on the theme of the post-apocalypse.
  13. kig
    0
    21 December 2019 01: 53
    I'm already silent about military shipbuilding.
    That's for sure. It’s better to keep silent.