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In China, presented a new combat training aircraft L-15B

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China presented a new light combat (combat training) aircraft L-15B, which is a modified version of the combat training aircraft L-15 (JL-10). The show and flights took place on November 2 at the Hongdu Aircraft Industry Group (HAIG) flight conference in China, which takes place in Nanchang.


In China, presented a new combat training aircraft L-15B


China's HAIG Aircraft Group showed off its new L-15B light combat aircraft, developed on the basis of the HAIG-produced L-15 combat trainer (JL-10). In turn, the aircraft L-15 (or L-15A) was created with the help of the Russian Design Bureau. A.S. Yakovlev and the Ukrainian company "Progress" them. A.G. Ivchenko. In the framework of such cooperation, Russian specialists helped their Chinese colleagues with the development of the airframe and airborne systems, and the task of the Ukrainian enterprise was to manufacture and supply the required turbojet engines.



Reportedly, the L-15B two-seat aircraft is intended for use as a light attack fighter and a transitional combat training aircraft. The prototype was rolled out on 3 on May 2017 in one of the workshops of the aircraft factory in Nanchang.

As a further development of the Chinese aircraft JL-10 (L-15) and the Russian Yak-130, the new L-15B retains a glider of a similar design. At the same time, instead of the AI-222-25 afterburner engines developed by the Zaporizhzhya Ivchenko-Progress Design Bureau, it installed AI-222-25F engines with afterburner manufactured at Ukrainian Motor Sich. Allegedly, with the help of two engines with thrust on the afterburner according to 420 kgf, the L-15B aircraft is capable of speeds up to 1480 km / h.

The new aircraft has 11 suspension points for weapons. HAIG designers managed to place pylons under the wing and fuselage of the 9 aircraft for the installation of weapons, two more suspension points are available at the wingtips. An airplane has an armament control complex, including a controlled one. The central ventral pylon can also be used to mount a hanging container with an automatic cannon.

The L-15B has a radar with passive phased array antenna. The type and characteristics of the installed radar have not yet been called.

It is expected that poor countries needing low-cost jet light attack aircraft will show interest in this aircraft, and it is also possible that the L-15B will be adopted by the PLA Air Force as a combat training aircraft. Previously, Pakistan, Uruguay and Ukraine showed interest in the aircraft. There is no data on the conclusion of supply contracts.

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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 3 November 2019 10: 10
    +6
    In China, presented a new combat training aircraft L-15B
    laughing He clearly reminds someone of someone recourse bully
    1. cost
      cost 3 November 2019 10: 16
      +13
      yes, the new plane presented by the Chinese is clearly from the series - "why did Volodka shave his mustache?"
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 3 November 2019 11: 11
        +4
        The third clone of the Yak-130.
      2. Berkut752
        Berkut752 4 November 2019 13: 55
        0
        Read it again, maybe you'll understand. They do not hide that the fuselage, the Yak -130.
    2. figwam
      figwam 3 November 2019 11: 09
      +4
      Quote: Observer2014
      He clearly reminds someone of someone

      So in the article it is written about it.
      As a further development of the Chinese aircraft JL-10 (L-15) and the Russian Yak-130
    3. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 3 November 2019 12: 04
      -2
      Quote: Observer2014
      laughing Someone he clearly reminds me of recourse bully


      Alpha Jet?
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 3 November 2019 12: 19
        0
        Alpha Jet, French.
      2. Berkut752
        Berkut752 4 November 2019 13: 58
        0
        A completely different plane, visible with the naked eye.
  2. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 November 2019 10: 16
    -2
    So they would say, malicious copying of our Yak-130. Here are the clowns, and then they will write that he has no analogues.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 November 2019 10: 25
      +16
      Why copy? The article also indicates - official outsourcing, Yak received the money and there is another glider if that. The Yak-130 is adapted for the 500-800km / h range, and the EL15 is adapted for the 1M +.
      In turn, the L-15 (or L-15A) aircraft was created with with the help of the Russian OKB im. A.S. Yakovlev and the Ukrainian enterprise "Progress" them. A.G. Ivchenko. In the framework of such In cooperation, Russian experts helped their Chinese colleagues develop the airframe and on-board systems, and the task of the Ukrainian enterprise was to manufacture and supply the required turbojet engines.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 3 November 2019 10: 34
        -4
        I’m not talking about technical parameters and contractual relations, but about the Chinese tendency in recent years to hit my heels in the chest and tell how cool they are and at the same time do not care about those who gave them such an opportunity. Pure water plagiarism.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 3 November 2019 10: 56
          +1
          Generally speaking, it is in Russia that it is customary to write about "having no analogue in the world", which is "very peaceful". And the Chinese simply silently, calmly offer products that are both cheaper and in many ways, already, much better than the "no one in the world" ... yes
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 3 November 2019 11: 07
            -4
            I'm talking about Thomas, and you, pr Yeryomu, haven’t woken up to me?
      2. svp67
        svp67 3 November 2019 10: 52
        +6
        Quote: donavi49
        In the framework of such cooperation, Russian specialists helped their Chinese colleagues with the development of the airframe and airborne systems, and the task of the Ukrainian enterprise was to manufacture and supply the required turbojet engines.

        Okay, "Motor Sich", they get direct money for engines, but ours, ours, they made a competitor for themselves, what kind of "cunning maneuver"?
        1. Pavel57
          Pavel57 3 November 2019 11: 12
          +2
          While no one bought the L-15, even Ukraine.
        2. Nycomed
          Nycomed 3 November 2019 12: 26
          +3
          Well, why a competitor? In this market, the UTS / UBS competition is huge without us. And we can’t do it anyway cheaper than the Chinese. In addition, we ourselves have a huge need for the Yak-130. It is necessary to equip their training units, and KB A.S. Yakovlev already needs to be ahead of the road to create something new, and again, having gotten a sore point, ENGINES ...
    2. akarfoxhound
      akarfoxhound 3 November 2019 11: 16
      +5
      There is also a constructive, rather technologically serious, difference - the Chinese have adjustable supersonic air intakes. If it were not for this topic, with which the Chinese have been personally "poking around" for a long time, the L-15 had a chance to enter the series earlier than the Yak. As well as with the Italian clone of Yak, with which the Yakovlevites "fruitfully" worked, transferring technology, and the new European M-346 trainer saw a series of years 5 years earlier than the Yak-130, and even equipped with AFAR.
      That's the whole "business" in Russian
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 3 November 2019 13: 48
        +1
        The Yak-130 is in service with 5 countries. Italian at 4x. And they didn’t hand over the documentation, but sold it for 70 million. That in the 90s was definitely not bad, primarily for the Yak-130 project. In general, both projects turned out to be expensive for a training flight.
        1. Town Hall
          Town Hall 3 November 2019 14: 05
          -4
          Quote: Pavel57
          And they did not hand over the documentation, but sold it for 70 million.

          Seriously? Does it make link difficult?
          1. Pavel57
            Pavel57 3 November 2019 14: 21
            +2
            You need a copy of the contract, or take a word?)))
        2. akarfoxhound
          akarfoxhound 3 November 2019 14: 50
          +1
          And for you, during the joint development of the aircraft by the two countries, it was "transferred" only without any remorse; dad, as Owl said? Yes, it was more a transfer, not a sale: a joint project to develop the TCB (not for Italians, please note, but a joint one!). Our part of the project was the airframe construction, the rest from Russia "on the little things". At the stage of the already formed, calculated and approved-worked KS, the Italians suddenly break the contract. Ours remain with the thought, and we will make our own.
          The question in the booklet was this was a planned sale ???
          And the screams in the 90s in the Red Star I remember very well on the termination of the contract
  3. knn54
    knn54 3 November 2019 10: 17
    0
    - Previously, they showed interest in the plane ... and Ukraine
    The main condition of the transaction is the localization of the assembly of military vehicles at the Odessa Aviation Plant (Odesaviaremservis), whose capacities will increase with the help of the Chinese side.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 3 November 2019 10: 28
      -2
      Yes Yes. These matches banderlogovsky even matches can not be trusted, and you're talking about airplanes.
  4. Vitas
    Vitas 3 November 2019 10: 21
    0
    Quote: Ros 56
    In turn, the L-15 (or L-15A) aircraft was created with the help of the Russian Design Bureau named after A.S. Yakovlev and the Ukrainian enterprise "Progress" them. A.G. Ivchenko.

    In turn, the L-15 (or L-15A) aircraft was created with the help of the Russian Design Bureau named after A.S. Yakovlev and the Ukrainian enterprise "Progress" them. A.G. Ivchenko.

    Where is the copying here ?! Some hands did, the second helped. And my head thought ahead !!
  5. mvg
    mvg 3 November 2019 10: 29
    +2
    Well done. They installed a radar and made supersonic. Added suspension points. Ours and Yak could not do this, climbed overboard for 25 million. Nobody took the initiative. And here are 4 potential buyers. Only engines are still Motor Sich.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 3 November 2019 10: 47
      +3
      From which it follows that the "funeral" of the Zaporozhye enterprise has been canceled for now ....
      1. figwam
        figwam 3 November 2019 11: 22
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        From which it follows that the "funeral" of the Zaporozhye enterprise has been canceled for now ....

        Until the Chinese make a copy of this engine.
        1. Avior
          Avior 3 November 2019 20: 27
          0
          The Chinese acted easier, they bought a factory.
          Why would they copy themselves ...
    2. Yura
      Yura 3 November 2019 11: 00
      +5
      Quote: mvg
      Ours and Yak could not do this

      But did our developers set such a task, a task for themselves? Was there a general need for this, a training aircraft, which could also be an attack aircraft, does it need a fly? And they couldn’t, everyone can, if this is the task and the point.
      1. mvg
        mvg 3 November 2019 11: 22
        0
        he needs swings

        He’s also a student, and imitates the 5 generation, he needs swings. Or the South Koreans with their T-50 are also fools. We simply do not have radars for this diameter and engines with afterburner. That is the whole answer. And development needs to be financed. And Korea just bought a license for F-414.
        PS: And for 25 million you can safely buy a used MiG-29 or F-16, with repair. And at us L-39 are worn out, and Yak-130 are a little expensive, all the same. There are very few orders, then 4 aircraft will be bought, then 12
        1. NKT
          NKT 3 November 2019 12: 29
          +1
          Already more than a hundred in the troops.
        2. venik
          venik 3 November 2019 12: 37
          +2
          Quote: mvg
          And for 25 million you can safely buy a used MiG-29 or F-16

          ========
          Have you accidentally "missed the shore", dear? The KAI T-25 Golden Eagle costs $ 50 million. The export price of the Yak-130 is 15 million (fifteen !). For the Russian Aerospace Forces - approx 7 (seven) million $.
          ------
          Quote: mvg
          and the Yak-130 is a little expensive, all the same. There are very few orders, then 4 planes will be bought, then 12

          =========
          In fact, as of 2018, the videoconferencing system included 93 (ninety-three) Yak-130, And it is planned to purchase more.
          1. mvg
            mvg 3 November 2019 12: 41
            -1
            respected? 25 million $ worth KAI T-50 Golden Eagle

            Are you sure you read everything to the end? T-50, supersonic, radar, URO and the American engine.
            If all this is stuck on the Yak-130, it will be 25 .. There is still a comment below, I do not want to repeat. About mass character and price tag. They are dragging Yak'ovlev.
    3. figwam
      figwam 3 November 2019 11: 15
      +1
      ]
      Quote: mvg
      Well done. Installed radar, and made supersonic

      Why attack aircraft and training supersonic?
      1. mvg
        mvg 3 November 2019 12: 23
        -3
        and training supersonic

        see above, it still mimics the 5 generation and is like a light fighter. If he, as an attack aircraft, with its payload in 2,5 tons, put a radar, a new avionics (for URO) and some armor, then he will only carry a pilot. Well, maybe a couple more sandwiches. And as a light fighter, with 11 suspension points - quite.
        1. Avior
          Avior 3 November 2019 20: 29
          0
          A fighter without radar and supersonic?
    4. venik
      venik 3 November 2019 11: 53
      +1
      Quote: mvg
      Well done. They installed a radar and made supersonic. Added suspension points. Ours and Yak could not do this, climbed out for 25 million overboard.

      =======
      Yah? Directly and "got out?" fool For reference: "the cost of the Yak-130 - ~15 million (for export) ~7 (seven!) million (for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation). (https://topwar.ru/156472-jak-130-luchshij-po-sootnosheniju-stoimost-jeffektivnost.html).
      ------
      Quote: mvg
      And here is 4 potential the buyer.
      . Oh well, as many as FOUR and even POTENTIAL buyers .... Oooo!
      For reference: Yak-130 ALREADY exported to:
      - Algeria;
      - Bangladesh;
      - Myanmar;
      - Laos;
      - Belarus.
      Planned delivery to:
      - Syria;
      - Kazakhstan;
      - Mongolia;
      - Malaysia.
      They show interest:
      - India;
      - Venezuela. and etc.
      Summary: Sometimes it is better to be silent than to speak (write) !!! fool
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 3 November 2019 12: 06
        +2
        Syria is only a gift.
        Kazakhstan - it is doubtful, given the purchase of UAVs in China, most likely K8 with a glass cabin will be bought for 10 lyamov.
        Mongolia - as a gift.
        Malaysia - everything is extremely interesting. They need to replace the old Hawks. However, they are loudly arguing with Europe now, on the topic of palm oil (Europe has twisted the tap of purchases). China is not very friend - and they will not buy from it. Remains Korea and Russia in fact. However, Russia is working closely with Indonesia now - and this does not please Malaysia. Plus, Malaysia, like Indonesia, will pay 50% of goods.

        Venezuela - no. Already bought K8. And they don’t want anything else. They are not up to purchases.



        India is very controversial. They have a hundred relatively fresh Hawks. There is its own Sirata, without tears you will not look, but your own. And if they decide - then there will be dances with songs of years on 5, all the more nothing. Feel everyone from Koreans to Boeing, from M346 to Yak.
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 3 November 2019 12: 29
          0
          Everything is absolutely true! + good
      2. mvg
        mvg 3 November 2019 12: 38
        -3
        "the cost of the Yak-130 is ~ 15 million (for export)

        Add radar, avionics, engines, armor. And count. Then take the cost of L-39 as a training. And compare. Search prices 2 minutes. About 1 mln second-hand - 200 thous.
        This car was used to replace the Czech L-39, only costs 10 times more expensive.
        50 pcs left for export Belarusians bought 4 units, the first batch in the Russian Air Force 12 units. Algeria-16, Bangladesh-13. Are these volumes for a mass export aircraft? Comparable to 3000 F-35
        https://topwar.ru/150441-jak-130-i-rodstvennye-mashiny.html
        PS: // Sometimes it is better to be silent than to speak (write) !!! // Exactly. negative
        India will not buy. They have their own Tejes - 2 costs so much.
      3. Avior
        Avior 3 November 2019 20: 31
        0
        For reference: Yak-130 is ALREADY exported to:
        - Algeria;
        - Bangladesh;
        - Myanmar;
        - Laos;
        - Belarus.
        Planned delivery to:
        - Syria;
        - Kazakhstan;
        - Mongolia;
        - Malaysia.
        They show interest:
        - India;
        - Venezuela. and etc.

        In such lists it is useful to highlight who pays the money and who pays the loan ...
        1. Town Hall
          Town Hall 3 November 2019 20: 35
          0
          The list itself is eloquent
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    5. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 3 November 2019 17: 05
      0
      Quote: mvg
      Ours and Yak could not do this

      Seriously? From the very beginning, Yak offered a whole family of 130-based vehicles: a light fighter, a light strike aircraft, UBS, a deck, an UAV. During the competition for the attack aircraft offered their version. Moreover, the radar is already going to put on the car. It’s just that now the main need for the Air Force is precisely in UBS, and not percussion — the lack of pilots, thanks to Serdyukov, which arose urgently.
      The engines on the L-15 were installed from the very beginning with a force camera - it was a direct technical specification and the desire of the customer.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 November 2019 10: 32
    +1
    the L-15 (or L-15A) aircraft was created with the help of the Russian Design Bureau named after A.S. Yakovlev and the Ukrainian enterprise "Progress" them. A.G. Ivchenko. Within the framework of such cooperation Russian experts have helped Chinese colleagues with the development of a glider

    ... and it turned out Yak-130 bully
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 3 November 2019 10: 33
    0
    Are there many pendant points for weapons? You can also hang rockets on top of the wings ... lol
    1. venik
      venik 3 November 2019 11: 56
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      Are there many pendant points for weapons? You can also hang rockets on top of the wings ... lol

      =======
      good Well, if you also throw out the instructor, then you can "trample" in the second cabin of the UVP (vertical launch unit)! wassat drinks
  8. mark1
    mark1 3 November 2019 10: 34
    +4
    The Chinese are well done, they did (it doesn’t matter on their own or with someone else’s help) and will sell everywhere. We've been chewing snot for 10 years now - we need a light attack aircraft and a fighter based on the Yak-130 or not. or rather no than yes, or rather yes than no ... but this is, among other things, a good commercial project ... it seems that the Yak-133 UAV flies in the same direction ... but then the turnips are scratched, headed by the prime minister - and what else would we sell except the S-400 and Su-57 (they are necessary!)?
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 3 November 2019 10: 48
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      We have been chewing snot for 10 for years - we need a light attack aircraft and a fighter based on the Yak-130 or not.

      not needed
      Quote: mark1
      But this, in particular, is a good commercial project ...

      Why did you decide so? :))) The Yak-130 has export potential - it was bought by 5 countries (such as Myanmar, Bangladesh and, by the way, for some reason Belarus). But whether this Chinese craft will be sold - I have big doubts, and in any case time will tell
      1. mark1
        mark1 3 November 2019 11: 00
        0
        This is a good, large niche in which both the Yak-130 and L-15 and M-346 and other UTS (not necessarily the Yakovlev generation) and aircraft based on them go well. Here, even the state’s assistance could be minimal (since he doesn’t need light attack aircraft and fighter jets) - they took up the Chinese order and at the same time thought of themselves.
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 3 November 2019 11: 09
        +5
        12 L-15 already delivered to Zambia



        Active negotiations are underway with a number of African countries, including Nigeria. Negotiations are also underway - about an order in Pakistan with the opening of mass production with the right to export to the country (as they did with K8 - the previous hit of the Chinese)

      3. mark1
        mark1 3 November 2019 11: 21
        +2
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        But whether this Chinese craft will be sold - I have big doubts,

        She is for sale.
      4. mvg
        mvg 3 November 2019 11: 27
        -1
        Yak-130 has export potential

        Doesn’t, buy a penny. He is not even needed in the Russian Air Force. He is empty and dear. And China will sell. It turned out like the T-50, but it will obviously be cheaper. But Koreans are buying.
        chinese crafts

        The Chinese assembly of components surpassed the USSR. And now do you often hear about accidents in the air force of China? What can not be said about the Russian Federation or the United States.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 3 November 2019 11: 26
      +1
      need a light attack aircraft and a fighter at the base


      What for? VKS does not ask yet. You can’t enter the market because there are two very tough competitors in the face:
      T-50 - complete supersonic, one engine, radar including AFAR from Leonardo, the ability to use AIM-120C5 +. Full compatibility with various containers and weapons of various countries. Good export history. It was used in real battles in Iraq and the Philippines.




      There is the M-346FA - which also has a radar from Leonardo, a huge range of weapons. Glider Yak. Engines are even better (but not supersonic). Trump - 2 Marte-EP missiles. The latest proposal from the Europeans, light anti-ship missiles / universal missile at a range of 100km.


      Plus, this Chinese is on the way. Another Chinese competitor (whom the Chinese Air Force threw in favor of L-15 - but the Navy may order a new version + ordered Sudan, negotiations are ongoing with other African and Asian countries).

      American TX are going to do in the shock version.

      However, the main thing is that at least some real success came only Koreans. And then there were circumstances (war in the Philippines and Iraq). Plus good marketing, relatively affordable price, chic board. The Koreans really sold their T-50 really well in both toothy and poor versions. Toothy M-346FA sold a whole 0 pieces. The Chinese sold 12 eLok not yet toothy and 6 toothy FTC-2000 to Sudan, the Americans are still just collecting a new board.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 November 2019 10: 44
    -2
    As for the fact that the Yak-130 cannot fly supersonic - yes. But 3 tons of combat load! And what about the "Chinese"?
    The suspension is listed, but the weight of the BC?
    1. Avior
      Avior 3 November 2019 20: 37
      +1
      According to Wikipedia, the same three tons.
      Afterburner adds agility when needed
  10. armata_armata
    armata_armata 3 November 2019 10: 49
    0
    It is expected that poor countries needing low-cost jet light attack aircraft will be interested in this aircraft, and it is also possible that the L-15B will be adopted by the PLA Air Force as a combat training aircraft.

    I strongly doubt the possibility of adopting it for the PLA, and for poor countries there are more interesting cars on the Chinese market. Rather, the case will not go further than the prototype
  11. Nycomed
    Nycomed 3 November 2019 11: 23
    0
    The Italian version will still be abruptly.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 November 2019 12: 13
      0
      Doubtful.
      The M346 percussion has two trump cards - the latest Marte rockets at 100km. And you can drag two at once. Suddenly, a relatively cheap aircraft in terms of shock / anti-ship capabilities becomes equal to Rafal or Typhoon. The second excellent board, compatibility, radar thanks to the filling from Leonardo (but again, the latest AFAR from Leonardo climbs on the Korean T-50 and has already been delivered to Iraq, but it does not climb on the M346).


      If you do not take the price, then of all the toothy UBS in metal, now the best FA-50IQ (T-50IQ) is now. But also the most expensive. Given the kits, almost 40 lyamas went for the plane (poorer kits and the worst radar in the Philippines pulled 33 lyamas for the plane).
  12. Mihail42
    Mihail42 3 November 2019 11: 27
    0
    Good car for Azerbaijan and Turkey
    1. Altai72
      Altai72 4 November 2019 07: 47
      0
      Azerbaijan M346 purchased. 10 +15