Polish expert called the "reason" for which the US will not abandon Poland in the Kurdish scenario

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Poland was wary of reports by Russian journalists from former US bases in northern Syria. We are talking about military bases, which, in frank haste, were left by the US military, who received orders to move to Iraq.





In one of the reports of Russian journalists from a former US military base in the north of the SAR, documents thrown by the Americans were shown. Among other things, we are talking about documents that describe in detail the methodology for conducting intelligence activities on the ground. Among the abandoned items are even personal tokens of American servicemen.

In Poland, they said that the rapidly changing vector of US foreign policy could lead to the fact that one day Washington would decide that it was not interested in, for example, missile defense facilities in Polish Redzikovo, and would "drop documentation on the radar."

Polish expert Arthur Jagnica, doctor of military sciences, commenting on the actions of the American contingent, claims that the Americans will not do this with respect to the “Polish allies”. According to him, it is necessary to distinguish the US position in northern Syria from the US position in Eastern Europe.

Military expert Arthur Yagnitsa:

It is wrong to view the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy. The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland (the facility in Redzikovo) and economic interests (LNG contracts).

Recall that the object in Polish Redzikovo refers to an element of the American missile defense system, which was originally designated as "a means of protecting Europe from Iran."

However, the same Yagnitsa notes that "we can state the surrender of US interests to Russia in northern Syria in favor of Russia."

In other words, Polish experts hope that the Americans will not throw them the way they did with the Kurds.
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  1. +27
    21 October 2019 11: 00
    Blind experts! The hopes of young men feed ...
    1. +12
      21 October 2019 11: 06
      Quote: News on VO
      "a means of protecting Europe from Iran"

      The same conscious lie ...
      1. +16
        21 October 2019 11: 16
        The Czechs will confirm the "reliability" of the Saxons as allies, and Poland as a neighbor.
        1. +9
          21 October 2019 11: 34
          Yes, the Poles themselves constantly whine that their "allies" were thrown in September 39th ...
          1. +5
            21 October 2019 12: 29
            In Poland, they were wary ...
            bustle the psheki - they are afraid of becoming an unloved wife)) it is hard to be in the service of the owner who does not care about you, they will remember with sadness the Soviet "occupation"
            1. +4
              21 October 2019 12: 40
              Quote: mavrus
              Yes, the Poles themselves constantly whine that their "allies" were thrown in September 39th ...

              So the Poles at first with Hitler wanted to fight against the Russians. And then they crossed over to the English, throwing the Germans in a jump.
              Go figure out who is their "ally" ...
              So that no one threw the Poles. They were simply flushed into the toilet, since they are not in fact an independent state.
              1. +5
                21 October 2019 12: 47
                Quote: dik-nsk
                will remember with sadness the Soviet "occupation"

                The Poles squeezed money uphill from the EU. They built roads and other infrastructure.
                They live and do not blow in the mustache.
                They know that Russia is not a threat to them.
                And they don’t care about the Americans. For LNG will be paid in EU money.

                That is, if subsidies from the EU end then whine.
                1. +2
                  21 October 2019 12: 57
                  Wrong consider the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy.

                  It is rightly said that the hopes of young men are nourished!
                  Poland is still not growing up! The results of the Anglo-Saxon alliance in WWII Poland were few!
                2. +3
                  21 October 2019 13: 00
                  The American LNG Poles dragged to themselves so that subsidies from the EU would not end. Americans through Poland will pump out loot from the EU.
                  For the same purpose, the Poles want to see the American base at home.
                  For the Poles, the EU market is important.
                  Poles will be able to pay mattresses only with the EU open market for Polish goods.
                  So, for the Poles, pressure on the EU is more important.

                  But Poles need Russia so, for political fuss - a threat from the east, blah blah blah ...
                3. 0
                  21 October 2019 23: 27
                  Quote: mavrus
                  Yes, the Poles themselves constantly whine that their "allies" were thrown in September 39th ...

                  The Angles in general and the United States in particular are constantly betraying their allies and partners.
                  As soon as it becomes more profitable to betray than to be friends, this happens immediately.
                  I wonder how many times it is necessary to betray specifically to Poland, so that she would understand this?
          2. +1
            21 October 2019 14: 09
            Quote: mavrus
            Yes, the Poles themselves constantly whine that their "allies" were thrown in September 39th.

            If once "thrown", then the second time will be "thrown". Where is this America, and where is Poland. And what is the use of this Poland, no gas, no oil, no money. America will not abandon Saudi Arabia.
          3. 0
            21 October 2019 16: 13
            Threw, throw and will throw. After the next kidnap, Poland will not maintain statehood.
          4. 0
            21 October 2019 18: 04
            The sooner the psheki realize that the mattress makers have never spared their "sixes" in order to achieve their goals, the better it will be for Poland.
    2. +13
      21 October 2019 11: 13
      "What could be worse and more dangerous than being the enemy of the Anglo-Saxons? Only one thing - to be their ally!" A.E. Edrikhin-Vandam
      1. +2
        21 October 2019 12: 13
        Polish expert named the "reason" why the US will not leave Poland

        According to established tradition, women with low social responsibility are not abandoned ... They are simply handed over when they get bored.
        1. 0
          21 October 2019 16: 14
          This is a moaning and not a cause.
    3. Maz
      0
      21 October 2019 12: 13
      You don't care, sho me not worth it
    4. +2
      21 October 2019 12: 23
      In 39, such experts thought the same thing.
  2. +9
    21 October 2019 11: 04
    Polish experts hope that the Americans will not throw them the way they did with the Kurds.

    if only with the Kurds, the scammers are still the same, that’s what the United States pros are! so blessed is he who believes ....
    1. +10
      21 October 2019 11: 12
      Quote: Mouse
      scammers are still those

      They even threw the British more than once on a large scale. Formally, the closest allies.

      However, the Poles are not used to laughing
    2. +2
      21 October 2019 14: 13
      Quote: Mouse
      if only with the Kurds, scammers are still those

      Well, they do not hide the fact that "America has neither friends nor allies, but only interests." There was an excuse for the Kurds "they did not help us in Normandy" and the Poles would come up with "they did not help us in the war between the North and the South."
  3. +3
    21 October 2019 11: 07
    It is wrong to view the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy. The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland (the facility in Redzikovo) and economic interests (LNG contracts).

    Here nothing teaches them .... laughing
  4. +5
    21 October 2019 11: 07
    Polish expert called the "reason" for which the US will not abandon Poland in the Kurdish scenario
    But he thinks in the right direction, comrade. But the conclusions are erroneous.
    The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland
    The United States does not have real economic interests in Poland, and this is what is decisive for the United States. They are throwing Kurds with cheap oil, and here the Psheks are always hungry.
  5. +5
    21 October 2019 11: 07
    in the 39th, England also promised them that it would protect against Germany, they gladly jumped yelling that the Poles would be in Berlin soon, and before that they had almost agreed that the Soviet troops could pass through Polish territory, but the British made sure in time that there wasn’t such an agreement how it ended in the end for Poland we all know
    1. 0
      21 October 2019 18: 01
      Quote: fruit_cake
      at the same time, before that, they had almost agreed that Soviet troops could pass through Polish territory, but the British made a fuss in time so that there was no such agreement

      come on! and Pilsudski then so straight to the USSR laughing
      Regarding the passage of Soviet troops to help the Czechs, Poland immediately said no because the interests themselves had the land to grab. on this incidentally ended all peace agreements with the Poles.
      1. 0
        21 October 2019 18: 12
        Pilsudski died before, Hitler was at his funeral
        1. 0
          22 October 2019 14: 15
          Quote: fruit_cake
          Pilsudski died before that

          when before? specify the year at least wink Pilsudski’s supporters died with him?
          Quote: fruit_cake
          hitler was at his funeral

          in in. Hitler, not Stalin. to remind that both Pilsudski and Hitler are fierce anti-communists?
          1. 0
            22 October 2019 14: 32
            Hitler and Stalin signed a non-aggression pact, if this does not bother you
            1. 0
              22 October 2019 15: 21
              Quote: fruit_cake
              Hitler and Stalin signed a non-aggression pact, if this does not bother you

              I'm not there. you do not mind that the USSR is the last country in Europe to conclude a non-aggression pact with Hitler wink I recall that the same Poland entered into a military alliance like many other countries. Do you need to explain the difference between a non-aggression pact and a military alliance?
  6. +1
    21 October 2019 11: 08
    will be thrown if it will be beneficial to the US :)
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    1. 0
      21 October 2019 13: 14
      Quote: self-propelled
      "...Polish expert named the "reason" why the United States will not leave Poland in the Kurdish scenario..."
      Of course they won’t leave !!! you will be the first and exceptional, whom YUS will not leave ... wassat the main thing is to speak and believe wassat

      it will be necessary to still bother with elbows, at least with banderlogs and Georgians (we remember 2008, a jammed tie and panic attacks of Mishiko on the street, but they already forgot) for the first place among those whom the USA will not leave ... if something happens, there are still Bulgarians , who were recently cynically thrown with a gas pipe, and there are still Romanians present, who are in full train ... And how to forget about the 3 Baltic tigers? :))
      and everyone thinks that this is something they’ll go through, this is all experts and other ... shellon ...
      winked
    2. +1
      21 October 2019 14: 36
      Quote: self-propelled
      the main thing is to speak and believe

      It’s good when people have faith.
  8. +1
    21 October 2019 11: 10
    Heh, if you repeat the protective mantra 3 times a day: The owner will not give up ... That will certainly bring blessing and calm, continue the panes ... good
    1. +1
      21 October 2019 11: 21
      The Poles may be right that they won’t be so easily thrown, they can be thrown forward, as Napoleon did, though Russia didn’t have tanks then, now the situation may be more pitiable.
  9. +2
    21 October 2019 11: 12
    Polish expert called the "reason" for which the US will not abandon Poland in the Kurdish scenario
    And I completely agree with this, the United States will abandon Poland according to the "Polish scenario", they will do it much more gracefully with exquisite chic inherent only to them and quickly so that they won't even have time to sweat. Then they will say that they really need to defend the borders, maybe the US-Mexican one, maybe some other one, but they need it.
    1. +1
      21 October 2019 13: 20
      Comrade D. Trump, in justification of refusing to support the Kurds with his inherent insight, noted that the Kurds did not participate in the Norman operation, therefore they should not be supported. In the case of Poles, he can justify leaving Poland, for example, by the fact that he was tired of complaints from American soldiers that they did not like the service in Polish bars and the Polish bigos, and that Polish ladies were offering too high a fee for sexual services .
      1. 0
        21 October 2019 14: 42
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        In the case of Poles, he can justify leaving Poland, for example, by the fact that he was tired of complaints from American soldiers that they did not like the service in Polish bars and the Polish bigos, and that Polish ladies were offering too high a fee for sexual services .

        This is quite in the spirit of Trump, he, as I began to notice lately, has his tongue and mouth completely independent and sovereign from the brain, hammering all kinds of nonsense sometimes indecent on their own, probably got infected from the Polish establishment, but this does not end in good. The Polish elite, in their zeal to bother and serve the United States, forgot that such very tight ties sometimes end in syphilis, sometimes in AIDS, there are no children from such ties.
        1. +1
          21 October 2019 16: 17
          And always a brothel.
      2. 0
        21 October 2019 16: 16
        Denis Tramplinov will tell the Poles that they did not support them in the war with England for independence, as they taught in the Kremlin, among other things.
  10. +6
    21 October 2019 11: 12
    The French were thrown into Syria, and God himself ordered you.
    1. 0
      21 October 2019 12: 45
      By the way, what ended the story with the French special forces? They pulled them out or dug them?
      1. 0
        22 October 2019 08: 39
        The question is more about supply and logistics, and not about maintaining a database.
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    1. 0
      21 October 2019 11: 20
      Well, there is more hope for American infusions. Something is not really believed that the Poles, like this, will spend a couple of billion dollars on American bases for free, without any profit. Very well, I know this fraternity. They understand perfectly well that Russia is not going to attack anyone, but ... Oh, very pennies are needed.
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  12. +6
    21 October 2019 11: 15
    Americans are free guys. They can sailor, or they can quit .. And they’re not afraid that the Americans will leave and supposedly Poland will be defenseless, the real Polish elites are afraid that if the Americans leave them, Poland will inexorably slide into the category of second-rate European countries and will lose the current status that she is given for the full realization of American interests in the region, and not just the holding, but with a twinkle and imagination ..
  13. +4
    21 October 2019 11: 19
    Polish experts hope that the Americans still will not throw them as they did with the Kurds
    Interestingly, this "expert" is aware that in politics, as well as in business, whoever throws a partner first gets the most dividends. "Not anything personally, it's just business" - this thesis of Al-Capone needs to be written into the US Constitution, together with Scarlett's thesis from the movie "Gone with the Wind" "... I will deceive, I will steal, I will kill, but I will never starve!"
    Interestingly, Americans or Poles are now generally able to understand such works as poems by D. Dzhabaev. "Leningraders, my children."
  14. Hog
    +1
    21 October 2019 11: 19
    As the saying goes: "Hope dies last."
    1. +3
      21 October 2019 12: 09
      Vera said and shot Love ...
  15. +3
    21 October 2019 11: 20
    It is wrong to view the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy.

    Once I talked about it, it means you yourself doubt and fear.

    The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland (the facility in Redzikovo) and economic interests (LNG contracts).

    Right here. And you rejoice in vain. Now your Redzikovo is Russia's prime target. And LNG will be much more expensive for you than from the SP-2 pipe.
    Anglo-Saxons breed "proud lords" like suckers, and the time will come - they will throw as usual.
  16. 0
    21 October 2019 11: 20
    well, well ... blessed is he who believes ...
  17. -8
    21 October 2019 11: 21
    The Americans are now releasing all their forces from Syria to keep Iraq under their control, while in Syria they actually pushed Turkey and us with their foreheads, sharply declaring their departure, and actually provoked a conflict between Syria and Turkey, as Rojava remained as a tidbit ( oil) ownerless. Divide and conquer in action.
  18. +2
    21 October 2019 11: 22
    Naive, Uncle Sam doesn't care who and how to "throw"!
  19. +8
    21 October 2019 11: 26
    "Polish expert Artur Yagnitsa, Doctor of Military Sciences, commenting on the actions of the American contingent, states that the Americans will not do this with respect to the" Polish allies. "
    - I would advise this "expert" to dig deeper into the archives and find an explanation .. why the British and French threw Poland to the mercy of Hitler, his Poland.)
  20. +3
    21 October 2019 11: 26
    Stage One - Denial
  21. +1
    21 October 2019 11: 27
    The reason is good - the Poles have tastier apples and the heels are pretty good lol
  22. +2
    21 October 2019 11: 41
    Tremble, stinkers.
  23. +1
    21 October 2019 11: 44
    Paraphrasing. Hope for the American, but don’t be bad. I mean, in case of a serious threat, having lost interest, not seeing any benefits, etc., the Americans will certainly abandon not only Poland. But where will this Poland go after that if it has presented so many nasty things to Russia?
    1. +1
      21 October 2019 12: 07
      But where will this Poland go after that if it has presented so many nasty things to Russia?
      Options are France, Germany.
  24. +6
    21 October 2019 11: 57
    Poland last centuries, was in Europe as a bargaining chip. Its how they wanted me, and what they wanted. this happens with schemers.
  25. +3
    21 October 2019 11: 58
    Of course not according to the Kurdish scenario. You sho ..?! there is polish for you .. script wink
  26. +5
    21 October 2019 12: 03
    The Polish expert did not name the main reason why this would happen .. The US threw and throws everyone for the sake of its interests, and Poland will be "thrown" out of habit. for its not the first time.
    1. +4
      21 October 2019 12: 10
      Poland’s former ambassador to the United States, Richard Schneppf, expressed the view that Poland could become part of the bargaining between the US and Russia. Poland will be between two fires. Poland is a small change between West and East.
  27. 0
    21 October 2019 12: 06
    They threw some, they will throw others.
  28. +1
    21 October 2019 12: 10
    The Poles have just publicly announced that the United States did not have real military interests in Syria ...
  29. 0
    21 October 2019 12: 18
    According to him, it is necessary to distinguish the US position in northern Syria from the US position in Eastern Europe.
    The fact of the matter is that the US position can change dramatically at any time if the USA finally understands that Russia cannot be intimidated by military, political or economic pressure, let alone win an open heated conflict and that it needs to be reckoned with and adjusted full contacts, so pshek, your fate is not enviable in our difficult time.
  30. 0
    21 October 2019 12: 19
    Is he reassuring himself or is he hanging simple noodles on the ears of simple Poles? But they fussed. winked
  31. +1
    21 October 2019 12: 24
    I wonder if the striped ones know that they can't leave the Polish "collectivities" if something goes wrong ah?
  32. 0
    21 October 2019 12: 37
    In order for the states to repeat the Kurdish scenario, the first thing that is needed is the real situation - what is happening there - the war. "Expert" is his mother.
  33. +1
    21 October 2019 12: 45
    Polish expert Arthur Jagnica - richer in thought!
  34. +1
    21 October 2019 12: 57
    “It is not right to view the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy. The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland (the facility in Redzikovo) and economic interests (LNG contracts).


    Oh guys, don’t calm yourself down, but they’ll throw you anyway ...
  35. 0
    21 October 2019 13: 16
    It’s time for the Poles to go through the stage of the nursery-subgroup and pull the strap as one of the 14 European empires,
  36. 0
    21 October 2019 13: 24
    1 Russia 145 million hours
    2 germany 82,8
    3 Türkiye 79,8
    4 france 67,2
    5 Italy 60,4
    6 Austria-Hungary 57,6
    7 spain + portuguese 56,9
    8 ukraine 41
    9 Greek-Slavic imp 39,8
    10 Poland 37,9
    11 Benelux 37,6
    12 Kavkazakhstan 34,1
    13th c. Sweden 26,5
    14 Belarus Baltic(ON) 16
    Europe 782,6 million people
    The approximate composition of a strong Europe from Brest to Vladivostok in my opinion.
  37. +1
    21 October 2019 13: 33
    Already rzhachno even the fact that such thoughts clean their empty heads;). Allies
  38. +2
    21 October 2019 13: 34
    Hehe ... Britain once did not abandon Poland either. Threw the truth ...
  39. +2
    21 October 2019 13: 35
    What about us?

    Psheks were thrown by the Angles in the Second World War. guaranteed protection and "fought" since 1939, "defending" the ally, allowing the Germans to wind up their guts a month without doing anything in return. This was at a time when there were not many countries in the anti-Hitler alliance, and not many conflicting interests worked. Now NATO has 29 countries. And everyone is hiding behind each other.
    Little we treated pshek from arrogance. And stupidity, false feelings of need for others.
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  41. 0
    21 October 2019 13: 51
    Holy naivety. The whole history of mankind is built on betrayals. Therefore, they will not betray in Syriac, they will betray in Polish.
  42. 0
    21 October 2019 14: 26
    "It is wrong to view the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy. The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland (the facility in Redzikowo) and economic interests (LNG contracts)."
    This is an expert! If only I could find some "stationary reasons", not mobile missile defense containers and gas carriers. In general, the Anglo-Saxons always behave like gentlemen: the gentleman gave his word - the gentleman took his word ...
  43. -1
    21 October 2019 14: 27
    If nothing hurts, then no one says anything. And the Poles, like the Baltic states, have only sores ...
  44. 0
    21 October 2019 14: 33
    It seems like complacency.
  45. 0
    21 October 2019 15: 04
    Kidalovo is a US state policy, so Poles are hoping for the best in vain. They will be thrown just like the Kurds.
  46. 0
    21 October 2019 15: 20
    The USA has no allies, there are only interests. And who has nothing to think about, let them continue to hope for Uncle Sam’s decency wassat
  47. 0
    21 October 2019 15: 47
    What do the Poles say.
    It is wrong to view the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy. The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland (the facility in Redzikovo) and economic interests (LNG contracts).

    What am I hearing:
    It's too terrible to be true
  48. 0
    21 October 2019 15: 51
    Stupid Pigs, if striped, will sell you for a penny on a market day. fool
  49. 0
    21 October 2019 16: 09
    Bed rental is not decreasing, stockings are getting more expensive, years go by. Of the regular customers, only one remained, and he is already a little old and can not, as in the past.
    The lady got worried ...
  50. 0
    21 October 2019 16: 11
    Poland was wary of reports by Russian journalists from former US bases in northern Syria. We are talking about military bases, which, in frank haste, were left by the US military, who received orders to move to Iraq.

    Polish expert Arthur Jagnica, doctor of military sciences, commenting on the actions of the American contingent, claims that the Americans will not do this with respect to the “Polish allies”. According to him, it is necessary to distinguish the US position in northern Syria from the US position in Eastern Europe.

    Military expert Arthur Yagnitsa:
    “It is not right to view the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy. The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland (the facility in Redzikovo) and economic interests (LNG contracts).

    Blessed is he who believes!
    As long as the US has interests in Poland ... until then ... and when the problems outweigh the "interests" everything will be like with the Kurds in Syria laughing
  51. 0
    21 October 2019 17: 20
    The Anglo-Saxons have abandoned them more than once, but they still believe. Apparently congenital is not curable.
  52. 0
    21 October 2019 17: 44
    Oh well. Poland has never learned anything in its history. Let them remember how France and Britain “didn’t abandon them” in ’39.
  53. 0
    21 October 2019 18: 44
    It is wrong to view the Kurdish scenario as a warning to Warsaw that Washington is capable of turning back in foreign policy. The reason is that the American side has real military interests in Poland (the facility in Redzikovo) and economic interests (LNG contracts).

    US military interests in Poland outweigh US interests in Syria, what kind of naive expert? In Kurdistan alone, the United States built 3 airfields and abandoned them, not to mention equipped bases and posts. And the economic interests of the United States in Poland are built in such a way that Poland wants to get off the LNG needle, but cannot. And what do the Americans do with those who have them? throws money?
  54. 0
    21 October 2019 19: 14
    Polish expert called the "reason" for which the US will not abandon Poland in the Kurdish scenario


    Hah, well, let them hope, if Poland becomes unnecessary, then she will fly out right there, with a door on her ears and a boot print below her back))
  55. 0
    21 October 2019 20: 41
    And the dupa shrank! Point press-press! Happens to everyone, but not to me! It's scary, it's creepy!
  56. 0
    21 October 2019 23: 22
    You can remember Operation "Gusty Wind" on April 29-30, 1975. I compare the fact that the United States did not defend South Vietnam after they agreed to leave there and left in 1973.
  57. 0
    22 October 2019 03: 31
    - Mikhalych, we were framed.

    - Who told you that you were framed? You were scammed Seryozha! KI-NU-LI, like big-eared suckers.


    Blindfolds.
  58. 0
    22 October 2019 16: 11
    The French special forces were not even abandoned in Syria, but they will take care of Poland day and night?
  59. wow
    0
    22 October 2019 18: 09
    They'll throw it, sure enough, they'll throw it... . Your own American skin is more expensive!
  60. 0
    22 October 2019 19: 39
    These idiots can't even learn from their own mistakes! The other day we celebrated the 80th anniversary of the beginning of World War II! They blew trumpets, knocked on tambourines, but didn’t have the brains to remember how they were cynically abandoned by Western “democracies” with allied help! Naive, they think that Merinos are better than Limes and Frogs! The hangover will be severe...