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US Confusion: 36 percent of middle-aged Americans support communism

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The results of a recent survey of the American Foundation for the Memorial of the Victims of Communism (VCMF) are published. The survey was dedicated to threats in the modern world.


US Confusion: 36 percent of middle-aged Americans support communism


One of the questions in the course of a sociological study was posed as follows: “Who is the greatest threat to world peace?” It should be noted right away that the survey was conducted exclusively among American citizens.

For the first time in this kind of sociological survey, the US president came first. Donald Trump was considered the main threat by 27 percent of VCMF respondents. The five "leaders" were the heads of the DPRK, Russia, China and Venezuela. So, Vladimir Putin (he has “3 place”) considers “15% of those polled by the American organization” to be the main threat to world peace, and Kim Jong-un - 22%.

Another question was whether Americans from the so-called “millennials” generation (usually called people born no earlier than 20 years before the new millennium (year 1981 and above), and no later than 1996 years) are ready to vote for the socialists. It turned out that 20% of respondents are definitely ready to vote for socialist forces in the USA, while 50% of respondents called such a vote “quite probable”.

Next is an even stronger blow to those who continue to fight communism in the United States: for the first time in recent years, only 57% of Americans under the age of 40 stated that the United States Declaration of Independence better guarantees equality, rights and freedoms than the Communist manifesto. The rest do not think so. This is despite the fact that even years 20-25 ago such indicators were impossible to imagine.

36% of Americans of the above age support the ideas of communism.

This result confused the survey organizers. Executive Director Memorial to the Victims of Communism Foundation Marion Smith declared "historical amnesia "in Americans of young and middle age:

The historical amnesia about the dangers of communism and socialism is fully reflected in this year's report.

The same Ms. Smith announced that more and more Americans are ready to accept Marxist ideas, as "they are not told about the 100 millions of victims of the Communists in the 20 century."

Marion Smith:

We must redouble our efforts to tell the youth of America about the history of the communist regimes and the present dangers of socialism.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 November 2019 15: 40
    +55
    100 million victims of communism? Strong!!! Hollywood screenwriters hired, rewrite history?
    1. TAMBU
      TAMBU 4 November 2019 15: 44
      +23
      over a generation, granddaughter Smith will talk about 3 billion in the blue eye ...
      1. Cut Samshitov
        Cut Samshitov 4 November 2019 15: 49
        +34
        Quote: TAMBU
        over a generation, granddaughter Smith will talk about 3 billion in the blue eye ...

        Well, why, after a generation. Our demshiza since the time of the "redrawing" about a billion that Stalin personally disrupted is screaming.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 4 November 2019 15: 58
          +37
          36% of Americans of the above age support the ideas of communism.

          This result confused the survey organizers. The Executive Director of the Memorial to the Victims of Communism Foundation, Marion Smith, said of “historical amnesia” among young and middle-aged Americans:

          36% in the USA is on the condition that all kinds of propaganda of communism are blackened there .. and if the ideas of communism were actively promoted in society?
          Both in America and around the world, the idea of ​​communism is still strong. And the farther, the more in demand it will be, for capitalism has completely outlived itself and as ideology carries only destruction in itself ..
          1. 210ox
            210ox 4 November 2019 16: 49
            -1
            No, just the inhabitants of Amerz saw a new (or forgotten for the older generation) and clicked for it. lol
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 4 November 2019 16: 59
              +12
              Quote: 210ox
              No, just the inhabitants of Amerz saw a new (or forgotten for the older generation) and clicked for it. lol

              Such surveys are conducted in America quite often and 36% is not the highest indicator, in 2017, they conducted a similar survey, though it was not about communism but socialism, so according to this survey, 54% of young Americans would like to live under socialism ... So for the young generation of Americans, socialism is not something new, but rather an idea that is fairer and more relevant in the mediocre capitalist world .. Any resources are finite and when 90 or more percent of these resources belong to a narrow group of people, it is clear that 90% of the world's population , such a situation cannot suit ... But they are silent and do not understand this only by people for whom capitalist propaganda brainwashed ..
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 4 November 2019 19: 57
                +6
                Quote: Svarog
                Quote: 210ox
                No, just the inhabitants of Amerz saw a new (or forgotten for the older generation) and clicked for it. lol

                Such surveys are conducted in America quite often and 36% is not the highest indicator, in 2017, they conducted a similar survey, though it was not about communism but socialism, so according to this survey, 54% of young Americans would like to live under socialism ... So for the young generation of Americans, socialism is not something new, but rather an idea that is fairer and more relevant in the mediocre capitalist world .. Any resources are finite and when 90 or more percent of these resources belong to a narrow group of people, it is clear that 90% of the world's population , such a situation cannot suit ... But they are silent and do not understand this only by people for whom capitalist propaganda brainwashed ..

                Well, in our country, in fact, the whole country is silent.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 4 November 2019 20: 32
                  +3
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Well, in our country, in fact, the whole country is silent.

                  We have enough brainwashed people, but after the pension reform and other "gifts", the realization is slowly coming ...
                  1. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 4 November 2019 20: 51
                    +3
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Well, in our country, in fact, the whole country is silent.

                    We have enough brainwashed people, but after the pension reform and other "gifts", the realization is slowly coming ...

                    Ok, wait, we'll see).
              2. Oleg (Kharkov)
                Oleg (Kharkov) 4 November 2019 21: 44
                +5

                alas, there are few of them.
                Although, there were even fewer Bolsheviks at one time.
                I would like to say that we are unlikely to live, but I remembered the phrase "We, the old people, may not live to see the decisive battles of this coming revolution ..."
                Therefore, who knows ...
              3. Saxahorse
                Saxahorse 4 November 2019 23: 22
                +3
                Quote: Svarog
                in 2017, we conducted a similar survey, though it was not about communism but socialism, so according to this poll, 54% of young Americans would like to live under socialism ...

                And this is after 100 years of fierce, anti-Soviet propaganda ..
          2. Lexus
            Lexus 4 November 2019 17: 13
            +2
            And the farther, the more in demand it will be, for capitalism has completely outlived itself, and as ideology carries only destruction

            Vladimir, no matter how paradoxical it may sound, their local billionaires (Bezos, Gates and others) live rather modestly compared to the "newcomers". And in the tops of the owners of palaces, the largest personal yachts and airplanes do not appear. It is quite logical that under this "music" the fight against illicit enrichment will be launched all over the world and will thoroughly "shake" numerous Deripasoks and Abramovichs. I think so. $ 23 trillion debts seem to be obliged.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 4 November 2019 17: 17
              +3
              Quote: lexus
              It is quite logical that under this "music" the fight against illicit enrichment will be launched all over the world and will thoroughly "shake" numerous Deripasoks and Abramovichs. I think so. $ 23 trillion debts seem to oblige.

              It would not hurt to shake our officials to this "music" too .. not the United States, but our government, so that the money can be returned to the treasury .. but I understand that this is a utopia because our government will not shake itself ... and the United States is possible shake our thieves .. and replenish their budget .. but our sycophants are not afraid .. they still steal .. while they give ..
              1. Aerodrome
                Aerodrome 4 November 2019 17: 20
                +5
                Quote: Svarog
                It would not hurt to shake our officials to this "music" too .. not the United States, but our government, so that the money could be returned to the treasury .. but I understand that this is a utopia because our government will not shake itself ...

                it will be "self-shaking" ... belay
            2. Katanikotael
              Katanikotael 4 November 2019 19: 42
              +3
              Remembering the scandal about the headquarters of one of the American corporations worth $ 200, one can hardly believe in the modesty of their billionaires. Straight humanitarian aid parcel sometimes I want to send.
          3. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 5 November 2019 17: 08
            -2
            the idea of ​​communism is a new religion. The results are obvious, the system does not work, everywhere decline, dictatorship and totalitarian regime.
          4. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 6 November 2019 11: 01
            0
            Quote: Svarog
            36% in the USA is on the condition that all kinds of propaganda of communism are blackened there .. and if the ideas of communism were actively promoted in society?

            Urgent, clone Lenin and send to the States!
      2. cost
        cost 4 November 2019 15: 52
        +3
        And what is this link at the end of this article?

        Kim Jong Il passed away eight years ago
        1. The popuas
          The popuas 4 November 2019 16: 26
          +2
          Link for 13 years ... why did you see only Kim !? He also wrote in Russian a report on the result of the survey -2013
        2. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 4 November 2019 16: 26
          +4
          To remember who turned the opinion of the United States before it became mainstream)
        3. The comment was deleted.
        4. sabakina
          sabakina 4 November 2019 19: 23
          +16
          Quote: Rich
          And what is this link at the end of this article?

          Kim Jong Il passed away eight years ago

          Dima, everything is fine!
          1. poquello
            poquello 5 November 2019 01: 26
            +2
            Quote: sabakina
            Quote: Rich
            And what is this link at the end of this article?

            Kim Jong Il passed away eight years ago

            Dima, everything is fine!

            no, well it's super *********************************************** *********
            1. Alexey LK
              Alexey LK 5 November 2019 06: 48
              +2
              Yes, a shot with Lenin - fly away !!!!! You can surpass if you can only add a signature, that the case is happening in Leningrad laughing
      3. knn54
        knn54 4 November 2019 15: 57
        +3
        And they will say that the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were dropped by Russians
        1. TAMBU
          TAMBU 4 November 2019 16: 14
          0
          yeah ... the Chinese ... they fought with them, so they dumped them ... and in general it’s time for them ... that ...
      4. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 4 November 2019 20: 47
        +6
        Quote: TAMBU
        over a generation, granddaughter Smith will talk about 3 billion in the blue eye ...

        You can say anything you want. Here our liberota so diligently ironed Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin for 25 years that, to her great amazement, she discovered that the growth of his authority among Russians during these 25 years has almost doubled. Americans can also blow in their ears about the unviability and bloodthirstiness of communism, but if they know that communist China is the largest creditor to the United States and the most important partner in terms of trade, then they naturally have doubts about what propaganda is driving, and there are thoughts about that everything is not so bad with the communists. Scary mattresses are overkill in everything. Europe is already tired of being afraid of Russia's "aggression" and is beginning to slowly kick away from a common strategy with Washington and is inclined to look for ways to abandon sanctions. "Oatmeal sir" and "Cola" already got everyone and people just want fried pork and schnapps.
      5. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 4 November 2019 23: 40
        0
        Granddaughter Marion Smith will be the Secretary General of the CPSU. The rule of the United States will be the Presidium of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the United States, the Senate and the Congress of the United States will be dissolved ... The children of the granddaughter M. Smith will live under Communism ...
      6. Alexey LK
        Alexey LK 5 November 2019 06: 43
        0
        A generation will believe that Sarah Connor saved 3 billion people laughing
    2. den3080
      den3080 4 November 2019 15: 47
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      100 million victims of communism? Strong!!! Hollywood screenwriters hired, rewrite history?

      Yes, she also studied according to Goebbels manuals, so 100 million, even not enough somehow. Need more.
    3. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 4 November 2019 15: 59
      +2
      Most of these 100 ml are China and Cambodia (and generally Southeast Asia) - victims of the extremes of communist ideology in which they are undeniable. Famine and class terror come in. In general, it’s stupid to count the victims. Smarter than achievements
      1. poquello
        poquello 5 November 2019 01: 44
        +1
        Quote: Ken71
        Most of these 100 ml are China and Cambodia (and generally Southeast Asia) - victims of the extremes of communist ideology in which they are undeniable. Famine and class terror come in. In general, it’s stupid to count the victims. Smarter than achievements

        but please give me the numbers, I thought there too, but I’m not picking it up, it’s a fish with such eyes
        1. Kenxnumx
          Kenxnumx 5 November 2019 20: 53
          0
          The black book is called, I don’t remember the numbers. Something around 55 - 60 million, mainly from hunger
          1. poquello
            poquello 5 November 2019 21: 11
            +1
            Quote: Ken71
            The black book is called, I don’t remember the numbers. Something around 55 - 60 million, mainly from hunger

            oooh, holodomooooor))))))))))), and Polpot, by the way, the French supported
            1. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 5 November 2019 21: 17
              -1
              Yes, they experimented in China. However, there are a lot of them. Cambodia experiments cost more. Famine in the USSR also came out in several million. You can not eat anything for two weeks and you will not be so funny.
              1. poquello
                poquello 5 November 2019 21: 29
                +1
                Quote: Ken71
                Yes, they experimented in China. However, there are a lot of them. Cambodia experiments cost more. Famine in the USSR also came out in several million. You can not eat anything for two weeks and you will not be so funny.

                yes yes, but in RI there was a crop failure - the tsar began to be to blame, it’s ridiculous not from history but from its interpretation, for 100 million is obviously too much
                1. Kenxnumx
                  Kenxnumx 5 November 2019 21: 33
                  -1
                  Do not confuse the crop failure and errors of incompetent management. Of course, 100 million is too much, but it will be easier for you from the fact that it will be 85,5 million or 69,3. It is sad that ideological dogmas lead to mass deaths. And this is not only about communism.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 5 November 2019 21: 38
                    0
                    Quote: Ken71
                    it will be easier for you from the fact that it will be 85,5 million or 69,3

                    there will be, China will be -15-30 million, Kampuchea-3-6 million, the remaining 6-10
                    1. Kenxnumx
                      Kenxnumx 5 November 2019 21: 44
                      -2
                      That's what the black book - where did 100 million come from, was easy to find by the way
                      - USSR: 20 million killed;
                      - China: 65 million killed;
                      - Vietnam: 1 million killed;
                      - North Korea: 2 million killed;
                      - Cambodia: 2 million killed;
                      - Eastern Europe: 1 million killed;
                      - Latin America: 150 thousand killed;
                      - Africa: 1 million killed;
                      - Afghanistan: 1, 5 million killed;
                      Again. The number is not important. Even your almost 50 million are terrible. This is almost equal to the victims of WWII and much more victims of WWII.
                      1. poquello
                        poquello 5 November 2019 21: 49
                        +1
                        Quote: Ken71
                        That's what the black book - where did 100 million come from, was easy to find by the way
                        - USSR: 20 million killed;
                        - China: 65 million killed;
                        - Vietnam: 1 million killed;
                        - North Korea: 2 million killed;
                        - Cambodia: 2 million killed;
                        - Eastern Europe: 1 million killed;
                        - Latin America: 150 thousand killed;
                        - Africa: 1 million killed;
                        - Afghanistan: 1, 5 million killed;
                        Again. The number is not important. Even your almost 50 million are terrible. This is almost equal to the victims of WWII and much more victims of WWII.

                        judging by the first line, this book can already be hung in the toilet for wiping, and there is no sense in counting and comparing, in Kampuchea, by the way, 3 million and in the book 2 million - who is the author?
                      2. Kenxnumx
                        Kenxnumx 5 November 2019 21: 54
                        -2
                        Type in the Internet "Black Book of Communism Stephane Courtois"
                        I flipped through now - it gives decryption, calculation methods. I hope I should not post quotes for you. If you are so hooked by the numbers - you can read it, maybe your disbelief will be shaken. Or maybe not. So far, your reaction is not reasonable but emotional.
                      3. poquello
                        poquello 5 November 2019 21: 57
                        0
                        Quote: Ken71
                        Type in the Internet "Black Book of Communism Stephane Courtois"
                        I flipped through now - it gives decryption, calculation methods. I hope I should not post quotes for you. If you are so hooked by the numbers - you can read it, maybe your disbelief will be shaken. Or maybe not. So far, your reaction is not reasonable but emotional.

                        uh, there are comrades who count to you 100 million killed during the period of perestroika-post-perestroika, and also with numbers, with statistics and calculation methods
                      4. Kenxnumx
                        Kenxnumx 5 November 2019 22: 04
                        +1
                        Just let's not confuse the unborn and the dead or the dead. I clearly distinguish between these concepts. If for someone there is no difference, then it remains for him to wish to feel this difference.
                      5. poquello
                        poquello 5 November 2019 22: 11
                        0
                        Quote: Ken71
                        Just let's not confuse the unborn and the dead or the dead. I clearly distinguish between these concepts. If for someone there is no difference, then it remains for him to wish to feel this difference.

                        when the "calculation method" unites, there is no difference, all this is common onion husk, suitable for dyeing eggs, as a food product has no value
                      6. Kenxnumx
                        Kenxnumx 5 November 2019 22: 18
                        0
                        As you wish. I gave a tip - then your interest. By the way, onion peel is used in folk medicine :))
    4. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 4 November 2019 16: 00
      +3
      Ms. Smith, I just liked this round and memorable figure. Americans' conclusion has become bad with memory
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty 4 November 2019 17: 01
      +3
      We need to immediately start bombing in the United States massively those states that do not fit into the American worldview ... lol
    6. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 November 2019 17: 16
      +8
      Quote: Mountain Shooter

      100 million victims of communism?

      Rather, the victims of imperialism.
    7. DPN
      DPN 4 November 2019 21: 18
      0
      why hire, Russian will be invited for a penny, only business.
    8. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 4 November 2019 21: 21
      +1
      Of these, twenty million are victims of Nazi Germany and their allies.
    9. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 5 November 2019 17: 04
      0
      100 million victims of communism? Strong!!! Hollywood screenwriters hired, rewrite history?

      Easily with China, Paul Then, etc.
    10. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 6 November 2019 22: 55
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Hollywood screenwriters hired, rewrite history?

      They have been rewriting for a long time. And have long been hired ...
  2. Sergey39
    Sergey39 4 November 2019 15: 40
    +3
    Probably they are attracted by Chinese-type socialism.
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 4 November 2019 16: 12
      +12
      People lived under capitalism and understand that the majority of US residents have no prospects, from the word at all ... So they are looking for an alternative. And there is only one alternative so far - SOCIALISM ....
  3. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 4 November 2019 15: 48
    +8
    And the truth, as always, is somewhere in between. One thing is certain - the concentration of basic goods in the hands of a handful of wealthy people - the most severe injustice. But this is all the contradictions.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 4 November 2019 20: 07
      +3
      Quote: Lena Petrova
      And the truth, as always, is somewhere in between. One thing is certain - the concentration of basic goods in the hands of a handful of wealthy people - the most severe injustice. But this is all the contradictions.

      Poorly studied subject.
      “... the question is only like this: bourgeois or socialist ideology. There is no middle ground (for no humanity has developed a “third” ideology, and indeed in a society torn by class contradictions, there can never be an extra-class or super-class ideology). Therefore, any derogation of socialist ideology, any deviation from it, means thereby strengthening the bourgeois ideology. " V.I. Lenin, if that.
      1. Lena Petrova
        Lena Petrova 4 November 2019 20: 52
        +4
        You can offer a bunch of compromises:
        Business, entrepreneurship is possible, but only small and medium. Revenues only to a certain limit (well, say - $ 100 million, - the rest is absolutely superfluous for a person). Can be regulated by progressive tax. All large, city-forming enterprises are state-owned only. Subsoil, land, - only state. All posts are elective, with a decent salary. Every year, re-election. There should not be any Sechin-Millerovsky incomes. Or for less there are no more candidates to work? Who invented such salaries? Are they the owners? Ordinary hired managers.
        No major inheritance of conditions — minimum for life — let them earn the rest. With your head. Serious punishments for all kinds of falsifications, financial fraud, embezzlement. The allowance until the full repayment of the stolen. No, sit for life, or don’t steal.
        The ban on any increase in energy prices - gas, e. energy, fuel, etc. All increases are just a consequence of raising prices for them. Etc. etc.
        1. Mcar
          Mcar 5 November 2019 01: 07
          0
          Quote: Lena Petrova
          You can offer a bunch of compromises:
          Business, entrepreneurship is possible, but only small and medium.

          This is permissible only for the transitional phase from capitalism to communism - socialism.

          He is a business like a dinosaur - he has been growing all his life. Growing or dying, no third. As soon as you slightly open the door for business, very quickly it takes you out the window. As soon as you allow the business to stir up something small, you know - the time will come when he will open the door of the city-forming plant with his foot. And then, at his discretion, what to do with the enterprise is to bankrupt, sell for scrap, make a shopping center. With all the consequences for the city and the people living in it. Then he will drag, lobby for the laws he needs and will head the administration of the territory.

          However, I can only rejoice those who do not represent themselves as anything except entrepreneurs - such a transition period can be very long, maybe several decades. So, even if the transition to socialism, as the lower phase of communism, begins tomorrow, there will be enough opportunity to try something for your life.
        2. Alexey LK
          Alexey LK 5 November 2019 06: 56
          +1
          He especially smiled: "All posts are elective ... Every year - re-election." Have you ever managed something? In many cases, it takes years to just get to the bottom of the matter ... He looks like Sharikov.
          1. Lena Petrova
            Lena Petrova 5 November 2019 07: 11
            +2
            Well, these are conditional terms, of course. But a person doesn’t have to manage sports today, and tomorrow an oil refinery, for example. And no life is enough to delve into.
        3. Siberian54
          Siberian54 5 November 2019 13: 21
          0
          first, in our legislation, the inheritance was returned by 75% (I don’t remember exactly) gosudarstvo .. then the Duma thought that they were mortal (and it happens suddenly) and left the state 13%
        4. vvnab
          vvnab 6 November 2019 12: 37
          0
          Can be regulated by progressive tax

          This is the catch. Who will regulate? Bourgeoisie? Bees versus honey? These will adjust ...))
          Small business is possible, but only in a transitional period and subject to a defeat in the rights of owners of private capital, albeit small. Those. lack of suffrage, the right to free education, etc. As it was in Soviet Russia in 1918-1936. In short, private business is permissible, but only if the dictatorship of the proletariat is introduced. With the preservation of the system of bourgeois democracy, no change is possible. Even if the power changes and new people come, after some time everything will return to the same.
  4. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 November 2019 15: 49
    0
    So, this is a poll among naive American citizens!
    It's easy for them: So, Vladimir Putin (he has "3rd place") is considered "the main threat to world peace" by 15%, and Urfin Juice and his wooden soldiers may be in fourth place!))
  5. Pavel57
    Pavel57 4 November 2019 15: 50
    +1
    I wonder how the Americans know about the manifesto.
    1. Ravik
      Ravik 4 November 2019 15: 56
      +6
      They even know about the US Declaration of Independence! This is more surprising.
  6. Operator
    Operator 4 November 2019 15: 50
    +6
    The ghost of communism has landed on the North American continent laughing
    1. dauria
      dauria 4 November 2019 16: 59
      +2
      The ghost of communism has landed ...


      In Europe, you will die of starvation, and all sorts of Arabs, what communism with them. What the hell did they fly to the USA. There are now unemployed in the third generation. They live, hang around the country back and forth. And all for the allowance. wassat So the ghost decided to wander around the States with them.
      1. Operator
        Operator 4 November 2019 18: 05
        +1
        They begin to dream of communism after a defeat in the Cold War in this case. Dreams naturally flow into the Civil War - Democrats, Latinos and African-Americans against yuppies.
  7. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 November 2019 15: 54
    +7
    36% of Americans support the idea of ​​communism ...
    Just a question, but do they even understand all these theories?
    For most, communism is probably associated with "everything for free."))
    1. Mcar
      Mcar 4 November 2019 16: 20
      +14
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Just a question, but do they even understand all these theories?

      It doesn’t matter if they understand it or not. It is important that many begin to understand that capitalism has already begun to kill. Not to develop, as it was at the beginning of its formation, but to kill.

      You have to admit, you don’t have to have a lot of intelligence to understand - something is wrong when at the same time, in the same place, millions have no roof over their heads and millions of empty homes, millions die of hunger and millions of tons of food are destroyed. It is also unnatural to walk backwards. And some are already beginning to understand this.
  8. DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO 4 November 2019 15: 57
    +3
    That is the reason why the mattresses - ,, democrats "began to crumble the loaf on the CCP (before the Chinese Communist Party did not care about them, only trade graters), they again try to level the ideological infection. There is nobody else to blame but the DPRK is too closed to bring law-abiding Americans out of the way of democracy. Unless as an example, how ,, the starving communists of the last hedgehog eat up ,,
    1. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 4 November 2019 16: 41
      +1
      It doesn't matter how the DPRK is strongly closed there, Trump personally, and the Americans in general, will approve of any aggression in order to prolong their "comfortable" life. Hear what these poor Americans on the street are saying. They have no roof, no food, and America is still the greatest and freest for them.
  9. Ham
    Ham 4 November 2019 16: 03
    +7
    This despite the fact that even 20-25 years ago such indicators were impossible to imagine.

    well, here’s an example ... 30-25 years ago, the stupid anti-communist propaganda in the Country of Victorious McCarthyism ended ...
    It took 20 years for something to fly out of people's heads that propaganda drove them into there intensely ...
    most likely the next enemy will be "red" China (Pompeo has already spoken out here the other day) and, accordingly, we are waiting for a new witch hunt ... who will raise the fallen banner of Joseph McCarthy?
    But in fact, all this shows the complete ideological impotence of the United States - except for how to fight the "red threat" they cannot think of anything else! so they carry this stroller
  10. NF68
    NF68 4 November 2019 16: 06
    0
    This is what Russian propaganda in the United States means. And all of them, 3 of a million equestrian Buryat divers who have gained combat experience in eastern Ukraine.
    1. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 21: 18
      -1
      Quote: NF68
      This is what Russian propaganda in the United States means.


      Is Russia promoting socialism? belay
      1. NF68
        NF68 5 November 2019 18: 36
        0
        Quote: Good_Anonymous
        Quote: NF68
        This is what Russian propaganda in the United States means.


        Is Russia promoting socialism? belay


        It is best to ask the US State Department about this. They won't lie there. All the "truth" after the falsehood will be laid out on a silver platter.
        1. Good_Anonymous
          Good_Anonymous 5 November 2019 20: 50
          0
          Quote: NF68

          Is Russia promoting socialism? belay


          This is best asked at the US State Department.


          It is strange that just recently you were so vigorously discussing Russian propaganda, as if you yourself knew something about it.
  11. Polymer
    Polymer 4 November 2019 16: 10
    +8
    The same Ms. Smith announced that more and more Americans are ready to accept Marxist ideas, as "they are not told about the 100 millions of victims of the Communists in the 20 century."

    Nobody counted this or told them about the victims of capitalism. Then Marxist ideas would support 70-80 percent.
    And then, what kind of "historical amnesia" can Americans have if the Communists have never been at the head of the United States? By the way, for the Shtatovites themselves, it should be quite natural to conclude that all their troubles stem from capitalism, since they never had another system.
  12. Mcar
    Mcar 4 November 2019 16: 13
    +6
    US Confusion: 36 percent of middle-aged Americans support communism

    And what was the confusion in all feudal countries, when the percentage of those who supported the ideas of capitalism also reached tens of percent.

    No wonder. Only the uneducated or powerfully stubborn can "get mixed up". Communism is just the most natural formation for Homo sapiens. Humanity lingered in capitalism because of the morally low desires of an insignificant handful of cannibals, whose power rests solely on colored pieces of paper. People are starting to understand this. And it pleases.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 5 November 2019 11: 10
      0
      But very slowly!
  13. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 4 November 2019 16: 17
    -1
    Historical amnesia (repeated attack on the rake) necessarily comes in three or four generations (75-100 years).
    "What if this new thing is good? We must try!"
    A new one is a well-forgotten old one. sad
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 4 November 2019 16: 39
      +4
      There was no communism in America yet. So they are far from such "amnesia". And they still remember from the Great Depression ...
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 4 November 2019 16: 47
        -3
        Amnesia is international. The experience of their ancestors is ignored through generations. And the experience of other nations - and even more so. Unfortunately, Nazism and various fascisms and communisms will also return. And all sorts of radical religions. And even the Inquisition, perhaps.
        It's unavoidable. Spiral...
        Question: will they be allowed to turn around in breadth as with Hitler, or will they crush quickly. As did ISIS. Or localize sharply - as the Taliban did.
        1. Good_Anonymous
          Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 21: 20
          -1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Unfortunately, Nazism and various fascisms and communisms will also return.


          But feudalism, feudalism will return?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 November 2019 21: 27
            0
            Both feudalism and the slave system periodically pop up.
            again under a variety of slogans.
            And the latifundia of the oligarchs of South America and
            "Great People's Buildings", etc. - options
            this.
            1. Good_Anonymous
              Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 21: 44
              -1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              And the latifundia of the oligarchs of South America and the "Great People's Buildings", etc. are variants of this.


              And, latifundia - it turns out to be feudalism ... understandably.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 4 November 2019 22: 51
                +2
                Of course. These are not farms in Europe and the USA. In latifundia of South America
                recruited employees forcibly and retained with the help of the military.
                The latifundist did not pay the obligatory tax per meter of land, as European landowners did. With the help of a land tax, feudalism was destroyed in Europe.
                1. Good_Anonymous
                  Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 23: 02
                  -2
                  Quote: Good_Anonymous
                  And, latifundia - it turns out to be feudalism ... understandably.
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Of course



                  No. Read on Wikipedia what feudalism is. Hint: no, this is not a "large land tenure". Otherwise, you will have to consider the US a feudal country.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 4 November 2019 23: 08
                    +2
                    The issue is not the area, but the status of employees and tax
                    to the ground. Many landowners in Russia owned small
                    land plots but were real
                    feudal lords (considered - for clarity - the period AFTER the abolition of serfdom)
                    1. Good_Anonymous
                      Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 23: 13
                      -1
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      The issue is not the area, but the status of employees and land tax


                      The question is, what are "latifundia" and "feudalism". It seems that you both have your own definitions, which do not coincide with the generally accepted ones.
                      1. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 4 November 2019 23: 21
                        +1
                        The essence of terms change over the centuries of history.
                        For example, slavery in the southern United States in
                        19th century was very different
                        from slavery in ancient Egypt. Range
                        in 5 thousand years of human
                        stories. But, nevertheless, both there and there
                        it was slavery.
                        No other terms were invented.
                      2. Good_Anonymous
                        Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 23: 23
                        -1
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        The essence of terms change over the centuries of history.


                        Naturally, we are talking about the modern generally accepted definitions of "latifundia" and "feudalism".
                    2. Town Hall
                      Town Hall 5 November 2019 00: 00
                      0
                      The defining characteristics of feudalism are by no means the land and the status of wage earners.
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 4 November 2019 20: 13
      -1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Historical amnesia (repeated attack on the rake) necessarily comes in three or four generations (75-100 years).
      "What if this new thing is good? We must try!"
      A new one is a well-forgotten old one. sad

      And long ago, in America, socialism was in order to the gabli, huh?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 4 November 2019 21: 30
        +1
        They step not only on their rake, but also on the rake of their neighbors
        and competitors.
  14. 1970mk
    1970mk 4 November 2019 16: 31
    +1
    And why rejoice? The fact that in the Russian Federation communism and socialism is not why? Because we have wild capitalism?
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 4 November 2019 17: 57
      -8
      Wild capitalism makes a person work, and not passively wait for the manna from heaven.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 4 November 2019 18: 10
        +6
        Quote: Ronald Reagan
        Wild capitalism makes a person work, and not passively wait for the manna from heaven.

        nonsense, everything is easier ..
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 4 November 2019 20: 22
        +3
        Quote: Ronald Reagan
        Wild capitalism makes a person work, and not passively wait for the manna from heaven.

        Any capitalism makes a person survive. And yes, someone works (for an uncle, because he gets a penny from the product), and someone is involved in drugs and prostitution, who simply rob - because it is easier to survive, and there are not enough jobs for everyone. Why do we need this?
        1. Ronald Reagan
          Ronald Reagan 4 November 2019 23: 31
          -1
          It’s too late to ask such questions, since you already live with such a system.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 5 November 2019 17: 14
            -1
            Quote: Ronald Reagan
            It’s too late to ask such questions, since you already live with such a system.

            Well, nothing lasts forever under the moon, as they say, and the current system is no exception drinks
        2. kalibr
          kalibr 5 November 2019 11: 06
          -1
          Quote: Doliva63
          Any capitalism makes a person survive. And yes, someone works (for an uncle, because he gets a penny from a manufactured product), and someone is involved in drugs and prostitution, who simply rob - because it’s easier to survive,


          Who do you work for?
  15. meandr51
    meandr51 4 November 2019 16: 35
    +2
    She's lying, they are all told. And the greater the amount of propaganda, the less they believe. Here is a paradox. I noted this in the USSR. So we will see real Communists in Washington and socialist Hollywood who will fight with the bourgeoisie of imperialist Russia.
  16. Berkut24
    Berkut24 4 November 2019 16: 36
    +4
    It seems that in 1991, the Americans launched a tricky operation in Russia only to be the first to survive to communism ...
  17. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 4 November 2019 16: 38
    +1
    = We must redouble our efforts to tell the youth of America about the history of the communist regimes and the present dangers of socialism. =
    Yes .., but "tell something" can be different ... I can imagine what this illiterate lady will tell.
  18. Klingon
    Klingon 4 November 2019 16: 41
    +3
    let’s better calculate how many victims they made to the world by introducing their lifestyle
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  20. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 November 2019 16: 50
    +9
    Why the article? In Russia, everyone in power hates communism, socialism. justice. In this hatred, they again stand in solidarity with their partners.
    and then, as someone said, here, the longer I live under Putin, the more I respect Stalin.
    1. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 4 November 2019 21: 38
      +1
      I support, as someone said: `` ... what the communists lied to us about for so long turned out to be true ... ''
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 November 2019 00: 17
      -2
      Quote: Gardamir
      as someone said here

      Yes, what heresy you can’t read here. wassat
  21. Mimoxod
    Mimoxod 4 November 2019 17: 11
    +2
    Socialism itself is not bad in theory, but in practice it was perverted by the notorious "Human Factor".
    For his triumph, not an "evil genius" but a "genius of virtue" is needed, although it will not be possible to achieve victory in a capitalist environment with one virtue without violence and blood, people with large capitals will never voluntarily give them up for the good of society and will desperately resist. ..
  22. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 4 November 2019 17: 19
    0
    for Hollywood !!!! In 2117, the Aurora was bought in the United States with funds from the rail companies in Russia and disguised as an American aircraft carrier was delivered to Washington. After a salvo from the combat laser of the disguised Aurora, Negroes, Latinos and Anglo-Saxon sexy take the White House, and rename the USA as the SOCIALIST states of America, the International becomes the anthem. The main leader of the communists, Trotsky, and his associates Putin, Kim Un Jong and descendants of Saddam and Gaddafi oppose American values. Portraits of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Fedel Castro are printed on the dollar. But a lone hero appears who saves not only the American people, but the whole world. Finale: the main character John throws a red banner with the image of Trotsky onto the white snow and sticks an ice ax into this image, after which he begins to sing the US anthem, a little girl (a symbol of reviving America) begins to sing along with him from torches to his hand, like the destroyed statue of American Liberty, then it is supported by other people who are becoming more and more, and now - over the entire planet it sounds MUCH - America, America is a great country .... Continuation (not from me - from Hollywood) follows !!!!
  23. Jerk
    Jerk 4 November 2019 17: 27
    -4
    Note - don't be confused. It's like a "liberota", for example here - on this site entrenched. There is a slogan, not a meaning, they do not even understand. what is communism
  24. Basarev
    Basarev 4 November 2019 17: 44
    -3
    I fully admit this, if I mean normal evolutionary communism, and not Soviet false start. Marx's prophecy comes true: the most industrialized countries of the West are the first to come to communism, they come right before our eyes.
  25. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 4 November 2019 17: 46
    +1
    This is how you read and listen to various researchers and take the scumbag. It turns out that if in the United States the genuine will of the people was taken into account in the elections, then it would have long lived in developed socialism ... belay
    Social justice is in demand in any society with any economic structure. The idea of ​​building communism is closer to utopia. Socialism is a real economic formation capable of performing miracles of transformation and excluding a parasitic existence on the scale of capitalism and banking speculation ...
    1. Nikalab
      Nikalab 4 November 2019 18: 47
      -1
      It turns out that if in the United States the genuine will of the people was taken into account in the elections, then it would have long lived in developed socialism ...
      This will is taken into account, just the majority of local socialists / communists perceive these two things as magic that will make everyone rich and successful at once, and not as a method of redistributing the country's GDP. Americans understand that magic does not exist and more and more taxes will come along with left-wing forces. And here there is such a situation, a person who worked hard to get a good education, highly qualified work does not live much better than the marginal alcoholic who works as a cleaner, whom he maintains at his own expense.
    2. Jerk
      Jerk 4 November 2019 18: 47
      -2
      You will forgive, but in this case the conversation is NOT about socialism at all. For example, if you don’t remember what society is, it’s NOT important here, it’s important to wait a long time, like a sick person is warming, but just the society is poorer, the opinion of one person is important, and even if he’s a genetic person, greetings to the same person
      1. Nikalab
        Nikalab 4 November 2019 19: 24
        +1
        In this case, I spoke about the economic part of the left movement.
        Gretta, etc. is a separate topic, namely SJW. These are the ultra-left who have gone who have a lot of influence in the United States, (especially in the media), in short, they believe that there are constantly oppressed people - disabled people, blacks, gays, trances, women. And they need to be given preferences. This is where gay pride parades, job quotas for people of color, etc. come in. But it is impossible to conduct a parade of straight people - this is already fascism for them, because the oppressed cannot oppress the oppressors. Therefore, Greta is given a platform for her tantrums, because she is "oppressed" and she needs to speak out.
        1. Jerk
          Jerk 4 November 2019 21: 51
          -1
          Yes, that's how to tell you. The trouble is that there is a substitution of concepts, and in concepts ... Well, how to say. people swim a lot. Vaughn - look below - the nickname "good ononymus". Just interrogate him about Scandinavian socialism - oh, he will proononate! And then ask him - WHAT IS socialism - and I am sure he will or will NOT answer. or blurt out a quote from pedivikia, for example. And if you bend him. that the extreme currents - ultra-right (communism) and ultra-left (anarchy, democracy in full development) - are one and the same ... Then you will see eyes like cancer. Him
          Well, what can they say for socialism? Or democracy?
    3. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 21: 22
      0
      Quote: ROSS 42
      It turns out that if in the United States the genuine will of the people was taken into account in the elections, then it would have long lived in developed socialism ...


      No, actually. Most are there for capitalism. Even the Democrats have only one socialist candidate (out of 3-4 leaders).
    4. Mcar
      Mcar 5 November 2019 01: 23
      +1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The idea of ​​building communism is closer to utopia.

      So the ideas of building capitalism were close to utopia in the opinion of a considerable number of people at one time. And bourgeois revolutions, by the way, shed blood more than one socialist coupled with a civil war.
  26. kalibr
    kalibr 4 November 2019 17: 50
    0
    Quote: McAr
    Agree, you don’t need a lot of mind to understand - something is happening wrong,

    Alexander! Understand - no need, right. But VERY MUCH MIND needs to be done correctly. We were not a country of fools, but it didn’t work out. To know that your world is bad and to be able to create a new one are two different things.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 4 November 2019 20: 35
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      Quote: McAr
      Agree, you don’t need a lot of mind to understand - something is happening wrong,

      Alexander! Understand - no need, right. But VERY MUCH MIND needs to be done correctly. We were not a country of fools, but it didn’t work out. To know that your world is bad and to be able to create a new one are two different things.

      You write nonsense, comrade former political worker. Everything turned out for us. But the Second World War really crippled. It was conceived to break us and stop us. If it’s not a war with the entire cap. Europe (the Russian Federation will master such a thing today?), Right now capitalism would only be on the English Channel. May be.
      1. Good_Anonymous
        Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 21: 24
        -1
        Quote: Doliva63
        If there is no war with the whole cap.Europe


        Well, there Spain with Portugal, all sorts of France and Poland there. But have you fought with Britain?
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 4 November 2019 22: 23
          +1
          Quote: Good_Anonymous
          Quote: Doliva63
          If there is no war with the whole cap.Europe


          Well, there Spain with Portugal, all sorts of France and Poland there. But have you fought with Britain?

          I did not fight, my father fought.
          And what, without Britain, Europe is not Europe? And for some reason you forgot the other countries of Europe that fought against us (this is not about you, if that). Shpakovsky whom you defend is the same Yakovlev, Gaidar, Chubais, Yeltsin - a degenerate for the sake of money. I would say more specifically, but censorship will not miss. Judas, remember, about 30 pieces of silver? This same historian. There was still Volkogonov, remember? If not, don’t answer, I can’t help you more than spit in my face.
          1. Good_Anonymous
            Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 22: 39
            0
            Quote: Doliva63
            And what, without Britain, Europe is not Europe?


            Even without Britain, Europe is not "all cap. Europe".

            Quote: Doliva63
            And for some reason you forgot the other countries of Europe that fought against us (this is not about you, if that).


            I didn’t fight, so I didn’t take it personally. And no, I have not forgotten other countries. But all the countries of Europe taken together, which fought against the USSR, were still far from being "the whole cap. Europe."

            Quote: Doliva63
            Shpakovsky whom you defend


            I don’t even know who it is. I defend reality (not that it needed it, but still).

            Quote: Doliva63
            I can’t help you more than spit in my face.


            This is the Internet - you cannot even help it. smile
        2. T.Henks
          T.Henks 5 November 2019 09: 16
          0
          We fought. Crimean War. 1853 - 1856.
          1. Good_Anonymous
            Good_Anonymous 5 November 2019 10: 59
            0
            Quote: T.Henks
            Quote: Good_Anonymous
            Quote: Doliva63
            WWII really crippled. It was conceived to break us and stop us. If there is no war with the whole cap.Europe

            Well, there Spain with Portugal, all sorts of France and Poland there. But have you fought with Britain?
            We fought. Crimean War.


            Have you tried to look smart? It would be better not to try.
    2. Mcar
      Mcar 5 November 2019 01: 39
      +1
      Vyacheslav, why do not you leave a comment directly under? If I didn’t look at the whole discussion thread the next day, I wouldn’t see that you’re talking to me.

      Quote: kalibr
      Quote: McAr
      Agree, you don’t need a lot of mind to understand - something is happening wrong,

      Alexander! Understand - no need, right. But VERY MUCH MIND needs to be done correctly. We were not a country of fools, but it didn’t work out. To know that your world is bad and to be able to create a new one are two different things.

      Everything was done quite correctly with us, if we talk about the engine of any formation, about the economy.

      If Khrushchev had not put his sly but absolutely illiterate nose into the economy, then it would have pulled us out of any swamp. It was so well arranged. That's just a LOT of MIND is not necessary to spoil everything.

      You know how, after the Second World War, we annually reduced prices. Only this alone indicates that the economy worked perfectly. After all, these were not handouts from the master's table, as is sometimes happening now. These were the results, the fruits of a filigree-tuned mechanism. If you have not heard anything about the Stalinist Method of Increasing Efficiency (MPE), which was destroyed by Khrushchev, then I strongly recommend that you study at least this one: http://svoy-put.ru/ekonomika/stalin-iv1458853645/metod-povesheniia-effektivnosti- truda-mpe-v-stolinskoi-ekonomike
  27. kalibr
    kalibr 4 November 2019 17: 52
    0
    Quote: Mimoxod
    For his triumph, not an "evil genius" but a "genius of virtue" is needed, although it will not be possible to achieve victory in a capitalist environment with one virtue without violence and blood, people with large capitals will never voluntarily give them up for the good of society and will desperately resist. ..

    Very true! Bogdanov wrote about this almost in the same words in the novel RED STAR in 1908. Lenin criticized him, but it turned out according to Bogdanov, and not according to Lenin. If you did not consider this novel - read
  28. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 4 November 2019 18: 08
    +4
    The most interesting thing is that in the USA there is still a communist party.
    As of 2008, the party’s program states that capitalism through the monopoly power of corporations uses sexism, national chauvinism, homophobia, anti-Semitism and anti-communism in order to divide the working class and its allies.
    The first paragraph of the party program:
    Workers all over the world strive for a life without war, exploitation, inequality, and poverty. They strive to build a bright future based on democracy, peace, justice, equality, cooperation and meeting the basic needs of man. This future is socialism, a system in which workers manage their own lives and destinies and together build a better world. The US Communist Party is dedicated to the struggle for socialism in this country. This document is the program of our Party, the statement of our goals and objectives, as well as a guide to action on the way to the Socialist United States of America.
    Moreover, after the beginning of perestroika in the USSR, US Communist Party severed relations with the CPSU due to disagreement with the Gorbachev course.
    By the way, because of the dogmatism of the leadership, Angela Davis left the US Communist Party, and now she has her own organization for socialism.
    1. Saxahorse
      Saxahorse 4 November 2019 23: 31
      0
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      The most interesting thing is that in the USA there is still a communist party.

      Today, Russia also allegedly has a communist party ..
  29. kalibr
    kalibr 4 November 2019 18: 19
    +2
    Quote: meandr51
    So we will see real Communists in Washington and socialist Hollywood who will fight with the bourgeoisie of imperialist Russia.

    Our peasant wrote in a newspaper in 1927 that "America will come to socialism through a machine" ...
  30. nikolai.kolya
    nikolai.kolya 4 November 2019 19: 00
    -11
    90% of Russians favor capitalist values, and so what?
    1. nikolai.kolya
      nikolai.kolya 4 November 2019 20: 40
      0
      Good luck to everyone in supermarkets, online stores, etc., etc.
      1. Yura
        Yura 4 November 2019 21: 21
        +5
        Cons were for it
        Quote: nikolai.kolya
        90% of Russians favor capitalist values, and so what?
        Because this is not true, 90% of Russians understand why what happened, what happened and the reasons for this. 90% of Russians dream of communism, but for everyone, and not just for those who rule. I, too, are among them, by the way I didn’t set a minus for you.
        1. nikolai.kolya
          nikolai.kolya 4 November 2019 21: 24
          0
          If such a percentage, then why is the country not communist?
          1. Yura
            Yura 4 November 2019 21: 36
            +2
            Everything is simple here, including me and I don’t see those who are capable and worthy, who without guile will defend the interests of the people, who go to power with the goal of building communism, and not the career of their party and themselves, respectively. The party, even though it calls itself, even if it’s Communist, but sponsored by capitalists and oligarchs in particular, will inevitably lobby their interests.
  31. Aliken
    Aliken 4 November 2019 20: 35
    0
    Learn a better history of the colonization of North America.
  32. DPN
    DPN 4 November 2019 21: 22
    0
    They drank such a FLAG Banner with Yeltsin! and the truth is what you can’t do with a drunk.
  33. kalibr
    kalibr 4 November 2019 21: 29
    -2
    Quote: Doliva63
    Kaby

    Stupidity is written by the one who trusts in "if".
  34. Shahno
    Shahno 4 November 2019 21: 30
    0
    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Doliva63
    Well, in our country, in fact, the whole country is silent.

    We have enough brainwashed people, but after the pension reform and other "gifts", the realization is slowly coming ...

    Ok, wait, we'll see).

    The Russians are patient people ... Let’s go, it’s time to act.
    PS. Won Americans and those already in doubt ...
  35. Adimius38
    Adimius38 4 November 2019 21: 32
    0
    Well, in Russia they support the ideas of United Russia, raising the retirement age, etc.
  36. DPN
    DPN 4 November 2019 21: 33
    +1
    Thank you for the banner, especially today.
  37. kalibr
    kalibr 4 November 2019 21: 39
    -1
    Quote: McAr
    Communism is just the most natural formation for a reasonable person.

    Wonderful! The only question is ... how reasonable are people.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 4 November 2019 22: 31
      -1
      Quote: kalibr
      Quote: McAr
      Communism is just the most natural formation for a reasonable person.

      Wonderful! The only question is ... how reasonable are people.

      As much as they themselves reflect. Did you receive a CPSU party membership card for blat, or what? belay
    2. Mcar
      Mcar 5 November 2019 01: 55
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      Quote: McAr
      Communism is just the most natural formation for a reasonable person.

      Wonderful! The only question is ... how reasonable are people.

      You understood correctly. Not all people are rational, not all homo sapiens. Totally just homo.

      But here's the curious thing. Under socialism, society itself strove to make these homos smaller, so that these homos become at least a little sapiens. Under capitalism, it is exactly the opposite - the whole system is geared to ensure that the last remnants of sapiens are weathered out of homo. Maybe this is because socialism / communism is progress, and capitalism is regression?
  38. Lontus
    Lontus 4 November 2019 23: 24
    0
    Just did not indicate that most of these 36% are Hispanic, black and other colored.

    There is a stratification not according to worldview, but according to ethnicity
    1. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 4 November 2019 23: 56
      -1
      Quote: Lontus
      Just did not indicate that most of these 36% are Hispanic, black and other colored.


      And in fact they didn’t indicate it. But how do you know about this from somewhere?
  39. Avior
    Avior 5 November 2019 00: 24
    +1
    I really wanted to find the number of members of the US Communist Party at the moment.
    I found it with difficulty.
    In 2017, the Communist Party of the United States has 5000 members out of 300 million people.
    Along the way, I learned the following.
    The US Communist Party opposed the entry of the United States into the war against Hitler.
    The American Communists participated in the election of the President of the United States for many years. The best result was during the years of the Great Depression - 0,26 percent of the vote, the worst - 1968, received 1077 votes, 0,001%.
    The last year, when they participated in 1984, they gained 0,04 percent.
    The conclusion is simple - Americans do not see any connection between communism and real communists. They are for communism without communists smile
    1. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 5 November 2019 01: 26
      0
      Quote: Avior
      They are for communism without communists


      Yes, they are not for communism: https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/468203-millennials-embracing-socialism-because-unfettered-capitalism-failed-them
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 November 2019 02: 36
        +1
        I had no doubt that
        Their goal is not to craft a totalitarian, authoritarian communist state like Venezuela.

        protest vote, a common thing.
        just a selection of questions and answers was specific - chosen from what it was.
        1. Good_Anonymous
          Good_Anonymous 5 November 2019 03: 20
          0
          Quote: Avior
          protest vote, a common thing.


          The usual protest vote is for Trump. But here the matter is deeper.
  40. kalibr
    kalibr 5 November 2019 10: 50
    0
    Quote: Doliva63
    Did you get a party membership card from the CPSU

    And here it is?
  41. kalibr
    kalibr 5 November 2019 10: 52
    0
    Quote: Avior
    The conclusion is simple - Americans do not see any connection between communism and real communists. They are for communism without communists

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
  42. kalibr
    kalibr 5 November 2019 10: 54
    0
    Quote: McAr
    Under socialism, society itself strove to make these homos smaller, so that these homos become at least a little sapiens. Under capitalism, it is exactly the opposite - the whole system is geared to ensure that the last remnants of sapiens are weathered out of homo. Maybe this is because socialism / communism is progress, and capitalism is regression?

    I completely agree with you. I gave homo more than one lecture so that they were not homo. And they listened in one ear and ... went to drink, to drag everything from the factory, well, they do a lot of things. That is, it’s not so easy to make homo not homo. I know, tried for many years!
  43. kalibr
    kalibr 5 November 2019 10: 58
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    If Khrushchev had not put his sly but absolutely illiterate nose into the economy, then it would have pulled us out of any swamp. It was so well arranged. That's just a LOT of MIND is not necessary to spoil everything.

    But he put it in! And no one stopped him. And the system that one person can break down is bad.
  44. kalibr
    kalibr 5 November 2019 11: 00
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    McAr (Alexander)

    I leave. But the computer always puts me down!
  45. kalibr
    kalibr 5 November 2019 11: 16
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    Opportunities to try something thread for your age is enough.

    This makes me happy. Nobody canceled death squads like in El Salvador and paramilitares squads like in Colombia. You wake up in the morning, and on the next fence guts and an inscription are hung: These are the guts of the communist Ivanov, who wanted to socialize my factory. Here's something fun in our country will be ...
  46. Ehanatone
    Ehanatone 5 November 2019 15: 23
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    And why so little, just 100 won some kind of fucking tumbler at the UN as a shouted scream that Russia had shit up the whole world, and communized it child-wise - every second killer in the last 000-000 years means all the damned commies to another world sent - the figure is more than that of a lover ...
  47. iouris
    iouris 5 November 2019 18: 09
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    I don’t know about you, but it offends me: these Yankees again slipped us a non-working project, and they were the first to start building communism in a single country and in a capitalist environment.
  48. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
    evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 6 November 2019 11: 11
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    Russian ,, do not make noise ,, on trifles. Or, as they say, ,, long harness ,,. Well, they gave you some premiere .... er ... eccentric. So another item
    don't deserve it. ,, Who believes in chance, does not believe in God ,,. For three years, for example, they suffered a completely dumb and absurd massacre, which the Bolsheviks justifiably called the “imperialist war”. The rich, ordinary nonhumans, organized this action, and for example, sorry, ,, hung up ears, and let's send it to a “meat grinder”. their subjects. But the subjects tolerated. So far, there was enough strength. ,, Mental and physical, ..,. But when absolutely, absolutely, they exploded. And everyone remembered everything. Everything and everyone. Wherever, excuse me,, we’ve been snarling, cunning, gentlemen,. History repeats itself. Perhaps there will be the same ,, semantic chain ,, - external aggression, arming of the people ...
    Top ideas? There were, are and will be. In PEOPLE it is in the blood. God is fair. And we are the creation of God. In ordinary nonhumans, their vision ... But what do we, people, care about them?