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"We are worse than cattle here." Labor migration in Ukrainian

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The most unenviable situation among labor migrants from Ukraine is in Poland. The East European power itself has relatively recently got rid of chronic unemployment, and therefore the Poles are wary of visitors who increase competition for jobs. Interestingly, Poland managed to free itself from excess labor only after the opening of the EU border - then young people poured into the UK and Ireland with a wide river. And when it turned out that there was no one even to harvest, I had to call for help nearby and not the most prosperous Ukraine. Currently, at least 2 million Ukrainians are in Poland at a time and it seems that this is only official data. In fact, they replace the jobs of those who went to the developed countries of Western Europe for higher earnings. Statistics say that the indigenous population of Poland is willingly to pay less than 1000 euros per month.




Therefore, this niche with varying degrees of success is occupied by Ukrainian workers, although their average earnings still do not reach 1000 and amount to 600-650 euros. The crisis in relations with Russia has seriously aggravated the situation with work in Ukraine - the unemployed had to look for their place in the West, agree to much more difficult conditions. Why do Ukrainians tolerate this and do not travel further west - to Germany, France and the UK? After all, there are much higher salaries and a loyal attitude. It is all about not knowing even the English language, not to mention German and French, as well as difficulties with applying for a visa. All this makes Poland the main source of income for millions of labor migrants from Ukraine, which causes irritation among local people. First of all, few people try to comply with at least some conditions of labor legislation - some Ukrainians work illegally. The case of Vasily Chorney, whose boss, in an unconscious state, was taken to die in the forest, became horrifying. The body of the unfortunate was found by foresters near the town of Wagrowiec in the Greater Poland Voivodeship. Chorney illegally worked at a small company manufacturing coffins, and one of the hot days he became ill. Calling an ambulance for the employer meant exposing the presence of illegal immigrants at the factory, so she simply dismissed the workers and took the dying person away. As a result, the Polish killer faces up to five years in prison, however, like her undertaker from Ukraine for concealing the fact of a crime and not providing first aid. Of course, such egregious cases leading to the death of zarobitchan are investigated by the police, and those responsible are likely to be held accountable. What can not be said about the regular humiliation and beating of Ukrainians in Poland - here the very fact of a brawl will be a reason for migrant workers from the east to be deported to their homeland.


Nikolay Saenko after the 18-day coma, a symbol of the Polish-Ukrainian fraternity, and Yuri Chebotaryov with a broken nose

So, in early October, Yuri Chebotaryov, who worked both as an actor in the Poznan theater and as a cook in a pizzeria, after a showdown with the owner of the eatery, found himself with a broken nose. Chebotaryov faced a choice: either to skip a theatrical production, or to lose his job in a pizzeria. He chose the second and after the performance returned for the calculation. For Yuri, it all ended in a beating with a broken nose and a police call. The owner still returned the money earned by the Ukrainians, but it is still unknown whether he will suffer any punishment. At the same time, according to Chebotarev, if there would be at least one abrasion on the face of the Pole, the actor and part-time cooks would be expelled from the country.

“We are glad to all customers, but not to subhumans”


In Poland, a paradoxical situation has developed. On the one hand, such an influx of Ukrainians is increasingly annoying part of the population, and on the other hand, the demand for low-skilled migrant workers is still not declining. The radical part of society does not tolerate Ukrainian speech on the streets and is ready with fists to defend the country from the eastern "occupiers". In this regard, indicative история Nikolay Saenko, who, after a skirmish at the Black Horse nightclub, may remain disabled. At the end of August, he and his brother Vladislav decided to have fun and, according to witnesses, the first time in the club did not attract much attention. Until he exchanged a few words with his brother on the mov. The guards brutally beat both Saenko. As a result, 23-year-old Nikolai is now in the hospital with severe cerebral edema, fractures and paralysis of half of the body. The Poles, unlike the Germans, lack a complex of guilt on the basis of nationalism, which becomes almost a death sentence for Ukrainians who fell under the hot hand. Even Molotov cocktails are used - they were thrown into the dormitory of Ukrainians engaged in the construction of meters in Warsaw. Fortunately, the nationalist attack cost no casualties.

The Polish police in many respects provokes such a behavior of the radicals - if the skirmishes did not end with severe injuries and death, the siloviki try not to accept statements from zarobitchans. But even without physical violence, Ukrainians are treated as second-class people, and sometimes even as slaves. For example, the working day of Mikhail Babenko from Vinnitsa on Polish land is at least 10-12 hours - he unloads products in the Bedronka store six days a week. As the guest worker himself says, eyes from such loads themselves are closed, you have to eat anything, and live in a small room of a hostel with 12 just as miserable. Last year, the Polish prosecutor's office had to initiate the case of the lawful imprisonment of several dozen workers from Ukraine. A group of enterprising Poles brought zarobitchan to the camp, took away documents and forced to work on a construction site. All this together allows Poland to receive enormous profits from the use of cheap labor from the East. The leadership of the country is seriously panicked by the prospects for the future liberalization of the migration policy of neighboring Germany - soon in Poland it will be necessary to pay a decent salary and create human working conditions not only for indigenous people, but also for guests from Ukraine.


Typical conditions for an illegal worker from Ukraine. Officially arranged living conditions are not much better.

Becoming a “successful lady” in Ukraine is becoming more and more problematic, therefore, a large part of the flow of labor migration is occupied by women. On average, this is about 40% of the total migration flow, but this was not always the case. Until the 2014 year, it was women who made up the majority of the people working in Poland. In addition to the humiliating work in Polish escort agencies (up to 40% of all priestesses of love in the country from Ukraine and Bulgaria), women, among other things, choose the profession of dishwashers, cleaners, caregivers and carers. But here, one cannot do without moral humiliation, although it is relatively well paid. So, 30-year-old Oksana Minchenko from Rovno in an interview with the publication “Arguments and Facts” shared her impressions of the illegal work as a nurse at a Polish old woman. Grandmother turned out to be not a dandelion of God:
“The pensioner is angry, constantly screaming at me, insulting me ... Once I gave her water, and she threw it in my face. The hostess generally hit my friend and called her “Ukrainian curvy”. We tolerate, and what to do ... We are illegal immigrants - they will drive us out. "


In a month, illegally employed Oksana received 650 euros. Frankly xenophobic statements can be heard in Poland not only from the lips of ordinary residents, but in ads such as “for work required” on social networks. So, in Gdynia, one eatery needed a chef and among the requirements for the candidate one could meet “Ukrainians or others like that, please do not apply.” The sensible part of Polish Gdynia, in fair anger, called on the restaurateur to answer, to which she heard:
“We are glad to all customers, but not to subhumans.”


Again, we will not be likened to the Polish radicals and will not row all the Polish people under one comb. Most of the country's population, according to official statistics, is rather friendly towards visitors from Ukraine. Among the annoying factors lead to poor knowledge of Polish, which leads to inconvenience in shopping centers and services. However, the general level of attitude of Poles to Ukrainians cannot be compared with the hospitality of Russia. Victims after the arson of a hostel in Warsaw, the zarobitchans openly admitted that it was sometimes difficult for us, but that they would be thrown with Molotov cocktails in the capital ...

In general, migrants are a good source of capital for Ukraine’s barely lively economy - up to 14 billion euros are annually transferred to the residents of our western neighbor, which in many ways allows us to keep the country afloat. And Ukrainians fleeing unemployment in their homeland have to use life hacking in Poland - they speak exclusively Russian in public places.
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  1. NF68
    NF68 1 November 2019 15: 14
    0
    The Poles together rushed to Germany. The Ukrainians also followed.
    1. Proxima
      Proxima 1 November 2019 15: 39
      +5
      Ukraine is the only country of the former Union that did not restore its GDP at the time of the collapse of the USSR. It's not like you go to Poland, to Burkina Faso.
    2. Vend
      Vend 1 November 2019 16: 27
      +7
      Well, as they say, for which they fought, they ran into something. Wanted to Europe, now be happy.
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      2. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 1 November 2019 18: 57
        +17
        More than 80 years have passed, and the Polish-Ukrainian friendship is still the same ....
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          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 3 November 2019 13: 31
            0
            Nicholas II never ranked among the saints.
        2. Avior
          Avior 4 November 2019 02: 57
          0
          Stupid but replicated Photoshop ...
          this picture in different variations roams the Internet.
          Its source is nowhere. And nowhere is there a photo of this very tram.
          Errors in spelling are obvious, both in text- With dogs and Ukrainians ...- complete nonsense, it would be correct With dogs and Ukrainians ... and spelling- in Polish nationality are capitalized, obviously, the one who is this nonsense composed, not very at odds with Polish and poorly understood.
          And you know why below the postscript about 1937?
          Because the author of this picture made another gross mistake, burst, in the beginning of the 20th century Lvov was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the official language was German, and the Poles did not have any privileges, were on a par with the Ukrainians.
      3. A man with a capital letter
        A man with a capital letter 1 November 2019 23: 33
        0
        Do not fight, but were silent. And now they are silent, afraid?
      4. Fisherman
        Fisherman 11 November 2019 11: 04
        0
        Took off the tongue. We lived normally, worked, visited each other on a visit, and they wanted to go to you in Europe. Well, reap the benefits. How much did this Geyropa give them? Or was it better not to spoil relations with a neighbor who forgave and closed his eyes a lot? And now the neighbor changed his mind and said: here is God for you, and here is the threshold.
    3. Mikhail Matyugin
      Mikhail Matyugin 5 November 2019 17: 34
      0
      Quote: NF68
      Poles together rushed to Germany

      Not at all - the main stream of Polish labor migration is Great Britain and France. And on the spot - yes, Ukrainians replace what to do.
  2. knn54
    knn54 1 November 2019 15: 14
    +6
    To harvest strawberries, I had to go on foot from the hostel to the field, about 5 km one way. If after two weeks you turn to the employer not in Polish, fine.
    By the way, the Poles go to work even in the Czech Republic.
    1. Jerk
      Jerk 1 November 2019 15: 25
      -12
      ... and the suckers - even in the Triboltian extinctions. Soon they will go to Uzbekistan to earn money. It has long been neighing that the Russian Federation is resting in Turkey, and with their tip - the Turks arrange sex tours in Ukraine
      1. APES
        APES 1 November 2019 15: 32
        +13
        It has long been neighing that the Russian Federation is resting in Turkey, and with their tip - the Turks arrange sex tours in Ukraine

        for me, Ukraine, Russia and Belarus are one.
        and whoever jokes like that is obvious to be liked when the Turks fuck the Slavs
        1. Jerk
          Jerk 1 November 2019 16: 11
          +11
          Scratch to Lviv - there is a sea of ​​"Slavs". By the way, this is the same Nazism. If the crowd of freaks with a swastika is "Slavs", so much the worse for the Slavs. First of all, they are freaks. And Gogol wrote everything about them
        2. Greg Miller
          Greg Miller 1 November 2019 19: 04
          +12
          Western Ukraine is a foreign body in the world of the Eastern Slavs ... Comrade. Stalin made the mistake of annexing ALL of western Ukraine to the USSR. What was part of Austria-Hungary had to be left to Poland and let them "love" each other as they wanted. You cannot swallow what you cannot digest. And all of East Prussia, including Danzig, Memel and Suwalki, had to be left to the RSFSR ...
          1. Far East
            Far East 2 November 2019 01: 46
            +5
            let's give all the lands attached to Russia, give it away! comrade Stalin did not make any mistakes! it is our power, gives, gives RUSSIAN land! (CIS)
            1. Sergey1987
              Sergey1987 2 November 2019 12: 57
              0
              Quote: Far East
              comrade Stalin did not make any mistakes! it is our power, gives, gives RUSSIAN land! (CIS)

              What are you? And it is no coincidence that under your communists Lenin and Stalin the USSR and the BSSR were created? Pseudo countries with pseudo nations. Did they not divide the Russian land?
              1. Far East
                Far East 2 November 2019 13: 17
                +2
                under the communists! there were NO such countries (ussr and ussr)! and yours, bullshit didn’t give anything!
                1. Sergey1987
                  Sergey1987 2 November 2019 14: 50
                  +4
                  Quote: Far East
                  there were NO such countries (ussr and ussr)

                  Having created the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR, they laid the foundation for the subsequent collapse of the country. With this giving land. It is not clear for what reason the Ukrainian SSR was transferred to Russian cities, but now they are part of another country because of them. It was under the Bolsheviks in Ukraine that Ukrainization was carried out.
                  Quote: Far East
                  and yours, bullshit didn’t give anything

                  Who! What kind of shit are these? And what did they give?
                  1. Far East
                    Far East 2 November 2019 15: 14
                    0
                    I, as I understand it, you were born in the 90s did not find the USSR. then you are probably a democrat! you are born in a democratic country! conclusion! (By creating the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR they laid the foundation for the subsequent collapse of the country) yes, stop it! who gave, and why! in a referendum, more than half of the citizens were for preserving the USSR. you have at your fingertips a keyboard, and the Internet. type know what territories have moved to other states!
                    1. Quadro
                      Quadro 2 November 2019 21: 18
                      +1
                      in a referendum, more than half of the citizens were for preserving the USSR

                      And what has changed? Local kings ruined the USSR, the people did not go out into the streets, but only joyfully lowered and tore the USSR flag. Even I, who sympathize with socialism and communism, realize that the founders of the USSR laid a time bomb and sometimes diligently developed separatism with their "Ukrainizations" and "Belarusization", trying to show the "friendship of the peoples" , only you can be friends without giving up your territories and developing the ideas of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Poland, spreading fictitious Ukrainians and the Ukrainian language.
                      1. Far East
                        Far East 3 November 2019 00: 27
                        -2
                        (only you can be friends without giving up your territories) then "we were friends in the RSFSR, I wrote about our realities. Our rulers, in our time, have managed to give up the territory!"
                  2. Stas157
                    Stas157 3 November 2019 06: 22
                    +1
                    Quote: Sergey1987
                    Having created the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR they laid the foundation for the subsequent collapse of the country. With this giving land.

                    USSR and BSSR destroyed the USSR ??
                    How did you come up with this? Is Kolya from Urengoy an hour your friend?

                    Unlucky always propagate nonsense in one way, taking off all responsibility. They love to frighten with dashing 90s, although it was with them, in the full oil-zero, that they were finally stopped, destroyed or converted into shopping centers, MOST of Soviet enterprises. So in the collapse of the USSR, they accuse Stalin's international policy of creating an alliance of indestructible and free 15 Soviet republics.
    2. Zliy_mod
      Zliy_mod 2 November 2019 23: 46
      +2
      My daughter was in Bukovel, a mountain resort in the Ukrainian Carpathians, so she was surprised that many local adults speak ... French and German, learn and train, Poland is behind us, they dream of working in Europe ...
  3. kjhg
    kjhg 1 November 2019 15: 30
    +35
    Author, not tired? It doesn’t matter that we are getting worse every year, is it important that Ukrainians are even worse? To me, on the contrary, the more power gets into my wallet, the less Ukrainians are interested in things. What do I care about Mykola when my own state is trying to bring me to my knees, distracting Mykola with stories about this? And it is also bent by the Ukrainian authorities, talking about the aggressor. In general, it seems to me that I need to unite with Mykola and raise these blowers to the forks for this.
    1. APES
      APES 1 November 2019 15: 35
      -4
      it gets worse every year, it is important that Ukrainians get worse

      "Russia without Ukraine will never be great" - zbigniew brzezinski
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 1 November 2019 15: 38
        +19
        Russia can become great, both with Ukraine and without. But for this we need appropriate power in the country. Under power, when the population has been dying for almost 30 years, under tales of greatness, it will not become great, both with Ukraine and with all the republics of the USSR. And what does greatness mean to you? The maintenance of half the planet at our expense? It seems to me that greatness implies, first of all, a decent standard of living with a strong army. To do this, we do not need to give out loans to different Honduras. All resources are inside the country. The main one is the human resource.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 1 November 2019 16: 44
          +12
          Yes it is-----almost 30 years the population is dying According to the estimates of Academician Gundarov, who is engaged in the demography of the Russian Federation, as a result of post-Soviet reforms, the country lost a population of more than 30 million people. Becomes less than 20 years old, less than those who marry and have children. This process is growing. The fact that the percentage of unemployed has now decreased according to statistics, with a decrease in enterprises ---- indicates that the population is decreasing.
          1. Jerk
            Jerk 1 November 2019 18: 12
            -6
            How is demography connected with the presence of Ukraine? I remind you that in Ukraine just the reduction in the population - many times more than in the Russian Federation - would only worsen the picture
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 2 November 2019 06: 22
              +2
              My comment is the answer to where the arrow indicates --- click and find out.
              The population is declining throughout the post-Soviet space, by the way.
              Quote: Jerk
              How is demography connected with the presence of Ukraine? I remind you that in Ukraine just the reduction in the population - many times more than in the Russian Federation - would only worsen the picture
      2. AlexVas44
        AlexVas44 1 November 2019 15: 58
        +3
        Quote: APES
        "Russia without Ukraine will never be great" - zbigniew brzezinski

        I do not think that Brzezinski was a classic and his words are prophetic. Quite the contrary, Ukraine without Russia never ......
      3. garrett
        garrett 1 November 2019 16: 15
        0
        Quote: APES
        it gets worse every year, it is important that Ukrainians get worse

        "Russia without Ukraine will never be great" - zbigniew brzezinski

        “You can not underestimate the fact that without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire, with Ukraine, bribed, and then subordinate, Russia automatically becomes an empire”
        here is the full quote .... though, IMHO Brzezinski was wrong
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    3. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 1 November 2019 19: 20
      +7
      This is why they write such articles, because the Slavic population with its "hit on the left - substitute the right" was brought to bestiality, I would call it "Slavic cannibalism." And if in the 17th year brother went for brother for an idea, then here it is like bickering of rats in one volume. Instead of repelling external influences, all the steam went into a squabble between their own. We also have a saying "hit your own so that others are afraid." Maybe strangers are afraid, but the cream of this slaughterhouse is regularly skimmed. And if you look at the map, then there will be more Slavs (including Catholics) than the rest of Europe.
  4. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 1 November 2019 15: 32
    -1
    Poles very clearly and intelligibly show where the place of Ukraine in Europe.
    One would like to say: what they fought for - in that place they got it.
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 1 November 2019 15: 33
    +15
    The author ABSOLUTELY does not own the topic. The article is written on the basis of quotes from our Russian media.
    I can tell him the current state of affairs, since I was in Poland on official business several times (purchasing equipment), where I came across workers from Ukraine, Belarus and .. Georgia.
    Photos of housing, rather commonplace in Russia. An employee in Poland is provided with either a hostel or a rented apartment / house. Often at the expense of the employer.
    The latter also provides free travel to the place of work.
    Wage. Indicated in the article, this is MINIMUM. For carers, cleaners, gardeners. A builder, bus / truck driver, crane operator, factory worker earns an average of 1000-1200 dollars. More than a hundred or two hundred lives, the rest sends to Ukroina. Which, incidentally, is very supportive of the country's budget.
    By the way, about six months ago there was an article about how an unscrupulous employer took out a sick Ukrainian worker and left him to die. The Ukrainian died, but the case was uncovered. The criminal was tried and the Poles across the country collected more than MILLION zlotys and sent them to the family of the deceased.
    The author ignores such facts ....
    1. NKT
      NKT 1 November 2019 15: 46
      -3
      An employee in Poland is provided with either a hostel or a rented apartment / house. Often at the expense of the employer.
      The latter also provides free travel to the place of work.
      Wage. Indicated in the article, this is MINIMUM. For carers, cleaners, gardeners. Builder, bus / truck driver, crane operator, factory worker earns an average of $ 1000-1200

      Is it legal to get a job?
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 1 November 2019 15: 51
        +4
        Probably yes. I communicated with workers in large enterprises. But, I think, the time of the "underground" is gone. Does it make sense for an employee to risk being deported if he can work officially?
      2. Avior
        Avior 1 November 2019 17: 37
        +6
        Now almost everything is legal there.
        There is no sense illegally.
        Permission from the Poles is very simple.
        Moreover, in some cases, even a work visa does not need to be issued.
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  7. vanavatny
    vanavatny 1 November 2019 15: 40
    +4
    I wonder why there are no nomadic hordes of Belarusian migrant workers? the heady air of free poland nearby
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 1 November 2019 15: 53
      +1
      They need a visa. As far as I know, in Belarus it is more complicated than in Ukraine. And visa-free taxis!)
      1. vanavatny
        vanavatny 1 November 2019 15: 56
        -4
        whoever needs to leave, hunger is not an aunt, and I have never met them in Russia, Ukrainians wandered from Lisbon to Vladivostok both to visa-free and to Maidan
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    2. dgonni
      dgonni 2 November 2019 19: 11
      +1
      There is no visa-free visa and biometrics! Syabry there are in considerable quantities. The question is, they fun to migrate further. Ideal Germany and better Norway. But in Norway, in fact, from 5 years on a tower in the seas.
  8. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 1 November 2019 15: 42
    +4
    My neighbor, three years ago, worked in Poland in Gdansk as an electrician at an oil refinery, when he was 21 years old. I ask if there are any sense in this age for 600 euros, all week for 9 hours, and on Friday night home, on Sunday back (Kaliningrad). He says there’s no point in buying money, but it's cool, he’s got a block of cigarettes from his master’s house, and he let him go an hour earlier, the work of rolling and unrolling the cable isn’t stressful, but the Poles don’t go at it. He had a normal relationship with his master,
    1. Avior
      Avior 1 November 2019 17: 40
      +1
      The ratio may be normal, but they pay a little.
      The real income of an electrician in Poland is about 1000 euros.
  9. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 1 November 2019 16: 01
    +10
    someone is very pleased to mock poor relatives .. it is strange that they did not draw an analogy with migrant workers in Russia. from the same Central Asia. which are much more disenfranchised with us .. than Ukrainians in Poland.
    1. tacet
      tacet 1 November 2019 17: 01
      +3
      Do you work a lot with migrant workers from Middle Asia?
      Everything for Gaster is exactly the same, especially who has been working with us for several years and is able to do something (except how to dig). They will always earn their 50-60 rubles a month (not by speed, so by the length of the working day) and they will make a patent both registration, and even citizenship (that would not cling to them). Living conditions and food are their choice (either bring home more money for the New Year, or sleep softly and eat sweetly) .suum cuique.
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      2. Stas157
        Stas157 3 November 2019 06: 53
        +1
        Quote: tacet
        Work a lot with migrant workers ...
        Living conditions and food - their choice (Either bring home more money for the New Year, or sleep softly and eat sweetly.) vacuum cuique.

        So the Poles say so.

        I personally have seen many times under what conditions migrant workers live hiding in unimaginable quantities in the huts. In conditions absolutely unsuitable for housing. Without heating, without water and, accordingly, without sewage. And this is in our harsh climate. I think the Polish conditions will not be worse.
  10. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 1 November 2019 16: 04
    -10
    "We are worse than cattle here." Labor migration in Ukrainian

    Soon they will speak like a parrot Kesha: "Eh! Vovka loved me so much, he literally carried me in his arms."
    And winter is coming ...
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 1 November 2019 18: 26
      +4
      Quote: ROSS 42
      And winter is coming ..

      Well, Ukraine will definitely not survive this winter. Well, a hundred percent will fall apart. Now, for sure: sarcasm :.
      Quote: ROSS 42
      "Eh! Vovka loved me so much, he literally carried me in his arms."

      “Do elephants love piglets, and HOW do they love them?" ..
      1. AK1972
        AK1972 2 November 2019 09: 56
        +3
        What year has Ukraine not experienced winter? Fifth or sixth?
        Quote: revnagan
        НUkraine will definitely not survive this winter here. Well, stopitotsot percent will fall apart.
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 November 2019 16: 53
    -1
    I hope that the remnants of Ukrainians will understand their real place in the "ceevrope". I have always said that they themselves punish Ukrainians the best. You just have to let them go and then they themselves know how best to "kill themselves against the wall."
  12. Alexander X
    Alexander X 1 November 2019 17: 09
    +1
    It is quite natural that when a visitor somehow "encourages" the locals, albeit in non-prestigious jobs, he will not be welcomed with open arms ... But if Ukrainians go to Poland, then it suits them. Yes, any person, let alone a Ukrainian, always wants even more ... Well, since Gaster is allowed into the host country, it means that it is beneficial to the country's government ... There will always be a struggle of opposites ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 1 November 2019 17: 44
      +6
      Satisfied, because the reality is far from that described in the article.
      What is written in the article is special cases, which have just gained fame, since they are not typical.
      In most cases, the Poles they are indignant no less than the Ukrainians, as with this case from the cafe. There are few illegal immigrants there now, neither the worker nor the employer needs this, the procedure is quite simple.
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  14. kosovvskiy
    kosovvskiy 1 November 2019 18: 01
    0
    Quote: kjhg
    Russia can become great, both with Ukraine and without. But for this we need appropriate power in the country.


    Any ideas where to get such power?

    Or first we remove this, and then we will understand?

    It seems to have been tried twice already 100 years ago and 30 years ago. Bullshit turns out.
  15. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 1 November 2019 19: 27
    -4
    Smart Ukrainians go to work in Russia, knowing that in Russia no one will touch them and here they are their own.
  16. Dym71
    Dym71 1 November 2019 19: 57
    +6
    Therefore, this niche with varying degrees of success is occupied by workers from Ukraine, although their average earnings nevertheless do not reach 1000 and amount to 600-650 euros.

    I don’t care how Ukrainians work in Poland, it’s their business, I’m more interested in the fact that the minimum wage - 600 euros = 42 rubles - this is where Mr. Evgeny Fedorov needs to be worried!
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      1. Dym71
        Dym71 2 November 2019 21: 38
        0
        Poke at home to your woman! hi
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 2 November 2019 21: 42
          -1
          Couldn’t say anything smarter? This is the Internet, everyone is equal here, so poking is not shameful. When there is nothing to challenge, digging begins to all garbage.
  17. Amurets
    Amurets 2 November 2019 05: 25
    +1
    However, the general level of attitude of Poles to Ukrainians cannot be compared with the hospitality of Russia. Victims after the arson of a hostel in Warsaw, the zarobitchans openly admitted that it was sometimes difficult for us, but that they would be thrown with Molotov cocktails in the capital ...
    What did you like the western Ukrainians? Until 1940 you were a cattle for Poland, and since 1991 you became him again.
  18. iouris
    iouris 2 November 2019 12: 20
    +1
    They are not Ukrainians, but Russians, and this is an attitude towards Russians. Russians can live and earn only in Russia. If this is not possible, then this is a problem.
  19. demiurg
    demiurg 2 November 2019 15: 02
    -2
    At least write, but now Ukraine has slipped to the level of Uzbekistan, when a considerable part of the able-bodied population is working in either Russia or Poland.
    And here either trolls or ipsoshniks sit who claim that working semi-legally abroad is happiness.
    If a person goes to work semi-legally / yes or legally for 60tyr for distant lands, this means that in his homeland a fierce ass.
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  21. Million
    Million 3 November 2019 09: 09
    +3
    A friend went to Moscow to work. He slept somewhere under a staircase on a pile of cardboard .. Not from Ukraine, but from central Russia. Yes, and for some Muscovites, a working day takes 16 hours, taking into account the road.
    1. Alex Fox
      Alex Fox 4 November 2019 11: 35
      0
      why did he sleep somewhere under the stairs? if worked I settled the brigades in hostels, a room for 4 people 600 rubles per day. Subtracted from their salary. And no one had to sleep on the stairs, according to nationalities I do not share. I provide housing for everyone. Ukram too .... Just recently, a team of 3 months made an apartment on Kutozovsky Prospekt. The team from Lviv. They earned more money than in Poland, they worked with us until 2014, and then they stopped, and from this year they resumed work.
  22. Alex Fox
    Alex Fox 4 November 2019 11: 31
    -1
    Ukrainians are born slaves ...
  23. doka
    doka 5 November 2019 00: 53
    -1
    Here, one not respected one spoke out that Ukrainians were born slaves, how Russian differs from Ukrainian or Belarus, Russians were not slaves or smerds, We are all in one world anointed,
  24. monster
    monster 7 November 2019 05: 28
    0
    With a rag along the Svidomo face, KHRYATS !!!