Military Review

The roots of the weed called "Ukrainization of the Kuban"

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On October 17, Alexey Goncharenko announced the creation of the Kuban inter-factional association with well-known goals.



Goncharenko in the House of Trade Unions of Odessa


Goncharenko himself is known for three things. First, he is a stunning example of Ukrainian political flexibility. Like a frightened hare, he galloped from the “green” Soyuz party to the Party of Regions, and when he smelled fried, he quickly joined Poroshenko’s “European Solidarity”.

Secondly, this character during a tragedy in the House of Trade Unions with cannibalistic enthusiasm shot corpses of people who were burned alive on a smartphone. After this "hero" stated that he "cleared the Kulikovo field from the separatist camp."

Thirdly, such a person was not ignored by the affection of home-grown liberals. Back in the 2012 year, Joseph Reichelgauz, a theater director (according to him), handed Goncharenko a letter of honor from the Union of Theater Workers of Russia signed by Kalyagin. What distinguished Alex in the theatrical field is not known for certain. The author assumes that the innate liberal "sensation" of our leaders has already suggested that Alexei is their man.

Thus, we can only laugh at the new initiative of such representatives of the Rada, who have been falling out of hand year after year, and any initiative is working with a vacuum cleaner from the budget. Moreover, such attacks are not uncommon. Political Ukrainian nationalism has always worked only in the paradigm of hatred of Russia, if the Russian factor is removed from this equation, then the meaning of the existence of “Svidomo” will be reduced to the hamster’s life formula: eat, sleep and throw out its legs. But not so simple.

The roots of the weed called "Ukrainization of the Kuban"

Goncharenko and Rayhelgauz


A bit of history


All wet dreams of Ukraine about the Kuban are based on stories the arrival of the Cossacks to Taman and the political chaos that has been going on in Russia for several years, starting with the 1917 year. In fact, in 1792, the Cossacks-Cossacks of the relatively newly formed Black Sea troops landed on the land of Taman granted by Empress Catherine II. That's just they were not pioneers and close neither in the Kuban, nor in the North Caucasus.

The author will not recall the ancient Russian Tmutarakan principality that existed on these lands a thousand years ago. The author will not even mention that the first embassies and military expeditions to these lands were sent even during the reign of John Vasilyevich. It is only worth pointing out that the Cossacks did not land on a deserted wild coast. They were met by fighters of the Tauride Jaeger Corps. And if the Cossacks didn’t raise the St. Andrew’s flag in time, then the Jäger commander, Prime Minister Christopher Rosenberg, who at first mistook the Cossack sailing and sailing vessels for the Turkish landing, there would have been no Cossacks coming to Taman at all. And there would be force majeure to the joy of the local hamsa.


Monument to the Cossacks on Taman


No, no one intends to dispute the contribution of the Cossacks to the development of this land, but this contribution was far from the only and not decisive. And here it is necessary to indicate a piquant detail. The fertile lands of the Kuban were not taken to the Cossacks by beautiful eyes. They were obliged to create and control the so-called Black Sea cordon line, originating in the 1793-1794 years. However, after less than thirty years, the legendary General Ermolov, inspecting the line of fortifications, was beside himself from the complete incapacity of the line. To solve the problem, the general actively recruited the Don Cossacks, who, as a result, arranged the fortifications and the region itself was unlike the previous owners. And the command itself passed to the Don Cossack General Maxim Grigoryevich Vlasov. Thus formed two "Cossacks." Cossacks-Cossacks were called Black Sea inhabitants, and Don Cossacks were called lineers.

Russian hard times


Distemper always allows you to come to the political surface by conceited, greedy and selfish, but not realized personalities. So it was in the Kuban during the years of Russian hard times. In 1917, the Kuban Military Council usurped power in the region. Its representatives themselves have already appointed the regional Council, and in 1918, without any referenda and other things, announced the creation of an independent Kuban People’s Republic. The backbone of these "deputies" were the Black Sea, the descendants of the Zaporozhye Cossacks. Thanks to the active work of provocateurs from the territory of modern Ukraine, supported by Germany, the Black Sea people suddenly remembered their “roots” and became ardent Ukrainophiles.

But from the very first days, self-proclaimed politicians began to do everything to bury their own project. Firstly, a law on “nonresident” and “indigenous Cossacks” was introduced in the “republic”. The latter, by the way, was less than 50% of the total population. “Nonresident” lost their right to vote. Mass oppression began both on a class and on a national basis. Thus, Russian and mountainous non-Cossack peasants, workers and even officers became the subject of profit for the new masters of life. Secondly, the class hypocrisy of the Black Sea inhabitants rejected another layer of the Cossacks - the lineers. Thirdly, while the independents dreamily divided the property of others, in the Black Sea province with the capital in Novorossiysk, the Soviet regime established itself, which the independents hated.


Ukrainian agitation of the times of the Kuban People's Republic


As a result, in February 1918, when the red detachments, which included many lineers, began a campaign against Yekaterinodar, the Kuban Council threw a cry to the village and farm chieftains and Cossacks, who had recently torn their throats about the independence of the Kuban. In fact, it turned out that the new masters of life, surfaced in a wave of unrest, were only occupied with their financial affairs and the imposition of sole authority in their villages. And even more so nobody was in a hurry to defend the “capital”. As a result, the red detachments under the command of the Don Cossack Alexei Avtonomov entered Yekaterinodar almost without firing a shot. At that same time, the Cossack troops of the Rada fled north, capturing the entire treasury of a whole region.

The Kuban Rada returned exclusively on the bayonets of the Volunteer Army of General Denikin. A strange union of independents and Denikin stood exclusively on hatred of the Reds, since Anton Ivanovich himself despised his "allies" for bragging, rural thinking, greed and sloppiness. This "union" was a huge mistake Denikin. The Ukrainophil Cossacks refused to obey orders without the approval of the head of the Kuban Rada and made a mess in the ranks of the troops. In addition, the Kuban Council was in constant contact with their Ukrainian brothers in reason, cherished by Germany. Independents and connections with gangs of "green" did not shy. Political cleanliness was generally not in honor. And this, of course, happened behind Denikin's back.


Who is getting richer with the Dumka?


As a result, everything naturally ended in collapse. The parliament looted the regional treasury, devastated the rich grain-growing region, and the crown of all this was the Novorossiysk disaster. The legendary pilot Vladimir Kokkinaki later recalled these terrible years. Once on the street Volodya, still quite a boy, he witnessed how two armed lads, chatting on a crooked little gown, shot a passerby to pull off his boots.

Network Independents


It would seem that everything is finish. History itself has shown the incapacity of the Kuban independents, who, in the wake of Moldavian nationalists, independently desire this very independence to sell to another country. But not everything is so simple in the modern world. As far back as the end of the 90, as part of various programs in the Kuban, very specific historians, ethnographers and linguists were drawn from Ukraine. Fortunately there was no shortage of such “scientists” in Ukraine. Immediately after the collapse of the Union, institutions such as the National Academy of Public Administration under the President began to grow like mushrooms in Ukraine.

The feeding of these institutions by Ukrainian nationalism was stuffed to the eyeballs, and we can judge the level of professionalism by at least such a happy holder of an Academy diploma as Prime Minister Aleksey Goncharuk. And since before the 2014 year, Ukraine was partly positioned as a fraternal country through the efforts of the media and influence groups, the false theories about the Ukrainian roots of the Kuban were listened with suspicion, but favorably. Even propaganda ravings about the fact that the Kuban balachka is not just a South Russian dialect, but a branch of the Ukrainian language, which is the original language of the Kuban, took place.


Typical Pictures of Network Independents


Over time, wet dreams of a foreign land echoed on the Internet. The VKontakte group was born with a wild ultra-right bank and echoes of Nazism called the Kuban People’s Republic. At the same time, the posts in this group are exactly repeating the traditions of political unscrupulousness of the farm Council of the beginning of the 20 century. Here is the shaman Alexander, and some kind of liberation army, and the imposition of a “non-native” Russian language, and the call to overthrow the Dulles plan and begin the revival of the ... Russian nation. As a result, all this ideological vinaigrette is aimed only at inciting hatred and political chaos within Russia. At the same time, the overwhelming majority of the group’s members live, of course, in Ukraine, however, they water their opponents with Russian obscenities.

But this was only the first sign of network wrestlers. Now the full-fledged website of the “Kuban People's Republic” is functioning and regularly updated on the network, using the official colors of the flag and the symbols of the Krasnodar Territory. Behind the screen of the "republic", the falsification of the Ukrainian Kuban is being actively promoted. At the same time, the nationalistic character is emphasized by the extremely complementary form of submission of materials about skinheads and other far-right marginals. The resource was added to the point that in the article about the cannibalistic personality, Goncharenko “photographed” this fighter for this “fighter”. These provocateurs are actively working on other resources - from social networks to video hosting. Why the competent authorities have not yet paid attention to such attempts, giving the incitement of ethnic hatred and open calls for the dismemberment of the state, the author does not know.


Standard Content for Specific Independent Resources


It would seem that a couple of marginal resources and wet mrii of Ukrainian figures, whose country is spreading in parts. However, in the modern world of information bacchanalia, even this is a serious groundwork, which in the future will easily be able to put together about a dozen crooks whose activity in a nuclear reactor is aggravated by a fierce inferiority complex. And after acquiring the necessary uniforms, this bunch turns into "Cossacks" - it's time to go out to the square. One or two biting slogans, and here the reputation of the whole region is in question, not counting the attitude to the Cossacks. And if a hundred or two eco-activists can cause a transport collapse in London, then the consequences of such manifestations with a nationalist soul can be much more serious.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 22 October 2019 05: 47
    +18
    These provocateurs are actively working on other resources - from social networks to video hosting. Why the competent authorities have not yet paid attention to such attempts, giving the incitement of ethnic hatred and open calls for the dismemberment of the state, the author does not know.

    I myself am constantly confronted with this on various resources ... fighting with these provocateurs ... as a rule, when you start to crush them with facts, they switch to insults and curses smile ... war is war.
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 22 October 2019 07: 28
      +16
      I don’t watch Ernst’s First Channel because, in my opinion, this is an occupational slanderous Russophobic channel, aggressively destroying Russian culture and imposing Anglo-Saxon anticulture.
      Recently I saw black students on the Internet performing fervently Cossack songs. Useful to look for information about them. Found the transmission of the First channel. In it, Channel One claims that in the Kuban the little balachka is a local dialect Ukrainian !!! language. [i]
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 22 October 2019 08: 48
        +9
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        Useful to look for information about them. Found the transmission of the First channel. In it, Channel One claims that in the Kuban the little balachka is a local dialect of Ukrainian !!! language. [i]

        So what ? Is it really a matter of what dialect people speak ..? The dialect is absolutely not important .. It is important to understand the importance of Russia for people who love their country ... You can be a dense Uyghur Tokhtimahametov and love Russia. And you can be Karasev and shit your homeland ..!
      2. yuratanja1950
        yuratanja1950 22 October 2019 11: 29
        +12
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        in the Kuban balachka - a local dialect of Ukrainian !!! language.


        He himself was born in the Kuban ... And the surname ends with "ko" ... But of all the relatives in the southern chaise, only the great-grandfather and great-grandmother spoke on their father's side, but never heard from them or from the surrounding attempts to identify themselves as true Ukrainians. ..
        Bullshit is all this ... Bullshit, idle talk and redneck of loafers-freeloaders, and there is nothing to listen to and react to it ... Anyone who works, creates - regardless of profession - he has no time to engage in such politicking ...
        This applies not only to Ukraine, the Kuban, but also to Russia and some of its regions ... hi
        1. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 22 October 2019 23: 12
          +4
          And the surname ends with "ko" ... But of all the relatives in the southern balachka, only great-grandfather and great-grandmother on their father's side spoke
          I fully confirm your words. The generation that is messing around is almost completely gone. Only a couple of three expressions remained in the conversation: sho, bye, I miss you. And of course, the letter G. The truth is not so pronounced as those who, after the Maidan and the war, moved from Ukraine here.
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 23 October 2019 00: 04
            +4
            In the Oryol and Kursk region, this G is also, but no one ranks himself among the Ukrainians.)
            1. wind
              wind 23 October 2019 21: 47
              +1
              and Lipetsk)))) and Voronezh and Belgorod, all the black earth is buzzing an acre we can Tambovchan and Tulyakov
              1. Romka47
                Romka47 29 October 2019 15: 24
                0
                In Voronezh, both SHOKayut and Gekayut so that Ukrainians will be envious, but only if they say SHO to the local, Ukrainians. . .
                1. wind
                  wind 13 December 2019 18: 16
                  +1
                  and through the area of ​​tsukany clatter)))
      3. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 22 October 2019 23: 05
        +2
        In it, Channel One claims that in the Kuban the little balachka is a local dialect of Ukrainian !!! language.
        On which now, apart from some grandmas, no one is talking. Except for a couple of three phrases.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 22 October 2019 06: 38
    +10
    It was interesting to observe how the Kuban people received people from the east of Ukraine in 2014 ... they helped as much as they could ... and drove the provocateurs, loafers and drunkards with a filthy broom ..
  3. Avior
    Avior 22 October 2019 07: 00
    +8
    In the Kuban and generally in the Cossack regions, the opinion is quite widespread that the Cossacks are not Russian, and not Ukrainians by origin, but "the Cossacks originated from the Cossacks."
    He served with guys from the Kuban, heard from them more than once.
    They didn’t have so many Ukrainian words in their speech, but it was noticeable.
    However, they were sure that it was just their local dialect, and they did not even think about communication with the Ukrainian.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 22 October 2019 07: 41
      +9
      Tell me, what years did you serve? Actually, this opinion "Cossacks from Cossacks" was under the "Tsar-Father" .. In Soviet times, this was not remembered. Now, in connection with the "revival" of the Cossacks, and the influx of retired (dismissed) policemen into their ranks, this began to manifest .. I say, because I myself live next to them and I was offered to the Cossacks .. Although I am a peasant from the Smolensk region by my ancestors. ...
      1. Avior
        Avior 22 October 2019 08: 02
        +2
        In the Soviet served. Then I heard from them, we had a lot of guys from the Cossack regions. I remembered, it turns out, at least in families. It is clear that in none of the books there was anything like that then. And later I heard this.
      2. wind
        wind 13 December 2019 18: 19
        0
        the right position, if the peasant is even a nekher in the Cossack, we have to dress up, our past is no worse, and the whole infantry of the empire from us is better and more burdensome
    2. BAI
      BAI 22 October 2019 09: 05
      +6
      He was in the Krasnodar Territory in general, and in the Kuban in particular, more than once. Nowhere did he notice anything like the Ukrainian language. Neither in the villages, nor in the cities.
      1. Avior
        Avior 22 October 2019 09: 09
        +3
        Labinsky we had, for example.
        We were sure that tsybulia is just a local dialect ....
        Yes, I didn’t write that they speak Ukrainian. Single words.
        And, frankly, then it somehow somehow did not bother anyone.
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 22 October 2019 10: 09
        +4
        Quote: BAI
        He was in the Krasnodar Territory in general, and in the Kuban in particular, more than once. Nowhere did he notice anything like the Ukrainian language. Neither in the villages, nor in the cities.

        ===
        originally from the Kuban, Ukrainian and a mixture of Russian-Ukrainian and Russian are all there. as there are villages, so there are farms (see map of Krasnodar and Stavropol territories). and Cossacks are a melting pot of many nationalities with their own way of life. and the fact that the ukronationalists want to exploit this topic is not surprising.
      3. 210ox
        210ox 22 October 2019 11: 16
        0
        Quite often .. When I moved here I got used to a little balochka.
      4. vindigo
        vindigo 22 October 2019 11: 23
        +5
        Yes. Balachka is dying. I have not heard her for a long time. Himself as a child balak, in the city retrained in Russian. Now I remember a few words. And then because the parents reminded.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 22 October 2019 12: 11
          +2
          Quote: vindigo
          Yes. Balachka is dying. I have not heard her for a long time. Himself as a child balak, in the city retrained in Russian. Now I remember a few words. And then because the parents reminded.

          ===
          It's right! great-grandfathers and grandfathers used it, fathers knew, we understand her, children do not know. but the songs live.
    3. Alex_59
      Alex_59 22 October 2019 10: 02
      +11
      Quote: Avior
      They didn’t have so many Ukrainian words in their speech, but it was noticeable.

      If we assume that Ukrainians are a separate nationality, and the Ukrainian language is a separate language, then it may seem that Ukrainian words slip through the speech of the Kuban people. But if we assume that the Ukrainians are southern Russians with a southern Russian dialect, then everything falls into place. Because the "softening" of the dialect and the distortion of words in the Ukrainian manner does not appear discretely on a certain geographical border of the Cossacks (or Ukrainians) residence, but gradually, as we move south. And to me, a person from the Urals, it is very noticeable when you travel across the country from north to southwest. First, they begin to pull the letter A - this is the Volga region and Maaaskwa. Therefore, a distortion of the letter G is added - this is Volgograd and further south. Then separate words similar to Ukrainian ones appear, like the expressions "Ta nema for sho!" - this is already widespread on the border with Ukraine and in the Donbass and in Odessa itself, although people there consider themselves Russian, wear Russian surnames ending in -s and write and speak in Russian. This dialect is also called "surzhik" - a mixture of Ukrainian Russian and Jargon. And finally, to the west of Donbass, speakers of the language are beginning to come across, in which purely Russian words come across sporadically. (The exception is Sevastopol, where the language is more "northern", is cleared of g-ekanya to a greater extent, which is apparently due to the large number of military personnel from other regions who constantly arrive there and remain to live after retirement, together with their families and wives). Thus, as we move to the southwest, we see a certain linguistic gradient, smoothly turning into what the Svidomye consider their own. There is no sharp division at the border - here in Russian, and there in Ukrainian. How will it be if we cross the border, for example, with Finland. From this I conclude that there is no clearly-expressed Ukrainian language. There is a gradual change in the dialect of Russian, which only in the most western regions of Ukraine acquires the features of Mova, but even then, with some experience, it remains understandable to a Russian from Siberia without any translator. On what basis, in this case, is this dialect separated into a separate language? Indeed, in Siberia, Russians have their own accent and dialect, they have unique words, but on this basis no one distinguishes from Russian a certain "Siberian" or "Uralic" language. In the Urals, they speak very quickly, sharply, the letter A is pronounced as O, there are words that no one will understand to the west, like "posikunchik" or "swarf". But we are Russians!
      1. Avior
        Avior 22 October 2019 10: 23
        0
        Because the "softening" of the dialect and the distortion of words in the Ukrainian manner

        Well, how do you need to distort the onion in the Ukrainian manner, so that it turns out to be a pulp? smile

        already on the border with Ukraine and in the Donbass and in Odessa itself

        and finally, west of the Donbass, native speakers begin to meet

        Do you think Odessa is east of the Donbass?
        I'm afraid your theory is very simplified and poorly aligned with reality.
        If you go along the Azov-Black Sea coast, then first you will meet Russian speakers in Donetsk and Zaporizhzhya region - again, certain regions, or even villages there will speak Ukrainian or Surzhik, then you will find yourself in Kherson region - there will be a strong predominance Ukrainian, then Nikolaev and Odessa, there again a lot of Russian.
        It’s just that the southern parts of Russia and Ukraine were not populated by a gradual displacement of the population, but by the order of serfs, bought in different places, Old Believers, Cossacks, to whom lands were cut in certain places.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 22 October 2019 10: 53
          +3
          [quote = Avior]Simply the southern parts of Russia and Ukraine were not populated by a gradual displacement of the population, but by the order of serfs, bought in different places, Old Believers, Cossacks, who cut the lands in certain places. [/ quote]
          ===
          For me, the Soviet pre-Ukrainianization of Kaganovich and Co. played a significant role in promoting the Ukrainian language in certain regions of Ukraine.
          1. Avior
            Avior 22 October 2019 16: 13
            0
            It is difficult to say how much, but in those places there is still, for example, a village in which they speak Russian and neighboring, a couple of kilometers away, in Ukrainian.
            As the landowners of that time imported into the land received, they say so
        2. Alex_59
          Alex_59 22 October 2019 11: 01
          +4
          Quote: Avior
          Well, how do you need to distort the onion in the Ukrainian manner, so that it turns out to be a pulp?
          Well, and the word pie, how can you distort it in the Ural manner, what happened "posikunchik"?
          Quote: Avior
          I'm afraid your theory is very simplified and poorly aligned with reality.

          My theory is based on personal practical experience traveling around the Kuban and southern Ukraine. What I watched was based on the conclusions and built. I traveled a lot of places both there and there - everything was behind the wheel of my car, so I talked a lot with ordinary people. This by itself does not mean the exceptional fidelity of my hypothesis, but I think I caught certain points quite accurately. I do not pretend to absolute truth.
          1. Avior
            Avior 22 October 2019 16: 17
            -1
            And take the explanatory dictionary of the Zhivago of the Great Russian language of Dahl, and you will not read that.
            I think that speaking languages ​​makes no sense to compare, there is intermingling.
            And the literary Russian and Ukrainian are different languages, although related
            1. anykin
              anykin 22 October 2019 17: 42
              +4
              Quote: Avior
              And the literary Russian and Ukrainian are different languages, although related

              Naturally, after all, Ukrainian was created to be non-Russian and supplant Russian.
              1. Avior
                Avior 22 October 2019 17: 45
                0
                Who created something?
                In the 18th century, Enotid Kotlyarevsky wrote in colloquial Ukrainian.
                This is the current literary Ukrainian with minimal differences.
                1. Victorio
                  Victorio 23 October 2019 18: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Avior
                  In the 18th century, Enotid Kotlyarevsky wrote in colloquial Ukrainian.

                  ===
                  if judged by publication
                  then Little Russian language
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 23 October 2019 20: 47
                    +1
                    Modern Ukrainian with minimal changes.
                    The question arises: who composed it and made Poltava peasants speak it?
                    As for Little Russia, then there was such a terminology.

                    200 years have passed, the terminology has changed
        3. L-39NG
          L-39NG 22 October 2019 15: 10
          0
          I will get involved in a polemic in the Slavonic languages ​​of the LUK - either Cesnak cibuýový, or Cebula zwyczajna, or Cirulent rapacata, or Cibule kuchyňská, etc. Onion - this is not a Slovenian distortion. I don’t know, even in Mongolian it is SONGINO, so who and what has distorted is on your conscience.
      2. anykin
        anykin 22 October 2019 11: 37
        -3
        Quote: Alex_59
        "softening" of the dialect and distortion of words

        Quote: Alex_59
        First, they begin to pull the letter A - this is the Volga and Maaaskva. Therefore, the distortion of the letter G is added - this is Volgograd and to the south.

        You’re our reference, you’ll write down the whole of Russia into distorted ones)
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 22 October 2019 11: 45
          +7
          Quote: anykin
          You’re our reference, you’ll write down the whole of Russia into distorted ones)

          You just misunderstood everything. The essence of my words is precisely that there are no reference Russians and no Ukrainians. We are all different, but we are all part of the same people. The O-kayaking Uralians are no better than the K-kayaking Muscovites, or the ge-kaying Kubans. Within this people, I see no compelling reason to single out a part of this people called "Ukrainians" as a separate entity. In my understanding, in order to consider a group of people as an independent people, it is not enough that they pronounce the word "bow" as "tsybulia". And nowhere in the huge Russian people were groups of people separated into a separate people on such a basis. Only the Ukrainians showed off, the rest have enough self-awareness to identify themselves with Russians and speak their own dialect - no problem.
    4. Glory1974
      Glory1974 22 October 2019 14: 06
      +2
      In the Kuban and generally in the Cossack regions, the opinion is quite widespread that the Cossacks are not Russian, and not Ukrainians by origin, but "the Cossacks originated from the Cossacks."

      In the 90s he served in the North Caucasus, the bulk of the conscripts were from the Krasnodasr region. Many of them had "Cossack" in their nationality column on their military ID.
      In 2000 these were no longer met, but probably somewhere they still think so, unofficially.
  4. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 22 October 2019 07: 34
    +7
    My grandmother is a Kuban Cossack, as far as I remember there was nothing Ukrainian in her, she always considered herself Russian, like us. And her surname was maiden name Belogortseva, not so Ukrainian.
    1. Senior seaman
      Senior seaman 22 October 2019 09: 02
      +12
      There are linear villages, and there are Black Sea villages (formerly essno). I live in linear, everyone here, including the elderly, speaks Russian. But, say, in Kanevskaya, where my relatives live, "balachka" is not uncommon. Although mostly in elderly people. But what would they consider themselves Ukrainians ...
  5. HAM
    HAM 22 October 2019 07: 47
    +13
    I have been living in the Kuban for almost 60 years. In my village they speak only PURE Russian, no "balachek", in neighboring cities also only Russian. Maybe where they speak not quite Russian so it is in Ukraine ... separate words, but it is everywhere so-local adverbs ...
    You freeloaders, they wanted to join KUBAN .. you sew ...
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 22 October 2019 07: 48
    -5
    Everyone goes crazy in his own way.
    Igor Raufovich Ashurbeyli In 2001—2011 - General Director of the NGO Almaz-Antey GSKB. Doctor of Technical Sciences. October 12, 2016 established the cosmic state of Asgardia, whose the king he is now.

    And here, just some kind of moron Kuban decided to Ukrainize. fool
  7. Ham
    Ham 22 October 2019 07: 50
    +4
    Internet - masturbation ... they Donetsk and Luhansk cannot "return", but already rolled out their lip to the Kuban ...
    the stronger everything falls into pieces the more global the Napoleonic plans;)
  8. Zhenya Khazarsky
    Zhenya Khazarsky 22 October 2019 08: 52
    +5
    Thu! Yes, they come! Good people in the south are always welcome. And, all kinds of crooks, to carve with a whip so that they could neither sit down nor lie down!
  9. AleBors
    AleBors 22 October 2019 10: 11
    +3
    I have been to the Kuban many times. A very healthy Russian nationalism is present. It used to happen that some individuals met, who insisted that the Cossacks were, they say, a separate nation. But after 2014, this is no longer heard. No "balachka". Normal South Russian dialect.
    But why our intelligence agencies do not pay attention to these Internet resources is not clear. Or maybe I'm wrong, pay?
  10. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 October 2019 10: 23
    +6
    Secondly, this character during a tragedy in the House of Trade Unions with cannibalistic enthusiasm shot corpses of people who were burned alive on a smartphone. After this "hero" stated that he "cleared the Kulikovo field from the separatist camp."
    It would be time for the Russian prosecutor's office to institute criminal proceedings against this fascist.
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 22 October 2019 10: 41
      +3
      It’s a pity that the ice axes seem to be dull, but why would so much scum have divorced ... or maybe someone needs it ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 October 2019 11: 53
        +1
        Quote: kartalovkolya
        Too bad the ice axes seem dull

        It's time to resume use.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 October 2019 10: 47
    +4
    With Goncharenko everything is clear - the scoundrel is all to face, whether it be a party or a provocation. And here
    Joseph Reichelgauz
    and others like him are our headache. Repeatedly before, he appeared on political talk shows where he expressed his hostile position to the country, defended the "broad" Ukrainians who suffered from Soviet oppression, cursed Soviet achievements, tried to philosophize with a smart face, etc. And how many people like him today have the opportunity to promote their ideas on Russian TV. Here and Gozman, and Chubais Sr., and Nikulin, and Nekrasov, and Amnuel ...
  12. xomaNN
    xomaNN 22 October 2019 10: 51
    0
    Not enough psychiatrists in the post-Soviet space. So many loonies loose and spoil the air with their verbal miasms wassat
  13. iouris
    iouris 22 October 2019 12: 27
    +2
    Not the Ukrainianization of the Kuban, but the Westernization of the USSR (the former). She goes.
  14. Old26
    Old26 22 October 2019 13: 59
    +1
    Quote: BAI
    He was in the Krasnodar Territory in general, and in the Kuban in particular, more than once. Nowhere did he notice anything like the Ukrainian language. Neither in the villages, nor in the cities.

    Well, you are not quite right. Probably just did not meet with native speakers. I live in the Stavropol Territory. We Ukrainians have about 1,5% of the population. In places of compact residence you can hear the Ukrainian language. There are Ukrainian communities. But I never met with these groups as a part of the people of Ukraine.
  15. NF68
    NF68 22 October 2019 16: 17
    0
    And in sunny Magadan, these tricks are not afraid to get?
  16. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 22 October 2019 20: 56
    +1
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    I don’t watch Ernst’s First Channel because, in my opinion, this is an occupational slanderous Russophobic channel, aggressively destroying Russian culture and imposing Anglo-Saxon anticulture.
    Recently I saw black students on the Internet performing fervently Cossack songs. Useful to look for information about them. Found the transmission of the First channel. In it, Channel One claims that in the Kuban the little balachka is a local dialect Ukrainian !!! language. [i]

    Oh, if only the first one.
    We are zombified with taxpayer money, they pour Russophobia venom into fragile brains.

    Here is what Chubais Sr. openly says live:
  17. boni592807
    boni592807 25 October 2019 23: 35
    0
    Colleagues. A lot of talk on the topic. Tell me:
    1. What does "Ukraine" mean? When the state with this name appeared.
    2. What was the name of the territory and what state did it belong to, where did the Cossacks come to Taman from?
    3. What state belonged to the territory where the Cossacks landed on the land of Taman granted to them by Empress Catherine II?
    4. Citizens of which state THEY were at that time and their descendants now?
    The person who answers will answer MYSELF to all questions.
    And launch the problem before the crisis, easily. An example is the USSR (Gorbi) and Ukraine. hi
  18. Basarev
    Basarev 27 October 2019 00: 03
    -1
    All this Cossack banditry would have remained a shtetl crime if it weren’t for Lenin’s national policy — Lenin and Kaganovich actually fulfilled all their dreams — they gave land, planted surzhik, persecuted Russians that they were against a split ... These Kremlin actions inspired extreme enthusiasm among the environment these Ukrainian bandits - after all, the imperious arts essentially legalized them, recognized all their achievements and were the most vivid confirmation of the support of their views, fiercely anti-Russian.
  19. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 10 November 2019 15: 35
    +2
    Bullshit .. What is the arrival of the Cossacks? They drove them here with kicks .. Yes, the prince Potemkin regretted that he did not hang Golovaty for the rest of his life .. And the Kuban’s revival began after the abolition of serfdom .. The land was sea and it was not treated by the descendants of the zaporschivs ... They were distributed to all comers. . Then these immigrants began to be massively recorded in the Cossacks .. That's something like this