Upgraded BOD project 1155 re-qualify as frigates

Large anti-submarine ships of the 1155 project will be upgraded and reclassified. As transmits Mil.Press FlotProm with reference to a senior source in the Navy's commander in chief, after modernization, the BOD will become frigates.

Large anti-submarine ships of the 1155 project will become frigates, a decision on this has already been made at the Ministry of Defense. The first summer of this year, the Marshal Shaposhnikov BPC, which is undergoing modernization at the Dalzavod in Vladivostok, was officially retrained. The rest will be retrained after passing the modernization. According to the source, the modernized ships will combine the capabilities of carriers of precision cruise missiles and anti-submarine ships.

As previously reported, during the modernization of the ships of this project, the Uran anti-ship complex with X-35 missiles, the universal launcher for cruise missiles Caliber, Onyx or Zircon, the universal fire control system for naval artillery Bagira are installed , shipborne electronic jamming system TK-25.

What will remain of the armament that previously stood on the ship is not known. Previously, it consisted of: two 100-mm gun mounts AK-100, two 45-mm semi-automatic guns 21-KM, four 30-mm ZAK AK-630, two air defense systems "Dagger", two anti-submarine complex "Trumpet-B", two reactive - RBU-6000 bomb installations, as well as torpedo tubes. Two Ka-27PL helicopters are based on board the BOD.

The total displacement of the ships of the 1155 project is 7570 tons, the hull length is 163,5 meters. Speed ​​- up to 32 nodes, cruising range - 5 thousand miles on 18 nodes, autonomy - 30 days. Crew - 220 people (including 29 officers).

Comments

[hrych]

Well, fine. They become powerful strike units from defensive systems, and these functions will not go anywhere.

[Alexander Suvorov]

grunt (grunt)
Well, fine. They become powerful strike units from defensive systems, and these functions will not go anywhere.

No offense to you, but in terms of shock power, I suppose they will still be much inferior to Arly-Burke. All the same, the BOD is even modernized, it’s not a strike destroyer.

[hrych]

With a universal launcher and supersonic Onyxes, and hyperZircons, as well as anti-ship missiles with caliber, which switch to supersonic, striking power will be higher than Burke in the anti-ship battle, because our systems are superior in range and speed. Regarding strategic Caliber, there is also a nuance here, we rely on nuclear weapons, moreover, for both strategic and tactical weapons, including anti-ship missiles, but they don’t. Therefore, Burke is resting.

[Alexander Suvorov]

grunt (Grunt) Therefore, Burke is resting.

You probably did not understand me correctly. It is not so much about the type and class of missiles as about their quantity. How many PUs will be and under which missiles on these BODs, and most importantly, what will be the ammunition in the end?

[Jerk]

And we do not have a task to hammer the shore with axes. Just not at all

[Alexander Suvorov]

Jerk
And we do not have a task to hammer the shore with axes. Just no wink at all

Not for today, but for tomorrow? The world is changing, and military concepts are changing. No, I understand that our doctrine will always dance from the defense, but still you never know what.
It’s clear that Burke was originally sharpened by a massive blow with axes, but it would not hurt us to have something like that in our arsenal. But we have the marines, so why not have something that can hammer on the shore and clear its way?

[Berkut24]

Not for today, but for tomorrow? The world is changing, and military concepts are changing.

And tomorrow, perhaps, the task will be to dig a channel between Mexico and Canada wider between the Pacific and Atlantic oceans. But this is not a task for "Calibers" and frigates.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

why not have something that can hollow along the shore and clear its way?

And there is. And this is not only "Caliber". Even "loaves" (pr.949A) with their "Granites" will calmly process the coast if necessary. The latter has been confirmed in practice - the Smolensk submarine was fired upon.

[hrych]

Quote: Jerk

And we don’t have a task shore with axes

There is already such a task. Under this RTOs, the Watchdogs and Dizelyuhi imprisoned, not to mention Nakhimov, Yaseny, etc. It was not for nothing that they worked in Syria, though unfortunately they are not in the nuclear version. You understand that even in the Caspian, even the Caliber in the RCC is redundant, but the mobile platform of the strategic system is very, very promising.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: hrych

You understand that even in the Caspian, even the Caliber in the RCC is redundant, but the mobile platform of the strategic system is very, very promising.

Paradox, but in the Caspian the "calibers" are redundant only in the anti-ship missile version. I still remember the malice of some "experts" about the construction of the Caspian "calibrators" - whom they drown in the Caspian - there all possible goals cost less than RCC.
But in the SLCM version they were really needed there (at least until they left the INF Treaty) - with them the Caspian flotilla turned from a handful of ships of the closed sea into a regional strategic force. However, this became clear only after the actual 3M-14 range was found out in practice.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Jerk

And we do not have a task to hammer the shore with axes. Just not at all

[Livonetc]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

grunt (Grunt) Therefore, Burke is resting.

You probably did not understand me correctly. It is not so much about the type and class of missiles as about their quantity. How many PUs will be and under which missiles on these BODs, and most importantly, what will be the ammunition in the end?

In this case, there is a possibility of parity due to the greater range of anti-ship strike means of the Russian ship.
If Burke will be hit with all the ammunition available, and Burke will not have the opportunity to answer, then the outcome of the duel (if we consider the duel) will be sad for him.
Even if his air defense systems intercept most of the missiles, he will be incapacitated and unable to continue the confrontation.
The issue of ammunition may be relevant in the event of a clash of groups of ships.
However, in this case too, superiority in the range of the striking means will be of decisive importance.
Next, you can consider participating in the clash of aircraft carrier connection from an incredible partner.
This will enable the adversary to pursue the Russian graffiti of ships.
However, the hypothetical place of the ongoing actions should be taken into account.
Since Russia uses a defense doctrine, and an incredible proactive partner, an attack scenario near our borders is likely.
In this case, they can come into effect as coastal anti-ship systems and air defense systems.
Undoubtedly, the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces based on ground airfields will come into force.

I apologize for profanity, I consider possible scenarios using standard logic.

On the topic, I think it is absolutely right to build up defensive capabilities with minimal costs.
Even when the situation with the construction of new large warships significantly improves the relevance of the modernization of existing facilities, this will not cancel.

[Alexander Suvorov]

I agree with all that has been said, especially with the need for modernization. Sometimes equipment after modernization is not inferior to the latest models. Especially when there is a lot of it!

[kapitan92]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

I agree with all that has been said, especially with the need for modernization. Sometimes equipment after modernization is not inferior to the latest models. Especially when there is a lot of it!

Are there many of her?
From 1980 to 1991, 13 BODs of project 1155 were built (one of them was for improved project 1155.1). To date, eight such ships remain in service - four in the Pacific Fleet and the same in the North.
The frigates of the project 80, built back in the 1155s, turned out to be technically perfect and unpretentious, have proven themselves well, and the sailors praise them.
The modernization has matured, given that we will not receive new destroyers until 2027.
After modernization, 10-15 years will last.
How long will it take to upgrade one ship?
In 2016 year BPK "Marshal Shaposhnikov" got up for repair and modernization at JSC "Center for ship repair" Dalzavod "(Vladivostok). Sea trials of the ship are scheduled for the end of 2019. The transfer to the fleet of the BPC Marshal Shaposhnikov should take place in 2020

[Sling cutter]

Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov) The displacement of the yachts of the current Russian lords of the rings exceeds the displacement of surface ships of the Navy

[Alexander Suvorov]

Stroporez (Private Airborne)
The displacement of the yachts of the current Russian lords of the rings exceeds the displacement of surface ships of the Navy

You won’t believe it, but I’m in the know!

[Sling cutter]

Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov) I’m thinking that they can be retrained.
In corvettes, frigates or give cannibals ...

[hydrox]

Correctly thinking: the likelihood that AUG will be used against Russia is extremely low :: to the Yankees, it finally dawned that with Russian striking aids it is enough to keep the AUG at a distance of one and a half to two thousand kilometers from our coast to nullify the drums the possibilities of any AUG, leaving a wide field of activity for amateurs to shoot at aircraft carriers simply for reasons of getting the Hero Star, disabling the main AUG unit.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Livonetc

In this case, there is a possibility of parity due to the greater range of anti-ship strike means of the Russian ship.

For the time being more. For LRASM has already been tested for a vertical start from the UVP Mk41.

[hrych]

BOD, a ship in the far zone, it is not worth keeping it in the coastal defense zone, there are ships in the near zone with the same caliber, including strategic ones. And here's another Soviet doctrine of "aircraft carrier killers" in our country was based on the use of supersonic anti-ship missiles with a nuclear warhead. Those. a supersonic rocket jumped out over the horizon and was blown up without entering the side, but covering with striking factors, and, so that the detonation distance to the target and the radius was larger, very powerful charges were used. And although anti-ship missiles were equated with tactical nuclear weapons, the charges are impressive. Granite has a half-megaton, and the X-22 has up to a megaton. But the faster it flies, the sooner the detonation when jumping out from behind the radio horizon of the target's air defense and the further the detonation from the target, the more likely it is not to be intercepted by the air defense. Apparently the new generation of anti-ship missiles, of course, carries less charge, but the algorithms are also close to the Soviet doctrine. And let's say (hypothetically), Burke and Nash, discovered each other at the same time, Burke fired a salvo with a subsonic Harpoon from 800 km / h, and Nash fired simultaneously Onyx with Mach 2-2,6, i.e. the speed of our anti-ship missiles is three times, if not four times. Those. they will be hit three times faster and harder for him to fight back. And ours will still have time to fire at other targets, even if he himself falls the death of the brave. And if it's hypersonic Zircon? And if the warhead is 300 kilotons ... Okay, in the AUG, there is a Hakai AWACS and a supersonic air wing, but Burke is purely a victim and a victim

[orionvitt]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

not so much about the type and class of missiles as about their number

What difference does it make how many "axes" are there on the Burke? 50, or 90. The main thing is that it is demolished by one "Onyx", or "Zircon".

[hydrox]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

How many PUs will be and under which missiles on these BODs, and most importantly, what will be the ammunition in the end?

In your description of the merits of any of the hundreds of Burks there is just no main thing: how long will he be able to remain in the status of a strike unit from the moment we declare martial law.
I don’t think that for more than half an hour (if it will not be under repair) - for the rest of the long time it will remain in the form and status of underwater scrap metal - let alone our navy have a choice than let it go to the bottom.

[Alexander Suvorov]

hydrox (hydrox)
In your description of the merits of any of the hundreds of Burks

God forbid me to paint the "dignity" of the enemy. On the contrary, I am very critical of American advertising of everything and everyone. In this they have no equal, take at least the PR of their "wunderwafli" Fu-35. It was necessary to try very hard to get a wet plane so into it.
And as for

how long can he remain in the status of a strike unit from the moment we declare martial law.
Don't think more than half an hour

here I would not make such optimistic statements. If Burke comes close to our turvods, yes, yes, but if he is in the middle of the Atlantic, how will we get him?

[hydrox]

And here we must proceed from the fact that, within the radius of combat use, it is not scary for us in the middle of the Atlantic (if it is not in combat patrol to destroy our convoys).
But on the other hand, there is a submarine for this ...

[A.TOR]

What are the Russian convoys in the Atlantic in the event of a conflict with the United States?

[hydrox]

For those on APCs :: for example LNG, trade with Africa, Venezuelan oil.
It would be necessary to refresh the knowledge of economic geography in school ...

[A.TOR]

In the event of a conflict with the US Navy there will be no LNG, trade with Africa and Venezuelan oil.
If now, right now, "to score" on all weapons programs, except for the fleet, then to create something adequate will take 25 - 27 years. (USA stands still)

[hydrox]

Thank you, I heard you.

[Grits]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

and if he is in the middle of the Atlantic, how will we get it?

And then it will be like the elusive Joe. Who needs it and is interesting in the middle of the Atlantic?

[hydrox]

Exactly!
Therefore, we talk about the radius of combat use ...

[hydrox]

Anyone offended by God who has neglected this comment can find at least one healthy gram of his brain in order to explain why he omitted?

[hydrox]

Explanation for kvass patriots :: HYDROX is one of the gas mixture recipes for scuba diving combat swimmers.
Clear?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: hydrox

HYDROX is one of the scuba mix gas formulations

Hydrogen-oxygen mixture is, if without unnecessary pathos. And it’s not at all necessary for

Quote: hydrox

for scuba diving combat swimmers

Clear?

[hydrox]

Kvasny do not need to know about hydrogen, otherwise they will be scared ...
And what, have you ever met with divers in cylinders of hydrox?
And one more thing: the word diver can be a stranger to strangers and can only anger.

[musorg]

When you find out, then make a conclusion!

[maidan.izrailovich]

Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov)
How many PUs will be and under which missiles on these BODs, and most importantly, what will be the ammunition in the end?

That's it. What and how much?
But you already passed the verdict.

[bayard]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

It is not so much about the type and class of missiles as about their quantity. How many PUs will be and under which missiles on these BODs, and most importantly, what will be the ammunition in the end?

If we rely on the previous modernization projects 1155, then we can assume that instead of the "Trumpet" they will receive the "Waterfall" with a start from the TA, in place of the PU "Trumpet" they will place from 2 to 4 PU for the X-35, 4 missiles each in each (total - up to 16 anti-ship missiles X-35), and instead of the second gun and its turret space can be placed from 16 to 24 UVP for the KR family "Caliber" \ "Onyx" \ "Zircon".
It is difficult to say about the air defense system, but "Polyment-Redut" will hardly appear there - it is expensive, troublesome and not for long, the resource for the corps will be enough for another 10-15 years.

[Sling cutter]

grunt (grunt)Burke is resting, and the yacht Usmanova steers

[Lexus]

Colleague
Now the "galley" team will go to the Internet and will stick you Mendels for encroaching on the sacred. Turn on the duro box, accept the prosium, and you will be happy!

[Sling cutter]

Lexus (Alex) Good afternoon!
My colleague, as a true bondman, prefers bayar and oak bark, very pacifies.

[Cyrus]

And with a couple of turbolasers, there’s a fairy tale, if you could replace your brains and everything would be okd ok.

[Serg65]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

this is not a strike destroyer.

That's right, this is an anti-submarine frigate with elements of strike weapons ... and that's it!

[Armata T-14]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

All the same, the BOD is even modernized, it’s not a strike destroyer.

This is a destroyer. It’s only better than Burke, because he has only a primitive subsonic, and these will have supersonic, and possibly even hypersonic. Enough to belittle the dignity of our aircraft

[Alexander Suvorov]

Armata T-14 (Hypersound) Enough to belittle the dignity of our aircraft

And there was no thought!

[Cyrus]

And what kind of difference, for example, will kill a subsonic or super sonic bullet, a rocket, or?

[Armata T-14]

Probably the difference is that the supersonic chance to pass ship's air defense is higher

[maidan.izrailovich]

Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov)
No offense to you, but in terms of shock power, I suppose they will still be much inferior to Arly-Burke. All the same, the BOD is even modernized, it’s not a strike destroyer.

You still don’t really know what and how much will be installed during the modernization, but you have already issued the verdict.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: hrych

Moreover, these functions will not go anywhere.

That's right, he has been imprisoned for this since the construction.

[Alexander Suvorov]

Well, then the bread. Since we are not building new ships of this class, we will at least modernize the Soviet legacy to an acceptable level. Seven feet under the keel!

[Kurare]

Quote: Alexander Suvorov

Since we are not building new ships of this class, we will at least modernize the Soviet legacy to an acceptable level.

Shows just how "tough nuts" all the same 1155th! There is still potential for modernization. And they turned out beautiful.

[Tiksi-3]

4 years ago he wrote that all BODs need to be modernized .... I wonder what kind of anti-aircraft defense they are waiting for .. from shock they will have enough Uranus .... their task in the warrant is to provide anti-aircraft defense and part of anti-aircraft defense .... percussion should be Gorshkovs!

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Tiksi-3

I wonder what air defense is waiting for them

The BNK of the 1155 project has an inherent flaw - the maximum firing range of the PLUR exceeds the detection range of the CEO. To realize all the capabilities of the PLUR, it is necessary to use the Ka-27PL anti-submarine helicopter, which itself carries anti-submarine torpedoes and can drown an enemy submarine that it detects on its own, without using an anti-submarine missile with a BOD. So the PLO remains unchanged. By the way, the old Dagger air defense system with a range of 12 km remains on the ship.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

To realize all the capabilities of the PLUR, you need to use the Ka-27PL anti-submarine helicopter,

so he can’t hang for 24 hours! ... so you need to put something new on the ship

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

By the way, the old Dagger air defense system with a range of 12 km remains on the ship.

Well, this is really bad ... as with PLO .... sorry ...

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Recall that they plan to deliver (according to public procurement):
3P-14H-1155 1
3C-14-1155 2
3P-60Y 1
3С-24 "Uranus" 2
MP-123-02 / 3 Bagira 1
MP-710 1
5П-30Н2 «Фрегат-МА4К» 1
5P-30P “Floodplain-M1” 1
P-779-28 1
TK-25-2 1
Already the entire superstructure under the 2-th GK tower to the upper deck under the navigation bridge was cut off. Instead, they mounted a podium under the modules of universal UVP missiles of the Caliber family. My opinion is that UKKS will be used only for the Kyrgyz Republic and PLUR.

[bayard]

And how many UVP is supposed to be instead of the second gun? In the photo 2 UKKS (on 8 pieces in each), but there is still the same amount of space, at least.
And what about the repair of the power plant? Have you come up with something? After all, nothing worked before and the contractor could not be found.
But if it is possible to prolong the life of such swallows of the fleet as 1155, but with modernization for "Caliber" ... yes at the Pacific Fleet ... it will be a breakthrough.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: bayard

And how many UVP is supposed to be instead of the second gun? In the photo 2 UKKS (on 8 pieces in each), but there is still the same amount of space, at least.
And what about the repair of the power plant? Have you come up with something? After all, nothing worked before and the contractor could not be found.
But if it is possible to prolong the life of such swallows of the fleet as 1155, but with modernization for "Caliber" ... yes at the Pacific Fleet ... it will be a breakthrough.

2 UKKS only

Quote: bayard

And what about the repair of the power plant? Have you come up with something? After all, nothing worked before and the contractor could not be found.

We have problems with the repair of Ukrainian-made turbines. OJSC Novik, which was repairing turbines, was covered and did not even pay its salary. https://severpost.ru/read/85003/

[bayard]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

We have problems with the repair of Ukrainian-made turbines. OJSC Novik, which was repairing turbines, was covered and did not even pay its salary.

Here I am about that. A new article appeared on the modernization of 1155, but the repair of a power plant is the old way ... I decided it was a sinful thing to find a contractor capable of this ... and this is another letter with a statement of dreams.
Based on the problems with the repair of power plants in 1155, as I understand it, their modernization is canceled, but there will be maintenance in service of serviceable boards. Until the arrival of the fleets 22350, 22350+ and 22350M. The industry is apparently not capable of more.
Sorry, good ships. And as platforms for modernization.
But apparently not fate.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: bayard

Based on the problems with the repair of power plants at 1155, as I understand it, their modernization is canceled, but there will be maintenance in service of serviceable boards. Until the arrival of the fleets 22350, 22350 + and 22350M.

That's right. There is no other way.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: bayard

Based on the problems with the repair of power plants in 1155, as I understand it, their modernization is canceled

I suppose that 2020 will be decisive: what we can, what we will really do ...

[bayard]

Yes, the year has begun rapidly, but it can really become a turning point ... as expected.

[Artemiy_2]

Well, by the way, the commander of the Pacific Fleet said that they would put a new gas generator on Shaposhnikov and replace the route cable. I also had to boil the case. It looks like the service life of Soviet ships is doubled. OCD is also open for dagger modernization, as far as I remember

[tihonmarine]

Whatever you call it, what is the difference between a BOD or a frigate without a difference. This is a normal large ship for general use. According to the NPT designation system, it was a frigate. The BOD abbreviation is associated with casuistry during the passage of some straits and port calls. There were problems in the post-war period. And they wanted to have their own Russian trace. When I served on 61 projects, I liked the "big anti-submarine ship" more. Sounds.

[bessmertniy]

Indeed, when something is called "big" - it causes pride. Maybe the frigate is called something similar. For example, the "great frigate" Marshal Shaposhnikov.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: bessmertniy

Indeed, when something is called "big" - it causes pride. Maybe the frigate is called something similar. For example, the "great frigate" Marshal Shaposhnikov.

Quite reasonable ... modestly ... the cruiser Marshal Shaposhnikov.
By world standards, this is quite correct.
At one time, the Americans transferred their frigates to the rank of cruisers ... but they were about the same displacement, and were not overloaded with weapons ...

[Pavel57]

The spread is very large - for all tastes: either Uranus or Zircon ...

[alexmach]

But air defense ....

The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.

[certero]

If all is well, at least 50 calibers will be a great ship

[Alexey-74]

I think this is the right decision. BOD will become shock, and missile systems, albeit not in quantity but in quality, will surpass those of Burke.

[Djusha]

wow, from the wiki:

In 1944, a modification of the 21-KM gun was launched into production. Work on the modernization of the 21-K gun was begun at OKB-172 in 1942 under the BM-42 index. The main series of 25 barrels was successfully tested in September 1943, after which the 21-KM gun was put into mass production.

The gun’s modernization resulted in a 1010 mm increase in the threaded part of the barrel, the replacement of inertial automation with a copy, hardening of the barrel and recoil devices, and the installation of a shield (shield cover).

The 21-KM guns up to the present time (2000s) are used on the ships of the Russian Navy as salute guns

[Armata T-14]

Total displacement of ships of the project 1155 - 7570 tons

What kind of frigates are these? These are destroyers

[Veteran]

Franco-Italian frigates of the "Horizon" type have a displacement of 6700 tons, a little less.

[mark1]

And what has become of the "frigate" in the former BOD? Is it more logical to call yourself a "destroyer" or will we now have cruisers 1164 downgraded to destroyers (well, logically)?

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: mark1

And what has become of the "frigate" in the former BOD?

The number of missiles is increased by 2 times, the range of fire on surface targets is increased by 3 times, it is possible to fire at ground targets from a long distance (which did not exist before). Since the ship remains the old Dagger air defense system with a range of 12 km, it does not pull the URO destroyer. After the upgrade, there will be 16 Caliber and 8 Uranus.

[mark1]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Since the ship remains the old Dagger air defense system with a range of 12 km, it will not pull the URO destroyer.

The ship was originally created as a destroyer but with a FULL specialization and paired it with pr.956 with shock functions similar to the Sprouts (the fact that different hulls and remote control are costs of the realities of the late USSR) So he pulled the URO destroyer and it pulls since it is in fact, and according to the corresponding VI.
And the fact that the "Dagger" will remain in the article is not indicated.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: mark1

And the fact that the "Dagger" will remain in the article is not indicated.

In addition to this article, there are also articles on the modernization of the BOD of the 1155 project in bmpd and information on public procurement on the website of the Dalzavod.

[mark1]

A sad fact, but that does not change the essence.

[The Siberian barber]

Upgrade first! And then, as you wish)) With such a pace of modernization, there will be nothing to retrain

[89625588851]

Modernization of project 1155 is of course a very necessary matter, BUT damn it has been said for ten years already, no less, but the fleet has not really received the modernization of the BOD (frigate), so far they have rotted faster ...

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

At the Marshal Shaposhnikov BPK, almost a quarter of the hull was digested due to corrosion. Not to mention the cable routes, which changed everything. I think they will pass, at best, at the end of next year. The modernization of the ship implies a thorough repair of its power plant, and we have problems with the repair of Ukrainian-made turbines. In general, they are modernizing something there, the BOD has not burned out into scrap metal, in case of a fire near the wall - and it's good.

[Monster_Fat]

Not .... not just "frigates", but "frigates" ...

[Lexus]

A series of 12 (+1) BOD Project 1155 was built from 1977 to 1990. The latest, according to the improved project 1155.1, was launched in 1992 by the Admiral Chabanenko. 4 ships have already been decommissioned and scrapped. While they are "modernizing", the Americans will withdraw the 1st series "Burke" into the reserve (we have no such culture, almost immediately "on pins and needles"). The proposed modernization is "budgetary" and therefore flawed. "Caliber" and "Uranus" are being shoveled, but the ships will not have full-fledged air defense. See how the Chinese have modernized the destroyers of the 956 Sarych project for comparison. So, the "choppers" in Alang and Chittagong cry for them (Indian and Bangladeshi "friends" will always "help" to get rid of the "accursed Soviet legacy").

R / V Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin in Alang

Continue daydreaming about the "achievements" of modern Russia and drooling over the models of the Krylov Center. There will be no more fleet.

No money! But you hold on! (WITH)

Melnichenko, Abramovich, Usmanov, Alekperov and others look at you from their yachts, rejoice ... and laugh at you

[Brylevsky]

I passed training camp on it in 2000, an understudy of the commander of the warhead-3. Impression for life!

[Vladimir1155]

A weighted decision, to upgrade fairly successful and relatively numerous ships, instead of unnecessary superlink destroyers and aircraft carriers. Frigates (riflemen) are the largest class of surface ships for solving a wide range of tasks, peacetime and wartime, which makes sense to have Russia with its purely defense doctrine and the absence of colonies. However, the main striking force of the fleet (the long arm of Moscow) is submarines. ICBMs, air defense and coastal aviation also require special attention and development in maritime directions.

[huntsman650]

An article about the skin of an unkilled bear (((. Everyone is standing on the engines.