"There has not been such a shame since Vietnam" - Trump's opponents about the surrender of the base in Manbij

Opponents of President Donald Trump stepped up in the American media, stating that the Turkish military operation in northern Syria continued after Washington announced sanctions. Recall that on the eve of the United States announced the imposition of sanctions against the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Turkish Ministry of Energy, to raise duties on imported Turkish goods by 25-50 percent.

CAA in Manbridge

The American press is outraged that "Trump handed over to Putin US military bases in northern Syria." And the footage of how the Syrian military met on the highway in the Manbij area with the American military leaving the base was called on Trump’s "shameful policy." Regarding the surrender of the US base in Manbridge, American experts invited to the media added that "the American army has not experienced such a disgrace since Vietnam."

Recall that the American contingent left Manbij, and the Syrian government army (SAA) had already entered it. The day before, Turkish President Erdogan said that Ankara does not need Syrian cities, but security along its borders. Against this background, units of the Russian military police appeared in Manbij.

Noteworthy Twitter video:

منبج استلمها النظام والروس رسمي وهذه لقطات لمركبات ترفع العلم الروسي والسوري في منبج ، وللمعارضة يقليطpic.twitter.com/114hYpUbA3

- شـــــؤون تركـيــــة (@TurkeyAffairs) October 15, 2019

Meanwhile, it became known about the telephone conversation between Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan. Recall that the President of Russia made state visits to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, where, among other things, the issue of the Syrian settlement was also discussed. During the conversation, the Russian president invited his Turkish counterpart to pay a working visit to Moscow in the near future to discuss what is happening in northern Syria.

All this angers American hawkish politicians who claim that "Erdogan’s sanctions alone will not force him to abandon the operation." There were also those in the USA who recalled that the sanctions did not work and did not work against Russia.

Comments

[horus88]

nothing, let them get used to it. And then over the past thirty years weaned to get lyuley something.

Everything is yet to come, and they will wash themselves in Iraq, and in Afghanistan.

[Greenwood]

Quote: horus88

nothing, let them get used to it. And then over the past thirty years weaned to get lyuley something.

I didn’t understand, from whom did they get lyuley in this case? Well, Trump did not want to support Erdogan's military ambitions, he took his own so that they would not be hit. Where is luli then?

Quote: horus88

and wash in Iraq, and in Afghanistan

Hmm, what will happen in Iraq and Afghanistan that the Americans will suddenly "wash away"?

[horus88]

Could 5-10 years ago be imagined that the United States would be evacuated due to fear of being hit by its ally in NATO, Turkey? However, this is happening right now.
Do not you think that some problems are being identified?
About Iraq and Afghanistan is a separate topic, there is no desire to paint, but you yourself are able to figure out what's what. And if you’re not capable, then wait, it’s not long left. And you will see everything.

[Leeds]

Quote: horus88

Could 5-10 years ago be imagined that the United States would be evacuated due to fear of being hit by its ally in NATO, Turkey? However, this is happening right now.
Do not you think that some problems are being identified?
About Iraq and Afghanistan is a separate topic, there is no desire to paint, but you yourself are able to figure out what's what. And if you’re not capable, then wait, it’s not long left. And you will see everything.

It turns out that the “lyuli" are mentioned out of passion for the pluses. Macaques also shouted pro-lyuli for LDNR when capturing “empty” villages in the gray zone.

[horus88]

do you think that ldnr is a formidable adversary who, if something happens, is able to withstand a full-scale invasion of the uv? And what does the village where civilians lived, who left the war?
And how do you compare this with the US army, which came without demand and entrenched in a foreign land?
Do I understand correctly, villages = US military bases?
Some pluses dragged in, why, for what?

[Leeds]

Quote: horus88

do you think that ldnr is a formidable adversary who, if something happens, is able to withstand a full-scale invasion of the uv? And what does the village where civilians lived, who left the war?
And how do you compare this with the US army, which came without demand and entrenched in a foreign land?
Do I understand correctly, villages = US military bases?
Some pluses dragged in, why, for what?

It already looks like verbal diarrhea (sorry).
Although your business, what names, what to call.

[krot]

do you think that ldnr is a formidable adversary who, if something happens, is able to withstand a full-scale invasion of the uv?

But was not a full-scale invasion of the APU? So they sent a couple of battalions to warm up ..?)) All the Air Force ruins in the Donbass and lay down! And this is just about the Air Force!

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: horus88

do you think that ldnr is a formidable adversary who, if something happens, is able to withstand a full-scale invasion of the uv? And what does the village where civilians lived, who left the war?
And how do you compare this with the US army, which came without demand and entrenched in a foreign land?
Do I understand correctly, villages = US military bases?
Some pluses dragged in, why, for what?

Do you think the APU is able to withstand Russia?

[horus88]

no, not capable. Are they opposing us? Something I do not observe that we would fight with them.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: horus88

no, not capable. Are they opposing us? Something I do not observe that we would fight with them.

You are not watching. And they "suffer" with us for 5 years ...

[Tommy]

Quote: Greenwood

Well, Trump did not want to support Erdogan's military ambitions, he took his own so that they would not be hit. Where is luli then?

This is when the Americans persecuted and supported alien ambitions, not your interests?
You absolutely do not understand the situation in Syria!

[GRF]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Quote: horus88

no, not capable. Are they opposing us? Something I do not observe that we would fight with them.

You are not watching. And they "suffer" with us for 5 years ...

need help ...

[Greenwood]

Quote: horus88

Could 5-10 years ago be imagined that the United States would be evacuated due to fear of being hit by its ally in NATO, Turkey? However, this is happening right now.

For them it depends on the mood in the White House. Trump is a pragmatist to the marrow of bones and does not see the point (and benefit) with his own hands to resolve the Kurdish-Turkish conflict. Well, the Americans withdrew the troops from this area, in fact they lost nothing. Trump clearly does not want to be a stopper in every hole (as Bush, Clinton and Obama, the same Nobel laureate, liked to do this).

Quote: horus88

Do not you think that some problems are being identified?

It does not seem. Some military conflicts are much more convenient to handle with someone else's hands, and then come to the ready-made and skim the cream. Listen to all sorts of "experts" who do not feed with bread, let me get into the next booze - dough and soldiers will not be enough.

Quote: horus88

About Iraq and Afghanistan is a separate topic, there is no desire to paint, but you yourself are able to figure out what's what. And if they’re not capable

No really. Said "A" - say "B". This is a rule of good form in dialogue. The presence of Americans in Iraq in one form or another has been maintained since 2003, and they have generally achieved their goals. The presence of the Americans and NATO in Afghanistan has been going on since the end of 2001, and most of the goals have also been achieved there. So I ask, what should happen, that the Americans will suddenly become "bad" there?!?!

Quote: horus88

it’s not long left. And you will see everything.

Not for long - how much? A year, two, three, ten, before the second coming of Christ, the invasion of aliens, a collision with the planet Nibiru?

[horus88]

what goals did they achieve in afghanistan? What will become of these accomplished goals if they leave there?

Let's first determine the goals that the United States pursued in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. What do you think?
After that, we continue the conversation about whether they reached them and leave after fulfilling a duty, or run until they are kicked out by force.


And just to argue which of us is right, I or you, without any clear reasoning, beyond our opinion, I do not want.
Sincerely.

[Greenwood]

Quote: horus88

what goals did they achieve in afghanistan?

For example, drug trafficking control.

Quote: horus88

What will become of these accomplished goals if they leave there?

Who cares what comes next? Afghan has long gone out of the sphere of primary interests of the United States.

Quote: horus88

Let's first determine the goals that the United States pursued in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. What do you think?
After that, we continue the conversation about whether they reached them and leave after fulfilling a duty, or run until they are kicked out by force.

No, really. Do not answer a question with a question and do not distort. I never saw an explanation of this phrase:

Everything is yet to come, and they will wash themselves in Iraq, and in Afghanistan.

As soon as I see a detailed opinion, and not excuses like "I don't want to paint," I will state my vision of the goals of the states in their military adventures in the BV.

Quote: horus88

And just to argue which of us is right, I or you, without any clear reasoning, beyond our opinion, I do not want.

I have not seen a dispute here. I saw only the populist phrase about "wash themselves" without argumentation.

[Sarmat Sanych]

GreenWood, do you even believe in your nonsense?) There is really a cold Civil War in Matrasia, they are throwing down monuments to the Confederates, a lot of revelations on everyone in Congress and the DB, weekly mass shootings in the streets, voters of Democrats and Republicans in cities converge in hand-to-hand combat, the number of white Anglo-Saxons reduced to a critical 20%, 350 million trunks on hand, the Fed trying to repay bankruptcies of giants (Ford, GE, GM, all shale, etc.) launched a machine for $ 600 billion (https://youtu.be/XGhQoMT9eJQ) and further down the list. For us to start a hot Civilian there’s just enough to set a match on it, to show pictures with naked Trump in a Moscow hotel in 2007 with a recording of recruitment and watch how they chop each other’s heads.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

weekly mass shootings on the streets, voters of Democrats and Republicans in cities converge in hand-to-hand fighting, the number of white Anglo-Saxons fell to a critical 20%

... meanwhile, in faraway Russia, Sarmat Sanych constantly forgets to take pills

[Greenwood]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

GreenWood, do you even believe in your nonsense?) There is really a cold Civil War in Matrasia, they are throwing down monuments to the Confederates, a lot of revelations on everyone in Congress and the DB, weekly mass shootings in the streets, voters of Democrats and Republicans in cities converge in hand-to-hand combat, the number of white Anglo-Saxons reduced to a critical 20%, 350 million trunks on hand, the Fed trying to repay bankruptcies of giants (Ford, GE, GM, all shale, etc.) launched a machine for $ 600 billion (https://youtu.be/XGhQoMT9eJQ) and further down the list. For us to start a hot Civilian there’s just enough to set a match on it, to show pictures with naked Trump in a Moscow hotel in 2007 with a recording of recruitment and watch how they chop each other’s heads.

Nothing at all pins yours.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Expected Drain, Greenwood. But this is logical.
Russophobes of all sorts hoped that Syria would become the 2nd Afghan or Chechnya for Russia, and countless losses against the backdrop of unbearable expenses would lead to a national depression and revolution. Instead, Russia masterfully took control of the region, and the notorious hegemon disgraced himself shamefully, and even disgraced himself to the whole world of useless air defense in Saudi Arabia. Der Spiegel: "The withdrawal of US troops opens the way for Vlad Putin. Now Russia, the last superpower in the region, can freely pursue its interests" https://spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-zieht-truppen-aus-syrien- ab-geschenk-fuer-wladimir-putin-a-1291503.html
http://www.iarex.ru/news/71391.html
Russia became the ruler of the Middle East:
https://youtu.be/g0tU9guovaY

[Sarmat Sanych]

What anonymus, mirror your complexes?

[Mavrikiy]

Greenwood
For them it depends on the mood in the White House. Trump is a pragmatist to the marrow of bones and does not see the point (and benefit) with his own hands to resolve the Kurdish-Turkish conflict.

What are you speaking about? Kurds were useful for the USA. Pressure on Turkey. A large army in the region, outside the influence of Syria and us. Great Kurdistan - a lot of cheap oil for the United States. And now all is ashes. Armed, equipped and trained. The authority has fallen in the world. Turks are more and more inclined towards Russia, Putin Erdogan calls for a meeting in Moscow. Will he go?

[Greenwood]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Kurds were useful for the USA.

Very controversial statement.

Quote: Mavrikiy

Pressure on Turkey.

We would like to put pressure on Turkey, would put pressure. Since when has this become a problem for the CIA ?!

Quote: Mavrikiy

Armed, equipped and trained.

Well, well, it's funny. If the Americans were armed, it’s the Turks.

Quote: Mavrikiy

The authority has fallen in the world.

Hmm, to draw conclusions about the authority on one maneuver of American troops in Syria is even more ridiculous.

Quote: Mavrikiy

Turks are more and more inclined towards Russia, Putin Erdogan calls for a meeting in Moscow.

Yes Yes Yes. He was already leaning somehow. Then, without a twinge of conscience, he shot down a Russian pilot. That’s what a friend and ally need.

Quote: Mavrikiy

Will he go?

Probably will go. I’ve traveled more than once. It rushes about on two chairs - both ours and yours.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Greenwood

Quote: Mavrikiy
Armed, equipped and trained.
Well, well, it's funny. If the Americans were armed, it’s the Turks.

It does not interfere.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Greenwood

The presence of Americans in Iraq in one form or another has been preserved since 2003, and they have generally achieved their goals. The presence of Americans and NATO in Afghanistan has been going on since the end of 2001, most of the goals there have also been achieved.

Gee. In Iraq, there is a Shiite government that, for 500 million salaries a year, maintains US loyalty, allowing it to plunder the oil of southern Iraq. Actually, most of the 5 official US troops are concentrated there. And most of all PMCs. Protect the ways of robbery.
In Afghanistan, the United States did not solve any problems. The main thing is to create a large base for working against the countries of Central Asia, for putting their governments under control. With Uzbekistan, the idea of ​​a base failed at the first official insult to the president. In Kyrgyzstan, two coups rolled, but the Americans too early recognized the Kyrgyz Indians, with the right to wet them for pleasure. The pleasure was short-lived when 4 tons of weapons were found at the consul in a rented apartment.
So in Afghanistan so far it’s a complete mess, and the success of the Hussites can push the Shiites of Iraq to try to return oil to their bins.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Oo sarcasm

So in Afghanistan so far it’s a complete mess, and the success of the Hussites can push the Shiites of Iraq to try to return oil to their bins.

They are already encouraging. The leaders of the popular mobilization forces in Iraq not so long ago issued a warning to mattresses and offered to leave the territory to avoid adverse consequences for themselves, and this is more than 100 thousand bayonets of which up to 80% are supported by the IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) of Iran. After the demonstrative "heroic" exit of mattresses from Syria, to the territory of the same Iraq, the inspiration for the "exclusive" mockery will probably take on a second wind.

[voyaka uh]

"retains loyalty to the United States, allowing oil to be plundered from southern Iraq" ////
----
Mistake US oil companies do not develop
oil in southern Iraq. There are British BP and Chinese.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

There, 60% was Lukoil. And 2 weeks after the occupation they were asked. Since then, there is only Shell, and the former Bush-ml company Everton, which almost flew into the pipe, but Bush helped with free oil.
Husite victories plunged Shell into panic, they began to shut down wells and evacuated American personnel.

[voyaka uh]

After the capture of Iraq, there was such a funny story:
Americans thought the new Iraqi government would give
im Basra oil. But the cunning Shiites realized that the war was over,
and now the States have to play according to the laws of civil capitalism.
Tender announced. And the British won there (Shell, you are right, not BP)
And the Chinese state. firm. And the Americans flew by.

[Town Hall]

Quote: voyaka uh

. And the British won there (Shell, you are right, not BP)

Shell are not Dutch?

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi

There, 60% was Lukoil. And 2 weeks after the occupation they were asked. Since then, there is only Shell, and the former Bush ml Everton company

You are telling a lie. LUKoil still works in Iraq. By the way, Rosneft too.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

In the north, in Kurdistan. And it still does not have a single well. He was given "promising fields" in return.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Oo sarcasm

In the north, in Kurdista

It is in the south.

http://www.lukoil.ru/Company/BusinessOperation/GeographicReach/Asia/LUKOILinIraq

"In 2014, LUKOIL began commercial oil production at the West Qurna-2 field in the south of the country"

[Tank jacket]

Alexey, BP-American ... The name does not mean in this particular case that it is British.

[voyaka uh]

Her headquarters is in London. She acquired (merge teamed) with
several companies. Both American and Indian.
In the USA, it has 1/3 of the business, but it wasn’t bought by the Americans, but rather,
the British bought several American oil firms.
They became subsidiaries of British Petroleum.

[Tank jacket]

Alex, Vanguard group, controls BP ...

[voyaka uh]

BP is a giant public corporation.
Vanguard is the operator of a group of large US investment funds.
They bought about 7% of BP's shares. You seem to be confusing ownership and
control in multinational corporations.
If, for example, the Queen of England (and she also has businesses )
If he buys 8% of BP’s shares, the corporation will not become English from this.
BP is still defined as: British multinational oil and gas company

[Tank jacket]

However, the queen cannot enter London City like a queen ..... only as a citizen ... And only by invitation ...
And what is more important for the rich?

1. Ownership
2. Control
3. Population Control (Hretta Tumbörg)


By the way, what about the Dutch ark? Arrived or stuck where?

[Tank jacket]

Alexei, canabioids and rainbow LGBTs were legalized in your country, the next step is the ban on mathematics ... Well ???
Stalin Birobidzhan prepared blindly ...
Or will Armenians occupy a niche instead of you?

[voyaka uh]

What does mathematics have to do with it?
Rainbow LGBT people, by the way, are great at math and
programming, and autists, in general, often
mathematical geniuses.
And among Orthodox Jews (who believe in Adam and Eve)
full of math professors.
So your stereotypes are wrong.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: voyaka uh

And among Orthodox Jews (who believe in Adam and Eve)
full of math professors.

That's really full, right? Every second, probably?

[voyaka uh]

In the 90s at the Harvard University School of Mathematics
there was a joke: "If you don't wear a black kippah, then you are a" white crow ".
(free translation from English). Now the Chinese have strongly pressed
Jews in mathematical science.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: voyaka uh

In the 90s at the Harvard University School of Mathematics
there was a joke: "If you don't wear a black kippah, then you are a" white crow ".

It looks like the Israeli analogue of the Russian adage "American universities are the place where Russian professors teach Chinese students." And the black kippah does not seem to mean the orthodoxy of the Jew? It seemed to me that the orthodox are sideways and a black hat.

[voyaka uh]

The black hat is the Hasidim, an Eastern European direction
orthodox. In the United States, many Orthodox do not grow paisas.
In Israel - most have. The difference between the orthodox is precisely the bale
black color. There are also "knitted kippas" (with a pattern) among religious,
who is for the land of Israel. And different bales, skullcaps.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: horus88

then some problems they identified?

They have problems specifically with Erdogan. Tomorrow he will not be and there will be no problems

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

If after Erdogan an even more stubborn nationalist does not come.
Erdogan killed the pro-American elite in the armed forces. And this is the main reason for the loss of control over Turkey.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: horus88

Could it have been 5-10 years ago that the United States would have been evacuated because of fears of falling under the blow of its ally on NATO, Turkey?

No.

Quote: horus88

However, this is happening right now.

This is not happening now (although you can imagine, yes). Trump is simply trying to distract attention from the problems at home.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Well then! The pipe from Iraqi Kurdistan to the Mediterranean coast remained in Assad’s hands. And if the oil fields of the Syrian Kurdistan, from which there is also a pipe to the SM, fall under the control of the Syrian government, Assad will cease to need external oil.
The democratic wing of the Irish mafia families that ruled under Obama and never drank Kurdish kerosene, indignation !!! - to the highest degree!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Greenwood

I didn’t understand, from whom did they get lyuley in this case? Well, Trump did not want to support Erdogan's military ambitions, he took his own so that they would not be hit. Where is luli then?

If you remember what mattresses came to Syria with, it was - "Assad must go." The coalition formed by them (mattresses) against Assad consisted of 60 countries, and the territory controlled by the militants was steadily expanding until Russia entered the case. 3 years have passed. What do we have in stock? The non-state of ISIS has been destroyed, the coalition has disintegrated, the territory of Syria has basically come under the control of Damascus, Assad is more alive than all the living, and the "invincible" and "resolutely indecisive" themselves, throwing their allies over a vegetable, shyly leave Syria. Lyuli, may be different and do not necessarily have to be associated with casualties. In this case, mattresses at a reasonable price raked a pack of geopolitical people, which led to image losses, after which many doubted the strength of the "hegemon", which in no way contributes to entering into unions with mattresses.

Quote: Greenwood

Hmm, what will happen in Iraq and Afghanistan that the Americans will suddenly "wash away"?

Has already happened. Having achieved success not at the initial stage, the mattresses now do not know what to do next either in Iraq or in Afghanistan, while anti-American sentiments in these countries are gaining momentum and American control over the "liberated" territories is steadily narrowing. In Afghanistan, they have already entered into negotiations with the Taliban (the "winners" with the "losers"), so that they would give them the opportunity to leave so that it would not look like surrender.

[Lelek]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Has already happened. Having achieved success not at the initial stage, the mattresses now do not know what to do next either in Iraq or in Afghanistan, while anti-American sentiments in these countries are gaining momentum and American control over the "liberated" territories is steadily narrowing.

Hi Dmitry.
Yes, it happened. "Exceptional" flees from Syria:

But this fits in with Trump's global concept - to reduce the number of bases around the globe and thereby save money from spending on the eve of the crisis announced for 2020-2021. As a businessman, he acts cleverly, but there are too many of his opponents (and recklessly crazy, it is not for nothing that the thesis about the greatness and exclusivity of the "nation of emigrants" has been presented for centuries).

[fighter angel]

Well yes, of course!
The Exceptionals don't retreat, they just advance in a different direction.

[sniperino]

Quote: Greenwood

I didn’t understand, from whom did they get lyuley from this?

The Americans also did not understand that their shame was not related to leaving Vietnam and Syria, but to what they did there all the time before they left.

[Greg Miller]

The US task in Syria was to wreak havoc and they completed this task. Shedding their blood for the sake of some Kurds would be foolish of them. The conflict, with the participation of Turkey, will now become self-sustaining and it will smolder, maintaining chaos and without the participation of US troops.

[dzvero]

Three sayings.
I agree with the first.
With the second - in principle, yes, but "the East is a delicate matter" and image losses will haunt the Americans for a very long time. And as if they did not outweigh the immediate benefits.
With the third - how to say ... graters of Turks and Kurds were before, there will be later. Yes, and at the moment, the dynamics of the situation allow us to assume that the situation in a month (approximately) will more or less settle down. Which means that the United States could not fully complete the task according to claim 1.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

That's what they attacked ?! Trump fulfills his campaign promises!
The withdrawal of troops from Syria promised? Here it is.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

SAA fighters basically have no time to look according to the charter, or they are according to it masquerading as terrorists and homeless just in case?

[Dangerous]

For so many years of war, they still cannot change their current camouflage to desert. Photo of course atas - not distinguishable from terras

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Dangerous

For so many years of war, they still cannot change their current camouflage to desert. Photo of course atas - not distinguishable from terras

Eight years of war have not been in vain for the Syrian budget, and they have no time for changing the shape and chevrons. it is necessary to replenish the most necessary in terms of weapons, armored vehicles and aviation, and therefore cost a minimum. This is our LADY, for no apparent benefit can change the name "militia" to "police" calling it "reform" and throw 13 billion rubles to the wind, despite the fact that "there is no money, but you hold on." The Syrians are now definitely not up to fat ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Mikhail Drabkin

masquerading as terrorists and homeless just in case?

Homeless people are just to the west, where "citizens of the world" are found. And the fighter in the foreground really resembles one character who, according to legend, in Yershalaim was sewn either vagrancy, or spiritual terrorism, and as a result, by the verdict of a Jewish court, was executed.

[spirit]

Well, yes, taking contingent out of a warring country from the other hemisphere is a shame. But the best of course to bomb everything to hell) oh, these democrats. They would have been better off watching Beale's fly in the white house at one time, that's where the shame was

[Andrey Chistyakov]

"They'd better keep Beal's fly in the White House that way, that's where the shame was."
Monica, she is.

[BARKAS]

And why do not they believe that Trump the GRU colonel does not understand?

[Metallurg_2]

because he’s actually a colonel of the FSB.

[Amateur]

don't believe trump colonel of the gru

Because he is the general of the SVR

[den3080]

Quote: Amateur

don't believe trump colonel of the gru

Because he is the general of the SVR

until he was promoted to general, for the third year in GDP under the cloth the idea rests with him.

[sniperino]

Quote: den3080

until he reached the general

While at least one American soldier treads on our Middle Eastern land, do not see Trump general stars and stripes

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

And the deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.

[dzvero]

Do you seriously think that somewhere in the world there are deputies who care about the people / state?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Uh ... Trump is a State Duma deputy, and takes care of his people.
^{strange, have to clarify a joke}

[dzvero]

strange, have to clarify a joke

I repent, I have not heard this.
Um, are there any jokes about deputies? Any joke on the subject will be a pale shadow of reality ...
PS. Apparently, he missed the smiley in his previous comment.

[Masha]

American experts added that "the American army has not experienced such a shame since the days of Vietnam"

Never was this, and here again ...

[cniza]

But memory quickly recovered ...

[aszzz888]

"The American army has not experienced such a disgrace since Vietnam."

Reminding is always good! Hollywood-dotted mericatos run like rats. On TV showed footage of the entrance to the abandoned base. Even the barrier works! The refrigerators are full of different drinks, etc., personal items are thrown. Mericatos flee with shame and fear that they would fall under the hand of both the Kurds and no one else knows.

[cniza]

Just the words of their Minister of Defense of which standing - "we can be squeezed ..."

[aszzz888]

cniza (Victor) Today, 08: 54
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Just the words of their Minister of Defense of what standing - "we can be squeezed ..." lol

Well, their "ministers" are generally some kind of broken calculator - no one knows what result, and when to expect from them.

[cniza]

This is because they consult with the computer and make decisions on its conclusions.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: cniza

the words of their Minister of Defense of which standing - "we can be squeezed ..."

- So, you say: clamped ... and violated?
- And violated!
C / F "Alexander Nevsky"

[Azazelo]

Yes, the whole history of the US Army is a shame and war crimes.

[Observer2014]

"There has not been such a shame since Vietnam" - Trump's opponents about the surrender of the base in Manbij

It's okay. Now they land on Mars. And let everyone

[Mestny]

They would "land" into the Earth's orbit for a start. So far, only one chatter at presentations and beautiful cartoons.

[Terenin]

. Opponents of President D. Trump have intensified in the American media ...

interesting, which means "activated" if they (the media) are "on their ears" screaming against Trump since his election

[cniza]

Money has become more active and spend more.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Trump has his own Fox News, with 70 ten million viewers. This is the United States Turner and Murdoch - the kings of ducks.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: Oo sarcasm

Trump has his own Fox News, with 70 ten million viewers. This is the United States Turner and Murdoch - the kings of ducks.

Murdoch is actually the host of Fox News.

[Orkraider]

What a shame, what a shame
Torn trousers from wide steps,
American Marines escaped from the base,
After all, the Kurds did not help them with the French victory!
There was no support for them when landing in Normandy,
They were not remembered in other glorious companies,
They don’t pay money, they don’t buy Fu-35,
The question arises: who are they and what do they mean to us?

[Sergei 23]

This is not a problem for the USA. Shake off like that chicken after a date. Well, the Sultan will be introduced in revenge (sanctions).

[Potato]

This is all good, if not for one thing ...

Tomorrow, refugees will flee with the territory seized by the Turks. Guess where. And who will feed and protect them? Vanya again? With them, and dressed bearded climb.

Oil fields and borders are for Turks and Americans, and the SAA and the Russian Federation are a stream of refugees and destroyed cities. Perfectly!

[Andrey Chistyakov]

"Tomorrow, refugees will flee from the territory captured by the Turks. Guess where. And who will feed and protect them?"
How is that? Muter (mother in German). Merkel. She dreamed about it. We accept all grit.
And Erdogan promised to "help" in this matter.

[Potato]

Erdogan promised to evict over a million Syrian refugees from Turkey back to Syria, to this very "security zone". From there they will run further, maybe they will have nothing to do and eat there. This is for you to hear Erdagan's promises.

But Merkel and similar creatures recall the protection of refugees only when it is necessary to blame Assad and Russia!

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Erdogan says a lot of things ...

[Potato]

And even more does not finish. And it makes a hundred times more. If the Turks managed to stop the sudden demarche at the very border - that would be a victory! They would not be the first to get into an open conflict. And now what to do with these bases and cities?

[protoss]

and sometimes it’s so convincing that you have to pack things and get out of the country.

[Sarmat Sanych]

Potato, well, burn Really, I'll go and think I'll see how the subscribers will shield their idols? Are you trying to sculpt a peremog from kovna again? So the "retreat from Vietnam" is also a victory... And in fact, it turned out to be an enchanting American disgrace, "exceptional" shame and infirmity in full view of all mankind. Do you know that in the territory controlled by Assad are the largest phosphate deposits on Earth (70% of the world) worth a trillion $? It has already been announced that all this will be developed by Russian companies. With regards to the oil fields, they are initially modest, the SAR did not live on this before the war, so it is not an indicator. Yes, and oil and gas from Assad at the moment 35% of the Syrian, and the rest will borrow, a matter of the near future.

[ender]

According to the US Geological Survey, 72,4% of phosphate ores are concentrated in Morocco. maybe you are fighting in Morocco?

[Sarmat Sanych]

"The data of the American Geological Service" the American Geological Service can shove itself deeper, especially about phosphates in Morocco it is known 40 years ago, and even the wrong class of deposits. And about the Syrian information from 4 years ago, it was not for nothing that our equipment for experimental mining began to be sent back in 2017.

[Potato]

About phosphate you already answered ...

And the rest, how and when will we take something?

[Sarmat Sanych]

Wake up and take a look tomorrow map of ATS control zones, you will see a lot of interesting. November will not come, as we will pocket most of it. And about the phosphates mentioned above. By the way, the CIA in its Factbook in 2018 also wrote about this if I'm not mistaken.

[rocket757]

The American press is outraged that "Trump

Here is interesting, what the striped man in the street wants at all ??? There, after all, the "free" press does not reflect the opinion of anyone except the owners of this press !!! however, it is everywhere ...
in short, another fu - uv - fel under the guise of public opinion !!! As elsewhere, as always !!!

[cniza]

The election campaign is starting to move into the hot stage.

[rocket757]

Hello Victor

Quote: cniza

The election campaign is starting to move into the hot stage.

If you look at it, pre-election affairs / fuss are never interrupted there NEVER! Just a "volcano" of events and deeds erupts closer to the event itself, the official start of the election campaign! That's when it gets HOT!

[cniza]

Greetings! but the degree is growing faster than usual and much higher.

[rocket757]

It is obvious. Nobody will remember such a hot presidency.

[axiles100682]

Well, where are all those who have been shouting here for years that Syria will never be within the former borders? Gentlemen, the Israelis, well, please comment already! Where the hell are you? Tell us about the cunning plan of your favorite Yankers.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: axiles100682

Well, where are all those who have been shouting here for years that Syria will never be within the former borders? Gentlemen, the Israelis, well, please comment already! Where the hell are you? Tell us about the cunning plan of your favorite Yankers.

when one historian was asked in the 20th century what he thinks about the influence of the French revolution on France and Europe, he answered - I think it's too early to judge this.

and the state of affairs in BV all the more. only the prelude finished playing.

[axiles100682]

I completely agree with this historian. Let us live and see as they say.
In BV, yes, Syria was a prelude to the game. The Yankers have done a lot of things over the years of their gigimony in Iraq to restore order in Libya. But in Syria, another five years at most, and I think it will be over.

[Potato]

The cunning plan of the Yankees is to drain into our hands the population and the dilapidated territory of Syria without its useful mineral resources. And also the plan of the Turks is to grab yourself 30 km deep into Syria along the entire border.

[uav80]

The transfer of Kurdish units under the control of Russian representatives will mean that the Kurds are transferring oil fields in northeast Syria to Russian control.

So, there is already a departure of the militarized Kurdish formations from the largest in Syria al-Omar field, Deir-ez-Zor province, and the transfer of infrastructure under the control of Damassk and, accordingly, Moscow.

[Potato]

Does not mean!

It will be necessary to celebrate when this territory is under the control of the SAA. And then they are already withdrawing, and soon there will be Turks. They are closer to these places than ours.

[axiles100682]

And the fact that Erdogan only according to officially known information calls Putin every day doesn’t lead you to any idea?

[Potato]

Not suggestive. This is the East - agreements are not worth the paper.

[axiles100682]

Well, there are no paper agreements at all. Personally, I don’t trust anyone and even more so Erdogan, but here, as for me, everything is clearer than clear and the sultan will not jerk further 30 km. Well, we will find out about this very soon, it’s useless to argue about that, it's a little easier wait a bit

[Pilat2009]

Quote: uav80

So, there is already a departure of the militarized Kurdish formations from the largest in Syria al-Omar field, Deir-ez-Zor province, and the transfer of infrastructure under the control of Damassk and, accordingly, Moscow.

That's right. Kurds simply have nowhere to go except under the wing of Assad and Moscow. Of course they will wring them out of the border, but they will form an enclave due to Syrian territory

[bar]

Why "at the expense of the territory"? They always lived there in this territory. They live in full in Turkey. Let them continue to live, they don't seem to be particularly touched. But they also want their own state "at the expense of the territory", and with this they broke off the campaign.

[axiles100682]

The Turks will have the Turks for as long as we need it. Nuuu vaashpe is just the same the Syrian oil industry is an oil-bearing region. So now they have merged the entire Syrian oil industry of Rosneft. And from the Syrian part came from oil produced by Rosneft, Assad will pay to other Russian companies restoring the economy of Syria. Am I getting pretty clear?

[Potato]

You are like a drunk, but in general - clearly. I hope it will be so. This is more important than abandoned American barracks.

[cniza]

There were also those in the USA who recalled that the sanctions did not work and did not work against Russia.

They begin to suspect something.

[aszzz888]

cniza (Victor) Today, 08: 50
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There were also those in the USA who recalled that the sanctions did not work and did not work against Russia.


They begin to suspect something. lol

Or to see clearly.

[cniza]

The computer started to worry.

[Ural-4320]

What an interesting AK the pepper is in the hands of: a wooden pistol grip, an angle of inclination of the butt neck like AK-47, a flame arrestor like AKSU. Is it really AK-47 or is someone the same modern rivets?

[aszzz888]

Ural-4320 (Konstantin) Today, 08: 53
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What an interesting AK the pepper is in the hands of: a wooden pistol grip, an angle of inclination of the butt neck like AK-47, a flame arrestor like AKSU. Is it really AK-47 or is someone the same modern rivets?

Look, maybe you will find something similar ...

20 little-known AK-47 variants »Perunitsa

[Ural-4320]

Thank you, I went to enlighten.
PS: many of the machines on the link are in the book of the Beetle. I only saw the sniper Iranian Tabuk for the first time. And in the photo, the pepper, apparently, is Chinese with a self-screwed flame arrestor.

[aszzz888]

Ural-4320 (Konstantin) Today, 09: 47
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Thank you, I went to enlighten.
PS: many of the machines on the link are in beetle book.

Yes, the books of A.B. Beetle is a very good allowance, and help. Itself was read by them.

[Livonetc]

No shame.
For many years, a wise decision.
It's time to do creation.
To make America a great one again, and not an aggressive and vile robber.
We'll see.

[rocket757]

Greetings Gennady

Quote: Livonetc

Make America Great Again

I believe it.

Quote: Livonetc

not an aggressive and vile robber.

And I will never believe it .... for a longer period I do not think, for objective reasons, personal circumstances.

[Alexey-74]

Here, of course, there is more of a political showdown than the military achievements of the United States or Turkey, but it is nevertheless pleasant to hear that the United States is "surrendering" bases and Russian servicemen are included there.

[Amateur]

In the video, not the liberation of the captured city, but an oriental wedding!

[TermNachTer]

Well, this is the first result of BB's policy - "to sit quietly on the shore and wait for the current to carry the body of the mattress maker past you."

[demo]

I looked at the footage where Putin and Mohammed bin Salman are standing in the reception hall and listening to hymns.
The performance of the Russian anthem evoked both laughter and tears.
So to distort music - you need to be able to.
Well, quite the hands of the Saudis grow from the wrong place.
And I remembered imperishable:
Stupidly constrained - do not sharpen.
Stupidly born - do not teach.

Well at least they didn’t sing the text !!!!

[bar]

The American press is outraged that "Trump handed over to Putin US military bases in northern Syria."

There would be a desire, but there will always be a reason for "indignation". And the key word in indignation was not "passed", not "Putin" and not Syria. The key word is Trump. And no matter what he does, the democratic press will be outraged.

[Wolf]

There remained French special forces, even some democrats. When will light and spite with SAS? Or Israel sa MOSADOM? ;) Trump does not seem to want that the bi beat the krish and the curtain behind the European democratically criminal criminal robber and murderer? Do not clog the Frenchmen they are for example. the catholic Jesuit church of France made Rumunsku a Nazi before the raid of Napoleon, then in the place of the Habsburgs and Brita Albanyu in front of 1 MV. Seichas wants to do Kurdistan? Hope that is not in front of 3 MB?

[iouris]

Politics is a non-linear process. Observe, listen to what the "Trump opponents" shout and draw the right conclusions. The surrender of a base somewhere in Syria, built under Obama, is another Trump blow to the Democrats. Everything changes. The Kurds are already making their own conclusions, but in Ukraine they have only "strained".

[Shahno]

Well, why tear the meat. Not hungry. And who is hungry, well, eat. You are straight wild.

[NF68]

The best, of course, lies ahead.

[faterdom]

Against this background, units of the Russian military police appeared in Manbij.

Then they arrived - showed an aspect! On the contrary to the police, he couldn’t do anything - they brought the disease out, his hands behind his back, and threw it into a black funnel in a big way.

[nikvic46]

Opponents of Trump prefer coffins to withdraw troops. They do not care about people. Ah. Democrats, democrats.

[Good_Anonymous]

Quote: nikvic46

Opponents of Trump prefer coffins to withdraw troops. They do not care about people.

And how, there were a lot of losses among the Americans in Syria?

[Lord of the Sith]

Donny will have to turn around at the navel to prove to everyone that the shameful surrender of the military base was necessary))